/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3538429
This isnt Rondo of Blood...

When will you spend more than ten seconds to come up with some bait that isn't on life support?

Not Super Castlevania IV, but "Akumajō Dorakyura." Get the Japanese version without the censored everything.

>>3538436
Shitty level designs and waifu faggotry, RoB can't be the best.

>>3538442
>>3538429

I like Rondo, but I actually agree with you on IV being the greatest.

however, you know people will tell you IV isn't the best because the whip is OP, what will you tell them to convince them?

>>3538429
That's not Bloodlines

>>3538451
Just tell them to not aim their whip, then it plays just like a NES Castlevania.

Also, it's less OP than Rondo's item crash or Bloodlines' level 4 weapon.

>>3538429

Did you expect any argument here?

>>3538429
When the dust will settle.

>>3538429
"no"

More like Super casualvania 4

Be careful or you'll summon Australia-kun.

>>3538429
that's not Aria of Sorrow

>>3538429
That's not x68000 Castlevania

>>3538429
Bloodlines is better

>>3538457
>>3538521
>Bloodlines
>most of the bosses are shit despite being a boss rush-style game
>visuals look awful for a 1994 game, especially the ugly backgrounds
>gameplay is broken, super subweapon devastates anything in your path
>has even more slowdown than Super IV, despite being on better hardware
>music, while the compositions are great, sound terrible on Genesis' chip

Yeah, nah, Bloodlines is a bad game. Worst of the 16-bit Castles tbqh.

>>3538429
Even CVX is far superior to this game. Honestly nothing will ever beat CVIII. CVIV is an outright embarrassment to the series though. They ruined half of the things that made Castlevania good with that game.

>poor music/sound effects on a *SNES*
>full jump control
>full whip control
>boring boss fights
>crouch walking
Actually... you know what? IV isn't even a Castlevania game. </thread>

>>3538549
I actually think Bloodlines is pretty great, but the sound effects are what really do it in for me. The sound effects are 100% garbage. CVIV is still awful though. It's basically CVIII or gtfo.

I have no idea why people like jazzvania i mean WHAT IS THIS!? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzXtYhCoTpM&feature=youtu.be&t=77

>>3538553
>poor music/sound effects on a *SNES*

It has some of the best sound effects in the series though. The whip and the sounds when you break skeleton bones are really well made. Compare it to Bloodlines' sound effects.

>>3538569

>not liking jazzvania

>>3538572
>has to compare it to literally the worst sounding CV game to make it look good
Point made.

>>3538576

What Castlevania game has a better sounding whip and skeleton bone crush?

>>3538560
CVIII is overrated, senpai.

>>3538560

>IV is awful
>>3538584
>III is overrated

you niggas have some awful taste yourselves. Or you're trying too hard to bait.

Super CV4 > CDX > Rondo > Chronicles > Haunted Castle > Bloodlines

NINTENDO WINS AGAIN HOLY SHIT HOW DO THEY DO IT

>>3538591

Nah I'd put Bloodlines above Haunted Castle.
And maybe Rondo over CDX, Rondo is too gud.

>>3538596
I wish Rondo had skippable cutscenes, also what's up with stage 5'? It's like they just stopped caring at that point.

>>3538583
CVX

>>3538591
CVIII > CV1 > Rondo > CVX > Bloodlines > CV Chronicles > CVII > Game Boy titles > CVIV > Haunted Castle

When will you castlevania 4 fanboys admit that the only reason you like castlevania 4 is because it's the easy one.

>>3538624

I'd say Rondo is the easy one.
Actually, Bloodlines is pretty easy too. The difficulty just went down after Castlevania III.
Dracula X and X68K feel more punishing I guess, then they made SOTN.

>>3538620
>rondo above cdx
>bloodlines above x68k
>arcade game dead last

casual detected

>>3538635
>rondo above cdx
That's purely from a total flavor standpoint. CVX is more fun to me, but Rondo has more stages, another playable character, cheesy cutscenes and cooler bosses. Those things just add up to be a better package. I do think that it is too easy though, and the Dracula fight is especially pathetic.

>bloodlinse above x68k
It's purely because I hate the X68k ost.

>Arcade dead last
Yeah, that game is complete dogshit. All it amounts to is a collection of awful hit boxes, and meh level design. There is really no redeemable factor of that game.

>casual detected
Retard detected

>>3538665
>It's purely because I hate the X68k ost.

