/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3595467
I want a horipad for this reason alone, but the $100 price tag is a use drawback

N64 in emulator form looks decent and can run at 60 fps. It can be too fast for some games and the screen will flash if there are too many sprites.

>>3595486
Hori pads increase the framerate? What?

I see /vr/ is entering another "let's shit on the N64 CONSTANTLY" phase. It was nice to go even just a few weeks where that wasn't as frequent.

>>3595490
Sorry, forgot to mention that the controller is my main problem. I can deal with subpar framerates if I can actually play the game comfortably

>>3595493
I don't hang out on this board regularly and definitely don't post in n64 threads. I just got an everdrive in the mail yesterday and have been playing for a few hours after having gone forever without having booted up an n64.

The powerpoint framerate is pretty fuckin hard to miss, it blows my mind how I used to think these games were playable. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

>>3595467
>Most games on this system run at like 15fps.
Define "most".

>>3595517
>ignorance is bliss
Sure is, my deficient friend :^)

Road rash 64 rubs at 60fps if u got the xpansion pak

3D was a mistake

>>3595487
>N64
>emulation

>>3595517
Why would you buy a flash cart for a system you obviously don't care about?

The good n64 games are good af tho

>>3595493
It's better than most N64 IS TEH BST CONSOLE EVERE threads.
Calm your tits, you sound like a fanboy

>>3595639
I was feeling nostalgic. Wanting to play the Rare classics and the first party games that haven't been remade on modern hardware, plus a handful of other games I liked as a kid.

Not all the games have been bad to play, but most of the Rare games for sure just seem to have a ridiculously low framrate.

>>3595467
>first time in 7 or 8 years
Now wait, framerates in videogames were nearly as good then as they are now. So why was the N64 good enough for you 7 or 8 years ago but not now?

All right /vr/, lets have a contest to find the slowest, choppiest N64 game. Retail games only, prototypes don't count

I nominate Gex 3. Shit is insufferable.

>>3595718
I dunno, maybe I'm more of a pc fag now than I was then

>>3595729

Jet Force Gemini. NTSC version as it's actually okay on PAL. Wanted to get into it but the framerate is fucking terrible.

>>3595729

Perfect Dark with Widescreen and High Res mode turned on - enjoy blazing single digit FPS the Rareware way.

>>3595759
BUT THE GRAPHICS ARE SO SHARP

TRULY THIS IS WHAT THE AUDIENCE DEMANDED

>set N64 games to optional high resolution modes
>complain about low framerates

>>3595467
Not all N64 games are that bad, sure theyre low but at least most games are consistent. Then again it really depends which games you play and your tolerance for low/inconsistent frame rates. GoldenEye and Perfect Dark can chug pretty bad, but I still play them constantly as they're still really fun, but I guess I'm more tolerant to low framerate as I am to old game graphics. However, my tolerance for a game can end if the controls are bad or the game has confusing systems and mechanics.

>>3595756
Seconding this.

Jet Force Gemini is so painful to slog through. The Tribals bullshit only exacerbates it even further.

>>3595729
Duke nukem zero hour in hi-res mode. Stages having zero-checkpoints and being awfully long and hard makes it even more tedious.

>>3595759
>>3595729

perfect dark combat simulator

>widescreen
>high res
>8 simulants
>4 players
>mines only
>final destination

>>3595467
and it gets worse every 5 years

>Quality over quantity: the console

How true is this?

>>3599745
Depends if you consider kiddy collectathons and laggy first-person shooters as quality.

>>3599756
>mature games for mature mustards like myself

>>3599745
It doesn't even has many games from any genre except FPS and platforming.

It's not true, this argument may work for something like the gamecube but it doesn't work for the N64

>>3595467

git gud like the rest of us

>>3599816
>It doesn't even has many games from any genre except FPS and platforming.
How many truly popular games in 2016 are not literally FPS games or open world collectathons?

>>3599843
Who's talking about popular games?

>>3599745

We had this thread not too long ago, didn't we?

N64 has a lot of great games, but people focus on the memes ("only has mario and zelda!" "collectathons!" etc)

>>3595467

It was all about story and gameplay which most games have lost now

>>3599865
The N64 Goemons didn't do anything new that the SNES Goemons hadn't done already, not sure why N64 babbies always bring them up.

>>3599879

Maybe they bring them up because they're good games and not 1st party. Does it bother you too much, anti-n64 babby?

>>3599843
GTA 5, Hearthstone, Dark Souls 3, Smash Bros... yeah I see your point.

>>3599881
Only Nintendo fanboys would be okay with literal rehashes. Pathetic.

>>3599901

>b-b-but the nintendo fanboys!

fuck off shitposter.

>>3599901

Actual Nintendo fanboys wouldn't care about non-Nintendo IPs.

You tried, I guess.

Anti-N64 posters are always the cutest. They try to act all high and mighty about how they think the N64 sucks because "it only has nintendo games" or "only has collecthatons" but when people come up with other good games that are on the system and don't match the criteria they say, they go apeshit.

Few consoles cause as much butthurt, and I don't quite get why, but it's fun nonetheless.

>>3599910
>Few consoles cause as much butthurt, and I don't quite get why

It's because even though PS1 won the console war, N64 had a disproportionately large number of top games from that generation. It rustles them. That's why they go "collectathon!! xD".

