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3618389 No.3618389 [Reply] [Original]

I see no reasons to own old consoles.

>> No.3618410

>>3618389
n64 emulation is shit

>> No.3618412

There is also some actual value in these consoles, games, and even the original artwork. An original cart can sell for up to $200 on the secondary market. Also, most of those illegal emulations are glitchy.

>> No.3618413

>>3618410
n64 has no games

>> No.3618426
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>>3618389
Okay thanks for posting bubby now go to bed its late and you have school in the morning

>> No.3618432

>>3618389
If you have a emulator box that can hook up to a CRT, i don't see why either

unfortunately, video outputs that can be used on old equipment are quite rare now

>> No.3618437

>>3618426
First, tell me reasons for buy old consoles.

>> No.3618450

>>3618437
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn9eqcqr64k

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>>3618412
>Also, most of those illegal emulations are glitchy.
This is now a YLYL thread.

>> No.3618489

>>3618437
i like them

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>>3618412
>Also, most of those illegal emulations are glitchy.

>> No.3618746

>>3618412
Not as much glitchy as inaccurate
Usually in audio, or color

>> No.3618751

What kind of chaos is that? Why is Sega a separate folder but N64, SNES and NES are in the root folder? What lies behind the mysterious Other folder?

>> No.3619026

>>3618751
furry porn.

>> No.3619032

>>3618412
>emulations are glitchy
Says you're stuck in the 2000s, but
>An original cart can sell for up to $200 on the secondary market
Says you're in 2016.

>> No.3619037

>>3618413
Your mom has no games.

>> No.3619041

>>3618751
The Sega folder probably has Kega Fusion, which emulates pretty much every Sega system aside from Saturn and Dreamcast.

>> No.3619047
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>>3619041
This is what i get for being a slow fuck

>> No.3619051

My friends refuse to play on emulator
They want to play on SNES tho.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>> No.3619054

>>3618389
Playing on the original hardware is more comfortable.

>> No.3619060

i see no reason to play modern consoles.

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3619214

OP is a pleb.

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3619223

>>3619214
How's this?

>> No.3619225

>>3619223
Better, but need the release year so you can play them chronologically. Also: icons.

>> No.3619229

>>3618389
I agree for the most part, but i'll pick up some things once in awhile. Not a collector though, collecting anything is silly because it never ends.

>> No.3619232

Imagine someone thinking N64 emulators are an approximation of the original game.

>> No.3619235

>>3618389
*tips fedora* well said my brother

>> No.3619238
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3619238

>>3618412

>> No.3619245

>>3619225
But some systems are far more longlived than others.
I'll think about icons but I'm not sure if they really help.

>> No.3619315 [DELETED] 

>thinking N64 emulation is even remotely passable
>"PSX"
No surprise here

>> No.3619446
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3619446

>>3619315
>spot the pretentious hipster kid born post 90'

>> No.3619483

>>3619446
>resorts to esoteric examples
It's either PlayStation or PS. Why would we even need anything else when the PS2 hasn't even been released yet?

>> No.3619505

>>3619483
It was PSX even before it was even released, it was PSX long after in various magazines and publications.

You obviously weren't there to see and/or read it.

>> No.3619608

Anymore I just do everything emulated.

BUT, I do like using the original controller where I'm able to.
I do have about half a dozen adapters for various controllers.
It's enough for me to maintain the "feel" since the controller is the only thing you physically touch when playing and many games did have controls that were designed with said controller in mind.
If I'm feeling lazy I'll just use a DS4 or a keyboard

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3619621

anybody else use the wii classic controller for all their emulation? its beautiful

>> No.3619653
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>>3619621
Do you know of any good six button controllers? Particularly one that's good for n64 emulation?

>> No.3619676

>>3619446
Oh my god. I think I just made OC. Someone is using the image I originally created.

>> No.3619719

Good, less demand means better offers.

>> No.3619742

>>3618410
this

>> No.3619750

>>3619653
>Do you know of any good six button controllers?

