/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[10-17] Anon mod release: SSK9999.wad (demo) >>3566930
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=00930748246120025541

[10-16] ZScript to replace DECORATE at some future point
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=946680#p946680

[10-15] Zip of Duke3D files needed for EDuke32 plus addons >>3562192
https://mega.nz/#!PMNmSa4Z!Wf02HdeRo2FPLBrwMrLzukrNxcom0IMLs-2e8bdaoAs

[10-15] PortaDOOM alpha 1 >>3561827
https://mega.nz/#!jtphlA4b!WoCJ1hUuZJi9ZZ17D7UJ1XJ8-D7X65Fk40pnp69-f8Y

[10-14] Johnnydoom (aka BDJ) updated to v20b
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=47229

[10-13] Spooky fonts from Pinball Of The Dead >>3557997 >>3558021
https://mega.nz/#!J4UyAY6I!2xa3LhzgpXN73iUbsD2onOhq0gyaoxCfORB1XAj1Ghc
https://mega.nz/#!Q4NV2TBD!hJcuIxRJYEK7yHAG9vqW0GermpKsAGsTwx3ilp2HP2g

[10-13] DUMP 3 released >>3556983
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sc9seej72ikajky/DUMP-3.pk3?dl=1

[10-12] Trailblazer v1.4 released
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=47494
https://www.mediafire.com/?f9qegp1j4749wi6

[10-12] Samsara v0.3666 Released
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=945777#p945777

[10-11] Anon map release: ASSREAL (2 maps - updated) >>3554464
https://mega.nz/#!chxQ3JzK!pkyXmRCgBHhC5rxfqw8GipPlEE7lOHbtsAVsfwUCi3g

[10-11] Anon map release: spacedadstation (updated) >>3554356
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5frggjl87fobthh/spacedadstation.wad?dl=1

[10-09] Anon map release: Unfinished three maps pasted together >>3550578
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=29134100888320212439

[10-09] If you wanted the swastika back in E1M4... >>3549912
https://www.mediafire.com/?v1ae44yqfgybvyq

[10-08] New LCA update.
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=101493#p101493

[10-08] Anon map release: Shotgun 20 chaingunners >>3548714
http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=00326809611453895724

[10-08] Brutalv20 patch for GZDoom 2.2
http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/brutalv20bpk3bloodtxt-patch-gzdoom-22

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>>3567826
THANK YOU FAGGOT

Hey dudes, I'm almost done I think with my doom map, I just dont know what to do past this part (pic related)

I want it to curve back around to the red room (after the large room with the switch in the top right opens a gate, unlocking the dead end beneath it) but I dont have any ideas for what to fit into that spot

here's the map DL link, tell me what you think I should do

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yhvaqjpmr3s8jtn/spacedadstation.wad?dl=0

>>3568928
The part with the toxic sewers needs some health items placed in strategic areas.

>>3568972
most of them are secrets

>>3568973
It's quite frustrating to take damage both from the enviroment and the enemies while searching for secret health.

>>3568976
all the secrets have different wall textures, you just have to keep a sharp eye out for em

I might put a few kits around tho

>>3568158
>>3568161
>MENUDEF
I've been wondering, are MENUDEFs from separate mods completely incompatible with each other?

>>3568998
Yes.

>>3568813
wow well it seems like today is the day for finally conquering the most intractable Switcheroom maps

>>3569001
Fuck.

>>3569025

I should mention that they're incompatible in the sense that a mod that changes existing menus will overwrite changes made to those same menus in another mod.

If you create a button that sends you to a menu from another mod like how LegenDoom and Colourful Hell do, it'll work and send you to those menus as long as both mods are loaded. So that's one method of compatibility.

Requesting civilian sprites with the same proportions and style as the zombiemen in Doom.

>>3569056
What about mods that do something like add an extra section to the start/end of the "customize controls" menu? Are they actually entire replacements of the menu instead of a modular bit added onto it?

>>3568989 (me)
>>3569000
Well I mean he wrote it as if the sprite sheets were made of model rips from the game, rather than rips of the sprites themselves.

>>3569071

I'm pretty sure that would work. Mods add control sections with KEYCONF and addkeysection, and I know from experience that KEYCONFs don't override each other.

That is, assuming it only adds a section and doesn't change one. I have no idea if it'd be compatible then.

>>3569083
So basically MENUDEF isn't modular at all, yet the devs consider KEYCONF deprecated. *slow clap*

>>3569059
Did anyone ever rip the civilians out of Carmageddon?

Plenty of innocent folks in that game, not sure how many rotations you could expect though

Joel's dying.

Any vanilla mapsets like Suspended in Dusk and BTSX that manage to have high quality visuals that are not normally expected of the vanilla engine?

>>3569156
[citation needed]

>>3569178
>2 weeks without streaming
>comes out and says he's been in agony and hopes the antibiotics will help him
rip grandad meme master.

>>3569059
Strife is the only thing that comes into mind.
You will require some mad frankenspriten skills to make them not look like medieval folk.

>>3569179
so no source

gotcha

>>3569174
hellbound
bloodstain
equinox
epic1/2 (not sure if boom features count)
no rest for the living imo

>>3569230
I'm looking for vanilla engine compatible. that is, maps that are within the original engine limitations. None of what you listed fits the bill, I'm afraid.

>>3568909
I know this isn't the right place, but there's no Doom general and this question doesn't deserve its own thread: in Doom 2016 can I throw a grenade into a cacodemon's open mouth?

Just wondering

I like playing halloween-style games around Halloween

I never got around to playing Blood, should I do that now or wait and play something else?

>>3569250
Do it now.

>>3569251
Looks like Steam version uses dosbox

What's the ideal way of playing Blood?

Anyone here who played Urania?
The maps are so long and dickish with pistol start/no saves, I'm only at map 08 and I have something like 4 to 5 hours already.

>>3569259
There is no modern Windows / source port of Blood, unfortunately, due to some legal issues with who owns the copyright to the software and who owns the rights to the title.

You have to play it in Dosbox. For Blood especially - since it's a tad more difficult than usual - Bmouse is recommended, a driver that works in dosbox to fix up mouselook issues. Other than that you should be fine. Keep in mind Blood can actually be taxing to a toaster, but any decent processor / graphics card combo should work.

Don't give your money to anybody to get Blood, because whoever you give it to isn't going to be the developers. Take it with a bottle of rum.

