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3570050 No.3570050 [Reply] [Original]

Is a Raspberry Pi at all decent as a retro emulation machine?

>> No.3570053

>>3570050
It does everything up to and including PS1 pretty well (a bit of lag with some PS1 titles).

>> No.3570056

>>3570050
It is pretty good, having usb makes it very versatile in controller support and it has a higher resolution output than something like the wii.

>> No.3570057

>>3570050
I'd say just get an old dell, by the time you can all the adapters and parts for the Pi (unless you already have them) it'll end up costing $60+ depending on what you want to do.

>> No.3570059

>>3570057
this or get an embedded x86 board and pop it in whatever old case with a psu you can find.

>> No.3570074

Thanks for all the responses

Really comes down to price point for me, super poor fag here, but will for sure take a look at the x86 and older computers.

>> No.3570081

>>3570074
I like people like you, smart with their bang for buck.

>> No.3570082

>>3570074
I guarantee a cheap ass Pentium 4 will be cheaper than a RasPi with all the hookups. You can find P4s on the street these days. Sometimes a Core 2 if you look around.

And with that you could get everything up to Dolphin running pretty well.

>> No.3570090

>>3570082
No dedicated graphics needed?

>> No.3570092

>>3570081
And I like people like you

Y'know, just being nice and all

>> No.3570102

>>3570082
I see what you mean with P4, they are pretty cheap and have better specs then the pi

>> No.3570109

>>3570092
If you have a throw away email, post it and let Christmas begin.

>> No.3570120

>>3570092
>>3570109
Come on man, I'm ready to send you an Odroid XU4 for nothing...

>> No.3570124

Consider a second hand PSP. It's an amazing emulation machine

>> No.3570126

Eh, you're better off with a Wii and its native 240i.

>> No.3570153

>>3570120
Sorry, but have to decline

But thank you for the thought, you've given me hope for humanity and that's like double Christmas in my eyes

>> No.3570180

>>3570090
Emulation is much more CPU dependent than GPU dependent.

>> No.3570185

>>3570120
I want an Odroid XU4 for nothing

>> No.3570371

fugg the raspberry pie you should get you a NES Classic edition and play it int he bathroom while your takin a shit!!!!!!!!

>> No.3571197

Think I will get the Odroid, it's not that much drastically more expensive then the pi, but it seems to run almost twice as fast. Looks like a good bang for the buck.

>> No.3571203

>>3570090
The i915 was the igp on most p4 chipsets iirc. Under Linux those got OpenGL 4.x support with the gallium drivers, so any emulators that actually need a GPU should be supported fine. No idea about windows OpenGL drivers for that, but Intel probably writes them, so I'd guess they'll be good as well.

Emulating anything older than a GameCube or PS1 probably won't use the GPU at all, unless you choose some silly rendering mode to make it look like scan lines.

>> No.3571214

>>3570124
Seconded. PSP will handle NES, SNES, GBC/GB, GBA, PS1. Not sure about Sega consoles since I never tried. Not to mention PSP has a strong library by itself.

>> No.3571228

So PSP vs Wii is just swapping Wii/gc/SNES functionality for PSP/ps1.....fair trade

>> No.3571243

>>3570082
>And with that you could get everything up to Dolphin running pretty well
Higher end Core 2 sure, Pentium 4 not sure so much

that pipeline and reliance on slower DDR really held it back. I've never used LGA775 P4 but I can't imagine it's much better

>> No.3571494

>>3570050
It's not looking that way to me.

There's not that many emulators. Even with a distracting ton of packages to sift through, I think it's like 50 000 or something. There's one for ZX spectrum though, that's a bit different. And some for Atari ST, N64, SCUMM dos games, nintendo DS and such, and I have no idea why, I sure as hell wouldn't trust those to run half decently.

I'm still trying to figure out how to make the resolution drop down when needed, instead of freezing.

It's left me looking to replace it with something with more features, then once I get the hang of that hopefully setting up that thing will be easier.

>> No.3571648

>>3570090
Why not? When I had the displeasure of being with a herd of cyber justice warriors, I noticed that there were tons of spare original Radeons floating about.

