/vr/ - Retro Games

I can't remember if this was any good.
Flying Tigers.

>>3590665
U.N. Squadron/Area 88

R-Type games

Abadox
R-Type III
U.N. Squadron
Zero Wing
Einhander
Gradius III

Darius series. Eco fighters.

Macross: Scrambled Valkyrie

Hi no tori/Firebird (MSX)

battle garegga

Tyrian is my favorite

do-do-do-DODONPACHI!

>>3590665
Darius II (Sega Genesis & arcade)
Grid Seeker (arcade)
Twin Cobra (arcade & Sega Genesis)
Sky Shark (arcade)
Raiden 1 & 2 (If you can find it, use the Raiden Project version for PS1 and emulate it or whatever.)
Last Mission (arcade, a little primitive, but worth a run for how hard it is)
Raystorm & Galactic Attack (Taito's "Ray" shooters for PS1 and Saturn and I think originated in the arcade.)
Thunder Force 3 / 4 (Lighting Force. Both for Sega Genesis)

Go play Mars Matrix.

>>3590665
Darius Gaiden
G-Darius
Cho Ren Sha 68k

Came here to recommend R-Type, and these cool dudes

>>3590676
>>3590679

Beat me to it, consider thunder force/lightning force too, OP.

Legendary wings on the NES is pretty cool too

>>3590665
Gaiares is fucking awesome. Recommend it to everyone almost weekly.

>>3590665
Fantasy Zone (all of them really except for 3, and gear)
Twinbee
Parodius
tyrian 2000
thunder force IV
star parodier

Not sure how this game holds up against other SMUPS but it was pretty damn popular in my social circle and everyone had freeware / pirated copies.

It's fairly simplistic as far as these games go, but I liked the music and that you could combine your own choice of weapons, and the progress of getting money to pay for em.

>>3590665
I've been playing border down for the last week or so, I'm really liking it.

I just bought a dreamcast and didn't realize it was such a shmup machine. Border down is the most fun shmup on the system in my humble opinion

>>3590984

Oh wow, that game looks familiar, especially that font.

Did it have a mechanic where you bought weapons in between stages? I'm pretty sure I played that as a kid. Downloading it now.

>>3590679
Gradius 3 is great. The arcade version is fucking brutal though, I've only beaten the second boss once

>>3590984
>>3590665

Triplane Turmoil is also a really great game, old DOS abandonware.

It's not really a conventional shmup, but it's awesome. Has free scrolling with pitch/speed controls instead of fixed scroll up/down/left/right, mission is to destroy the enemy base. I guess it's sort of like Defender in a way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KMiH4x7WTk

Gameplay starts at 3:30

>>3590984
I played raptor to death on pc. Good times and what an incredible shump.

>>3591332
>>3591294

I just downloaded it, and it's the right game. It doesn't seem as good as I remember though.

Controls feel floaty/laggy and the framerate sucks. Maybe it's just a DOSBOX issue?

>>3590665
Vertical or horizontal shmups, /vr/?

>>3590665
RayForce
Gun Frontier
Armed Police Batrider

dodonpachi
battle garegga
touhou 6-12
ketsui
batsugun
xexex
xmultiply

>>3590938
>Legendary wings on the NES is pretty cool too

Aww, shit! My nigga!

Also, Life Force doesn't get enough love in these threads.

>>3591358
>>3591294

Yeah I'm not sure why that is, you didn't download the steam version I hope? I heard that one was complete arse. The controls themselves were always kind of floaty but it shouldn't lag badly enough for it to be a hinder.

>>3591327
Oh I can remember playing this game, my brother had it on his computer.

>>3591581
horizontal shmups are clearly better because you can do a lot of creative stuff with level design instead of just relying on enemy placement and boss AI like vertical shmups

>>3590665
Operation Spacehog
XOP Ultra

>>3592224
>horizontal shmups are clearly better
oh you are memeing now

Bio-Hazard Battle. Beautiful game.

Nice to see someone actually likes games

gun nac
cho ren sha
truxton

1942 (NES), Gyrodine (Famicom) and Sky Kid (Arcade).

>>3593750

Verts are typically bullet hell trash.

>>3591286
>border down
great taste
I play this fucker ever few months for weeks at a time. That and G.Rev's other game, Under Defeat

>>3590732
This. I play it at least once a year since it came out.

>>3594569
>1942 (NES), Gyrodine (Famicom)
just fucking why, both are pretty bad ports

>>3594658
Bullet hell just became popular in the 2000s you retarded fuck, they are only a subtype of vertical shooters

>>3594668
How long is border down? I just beat level 5 and assumed that was the end, but I continued on to a level 6a on a red border, died, and got a game over

>>3594865

Vertbabby spotted

>>3595089
Let me think. There's 6a 6b 6c and 6d.
6a and 6b are kind of the same.
6a is the default path while 6b is intentional, 6b is harder.