Sega Saturn USB pad. The originals are impossible to come by for a good price, so buy a normal Saturn pad and swap out the PCB to one of those USB knockoffs.

>n64 emulation

hahaha, good joke man. Good joke.

>> No.3619835

>>3619750
Or just get a original and a mayflash adapter. Works great, no added latency.

>> No.3619959

>>3618389
>N64
Yeah enjoy your glitchy emulation, pal.
Also I love emulators, they can only do so much. How am I going to play my Star Wars Battlefront 1 / 2? Does the PS2 emulator handle those games well now?

>> No.3619973

>>3619621
I do. Best controller for retro games.

>> No.3619975

Two words:
Input. Lag.


Even Byuu agrees and that guy has weapons-grade autism:
http://libretro.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5428

>> No.3620780

>>3619975
>not doing same tests for original hardware a proper comparison
>not doing tests for Retron and the likes
>testing on MemePie and Win10
>so many other things wrong

Well, he has autism alright.

>> No.3620796

>>3619621
>>3619973
I wish the wiiu one worked with computers, I'd use it for emulates

>> No.3621412

>>3618410
and PSX emulation, and Sega Saturn emulation, and TG16 sounds like shit, and genesis sounds like shit, et cetera.

>> No.3621423 [DELETED] 

>>3619214
>no Microbee
>no SC-3000
Top plen.

>> No.3621845

>>3619214
>Lokaler Datenträger

the fuck is this ooga booga nigger language.

>> No.3621858

>>3618437
When I first acquired them I wasn't old, they were top of the line new. Your mileage may vary.

>> No.3621864

>>3621845
Dutch maybe

>> No.3621867

>>3621845
>>3621864
Dutch faggor here. Its german

>> No.3621889

>>3621867
Anon was right, it IS an ooga booga nigger language.

>> No.3621894

>>3619060
word.
nowadays pc is the best option.

>> No.3621902

>>3618389
Where's your PSP emulator?

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3621917

>>3621902
>emulating an emulator
woah

>> No.3621923

>>3621902
PSP has no games worth emulating.

>> No.3621924

poor dumb emulating scum

>> No.3621925

>>3621923
Your mom has no games worth emulating.

>> No.3621926

>>3619621
It's my favourite controller ever. I even use it for not retro pc games

>> No.3621927

>>3621917
Some people like to use Dolphin's (Wii emulator) N64 virtual console because it's more accurate.

>> No.3621946

>>3621924
Collectortrash should be gassed.

>> No.3621958

Man, I just want to play my old games IDC how

>> No.3621959

Does MAME support shaders and meme resolutions?
I'm sick of retroarch and mednafen doesn't have them.

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3621992

I had fullsets of every major console and arcade then I realized that I never fucking played them, I just liked having them, so I deleted it all and got those 500GB back to put porn on. And now I'm happy.

>> No.3621994

>>3621992
Hard drives are cheap as fuck.

>> No.3622106

>>3618410
Came here to say this. N64 is the one system that convinced me that emulators aren't a total replacement for real hardware. With few exceptions, emulation is only good for systems up to the PlayStation.

>> No.3622138

>>3618389
Ok.

>> No.3622176

>>3622106
It's a mixed bag with n64 some games are just broken still on n64 emu

Most games play better though.

N64 had some awful frame rates on a lot of games. It's also not so easy to find decent controllers these days the analog sticks weren't built to last.

Most people don't want to make the effort to replace the analog either.

>> No.3622192

>>3622176
Thats because 90s kids never took care of their shit. My N64 controller is still as good as ever since the launch in '96. See things like Mario Party 1 back then and how they completely fuck up their controllers by spinning it around with their palms and stuff like that.

>> No.3622203

>>3622192

Yeah, I have two fairly okay condition controllers still from my Jap n64 from release.

If they were to break I'd never find another in good condition.

