/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3593708
Please, tell me more what you think about it, personal thoughts and opinions, rtc.
Its fun to see someone new to the topic describe with passion something that you knew for some time. Its refreshing, seeing it for the first time by proxy of newguys eyes.

>>3593714

I guess it's really refreshing for a game to have big uninterrupted chunks of great gameplay. No dialogue, no AI allies to worry about, no cinematic cutscenes other than the mission briefs or whatever. I feel like each level takes me about a couple of hours to complete. Its great to just get lost in a game and let time fly by. The guns, the health pickups, the powerups etc. It all feels so solid. It feels like a real GAME. I feel like regenerating health and other gimmicks really killed this genre.

>>3593708
Call of duty

>>3593708
Just wait until you get to level 4, you'll either give up at the first 30 minutes and look up a guide or get lost for four hours before calling it quits.

>>3593708

I just got an everdrive and have been revisiting all the N64 games.

The controls, man... those fuckin N64 controls. I just can't get as into the N64 FPS the way I used to now that we've been spoiled with proper twin sticks.

>>3593708
Did you play Time Splitters 2 & 3?

>>3593708

I love Turok 1 but could never get into Turok 2 due to the input delay, it's one of the most unresponsive games I've ever played. The PC version was a little better but still bad. I'm eagerly awaiting the remaster though.

As for an underrated series, if you've never played Hexen before, they're pretty good old school FPS games. Hexen 2 in particular is a very overlooked game. Ideally you'd want to play them in coop with a friend on harder difficulty, it makes it way more fun. They're somewhat similar to Turok in that there are different themed worlds, you'll get stuck and have to wander around for hours without a guide, and it's mostly pure action.

>>3593925

Level 4 is Lair of the Blind Ones right? I'll be tackling it tomorrow. What makes it so bad? I've had to backtrack to find missed objectives a couple of times already.

>>3593939

I played Time Splitters 2 briefly on PS2 a long time ago. Never got a proper impression of it. Are there any ports of it?

>>3593968

To be completely honest I haven't noticed input delay. There is a certain feel to the control though, like it feels kind of....weighty? Not sure how to describe it. Like there is inertia behind your actions. It feels like you're actually controlling a human, and that you can't zip around everywhere like you're light as a feather.

>>3593708
I always wanted to play Turok but with decent keyboard controls.
Is there a specific plugin or settings for this in Project64?

>>3594020

Pretty sure you should be able to bind keyboard keys. It was also released for PC way back in the day, and there is a remaster that came out last year with mouse controls + new graphics options.

>>3594020

I just customized the PC version controls to be like your standard WASD shooter. For n64 you might be out of luck, I don't think PJ64 has support for mouse but I might be wrong

>>3594017
I jumped level 3 and went directly to level 4, man its like a stand Alone game by it self, took many hours to finish it.

>>3593708
>How is this game not more well known?

Do you live under Iraq? Turok 1 and 2 are incredibly well known to anyone who actually gives a shit about video games beyond Skyrim and CoD.

>>3594151

I guess the franchise is pretty well known but what I meant was more along the lines of how does it not get more recognition for being as good as it is. I rarely see it talked about except in niche places like this

>>3594103
What is this?

An image for compy?

>>3594017
And it only gets worse from level 4 onwards.

On level six everything tries to kill you.

The doors leave you to die, the walls want to kill you, the floor toasts your ass, the water kills you, hell even the air gangs up with everything to try and kill you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOEF3gDVB38

>>3593708
2>1>3>Evolution>>>>>>Reboot

>>3596054
1>2>>>>Evolution>3>shit>>>>2008

>>3596060
>Putting Evolution above 3

>Those flying segments
>Generic weapons
>Shit graphics (even for 2002)

Nope

>>3596069
>Generic weapons
If there's anything Evolution did right it was the weapons. All 3 had was watered down version of 2's weapons.

>>3593708
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>>3596069
To be fair, every version of Evolution except the Xbox version are vastly graphically downgraded.

What the fuck, there was a Turok for the sixt gen?! Let me take a wild guess: it was as bad as the 2008 reboot for 7th gen.

Just completed Level 4. Really loved the underground/cave-diving atmosphere and the music was great. Got lost a couple times and had to backtrack from the end of the level to find a thermal vent I missed but overall not TOO bad. The guys with the crossbows were annoying as fuck. Also fuck spiders.