Why? You aren't mistaking the original X68K OST with the arranged Chronicles one, right?

>There is really no redeemable factor of that game.

The music, and the graphics are reasonably nice. But especially the music.

>>3538673
I've played through both versions and while I do think the Chronicles arranged ost is even worse, I still think the x68 ost is bad, but only for a CV game. If it wasn't tied to CV, they'd be decent tracks. They just don't fit CV at all. Neither do the tracks for CV IV.

As to the arcade, I suppose that's true. It doesn't look or sound bad. It just plays like dog shit.

>>3538685
Well I disagree because I also think the IV soundtrack fits Castlevania perfectly.

I only disliked the Chronicles versions of X68K. It's like they were "woohoo, new millenium! electronic club music!" and it didn't really work.

>x68000
>getting tricked by the harder-is-better meme

>>3538694

It's not a bad game.

>>3538429
Is ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqTaXz43XUc

I'll just leave it here

>>3538718
>all that disgusting autotune

yeah, no

>>3538718
That's really fucking gay mate

>>3538718
Wow. This is somehow even gayer than the actual OST. Congrats, anon. Ya did it.

>>3538725
>>3538727

she's a qt tho.

I dunno, I liked it.

How about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsf-lxuGwZc

>>3538732

>Simon's Theme
>the manliest theme in vidya
>gay

Anon, you're projecting.

>>3538737
>a game about bondage people whiping skeletons
>manly
okay anon

>>3538740

>implying you wouldn't shit your pants if you saw a walking skeleton

>>3538429
Both Rondo and Bloodlines are better

>>3538760
XX>Rondo>IV>X68000>Bloodlines

>>3538760
Nah bloodlines doesn't have cool backflips like rondo or moonwalking like jazzvania

>>3538665
>bad hitboxes
Oh look, it's that anon that blames his shitty gaming skills on the hitboxes, like with Virgin's Aladdin.

>>3538665
>Rondo has more stages
Quality > quantity

>another playable character
Who cares, she breaks the game.

>cheesy cutscenes
Would be fine if you could skip them.

>cooler bosses
CDX's are better, and still has the best Rondo boss as well (werewolf).

>It's purely because I hate the X68k ost.
Shit taste, x68k's music is fantastic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J07BQI2y7do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPK50zWpZTQ

>>3538782

haunted castle's sprite is a big hitbox though.

>>3538429
Next April Fools

>>3538796
>roland sound canvas midi

How come nobody ever mentions the underrated Adventure ReBirth on /vr/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzsNt6t32c4

>>3538737
I mean, I'm a tranny. So maybe?

>>3538810
You have a problem with the best midi sound font, son?

>>3538821
>unironically liking any midi

>>3538829

yeah what a faggot, I bet he also likes 0s and 1s

>>3538829
>disliking MIDI when nearly all game musicians use it as a sequencing standard + their synthesizers/samplers/sound modules/VSTs of choice
You just don't like Roland Sound Canvas

>>3538553
>Wow this game is so shit. Look at how well you can control your guy compared to the other games where you couldn't do shit for arbitrary reasons. Great controls = shit game

You have major shit taste. No word in any langauge properly displays how shit your taste is.

60% of your argument is that it's shit because it has better controls. Fuck off back to Atari where you belong.

>>3538553
this post reeks of australia, all it needed was a watamote image.jpg

>>3538818
You headcases cant have a single normal conversation without bringing that shit up. No one cares that you chopped yourself apart.

I wish there were Super IV romhacks, the gameplay is perfect but the enemies and bosses are a little too weak tbqh.

>>3540612

Get a password for the 2nd loop difficulty, enemies take double hits to beat and there are more of them all the way through.

Castlevania Chronicles is the bast Castlevania and that is an objective fact.

>>3540638
* $0.50 has been donated into your Sony trust fund.

>>3540638
Medusa is a real bitch in that game.

>>3538429

I don't know about /vr/ but I still consider IV the best. Not that I think it's very good, but it's the best game in a mediocre series.

>>3538429
I'm still thoroughly impressed that a gameboy version of castlevania still has the literal best music of any castlevania to this day

>>3538429
>When will you admit that Super Castlevania IV is actually the greatest Castlevania game of all time, /vr/?

When people are gonna stop making Castlevania threads currently on modern /vr/, is worthless.

Thanks to the shitposters, autismo guys and australia kuns!

>>3539045
>>3539075
Well I can say I'm not Australia Kun, but these replies did make me laugh. Thanks for that.