>> No.3571660

>>3570050
can it run Higan at full speed?

Is Higan better via retroarch or is that just a meme?

>> No.3571675

>>3570050

Yes, but the only way I got there was to compile my own RetroArch on a vanilla Raspbian installation.

Here's a tip - if you are happy with the emulators available in RetroArch, DO NOT INSTALL RETROPIE. Doing so means that you have to do twice the configuration for no reason because they use a ROM-selection front-end for an multi-emulator that already has a fucking ROM-selection front-end. And Emulation Station's configuration is way worse. Unless you care about ScummVM or DOSbox or that shitty Doom source port that's not ZDoom or some Amiga emulator, just skip RetroPie.

If anybody has the least bit of Linux know-how, I can tell anybody in this thread how to follow in my footsteps. I think there's also a flashable all-in-one made by the RetroArch guys, but I can't speak to how good it is or if it shares its config with RetroArch.

>> No.3571681

>>3570050

...continued from >>3571675

Also, make sure and get a Raspberry Pi 3. Pi 2 can't play SNES at full speed unless you use a shitty Pi-specific graphics stack that is missing features like the OSD.

>> No.3571729

>>3570050
Handles a few popular consoles up to but not including SNES fairly well. So, no.

>> No.3571809

>>3570082
>>3570102
Ugh! Fuck pentium 4 contraptions! They are such repulsive, clumsy, deformed shit.

No wonder they're still available now! No one wants them! I remember last time I was gearing up to salvage a PC in that range, and there were plenty of Athlon XPs at hand. And some even less grotesque machines. I almost scooped up an Athlon 64, but even more interestingly, I came across this one Pentium 3. It was an IBM. So it probably had a slightly off beat power supply with a 92mm fan. And the mainboard was ATX sized, but a part of it could snap off to shrink to micro ATX. Oh, and it was a Tualatin.

There might be dying Athlon laptops floating around - an opportunity to transfer the well regarded XP-M CPU into another (desktop) system.

>> No.3571986

>>3571809
A lot of people have an emotional connection to Athlon64. It's what they used during the silver age of PC gaming in the early 2000s.

>> No.3572004

>>3570050
Yes. It's good, even.

>> No.3572087

>>3570050
>underpowered
>input lag
>interlaced output
>minimal available software
>Is a Raspberry Pi at all decent
No.

>> No.3572425

>>3571660
>>3571675
>RA Shilling with Pie Shill
Cancerous Maximus

>> No.3572721

>>3571986
Hah, AMDroids have always just been goddamn AMDdroids. Even with the incredibly fucking lame K6-2, with the laughable 3Dnow gimmick that no programs actually fucking used!

>> No.3572747

>>3570050
Yes, its small and cheap and it does it's job.

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>>3570050
It's a fucking bizarre disappointment, I gotta tell ya.

Having dug through the repositories, and I'm talking for Raspbian, which is all about having DVDs upon DVDs of packages, there is so much that isn't there.

Nothing Sega specific - no SC-1000. No MAME yet, hence Z80 arcade games / maybe something a little stronger are left out. Nothing for Atari 8 bit systems! Scorched 3d doesn't seem to work / obviously doesn't have an openGL ES port, you'd think it would be way up there for such a priority, but guess not.

>> No.3572776
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3572776

>>3570050
It's a fucking bizarre disappointment, I gotta tell ya.

Having dug through the repositories, and I'm talking for Raspbian, which is all about having DVDs upon DVDs of packages, there is so much that isn't there.

Nothing Sega specific - no SC-1000. No MAME yet, hence Z80 arcade games / maybe something a little stronger are left out. Nothing for Atari 8 bit systems! No Tyrian. No Descent. No Douk or Shadow Warrior, or ROTT. No pre-doom source ports. Scorched 3d doesn't seem to work / obviously doesn't have an openGL ES port, you'd think it would be way up there for such a priority, but guess not.

>> No.3572853

>>3572776
No Hexen 2 either, that's rather a waste, they went so far as to make Quake run extra well on the Pi, and they won't exploit that to bring in H2?

>> No.3574796

>>3572425
Says one of /vr/'s cancerous shitposters.

