/vr/ - Retro Games

>hdmi to crt converter

Jesus Christ son, what did you expect? I guess you could set the Pi's resolution to as low as possible and see if that helps.

>>3533118
I used a Wii instead...

Uh, it just wont work and basically you're retarded.
Get a video card with S-Video and install EmuDriver on it to get 240p.

>>3533118
>hdmi to crt converter
You're doing it wrong. Use the AV port.

>>3533118
>raspberry pi
>hdmi to vet

And most of all

>not making your friend replace your snes

>>3533118
Throw the Pi in the trash

>>3533190
PI
IN
THE
LOO

>>3533190
>>3533191

Hey now, the Pi's not all bad...you can watch videos on it, anime for instance..well, not much anime, just old stuff that isn't HiT0P or any other compression method beyond 2007 standards...but you can watch streaming websites! Y'know, like you can on any other device in history...

Nah you're right, throw it in the trash. It's a complete joke for /vr/ purposes any way you look at it.

>>3533209
It's funny, I'm reading this as I'm playing Final Fantasy Tactics off my pi. If you think the device is useless you are either delusional or technically challenged. Either way, I feel bad for you.

>>3533235
>I'm reading this as I'm playing Final Fantasy Tactics off my pi

>>3533235

No, I'm not impressed that you're playing an 18 year old game on a little box. It has no advantage over the practically anything else you can use these days, if anything it's more of a hassle to get set-up than the majority of options and under-performs by design.

I thought the pi had a composite out port already

>>3533118
https://www.amazon.com/Parts-Express-3-5mm-Plug-Cable/dp/B0007V6JCK

>>3533291
forgot my image

>>3533286
Composite port on Pi only outputs 480i.
OP needs HDMI->VGA converter and then you can output 240p resolution to BNC or SCART.
https://reddit.com/r/RetroPie/comments/49wkr9/240p_rgbs_guide_rgb_composite_sync/

>>3533271
Being able to run emulators on it is nifty, but a side attraction. It's the other things you can do with it that make it interesting, mostly the things you can do with the GPIO pins. But yes, if you're the type of person who can't create but only consume, yes, there's nothing magical about the Pi, aside from maybe it's price.

>>3533361

For that purpose you'd be better served spending the little bit extra for an actual MiniPC with something more powerful than an ARM processor, maybe one you can hook up to a CRT without having to daisychain 3 or 4 different hookups to guarantee horrendous lag. The Pi I had three years ago was the hypest shit in my mind but unless you're using it as a tool, like you said, it's about the least practical choice for emulation.

>>3533361
>magical price
ikeked

>>3533397
Or a lot less for a similar but better device. I think my cheapest orange probably outclasses my most expensive memeberry.

Are rear projection TVs good? I should be able to get a second hand one at a decent price.

I woulda killed my friend desu

>>3533430
Rear Projections are literally the worst kind of TV you can get

>fucking enormous
>need perfect lighting otherwise it looks terrible
>usually it looks terrible regardless


A 20" crt or 30+ ish trinitron if you're crazy is more then enough for standard gaming.

I use my desktop CRT right now and I'm only about 2.5 feet away and its fine. A 20 would be preferred but I just havent hunted one down yet.

>>3533118
>Try to replace it with a pi
Good lord.
>hdmi to crt converter
No wonder it looks shit. It's running at the wrong resolution, it's also running at the wrong refresh rate. There's is also input lag introduced from the conversion process.
>>3533209
>Hey now, the Pi's not all bad
Yes my wife's son and I enjoy ours.
>>3533430
No

>>3534609
Also if you're using a HDCRT like your related pic, then all 240p games are going to look like shit and have input lag no matter what.

>>3533118
I am very disdainful about the level of analog out with all those fruity pis. The original rasperry pi having composite out was respectable, on par with the rest the system had to offer, but then we didn't get any improvements over that.

For TV out we basically have just that and S-video for the antiquated and pricey Beagleboards...

...the only appealing analog-out on raspberry pi type devices is VGA, on board like the original Cubietruck. Which isn't even a good option, frills like extra networking equipment make it not worth it. Which limits things worth considering to just some, like one of the Olinuxino boards.

>>3533118
What kind of CRT are you running, OP?

Wii with homebrew is generally the best and cheapest option.

Also RIP SNES.

Hey, perfect. Maybe someone here can help me out.

I've been playing some ps1 titles lately and I decided to update retropie on a whim. Well, after the update, the ps1 emulator no longer shows up on emulationstation. My .ISO and BIOS are still there and as far as I can tell, nothing is different; just the emulator selection is gone.

My SNES, NES, and Genesis emulators are still available if that means anything.

>>3533430
No they're not, stop watching "Halt And Catch Fire", SMB doesn't really look that good on one.

>>3533293
>>3533291
Either this, or the $5 VGA666 mod work great.