>>3569265
Already had Blood because I'm an idiot who buys games where the money probably goes into a black hole (i also think it was in a bundle)

Thanks for the bmouse advice


Just realized this is monolith, I just finished Condemned. I'm assuming this game is way better and completely different

Still no package to play the new content from Duke Nukem: World Tour in EDuke?

>>3569059
there should be a few in duke nukem forever 2013

>>3569279
from what i heard you can load it but some stuff is missing

>>3569238
no

>>3569279
It's been, what, three days?

>>3569291
This. You gotta give the rippers some time to get everything working right.

>>3568909
But that's not Doom.

>>3569314
>Retro FPS thread

Can't let Doom have all the OP picture fun.

>>3568909

>>3569291
>>3569309
It's been a week. No Rest for the Living was available on PC the day before it was released on Xbox Live in 2010.

>>3569334

NRftL didn't have custom textures, a new enemy, new decorations, new music, new voiceovers and DOOM maps are less fiddly than Duke Nukem 3D maps from my understanding.

I don't think they can really be compared.

>>3569334
yeah, but it's a compilation of old maps available on idgames, no?

>>3569237
yeah like i said i wasn't sure if boom compatibility counted as vanilla or not since the differences are so minimal

i figured no rest for the living was vanilla

>>3569334
maybe people don't give that much a shit about duke anymore, I know I dont

>>3569342

From my understanding, the nerve.wad levels were all made specifically for the 360 port.

You might be thinking of Maximum DOOM, which was a collection of 3,000~ maps downloaded off the Internet.

>>3569342
If only there was some way to find the answer to your question yourself and not look like an idiot.

>>3569285
Those would be in Duke Nukem's style though, I need sprites that have the same proportions as Doomguy or the shotgunguy, minus the guns.

>>3569289
Thanks familia.

this looks like ass

>>3569360
hmm, R667 should has a few scientists, other than that (and strife) i don't really see what you could use...
maybe marathon? maybe some bootleg games?

>Plutonia map 15
chaingunners everywhere with hidden viles behind them reviving them eternally, tight corridors with revenants, viles and hell knights spawning behind and in front of you, blocking your movement, every teleporter brings you to the middle of the intersection where said reviving chaingunner army is and zero places to hide other than the start of the map, which is far away from the action.

beautiful.

>>3569389
Be sure to visit the secret map!

>>3569393
Both of them

>>3569389
There's an idea. Archviles as a support and not a peekaboo bitch.

>Someone made the daggerfall skeletons and put them up on Realm667

welp, they're going in the map

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhgUrI94ZMw&feature=youtu.be

>>3569445
tom, what the fuck size are your eyes

>>3569470
you can't even see my eyes in that picture, I'm looking down at the gamelan instrument I'm playing

I keep seeing mention of JohnnyDoom.

Is it good?

How does it compare to Project Brutality?

>>3569445
>That stock monster screech

>>3569445
Good to see you still making stuff!

>>3569593
haven't you played daggerfall anon?

there are a few sounds used in daggerfall that are identical to doom - they must have used the same stock sounds library.
Notably the sergeant see sound.
There's also a dead ringer for the ogre see sound in quake

>>3569628
>haven't you played daggerfall anon?
No I have not. It's still a stock monster sound.

>>3569636
you should play it - dungeons that you can literally get lost in

get
http://theelderscrolls.wiwiland.net/Fichiers/DaggerfallSetup.exe
if you want to check it out. remap mouse to mouselook, click and DRAG to attack, not just click.

Doom uses a lot of stock sounds too yaknow. like I said some are identical to daggerfall - must all from the same source

>>3569645
Oh we do own it here, I've just never played it, thanks for the link though.

I just found the sound itself funny, that's all. Sorry if I offended.

>>3569261
Where can I download that HUD? It looks pretty slick.

>BloodCM is a thing
Good god Blood is playable and good god do I love dynamite

>>3569651
Daggerfall tends to either be a cunt to get running in dosbox or be glitchy without the patches / fixes. but that setup exe solves all that and just runs, no fuss.

I had never heard that skeleton scream before, thought it was original to dagerfall, or maybe arena. I should have guessed it was stock though, considering the other sounds identical to doom and quake.
When I first heard it I was like "COOL! SCREAMING SKELETONS!" having a skeleton just clinking or raspy breathing at you is nowhere near as terrifying as a full blown scream... especially considering they have no lungs...

>>3569724
CM isn't a very good port though.

>>3569768
But mouse look updates on both axis at the same time which is pretty much all thats stopping me from playing the steam copy.

>>3569589
ITS FUCKIN SWEET MAN play it

(poster has vested interest in you doing so)

play it with this--no rest for the living with hans zimmer tier theatrical music

https://www.dropbox.com/s/t9k7vpeqenzqbli/nerveJ.wad?dl=0

>>3569771
Just use bmouse.exe nigger works for all build engine games

>>3569779
OK FINE I WILL lol

Also I just came back from getting groceries and what do ya know, a new version was uploaded. That timing, man.

Thanks for the music too, appreciate it.

>>3569804
No prob dude! Hope you enjoy!

guys i'm too dumb. How do I make see through railings in gzdoom? Plz halp

>>3569827
you mean you want railing sidedefs you can shoot through? just check impassable

>>3569343
no rest for the living's maps are limit removing maps.

Blood sourceport when?

>>3569839

Never.

>>3569835
I want railings for my walkway but the texture keeps sticking to the ceiling :\

>>3569839
CMBlood :o)

>>3569846

I find calling BloodCM a "source port" to be a stretch, as it uses none of the original code.

>>3569845
select texture in visual mode
press L

>>3569902
lower unpegged!! Thank you!

http://sometimes-interesting.com/2013/02/18/buckner-building-the-city-under-one-roof/

Man could this be interesting to make for Doom

>>3569925
i could see it being made for a horror based mod, maybe something like unloved

>>3569929
Yeah, poking around in the dark with a light or lantern, the dripping water and harsh winds echoing through the halls, fighting encounters are few but dangerous.

Post a screenshot from your last session!

I know she's a white enemy, but holy fuck this bitch is TOUGH

>>3569949
Blasting my way through DUMP 3. Been playing for two days, but have only completed half of the maps so far. Its really good.

Is making an effect like the flashlight in Unreal doable in GZDoom? It applies light to surfaces facing away from it, instead of leaving them black like the flare in the top half of the image.