>> No.3575497

>>3572721
Quake 2 and Unreal would tend to disagree with you.

>> No.3575525

>>3570050
It's okay. I did play a bunch of Wipeout 3 Special Edition on my Pi 2 just fine, a Pi 3 should be even better.
you can do better probably, but the Pi is very well supported

>>3572776
none of that's in the repos -- like with an actual machine, you're gonna need to download it from elsewhere

a quick google for "eduke raspi" brought me a result really quickly
same with descent
and mame

hell, you could build each from source even if someone wasn't offering binaries as the first link
like, I'm convinced the whole point of open source to the common man is the fact that you can get shit working on whatever hardware and more often than not (even if not that much more often), it'll work as-is

>>3572721
no programs used it because Intel outright didn't support it ever, while AMD ended up having to support Intel's extensions to stay competitive, so people just targeted Intel's extensions
shit, AMD64 is pretty much the only time they've ever really made an impact on Intel's instruction set

>> No.3575630

>>3574796
Your /g/ /biz/ is showing

>> No.3575767

>>3575525
I don't exactly have time to start gathering games manually and compiling them from source ... I need to figure out how to get all the damn screens working properly, do various contrived stuff relating to input and try a whole lot of stuff with app type apps.

It's just a pain. It is a pi-1.I probably need to try out as much related stuff as possible on other boxes.

Anyway, look, my point was, while you have a lot of people inevitably chanting that the Pi is lousy for emulation, source ports and the like could very conceivably vault it up into a very appealing option.

>> No.3576276

>>3575767
>pi-1
No wonder you think it sucks. The Pi1 is shit in a box for anything other than very basic command line work. I use a Pi1 for a dirt cheap NAS and it can't even do that at full speed.

>> No.3576760

>>3576276
And yet the raspbian repositories have all that power hungry BS in them. Emulators, games like Frozen Bubble prone to nasty load times, openGL games, KDE, Gnome. Pidora *sounds* more power hungry, and I'm biased that it must have much less packages available.

>> No.3576780

>>3576276
and just note the atari XEGS image, I've been wanting to play 8-bit stuff, down to Intellivision, but then I don't have a separate keypad.

>> No.3577608

>>3576760
>>3576780
The issue is Raspbian pulls from a standard ARM repository instead of one custom-tailored to the Pi's hardware, let alone the different revisions of the Pi. Supposedly the only official "repository" is the Pi Store and it's a piece of shit since it's meant to be brain-dead simple.

The Pi one was novel when it released but it's really bad for just about anything that isn't basic automation. The Zero at least has its tiny form factor going for it. The 2/3 is much closer to what people thought the Pi was supposed to be capable of.

>> No.3577654

>>3577608
That is weird, it's ARMv6, it even has distro-options significantly limited. I'd suspect that the way it would be done is compiling certain packages alike for all A7 boards, and so on, and needing a bit more retooling for different Pi generation.

The Pi-store has been shut down, it tells you.

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3578614

>look up ways to get native resolutions from the composite port to hold me over until pi2jamma comes out
>articles claiming to have "perfect" output to CRT
>Step 1: HDMI converter

>> No.3579018

>>3578614
When you can pull native vga from the GPIO pins? And there are $5 pi adapters for it even! Just....why???

>> No.3579227

>>3578614
>pi2jamma
>the shit memeberry hipsters fall for

>> No.3579306

The odroid and pi comments have interested - what's the best SoC for emulation? The pi3 seems to do a decent job up through ps1, I played through spyro 2 and xenogears on the slower pi 2 with no problem. So how does stuff like the Odroid compare?

>> No.3580717

bump

>> No.3580721

Just use an old computer you fucking retards

>> No.3580857

>>3580721
Literally why

>> No.3582078

>>3570050
looking for one that does Component or S-video at least. just need one that emulates 2D really well.

>> No.3582542

>>3582078
The only one that does S-video is the old Beagleboard. The newer beaglebones may support it through the cape add ons which are their standard ways of handling video, but at least they're not common.

And, I think, the even older VIA epias, which could be seen as forerunners of sorts of these. Though those are relatively barren VIAs, and tend to be limited to more conventional video, like VGA...

