/vr/ - Retro Games

===NEWS===

[09-23] Anon map release: Fanta Base (for vinesauce contest)
http://www26.zippyshare.com/v/q4ASm87y/file.html

[09-21] Final versions of Anon's DUMP 3 weapons
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ki532dzm1zoutml/Bio%20Eradicator.pk3?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w9wueq78yvkhuso/Flakchette.pk3?dl=0

[09-19] MetaDoom v1.0 "Slayer" for the new GZDoom
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=53010

[09-19] GZDoom 2.2.0 released (with flat sprites, after all)
http://forum.drdteam.org/viewtopic.php?t=7165

[09-17] Doomradio: Intermission E1M2
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1670101

[09-16] Hexen Souls Dev Blog
http://hexen-souls.tumblr.com/

[09-15] The Flat Sprites Debacle
http://kinsie.tumblr.com/post/150415693677/metadoom

[09-14] Mutiny community project final version released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1668971

[09-13] Angst Rahz Revenge Doom TC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE8DAj-rX0Y [Embed]

[09-13] GZDoom Autobuilder currently down
http://forum.drdteam.org/viewtopic.php?t=7146

[09-12] Unconstrained Aspect Ratio for ZDoom
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=939096

[09-12] What should the name of the Booty project be?
http://notepoll.com/p/what-should-the-name-of-the-booty-project-be

[09-11] Anon map release: exit.wad (boom compatible, requires cc4-tex)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4mwJRa7e5VpMEgzT2wyOXQ3Z2M/view?usp=sharing

[09-10] Vinesauce mapping contest: 150 submissions were made
https://twitter.com/joel_vinesauce/status/774307787643969536

[09-09] Proper HUD Scaling
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=53440

[09-09] Interloper by Notlea
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/g-i/intrlpr

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Second for /tg/

>>3519186
awesome

>>3512684
What map is that?

So what was the record for beating Doom levels on nightmare? I'm assuming nobody got through the last level of knee-deep in dead, which is 8.

Welp, after some couple of hours I'm in mission 4. Habbit of having at least 3 savestates for "A-OK", "kinda risky at this point" and "likely impossible" is definitely helpful.
But by god is it a good waste of half an hour to get the blood going, adrenaline and all that shite in the cold autumn morning.

>>3519186
https://soundcloud.com/plastiware/at-jazzs-gate-doom-e1m1-jazz-remix

>blank filename.png

same person as the mm8dm shitter.

>>3519186
Haha - awesome!

>>3519236
> not having a programm to delete the filename
Bruh.

>>3519236
> several people mention mm8dm several time
>> shitter
I think you're the only one here who's shitter. And I don't even know what the fuck it means other than some deathmatch.

So I beat TNT, which makes it a final doom. What now? Any other official releases I've missed?

I guess, I haven't played resurrection for doom 3 yet, and I dropped lost levels of doom 3 since at some point it seemed to just flow into the main campaign (does it btw or is lost levels a whole new campaign that's similar at point?), but aside from that is it time for duke nukem now? What about it?

>>3519251
I'm guessing you already played Plutonia?

>>3519265
> which makes it a final doom
Good guess, anon. I take it, you read my post?

>>3519229
anyone?

>>3519234
1/1 this is marvelous.

Unfacetiously: you may have just introduced me to jazz.
Where can I download this piece?

>>3519280
One of the Japanese Community Mapset.

>>3519284
Following up, the map is actually called "my fave", he's not saying that's his favorite map

bunch of fruits on the map
JP-CP

>>3519283
Another noteworthy track from this guy. https://soundcloud.com/plastiware/spark-mans-electrobarn-breakdown

>>3519190
Thanks for reminding me that I'll never have these miniatures. Jerk.

Somebody posted a webm about a half a dozen threads ago of E1M1 with a fuckton of fancy effects, like there was lighting, blood, fireballs, it was ridiculous. And no, it's not fucking bd.

>>3519309
Risen3D?

>>3519317
Lighting seems to be it, but I think the models and textures were old. There was cool new blood and amazing looking fireballs though. What I see on youtube is shit.

>>3519328
Sounds like Vavoom with hi-res textures and models

>>3519334
Definitely not fucking vavoom. Shit.

>>3518014
Who's this semen demon?

>>3519342
I'm stumped. Could be a shitty Doomsday mod, the only way to know is to see the video.

>>3519317
where download. im be assuming you can turn off the shitty models and shits back to original? the official site redirects to avira warning

>>3519358
I think it said risen3d in the title, just there were no retarded 3d models of monsters, and at the end near the exit there was this great lightshow of light through the net-like thing and it was amazing.

>>3519309
Why not go back and look for it? Every DOOM thread links to the previous thread, so if it's only a few threads back and you can recognize the thread if you see it, it shouldn't be too hard to find.

>>3519362
>Using Avira

Also, it locks Trilinear filtering on

>>3519364
I'm not 100% sure it was half a dozen threads ago and not half a dozen months.

Are there jumpscares in Unloved?

>>3519346

>>3519376
There is a sudden scream in the hubworld, but not much more.

The shadow imps can catch you off guard though.

>>3519379
Scream as in screamer or just the sound?

>>3519384
Just the sound. I can't recall any screamers.

>>3519387
That sounds like something I can handle.
Thank you!

>>3519402
I can't guarantee it though. But as far as screamers go you are safe.

Be ready for some slaughter map like gameplay later on.

It's been another week, time for the drill.

Post your shit, what you're working on, what you're making, what you're drawing, what you're mapping, what you're coding, etc.

>Next Quake Map Jam is about Film Noir

Okay? Like, all the previous themes had something that Quake supported aesthetically by its textures. I doubt you can make tech bases, castles and eldritch worlds Noir by just desaturating them.

>>3519404
Nothing related to Doom I'm afraid.

>>3519407
As if we care
now post it

>>3519404
Haven't started texturing yet, but this is what I have so far. Part of my 1024 mini-wad I'm working on. All the buttons and scripting is all done, but I might do a complete overhaul for it. I feel like it's too focused on pushing buttons instead of just going through the level. Won't be done anytime soon because of school and work, but it's getting there.

one day

>>3519407
post it, fgt

chaingun needs more love

>>3519404
Been working on a test level of sorts for hexen souls.

Mapping certainly isn't my strong suit, and yes, I know the map is very grey, I'm still working out what looks best.

