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So my wife's son and I popped this in on a whim and are enjoying the hell out of it. Any thoughts on this series? Is this the best one?

>> No.3511183

bump for interest

>> No.3511189

1 and 2 were pretty good.


Liked 2 more than 1

>> No.3511197

2 is the best one. 3 just doesn't keep the charm on the upgrade to Saturn, also Shining Force 3 American version is just shining force 3:part 1 of 3 and parts 2 and 3 weren't released in America ever.

>> No.3511207

>>3510094
1 is the best one. Story is told better, doesn't have rando battles.
2 is still pretty great, but some quirks annoy me (like ALL CAPS NAMES, TOM CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL)

>> No.3511251

>>3510094
yes best one. The others are really good too.

>> No.3511346

I loved the Shining series as a kid.

SHF2 is more open and feels a bit more epic and RPGish than the first one, the first one is more linear and thus a bit more combat focused. Arguably the art direction is much better in the first though. They are both definitely worth playing.

SHF3 makes the transition to 3D and is a matter of taste if you think thats good. If I try to take off the nostalga goggles I guess SHF3 is the best of the series and I think most of the fan community would agree. Unfortunately, only the first of thre 'episodes' was released in the west. Not sure how far the fan patch is. SHF3 has a pretty amazing and complex storyline.

There are also a bunch of spin-off games that are worth playing, like Shining in the Darkness and Shining The Holy Ark if you like dungeon crawlers.

Stay away from anything that was released after SHF3. It has nothing to do with the original series anymore and SEGA is just trying to make a quick buck while raping its corpse and shitting on its legacy.

>> No.3511356

>>3510094

also:
>my wife's son

u dun goofed

>> No.3511373 [DELETED] 

3 > 1 > CD > 2

Didn't really care for most of the characters in 2 tbqh.

>> No.3511389

>not "stepson"
I have plenty I could contribute to this thread but I'm hiding it instead

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>>3511356

>> No.3511991

Anyone played the GBA remake of 1? Is it better?

>>3511346
Thanks for the info.

>> No.3512000

>>3511991
>Anyone played the GBA remake of 1? Is it better?
Not really, the new graphics look awful and the additions don't really improve the game.

>> No.3512003

>>3511389
>adopting a kid that isnt yours so if she leaves you have to pay

Nope.

>> No.3512051

>>3511346
The translation on 3 is done.

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>>3510094
>retard tier bait

>> No.3512321

>>3512315
And you took it ;)
What does that make you?

A...

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>>3512321

>> No.3512403

>>3512003
>I don't know what a stepson is

>> No.3512439

>>3510094

Shining Force are the only tactics games I''ve ever liked. 2 is my favorite of the series

>> No.3512480

>my wife's son
Way to get cuck'd you faggot

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>>3511346
>SHF3 has a pretty amazing and complex storyline.

You are very right. The only thing I had a problem with is this fucking paladin that is on auto control. He sometimes freezes the game, not even Dormaic or Rogen froze.

>> No.3513987

>>3510094
Debatable. Though the first 3 are all incredible regardless.

For straight up gameplay, first is best.
For a better blend of story and gameplay, SFII is your boy. Though battles will feel somewhat annoying as fuck until you promote and demolish everything.

Can't hold an opinion on III because I don't own it, but from what I've heard, it's got best story. A shame it was never officially translated.

While I'm at it, I would pay top fucking dollar for a Shining Force Collection containing the 7 main Shining Games: I, II, III, CD, Final Conflict, Darkness and Holy Ark.

>> No.3514031

>>3511991

I played the remake, the new characters are overpowered as shit and the "card system" is overpowered as well. Even if you ignore these things the new graphics are pretty shitty as well. The consensus is pretty much that the original is better.

One good thing I will say about it though. They add some backstory to the characters you use in battle.

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>>3510094

Oh man Shining Force thread? I love the hell out of this series. All the mainline ones are good, and the dungeon crawlers are pretty cool too if you're into that. Even the Zelda knockoff isnt so bad (Shining Wisdom).