>>3538429

I'd admit that. I never really liked the whole MetroidVania thing.

>>3538429
I'm happy to admit that.

>>3538624
I'm happy to admit that. Doesn't mean I don't like the harder ones though.

>>3538474
>Just tell them to not aim their whip, then it plays just like a NES Castlevania.

If you have to tell people not to play the game the way it was designed then they didn't design a very good game, now did they?

>>3542278

self-imposed challenges aren't uncommon in video games. Never played Castlevania 1 without whip upgrades or sub-weapons?

>>3538429
I don't like arcade games.

Of course i admit it !!!

Nothing can be comparate it, the movement, gameplay, that pixels are magic, people prefer SoN because Alucard looks cool but this is much better.

>>3538429
I know I'm gonna catch hell for this, but my favorite Castlevania game of all time is SNES version of Dracula X.

For me it just has the right combination of gameplay and difficulty. IV is fun but in my opinion the multi directional whip makes the game far too easy. I find all the swinging sections with the Mode 7 rotating kind of annoying as well.

Dracula X plays like a suped up version of the original NES Castlevania, and frankly that is exactly what I want. I prefer the overall simplicity of it

>>3542286
>cellphone screenshot
Eww

>>3538429
It's by far the most atmospheric, with pitch-perfect music and visuals overshadowing even Symphony of the Night, but its lack of difficulty is a frequent criticism.

>>3538429
IV is one of my favorites, but I don't think it's the best. I'd put the original and III over it, as well as X68000.

I'll level with you: I hate X68000 just because of that fucking raft. Yes I'm bad, fuck you.

>>3542473
git gud kid

>>3542895
>>3542473

The raft section isn't even hard australia, stop samefagging.

>>3542903
Mermen RNG can and usually will knock you into the water, especially on the later loops.

I'm starting to wonder if /vr/'s resident "Castlevania fans" even actually play the games.

>>3542907

Your bullshit became stale ages ago, but cry so more when mods delete your shitposts.

>>3542910
Cry? But it's amusing that my OC is always deleted, within minutes even. The obsessive janitor really needs to get a life; being easily triggered by the truth can't be good for his health.

>>3542938

>calls X68K and IV "remakes"
>the truth

And I'll bet you will keep replying, lol. You never learn, boy.

>>3538572
The music however is fucking shit.

>>3538762
>XX>Rondo>IV>X68000>Bloodlines

>XX better than rondo
This is bait

>>3543013

it's not?

>>3543017
It's not. He's just a genesis kid.

>>3542953
Technically they are remakes, they just are not 1:1 remakes. Like how Dracula X SNES is a port of Rondo that took some liberties with the source.

>>3538553
How does having more control make it a worse game? Are you a masochist or something?

>>3543104

Re-imaginings would be a more fitting description, technically they are not remakes, they're completely different games sans the fact you play as Simon and fight Dracula at the end.

>>3538718
>tfw no trap gf

>>3542286

Why this game is so fucking ugly? Circle of the Moon came before and is prettier. HoD looks like a train wreck.

>>3543108
I'll tell you how. It makes it bad when Castlevania wasn't designed for such control and you do nothing to the gameplay to compensate which results in a game far too easy to actually be considered a CV title. Sure, the control what a neat new addition, but the game did nothing for it. It's just a CV where you have the ability to wreck anything with the whip alone. What an amazing title. A CV game that takes everything you loved and makes it where you don't have to try at all to obtain any degree of success. That's just what I wanted :D

>>3543339

Not this again.
IV wasn't the only one to change the gameplay. Pretty much every other CV changes gameplay rules. It's okay if you don't like the game, but your argument is moot.

>>3543104
Calling them remakes is disingenuous since the vast majority of the games are different. They share a story, but story never counted for much in the series, especially not the Classicvanias.

>>3543349
Actually your response is moot, as you didn't address my issue. I have no issue with the gameplay changing. What I do have issue with is not designing the game around the changes you make. They made a CV game like they did before, but added nothing to the levels to make it work, so instead you're just an OP Belmont which ruins it.

>>3543367

The thing is, you're saying the game doesn't work and it actually does, it's just that you don't like the game which is a subjective matter. The game isn't ruined and it sure works. And it's not a copy of the first game as you imply, it does actually add more things to take advantage of the multi-whip, such as having a lot more aerial enemies and bats flying at you directly in diagonal. It's not like IV is the only Castlevania to have multi-whip though.