Literally Fox and the Grapes.

>>3599921
suck my dick bitch

>>3599921
>N64 had a disproportionately large number of top games from that generation.

Maybe in North America, the only place where the N64 had some relevance.
In the rest of the world the "top games" from that generation were PS and PC games, even in Japan the N64 was largely ignored, to this day the Saturn left a stronger mark than the N64.

Not saying the N64 didn't have its share of good games like Hybrid Heaven, there are also a few really neat niche games like the only 3D Dezaemon title, but it was terribly lacking in literally everything and no silly argument is going to change that, especially a "quality over quantity argument" when the quantity of most genres is less than five games, only one of which turns out to be actually a good game.
And no, all those games like S&P or the Zelda games aren't really the games people make them out to be, just like Metal Gear Solid and FFVII, they aren't special snowflakes.

The Playstation One even had the better bond game.
https://youtu.be/ACniBgfYYU4

I really hope this new trending meme of the n64 being shit goes away and dies soon.

I still play my 64 and have no issues with it.

>>3600030
It seems this newest wave has lots of roots in criticizing the framerate, which is definitely a hindsight criticism. Nobody cared about framerate back then. Late 90s gaming was all about GRAPHICS, GRAPHICS and also the GRAPHICS.

>>3599745
Super Mario 64 has the best platforming mechanics of all time.

The stages are designed to work organically with your moveset so that your freedom scales directly with your skill at the game.

You can complete objectives in millions of different ways, and the skill ceiling is pretty much endless, so the replay value never stops.

>>3600035
Part of it, I would argue, is that older titles tended to be looser in all aspects. There's also no more HOLY FUCK 3D GAMES element to it anymore. We expect well executed 3D from modern titles and it's more glaring when it isn't delivered as a result.

>>3599989
>And no, all those games like S&P or the Zelda games aren't really the games people make them out to be, just like Metal Gear Solid and FFVII, they aren't special snowflakes.
Friendly reminder that according to Rockstar games, if you claim your modern 3rd person game isn't based on Mario 64 or Ocarina of Time, you're a liar.

>>3600020
Eurocom's TWINE is much better. The Black Ops version is like the Gearbox Nightfire. It has some neat ideas, but it ultimately lacks the design brilliance of Eurocom's work.

N64 is trash. I'm glad at least /vr/ is redpilled enough to realize that.

>>3600030
ask a real human bean
N64 is the retro console i've seen people actually play in real life 10 / 20 years later the most

>>3600129
Aww, still buttmad that nobody wanted to play Playstation's "multiplayer" with you back in the day? How adorable.

>>3600098
There was a lot of experimentation of 3D gameplay done on N64. PS1 developers seemed content for the most part to take older generation stuff and replace sprites with polygons.

Of course, as soon as any N64 game was considered a successful breakthrough in design, out come the PS1 clones...

>>3600132
The N64 could offer some fun multiplayer experiences, but for Nintendo fanboys in the later half of the 90's, we had to play the same 4 or 5 good single player games over and over again.

>>3599901
>>3599905
>>3599907

BTFO

Sega fan here.

N64 is actually my favorite Nintendo console. The EAD games for N64 are AM2-tier.

>>3595467
The best games have been remastered on the 3DS anyway

>>3600273

>implying

>>3599989
>the only 3D Dezaemon title

There are 3 of those.

>>3599907
Nintendo fanboys only care about games that are released on Nintendo systems, not just first-party games. Retard.

>>3600234
>samefagging this hard

>>3595467
I never owned a N64. Just a nice computer with a lot of games.
I've never really played Ocarina of Time or Majora's Mask. I was too busy playing Command & Conquer, King's Quest, Monkey Island, Arena, Daggerfall, Lost Dutchman Mine, Rise of the Triad, Quake, etc.
I don't geddit.

>>3600408
>Nintendo fanboys only care about games that are released on Nintendo systems, not just first-party games. Retard.

[citation needed]

So you claim everyone who likes a game, even if it's 3rd party, on a Nintendo system means that they're automatically "nintendo fanboys"? Nice boogeymen.

>>3600440
>[citation needed]
Show me a Nintendo fanboy who doesn't include a Rareware, Capcom or Squaresoft game in their favourite games list. Oh right, because they do.

>So you claim everyone who likes a game, even if it's 3rd party, on a Nintendo system means that they're automatically "nintendo fanboys"?
No, I'm saying you'd have to be a Nintendo fanboy to consider the N64 to be a good system, when it had the worst library of the Big 3 in that gen. You bringing up random weebshit that nobody cared about back then doesn't change the fact that N64 was a failure.

>>3601007
i don't have any capcom games in my favorite games list and i'm a huge nintendo fanboy.

>>3601007
>No, I'm saying you'd have to be a Nintendo fanboy to consider the N64 to be a good system, when it had the worst library of the Big 3 in that gen
I consider the n64 and ps1 both great consoles. I couldn't give less of a fuck about saturn.

>>3601007

I'm not a Nintendo fanboy, but you're just silly if you think anyone who likes games on the system is automatically a "nintendo fanboy".

I hope you're just "pretending to be retarded" in search of (You)s, would be sad if your posts aren't ironic.