6c and 6d are kind of the same. However 6d is harder by virtue of what you have to get there alone.

To get to any of these stages you must:
1) Score high enough on 4 of 5 stages to borderup
2) Play the majority of your time in the border of the stage you want to go to; 6b- green 6c- yellow 6d- red

Oh to more accurately answer your question. That's as long as it gets. The joy is getting good enough to 1cc it, and then getting fucked up in remix mode.

>>3595128
I like both, limiting to only one is for retarded simpletons 2bh

>>3595157
Cool, I was hoping it was a bonus / something you had to do to get the true ending. It'd probably shatter my will to keep playing if level 5 turned out to only be the halfway point or something.

I don't know if my vmu shit the bed or if the game changes after the first time you get to that point, but I played it yesterday for the first time after beating level 5 and all of my high scores had reset. I also lost all the lives of my first continue at level 4 and got a game over instead of a continue. No idea why that happened, I should have earned at least 2 or 3 continues in that amount of play time on one continue.

play crisis force

Blazing Lazers
Lords Of Thunder
Radiant Silvergun
Blast Wind
Truxton
Magical Chase
Star Fox

>>3595218
That's odd. Could be the VMU yeah. I'm pretty sure it autosaves. At least I think it does.

>>3595218
I forgot to mention the endings. All the game over screens are somewhat canon. And 6A-6D all tell parts of the same story that fill in the gaps. It's pretty nifty. and sad

>>3595304
Yeah that's a really nice touch. I like the game over stills too, even though it's kind of generic animu I still like the style

harmful park is the best cute-em-up of all time

>>3596034
pop cown

Xexex, but be warned, there is no going back. Afterwards you realise just how shitty the rest is. But at least you'll have fun with this one.

Not OP but I'm also looking for a new shmup to play. I actually kind of like bullet hells, I've managed to 1cc touhous 6 and 7. I tried Ikaruga but it seems pretty heavy on having good reaction times which gives me trouble. Can anyone tell me which of the games in this thread are good, but don't move too fast?

>>3596082

A lot of retro shmups are pretty fast paced. That said, I might recommend the Ray series (Rayforce, Raystorm, Raycrisis). They don't skimp on the bullet density late game but are pretty chill otherwise. Among the three, though, Rayforce is final destination-tier in terms of difficulty. Have fun staying alive in that one without things getting hectic.

Dodonpachi might also be more your speed, the game throws bullet curtains at you at a respectable pace.

RefleX is not /vr/, but its original incarnation, Reflection, is. Give Reflection a try sometime, it's only three stages long.

>>3590665
What consoles do you own?
If you own a Super Nintendo that can play Super Famicom carts, then you should get Parodius Da!. The other ports are fine too, but Da! probably has the least amount of slowdowns. If you own a Saturn that is able to play import games, then you could collect the rest of the Parodius series on there. They are basically arcade-perfect.

>>3590665
Recca
Gradius (series)
Lifeforce
Parodius (series)
Space Megaforce
MUSHA
Blazing Lazers
Super Star Soldier
Soldier Blade
Final Soldier
The Guardian Legend
Zanac
Gun*Nac
R-Type (series)
Darius (series) [in particular the later games]
Ikaruga
Radiant Silvergun
Axelay
Twinbee (series)
1942 (series)
Gigawing
Mars Matrix
Crisis Force
anything by Cave
anything by ABA Games
Batsugun
XEXEX
In the Hunt

>>3590665
Smash T.V

Big money. Big prizes. You'll love it!

>>3590665
Recca
Gradius (series)
Lifeforce
Parodius (series)
Space Megaforce
MUSHA
Blazing Lazers
Super Star Soldier
Soldier Blade
Final Soldier
The Guardian Legend
Zanac
Gun*Nac
R-Type (series)
Darius (series) [in particular the later games]
Ikaruga
Radiant Silvergun
Axelay
Twinbee (series)
1942 (series)
Gigawing
Mars Matrix
Crisis Force
anything by Cave
anything by ABA Games
Batsugun
XEXEX
In the Hunt
Space Bomber
Strikers 1945 (series)
Air Zonk
Armored Police Unit Gallop
Blazing Star
Boogie Wings
Cotton (series)
Darius (series)
Otocky
Pulstar
Spriggan
X-Multiply
Sol Divide
Aero Fighters (series)
Twinkle Star Sprites
Quarth
Galaga '88
Space Invaders '95

>>3596180
Thanks for the recommendations. Been meaning to try Dodonpachi for a while so I'll give that one a go first.