...which actually is above S-video of course, if you're okay with using a CRT monitor instead of a TV. If you're okay with that, there's also a decent number of arm-A7 boards that have it.

>> No.3582730

>>3582542
I actually wanted to use it on a CRT TV but it does not have a VGA port.

>> No.3582915

>>3582730
Yup, CRT TVs don't have VGA ports, nor do monitors have RCA or S-video connectors, ultra special exceptions aside.

The likely solution would be some sort of S-video through GPIO adaptor, if that does get implementer before other alternatives. There's talk about making the R-Pi's composite exclude chroma information, which would simplify it halfway.

There's even development being done for far more complex outputs:
>>3568469

>> No.3582929

>>3571228
Consider within Wii the arcade and N64 games you can get on VC

>> No.3585236

>>3579227
What's wrong with it? I would be looking more towards the VGA version, but it's not like there's anything besides those two, is there?

>> No.3585286
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3585286

Check this, Russia's jumping into the CPU producing game!

They've decided on two designs. One is a dual core 1.2ghz MIPS32, the other is an octa-core 2ghz arm A57, so just like the pi3 except twice the cores, clocked higher, and *big* CPUs instead of *LITTLE* ones.

Sounds like a promising alternative to this. Though of course, 2 ghz-ish quadcore would probably be ideal, whether it's ARM or MIPS.

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3585296

Perhaps a MIPS CPU will allow a speed efficiency boost from a related architecture, for platforms like N64 and certain arcade machines, the way that DOSBOX had a special mode that runs faster on x86 systems.

>> No.3585415

>>3585236
Aside from it being an overpriced kludge for an overpriced meme gadget? Not much. There are plenty of small devices that output VGA that are better and cheaper than a memeberry+pi2jamma.

>> No.3585896

>it has input lag
No noticeable lag on my pi 3
>just use an old pc
The pi is smaller and will fit into retro console cases
>it doesn't do N64 at full speed
N64 emulation isn't perfect on a PC either, its still best to use the original console imo
>it doesn't do proper SNES
All I had to do to fix the SNES emulation was change one setting
>just use a wii
I think it's better to have a wii u with wii/gc games on a flatscreen, while having the pi on a crt
>just use a psp
It doesn't feel right playing console games on a mobile, but that could just be me

>> No.3585906

>>3585896
>>it doesn't do proper SNES
>All I had to do to fix the SNES emulation was change one setting
Whats wrong with it? What did you change?

>> No.3585914

>>3585906
I changed the core PiSnes I think, or maybe it was catsfc.
It has to be a pi 3 though because the rest aren't powerful enough.

>> No.3585918

>>3585914
aight, I will look into that. Thanks

>> No.3585927

>>3585918
Sure. Pretty sure it was PiSnes

>> No.3585974

>>3585286
>dual core 1.2ghz MIPS32, the other is an octa-core 2ghz arm A57

AFAIK Most emulators only utilise 1 core. They really should just use a duocore with the highest clock speed or find some old Pentium 4 chips.

>> No.3586830

>>3585974
That's exactly what's interesting about it. The first one they've released is the dual MIPS one, and supposedly it runs rather decently.So if that one was just clocked up to the 2 ghz range, it should be good.

And the ARM one is an A57, not an A53/A35/A7/A8/A5. Though an even stronger Qualcomm Kryo would have been fitting if it's going to be used in desktops.

>> No.3587239 [DELETED] 

I fell for the Raspberry Pie 3 meme and bought one, installing RetroPie and buying 4 USB SNES controllers to download old games with my buddies cause are smart enough to know about why we should use a CRT, resolution problems, alternative emulators, etc.

However, this last time I brought it I ran into two issues:
1. My friends TV keep blinking black and then back periodically while we were playing. I've played with my girl at my house and have never experienced this.

2. It would not connect to my friend's Wifi. I believe it was an incorrect password, despite multiple attempts.

So far, googling has told me that I need to edit the config.txt or something to give more power to the HDMI port? I hope that makes sense or sounds familiar. Secondly, apparently the standard default keyboard is a British Keyboard?!?! So when I typed #, it actually typed the Euro??!