>>3519435
And what Dark Souls inspired mod wouldn't be complete without an unnecessarily fuck-huge door?

>>3519436
needs more skeletons

>>3519434
What a qt!
I don't recognize her tho.

>>3519434

>>3519435
>>3519436
looks good

>>3519459
Yeah, it does. I need some good skeleton sprites.

>>3519472
cheers anon.

>>3519467
amazing

>>3519467
So hot
hnnnng

Is there a way to have vanilla type skyes in non-tube like fashion in GZDoom?

>>3519495
no becuase graf hates you

>>3519436
>>3519435
Awesome.

>>3519496
hey that's not the full picture

graf hates *everyone*

And don't forget linguortals

>>3519501
Hey that's totally not true
He loves his mother
probably

>>3519521
nope

>>3519404
please /vr/, I have literally no idea what to put in this space to connect the two doors, i've been at this one map for months, please end my suffering

>>3519587
A rectangular room, divided in two by a ooze/slime/lava/etc pit.

You have to hit a switch to raise a bridge to connect the two, but the moment you do that, pillars lower down to reveal shotgunners.

>>3519587
Linedefs

>>3519404
Trying out themed fog, eventually it will be based on the majority monster type/s present in the level.

>>3519604
Is that the Unreal 1 HUD in Doom?

>>3519587
telenportenrs

>>3519607
I don't even remember what unreal HUD looks like

But I always liked the "doll" hud of UT, one quick glance tells you if you're wearing armor, where you're wearing it and if you got jump boots or shield belt on.

Speaking of which, epic megashits simplified armor system in UT2014 to quake tier.

>>3519587
a VERY detailed square box with archviles everywhere

>>3518960
whats the money for?

>>3519607
An MSPaint version, yes.

>>3519623
shake it baby

>>3519629
so are there gonna be male strippers or is mel les

>>3519634
mel likes the ladies, yeah.

>>3519623
Right now, for nothing than showing your economic worth is higher than your peers...but I've got plans, oh yes...

...plans which include being able to buy stuff and all that sorta stuff in the future.

>>3519639
what kinda stuff?

>>3519628
Do you have a DL link? Thanks.

>>3519612
Pic related
Also, wasn't the armor simplified all the way back in 2K4?

>>3519309
PLEASE deliver that webm I'm curious

>>3519662
Why would you be curious for a vavoom webm

>>3519653
Pretty shite hud. UT was a massive improvement.

>Also, wasn't the armor simplified all the way back in 2K4?
Oh yeah, I don't remember 2k4 much either (it's crap). So yes now UT2014 has the 50 and the 100, and the 50's stack up to 100. Which in usual UT armor fashion would mean you're wearing thigh pads on your shoulders.

>>3519604
what's the map there? your own?

>>3519667
It's 99% risen3d

>>3519667
not him but i'm vaguely curious too, just to be reminded of what everyone is talking about. that said, i don't care enough to go looking.

>>3519673
>risen3d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCigiEuRvrA

>>3519681
Jesus that looks awful.

>>3519684
but it's not risen3d

>>3519379
Oh. Looked cuter in the other pic.

>>3519639
Well right now the vague plan is to be able to buy mods for weapons you pick up (like getting full-auto pistol, different shell types, etc. etc.), as well as other things that are kind of in the oven at the moment. Probably won't be in the next build though.

Anyone else here prefer both Wolf3D and Quake to Doom?

Currently playing Spearmpixsod with the Cosmetic Upgrade mod and shit is fun.

>>3519671
Yeah, as affectionate as I am for the U1 HUD, I must admit the UT99 one was better, as you could quickly tell how much of each armor type you had.
Also, 2K4 didn't have ShieldBelts. BLASPHEMY

>>3519681
Learn to read: the textures and monsters were ORIGINAL.
That looks dope though.

slowly plodding along.

I really liked how Dark Souls handled item drops, as souls on a corpse, it was really cool

>>3519701
>Also, 2K4 didn't have ShieldBelts. BLASPHEMY
It had shield guns and adrenaline combos for regenaration. It's all good. Really not

>>3519681
Your Path Of Destruction: The Sequel

FINAL DOOM = DONE. What now? Any later or more obscure official releases or should I take on duke/quake now?

>>3519234
How do you download it?

>>3519653
I don't, it's for the mod I'm working on and isn't really meant for default Doom (That's 10 ammo bars there!).

>>3519672
It's MAP01 of BloodStain.

>>3519716
now you spend the rest of your life playing ten thousand PWADs

>>3519709
The shield gun was fucking useless, it drained ammo too quickly. Also, the only gud 'drenaline combo was the one that turned you into a wall pillar, that still cracks me up to this day.

>>3519716
master levels? no rest for the living?

Speaking of Risen3D:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6_9LzKS6s4
Is it just me, or is that BJ Blaskowicz from RTCW?

>>3519739
>Speaking of Risen3D:
If it wasn't for hilariously inept animations on display this might have been a halfway decent novelty port

>>3519404
Spent today putting together a document to hopefully help mappers from doomworld. Whether it's actually useful or not, we'll see.

Next I gotta look into setting up a doombuilder cfg to make mapping for REKKR easier. Anyone know anything about that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLWEjvTgOOQ

>FUCK YOU YOU BASTARD MUTANT PIECE OF SNAIL SHIT

>>3519725
>It's MAP01 of BloodStain.
hmm i thought bloodstain was more hellish

>>3519736
Done.

Final Doom isn't even worth playing.
It's just bad.

>>3519771
plutonia is fun

Okay so after briefly playing with risen3d, it does SEEM to feature some effects that were in that webm namely potions, fireballs and maybe some more minor things, but I remember definitely seeing some blue light going through the net-like barrier (like the 2 before the exit in e1m1 or something). Unless I'm mixing 2 webms together.

But the waste is still without that effect and, again, lighting is not as detailed.

>>3519764
>nuoooo I killed every one of those bastards!

>map gives you a shitton of energy cells and puts the plasma rifle behind a secret and expects you to find it to deal with a cyberdemon that will block you if you dont

>>3519764
The enemy models are actually better than the Generations models, simply because they're based off the vanilla sprites. Could use more polys tho.

>>3519778
They fucking suck and are shit, period. There's nothing more retarded than going from 2d that works to 3d that's shit. And even worse than that is putting great 2d effects together with shitty 3d models.

