/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3504230
It's incredibly difficult if you play with Luigi or the princess. Yes, the princess. She's a good character if you want to minimize deaths to bottomless pits, but she takes forever to dig and pick up objects. This forces you to synchronize your movements to avoid the jabs of the shy guy or THE MASK.
As for Luigi, I don't know. I can't get around with him. As a kid I enjoyed playing with Luigi because I liked how he jumped. Then I got to the latter levels and it became a literal hell.

I never found SMB2 to be particularly difficult.

>it makes me incredibly nervous when the masks chase me

That's fucking funny. Happens to me too.

>>3504230

I've never met anybody who considers SMB2 easier than 1 or 3

it's the hardest SMB game and that's an indisputable fact

not counting lost levels/jap smb2 you know what I mean

>>3504323
I'm surprised you find it most difficult with those two, especially the princess. I always thought it was easiest with her since you can not only skip most of the platforming elements but sometimes the levels themselves. She's almost the equivalent of using the cape in SMW.

Toad is hard mode. Luigi you can skip whole sections and get to level skips easier.

>>3505194
I can beat smb2jp, but this game is a total nightmare for me

>>3504230

SMB2 is definitely more strategic than the other Mario games. It really helps to know which character is best for which level.

For example, on those sand levels, Mario is good but Toad rocks. Just remember:

>dig extra holes and let the shyguys fall into them
>the sniffits jump as they shoot bullets, so if you dig fast, you just go past each other
>pluck the cherries; getting a starman helps here (it can even kill phanto)
>When you grab the key, phanto starts chasing you; he goes away if you drop the key
>On the sand levels, it's super easy: when you get the key, throw it onto the sand layer above your head and then crouch and jump under the key; keep doing this and you'll push the key up without ever having to lift it and trigger phanto coming after you

SMB2USA is literally the hardest game ever doki'd.

The game you are talking about is called Super Mario USA. What kind of idiot still calls it Super Mario Bros. 2, in 2016? Do you also call Final Fantasy 4 Final Fantasy 2, and 6 3? You were lied to, but the Internet is widespread enough now that you should use the correct names.

I find this game very easy. Even some newer Mario games like 3D World have more of a challenge than SMB2US to me. It might be because I've beaten it several times before though. The last few levels be a nightmare if you don't know where to go, but once you know where to go there's very little danger other than the Birdo.

As a kid I never made it more than ten minutes into the game because those masks are unkillable afaik.

Reminder that Super Mario Bros. 2 is in fact an edited version of Doki Doki Panic.

>>3505231
>Toad is hard mode
No
Toad is best character
Not jumping high actually helps you in the Birdo fights, as well as being able to instantly pick things up.

>>3505741
Calm down

>>3505758

Just throw the key along with you instead of carrying it, the masks become a non-issue then.

World 3 is also damn hard

Any segment with bombs drove me nuts, since they give you a very limited number.

>>3505741
>The game you are talking about is called Super Mario USA.

Shouldn't it be Doki Doki Panic (USA ver) if you want to get really technical?

>>3505209
>She's almost the equivalent of using the cape in SMW.

Totally disagree. She only stays a few seconds in the air, while the cape can be exploited to keep you flying without ever going down. Her skill only helps on horizontal segments (when precision isn't a requirement) and the game is full of vertical rooms. Also, it barely has any difficult (horizontal) platforming elements anyway, except for World 4. The main challenge of the game comes from the underground / indoor levels.

>>3504230
It's easy if you pick the princess since she can fly over most obstacles, namely those waterfalls which can get crazy later on. She picks up stuff slowly so just make sure you're in the clear. With anyone who you have to time your jumps correctly with it would be significantly harder.

>>3505741
Pretty much everyone except Japanese people and fat white nerds call this Mario 2.

Playing as Peach or Luigi makes the game babby mode.

Real champs solo run with Toad.

>digging in the sand difficult

Literally super easy, and tedious

Just dig as much as you can, and when you see shyguys catching up to you, go to the other side of the screen and dig there, rinse and repeat, the Shyguys will never touch you.

I love Mario 2. I'm sick to death of hearing trivia about it though. Also wish Nintendo would use elements from Mario 2 a little more often.

>>3505741
You are so wrong. I'm not even going to explain why because fuck you, you're hopeless.