>>3543389
>It's not like IV is the only Castlevania to have multi-whip though.
Actually, it's the only Classicvania to have 8-way whip and whip dongle. Face it, you IV apologists are in the wrong here, the game is just too damn casual for a series known to be at least somewhat challenging.

>>3543482

>IV apologists

I don't need to be an apologist for a game that's widely considered to be one of the best in the series. And it's not even my favorite, but you have to admit you're biased against it. It had 8-whip way but other games had other mechanics that made them OP in their own way. Also, the whole "2ez" argument reeks of tryhard poser, I doubt you even play Castlevania competitively.

I dunno about you guys, but I love how powerful Simon is in IV. Feels like I'm a fuckin' badass.

>>3538815
its not vr

>>3543339
So it's kinda like playing Doom on a sourceport with full mouselook then. Point taken.

It's not bad, but greatest when 1 (NES) and Rondo (PC CD) exists?

Hilarious.

>>3538549
>shits on basically every aspect of Bloodlines
>Yeah, nah, bad game
>I just say things to get attention because it's the only thing valuable to me
I could end your life and nobody would even utter a protest. You'll be remembered as the man who left this plane whimpering.

>>3544463
Modern remakes are allowed on /vr/. :^)

>>3538429
I really like Akumajo Densetsu, the Japanese version of Castlevania 3. The soundtrack is amazing thanks to the VRC6 chip; NESfags never even knew what they were missing. I even modded my NES to play because the video output on my Famicom is so bad.

Here is a comparison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v9339JUK3U

>>3544930

GOAT game, but that cover is american megaman tier.

>>3543156
SC4 is definitely a pure re-imagining but X68000 is closer to CV1 by far.

>>3543156
It's a remake. Just look at this part of the game, clearly they took it from the original.

>>3545106

Pretty much every classicvania has that one part. Rondo and Bloodlines too, the stairs up to Drac's room is a staple of the series.

>>3542281

That really doesn't counter the point. Any game can be fun if you get creative enough. You can make Superman 64 fun if you're creative enough.

>>3545140
It was a joke, anon.

>>3545009
>Trevor's derp face
LEL

SotN all the way. Can't express how much I like this game.

>>3538815
>no knockback when damaged

Into the trash it goes.

>>3538553
>>full jump control
>>full whip control
>>boring boss fights
>>crouch walking

Lacking this is the reason the rest of the series is so shit.

Hey guys!

Anyone know about Castlevania Adventure Rebirth?
I found it at a flea market and it looked interesting.

>>3548330

Not retro.

Also, why was it a Fatfuck and Mike episode? Castlevania should be always with James, he's the vanianerd.

>>3548330
You mean the Wiiware title? How can you find it at a flea market then?

Anyway it's really good if you ask me. Definitely worth a play, or even two considering the alternate paths there are to find. Can get brutal on Hard a few levels in.

>>3548337
Not retro by this board's rules, but definitely is by the original and first definition of the word.

>>3548367

It's not retro, being made with 2000s technology, but it's a sort of remake of an old Game Boy title so it's okay to discuss it here I guess.

>>3548337
Because its new and fatsloppyfuck is who knew about it.

Bigdickdaddy didnt even know the difference between wiiware and virtual console.

>>3548330
Bosses are pretty shit, and the levels are meh. I mean, it was nice to get a Classicvania after what, 15 years? But they could've made it a bit better 2bh.

>>3543279
I don't what to say. Maybe is the mc, has very light colors.

>>3548690
Didn't they deliberate do this since the original GBA models didn't have backlit?

>>3548694

Yeah, it looks a lot darker on a OG GBA screen.
I still want to try the CV GBA games on a Micro.

I've been replaying IV the past couple days. Honestly, it all just feels really tame. The bosses are pretty easy too. I find myself getting cornered and start panic-whipping, and I end up winning anyway. Any other CV would fuck your shit up for that. You get sent fucking flying in Rondo, but most of the "stronger" enemies in IV barely chip away at your health.

Honestly, the most fun I've had with IV is swinging around with the whip. I don't know why there isn't more of it. They give you this super cool whip, but they don't do anything with the level design to capitalize on it. There's so much potential there. Swinging around, hitting levers, grabbing and throwing enemies and shit. I don't know why they didn't do so much.

