/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3503106
The opposition seems to have this as their arguments.

-Fucking 6th millennial babbies
-It will bring Halo's 12 year old fans here
-We shouldn't even have 5th gen
-I will shitpost 6th gen threads to death if they're allowed

I really don't see why their side is a thing

report and move on folks.

>>3503109
Sure thing, bro.

>I'm going to post this shit again and again hoping people would stop telling me to fuck off.
Your poll isn't worth anything, everybody can reset their routers to vote as many times as they want, and judging by your eager I'm pretty sure you would never do that uh.

cuck

>>3503116
If the poll was the other way around your post would say "SEE! SEE! WE DON'T WANT IT HERE! >>>/v/ >>>/v/ >>>/v/ >>>/v/ >>>/v/ >>>/v/ >>>/v/ >>>/v/ >>>/v/ >>>/v/ >>>/v/ >>>/v/ >>>/v/ >>>/v/ >>>/v/ >>>/v/"

I don't see why not, I mean, the GBA won't even take up any new threads.

GBA posters keep to /gameboy general/ or /retro handhelds/

>>3503120
If the poll was the other way around you would post
>Your poll isn't worth anything, everybody can reset their routers to vote as many times as they want

Also calm down OP you're going to have a stroke.

>all the options are basically tied

I just want to discuss "retro" Linux games.

>Armagetron Advanced
>SuperTux
>Tux Racer
>Battle for Wesnoth
>Oolite

Can we just get this over with and make /v2k/?

>>3503106
>post a thread asking for GBA to be allowed on the board
>people made it clear that the GBA and the rest of 6th gen were not welcome here
>I'LL KEEP POSTING IT UNTIL YOU AGREE WITH ME REEEEEE
Go fuck yourself.

>>3503147
Correction: a vocal minority made it clear they didn't want the GBA.

The polls say otherwise.

>>3503147
It's not clear at all, you know this just fine that there are two sides and one of them is only getting angry and stamping their feet that their #safespace is being trod on.

I don't know what vendetta you have but it's pathetic. Also, your post shows that you are a newfag brought in to derail discussion because everyone here knows that announcing sage is against the rules.

>>3503142
That would make both sides happy, but most of the same autists that ask to allow 6th gen here are also against it for some reason.

They don't want /v/, they don't want /vg/, they don't want /v2k/. Because to this point it's not even about discussing 6th gen games anymore, they just want to annoy the people that don't want it here.

>>3503142

Speaking of which, MORE POLLS

http://www.strawpoll.me/11234520

http://www.strawpoll.me/1
http://www.strawpoll.me/10000

SAGE AND REPORT

SAGE AND REPORT YOUR GUTS OUT

>>3503150
>there are two sides and one of them is only getting angry and stamping their feet that their #safespace is being trod on
And the kids on the other side are holding their breath and spamming this kind of shit because they want their childhood console to be allowed on a board they don't belong in.
6th gen is not retro, period. Come back in 10 years.

>>3503152
I honestly don't care if the GBA get allowed here or /v2k/ gets made.

I just want somewhere I can have actual discussion without ">NOT RETRO!I!I!!" shitposters.

>>3503152
This.
>muh slippery slope fallacy
>muh splitting the userbase

>>3503167
>10 years

Yeah right. Try 50. Maybe 100

>>3503167
You faggots are throwing just as much of a tantrum.

Namely implying everyone who opposes you is underage and threats of 6th gen shitposting to "prove" your point about how bad 6th gen is.

/v2k/ will be the most humiliating thing that ever happened to /vr/. An entire board had to be created, covering less than a decade of video games, because /vr/ could not handle the idea of a PS2 game being on their precious board.

>>3503106
OP, you need to come across as more neutral, even though I don't think you are. You can't start one of these threads with a GBA picture and your own opinions, and it's too easy for people to cheese those polls, so they would never be considered by Hiro or the mods in any decision. Someone should make a thread here or on /qa/ just like that original thread you're linking.

>>3503142
This would help by ending most of the weighted meta we always get.