>>3569949
i like johnnydoom a lot, although that's probably because i love the grenades

>>3569967
have you completed hitler's prison, which i think is map 27? i want to know if it's just me but i crash to desktop when i try going in

>>3569949
>Post a screenshot from your last session!
I'm sorry, I'm unable to tell past-me to take a screenshot.

>>3569983
So can you call him a faggot instead?

>>3569981
Yeah, as a matter of fact I did complete it. I encountered no problems with it.

One wierd thing was that since it adds hitler and an SS officer behind a glass wall (that I can shoot through, but they cant do anything to me), for some reason on the Russian Overkill's title screen, it replaces a random powerup to appear as hitler. But other than that bug(?), it worked fine.

Perfect

>>3570009
>Monsters spinning
>Screen distorsions
>Bouncy Castle level

What have you DONE?!

>>3569989
Sure thing buddy.

>>3570009
I'm vomiting internally

>>3570009
>TheGrandVomitorium.webm

>>3569975
it is a sad few minutes when your explosives run out

but then again; assault rifle + explosive headshots can also do in a pinch

>>3569967
did you play that small map with the two cyberdemons yet?

>>3570040
>did you play that small map with the two cyberdemons yet?

Not sure, but I don't think so. Is it on the left side of the cathedral hub?

Did the doom community evolve the definition of Vanilla or something? My understanding was always that it meant the original unmodified dos executable, and its bugs and limitations. But I see more people nowadays use the word to refer to the default gameplay instead.

>>3570049
Depends on the context.

>>3570052
Yeah but like, 10 years ago, it was pretty much 100% always used to refer to the dos executable. Where as I've noticed an increase in other uses of the word in the past 5 or so years, especially on zdoom forums and 4chan.

>>3570054
Probably because knowledge of gameplay mods became a lot more widespread when Brutal Doom became hip and cool.

>>3570049
Vanilla just means normal Doom play, not shit like Brutal Doom/Pillowblaster mods.

what's the /vr/ approved way of playing Hexen?

>>3570009

FOR WHAT PURPOSE

>>3570085
Playing it through ZDoom? I like using Hexercise as well.

>>3570009
>paper sprites
Cacodemons are round, fucktard.

>>3570085
Not playing it at all.

>>3570054
>especially on zdoom forums and 4chan
you answered your own question. amongst players for whom doom = zdoom, vanilla means no gameplay mods.

>>3570064
>Vanilla just means normal Doom play, not shit like Brutal Doom/Pillowblaster mods.
I know people have been using this definition in recent years. My point was that back in the day, vanilla was consistently used only to refer to the original dos engine. This is why terms like "vanilla compatible" are a thing, and why a windows source port that aims to be accurate to the dos engine is called Chocolate Doom.

>>3570085
Any ZDoom derivative will do. I mean, in features the sourceport is probably more Hexen than Doom.

But golly, Hexen itself is not for everyone.

>>3570087
>>3570094
>>3570101
I just remember being astonished and puzzled by its presentation and world as a kid, will check it out again soon in order to get past the first few levels.

>>3570096
Zdoom has been around for nearly 20 years. This other definition for vanilla wasnt around much more than 5 years ago. >>3570058 did answer my question, though.

>>3570098
Thats probably because the original "true" vanilla dos experience isn't the convenient anymore, nor just doesn't even work on the newer operating systems (requiring emulators). That wasn't the situation back in 10 years, so its no surprise that the original dos version isn't even worth considering anymore.

>>3570093
Who cares

>>3570107
>Zdoom has been around for nearly 20 years.
but it hasn't been so dominant amongst such a large subset of players that using other engines gets you sneered at.

>>3570113
Vanilla will always be relevant as long as people still mod for it. And people still do.

So, guys I asked a question last thread but it seems to have gone unnoticed.

I was wondering if there was some kind of decorate code to make monsters keep attacking the player even after he died. It's not that important, just something I want to do for flavor.

>>3569724
BloodCM kinda sucks.

>>3570113
People don't bother with the actual original .exe anymore, for the reasons stated. But I don't think the original definition for vanilla is going to go away anytime soon. There are still maps that get made with the original engine limitations, thanks to Chocolate Doom, one of the most popular source ports, continuing that legacy. Vanilla just simply has multiple definitions in the community now.

Plutonia map 32 is so easy compared to most of its other maps, because there's tons of hiding spots and aren't being gangraped from every angle like say, map 14.

>>3570121
when you die, your actor loses the SHOOTABLE flag. your killer detects this and proceeds to find new targets or go back to sleep. so i suggest to arrange for your corpse to regain the SHOOTABLE flag.

disclaimer: i have not checked zdoom code to see if it works the same way as the engines i am used to. zdoom is too complicated for a casual reading.

>>3570157
Was this in reply to someone?

>>3570009
...BADTRIP?

>>3570157
Plutonia MAP14 isn't that hard

Hey, does anyone have a link to the latest compiled build of DoomRPG? I can't find it anywhere.

>>3570157
>>3570191
>map 14

I always felt that map should've used doom's e2m6 midi, instead of the e2m8 midi.

>Playing DUMP 3
>Level exit has an automap in it
>"wtf, everythings already cleared out, why is this here?"
>Turn it on
>Pic related

Clever girl.

>>3570212
holy shit

>>3570042
i don't know, i use the console
it's map44 IIRC

>>3569607
Spritenoob finally returns to /vr/?

>>3570009
I don't know what you've done, but it looks incredible.

>>3569975
Awesome to hear dude!! Go in JD options and turn on map tallies and ammo reserves (the two at the top). That's where your jpoints gauge is so you'll know when it's time to shift into

>MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE

>>3570040
You get +1 grenade along with whatever bonus it is every time you do a fatality too. If you need some more and can't find any on the ground, execute some fools

>>3570212
there's something like that in the JPCP too

>>3570256
Doom Ultimate too, with the Hand level in one the episodes.

>>3570270
Cleimos 2 map 17 - Sole Survivor

What is it about doom monster AI that makes them move diagonally so much? Is it intentional?

>>3570326

They're actually moving in standard compass directions, it's just every doom map is actually aligned diagonally.

>>3570212
How well does the map actually play

>>3570338
Thanks for the cringe.

>>3570342
No worries, friend.

>>3570338
>sweet, a dollar
the delivery on that is perfect.