>>3533118
RPi is shit for CRT if you're talking about the built-in analog video. It's 480i and there's no way to change it, so it looks horrible.

>>3533430
Projectors in general can never match the sharpness of a CRT screen.
Rear projection TV's also have issues with image burn in and guns getting misaligned if you move a lot or have tiny hands slapping their favorite Disney characters on screen. They're also bulky monoliths which require two people to move.

>>3535045
If you're using .bin files for your roms you need the .cue files. .bins no longer show up as roms.

>>3535234
Are there any good options out there for PS1 emulation to a CRT at 240? PS1 emulators on Wii are trash.

All you faggots whining about your 240p resolution and CRT displays are hilarious. I'll never understand how nostalgia grips some people so tightly. I seriously see you guys as being Pat the NES Punk level of autistic.

>>3536295
You're one of those retards who think people only desire those things for nostalgia, huh?

>>3536295
Why bother with a CRT if you're gonna get horrible upscaled 480i on it.

No matter the quality of the video signal it'll look like garbage.

>>3536284
a pc.

>>3536295
>240p
interlacing progressive content makes it flicker and distorts large fields of a single color, sometimes to unplayable levels depending on the device.
>CRT
Most hdtvs don't display 240p correctly. You end up with the interlacing problems above.
Old tube tvs display 240p correctly.

As simple and normie as I could make it for you.

I agree with >>3536445 op. Use a Wii or put a hd 5/6/xxx card in whatever cheap desktop you can find and use crt_emudriver and atom-15

Pi is too slow and the cumbersome daisy chain needed to hook it up ruins the form.

>>3536284
Your best option, aside from a real PSX with a PSIO, would be just using a normal PC and very expensive video conversion hardware.

>>3536709
>PSIO
it's awfully slow and glitchy, you'd be better off with emulation, also it costs more than actually buying all the games.

>>3536284
just get a vga radeon graphic card and emudriver 2.0
he doesn't need expensive video conversion if he's using VGA.
these cards cost 15$ nowaday, get a two pci-e motherboard and have lotsa fun

the image will be better than the shit s-video you get on ps1

you get to netplay on dolphin too if you have a good CPU

>>3535238
>i'll parrot what some kid on the internet said.
"Projectors in general" have always been sharper than CRTs.
Projecting a mirror image doesn't magically cause image burn.
Light guns detect what you're pointing the gun at. They can never get "misaligned"

Rear projection TVs are yuge.

You score 25% out of a possible 100%. A fail in my generation. A Nobel prize in yours.

>>3536894
>Light guns detect what you're pointing the gun at. They can never get "misaligned"
Opinion fucking discarded. Anon wasn't talking about a toy son.

>>3533143
Is that even possible? I always see mixed opinions about that and I have never seen a video of a PC+crt TV at 240p. I remember reading all S-video cards show only 480p or so.

>>3537015
No, it will only output 480i because the card scales the signal differently and locks it at that resolution.
But 480i is good enough for most retro 3D games up to 6th gen.
If you want 240p you need a VGA output and EmuDriver, it's a much better signal than S-Video all around.
Dont use converter, they upscale everything you feed them to 480i.

>>3533118
>>Everything looks like dogshit (Hooked up with hdmi to crt converter)

Ok why would you do this when rasp pi supports composite analog video naively

>>3533118
i use a crt/wii combo in our bedroom for comfy gaming, and have a RPi set up with retropie/ps3 controllers in our living room.

>>3536295

>>3537124
why did you post the same image side by side

>>3537079
>VGA output
how can I connect VGA to an old CRT trinitron? I doubt a VGA-composite cable alone works..

>>3537137
Are you blind?

>>3537189
Simple!
-acquire VGA cable
-plug into perfectflat, diamondtron or FD trinitron

Alternatively, use a VGA to BNC cable, a portion of dual input screens will use this.

>>3537478
>BNC
Is there no cost effective, loseless way to convert VGA to a more conventional output, like composite, S-Video or component?

>>3537549
No. We are many decades away from understanding enough about the tard mind to be able to fix it.

>>3537549
But VGA *is* a very conventional output. You should stop fussing over your personal biases and see that the crux of the issue here is that there just aren't enough single board computers with analog video, and with even those that do have it, it's minimal.

With the R-pi, this problem has been addressed in a very interesting way - through use of the GPIO pins for VGA. It would seem that a simpler signal like S-video might be doable like this without eating up the same ton of pins, maybe even finding a way of combining the normal composite signal with extra signals through GPIO to produce component video or something.

Also, if hackers tinkered with screens more deeply, maybe that would cause analog headers to be a more popular inclusion.

>>3537641
>just aren't enough single board computers with analog video

Is this really the long and short of CRT screens? Are TVs and monitors truly essentially interchangeable? I mean, if video cards commonly have S-video out, and if some consoles like dreamcast can be fitted with VGA out? And maybe some others can be modded for it?