>>3503168
Those shitposters are purely why I'm on the side of allowing it. Shitposters should be assfucked out of spite, not adhered to.

Thankfully, the janitor dishes out bans for the NOT RETRO REEEEEEEEEE shitposters.

>>3503175
4channers who don't get their way have a nasty habit of throwing a massive tantrum and shitposting whenever things don't got their way.

This happened on /tg/ when quests were banned until the mods started smacking bitches really fucking hard.

>>3503168
>>3503179
You know perfectly well the not retrooo crew come as a reaction of you forcing things that are not allowed here and constantly asking for the same shit again and again and again like an annoying kid. It's a perfectly natural reaction.

>>3503179
The rules are absolute, dear

>>3503182
>4channers

>>3503176
And? /co/ and /aco/ were created because western comics had no dedicated boards which forced people to post western stuff on the eastern comics boards. Everyone is happy with the changes.

>>3503193

There's already a dedicated board for post-2000 games: /v/.

>>3503183
This.

Allowing GBA would bring the Mega Man Battle Network cancer here.

I can't wait for 7th gen kiddies to shitpost here in an attempt to allow 360 and PS3 discussion on /vr/.
>2005 WAS 11 YEARS AGO! 7TH GEN IS RETRO REEEEEEEEE

>>3503193
And /aco/ was a disasator.
It created 2 dead boards with vaguely defined rules.

>>3503201
Not him, but I want a board where I can have longer discussions about 6th and 7th gen games. I don't want to spend two or three hours in one sitting with one thread like /v/ would require just to keep the thread alive for that little window. I want threads that last several days or longer if there's enough to talk about. /vr/ runs at a good pace, and I think that /v2k/ would settle into a pretty similar pace.

>>3503168
>>3503179
this

>>3503185
No they're not.

>>3503117
Yeah, you are.

"MUH CHILDHOOD" is not retro, goddammit.

>>3503108
>We shouldn't even have 5th gen
Anything beyond 1982 isn't retro, faggot.

>>3503223
Why would you want quality discussions over a terrible gen?

>>3503247

>>3503253
Give me ten good 6th gen games. I'll wait.

>>3503247
The 7th gen was utter crap but the 6th was the last good generation of consoles.

>>3503256
You'll wait like a pansy ass faggot and then scream "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU" with your fingers in your ears when people give more than 10 good 6th gen games.

>>3503258
Nah, you just grew up.

>>3503256

>someone actually bothers to name 10 games
>"those games"
>"good"

>>3503258
Nope, 5th gen was the last decent gen.

>>3503264
Nope, 2nd gen was the last decent Gen.

>>3503259
>>3503263
Thanks for proving my point then. I was actually going to discuss these games but since you can't..

>>3503223
Absolutely. Great idea and would work fine, even if it was slow who the fuck cares. The guy talking about it being "humiliating" and "precious board" is a troll, probably some millenial.

>>3503267
Why is that?

>>3503256
Devil May Cry
Twisted Metal Black
Odin Sphere
Timesplitters 2
TLoZ : Windwaker
Ninja Gaiden
Halo 1
Dark Cloud
Prince of Persia
God of War

>>3503273
Because I can make sweeping generalizations, too.

Nice gif by the way.

>>3503280
I like 6th gen but
>Halo 1
>God of War
>Twisted Metal Black
>Dark Cloud
Man...

Just let it happen, end this shitstorm

>>3503294
It would get worse. We need /v2k/.

>>3503280
>Fucking Halo of all games is now considered a good retro game by someone

>>3503281
but it's true. 6th gen added nothing new, and even games that were restablished became casualized, or added gimmicks to the controls. Look at this for example
>>3503280
>Devil May Cry
It's all about enemy memorization and inputting a pseudo 20-list combo like a fighting game. Not the worst, but many people praise the garbage gameplay.
>Twisted Metal Black
Pretty good actually, added more story to the gameplay but overall similar to TW2.
>Timesplitters 2
Severely overrated as a great FPS, when most people that played it simply grew up with it. Many games did this before, and it's only loved for it's use of time travel.
>WW
If you want to know why WW is bad ask /v/.
>Ninja Gaiden
It's okay, like a more defensive version of DMC.
>Halo 1
Meh clone of better FPS games on PC before.
>Dark Cloud
Another game that is overrated, crappy level design.
>Prince of Persia
Casual shit with the rewind feature.
>God of War
Casual version of DMC.

