/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3534407
Reminder that there are very retarded point and click autists that like point and click games.

>>3534407
I actually didn't like it because of all the time skips. It didn't feel like they transitioned well.

Reminder that these people are shit eating Sierra game fans

I don't care how good this game is, that fat faggot Tim Schafer is cancer and everything he touched is retroactively shit.

>>3534407
Grim Fandango is one of my favorite games of all time. I went into it expecting some light story but got sucked in and couldn't stop until I finished it.

The remaster is shit though, same audio, barely higher res backgrounds and models, expensive. I picked up the original in a mom and pop store along with Alice and Undying for $10. Worth every cent.

>>3535140
I don't even care about him, anything LucasArts made in the late 80s, 90s and early 00s was gold. They couldn't do wrong during that time. It was like the Simpsons S2-10 of games; they just had all the right people at the right time with the right chemistry and made amazing shit. Nobody cares about Double Fine or anybody else after they left LucasArts.

Give me some good point and click adventure games for DOS. I haven't played this genre a lot.

>>3534418
The point of the game is it takes place on the Day of the Dead over multiple years.

>>3535532
That's the execution, not the point, you idiot. It was a directional decision to present the story that way, and it was a poor one.

>>3535582
No, it really is the point of the story. The Day of the Dead is when the dead return to the world of the living to see their loved ones. Manny, however, has no interest in relatives or the living world in general. Yet he's also basically captured in limbo in his afterlife, stuck in a dead-end job and not progressing towards the Ninth Underworld - the land of eternal rest. It's only on the Day of the Dead that he DOES make progress. It's only on that day that he leaves what he knows behind and sets off on a new destination. And once he does make some progress, he returns to a passive state for an entire year.

The point of the story is that on the day of the dead, where most of the departed look to the past, on that day Manny moves towards his future.

>>3535602
Pure kino. Love the game even more

>>3535602
Again, that's a directional decision, moron. Tons of games have acts. Grim Fandango had jagged act transitions, and deciding to dress it up as "he only progresses on the Day of the Dead" is lazy. It feels more like the modern Telltale games that are just one episode after another, instead of a cohesive experience, but I bet you think those are awesome, too.

>>3535695
Grim Fandango is nothing like a garbage Telltale game

kys

>>3535582
>>3535695
Your pleb is showing.

Oh yeh tell me about this fun puzzle where you are in that forest driving around with your car and then there is this weird machine that does nothing and makes no sense. It all seems so random and just fucking shit. This is where I gave up. Made up machines that make no sense. I am out.

>>3535154
>early 00's

Monkey Island 4 called and wants to take you out to the bar, anon.

>point and click
Is this the new "belt-scroller"?

>>3535816
The genre has always been called that.

>>3535532
I preferred Day of the Tentacle over multiple years.

>>3535839
No, they've always been called adventure games.

>>3535846
Nice history revision, faggot

>>3535851
I have never heard "point and click" before I came to this board and I've been playing Adventure games since the Atari ST days.

>>3535846
>>3535853
Then you've been living under a rock. Find scans of any PC gaming magazine from the late 80s/early 90s and I guarantee you'll find the term point-and-click being tossed around.

>>3535860
I don't remember it.

>>3535154
>The remaster is shit though, same audio, barely higher res backgrounds and models, expensive. I picked up the original in a mom and pop store along with Alice and Undying for $10. Worth every cent.
I bought the remake and was pretty surprised by how incredibly half-assed it was.

They did overhaul the control scheme though, so it might be worth picking up for some folks in the thread complaining about the original.

>>3534407
Discworld noir is better.

>>3535938

Because you said that, I am going to go play through that game right now. You better not be a lying sack of shit

>>3535950
There is a way to make it work on windows 7, Google around.

Trust me, its a much smarter, funnier better written game than Grim fandango, not saying GF is bad or anything.

In fact I actually think GF puzzles may be better.


Both have great jazzy ost.

>>3534407
point and click fans are the worst anon, don't worry about that, the genre is dead and partly because of them

>>3535721
>>3535789
you kids got btfo

>>3535973
>point and click fans are the worst anon

wut

>>3535846
There are different types of adventure games, anon. But I know you know this.

>>3535721
>>3535789
>n-no...I don't like Telltale...!
>you're the pleb!
>samefagging

>>3535979
>>3536716
"Hello, Kettle? This is Pot. Hey, listen. You're black."

>>3536751
You're getting desperate.

>LucasArts game
>brilliant writing

hahahahahahaha

NO

>Reminder that there are very retarded point and click autists that don't like Grim Fandango just because of how it controls
Right here. For a simple reason: There is no reason for this shitty control scheme and it feels like crap. I actually like tank controls, when they are done right and for a reason, like in Resident Evil. I don't need point and click, but I need something that makes sense and doesn't feel like cancer all the way through. Controls are the most integral part of any video game, and if they are shit, it detracts, it's that simple. I still finished it, but I didn't enjoy it as much as I could have, because Schafer has his head up his ass. I got the remake cheap in a bundle and it is much better. I also like Myst a lot.

