/vr/ - Retro Games

I did not.

>>3555618
No, i just died a few times before randomly go up and down and just feel like the shittiest gamer on earth.

Then I discovered Ice Cap, the real beauty of Sonic 3, and forgot about it.

I wasn't a retarded child

I spent hours and hours trying to time the jumps exactly so you could slip through, and one time it dropped me down and I immediately died. I haven't thrown many controllers but that was one of the times

I gave up on it for years and never looked up a guide or anything and didn't beat it until someone told me on here or some other board as an adult that you have to use the directional keys

nobody should try and say that the barrel isn't the worst thing in game design history

>>3555618
No, I could figure out to try every button on the pad in every situation if I got stuck somewhere.

It wasn't especially hard, you could only do so much in that area.

>>3555618
His fucking eyelids

It was bad design but it wasn't hard to figure out
Trying to press every button on your controller and see what works isn't that much of a brainiac conundrum

The thing with this barrel 'o doom is that, although the stage has a few of those barrels scattered around, to introduce a new gameplay mechanic, you can actually get through those sections just by bouncing (when you jump on the barrel, it goes further down). That is, until the game gives you an impassable barrel, and you have to do the up/down stuff.
It would have saved many people's tears if the first barrel was the impassable one, and there was some sort of visual clue (like alternating up/down light signs) to show you what to do.

>>3555831
>Trying to press every button on your controller and see what works isn't that much of a brainiac conundrum

It is if you are a child of the USA.

Eh, when I was kid "press every damn button on the controller until it works" was what I lived by, especially as I played loads of shitty mascot platformers far worse than Sonic. I don't remember the barrel giving me any grief, though I do get it. Up and down are barely used in the game at all, honestly.

Both the level designer and the game's director have apologized for it and called it bad design in retrospect, so it doesn't make me like the game any less or anything.

Sonic 1 > sonic 2 > 3&K
The objective truth

>>3556134
I know this is bait but I still want to fall for it.

>>3555725
Sure

>>3556134

>>3556134

Worst Mario game, including CD-I Mario games/DKC 1 or 2 > 3 best sonic games combined

>>3555618

Why is everyone so eager to brag about what a retard they where as a kid

>actually make it past the barrel by jumping, but don't have enough time left to finish the stage, or maybe I drowned, I don't remember
>because it worked, I figured I wasn't doing it wrong, I just sucked at it

fuck you

>>3556134
Close
Sonic 1 > 3&K >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2

>>3556205
the fish isn't the bait, you fucking retard

>Sonic 3 barrel thread on the front page
>PSX vs. PS1 thread on the front page

Someone make threads about the GBA and Doki Doki Panic.

>>3555816
If the barrel just stayed where it was, I'd probably figure out to press up and down pretty quick. But jumping repeatedly makes it bounce up and down, so it seems like that's how you're supposed to do it, and when you run out of time repeatedly you think that you're just not getting the timing right or that Tails is fucking you up or something.

>>3555618
It gave me a bit of trouble but not 'stuck for days on end' trouble. There's nothing wrong with the level design itself. The fault lies with the people who made the manual, game mechanics should be explained in the manual.

>>3555618
>Friend's help

I didn't have any friends as a kid.

>>3555618
No. It was ONE GUY once who was stuck and then somehow a thousand people read his post and jumped on the bandwagon, they wanted to be a part of something. Maybe one wuss was actually scared by Clanker in Banjo Kazooie, maybe two people saw Toad flipping the bird, but it's not nearly as common as people make it out to be.

>>3556581

Yeah, it also doesn't help that jumping up and down on the barrel actually makes some kind of in-game sense. Pressing up and down to move it is not very intuitive especially when an action taken by Sonic has an effect .

>>3555618
I did, but my friend couldn't help. Then again he wasn't able to come over my house and play with me, but he told me he played it but he couldn't tell me how to get there. It seemed like he forgot. He could have possibly been lying to me.

>>3556478
gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8

>>3555618

yes I fucking sucked

yes I was dense as fuck as a kid

yes I just recently beat this game in the past 2-3 years

fuck you

>>3555757
this happened to me too

>>3555618
I did the first few times I got there but eventually figured it out

>>3555624
Source?

>>3561180
http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Nikki

Here you go.

>>3555618
I honestly don't understand how people actually got stuck on this, i managed to get though it on my first try with a couple of minutes of just messing around with it when i was 7. I struggle to see how people got stuck to the point where they couldn't even get past the fame due to this

>>3561915
It was unknown how to get through. Most of the obstacles were just running through or jumping across something, but this stage and the barrel is just slower and puzzling. A lot of people are not used to this in a Sonic game.