>>3519404

Been working on a private mod for some friends to play.

>>3519782
Still, the YPOD models are (slightly) less retarded than the Risen3D ones, probably cos they don't look like stuff from a Digital Homicide game.

>>3519587
A garden-like corridor, put a secret zone to the north, and a window that allows you to see it from that corridor.

>>3519782
If john romero wasn't a useless piece of shit he could've LADAR scanned the clay originals (cyberdemon is definitely still intact, and some others)

But until risen3D gets skeletal animation support the models will still shuffle unconvincingly about like gerry anderson puppets

I remember there being a Minimap mod talked around here. It was based around generating a map image with software, then scrolling it around in the corner of player's view as he moves around with an ACS script.

Anybody knows what came out of it?

I posted this here already and got no replies.

I remember template colors were white lines on cyan background.

>>3519778
killing that poor thing'd be doing it a favour

>>3519807
Heres the thing tho. I dont NEED anythinig 3d in doom. I just want cool effects like blood spilling, supersymmetric ultradynamic coloured lighting, amd shit

Explosions in risen3d are shit by the way, fucking shit.

>>3519808
only very vaguely, wasn't it years ago ?

>>3519778
Axehead


Also any news on REKKR?

>>3519816
I'm one of those weirdos who prefers quake aesthetic to doom

doom will always have the advantage of slaughter maps though, thanks to sprites

>>3519404

>>3519818
No. Years ago there was a pull request for minimap into the base ZDoom. It was rejected for not being customizable enough.

The one im talking about is an ACS script, and was discussed a few weeks ago. I remember the guy getting incorrect movement due to not taking aspect correction into account, he fixed it, and then was discussing it for some more. After that I wasn't visiting much, so release or whatever was there slipped under my radar.

>>3519820
I'm not saying I prefer 3D, I'm just stating that the YPOD models are less dope than the Risen3D/Vavoom ones.

>>3519807
>But until risen3D gets skeletal animation support the models will still shuffle unconvincingly about like gerry anderson puppets

Low vertex accuracy 4lyf

>>3519692
oo neat

How do I git gud at Project MSX? Those goat imps wreck me too quickly.

>>3519850
Rifle/Pistol-Butt them. They always die in one or two hits.

what happened

>>3519891
hell froze over & came up to earth for warmth

>>3519907

Every time I see that hideous hud, I cringe at the thought that there are people who actually think it looks good.

>>3519920
My thoughts with Project MSX as a whole.

>>3519925
MSX is actually barable and not as clutered.

>>3519920
>>3519925
the jelly is real

How do you guys organize your doom shit? My doom shit is just such a mess.

Someone needs to make like an itunes for doom or something.

>>3519930
>HUD
>226 Mb

Kill it with plasma then glass the earth.

>>3519930
holy shit 200+ mb for a fucking hud

how horrifying

>>3519930
>222.46mb

WHAT THE FUCK

>>3519930

Every day we stray further and further from Carmack's love.

>>3519930
>almost 40k people downloaded this piece of shit

>>3519942
those 40k are probablty Halo kiddies that are used to this shit and think this is the norm

>>3519937

Pic related is how I organized my WADs and stuff.

>>3519937
Each source port has its own folder
All the IWADs go in one folder
PWADs are in the same folder as the source port executables for easy drag and drop, some have multiple copies if I want to play them in a different source port
Level sets are in uppercase while gameplay mods are in lowercase

>>3519951
What's the difference between a TC with no maps and a gameplay mod?

>>3519959

My reasoning is that if the mod essentially makes DOOM into a whole different game, it qualifies as a TC rather than a simple gameplay mod. Even if the maps are untouched.

Though, perhaps I should give my organization a touch up.

>>3519959
>>3519964

I should provide an example: I classify DemonSteele as a TC with the reasoning I mentioned, while I consider; to randomly pick a mod; Samsara as a gameplay mod because playing with Samsara still feels like DOOM, just with different characters.

>>3519964
>>3519970

Yeah, that's fair.

How do you 200 min speedmap well?

Has anyone ever beaten Doom using only a mouse?

>>3519606
fully agree, just like how the plasma rifle is a chaingun doing plasma things, or the rocket launcher is a shotgun doing shotgun things

>>3520008
Probably.

>mouse turning
>using mouse to move backwards and forward
>bind a button for mouse strafing (or if you have a tilting wheel, use that)
>bind left button as shoot
>bind right button as open
>bind mousewheel for selecting weapons
>always run, no time to stop
>using menu to save isn't really part of the actual gameplay so keyboard can still do that

It takes some getting used to I imagine, but it could likely be very smooth and fast.

>>3519930
>a lot of people have eaten a ~200Mb download for a single file so it must be good
memes

>>3520008
>>3520018
It's not that hard. My preference is:
> Mouse turning and forward/backwards movement
> Left button to shoot
> Right button for mouse strafing
> Mid button to move forward which is better than having to slide the mouse all the time.
> Mouse wheel for selecting weapons (IIRC that doesn't work on the vanilla executable, so you would still have to use the numbers in there).
>Double right mouse button to use/open (Yes, vanilla supports that).
>Menu stuff still requires a keyboard, yes.

>>3519405
old castle maybe
like, go rescue the mayor's daughter in the cultist-ridden manor/castle

>>3519405
time to rip textures like there's no tomorrow, start with kingpin

and don't forget to put fedoras onto ogres

>>3519930
Sp why it is so bloated?

How can I edit a mod so that weapon swapping is instant?

>>3520117
http://zdoom.org/wiki/A_Raise

>>3519179

What's a good spooky (mainly hell/medieval maps) megawad that doesn't devolve into a slaughterfest

>>3520117
Make A_Raise work in 0 tics.

>>3520131
Bloodstain has some medieval maps, and some really fucking good hell maps, it doesn't get very slaughtery except in a select few instances.

The gameplay of the .wad is kind of intended for you to use cover a lot though, so consider that.

>>3520139

Cool, I'll check it out. Thanks.

>>3520135
>>3520126
Got it working, thanks yall

>>3519706
Ooh, neato.

>>3519179
Any good megawads that are Plutonia level difficulty or lower on UV? I want to ease my way onto the harder ones like Sunlust and Ancient Aliens.

>>3520205
Alien Vendetta.

>>3519287
i found a hom in that map. while spectating the author playing it.

feels bad man!