As you can see most 6th gen games are simply better looking sequels to franchises. Some even worse. I'm not saying there are no good 6th gen games, just most are already done and weren't exact copies.

_____________________fuck off gba will never be retro________________________________

>>3503301
You're already on 4chan

>>3503269
I don't think it counts as a straw man if it's proven correct almost instantly by these posts >>3503280 >>3503291 >>3503303 >>3503307

Easiest way to end this debate: 4chan hosts two rounds of polls that only 4chan Pass users can vote on, to prevent cheating.

In the first poll, we would vote on whether to add more consoles to /vr/. If "yes" wins a supermajority (66% or more), another poll would be held to see which consoles should be allowed. If "no" wins a supermajority, we would vote on the creation of /v2k/. If neither gets enough votes, /vr/ is left as it is.

>>3503256
I had this in lists but you're getting a wall of text instead.

God of War, Devil May Cry, Shadow of the Colossus, Yakuza, Hitman: Contracts, Zone of the Enders, Metal Gear Solid 2, Valkrie Profile, Ratchet and Clank, Lord of the Rings, The Getaway, Bully, DBZ: Budokai (and Tenkaichi), Jak and Daxter, Viewtiful Joe, Final Fantasy XII, Xenosaga, Atelier Iris, Super Smash Bros Melee, Super Mario Sunshine, Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne, Kingdom Hearts, Disgaea 2, Katamari Damacy, Burnout 3, Grandia 2, Haunting Ground, Rule of Rose, Clock Tower, Resident Evil 4, Project Zero, GTA3, Beyond Good and Evil, Tales of Symphonia.

PS: I deliberately avoided naming sequels or the same franchise more than once.

>>3503318
>only 4chan Pass users can vote on
Putting a pay gate on a vote about substantive changes to a free site goes against the principles of most 4chan users.

>>3503318
>only those who payed for 4chan passes may vote
Great way to represent everybody.

>>3503324
If you don't care about 4chan being up, you don't care about the board either

>>3503319
Some of these games I can see taking advantage of a slower board. Like discussing Dragonball anime or Greek mythology of God of War. I don't think it belongs on /vr/ though.

>>3503326
>I don't think it belongs on /vr/ though.
Exactly, which is why we need /v2k/.

>>3503318
but what if it's 50/50?

>>3503326
Nobody cares what you think. The board is stagnant because we've got nothing to discuss. You think we were silent on these games until early 2010? Hell no, we were discussing them for literal decades.

>>3503331
>The board is stagnant
which is how it was meant to be?

>>3503331
>Nobody cares what you think.
I care what he thinks.
>The board is stagnant because we've got nothing to discuss.
The speed of the board is fine. I find things to discuss every day.

>>3503323
>>3503324

I agree, but like people keep saying about strawpolls, how else could a vote prevent cheating?

We could use Steam accounts, but it's hard to say how many people on /vr/ have one.

>>3503330

The safest thing would be to do nothing.

Also, it was stupid for me to say that a /v2k/ vote would only happen if No got enough votes. That should probably happen as long as Yes fails.

5th gen is not retro, but it was allowed

>>3503258
Early 7th gen was cool

>>3503256
Are you serious?

>>3503329
That's silly creating an entire board for the purpose of one gen. Don't you think that board would be slow too after a while? and as other people parrot here "stagnating" "4chan is all about change" "this board is too slow". The same problems would soon be spoken there and then 7th gen will be allowed.