>>3555618
Shame on you I just abused of the bubble shield until it glitched out.

>this fucking barrel

>>3556478

finally someone that understands.

This game is the face of ludo-narrative dissonance and the kind of shit that makes me drop a game out of disgust.

Sega does what Nintendon't, rotting your teenage mind. Everyone with half a brain would just try out random stuff.

>stuck
>on a game where all you have to do is walk to the right

>>3556134
sonic 1 > sonic 3 > the miserable rest > sonic 2

>>3555618
First time I played it when I was like 5, yeah.

>unfair
>bad design
>no visual clue
THERE WERE FREAKING UP AND DOWN ARROWS ON THE BARREL, WHAT DID YOU WANT, THE GAME TO STOP AND PATIENTLY EXPLAIN EVERYTHING TO YOU?

My god, I'll bet watching you kids play old games is infuriating. "HURR THERES NO CUTSCENE TO TELL ME WHAT TO DO, I'M STUCK!"

>>3555618
only time I needed a friend's help was a co-op mission in battlefield 3 because I suck at flying in battlefield

as for actual retro games i had difficulty with the sonic games when I was a kid and my needing help came in the form of my brother getting sonic & knuckles

knuckles really was the best character in the classic sonic games

The fact that the barrel actually moved up and down based on your jumping is what fucked everything up. Had it been limited to only go down or up as much as a single jump would allow, nobody would have gotten stuck. Because jumping seemed like a viable solution, it was unlikely for anyone to try anything else.

The people who didn't get stuck were either very lucky, or so shit at the game and basic physics that they didn't even realise jumping had an effect.

Plus, it's not like up and down just move the barrel. You have to fucking hold them and wait for the barrel to slowly lurch into action. Had it been designed like an elevator where hitting up or down just made it shoot in that direction, it would have been easy to find just by mashing.

>>3563604

What happens when you can no longer walk right though?

>>3555618
Yes, I got stuck. That fucking barrel was the bane of my childhood.

Jumping up and down on it seemed like the way to do it. I had a younger brother and we'd always take turns with one person playing sonic and the other, Tails. If you both worked at it, you could get it pretty high just by jumping. In fact we were able to consistently get Tails through (but never Sonic), so we were sure we were on the right track. We thought we were just too bad at timing the jumps. It didn't even seem out of place for a game to throw a random pixel-perfect jump at you halfway through the game so we didn't even think to try just pressing up and down (something the game doesn't hint at and isn't needed before or after that accursed barrel).

I tried this game for the first time a few years ago (5 or 6). I got stuck then.

>>3565926
>THERE WERE FREAKING UP AND DOWN ARROWS ON THE BARREL
lol what no there weren't

>>3555618
This is why it's okay to button mash sometimes. Just keep trying stuff until something gives.

Got me through more than one old, stupid platformer

>>3555618
I never understood this meme

No, I had a harder time with the special stages. I still stress out on every Sonic special stage. One wrong move, man...

>>3556487
Don't forget the coveted
>Is Dreamcast /vr/?

I had an older brother by 3 1/2 years so most of the time he was able to figure it out and would beat the games first before I could.

No, because when jumping obviously didn't do it in a reasonably fast time, I tried other things.

I was 7.

>>3555618
>timing my jumps pretty good
>getting pretty far
>Tails fucks it up

>timing jumps again
>about to make it
>Time up

>even more barrel bouncing
>getting the farthest I've ever gotten
>get squished between millimeter of open space between barrel and ceiling

The only thing that got me past that barrel was playing as Knuckles and skipping it all together.

I came expecting in this thread all the faggots claiming how this isnt bad design, and how they figured out in 5 seconds the mechanic, even the level designer apologized years later, and how everyone who got stuck should kill himself

Im not dissapointed. Never change /vr/.

>>3565926
idiot detected

>>3567623
Maybe they mean the pattern, wich is triangles pointing up and down. But it's a stretch.

>>3568474
those are clearly teeth

>>3564964
Sonic Boom is between Sonic 2 and 3? Unless you're only counting games before the Dreamcast, in which case you probably haven't played the SMS/Game Gear titles.

>>3567995
I don't know what to tell you

I never gave this level a second thought until threads came up about it

I spent more time doing the past/future thing on Sonic CD. If you were to ask me the name of the level a year ago, I couldn't tell you

>>3555757
This.

I spent some time trying to time my jumps, then at the lowest I got the barrel I tried to spindash off it to get through. Then I realised pressing down worked. Considering the only moves you really get in sonic were jumping and spindashing, I figured most people would see if a spindash worked and then realised pressing down did something.

It's not really that hard to figure out the barrel.