>>3520207
Admittedly the late levels became too much for me to handle, but thanks anyway

>>3520214
Then you keep practicing until it clicks.

You won't be able to do Sunlust if you can't handle AV.

Shit level 2 of Sunlust is harder than AV.

>>3520008
I've done it once with a Razer/Belkin Nostromo.
Awhile back I had repetitive strain injury on my right wrist (not because computer stuff, but I work as a freighter and I constantly cut open boxes and grip things improperly), so it would hurt to use a mouse for a long time.

Had one of these lying around, gave it a go. It was okay.

>>3520271
e r g o n o m i c s

>>3520271
what the fuck is that.

>>3520273
I T ' S A L L I N Y O U R H A N D

>>3520276
That is one-fifth of a keyboard. Here is one-fourth.

The main appeal of these is supposed to be the ergonomics, but they're expensive as fuck and obviously won't replace a proper keyboard.

>>3520303
Doom memes

>>3520305

>>3520305
>>3520307
CHRISTIAN
BOARD

>>3520308
Fine, have some hugging

>>3519303
The Spider Mastermind looks kinda bad compared to the others. Pretty small, too.

>>3520305

>>3520319

According to http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Reaper_Miniatures it's supposed to be an arachnotron.

>>3520221
>Shit level 2 of Sunlust is harder than AV.

Huh? Level 2 of Sunlust is easy.

>>3519681
jesus fuck

>make mediocre but flashy mod years ago
>It's your most famous mod, and people want you to update it
>but you have no passion for it anymore

Getting into modding was a mistake

>>3520347
I wonder if Android/iOS devs think the same thing with their software

>>3520326
fuck, any more anon

So... Where's the guy who posted the risen3d webm?

>>3519716
play quake and the two official expansions, they're phenomenal.

>>3519716
You forgot ID's pol.

>find fun server
>everyone start leaving minutes into my arrival
>jump to another server and it happens again
It can't be coincidence

>>3519930
What people fail to realize is that the reason it is so big is because it has a shit load of files to make the hud compatible with other mods and a lot of other various shit

>>3519787
DoomPaint

>>3519787
Neat. Speaking of: what unconventional mods are out there for Z&? Like Who Dun It, or DoomPaint here? That sort of thing.

pic unrelated

So whats the story with hdoom anyway?

>>3520416
Someone wanted to make a Doom mod where you fucked the monsters instead of killing them and the monsters look like anime girls a bit. It's not much.

>>3520423
Did they make it?

>>3520416

I heard a story that it was designed as a response to Brutal Doom's ultra-violence, but I don't remember the details or even whether that's true.

>>3520427

I heard the same thing from Mike, he specifically wanted everything tongue in cheek and really lighthearted. That's why nobody dies, not even the protag, you just run out of stamina and pass out, same thing with the monster girls.

>>3519309

Pls tell me when that anon shows up

>>3519820

>>3519758

>>3519820
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/90862-rekkr-anyone-wanna-map-for-a-vanilla-tc/

>>3519435
Would you happen to mind sharing the sprites for the fire? Looking everywhere for something simple like that, but all I can find is ridiculous particle spam crap.

>>3520527
it's the flame on the firestorm pickup in hexen

>>3519695
I'm in that camp, but I play Doom more than either of those just because of the MASSIVE modding community. I mean Quake and Wolf3D aren't slouches either, but come on, Doom is the most modded game in history by far. So that's probably why I keep coming back to it.

But, yeah, I prefer Wolf and Quake to Doom, gameplay wise. Wolfenstein's high-octane hitscan action gets my heart pumping, and Quake's somber, dark, medieval, surreal worlds are a joy to lose myself in.

>>3520530
thanks bro

>>3520531
>I'm in that camp, but I play Doom more than either of those just because of the MASSIVE modding community.
i assumed he meant the original levels of the mentioned games. if you include user modifications of course doom will "win"

>>3520645
then why would he have mentioned wolf3d mods

let's make a quake mod

>>3520647
i suppose i read "Spearmpixsod with the Cosmetic Upgrade mod" as gameplay mods, not new levels. i'll go and kill myself now.

>>3520531
I don't enjoy the kind of maps Doom's community have been producing and the novelty of gameplay mods last shorter and shorter for me.

What I mainly enjoy about Wolf3D and Quake over Doom is the level design. I just find them more fair and balanced games. I hate having to save in the middle of a level and I hate dying in the middle because of some encounter that requires precognition to beat in a reasonable capacity. How do I know that running past a swarm of monsters teleporting in is the best choice when other similar encounters block the player's way out? Is staying put and holding your ground the best option? I only get the solution to such encounters right half the time and I usually feel cheated. MAP02 of Mutiny is a good example of a map that features such encounters and reminded me why I don't enjoy most user made maps.

Wolf3D only has one ammo type so you always know what to use and it doesn't have teleporter traps or monster closets. Even the weakest enemies are extremely deadly and are capable of killing the player in a couple seconds yet they are easy to anticipate. I enjoy tactical shooters and this game is the prototypical one.

Quake has four ammo types just like Doom, but their distribution is more even and predictable (thanks in part to Ogres dropping rocket ammo). I commonly hear from people that Quake is a lesser game than Doom because of its bulletsponges, but I can only assume that the only reason why people who say that have that kind of experience with the game is because they're still playing it like Doom--using the shotgun all the time and stockpiling rocket ammo. Quake's level design features most of the same tricks from Doom, monster closets, teleporter traps, crushers, etc. but the levels made with the game are just more fair than Doom's and the use of teleporters is more limited. These qualities are reflected in its user made maps, they feel fair and I never feel cheated when I die.

>>3520653
>I enjoy tactical shooters and this game is the prototypical one.
I'm so glad at last someone else here sees this.

>>3520667
Meant to quote >>3520663

>>3520663
>I commonly hear from people that Quake is a lesser game than Doom because of its bulletsponges, but I can only assume that the only reason why people who say that have that kind of experience with the game is because they're still playing it like Doom--using the shotgun all the time and stockpiling rocket ammo
I'd be willing to bet a big part of it is Doom players being surprised that Quake's super shotgun only does double-ish damage instead of the three times damage the Doom 2 SSG does (hence its usage as the go-to gun for EVERYTHING once you get it).

>>3520671
>being surprised that Quake's super shotgun only does double-ish damage instead of the three times damage the Doom 2 SSG
And doublish the damage of a pistol-role light shotgun at that.