So is this good, anybody played it yet?
I saw several sites announcing this like it was a big thing or something

>>3570359
suddenly I'm having flashbacks of that one 'GUY UNIMPRESSED WITH CLASSIC DOOM MAPS, MAKES OWN LEVELS 20 YEARS LATER' article from that one what's-it's-name journal website.

>>3570359
I wonder if this means Vela Pax will be getting articles once thats finally finished.

>>3570342
You have to go back.

>>3570359
Never heard of it

>>3570359
whats with the articles on the doom community from mainstream gaming websites lately? was D44M that popular that people decided to check out the older doom games?

>>3570423
Yes.

>>3570423
nah
brutal doom was

>>3570179

Hmmm thanks, I'll have to check this out.

>>3570359
Here is the link

http://www.moddb.com/downloads/foursite-4-in-1-map

>>3570058
*insert unpopular opinion puffin here* Brutal Doom is good. It's accessible and fits closer to what iD would have done if the technology where available at the time (except glory kills, that's stupid). I just can't recommend JohnnyDoom because it's so incomprehensible to a Doom outsider. :/

you know the drill

>>3570460
>>3570359
I'm playing it now. It's definitely interesting and fuckhuge.

>>3570475
no I don't.

>>3569182
https://twitter.com/joel_vinesauce

use your brain dipshit, where do you think he's going to blog about his problems online? twitter.

I am stuck at doom 1 eposide 4 level 2 impossible as i can not jump to other ledge

>>3570496
did you try running

>>3570475
as far as i know, only reelism has one

Anyone want to play some Metroid Dreadnought with me? The server name on Doomseeker is "[TSPG] Painkiller: METROID DEATHMATCH"

>>3570469
If you've got any questions or there's anything you don't understand I'd be happy to explain! You can turn fatalities off entirely if you want

>>3570469
>fits closer to what iD would have done if the technology where available at the time
then I guess we should be glad they didn't have that technology huh.

>>3570508
I'd be more willing to play some vanilla desu
tfw no friends that wanna play doom with me

>>3569663
WOSHUD.pk3

>>3570359
>I saw several sites announcing this like it was a big thing or something
it means the guy is a self-promoting dipshit who spammed announcements about his map in enough places / at enough people that someone bit

>>3570326
>What is it about doom monster AI that makes them move diagonally so much? Is it intentional?
doom monster decide to move any of the 8 cardinal/ordinal directions without any real distinction between them so you're just imagining it

>>3570359
Was it his first level?

>>3570528
Actually my concerns are for others, not for me -- I can totally work everything out, but from the perspective of someone who has either never played doom, or only vanilla, JD is not as accessible as BD. For example, the list of difficulties is a complete WTF!? moment. BD is not perfect, but I like that it adds detail without adding too much complexity.

>>3570359
the automap is insane

>>3570594
wow, I was expecting 4 digit monsters for this map, but the map itself is something else

>>3570469
>*insert unpopular opinion puffin here*
stopped reading there, desu

>>3570594
is it bigger than Deus Vult?

>>3570361

I remember that article. That was surreal.

>>3570582
Hahahaha dude up until now I had not considered how that might look to someone who is firing up zdoom for the first time. Geez. Maybe I should add a text box beneath it all saying what the percents mean? I've been playing doom for so long that it's more or less impossible for me to think like a not doom person

>>3570508
ew, no thanks.

>>3570460
wait.... this is VANILLA!?? That's... insane.
I'm making a Vanilla playlist in PortaDOOM to bring together all the chocolate-doom playable content for the purists.

>>3570671
Just downloaded it checked out the idtext; it is limit-removing, so no vanilla :( But still, impressive map. I wonder what is the biggest thing made for pure vanilla.

>>3569261
what mod is that?

>>3570687
looks like smoothdoom with >>3570548

>>3570680
a couple of the maps in btsx_e2 are very very close to the blockmap limit

And they don't know what the "Coz" is ALL ABOUT, YA SEE?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at5SI2_3Ocw

>>3570761
can we please keep this thread clean from embarassingly unfunny LPer cancer.

>>3570423
Doom's somewhat relevant still. I guess the journos are thinking an expansion or DLC's gonna happen for D4 since it sold decently.

>>3569967
What wad/pk3 is this revolver from

>>3570802

Looks like Russian Overkill.

>>3570423
I think its cause for the most part we flew under the radar since the community is so far removed from all the major gaiming hubs like nexus etc.

Ever since brutal doom the mainstream gaming "journalism" seems to have realized there is a big modding scene still alive for a game thats 20+ years old, makes for a good story. Doom 16' also helped since their audience now knows again what doom is.

>>3570772
just report and filter

Out of all the things that could potentially bother me in Hideous Destructor, the biggest piss-off is how 95% of zombiemen's guns have the ammo evaporate out of them as soon as they die.

>>3570835
Uh, you do realise you can pick up the guns and strip them,right?

>>3570831
sadly it is not against the rules :(

>>3570836
You can't use stripped UAC rifle ammo in your own rifle.

Only unsealed magazines can be used, they have a red top to it.

>>3570835
I don't really mind it so much once I understood that I can't strip the ammo, it just makes me use the top tier shotguns more.

>>3568909
Yo, can you replace "sm_v03" in "OUR WADS" to just be Tabula Rasa?

sm_v03 is incorporated in Tabula Rasa

Which wad should I play?

>>3570876
iogw.wad.

>>3570851
Yes you can, you will use jailbroken ones when you run out of fresh mags, but they will not be completely full and will fuck up the ammo counter.

>>3570009
wad name?

>>3570885
Really?

Wow, did not realize it. I just stopped at 0.

>>3569250
Curious if anyone has some recommended wads that fit this bill. Bonus points if Co-opable.

>>3570650
w e l l then

>>3570905
Unloved
Happy Time Circus 2
Unhinged

>>3570858
Perhaps you could contact "Faqqer" (that's Marrub isn't it?)

>>3570910
> forcing this meme shit again
don't respond to the troll, just report

>>3570920
what.

>>3570921
it's the same mega man shitposter, notice the linebreaks. he failed to force his shitty 8bit dm into op pic and now tries to compensate by forcing stupid meme wads nobody likes

>>3570938
I have no idea what you're talking about.

>>3570938
Well to be fair, there was a bit of hype to be drummed up for MM8BDM 5.

>>3570938
>notice the linebreaks
the ones that most posts on this site have when listing things, yes.

>meme wads

>>3570938
You
are
an
OK anon because you post in /doom/

why do you play shitty 8 bit video games like doom when quake live exists anons? its like quake 3 but modernized for computers and free.

dont you get tired of looking at ugly pixels?