>>3503338
>I agree, but like people keep saying about strawpolls, how else could a vote prevent cheating?
I don't think there's any way to get an accurate and acceptable vote. We need a neutral thread on /qa/ to discuss the pros and cons of a proposal or to suggest new ideas. We need people who will actually put in the effort to debate things for the mods to read and consider.

>>3503348
Adding on to this, the best solution would be to address the immediate problems of /v/ first before contemplating the addition of another board which probably would never happen to appease one gen.

>>3503348
Allow 7th gen there then. It has been 11 years man, 7th gen is /v2k/ as fuck now.

>>3503348
>>3503352
From the very beginning of the /v2k/ suggestion, it was proposed for 6th and 7th gen. See >>3496719

>>3503348
>>3503352
>>3503357
And some refinement of the range >>3497516

>>3503352
2 gens still aren't a lot to discuss in the long run, you'd run out of threads pretty fast. /vr/ is already slow with 5 gens, and repair generals for old consoles and games and hacking. 7th gen isn't like that, there are still repair companies that fix 7th gen consoles or atleast suggest you buying a cheap used one. maybe if we were 12 gens in it'd make sense, diving the gens up in two.

/v2k/ should be late 5th gen and 6th gen

>>3503331
>The board is stagnant because we've got nothing to discuss.
Sure, we've all played EVERY SINGLE RETRO GAME from pong to the dreamcast, there's nothing to discuss anymore.
It's not like people here only play the games they played when they were children and don't care about anything else.

It's not like people here don't care about learning japanese in order to play all the games that weren't localized in their language, oh and by the way, they already played those and talked about them intensively.

All the libraries from each console have been discussed extensively and intensively, do you remember all the threads about Holy Umbrella, Farland Story or Blade Arts? Good times.

Truly, we've talked about so many games I kind of miss having multiple Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy threads every day, we've spent so much time talking about all those niche and not so popular games that I kind of miss the brief and educating discussions about the best sellers.

Really, what's the point of /vr/ now? We should just turn it into a sixth gen board and beyond because we've talked SO MUCH about ALL THOSE RETROGAMES.

>>3503359
There's way, WAY more people interested in 6th and 7th gen than all the first 4 combined. The new board would be faster than current /vr/.

>>3503363
So you want a board that's supposed to be slow but ends up being fast? Sort of like /v/?

Also yeah, that's why /vr/ was made. because there were people passionate enough to discuss these games but there weren't that many people.

>>3503358
/v2K/ should be 5th gen and 6th gen games released in the 2000s

>>3503363
>>3503368
I think /v2k/ would be about the same speed as /vr/, and creating it would end the ambiguity and fighting about GBA and other things. It would also take some burden off of /v/.

>>3503318
>only 4chan Pass users can vote on

yeah go fuck yourself

>>3503369
It should be limited to whole gens. It would be too hard to enforce borders that fall in the middle of gens, and there would be a lot of bickering about borderline games. We already have a little of that with PC games right now. That's manageable, but we don't need more of it.

I don't think it's a good idea to mess with the speed of /vr/ right now by moving any 5th gen. /v2k/ should be 6th and 7th gen.

>>3503318
>having to pay to be able to vote

Could somebody say why such threads are brought up again? I remember there was discussion in the spring but it ended wih nothing.
Is that some spring/autumn madness?
On the topic, I think this board should be left as the 20th century gaming, and I wouldn't mind if /v2k/ appears.

>>3503376

But 7th gen went into the 10s so shouldn't it be early 7th gen? Still don't see the problem with late 5th gen

gen 6 should become /vr/ on January 1st, 2020

The rules are fine as is, Dreamcast only gets the special exception because it was released in the 20th century and like half the library are ports from 5th gen consoles anyways.

>>3503382
If you read the sticky on /vr/ and the first draft sticky for /v2k/ here >>3503358 they say games launched on platforms in that time range.

There was also a reply chain about how games are still coming out now on 7th gen, but almost all of them are just annual sports games and multiplats that nobody would bother talking about so it really wouldn't matter.