>>3520679
To be fair, the standard shotgun is always useful, like when there's Scrags floating around out of SSG range and you don't want to use your nails/can't aim well enough to predict. I find myself using it way more often than Doom's pistol, at least.

>scar3crow: Why does Quake have nailguns rather than machineguns?
>John Romero: Because it's different :)
>scar3crow: That it is, and makes for more thrilling visuals in a deathmatch seeing a swarm of nails coming your way from a SNG wielding rival marine.
>John Romero: I think it came out of the fact that we had a huge Jesus mural on the wall so we thought it would be funny to just blast the nails into him.

>>3520695
Oh no, I didn't mean it wasn't useful at all. It's rapid fire and tight spread comes in handy a lot of times.

>>3520702
Romero's my favorite edgelord.

>>3520728

He's a cheeky edgelord. He's the kind that makes all of his edgy remarks with the biggest fucking grin.

>>3519681

>>3520728
>those rejected Doom exit quotes
Based Romero

>>3520347
What was it?

And it's okay to move on, your past work won't be who you are.

GMOTA Guy isn't just that GMOTA Gu-FUCK
I'm kidding of course

>>3520347
Are you the Dakka guy?

>>3520769

To be fair my other projects aren't as well recieved, look at combined_arms and blastmaster.

Though blastmaster was mainly me just going full retard and seeing what I could get away with under 64kb, a tech demo and me playing with the tools at my disposal. Gonna be recyling a lot of the code and ideas from that into other projects.

On the plus side I've been donating code and weapons to other projects too, DRLA's getting an altered version of the fists from Combined_Arms, and Term's making use of a removed projectile from GMOTA for the booty project

>>3520774
I thought Combined Arms was alright, only issue I had would be that despite the super shotgun replacement being alright it wasn't nearly as satisfying as the regular shotgun.

I think all you'd need to get well received is just playing it like GMOTA:
>Satisfying weapons
>Good music
>Fun enemies
>Don't go full retard like Zharkov or something
Not even saying something like Zharkov goes to the store is bad, just it's only something that is played for a little bit then left alone after the joke wears off.

That's what I got when my friends played it at least.

Unrelated note, is Hideous Destructor multiplayer compatible?

>>3520778

I'm genuinely flattered you like the monsters and weapons. Though I'm gonna tweak some of the monsters slightly to make them more managable in melee, because right now Hellfos are fucking shitbastards in melee because of that dagger spam I gave them.

I might make Chaos revenants spin less too, but I don't want to mess with those guys too much because they're a 12 out of 10 on the fun scale.

>>3520778

HD does have some support for multiplayer, but I don't know how well it works.

No Zandronum compatibility though, so I hope you can make ZDoom's netcode sing.

>>3520781
I have no idea how to make it run in multiplayer but it would be nice.

>>3520780
I still play GMOTA quite a bit and am really looking forward to the next update with all those new weapon attacks.

Just seeing the new thrown sword in that last webm alone looked nice.

>>3520774
Combined_Arms is one of my favorite gameplay mods ever.

A bit of fluff, but I got the character selection looking pretty nice.

>>3520783
zdoom mp is really limited but works well enough most of the time
>open port 5029 in udp
>load wads in ZDL in multiplayer
>send your ip to your buddy, tell him to load the same wads (in the same order) and join using ZDL
and it should work
save often, desynch is your bane

>>3520798
the "random" bothers me when there's just two options as we have something more precise for that (a coin flip) but that's probably just me sperging out

Whats wrong with UDV? i think it looks nice

>>3519778
All doomguys coat their arms in Vaseline. It's handy for when you have to punch your arm up an imp's ass.

Is there a use for argent cores in Metadoom yet? I'm sitting on six of them and unsure how to use them.

>>3520873
Argent Cores is just BFG ammo.

>>3520205
Reverie

Anyone have any good centered sprites for a 9mm SMG and some kind of battle rifle?

>>3519525
[No]

>>3520887
Does an MP40 count

>>3520895
It could.

Anything in 9mm and used with two hands.

>>3520887
Grab the one from Rise of the Triad, perhaps?

>>3520798
How did you go about creating the space background?

>>3520909
Maybe.

I want to put a silencer on it too, and for it to be visibly distinct from not using a silencer, perspective matters a bit.

What are some GOOD-ASS atmospheric spooky mods that don't have jumpscares.

>>3520941
Unloved.

>>3520941
Nihilism.
Strange Aeons.

>>3520910
Which part? If you're talking about behind the selection screen, that's the TITLEMAP which has a skybox for the fancy space shenanigans. If you're talking about the selection screen itself, that's mostly fancy brushes and gradients.

>>3520941

AAAAAAAAAAAAA I CAN SEE HIS SKELETON

>>3520957
Release when anon my dick has been twitching uncontrollably on its own for days.

>>3520957
I mean, the pixely space part.

>>3520941
>cyberlegs level 1

why are my guns invisible in D4D?

Are there any superhero themed gameplay mods?

>>3521047
nevermind, used a more recent gzdoom version and it got fixed.

>>3521050
Of course not, that would be stupid

So what's the secret to using Oblige and not getting retarded levels?

>>3521068
You're no fun.

>>3521079
Not using it, and instead playing human created levels.

Honestly, I've played better maps in D!Zone than the crap that OBLIGE produces.

>>3521079
Get 7, idk what they did but its much better.

>>3521079
Trial and error.

>>3521079
>>3521091
Strangely, it says "For Doom and Heretic" on the tin, but I can't find "Heretic" game on the menu.

It can generate some decent bits and pieces. Definitely not the worst thing ive seen, mileas ahead 90% of showelvare disks (other 10% being renown maps being put on the shovel)

>tfw hdoom is like three years old now
>tfw you remember mike showing off the first animations in this thread

>tfw it's still unfinished as fuck

>>3521169
OBLIGE can produce decent looking aesthetics. The problem is the gameplay. Theres no real structure to it, other than "populate the sectors". If you want some mindless fun, thats okay. But I will never accept the notion that its better than the gameplay found in 90% of shovelware maps.

>>3521221
Most shovelware maps do much worse job "populating the sectors", especially compared to 7.45 version that sets up teleport ambushes, monster closets, guards for the key items and switches, etc.