>>3570009
Mockaward's in the bag!

>>3570942
> MM8BDM 5
What's that? I played mm8bdm recently a bit, but what does 5 stands for?

>>3570009
Is this original wad or have you done something? Either way I want a download link for it NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!~~

>>3570957
Pretty sure he means version. It took forever to come out.

>>3570951

>>3570960
So that's just what everybody plays now?

>>3570959

I don't know what the map is, but it looks like he combined the Wobbly shader with Megabounce and ROOL.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=53157
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=48924
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=53107

>>3570212
weebs get OUT of MY doom

>>3570986

>>3571000
stop responding you fucking retard

>>3570986
>he doesn't know that anime & doom was a thing time immemorial

>>3571001
don't tell me what to do.

you're not my mom.

>>3571023

How do you know that? Have you confirmed that your mom doesn't browse 4chan?

Working on Spellcross Oblige V1.01, introducing three new monsters to the pack, alongside balancing changes, general fixes and Oblige Random settings updated. Nothing big from the new Monsters, but some expansion to the randomness, and soon all updates will be available for Spellcross Arena (as seen testing in the screenshot)

>>3570959
>>3570974
it's a map from DUMP 3 actually

>>3571136
speaking of DUMP 3 I owe the maker of Caco-Lover five across-the-eyes

I know D44M isn't particularly welcome here, but I figured I'd let you guys know anyways since it's technically related to the original DOOM assets.
Basically, Snapmap got an update today that added assets from DOOM 1 and 2 in their original form. So theoretically, you could redo entire levels like Id did with the collectables in D44M.

That is all. pls no bully

>>3570889
>>3570959
It's MAP11 of DUMP3, with the wobbly shader:
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=53157
and ROOL:
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=53107

Trying to get back into Doom; Reelism on GZDoom 2.2.0 runs lags like shit even before anything spawns, with dynamic lights off and no textures. Is my computer just too potato?

I admit that I hate Knee Deep in Z-Doom's level design, but goddammit I wish I could mix other mods with it more.

>>3570594
Art.

This is neat

>>3571291
Whats the mod for fireball effects

>>3571291
[Darude - Sandstorm blares]

>>3571298
It's one of the chainsaw(?) replacements from DUMP 3
>>3571305
Noice

>>3571309
The weapons from DUMP3 were separate, right? Do they just replace other weapons at random?

>>3571309
No, imp fireball.

>>3571332
From what I can tell, guns that replace shotguns will be randomly given to you when you pick up a shotgun, and so on. I could be wrong though.

Speaking of shotguns, that pump action has some sexy animations

bzzt

>>3571336
Oh, that's just Zandronum using OpenGL renderer as far I can tell, I haven't modified it.

>>3571346
>black rasberry looks away from his friend puking

>>3571352

>>3568928
add a teleport to a secret area in that blank space

>>3571358
Shit, that looked much better when I previewed it. Looks like its time to adjust the bitrate

i set the friction to 0 and movement is fine now
except that if you fall off any sort of heighted elevation you slowly fall down at like 0.000001 velocity
how do you fix this?

>>3571151
given how powerful snapmap is, the only original map you could do is probably dead simple

>>3571346
yes! yes!

>>3571151
The modules are probably only things from Episode 1 of Doom, especially given how limited the module selection grouping is. I can't see yet since i'm downloading at like 350kbs.

But on the Classic Doom map template, they have it set up to have recreations of the oldschool tally and map screens.

Hey guy's I'm trying to make holding tanks for demons in my level (kinda like they had in doom 3) and I want to use the see thru window texture that commonly houses chaingunners outside as the door. How do I make the texture see thru, yet not be able to shoot thru it or alert the monster inside?

>>3571473
rather than explain I made an example wad so just open that up in an editor and see how it's done.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4mwJRa7e5VpNVhndHlFVUEtZkU/view?usp=sharing

>>3571442
The gluon gun SFX is kinda mean on the ears but it's not as bad as the Plasma-infused RL in that regard

>>3571529
Holy shit you are a HERO.

Will post pic when I get it right!

>>3568909

Shame Brutal Hexen didnt got finished. I just got to the end of Hexen 2, and fuck I really really miss the 90s dark gothic fantasy looks, more in lone with sword and sorcery than boring GOT like modern fantasy.


I guess Hexen 1 worth it? Finished the first map and it kinda meh.

>>3571545

Sword and sorcery with gothic shit will forever be my jam. I hate this gritty realistic take on fantasy that's been trending for a few years

>>3571549

D&D has been getting better art but yeah I hear you, blame millennials I dont know.
Stuff like Dragon Age looks dirty, and GOT and Witcher looks tame, even if Witcher is the better looking, armors and stuff looks decent.

Maybe mainstream ruined the feel a bit, but at least LoTR had a pretty nice style.

I guess From games have the best take on classic fantasy but even so even From cant replicate the older look.

>>3571532
Did you try the improved sounds?

>>3570338
Very enjoyable. It all looks like natural caves, cliffs and a canyon. Meanwhile the progression works smoothly as a straight-forward action map.

The ingenious part is that the head (where the exit is), happens to be both the last place you uncover and also serves as a large open arena. There was absolutely nothing that clued me it was an anime girl right up until the very end. If the automap wasn't there, I would never had known.

>>3571556
Wildweasel's mod? Not really, how is it?

Do you think that the guy who recorded the Skulltag taunt ever regretted doing it?

>>3571570
he probably can't hear you over theHEHEEEHHEHEEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEEHEHEEEEH

>>3571570
no

>>3571574
Well I do suppose it sounds smug as shit

>>3571529
I'm struggling like hell to re-create this...

Life is hard.

>>3571529
I don't understand the floor/ceiling height part.

>>3571570
>>3571579

HEH HEEENNNHHHH

I hope you liked the pocket revenant weapon, I had a lot of fun making it

>>3571609
The Tesla weapon is pretty fun as well.

Might run the DUMP3 weapons and maps together. Which maps in particular stand out? Because holy shit that is a really fucking huge and impressive hub going on there.

>>3571529
If the linedefs are impassable I wont be able to release the demons upon the players?

>>3571473
Don't TNT and Plutonia do this?

>>3571692
No see-through anything in vanilla doom.

They did stasis Arch Viles though, in one map. Pretty fun map actually.