>>3548809

But then people would complain it deviates from the classic CV formula even more. The multi-whip is pretty OP, but it still feels like Castlevania. I don't think it'd feel right if you could also use the whip in different ways, like grabbing enemies, throwing, etc. Would feel too different.

I've also been replaying it this past days, along with other CV titles, and I found the complaint that it's too easy is exaggerated, or at least, I didn't find it tame or dull. The game is action-packed all the way through, it's intense at all times as Castlevania should be. It has a good balance of platforming and action. I actually think the multi-whip comes in handy quite a lot of times when you're dealing with some platforming and enemies coming at you at the same time, it's a no stop situation, you just go and whip your way through. A single mistake could kill you due to being knocked back.
Also, it has the most annoying Eyeball enemies in the whole series. Even with the multi-whip they're hard to kill due to their pattern, been fooled more than once by those fuckers.
I used a continue but I remember being able to beat this game without losing a single life.

>>3548832
I feel like the game is pretty easy as far as Castlevania goes until you get to the castle. Then they start throwing more shit at you. I just beat the treasure room last night and went to bed.

>>3548981

I feel like only stages 1 and 2 are easy, and the first half of stage 3. When you arrive to the submerged city the game already gets tougher, stage 5 introduces the whipping skeletons which is one of my favorite enemies in the series I think. There should have been more skeletons with bone-made whips.

>>3548981
It's pretty easy until the hex stages. Honestly it's too long for its own good, you have to wait forever to get to the interesting stages and then it's over. I would have liked a Castlevania V with IV's gameplay, but with harder level design and stronger bosses.

>>3543279
To make up for how the early gba had no back light. They made the game brighter so you could see it.

>>3549278

Does CotM have that problem? It isn't even the blue aura, it's the weird ass movement sprites, the whip thick as a baseball bat. Shit feels wrong to even look at.

I tried emulating dracula chronicles x for psp for thr first time and holy shit why does it look so bad? It really looks worse than the original like it was made in 3dmax or something.

>>3551407
It's an early PSP game, also if you're emulating probably the upscale reveal the lowres textures, it's better if you play on a real PSP.

But yeah, I do prefer the original's 2D graphics over the remake. However, the remake has some nice backgrounds, with a lot more detail than the backgrounds on the original.

>>3538429
Lmao no.

>>3552335

Dirty phoneposters shouldn't be allowed to even have opinions.

Are these the best renditions of the Big 3?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TecRb1nYrSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq4Vhfy2NMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZW-iRmx3wI

>>3538429
subjectively i dont like it. imo simon takes up too much space and the all the whipping directions just take away a lot of the challenge and make the sub weapons mostly useless. i think it's my second-to-least favorite out of the original five t.bh

god-tier level pacing though

>>3538451
Tell them that the game throws enemies at you from different angles, which makes up for the advantage you get with the whip.

>>3538442
Why don't you just ignore the waifus.

>>3552407
>Why don't you just ignore the waifus.
because you have to watch their cutscenes if you want 100%

>>3552423

>ONICHAN! DARE?

>>3552423
It's like 5 minutes each. Just get up and make a cup of coffee then go back to your game.

Why do people hate Bloodlines?

Too easy? Well yeah, it's true.

I just finished it and I prefer it over SCIV because I prefer Bloodlines' art style and OST.

>>3548168
Amen. Having to rely on gimped controls to create difficulty is just shit design.

>>3553532
I finished it on every/with difficulty/every charater

It s great
Ignore the haters

>>3553532
Because a B-team worked on it, whereas proto-Treasure made Super IV.

>>3554050

I like IV better than Bloodlines, but you're just spreading bullshit about "B-team".
Every Castlevania after the 3rd NES one was assigned to different teams, there were no "A" or "B" teams. In fact I remember an interview with the director of Castlevania IV saying the Bloodlines team was being helped by some of the guys from the IV team.

>>3554061
Nah, the Sega team was formed to do Rocket Knight Adventures, Hard Corps, and Bloodlines. I'm pretty sure none of the members had worked on IV either.

>>3554082
So they only made one good game (RKA)? That's too bad.

>>3554082

Not actually worked but I mean that the Bloodlines team consulted the IV team, that kinda help.
RKA and Hard Corps are also good games, I don't think it's a "B team".

IV is literally a masterpiece. /vr/ just hates it because it's a SNES exclusive and the Angry Nintendo Nerd worships it.

>>3552390
I've always been more partial to Rondo's arrangements, but they're probably the best part of IV's OST.