I know I'm retarded to you guys, but is the above accurate? This happened Monday, and I haven't had time to try and fix it.

>> No.3587241

I fell for the Raspberry Pie 3 meme and bought one, installing RetroPie and buying 4 USB SNES controllers to download old games with my buddies cause none of us are smart enough to know about why we should use a CRT, resolution problems, alternative emulators, etc.

However, this last time I brought it I ran into two issues:
1. My friends TV kept flickering to a black screen periodically while we were playing. I've played with my girl at my house and have never experienced this.

2. It would not connect to my friend's Wifi. I believe it was an incorrect password, despite multiple attempts.

So far, googling has told me that I need to edit the config.txt or something to give more power to the HDMI port? I hope that makes sense or sounds familiar. Secondly, apparently the standard default keyboard is a British Keyboard?!?! So when I typed #, it actually typed the Euro??!

I know I'm retarded to you guys, but is the above accurate? This happened Monday, and I haven't had time to try and fix it.

>> No.3587698
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3587698

I have an idea for a project with a Raspberry Pi. I want to gut an old, preferably broken PS1 and stick a Pi in there but I want to use all the original ports including the AV port and output to a CRT. Am I right in thinking this is as simple as wiring up the correct pins on the AV socket in pic related?

It's also possible to get RGB out with a VGA GPIO board. It's also possible with a HDMI to VGA converter but I'd rather steer clear of that if possible. The problem with this is that VGA has H and V sync and I'd need to combine them somehow, I'm not entirely sure how I'd go about doing that.

Has anyone undertaken anything like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjUBQKyeWlQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKYFKjiO6bc

>> No.3588135

>>3587698
this should combine H and V sync
http://www.epanorama.net/circuits/sync_r.html
just don't connect the green output and don't put that capacitor, that's to get sync on green

but I don't know if it will work with the VGA GPIO board because of how that works, maybe you'll have to play with the resistor values of the H and V outputs

it should work straight away with an HDMI to VGA converter but that converter may add lag and I don't know if all HDMI to VGA converters support 240p resolutions, i'm sure that some do but since most of them are chinese off-brand you never know what model you actually have

if you configure it to output 1920x240 you can get pixel perfect video for all 240p games.

getting composite, s-video or component out will require extra conversion, these won't add any lag since they're analog conversions

>> No.3589850

>>3588135
>1920x240
What, seriously?

>> No.3589868

>>3589850
yes, read the description of the second video

analog signals don't have a horizontal resolution and 1920 is a multiple of the different resolutions consoles used so if you want pixel perfect output you need to use that

retropie and most frontends won't scale it properly, you need to use lakka (or retroarch on raspbian) and use the rgui. that will scale everything nicely

it's all in the description of the second video and in the comments

>> No.3590038

>>3570050
don't bother. I tried one out, a raspberry pi 2. it will run the mainstream stuff well enough for complete normies, but not for anyone with any sort of discriminating taste when it comes to emulation. arcade emulation on this thing is particularly headache-inducing and the emulators all use ancient romsets. avoid at all costs.

>> No.3590337

>>3590038

you don't need to like it but don't disinform people that are interested on it

>arcade emulation on this thing is particularly headache-inducing and the emulators all use ancient romsets

it runs the latest version of FBA both in retropie and lakka

>> No.3590359

>>3590038
I consider myself to be very well versed in the world of emulation and Atari, SMS, NES, SNES, SMS, Game Boy/Color/Advance, Neo-Geo, Turbo-Grafx all run wonderfully. Only a very small percentage of games have issues. And like the other guy said it runs the latest version of FBA. Sounds like you played an improperly set up Pi.

"Avoid at all costs" if you want to play anything from the N64 gen on I guess.

>> No.3590486

>>3590337
>it runs the latest version of shit so it's not shit

>> No.3590523

>>3570050
Buy a chink phone with a big IPS screen

>> No.3590528

Maybe NES and SNES, MD. It's dicks for anything later. I really think it's the type of thing you'd use for a lawn sprinkler setup or similar task.