>>3503385
Im still gonna talk about 5th gen games released in the 2000s

>>3503387
I think that would probably be tolerated to some extent. I don't think it would be as contentious as the /vr/ border is.

>>3503391
/vr/ border is contentious because it's constantly being threatened. People pushing so hard for this stuff make the other act defensive and tolerate less things than they normally would. /v2k/ would purge that attitude from both boards.

>>3503318
Go away shill

>>3503307
>It's all about enemy memorization and inputting a pseudo 20-list combo like a fighting game.
Comix zone

>added more story to the gameplay but overall similar to TW2.
If the gameplay isn't broken... Also GTA

>Severely overrated as a great FPS, when most people that played it simply grew up with it.
Pick an FPS (because opinions). Goldeneye Half Life.

>If you want to know why WW is bad ask /v/.
>stoplikingwhatIdon'tlike.tiff

>It's okay, like a more defensive version of DMC.
literally ninja gaiden

>Meh clone of better FPS games on PC before.
You read it here, nobody is allowed to make cinematic FPS games because someone did it already, because fuck creativity

>Another game that is overrated, crappy level design.
"popular things suck because popular things should appeal to everyone's specific taste" - 4chan user

>Casual shit with the rewind feature.
Yeah man, let's depend on a system built for stretching out games half the size of an mp3 file, because fuck innovation

>Casual version of DMC.
Nice job explaining your reasoning

I'm curious how you view newer games with those nostalgia goggles, you seem hellbent on retaining old game design on far more capable hardware purely out of traditionalism

>>3503326
All topics not related to video games is shitposting, take Dragonball to /a/ or God of War to /his/ and you'd be laughed at
That aside we're here to talk about video games anyway so irrelevant

>>3503331
That's just another way of saying "people don't wanna talk about what I wanna talk about", which is why you have to be creative if you want real conversation; Nobody's forcing you to post

Stagnant boards are the comfiest

>>3503352
To which shitposters would start threads about their favourite 4chan console debates or something to that extent.

Oh hey there's our problem, people that don't talk about video games

wait

long post for extra irony

>>3503404
I'm so sorry I raped your border.

>>3503404
Agreed. /v2k/ would greatly ease the border war. It would be a good bridge between /vr/ and /v/.

>>3503432
>Comix Zone
>anything like that
I'm not who you were responding to but that is silly and you know it.

>>3503179
Annoying prick, you guys ruin this board

I really want /v2k/
I would love to discuss 6th gen and early 7th gen but not in /v/, god no
My favorite systems of all time are the GBA and DS
I think this place is good how it is but /v2k/ would be great, we should also move dreamcast there

>>3503515
Same

/vr/ for 5th Gen and under (including games on /vr/ systems released after 2000)

/v2k/ for 6th Gen - 7th Gen (including DreamCast and games on /v2k/ systems released after 2010)

>>3503521
No

>>3503106
No, if only because allowing GBA, which is 2001 hardware, would drive the Sony fanboys even more shitposty since PS2 is even older hardware, and they'd never shut up about getting it allowed here on /vr/.

The only way to fix /vr/'s shitposting problems is to push the cutoff date back further, like 1997 or 1993.

>>3503532
Yes

>>3503542
including 7th gen makes no sense

>>3503541
What old games do you consider being overrated and having aged badly, /vr/?

>>3503547

But it's the only way to justify a new board.

>>3503548

Regardless of where you stand on 6th gen games, can we all agree that posting "/org/" should result in an automatic ban?

>>3503541
>The only way to fix /vr/'s shitposting problems is to push the cutoff date back further, like 1997 or 1993.
The cutoff should be 16-bit software, whether for console or PC. Dates are fuzzy. Dates do more harm than good. That would allow us to discuss any new games developed for old hardware. We get rid of the 6th genners, but keep things fresh for ourselves.

>>3503551
You know, I'm surprised it hasn't been filtered as spam already. The janitor usually instantly deletes it anyway.