>>3521245
I've played a LOT of D!Zone and Maximum Doom, and I'm telling you right now, OBLIGE is no better in the gameplay side of things.

Is there anything similar to quake injector for doom?

>sergeants are the most dangerous enemy in D4D besides the spiderdemon and cyber, even chaingunners and archviles are jokes now compared to them
How did that happen?

>>3521320
Whats d4d?

>>3521360
Doom(4) for Doom.

>>3520663
>I hate having to save in the middle of a level and I hate dying in the middle because of some encounter that requires precognition to beat in a reasonable capacity.
you sound like a pussy

>>3521368
What's the drill?

>>3521169
only really old versions (up to 4.28 ) handle heretic (and others), but they're really, really rough

>>3520663
I don't find myself being ''cheated'' if the map's well done, which is most of the time for my picks, because you'll have the bfg by the time the large group of archviles pop up.

Monster randomizer mods and ones that involve player progress like Doom RPG make it so that replayability lasts a ton for each wad. I don't feel that way for Quake or Wolf3D.

So blue

>>3521446
Wad? I love blue

Red

>>3521449
Japanese Doom Community Project

It's really only that one part of this level though.

>>3520663
>I hate dying in the middle because of some encounter that requires precognition to beat in a reasonable capacity. How do I know that running past a swarm of monsters teleporting in is the best choice when other similar encounters block the player's way out? Is staying put and holding your ground the best option? I only get the solution to such encounters right half the time and I usually feel cheated.

From my understanding, you hate it when maps are unpredictable?

>>3521470

>>3521295

Doom Injector.
That's about it.

>>3521515
>Doom Injector
no such thing

>>3521379
you sound like you throw a fit everytime people argue about enemy balance, which makes this post extra amusing.

>>3521547

Pardon, Doom Launcher.

>>3520663
>Quake
>fair

Remember the shambler out of nowhere on hard in E1M3? And the SECOND shambler that spawns right after should you defeat the first one?

>>3521616
>on hard
hm.

>>3521616
that shouldn't even pose a threat at all unless you made a run straight for the exit

besides shamblers are hardly that difficult

you also have like, two perfectly fine pillars to take cover behind

I was thinking about getting a Piko Interactive copy of Duke Nukem for Mega Drive, but the $30 for a stripped down version of Episode 2 is way too much.
I guess I'll just stick with Zero Tolerance.

What are some essential /a/core wads?

Is there a mod that lets you play with the Doom 2016 soundtrack or did I just imagine that existing at some point?

>>3521664
DemonSteele

>>3519695
>Currently playing Spearmpixsod with the Cosmetic Upgrade mod and shit is fun.

You might be able to help me; what should I be using to play Wolf3D and what mods are available?

(there needs to be a "so you want to play wolf 3D" image in the OP...)

>>3521664
Swan Fox

>>3521664

Radys Class, or whatever it was called.

>>3521681
Doom4Doom?

>>3521694
>Hey devs when are you adding executions?
>you know the most surprisingly fun aspect of Doom 4?
>what do you mean never?
>what do you mean it's not a very "Doom" thing?
>what do you mean "just play Doom 4 then, faggot"?
Why would anyone make a Doom 4 gameplay mod and leave out one of the most important aspects of the Doom 4 gameplay?

>>3521681
There was one bundled with Merser's BD sprites pack. But it kind of sucked imo, because, in true Doom 2 fashion, he choose the worst song for MAP01, and some of the songs aren't even from Doom 2016. It's just some generic ass metal tracks

>>3521470
I think good level design requires a certain amount of predictability; it's the way the player can make meaningful tactical decisions in playing a level. If a map were totally unpredictable, then that would remove decision-making in a map and reduce it only to player skill and trial-and-error.

When it comes to teleporter traps, there's generally only two ways a player can best deal with them which I have already described. They're only unpredictable in so far as that you often can't tell what the correct choice is between the two. Picking the wrong one leads to frustration, and picking the correct one only makes me feel lucky.

I've been using the GLDEFS skybox implementation. Am I correct that I do not need to compose anythong in the map editor, so long as I only want to use the GLDEFS sky?

If I want to use weather in the skybox, do I need to do that in the GLDEFS lump in Slade?

>>3521726
To their credit, the glory kills thing doesn't work so well with sprites. Anything more complex than the punch/kick-only glory kills doesn't look good at all.

>>3521734
>Picking the wrong one leads to frustration, and picking the correct one only makes me feel lucky.

Pic very much related

>>3521726
>>3521726
People don't like executions, if you want that just play Brutal Doom. The ammo drop kill thing is still there, it's the chainsaw's alt fire and requires fuel.

>>3521664
Demonsteele (good), Doom Radys (difficult to find), Swan Fox (awful but fun to play through with mates), Black Warrior (fun but what the fuck is happening)

>>3521749
>>3521691
>>3521687
>>3521685
>>3521664

Don't forget Psychic and Stranger, the original cool weebweapons

Though Stranger has not aged well at all

Is there a best of Oblige maps pack?

>>3521745
>comparing D44M's execution to Brutal Doom

Doom 4's last half a second (less with an upgrade) and offer a slight item bonus rewarding you for going out of your way to do it

Brutal Doom's last at least anywhere from 5 to 15 seconds long, are in 3rd person so you "see all its glory" grant you invulnerability for the entire duration of the exection, the ability to still shoot midanimation, instant heal AND has a retarded voice in some of them.

>>3521760
Make your own mod then. It's no one's obligation to cater to you.

But I agree, Brutals executions are kinda retarded once you get past their initial "cool" factor.

>>3521760
>Brutal Doom's last at least anywhere from 5 to 15 seconds long

I know you really hate Brutal Doom, but don't need to lie about it.

>>3521734
>I think good level design requires a certain amount of predictability; it's the way the player can make meaningful tactical decisions in playing a level. If a map were totally unpredictable, then that would remove decision-making in a map and reduce it only to player skill and trial-and-error.

A certain amount of unpredictability is equally as important, though. It requires the player to keep on their guard, and actually think about the many possibilities of what could happen next. Maps that are too predictable can make for very mundane gameplay after you've figured out the one strategy, and lessens the need to really put any thought into playing anymore.

>>3521786

It's not too far an exaggeration, especially in previous builds when they weren't sped up.

>>3521792
>the mod still is shit because it had a bad design decision that was removed several years ago.

>>3521801
>removed
Slightly less shit is still shit

>>3521745
Depends, some games do them well.

