/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3621972
Great game
Great ending

>>3621972

>playing on my gear VR

>>3621972
Remember to find the bikini for Tao and the miniskirt for Anri.

>>3621972
This may be an unpopular opinion but...

Shining Force > Shining Force 2

>>3621972
>not playing the best one

SF2 is the best by far.

>>3623421
SF3 > SF > SFCD > SF2

>>3622909
lol no

>>3622909

Shining Force 3 is an example of a developer taking a great game and absolutely ruining it with perspective and 3D graphics.

"Hey, you know how our players need to be able to see things like troops and obstacles? Let's just give it an isometric view too close to the ground, so they can't see shit or strategize in our strategy game. Better fuck up camera controls as well too, just for good measure." -- The person who killed the Shining Force series.

>>3623520
I never had an issue with the camera angles in SF3. I played through the whole thing just fine.

>>3623520
We get it, you didn't play the game

>>3623520
I'm pretty sure that you can adjust the camera angles in SF3.

>>3622889
Shining Force 1 I find is more challenging, as long as you promote immediately.

Although some characters are so terrible if you don't wait till 20 they're useless.

>>3623594
Yeah thats what L & R are for. But the game probably does control best with the saturn 3D controller since it supports it.

>>3621972
I just played this a few days ago and remembered why I quit.

>early in the game, letting the nostalgia wash over me
>all those beloved old faces, Ken, Luke, Tao, Lowe, Hans...
>Hans
>he had just killed a Dark Dwarf and leveled, getting +1 Attack, +3 Agility
>power flickered from storm outside and shut the game off
>no big deal
>quickly got back to where I was
>Hans leveled and got +3 Agility with no Attack
>suddenly remembered level-ups gave stat boosts in a range and a series of shit level-ups could fuck your character in the long run
>autism kicks in and begin researching what the maximum stats were for every level up of every character
>savescumming becomes a necessity
>quit having fun
>fuck

Is there anyone that's found a way to turn that gnawing autism off? Just... not care that you're getting shitty rolls and keep going? Because this is fucking miserable.

>>3623791
>Anon leveled up!
><no stat gain messages follow>
SF1 is a kick in the cunt.

>>3623791
Yeah, the variance in the first SF is too damn high. I just deal with whatever gains the games throws at me. Still remember fondly how Mae's first level gave her +7 defence making her a great tank for the rest of the game and my centaur waifu.

Just go with SF2 if you don't want to bother with random level ups, there is much less variance.

>>3623520
You can also zoom in and out using the y button, or something like that. Perspective was never an issue.

>>3625270
The variance is great. it ensures that if you aren't autistic every playthrough can surprise you by making a new character good enought for the team or knocking them off.

>>3623515
>better gameplay
>better story
>better soundtrack
uh ok

>>3626103
>>better soundtrack
>better than SF2's soundtrack
Now I know you're snorting fairy dust.

>>3623791
>powergaming a game thats already too easy

this is where you go wrong, anon.

>>3626928
>>better than SF2's soundtrack

let the nostalgia wash over you, friends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT7ZtwOBmqM&list=PL1DC68E335E9934A4

>>3627224
Did hackers ever manage to fix Very Hard on SF2 to be he correct difficulty?

Is return of he Dark Dragon worth it? The difficulty goes higher but I'm worried they fucked other things up.

>>3621972
Love it. Always get the urge to replay it.
While SF2 had some good shit added, I didn't like it as much. The character designs weren't nearly as good, I only liked 4 characters. The disney kiss ending left a bad taste in my mouth. I didn't like the witch in the main title screen as much as the loli. Some battles felt tedious and some cutscenes dragged on too much. I don't mind the game being longer but not like that. Also there wasn't a single song I liked as much this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOeE-i3b-Vs
Some nit picking but still.

Bump

>>3622857

I had no idea bout this

I already passed it, god dammit

>>3621972
Mad respect for you. Shining Force is among my favorite games of all time.

I suppose while we're on the subject, what are people's opinion on Resurrection of the Dark Dragon?

>>3630345
I enjoyed the extra characterization and my favorite new unit is Narsha. That said Magic resistance can GTFO.

>>3627224
>he thinks it's about powergaming and not sheer autistic completionism

Oh, to be a casual.

>>3621972
>>gear VR
>be kid
>want VR so you can experience virtual worlds
>grow up
>use VR so you can replay the same games you played as a kid

>>3630334
You missed out bro.

>>3630334
>>3631518
Hubba hubba!
What a babe!

>>3630495
This guy knows the score!

>>3630334
Shining Force has many hidden items.

It's part of the fun.

>>3623791
Holy shit, are you me?

Did this also affect your ability to enjoy SotN?

>>3621972
I sure wish you could unlock the ninja earlier. He was cool but you get him so fucking late into the game

>>3626928
>Now I know you're snorting fairy dust.
No you

>>3623627
Jesus fuck that's a BIG controller!

>>3633334
For you.

>>3633334
It's great though.

So, genesis or GBA version for a first playthrough?

>>3634215
Genesis. GBA has fucked up colors and retcons that ruin the story and whacked balance.

>>3622909
>ill never understand how to get a Saturn emulator working and play this with a translated version of the 3rd scenario.

WHY?

>>3634215
Genesis all the way bro.

>>3634361
Really anon?

>>3634971
Cool.

How do you feel about cursed weapons and items?

I think the negatives of occasionally becoming paralyzed and receiving damage are far outweighed by the incredible attack power they give

>>3636254
Agreed. If they cast a spell they're handy to have but otherwise they're not worth the risk

Currently getting my shit rocked by Kaine

Jesus tittyfucking christ 70 HP what the fuck

And all my physical guys are doing like 1-3 damage and he one-shots everybody

I was treating this like Fire Emblem and waiting until 20 to promote everyone but I might be in need of some quick power.

>>3636283
Promoting at 10 is a bad idea, promoting at 15 is a good idea, promoting at 20 is a bit on the crazy side

>>3621972
>Playing through again on my gear VR

What app lets you play this in gear VR? Is there a retro sega "arcade" app I overlooked?

>>3636327

If that's true it's about time to promote my entire fuckin' army

Prepare your anus, Kane.

>>3636412
If I remember correctly overleveled characters will drop stats when firsy promoted. You may hope Kane has some lube.

>>3636283
I never saw the point of waiting to promote anyone. Any extra stats are completely unnecessary and some characters just seem to get screwed by it.

>>3633334

>>3636283
Promoting late is a meme. You might get 10 straight level ups of absolutley nothing, whereas a promoted character is guarenteed to get some stats. Promote as soon as possible to get rid of worthless level ups. Only savescummers are likely to benefit from promoting late and you're not a dirty savescummer, are you?

>>3636864
Although I liked the duke, it is worth mentioning many baby hands had trouble with how thick it was, not how large it was from the front. The Saturn/DC controller had very thin handles to hold.

Anyone have a side comparison of controllers? Wanna see some thic as fuck asses

>>3636860
>>3637535

But they cap out sooner so get less stats total, right?

Then again it's not like there's probably a post game

>>3634215
I did not like the GBA version at all. It looked very ugly and some other problems

>>3637809
You're never going to hit the level cap in normal play. There is no benefit unless you're going some serious autist shit.

>>3633334
It's pretty great though. Don't know why Sega dropped the nub and d-pad for those god awful finger slicing ones on the Dreamcast.

>>3630534
Don't project your childhood onto her jackass.

>>3634971
Sigh