>>3596230

>>3597081
why people always skip donpachi?

>>3590665

Demonstar series (Sequel to raptor) for PC.

http://www.mking.com/index.html

>>3595270
>Lords Of Thunder
Is that game really as good as people say?

>>3597140

Donpachi is nice, but feels a tad unrefined all around. I'd still recommend it.

>>that announcer

>>3598003
Why don't you try it?

Gradius III arcade (not SNES) if you find other Gradius games too easy. They didn't give a fuck about balance in this one

>>3590665

If you like Japanese bullet hell shmups try the eXceed collection (mainly 2 and 3) they are great. It also features a heavy metal soundtrack. Easily one of the best out there for PC.

>>3596230
>anything by cave

>>3590665
DoDonPachi
Raiden
Blazing Lazers

>>3590665

Look up Taito, Toaplan, Raizing/Eighting, and Cave and enjoy the best SHMUPs you'll ever find.

>>3596230
>anything by ABA Games
good call, anon.

play Final Boss
https://se-made.com/

>>3597140
Guy you responded to here. I didn't even know DoDonPachi was a sequel. Got DonPachi first cause of you and it's pretty damn fun. I'll probably stick with this one for a while before moving on to the next game.

whats a good entry level 2-player shump for me and my bro to try out?

>>3590665
Haley Wars.

>>3599603
Darius Gaiden.

Does /vr/ have a comprehensive list of horizontal shooters to play? I've been getting into the genre a bit lately, and quite enjoying it, but I'd preferably like a list of essential horizontal shooters ranked from easy to hard, so I can work my way through them.

>>3600345

for what system?

>>3600345
U.N. squadron on snes is pretty good for noobs. If you want a good place to start, check out Astro port's games, they mostly make horizontal shmups, they aren't vr but the games are quite old and are heavily vr inspired.
Don't be affraid to try any console shmup you like, they are mostly very easy compared to arcade ones.

>>3600345
As a guideline? No not really. I just play Salamander, Metal Black, and Border Down on rotation.

Keio Flying Squadron. Maybe it's because I'm just interested in history or maybe because it's a decent game.

>>3600707

Now that you mentioned Astro port Satazius is imo the best game. It plays similar to Gradius with great graphics and sound.

Real talk.

Does anyone else find Tiger Heli impossibly difficult, or am I just a pussy?

Never beat it on the NES as a kid, and have recently been trying. Things are looking grim, but I'm enjoying the tunes...

>>3601117
Tiger Heli is a tough game, but with enough practice you will beat the first loop eventually. Better play Flying Shark/Hishouzame though, that's the first real classic from Toaplan.

>>3597140
Most people don't realize DoDonPachi is a sequel. Honestly though, DDP has a much better soundtrack.

Stargunner. I never see this game get much love. It deviates a bit from the traditional model of shmups in that it has a shield/health system and a very customisable upgrade system. Played the crap out of it for years. Definitely not the best shmup of all time but it's still a blast.

>>3590665

A not so well known shmup for PC from 1997.
It was very impressive at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpHlVdsVZG4

>>3601705

looks like it was inspired by Viewpoint.

>>3590984
This was my first pc shmup. It is fairly easy but I had a lot of fun.

>>3598614
Seconded, especially if you like touhou.

>>3599603

>>3603908

G darius on PC or Playstation.

You can download the PC version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMG9GPLX9P0

THIS on the playstation

>>3590665
Cho Aniki

>>3590947

I bought Gaiares on a whim from my local game shop and I can't get past the second level. Shit's hard. Fun, though.

>>3607560
Shmups aren't usually my cup of tea so I can't really compare it to many others, but I definitely found it a really hard game and part of why I like it so much.

It's designed quite well so no one weapon is good all the way through. Sometimes you want the shots that home, other times you want the wide ones or even the powerful vulcans you get by shooting your bit at empty space a few times.

So you have to know what you're going to want for the next section so you can start looking for the right enemies to power up. That's pretty key, don't switch weapons unless you know there will be enough of one kind to level it up. Getting stuck with a weak weapon is doom in that game.

>>3606014
This looks so sad compared to glorious sprite based Darius.

>>3598003
>multiple characters
>leveling system with choices
>great soundtrack
>challenging and fun
yeah its bretty good

>>3608953
>multiple characters

>>3608905

G. Darius has superior game play like boss rush mode.

>>3601705
I had trouble getting this one to work.

It would hang in fullscreen, but in a tiny window it ran fine.

>>3599603
Giga Wing is easily the best for casual co-op. If you time your reflects right you won't have to dodge a single pattern in the game.

>>3608905

Like the R-Type series, 1 and 2 had better sprite based graphics but Delta had better game play imho.

>>3598003
I love it, especially the soundtrack.