Like in Far Cry 3, where you can do a quick stealth kill on a low level mook who hasn't noticed you (or, if you're fast enough, you could sprint over and stab him before he has the chance to call for help or raise his gun), they'd be pretty fast, typically, taking about a second on average.
There was also special variants and methods, allowing you do double ones, drag someone down from beneath a ledge, pull the pin of a grenade in their belt, to do a stealth-kill on a big and armored mook, or do a successive chain of stealth kills for as long as there were close-by and blissfully unaware mooks (I think I once managed five or six in one go, which is kickass because the game rewards you for longer chains of those kills)

But basically, it was a game where you had special kill animations which fit, and didn't bring the flow of the game to a grinding halt, because nothing stops you from immediately do your next move afterwards.

I have yet to play Doom 4, but from what I recall from the E3 demo, the kills looked reasonably brief, as well as being optional (them being an opportunity to be rewarded for doing something that can be more dangerous, which I think is a good thing for a videogame)

I remember BD had really annoying and drawn out animations, feeling like more trouble than they're worth, and having short-lived novelty.

>>3521741
Left is always the answer to those puzzles.

>>3521807
Is that some kind of unspoken Doom mapper rule?

>>3521806
Unlike nuDoom, BD provides enough ammo on early game and doesn't forces you to use this feature if you don't like it.

Are there any mods that recreate levels/worlds from other (non Doomclone) games?
Like, say, the Resident Evil 1 mansion? Silent Hill? Halo?

>>3521812
Nah.

>>3521819
IIRC, a level designer from Bioshock recreated two levels from that game (Arcadia and Farmer's Market) into Doom.

>>3521819
I'm pretty sure I've seen someone create atleast some of the rooms from RE's mansion in doom before, but I can't remember where. It was on youtube, but I can't find it. I did find this though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouug3GnYahc

>>3521801

I said nothing of the sort. I think you may have me confused with someone else, anon.

>>3521786
>>3521801
god damn brutal babbies are so defensive

>>3521836
At least they don't make up stuff to defend the mod.

>>3521819
Hamplanets aside, BMI is kind of a flawed metric and should be used only as a general pointer, given that a person who's a bodybuilder can genuinely be considered to be obese if they happen to match the height and weight of someone who's actually just a fatass.

>>3521787
No shit.

>>3521826
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/a-c/arcadia here it is

>>3521845
Clearly its not a case of "no shit" to some players here.

>>3521840

You innocent little man, either blind or ignorant.

>>3521760
>Doom 4's last half a second
Yeah right, maybe with the upgrade they are that short but they are pretty damn long without it. It always takes me by surprise how slow the glory kills are without savagery, totally kills the pace of the game (same with in-flight mobility not being a built in feature)

>>3521852
You're talking to the wind, buddy.

>tfw every wad you try is fun until the 4th or 5th map when you start getting swarmed by revenants and archvilles

>>3521945
>having fun in a wad
>turns into boring slaughter maps once you hit map 21 or something

Would you fuck Doomguy?

>>3521970
I want him to fuck my butt hard.

>>3521970
if he was genderbent maybe

>>3521983
This is not okay. Doomguy is a guy

GUY

>>3521983
No

>>3521983
I'd rather Crash desu

>>3521970
Is this a rhetorical question?

>>3521970
FUCK YOURSELF

>>3520347
Hey, at least you don't post a mod that is super flashy, smooth and all sorts of badass and then disappear from this dimension. :v)

>>3521983
Why isn't she wearing any pants?

>>3522020
Because only Knights and higher ranking demons are allowed to wear pants.

Nothing to do with my inability to draw good looking pants no siree.

>>3522015
The pain is too real.

>>3522035
I embraced it. Project MSX as of right now, is the most complete mod, gameplay-wise, i feel like it should be forgotten as of now, its showing its age and people are starting to point out some big flaws (such as multitasking, you have to take care of your regenerating shield, reloading weapons, the grenades, the powersuit abilities (dash, highjump, charges), medikits and the shield boosts. The gameplay eventually falls into a flow that people can't handle without having brain pain)
And this also applies to other mod i'd like to call the sister mod of project msx, crossfire [http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=36667]. Mod is about as fast-paced as MSX (just because of monsters jumping out of their nests and swarming you from the other side of your map) and it also suffered the same fate of an author leaving the mod forgotten for whatever reason.

So yeah, embrace the pain, its better that way-

>>3521842
ah yes the ole "maybe i'm just a secret bodybuilder" gambit

>>3522056
I just wish the fucking goat imps weren't so OP.

>>3522056
>Main gameplay features are big flaws

>>3522026
Admit it, you wanted fanservice points.

>>3522056
>MSX
>Brain pain
What?

The only thing people complained about was it being incomplete or about the regenerating shield and HUD.

Nobody said it was complex, it's simple and easy enough to play.

Crossfire was much harder to manage because there's no actual safety net and the guns suck

>>3522098
Yeah.

>>3522116
>Eager beaver
L-Lewd

>>3522056
As far as gameplay mods go, Project MSX is rather simple.

>>3521686
I made a starter pack
https://mega.nz/#!ikVlQBpQ!AtTZGvnFZgw_I96tsaOK-dbyLf6Usps1nVjLSdxUGz8

Here's a pastebin of the included readme to give you an idea of what's in it
http://pastebin.com/mRmhVWce

>>3521985

>>3522162
My favorite genderbent Doomguy by far.

>>3522162
she's perfect

>>3522162
aww yea

Friendly reminder that filling a map (especially the first map) with nothing but chaingunners and revenants doesn't make it a hard map, just a shitty one. Looking at you, BTSX Episode 2

>>3522182
BTSX Episode 2 is a continuation of the first one.

The difficulty kept going upward from the previous episode.

Try looking at it from that angle and it makes sense why they just threw a bunch of cunts at you so early on.

Episode 3 is most definitely going to be harder.

>Hitler was never a secret enemy in any Doom game where he tries to take vengeance on BJ's great great grandson

Is there any mod where I can fight Hitler in hell?

>>3522251

Bratwurst?

>>3521813
glory kills are entirely optional, though

>>3522251
That Cyberdemon in Grosse should've been Mecha Hitler. There were already too many Cyberdemon fights in Doom 2.

>>3521813
The only time in Doom 4 where you'd be low on ammo is right when you get the shotgun.