>>3536819
>no reason
You don't understand anything about tank controls. Tank controls exist for games that have static camera angles in a cinematic fashion that change as you move the character to a different part of the room. In Resident Evil and Grim Fandango this allows your perspective to change completely but your character to continue moving in the same direction.

There's a point and click mod so there's no reason to bitch.

>>3536953
Different anon here, Grim Fandango had issues beyond the tank controls. One of the things that REALLY annoyed me when I played through it is that it tries to "correct" Manny's direction when you run into a wall, so instead of letting you keep running in place up against the wall, you careen off at an angle. This is pretty sucky in a game where it's often hard to tell where exactly you're allowed to stand, and when you're often trying to get up close to objects so you can interact with them. Plus it just makes running in straight lines harder. I remember in Year 2, when you leave Manny's office and head downstairs, just holding forward will make you ping-pong around the room as you bounce off like 4 different objects in different directions. Shit's annoying.

I usually don't take issue to tank controls at all--I've played a ton of Tomb Raider--but it's unacceptable for the game to decide a new direction without you telling it to.

>>3536791
This. I never understood why people like characters like Glottis or thought they were well written.

I'm guessing the praise came from the lol so randem family guy audience who never read a good book in their lives.

>>3535860
Actually they were / are
"point and click adventure games"
I have all my old PC games tucked away or else I would confirm this.

>>3534407
critics complained about it when it was released and i never understood why.

it was an novel change and allowed for a wider variety of camera angles. everyone was playing resident evil at the time too so it wasn't difficult to comprehend.

Honestly, while I liked it at the time despite the awkward movement, I've grown to become a bit neutral towards it. It's nice enough, the characters are fun, the story is entertaining, but I don't know, it's just missing something. When you consider that Curse came out just a year before, you can't help but feel like something was really lost in the switch to 3D in terms of gameplay.

At least it's better than Escape.

>>3537684
Oh my god! I remember that! I can't find it for a decent price though... :(

>>3535528
Lucasarts everything, honestly. If you want serious Indiana Jones & The Fate of Atlantis is a good choice. Monkey Island or Sam & Max: Hit The Road for humour.

>>3535965
I want the Discworld games to be remade. Just to make them more compatible with modern tech, really.

>>3536791
>>3537528
Can you recommend any well written funny adventure games? I prefer humour over seriousness in my games, for the most part.

>>3536774
>screenshots mean things when "inspect element" exists
Not him but this means shit, don't know why people keep doing it.

Enjoy the 4chan pass.

>>3537765
Sam and Max Hit the Road.

>>3537867
"I don't think the cute little robot wants to follow its new programming, Sam."
"I don't recall giving it a cute little choice."

>>3535892
>Several videos before release about how much intense care was put into properly lighting and detecting everything.

>The polish drops like a rock after the first hour.
>Random color changes, shoes suddenly missing soles, squiggly lines becoming geometric for no reason.
>Lighting fuckups all over the place and rarely with the intensity necessary for the Noir feel.
>Fucking up shadows to the point that they look worse than the faked original.

When you talk to Lupe, Manny's shadow is cast towards the light source instead of on to the desk. How the FUCK do you mess up that bad?

>>3537867
>"Lucas Arts games aren't very good."
>Recommends a Lucas Arts game

God you homos are annoying

>>3537798
Fuck off, faggot.

>>3538205
It's almost as if there's multiple people each with different opinions in this thread.

>>3537798
How do you use inspect element to save images of chan posts?

I loved everything about it besides the gameplay

>having to move around and figure out what does what, what's an area and what isn't, etc
>camera angles
>item navigation system
>lack of autosave then, and in the remaster

>>3540741
right click, inspect element, type things in the bottom window

>>3542351
Ok I made your post say the word nigger.
Now how do I save this as a jpeg without having to carefully trace with the snipping tool?

>>3543589
>This is what passes for bait

Style over substance is what has killed good gaming over the last two decades and turned it into complete garbage.

>>3535528
The P&C for people who don't get P&C is Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis

>>3538218
You got the joke, congrats.

>>3543589
lol

>>3537765
Check out Pacman 2, that game is a barrel of laughs.

>>3543694
Why do you draw a map, if it looks exactly like this in the game (captions included)?

>>3535845
Such an underrated game

>>3544237
Can you look at a map you're not on?

>>3535802
Monkey 4 wasn't bad though, just uninspiringly average.

Curse is the bad one. Its only saving grace are the graphics, soundtrack and voice acting.

>>3538136
Day of the Tentacle is worse. It looks like it was filtered to death.

>>3546547
Curse had several excellent puzzles. It's a bit simplified from 2 but is still a great game.

>>3542351
There are two windows side by side when I inspect element. Neither is beneath the other so as to be the bottom (no homo).

Well what should I type to get perfectly cropped screencaps for future VR dicsucsions?

>>3546620
It's called "Snipping tool". I know this is supposed to be bait, but for real.