3 is probably my favorite. In a way I'm kinda glad the series died off, because in my mind they could never surpass 3. It has a translation patch now but I actually bought a gameshark and the jap versions of the game and read a script online to play the 2nd and 3rd parts of the game.

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>>3510094
2 is an excellent game, but I like CD better personally.

>> No.3514493

Have you guys tried the GG SF games. They are very good.

>> No.3514515

>>3514493
CD is an enhanced remake of them (except Final Conflict which purportedly isn't so hot anyway), so it seems like CD is just the thing to play instead of the GG tactics games.

>> No.3514523

>>3514457
Incredible soundtrack

>> No.3515497

>>3514457

I need to give this a try again. I started playing it and its really cool. It has a lot of the graphics and UI from Shining Force 2, so you can tell they made these games right before. I got bored a little ways through though.

Also its weird that theres like 10 seconds of silence before any of the music loops in the battle themes. I guess you can just chalk that up to them not knowing what they were doing with the Sega cd?

>> No.3515520

>>3510094

"Wife's son" sounds weird. He's your kid, dude.

Anyway, the series is fun but I hate the box art. If I was a teen in the 90s that wouldn't attract me.

>> No.3515531

This series got such based US boxart. One of the few times I enjoy the super westernized art.

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>>3510094
Biggest challenge is getting that stupid fucking turtle to be useful at any point in the game.

Feed him 1hp enemies. Waste items pumping his stats.

Still fucking rotten end game.

>> No.3515572

>>3515539
You're meant to cast Boost on him and use him to tank physical users.

>> No.3515637

>>3515572
>use him to tank physical users.
No shit, anon.
Why are you assuming that people have the wrong idea?
No one is using him wrong, Kiwi is just shit.

>> No.3515650

>>3515637
You also forget his promoted form is a -flyer- that benefits from land effect and can actually take a hit. That's why the Bird Battlers are so fragile; they get no land effect benefit and fuck-all durability.

>> No.3515652

>>3515650
>You also forget his promoted form is a -flyer- that benefits from land effect and can actually take a hit.
Holy shit, just stop projecting.

>> No.3515656

>>3515652
You're just mad because you try to make him take on mages. Keep rattling those tits.

>> No.3515716

>>3515656
Kiwi is bad at tanking
To begin with, tanking isn't that efficient because enemies can just walk around Kiwi.
Then there are mages that can kill Kiwi in one attack, and they are very common later in the game.
Kiwi also is possibly the worst damager in the game.
That's not bad only because other characters do the tank/attack job better, but also because attacking is the only way Kiwi can earn EXP, and he sucks at it.

Kiwi can't tank half of the enemy groups
Kiwi won't always tank the other half
Kiwi won't deal a good amount of damage
Kiwi won't propperly level up because of that

Oh, but he moves fast, right? And there's that fire critical hit once in a blue moon.

>> No.3516642

>>3515716

Eh have to agree with this guy. Kiwi is kind of shit. Sure his defense will be so high he'll only take 1 damage from physical attacks, but by endgame not only are there a lot of mages, but most physical enemies get special breath/crit attacks that do set amounts of damage. It is cool that he can fly and take advantage of land effect but that can't save him.

>> No.3516652

>>3515520
>t. cuck

>> No.3516992

>>3510094

>my wifes son

He's your son now anon.

>> No.3517005

>>3516992
>>3515520
I actually don't have a son.
I did it for the yous. >_>

Don't hate me. I am a man, not a monster.

Look into your hearts. Can you not find in yourselves an inclination to the same?

>> No.3517012

>>3517005
Don't ever speak to me, or my wife's son EVER AGAIN.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39Yogd_fpko

>> No.3517379

>>3510094
>So my wife's son and I

bait. learn to spot bait people.

>> No.3517386

>>3515520
>>3516992

welcome to 4chan

>> No.3517392 [DELETED] 

type of game is that