>> No.3590530

>>3570050
Depends on what your goal is

>> No.3590550

No. Don't even bother.

The people who say they've tried and it works fine are either full of shit, or they just don't mind emultation that runs like utter dogshit.

The Pi is overhyped garbage.

>> No.3590559

>>3590550
>I couldn't make it work so I don't want anyone else to actually use it because that would mean they're better than me

>> No.3590579

>>3590559
I did make it work. I just don't consider frequent slowdowns to 15 fps at 320x200 to be 'working'.

>> No.3590591

>>3590550
This Odroid is much better.

>> No.3590896

For everything up to 16-bit, yes.
I'm running my stone old Pi 1 overclocked to 1Ghz and can play everything up to Megadrive/SNES without any flaws (except some SNES games with custom chips)

>> No.3590919

>>3590579
So you just don't know what the fuck you're doing?

>> No.3591051
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>>3590579

You're probably using your shitty 1A phone charger. You'll get lag if your power supply isn't good enough.

I can run everything up to PS1 just fine on my Pi3 with RetroPie. Emulation Station scraped all my ROMS just fine and it looks amazing.

N64 is okay. Mario 64 works just fine, as does Starfox 64. Other games have got audio and lag issues.

>> No.3591401

>>3570050
I don't think it can handle PS1 or N64.
But I want to buy it anyway and use it as a home server or something I can SSH into while away from home.

>> No.3591536

>>3590550
>>3590579
Well if you are experiencing slowdowns to 15fps you didn't set it up right or are playing N64 games, which you shouldn't even be trying to run on this thing. Don't spread bullshit around when most people who have Retropie agree that NES/SNES and the other consoles of those eras run fantastic for the most part.

>>3591401
>I don't think it can handle PS1 or N64.
Most PS1 games I've tried actually run really well, but there's noticeable input lag. I don't know how much has improved with the Pi 2, however.

N64 is bad though. You can get some games like Super Mario 64 running acceptably, but there's still a lot of glitches and slowdowns and audio issues on most of the N64 catalog (even on the Pi 3 from what I've seen).

>> No.3592047

>>3587698
I did it with an SNES with no problem.
I just plugged a 3.5mm cable into the pi, then soldered it to the proper places in the jack. Now I use the regular SNES video cable and it works fine. I had to use the overscan settings to get the picture lined up right, but it looks good to me. Maybe not pixel perfect, but I can't really tell either way.

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>>3591051
Is everybody using a phone charger? I have mine powered from the monitor. This creates an awkward situation, especially cause I'm used to turning my monitor off whenever I step out of the room, although I can work around that trivially by switching the input source monitor setting away from "DVI".

Well, I THINK it's taking power from one of my monitor's ordinary USB input plugs, I'm not completely sure, it doesn't turn on unless the hub cable, with the squarish connector that goes to the monitor's USB hub, is also plugged in, so I am wondering if the Pi(1) is taking power through both the phone-charger port and a regular USB port.

>> No.3594049

>>3570050
I was wondering about this. My brother run a bar and I was thinking of building this small little machine that can sit on the counter and run arcade games.

Are Pi's any good for things like that? I was thinking things like Metal Slug and those 1940's shmups. I know the whole barcades thing gets a bad rap, but it's my brother's joint and I figured he would appreciate something more interesting than a partially functional hunting game, two pool tables, and a basketball machine.

If there is a better way to make a small laptop sized-ish arcade 'cabinet' I would be happy to learn.

>> No.3594071

>>3594049
Should just get a cheap APU rig so it has a VGA output to use with a CRT for the best experience

>> No.3594087

>>3594071
In my experience CRTs tend to be big ol' bastards. I was looking at a 10 inch-ish LCD thing to put into a little wooden piece.

I'm aware of the whole frame delay and the shitstorm bait that is >filters but I imagine buzzed marines don't give much of a fuck about that if they can play Metal Slug and and Final Fight with a beer in their hand.

If this was a piece for myself I would try to make this a ultra high quality, muh arcade experience kind of project, but I don't think the people that would be using this thing would be able to discern those kinds of details.