Seriously, after level 1 you have so much ammo always that you actually can't run out unless you have Polygon's aiming skills. And that's before they give you the chainsaw.

And in level 1 ammo issues go away after the second fight with the shotgun.

Each playthrough I ran in Doom 4 was without glory kills and I only used the chainsaw about two or three times since I was afraid I'd run out of fuel for it if I ever needed ammo.

Now I just say fuck it, saw a zombie and all my ammo is stocked up for the whole level.
It's nuts how little ammo issues there is.

>>3522273
yeah, it's not like the low ammo cap did anything to mend it either

at least it's nowhere near as bad as it was in Doom 3

>>3522264

Flat-out putting Hitler in the easter egg would've guaranteed Doom 2 to be banned forever in Germany.

I have no idea how laws work there though so take my opinion with a small grain of salt.

>>3522290
I'm pretty sure even so much as having a reference to the SS and the swastika will render your game illegal to sell in germany, so those 2 levels were cut out in the german version.

>>3522290
It's true. Anything that has Nazi imagery in it is banned. It's only recently even that Doom became not illegal to actually play in Germany.

>>3522290

They already made a special version of the game for Germany that had the Wolfenstein levels cut though. Couldn't they have just cut Hitler, too?

>>3522290
weren't RTCW and TNO sold in Germany?

>>3522302
Yes but censored.

>>3522302
TNO dances around by never mentioning SS or Hitler directly.

How can you lower the menu so you can preview crosshairs before you pick them?

>>3522323
do you seriously find it troublesome to press escape three times just to find out

>>3522323
Use console commands to swap crosshairs.

I decided to continue working on a meme wad I started back in 2009/2010 and then accidentally deleted and am now rebuilding. I want you guys' help for suggestions on what new stuff to add to it.

So far what it has planned:

Monsters:
Moot: The new player character.
WTSnacks: The final boss like the 4chan city flash.
Rick James: A demon with the sound pallet changed to clippings from the Dave Chapelle show.
"Sneaky Weegee": A weegee that is completely invisible and makes no sound until it attacks with it's spaghetti.
Furries: Basic enemy like the zombiemen. Some melee only will try to assrape you.

Power Ups:
"Shoop da Whoop": Shoots a high powered laser beam for a short duration and will violently disintegrate most enemies.
Rickroll: Creates a dancing hologram of Rick Astley that distracts most enemies.

Weapons:
Pingas: Replaces the fist.
Spaghetti: Replaces the chainsaw. Whips a noodle repeatedly to keep the same effect as the chainsaw. I may try to make it like a grappling hook for alternate fire mode.

What else should I do?

>>3521739
Yeah, pretty much. D4D felt a bit off-kilter without them for the short time I spent playing it, though. That, and all the movement options for maps and AI that can't utilize them properly. Doom 4 gameplay is probably best kept to Doom 4 because of the verticality and the way the movement and AI works with said verticality. It'd be a smoother transition to add the gameplay to Quake rather than Doom 1/2.

That said, here's how I'd handle glory kills:
-Melee button, D4D already has this I think? I didn't play it much
-Add the flashing, stunned low health state from Doom 4
-Melee does its usual thing but does a forceful punch/kick animation if attacking a stunned enemy and makes the enemy gib in a flashy way if it connects, since that's all it really needs to be satisfying (Would've loved for an early rune in D4 to replace glory kills with exactly this, honestly)

>>3522336
Cancel it and work on something else.

>>3522336
>moot
>snacks
Get with the times you geezer.
What's next, cockmongler and happy negro? TWINKIE HOUSE?

>>3522336
A lot of that stuff would be seen as terrible outdated nowadays, even among those who would've otherwise found it funny.

>>3522339
>>3522342
>>3522343
Alright I will cancel it.

>>3520774
I think Combined Arms does have a few weird traits, especially the SSG replacement running on cells and needing the Ripper to get more with a ranged attack at no cost, but overall it's a pretty okay package with fun ideas.

>>3521664
From the last thread. Most fun i've ever had, even it's practically a TC now.

I am now addicted to Demonsteelse's crazy fast running and double-jumping, to the point that I'm contemplating forking it into a separate mod to use with other weapon mods (Let me know if one already existed).

>>3520351
Everyday. Back when Android was new I made a little app that is just a toggle button on blackscreen that powers on your camera's flash until you toggle it off.

WHY WON'T YOU LEAVE ME ALONE PEOPLE. Worst thing is how few phones it is compatible with given the years and yet I still get a stray email.

I'd love to get into Doom/Quake modding though.

>>3521664
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/m-o/otakondm

New hit effects, need to find something for the big swipe though, and I have no idea where the fuck to find it.

>>3520402
nice try. half the file size is an ambient mp3.

>>3522470

after the shit I've seen for the past five years I'm inclined to believe you but I'm going to need a confirmation of that anyway

>>3522462
Those hit effects look more like your sword's bouncing or deflecting off the enemy (i.e. their armour or shield) rather than hitting them. To me at least.

>>3522482

Can't make the hit effect red though, then it'd look really weird when you hit skeletons and armors

>>3522182
I did a search for chaingunners and revenants in BTSX E2M01 on gzdoom builder. There are 40 chaingunners, and 12 Revenants, and if I exclude the multiplayer only ones, then there are 30 Chaingunners, and 8 Revenants. And when I look at the total monsters on SP UV in a source port, it comes up with 180 in prboom+ and 192 in zdoom (because it counts lost souls). The combined 38 of the Chaingunners and Revenants isn't even a quarter of either of those totals. Hardly what I'd call "nothing but chaingunners and revenants".

>>3522478

>>3522483
I'm not referring to the colour.

>>3522486

jesus fucking christ

I think I woke my 2-month old brother with the deep sigh I just made

>>3522486
What?

>>3522501

>filename

>>3522470
>>>>>>mp3
fuck me in the sinuses

>>3522486
My fucking sides.

>>3522509
Now imagine if it was a FLAC file

>doom 4's hellknight uses a pissed off cheetah roar
it's the little things

>>3522182
I am so sick of this bitching and moaning towards certain enemies. And it's especially obnoxious when they pull the "its not hard" card while doing so, like I'm supposed to be impressed that an apparently skilled player manages to still get annoyed by the same exact enemies so many goddamn times.

>>3522486
are you supposed to load all of those at once? i don't get it