>>3505741
What a disgusting hipster faggot.
Even Miyamoto considers it to be the true Super Mario Bros 2.
Lost levels was a mistake.

>>3505767
The birdo fights are so easy though. When you're the princess you can just hover in one place until it shoots an egg. Even when you have to use blocks the fights are trivial, as you can easily evade the fire balls or find a safe haven and wait to attack.

Bring able to pick up things quick is helpful yes, but it's even easier to just jump and hover over everything

>>3505790
You can call it that or SMB2U if you want, at least that makes it clear you aren't talking about Super Mario Bros. 2. It is pretty funny to see people claim that Super Mario Bros. 2 is not a "true" sequel for being a so-called "ROM hack" when Super Mario USA is far closer to being one. The decision to use Mario characters was made purely to sell more by using recognizable characters despite the game having nothing to do with Mario besides being a side-scrolling platformer produced by Miyamoto, which isn't saying much considering he actually directed and designed Super Mario Bros. 2 along with Tezuka. SMB2 didn't get released in the West because Americans suck at video games. For some reason nostalgiafags or idiots still don't understand that.

>>3506129
>I'm not even going to explain why because fuck you
It's because you can't (because I am right).

>>3506146
The game you refer to as "Lost Levels" is in fact named Super Mario Bros. 2. Get it right.
>Even Miyamoto considers it to be the true Super Mario Bros 2.
>Source: my delusional arse

>>3506283

>>3506295
>too similar
Is that what delusional Americans believe? It's because it was deemed too hard for casual Westerners. Super Mario Bros. 2 isn't very similar to the first game, it looks different visually despite using the same engine, and gameplay-wise it is much more advanced than the first game (in terms of level design), and introduces new mechanics.

ITT autism

ive always considered no.2 to be the hardest, and also the worst.
its not a bad game by any means, but it seems more tedious and slow paced than 1 and 3.
i'm actually playing through 3 right now on gba, and am crusing my way through and having alot of fun.
but no.2 just doesnt seem as fun. love that level 1 music though.
is a joy to play on piano

>>3504230
Dude, Luigi mode is best mode.
Anyone who says this is easy is a god damn liar who cheated with warps like baby.

>>3504230
I always thought this was way harder than The Lost Levels.

I managed to beat it recently but I could never have done that as a child.

>>3506313
>>3506319

The levels are longer, and it also feels easier to make a mistake. There's more "trial and error" moments, a lot of them related to not being able to see below or above you.

So it makes it very tedious, because when you lose all your lives you start the world over again. It's especially annoying when the third level is the tough one, so you have to keep playing through the first two.

>>3506454

world 5 is like that, I know because I have so many painful memories of restarting from 5-1 all over. That fucking ostrich-rider shyguy.

>>3506046
>he plays as the princess

>tfw you can't play as luigui cause just looking at his big tard head and watching is flapping autist footsides twiddle wildly as he jumps makes you laff your ass off

>>3506901
Who else am I supposed to fap to?

>>3506907
That's what happens when you slap sprites that weren't meant to be there in a game where they don't belong. They had to make the heads bigger just so to avoid people being able to skip parts of levels when small.

>>3506295
beat me to it

>>3506910
birdo obviously

>>3505741
Fucking Autism

>>3506309
Fucking beat me to it <3


SMB2 was an amazing game when it was released here in the states. Graphically it was leagues ahead of Mario 1 and many video games of its era. It had an amazing soundtrack, fun level design, the option to pick different characters, many things that weren't really normal for platformers of the time.

To this day it still holds a place dear to my heart, it is a wonderful game. The All-Stars version was better because you could change characters more often. Going into a level with toad and realizing that it requires luigi or Princess to not be insanely difficult was a bitch.

>>3506954
><3
Go back to >>>/tumblr/

>>3504230
It's not like other Mario games. You're going to have an outright advantage in 1, 3 world, and 2jp/lost levels if you played any one the other ones. I was good at 3 immediately cause I was really comfortable with how 1 played. 2us doesn't play anything like the other games, if nothing else your main attack strategy is completely different.

If you play through and beat the similar ones then try to play 2us sight unseen you're going to step into it and be completely out of your comfort zone.

It's not necessarily harder, just will have a different adjustment time. That being said, it's comparing apples and oranges, like comparing contra to defender. Not only that, but difficulty is somewhat subjective, especially in comparisons.