>> No.3594095

>>3594087
The CRT is going to be best, not to mention no one is going to ever try to steal it

>> No.3594119

>>3594095
>>3594071
Looking up APU brings up $200 dollar price range just for the APU, and I was hoping that would be my max price, seeing as all this is going to be is an emulator, a screen, some buttons, and a few wood panels (plus some paint).

Raspberry Pis seem like a much cheaper option than APUs for this. Granted, I've never done something like this before so it would be a learning experience either way.

>> No.3594120

>>3594087
>>3594049

This is actually a good use case for the standard cheap LCD + pi cade projects that are all over the web. No point going full spaz with the RGB trisync monitor etc when some meathead's just going to spill beer on it.

Just search "pi cade". Tons and tons of people have built them, at various sizes.

Not 100% about actual arcade games (never played on mine), but everything up through 4th gen + PS1 plays great for the non-discerning gamer. Should almost certainly be able to handle galaga etc.

>> No.3594123

>>3594119
Where are you looking? here's AM1, the desktop platform is going to be better overall, plus you could also run like PS1/2/gamecube fighting games if you do a more desktop PC on the FM2+ platform

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/VkVKhM
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/VkVKhM/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD 5350 2.05Ghz Quad-Core Processor ($36.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock AM1B-M Micro ATX AM1 Motherboard ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $66.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-01 00:47 EDT-0400

>> No.3594136
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Are these worth getting? Looking at the building guide, it seems to be of nice quality.

>> No.3594139

>>3594123
Shit, is this really all it takes to make an emulation box? These two things, some wiring and a screen of some sort?

Fucking why haven't I done this already.

>> No.3594142

>>3594139
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, that's just the APU and motherboard

the pi is probably fine, but the desktop PC is obviously more powerful and lets you use a CRT

>> No.3594154

>>3594139
No. That person seems to have forgotten ram and a psu.

Also that build right there is about as good as a 2008 mid tier cpu. That specific apu is more than enough for n64 and older, but DC and newer will be unplayable.

You could do much better buying an old POS from a goodwill and adding a gpu for $50. Or ebaying some old parts, including a gpu, and going from there. Even buying a 2012-2013 high end apu build that is complete off ebay would be cheaper and better than what he posted. I just bought a 16gb 3870k apu build off ebay for $95. That came with psu and a gpu as well.

>> No.3594157

>>3594142
Without using 'video out' on an older gpu that is stuck to 480i, how can you do 240p from those gpus? I saw you can modify the radeon drivers but how can you turn VGA into component with no lag? Just wondering for a future build.

>> No.3594165

>>3594157
the what now?

Going from VGA to component is a relatively expensive endeavor, an active adapter is the way to go for that, but by CRT i meant a PC monitor of any kind

>>3594154
the main point of the AM1 thing is a low power ITX rig

>> No.3594169

>>3594157

crt thread has recs if you ask. The hard part is getting the VGA into 240p + csync in the first place, after that you just buy a little $50-100 box + maybe $20ish in cables depending on particulars.

"transcoders" will not change the signal in any way that adds lag, will just rearrange the sync and the color channels a bit. Anything that has a warning about how your equipment needs to support the resolution, or it won't work with different resolutions etc is probably a pure transcoder and good. Anything that allows you to turn one input resolution into different resolutions, or different input resolutions into one output resolution almost certainly includes a laggy scaler.

That said, you're emulating anyways so you can't get rid of lag completely.

>> No.3594170

>>3594165
I have consumer sets and a few pro crts that can input ypbpr. My goal was to use my old radeon card to my component capable CRTs. Since the gpu only has dvi/vga or tv output (which only does 480i)

You confirmed what I thought. I will need active adapters like that audio authority one, huh?

>> No.3594171

>>3594169
Isn't emulation delay down to under a single milisecond for most emulators? But all of those adapters could add 1-20+ ms of delay?