Am I the only one fascinated by the setting of these games? The concept of the Lost Land, a place unaffected by time where anything from any place or time period in the universe can co-exist. Dinosaurs, tribesmen, cyborgs, demons, mercenaries, robots, mutants, man-eating plants, cyborg dinosaurs, mutant dinosaurs, the undead, super-intelligent insects, etc etc. Sounds silly on paper but in practice is actually pretty fucking awesome. I wish they'd explore that concept a little more in the games.

>>3596845
The Lost Land is a great concept because it functions as the universe's dumping ground, allowing justification for literally anything to exist there. It's also cool how the inhabitants ended up there since random portals just spawn and suck up whatever is near by and bam, into the Lost Land you go.

Another reason why I hate Turok 2008 so much, as it retconed the Lost Land into a generic jungle planet that just happens to have dinosaurs on it.

>>3596916
>retconed

Hey, it can't retcon shit if it ain't acknowledged by the fans.

>>3596119
Yeah it's Turok Evolution. It's better than the reboot but not by much.

Doesn't Nightdive own the rights to Turok now? What's stopping them from making a proper sequel like they are with System Shock 3?

>>3597376
>SS3
>proper sequel
lets not be hasty here!

>>3597376
The same reason they can't release the level editor for T1, copyright mumbo jumbo.

These fucking cocksuckers are relentless. Seems like they take off at least 20 points of my health every time I fight one.

>>3597487
Son that ain't nothing, wait until you meet the endgame enemies.

Bring lube, 'cause that ass is gonna get stretched.

>>3593708
>Reminds me somewhat of old goodies like Serious Sam
>like Metroid Prime
Exactly. There you go. Serious Sam was a hold backwards and fire simulator largely. For all it's graphical majesty it was mostly kind of crappy. Metroid Prime was junk and the puzzle solving was basically non existent scan everything waste your time and the exploration was more take your time getting everywhere because the movement was so slow.
There's a bunch of mediocre FPS games you can try from 1998+

Let's see now, NOLF/2, Sin, Gunman Chronicles, Shogo, Quake 2, Blood 2, JK2, Wheel of Time, AvP, Star Trek games, Deus Ex, Bond FPS games, Red Faction, RtCW, Halo, etc...
The list of mediocre FPS that offers not very good gameplay combined with not actual puzzles is pretty much nonstop at that point.

>>3593708
>tfw aside from PC remasters, the Turok franchise is for all intents and purposes, dead forever.

Shit sucks.

>>3594029
>>3597643

>>3597680
Right? I got Seeds of Evil in my younger days on a whim and honestly, no other fps has felt the same. Not saying it's the top of the genre, but it just has this vibe that doesn't get touched on in the CoD generation.

>>3594020
Is there a reason to not play the new Turok 1 on PC?

>>3597678
>Serious Sam
>For all it's graphical majesty it was mostly kind of crappy
Only on /vr/ can you say this without getting setting the board on fire

>>3595598
Its a birds eye view from Hell it self.

>>3597678
So what do you feel are good FPS games?

>>3597578
Well it may be cheesing it, but most of the enemies in level 6 can be killed off without taking damage by keeping a round of that electifying gun ready.

>>3598769
charge rifle?

>>3597678

Serious Sam was fun as fuck desu famalam, especially co-op

>>3598769
Yeah, maybe if you're playing on the n64 and the framerate saves your ass.

That won't happen on the PC port though, you can have 200 health but the laser robots will tear you a new one in half a second, down your pants in 1 second and drill your ass with a dragon died in 1.5 seconds.

>>3598769 #
Yeah, maybe if you're playing on the n64 and the framerate saves your ass.

That won't happen on the PC port though, you can have 200 health but the laser robots will tear you a new one in half a second, drop your pants in 1 second and drill your ass with a dragon dildo in 1.5 seconds.

>>3599236
First PC fats says Turok 2's framerate on N64 makes the game too hard 'unplayable'. Then they say it makes the game too easy, that it 'saves your ass'.

Keep the story straight mustards.

>>3593925

I gave up 3 times in the mantis ship

I'll give it a new try when nightdive (some day) port it to steam

>>3597751

it costs 20 dollarydoos

I mean, I paid full price for it but really, it's expensive

>>3597678

that's a list of mediocre games¿?

>>3599684

ssssh. let him dream.