>>3571692
>>3571529

Well it took me the better part of the last 3 hours to figure it out but I jury rigged the FUCK out of this chamber. Texture/invisible walls can be triggered up into the structure releasing the the contained demon. Sound/bullet proof. Looks good with the scrolling textures/glow effect inside :]

I bet you guys could pull this off effectively in 30 seconds but holy shit am I relieved I got it working

Somebody give me some pro strats on how to deal with this cacodemon horde on sunlust map20. I know there's a secret that releases a cyberdemon and some revenant + health and ammo but I'm not sure they do any good.

>>3570009
Now it need Cyriak music

>>3571727
Spam rockets to death, there isn't a real good strat like making revs and pinkies whiff their melees and caco swarms are a pain because even if rockets are your best weapon (judging by your hud, the lack of plasma might be a better reason to use the RL), it makes cacos spread cuz explosions

When I try out Rool every enemy is flat as a pancake

What do

>>3571739
Mission success

And of course it's AFTER I manage to beat it I find the useful secret

is there a way to make it so the upper and lower parts of a 3d floor have different wall textures?

>>3571765
stack two 3d floors on top of each other?

>>3571771
you can do that? how?

>>3571776
have two different control sectors with the same tag

>>3571783
ive tried that and it produces really clusterfuck-y results i don't know how to work with. i don't know how that would help with my problem anyway

btw i'm talking about the rooms created above and beneath the 3d floor, not the sides of the floor itself. both sectors are using the wall texture for the top sector and i want a separate one for the bottom one. it's kinda hard to explain

>>3571757
Make spicy impcakes.

>>3571784
never mind just needed to make an extra sector for the wall

>>3571609
you just wait until i can code my voodoo SS doll properly

it's gonna be a shit weapon compared to yours

speaking of DUMP3
worst and best weapons of each slot, go

i want to see how many times my gun is at the bottom of peoples' lists

>>3571830
So what would be a good benchmark to put each weapon through that isn't too short or long? I think I might go full autist and track my hot opinions on a spreadsheet or something.

>>3571823

It better go MEIN LEIBEN when you stab it with a pin.

>>3571834
i was just using the stock zombie painsound but now i'll give it a chance to MEIN LEBEN, also i'll pitch them up

>>3571830
dual mode rifle most best feeling and awesome slot 4

build a wall around the holy water pistol and vote it off the island nobody wants that useless shit

>>3571841

use the other death sounds the Nazis made in wolfenstein for the other grunts, like the AIIIEEE and OHH HOOOUUGGHH

>>3571832
maybe how many shots it takes to kill a caco/hell knight/baron, versus how many shots it takes for a stock doom 2 weapon to do the same

I mean, it won't be perfect because some weapons have piercing or splash or some other features like being unable to hit things past four feet but getting a feel for base damage is a good start.

>>3571860

i really hate to agree with you because the weapon itself is fantastically designed

it's just functionally useless unless you're using it against like 3 monsters at a time

>>3571830
weeb hammer, uzi/shottie, flechettte rifle, remote mines, fusion gun, that thing that fires balls that home in on motherfuckers

>>3571830
laundry-fu is kinda very bad
bfg melee that doesn't do bullshit amounts of damage
yeah, you get bonus jump height and damage resistance, but killing bosses and large groups takes a whole while with it

actually pretty much all the bfg tier weapons suck at being bfgs, except the srs rocket
because atleast that thing kills things dead

>>3571865
>Basing quality on how much damage the weapon does

>>3571860
>build a wall around the holy water pistol and vote it off the island nobody wants that useless shit
i will fight you and your shit waifu

>>3571876
you forgot the SSG tier you dork
or the chaingun
there's two guns with 'flechette' in them, so i don't know which one you mean

>>3571865
I was thinking about more on certain maps completed within a reasonable timeframe.

Can anyone help me find a paticular mod? Its been a long time so I can't remember much of it but the one thing that sticks out in my head was that it had a gun the according to the mod creator just deleted whatever it hit out of the memory, including worldspawn. I remember it did plenty of other out there things but I can't name it offhand.

>>3571883
With the holy water pistol I'm hoping, because with that piece of shit you already fuckin lost

Actually now I'm kind of curious how it would work in deathmatch.

>>3571880
Yeah, there are weapons that do less damage but I just find more useful overall, I mean there's that one plasma thing that fires shit everywhere and destroys things if you're surrounded but if you just want to kill that one fucking cacodemon in your face it's a gigantic waste of ammo.

Or hows about that multihex device, like holy shit I love a bfg tier weapon that does zero damage, and the mines are great fun to dick around with except for when you need to unload damage quickly on a lot of shit, which is like the whole fucking point of the rocket launcher unless you have a BFG already. Like an actual BFG tier weapon and not any of these lousy wannabes.

>>3571917
A bit unrelated, but your post reminded me of a game that has a gun that deleted anything it hit, including the hud and even the exit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHdof27bYow

>Update to latest dev build of ZDoom
>They messed with the hud and console text scaling that's been standard for years
Th-thanks

>>3571992
I dislike that the HUD scaling option also messes with the console scaling.

>>3571447
There are a bunch of "setpiece" modules that are various rooms/areas from the first three levels of E1, along with a heap of modules that are new designs using the old assets and style (with some minor breaks from "accuracy" like 3D floors).

You can also retexture blocking volumes with various Doom 2 textures, to build your own damn level geometry, and there are several large "grid" modules within which to build.

>>3571941
I can't put my finger on it but something about the way the gun works scares the shit out of me

>>3571992
con_scale 1 to restore the old console text scale

>>3572009
I fucking love you

>>3572005
But can the ai navigate custom stuff yet? when i tried they either phased through things or just stood still the second something thats not a module blocks their path

>>3572009
Thank you so much.

>>3571698
>No see-through anything in vanilla doom.
Arachnotrons in TNT map 31.

>>3572063
he meant there's no translucent textures in vanilla doom. transparent but P_CheckSight-blocking walls, yes, but actual translucency such as >>3571529 is a Boom feature that required adding a whole new set of R_DrawColumn functions.

>>3571876
>>3571830
Wait, DUMP 3 has custom weapons? I'm playing it with smooth doom and there are none.

>>3572147

There were two versions of DUMP 3, a map pack, and a weapon pack

>>3572147
It's completely separate.

Speaking of which, I'm trying to play through DUMP3 with the weapons but it seems that I retain them even when entering a new map regardless of menu settings. Wasn't the whole idea to start every map as a pistol start?