The thing is playing most games emulated is still a better experience (for me anyway I'm not so fussed about accuracy etc. I just want to be able to enjoy my old games)

Some games I've never gotten to work in a decent manner: Perfect Dark, Yoshi's Story, Mischief Makers, Silicon Valley and a few others so these are all best played on the n64

Pretty much everything else though I enjoy just as much or more when I emulate.

>> No.3622220

>>3619223
>Amiga
topkek

>> No.3622221

>>3619621
I bought a mayflash USB adapter for this and it's utter shit, you need to replug it after every reboot ans sometimes it presses buttons randomly, is there any better alternative?

>> No.3622229

>>3622220
What's so special about that?

>> No.3622230

>>3622221
my mayflash saturn adapter works fine

>> No.3622316

i play only one game on N64, but yeah, emulating N64 is crap

>> No.3622317

>>3618413
star fox alone is worth owning an n64. I turn it on weekly.

>> No.3622513

>>3622192
>My N64 controller is still as good as ever since the launch in '96.
Yeah but it's still objectively a flawed controller in that regard.

It's precise but brittle.

>> No.3622518

>>3619214
I love you.

>> No.3622540

>>3618389
>I see no reasons to own old consoles.
no input lag, unless there's tricks to eliminate in emus I'm not aware of...

>> No.3622564

>>3622540
>maymay

CPU power and RAM basically eradicates input lag, if anything it's faster than the real thing unless you're a muh accuracy byuu fag.

>> No.3622573

>>3622540
The actual input lag is neglegible. Many speedrunners use emulators even for non TAS runs, and they still do fine, even in places where frame-accurate reaction is important.

Also this test >>3619975 shows significant lack of understanding of a scientific method in whoever have done the tests.

>> No.3622574

>>3621959
>Shaders
Limited unless you make your own.
>res
Should suppork anything your videocard and monitor can suppork. Of course distortions vary.

>> No.3622576

>>3622573
>frame-accurate reaction is important
Slowing down the game makes those parts easier, mate.

>> No.3622579

>>3622576
I said non-TAS.
Non-100% speed accurate playthroughs are counted as TAS.

>> No.3622580

>>3620780
Basically anyone using Rapeberry Pee with RetroArchshit, or the worst version M$ gets lag. Which means, they're retarded.

>> No.3622581

>>3622579
>TAS
Ah really? All The TAS speedruns I've seen uses hacks and bots ,beating the game within minutes if not seconds.

>> No.3622583

>>3622317
Do you turn it on, or does it turn you on?

>> No.3622587

>>3622540
>input lag
i don't feel it, and i think real hardware have also lags.

>> No.3622592

>>3622581
For uneducated:
TAS means "Tool Assisted Speedrun"

Tool Assist may be anything. Bots are rather rare, and hacks are shunned and considered improper since they are impossible on original hardware.

Most of the time proper TAS is speed manipulation or outright frame-by-frame advancement. It makes ridiculous exploitation of game mechanics and glitches possible, but most often those same glitches exist in the base game, and same speedrun would theoretically be possible on an original hardware if whoever plays it has inhuman reflexes.

That is the whole point of TAS: show what can be done in the "perfect player" scenario. Unlike regular speedrun which focuses not only on glitches, but also player's ability to execute them, TAS focuses solely on using existing glitches in the best way and combination possible under ideal circumstances to reach the new depth of "fastest theoretically possible playthrough"

>> No.3622696

>>3621994
Anon you're replying to is poor as fuck.

>> No.3622792

>>3622221
bluetooth. i use a custom script with GlovePie but apparently WiinUSoft is supposed to be decent

>> No.3623565

>>3619959
Why not just get the PC versions, dipshit?

>> No.3623575

>>3622203
PJ64 handles Perfect Dark just fine, but that may just be a ROM thing

>> No.3623578

>>3622574
>suppork

Half suppoon, half fafork

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>>3623578

>> No.3623642

>>3618389

Anyone know where i can get a good verified romset with only the good games / essentials for SNES?