>>3506974
>Mario sprites tacked onto a non-Mario game
>It's not like other Mario games
Really makes you think

>>3506958
I forgot that autists don't know how to love and are easily triggered by hearts

>>3506994
Not him. Lurk more. Especially before you talk about "autism".

>>3504230
>>3504323
Just don't dig straight down and keep throwing the shy guys onto higher layers.....

As far as the key? Drop it and the mask stops coming for a while

>>3506283
I'll keep calling it SMB2 because it's what it was called on my Super Mario All Stars cart, and because Lost Levels was a trash romhack tier game with stupid edited levels, that was only released in japan exclusively on a failed floppy disc expansion (literally the Famicoms equivalent of the Sega CD).

>>3507027
Sure, while Super Mario USA was only released in 1992, which is 6 years after Super Mario Bros. 2, 5 years after Doki Doki Panic, and 4 years after the game's release in the West. Doesn't sound like they gave much of a shit about THAT ROM hack, did they.

By the way, other Famicom Disk System exclusives include Metroid, Hikari Shinwa (Kid Icarus) and the Famicom Tantei Club series. Akumajou Dracula (Castlevania) was also exclusive to it until 1993 (2 years after the release of the Super Famicom title Akumajou Dracula, or Super Castlevania 4). And Zelda no Densetsu (The Legend of Zelda) was exclusive to it until 1994 (3 years after the release of Kamigami no Triforce, or A Link to the Past).

FDS sales represented over 20% of Famicom sales in Japan, over 4 million units (4.4 million on Wikipedia but this is uncited; Nintendo just says over 4 million). In comparison, the Famicom sold 19.35 million units in Japan. Game sales exceeded 50 million (53.39 million). This is successful. Maybe it makes you angry to think that "your" trashy ROM hack isn't really a Mario game, but you'll have to face the truth.

>>3505741

>>3507073
Oh shit nigg
>he got told
I want one of those twin famicoms so bad

Friendly reminder that beating any of the Mario's on All-stars doesn't count as beating the game. Nor if you play with the princess on SMB2 USA or use the cape on SMW.

>>3507165
That wasn't all that friendly!

>>3506113
>Also wish Nintendo would use elements from Mario 2 a little more often.

Really agree with this, Subcon track in Mario Kart when

I wish they'd use Mario Land stuff also, as far as I can think of nothing from that game besides Daisy has ever appeared again.
2 and Land were my first Mario games and the lack of references to them in the series rustles me

>>3507193
They must be busy referencing real Mario games.

>>3507197
>having an ego about which mario games you like
Coolerino

>>3507205
I guess they were right that they could swap sprites and make Americans believe it's a real Mario game. You guys are even dumber than one would believe without witnessing it firsthand.

>>3506914
>They had to make the heads bigger just so to avoid people being able to skip parts of levels when small.
They only added that to the smb2, in doki doki meme player is always big. In all-stars and SMA1 heads also arent big, but player still has same hitbox so I dont know why they did even bother adding it in the first place as it has no purpose.

>>3507208
Sure glad i never fell for that meme game.
>Be the 80s
>Be me at blockbuster
>See new mario game
>My parents were rich so I had a iPhone x1000. It was the size of a backpack
>Search for nintendo games in Japan
>Page takes 15 hours to load
>Go home and wait for page to update

Man it took awhile but i researched my games unlike you poor faggots.

>>3507278
That's the point. They tacked on the small/big "mechanic" when it doesn't even work in the game.

>>3505741
God damn dude lets take it down a notch, or 5.

Anyone else feel bad throwing the shy guys into the quick sand? The way they would kick helplessly upside down as they were slowly swallowed into the ground was disturbing to me as a kid. I usually always just let them go somewhere safe bit to whew they couldn't harm me

>>3506283
Anyone else get the impression that this guy has a strong lisp and pronounces R's as W's?

Because when I read his posts that's what I hear in my head.

This was the first mario game i beat besides world i have sma + world luigi op

>>3506910

>>3507362
oh my

>>3504323
The game is maybe difficult if you play it with a single character, but Toad/Princess combo can easily beat the whole game with little difficulty. Luigi takes a lot of skill to play well, but he can literally skip entire parts of the game.
Mario is okay but he has nothing much really going for him, if you don't need the princess or Luigi's gimmicks, you're probably better off using Toad.

>>3505741
>AUTISM
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