>>3571992
Beats the shit Z&'s had for years

Don't mean to be retarded, but if you want to use the DUMP 3 weapons, you have to download the test mod from the Zdoom forums post? They're not included with the full release? I haven't been following this really, so yeah.

>>3570910
Thanks, friend.

>>3571529
>gzdb has a translucent option
>literally a box you click and presto

I feel bad for those who have to go through all this effort for such a small feature.

>>3572005
been watching a couple videos on that and it doesn't seem half bad actually. might try out hand at making another custom map for it sometime today.

>>3572223
I thought it was only UDMF configurations that had the tickbox?

>>3572260
I mean, dude doesn't specify that it has restrictions.

Just saying that it's easy to accomplish if that's the case.

>>3572246
I'm going to get shit on for saying this, but while it can't compare to the tools we're used to, snapmap isn't half bad. It's actually surprisingly complex for something made for consoles.

>>3572268
It used to be a hot steaming pile of shit when it released, that's for sure. they still got a long way to go, but at least it's one step in the right direction. this update is easily the best one yet.

but, and I really do fucking mean it, they need to get out with that retarded 12 enemy on spawned limit. the base game had a lot more than just that, why wouldn't it be feasible? also the limits need to either be removed or expanded a lot while they're at it.

Why is it only the hard wads that people say are full of annoying chaingunners and revenants?

>>3572416
Because when it comes down to it Chaingunners and Revenants are always a threat no matter how they are placed, with the only other enemy that is like this being the Archvile. The rest require smart placement to be dangerous

>>3572416
>where did my health go?

>>3572416
everything else can be strafed around because doom ai is very simple

Why does Nuts.wad lag like hell in GZdoom but runs fine in Prboom+ is gzdoom just really poorly optimised or what?

>>3572432
you serious?

gzdoom runs on opengl by default.

>>3570359
Just finished it and for a huge map it's pretty damn good for the most part. Looks good and plays good. It starts kinda slow, but quickly picks up. Totally worth playing if you're in the mood for a long level.

>>3572420
>>3572429
I'm not asking why people only complain about Chaingunners and Revenants. I'm asking why they always single out the hard wads for using them, but don't bring up easy wads that are just as liberal about them (btsx e1 comes to mind).

Im just interested, because a lot of the time, people pull the "its not hard, its annoying" card, yet only complain about the ones that are considered hard. It makes me think they just want a scapegoat for their frustrations, and don't want to admit that they need to improve.

What are some GOAT obscure retro fps'?

also are there any good Wallenstein source ports?

>>3572434

and it still bends itself when playing nuts.wad compared to prboom+

>>3572442
marathon trilogy

How do I install Blood on a modern PC?

>>3572452
pirate the GoG version

>>3572434
Gzdoom's gl renderer requires more recent hardware compared to PrBoom+, though.

Though even before GZDoom did that renderer update, I'd also lay blame on Zdoom itself for having code thats messy and bloated.

>>3572449
>>3572454
that's my point, it takes more computer juice to handle it compared to software renderer.

>>3572453

Where can I get that? I didn't see it on Blackcats.

>>3572458
piratebay probably

>>3572457
Okay, so I'm on a netbook -- 2.16 Ghz, Intel integrated graphics. PrBoom+ SW gives me 100+ fps, PrBoom+ HW gives me 300+. It's just G/Zdoom being inefficient.

>>3572458
>Blackcats
didn't that just get taken down yesterday

>>3572461

Well that explains why I haven't been able to get on recently. Now I gotta remember my bitgamer password, oh joy.

>>3572467
I can't believe all of these pirate sites are going down one by one, I thought they'd be eternal.

Re-working the HUD. Unfortunately I can't make graphics for shit.

I wish SBARINFO had a function like DrawBar that can be any length, so I could make the HP/FP/ST bar change size based on their stats without a fuckload of extra graphics and If/Else statements.

Also added the foundation for monsters to cure themselves should they find themselves poisoned. Obviously not every monster would, but it's there should I ever want a more advanced enemy to cure their poison status.

Need help.

I wanna get the /vr/ skins but the http://static.best-ever.org/wads/vrskins_v3.3r.wad link does not function. Anybody out there who has the file?

>>3572502
http://allfearthesentinel.net/download?file=vrskins_v3.7.wad

>>3572515
Thank you very much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QemMSEze970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3hVvb-PKLk
DUSK gameplay.

>>3572521
I'm aware it's pre-alpha, but man the gunplay and monster design is flaccid.

>>3572470

You seen Hellboy? It's like that Sammael creature, one falls, and two shall arise

>>3572521
The guns could feel meatier, but I'm happy its going for a more classic approach to level design instead of following the painkiller style.

>>3572521
I am not expecting anything and I'm still disappointed.

>>3572521
desu the game feels more like HL than Quake like they're marketing it, at least from the demo at PAX

>>3572565
I'm not seeing anything remotely similar to HL here.

>>3572532
>>3572559
That's the whole point of the video, to help improve the game.

>>3572521
The game feels more like HL than Quake like they're marketing it, at least from the demo at PAX.

>>3572568
It's the way the game feels when you play it - how enemies behaves, how the gun feels, that sort of stuff

>>3572574
>gunplay closer to half life than quake
thanks but no.

half life is such garbage shit outside of the story progression, and then it's painfully overrated in that regard.

>>3572574
>It's the way the game feels when you play it - how enemies behaves, how the gun feels, that sort of stuff

I'm still not seeing it, but whatever.

>>3572521
It looks better than Wrack. Could still use some work, though.

>>3572441
BTSX isn't that liberal with them.

I think the real reason for it all is they are trying to play the game without savescumming and hard wads have long levels

>>3572609
>BTSX isn't that liberal with them.

Compared to most non-slaughter wads, it kinda is.

>>3572441
IMO, anyone who complains about BTSX E2 for its revenants is lying and didn't play the wad. The real challenge came from its liberal use of Arch-viles. I mean, it even has a level dedicated to them.

>>3572581
AI was much better than anything in Quake 2. Unreal still beats it though.

>>3572153

This would be because we recently discovered that A: Inventory.UNDROPPABLE is not affected by clearinventory stuff, and B: Inventory.UNTOSSABLE is both a thing and supported by Zandronum 3.0.
It should be fixed come the next weapon build, whenever that may be.