I mean, I know 21 and 22 inch monitors tend to be heavy as fuck, even 19s are rather clunky.

>>3533118
How did your friend kill your SNES?
I want to avoid accidently doing whatever he did to my own SNES.

>>3533235
That's funny for us, sure. Like laughing at the parents of a disabled kid because their life is ruined.

>>3537478
so I pretty much need to find an old CRT tv capable of receiving VGA signal and use Emudriver so I can show 240p and that's it?

>>3541003
You need that built in TV tuner for something?

Nobody mentioned that it would have to be a TV. I suppose you'd want one for it having additional S-video and component input slots for having multiple devices attached?

Along those lines, there are screens with two VGA ports, or more likely, VGA and BNC, so that would let you connect at least a single board computer and a dreamcast.

Are there even any Mitsubishi flatscreen CRT TVs out there? I'm quite sure there are none with a "Perfectflat" tube. I never even heard of any Diamondtrons from any other manufacturers either.

>>3533397
The Pi you had three years ago was a piece of shit for emulation, yes. It was a piece of shit for most applications. I have one running as a dirt cheap NAS back home but its transfer speed is horrendous. The Pi2s and 3s are much more suited to emulation/HTPC or other general use shit. My Pi2 is also a NAS where I am now and it has none of the speed issues the 1 has.

>>3535045
>emulationstation
I think I found your problem
www.lakka.tv

I've heard the Pi can output 240p. How the fuck do you do it? I've got a CRT TV with composite, S-Video, and even component inputs. Sadly no SCART since I'm in Canuckistan, and we use the same shit they have in Burgerland.

>>3544461
>has component
>sad about not having SCART

So I'm trying to do something similar to op, but with an actual computer. Am I better off using CRTemudriver with a compatible graphics card to output 15 kHz 240p, or the specialized graphics card here https://www.ultimarc.com/avgainf.html ?

If it makes any difference, I also plan to have a GTX 970 running on the same pc, for Oculus gaming in Dolphin. The specialized graphics card would just be used for MAME on the CRT.

>>3545112
SCART supports direct RGB, while component needs a stupid fucking converter.

>>3545449
I wanted to do something similar with my desktop but I came to the conclusion that using a Raspberry Pi would be better since it would have wider compatibility.

Anyway, how would I do something like this but with my aforementioned TV instead of an arcade monitor?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKYFKjiO6bc

>>3545449
I'm fucking around with an old trashroom pc and Lakka. seems to be working pretty well all things considered. the gpu only has dvi out so I have to use an old lcd I had laying around

>>3546113
there must be someone who made a guide somewhere on the internet.

Here's a video of some guy that built an emulatorTV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBK1uxlFTtA

>>3546632
I saw this. I can only imagine updating the SD card must be a bitch.

>>3535198
That's a front projection set on HCF and is sweet as shit.

>>3546113
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004X6ABTM/?tag=pcpapi-20

flash it with atom 15, and get crt_emudriver 2.0

vga to scart with sync combined, scart to component transcoder, rca to tv. If you have a pro monitor usr vga to bnc and y the h+v sync together.

>>3540339
Was wondering this myself.

>>3547853
Vga to scart rgb +sync seems to be custom soldering. I haven't found anyone selling one at least.
Vga male, Scart male and cat5 cable seems to be the shoppinglist

>>3548635
its not too hard to tie the sync together and solder it to a pin,you could do it with a wood burner. If soldering was totally out of the question you could do it with a vga to 5 bnc cable and a male scart to 4 bnc cable, use a y adapter to connect the syncs and couple the rest together. no solder rgbhv to rgbs

>>3548635
http://arcadeforge.net/UMSA/UMSA-Ultimate-SCART-Adapter::57.html

I have a pc with a radeon gpu that has vga out. How do I make lakka force the computer to output 240p 15KHz?

>>3533118

I have. Use a HDMI to VGA adapter and put this in your /boot/config.txt:

hdmi_group=1
hdmi_mode=8
hdmi_force_hotplug=1

This is equivalent to using CRT EmuDriver, you then configure Retroarch or whatever just like you would with EmuDriver.

Pic is the result of this setup.

>>3547915
he tried to turn it into an Xbox One by putting the GBA TV Tuner into a GBA-to-SNES adapter, and the SNES burst into flames

>>3533118
if you're going to use a low powered platform, use a console.

>ps2 with HDD
>all I need to emulate is Genesis anyway
>use a CRT with component

>>3549274
does this produce 15 kHz, and is it progressive, or does it upscale 240p to 480i?

>>3549778
Can't you figure out the answers to those questions simply by reviewing anon's photo?

>>3533134
Rpi can display 480p in standard

An hdmi to component isn't new technology.

Rpi2's have composite out

You're a fucking moron

Etc.

>>3549778
Yes, the pic is my non-multiscan BVM so it's 15kHz. The resolution you get is 720x240, same as the Wii in 240p mode.