>> No.3594172

>>3594170
https://www.amazon.com/Sewell-Direct-SW-22050-PC-Converter/dp/B002PXFJ2O

something like that

>> No.3594837

>>3591051
>okay
runs 2 games


..ok

>> No.3595137
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3595137

I got myself a raspberry pi 3 and uploaded the retropie software onto it which comes packed with almost all the classic console emulators and MAME for arcade classics. All you have to do is add the games to the pi via a flash drive. I built a board and bought some buttons and joysticks and switchboards off of amazon and fashioned them into the board. I mounted it on hinges under a coffee table and plugged everything in. Its not total finished but it works and looks great. Fun little project and The raspberry pi runs smooth and was super easy to get started. Would definitely recommend
>pic related

>> No.3595184

>>3595137
Is that a Gameboy in a ziplock bag on your shelf, anon?

>> No.3595282

No. The frontends for it are all garbage and missing out on basic features you would think would be obvious.

Raspberry Pi is the most sophisticated one but requires the most work to configure shit properly.

>> No.3595663

>>3595184

global rule 2

>> No.3595682

>>3595663
I'm more confused at the fact that it seems to be in some sort of fucking bag than wondering if that is or is not a goddamn Gameboy, ass bag.

>> No.3595704

>>3595682

That's the original case that came with the Gameboy. Your GBA and DS Lite didn't come with one.

>> No.3595829

>>3575767
the pi 1 is complete garbage and you might as well not have one

like, other than my Pi 2, I also have a Pi Zero, which is clocked faster and benches better than any of the original Pi units in every regard
and it's still a ridiculously weak machine and there's no reason to attempt emulation on it

>>3587241
it's days later but:

British keyboard is default because it's a machine that's designed and built in the UK. It is a very British machine.
the Pi is slightly retarded with HDMI and turns sound hardware off sometimes, many TVs do a mode switch when this happens, causing screen blanking (there's a way to fix this, I can't remember)
also, you might need to fiddle with config.txt as well anyway -- a lot of the Pi's default settings are entirely because most USB power supplies are shit, so you might need to fuck with the hdmi boost for your TV

don't have a Pi 3 so I dunno how good it is with wifi, but I'd assume it shouldn't be more complicated than letting your phone on the wifi is

>> No.3595868

>>3595184
No. It's not a ziplock. It's a clear plastic case for the DMG and some games.
Some of the age appropriate /vr/tards know what it is.
>pic related

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>>3595868
Forgot pic

>> No.3595873

>>3595869
Crazy shit.

My earliest gameboy was a purple GBC, and I'm pretty sure that shit just came in a box.

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>>3595829
>the pi 1 is complete garbage
>there's no reason to attempt emulation on it

Hey, I feel like it! I got a tiny TV that's not particularly good for much else.

Better SBCs still won't give me S-video. Unless they release another new cubieboard opposite the X15 but still with a stronger CPU, or something else new.

>> No.3595970

>>3595184
>>3595682

PIL Gameboys were sold in that case; it's a hard plastic shell with space for a few games. I imagine the grey ones were sold that way for a time as well.

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Arrgh, all the confusion about how to set a Pi up! Even distro choice is so easy to get wrong, of course it doesn't help that certain highly natural choices, like Vector for Pi-1, are impossible.

I tried arch, and that just boots up into an empty console. Shit, intimidating! Probably doesn't even have many packages.

>>3594837
Hah, Pi N64 emulation BTFO by source ports OR by remakes!

>> No.3596331

>>3595704
not that anon, but I had a Game Gear back then
when I finally got a Game Boy, it was a GBC in like '99 or so

>>3596078
arch has a ridiculously large collection of packages in the AUR
arch is also ridiculously autistic to set up, at least on a standard PC (in particular, it doesn't have an installer, you manually follow instructions and configure shit)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/installation_guide

the only really good thing to come out of arch is the rather nice wiki, which I've consulted quite a bit when fixing shit that goes wrong in other distros

>> No.3596943

>>3570050
I don't think so.

Last time I researched SBCs, they were sorely lacking for nice looking N64 emulation (and what's the fucking point of emulating if I can't get a nicer picture out of it?).

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>>3590038
>>3595829
So what if the Pi-1 is a bit more performance limited?

The only reason I wanted to set one up for games is to use an old NES controller through the GPIO pins! There's not too many 2 button games that are all that hardware heavy, maybe some newer arcade roms, but it's older arcade titles that I haven't yet tried out anyway.