>type in quake videos on jewtube
>get cupquake

>>3572521
I like it. Looks like ugly Quake, in a good way.

>>3570242
If I could ever figure out what the hell I'm doing! I actually got distracted by another level I'm working on in Hammer.

If I could just learn how to code, I might actually finish something.

>>3572710
that looks awesome - though it could definitely benefit from some acidic bubbling/splashes and smoke etc

I love your work!

>>3572724
Those would be added particle effects I'd reckon. If I had those l337 decorate skills, I'd probably add more stuff like that.

Hey, does anyone have the Turok Doom ,wad? I'm going to try and rip some sprites from it.

>>3572573
desu I wish he'd do another demo that wasn't just the pre-alpha testbed. The gunplay feels floaty like Quake did, but it's better done than Wrack and the ROTT remake.

That said, I wish more games would use meatier default pistols.

>>3571830
>>3572147
can't really find it, can someone post the link?

>>3572521
Are the weapon models gonna have hands? It just looks weird how the weapons float around infront of you

>>3572521
Definitely the most 90's a "classic styled" modern fps has looked. Getting a mix of Doom, Blood, and Quake here.

>>3572798
Eh, I'm not that bothered by it. Quake 1 didn't have hands besides the axe.

>>3572521
Is there a download for this? I only read that they sent out review keys.

Finished all of Dump 3.

As to be expected of a community pack, it's a mixed bag overall. Some really cool stuff, some really shitty stuff. But the cool maps are REALLY good, and the HUB map thing means if you know what ones are the shitty maps then you can just avoid them. More Zdoom community map packs need to do that, imo.
The final boss battle was fun. More interesting than the usual "circle strafe and win" bosses in most Zdoom maps.

Want to see some kind of Best Of Dump set down the line.

/blog

>>3572895
the sandcastle map is gorgeous, though it runs like shit

Doom running on the Nintendo Switch when

where do i download dump 3 maps + weapons?

>>3572895
>More Zdoom community map packs need to do that, imo.
more zdoom community map packs need to exist in the first place

the only other example i can think of is zpack, which is 90% hot garbage

>>3572223
in boom it's just a line action, not much harder. the real trick is the fake floor right behind it to give it the illusion of being a solid mid texture.

>>3572906
the maps are in the second post in the thread, about the weapons I don't know

>>3572907
Community zdoom mapsets can have the risk of being all over the place in what they offer, due to the possibilities the engine allows. One map may have a dramatically different set of features and gameplay compared to another, which can turn off some players.

>>3571894
oh i meant the flakchette gun, chaingun tier

flechette cannon for SSG tier

hell revealed 2 is a lot nastier than I remember.

it even has inescapable death pits.

>>3572906
>>3572775

http://allfearthesentinel.net/download?file=dump-3-weapons-test0.pk3

>>3572967
I always feel HR2 had its primary balance done on HMP, and then added extra on UV. Cause some maps can seem like theres no breathing space on UV.

>>3572973
last time i got that, i couldn't exchange wep. did they fix that?

>>3573000
the work around was to bind a key to weapon zoom, then hold it down for a couple seconds to drop a weapon. They're still working on the final build of the weapons pack at the moment though.

>>3572983
It's designed around UV, it's made specifically for the toughest Doomers and HMP is for everyone else.

It's all about enemy management and optimized gameplay, takes planning.

>>3573009
I don't think you understood what I meant. I'm more saying it feels like a Ribbiks kind of situation. Where HMP is treated like UV, and then UV is UV+.

>>3573021
I know what you meant.
It's designed around UV, HMP is not treated like UV. It is treated like HMP.

>>3573036
>It's designed around UV, HMP is not treated like UV. It is treated like HMP.

I'm willing to accept that its balanced on UV if a source is provided. But It really does not feel that way, though. HMP is comparable to UV in most HR-like mapsets of the time. Where as UV, some maps have shit terrible pacing, thanks to cramped rooms being overstuffed.

is there a way to make it so the player is forced to look to look at an enemy when it melees you? kinda like how the chainsaw works? there's probably an action function somewhere but i can't find anything

>>3572753
You mean this?
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=28589&hilit=ls...&start=330#p632918

>>3573054
Both Hell Revealed 1 and 2 just have full skill level support but UV was considered standard for players even back then.

Also to add to that the maps were made by speedrunners and top doomers, and you know how purists are.

I can't find any official word on what teh difficulty is, only that HR1 and 2 were both made as ultra hard levels.

>>3573089
UV is still considered standard, and most big name mappers are still speedrunners and top doomers. Doesn't stop Ribbiks from doing the main balance on HMP and then going nuts with extras on UV. So I don't find this argument convincing enough to believe HR2 had its main balance on UV.

>map is about to ruthlessly fuck you in the ass
>mapper makes the game autosave before it happens

thanks for the lube, senpai

>>3573103
Readme doesn't say anything about HMP being what it's designed around. And considering all the running of UV uploaded for HR all evidence supports UV as the standard.

>>3573107
I'm talking specifically about HR2, not HR1. And speedrunners playing on UV does not automatically mean that map had its primary balance done on UV. I mean, theres speedruns on Nightmare aswell, does that mean Nightmare was the primary balance too? You're still not making compelling arguments.

>>3571545
Hexen 1 is better than 2 in every way, so yeah, it's worth it.

Also play the Hexen2 expansion, Portal of Praevus, if you haven't yet. It's so much better than the base game.

>>3572973
thanks

they should really flip the main and alt fires of yholl's shotgun and uzi, it makes more sense in every possible way (name, hands and slot)

>>3573113
>Mapset is made by speedrunners
>Speedrunners play UV as a standard
>Makes maps for HMP..?
I figured it was logical enough to infer, but I dunno.

Like I said I couldn't find any official word for HR1 and HR2 outside of them saying OH SHIT THIS IS A HARD MAPSET on every description I can find for it.

Considering HR2 loves to remind the player that they should tone down the difficulty if they find it too hard in both the text file, and in the help screen, the idea that UV isn't the most balanced for normal play doesn't sound too far fetched to me. But it is still possible that UV is indeed where they balanced it. Nothing is explicitly concrete, really.

>>3573126
this opinion is wrong.

What games should be turned into Doom mods?

>>3573157
fallout 1

>>3573157
SMT strange journey

>>3573157
timesplitters 2 or 3 are prime candidates

>>3573157
God Hand
DMC1 or 3
Vanquish

>escape plan
i don't get it.