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>>3618389
As an emufag myself, I disagree. Consoles are still superior to emulation as consoles have 100% accuracy and all the perks of physicality like sexy carts, boxes and jewel cases.
If I had the money, I would get consoles in a heartbeat, but alas, I'm a poorfag with a toaster.

>> No.3623697

>>3622696
Yes, and? HDDs are very cheap in terms of $ per GB. DVD-Rs might be even cheaper, but who the hell loads their ROMs or ISOs from a DVD?

>> No.3623698

It's easier than fucking around with getting emulation to run well on a crt. and much more comfortable and social to chill in front of the tube and play games. I emulate on android, pc, wii and psp. Legit console with copied media or roms is the way to go.

>> No.3623702

>>3623642
>good verified romset with only the good games

Why even get romsets then? The idea of downloading setsis to get everything all at once. Just read a top 100 list or something, then find those games in your romset.

>> No.3623704

>>3623698
>getting emulation to run well on a crt

Just set the resolution to its original/native size/refresh rate, get the right conversion wires, and plug 'em in. Don't be autist.

>> No.3623828

>>3623704
>Don't be autist
>on /vr/
Too late!

>> No.3623840

>>3623575
Are you sure? It has been 3ish years since I last tried it but I had pretty top of the line hardware then and I don't think n64 emu has come far since.

It was real laggy the framerate was unbearable

Goldeneye ran ""pretty okay""" for the most part but I had a lot of glitches with sky boxes just being a mess

Maybe I needed to look up some plugins or something

Most importantly though Goemon never runs well

>> No.3624108

>>3623840
That particular emu comes preloaded with a decent array of plugins and your game list has a column for telling you if a particular game runs smoothly as-is or if you'll need to do some tweaking before loading it up.

Only games I ever had issues with were the move menus flickered during battles in Pokémon Stadium and one of the Mortal Kombat had some flicker and distortion with the background.

>> No.3624121

>>3622564
>faster than analog systems that are literally limited by the speed of light alone
Are you a retard?

>> No.3624194

>>3624121
>consoles are not limited by measly mundane things like *gasp* data processing speed limitations of their logical processors and efficiency of code!

>> No.3624517

>>3624108
Odds are, if what you're playing isn't a popular, well-documented first party game, it's not going to have all the right speed hacks and compatibility fixes to run "accurately" in an n64 emulator. I put "accurately" in quotes because no playable n64 emulator works at as low of a level as a typical NES/SNES/Genesis or even PlayStation emulator, and as such not even Nintendo's VC emulator runs Mario 64 100% like the real system.

>> No.3624632

>>3618389
Only Nes is fully accurate

>> No.3624726

>>3623704
yes just softmod your console/specific gpu to output 240p, get the correct programs and configure them. If you're using a pc(the only way to get high quality emulation) and a ntscu consumer crt you just have to combine the sync with a circuit, get a vga scart breakout, a rgb to yuv converter, a component cable and a 3.5mm to stereo rca cable for audio.

console: you plug it in and pop in a game. Or put roms on a sd card, put the sd card in a cart and play it.

It's not autistic. It's convenient.

>> No.3624728

>>3618410
It's the year 2016 and banjo tooie still can't be emulated without any random freezing.

>> No.3624914

>>3624517
Aye, if Nintendo would just cave and start releasing cross-platform, we'd have it made

>> No.3624927

>>3624632
BUT IS THERE INPUT LAG

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3626581

>Want to use Higan but the fullscreen mode will forever be fucky looking

>> No.3626601

>>3622583
Probably both.

>> No.3626603

>>3622587
If you're used to it, you probably won't feel it, but you might be completely thrown off if you play it with less lag. Real hardware hooked up to a CRT is the base amount of lag.

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>>3626581
>Download SNES9x
>Input lag and some SFX seem cut short
>No way to fullscreen without pixel imperfection
>Download Higan
>Bretty damn good
>Go Fullscreen
>Higan attempts to keep pixel accuracy, which is good, but then decides to stretch the image horizontally and squish it because fuck you
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