I don't understand the hate surrounding the possible inclusion of 6th gen. The userbase for /vr/ would spike up slightly for a bit when it's first added, but would drop back down once people who don't care much lose interest, just like it did when /vr/ was first formed, and after they added dreamcast. I hardly see any dreamcast discussion as it is, so I don't think adding 6th gen would really affect this place as much as some people think.

The argument that games such as halo would shit the place up is retarded, they'd probably just end up with a general like the DOOM one and keep themselves contained.

/v/ is a shithole for only current gen games most of the time, and it's hard to find gems in that place, although just yesterday there was an awesome thread about Legacy of Kain, which would still be alive on /vr/, but unfortunately the majority of that series was based on 6th gen platforms, so it's not allowed and the thread is now gone.

4chan Communication 2: Electric Boogaloo
>>3503361
Yeah, some people don't. Being elitist about it is what drives people away from discussing what they care about for fear of their enthusiasm being shot down, and it's created a culture of ultra niche cliques that need heavy documentation and excessive time investment just to get started

But anything to fit in rite

>Really, what's the point of /vr/ now?

Discussion about retro video games, of which the distinction of "retro" varies as 4chan is literally retro and veterans are disillusioned with the state of gaming today, pinning 6th gen as a scapegoat with thread gerrymandering and virtue signalling over objective consideration and good old fashioned proper discourse.

>>3503363
I dare you to go to /soc/ and pretend 4chan is still the same website

>>3503368
Which is where the whole "holier than thou" mindset came from, we were talking about GOOD VIDEO GAMES!

But shitposters can't help themselves, mods?

Maybe a "designated shitposter" tag?

>>3503376
We already have bickering, that's what a discussion on 4chan is for: Nitpicking over trivialities due to autism (opinions)

It's why we still have console vs. threads, we secretly don't want them to go away because we love shouting our opinions at strangers and feeling right merely because it applies to you

>>3503381
One group wants to talk about games that are objectively old while the other group doesn't want to invite over more underage children that will shitpost because lol memez

>>3503404
But that'll still incite shitposting because some people aren't here for the video game discussions, believe it or not

>>3503492
It's a stretch and that's the point:

>enemy memorization

Preferred panel routes, moves to avoid/utilise on all enemies are learned

>inputting a pseudo 20-list combo
enemies are programmed to block spamming requiring clever attack usage, plus stage maneuvering related to enemy attack trajectories (aka fighting game mechanics)

>>3503563
I'd be fine with that. 16-bit master race.

>>3503583
>I hardly see any dreamcast discussion as it is
The only DreamCast discussion is about the right to post about DreamCast. It's obnoxious. Either get rid of DreamCast, or keep it and allow GBA.

>>3503563
>no Neogeo
>no Genesis
OK.

>>3503593
> Either get rid of DreamCast, or keep it and allow GBA.
Dreamcast was made before 1999/12/31
GBA was not
So, what's your problem?

>>3503597
>So, what's your problem?
It's a 6th Gen console that is more powerful than the PS2. It has no place in /vr/.

>>3503594
But that's wrong.

>>3503563
well gee I guess we wont be discussing the 32x then

>>3503616
The 32x and the Virtual Boy were market failures, have extremely small libraries and are barely worth talking about.

>>3503618
We can't talk about the Jaguar either, or the CDi or the 3DO

They're failures and we don't talk about them anyway, but they're definitely retro

>>3503621
We're in the midst of an inquisition, anon. Sacrifices must be made for the greater good.

Trial a 6th gen board then merge it with /vr/ if its too slow. 7th gen is still current enough to be relevant to /v/ to still be under discussion there, it doesnt need a home like 6th gen.

>>3503594
>le Genesis is 32-bit meme

Only the M68020 is true 32-bit. Genesis just uses a stock 68K.

>>3503624
HOW MANY INNOCENT CONSOLES HAVE TO DIE BEFORE YOU ALLOW 6TH GEN!?!?!?!

>>3503603
Hardware power has nothing to do with culture of the time.
For example, Wii U hardware has power comparable to PS3 or XBox 360, but it doesn't make Wii U relevant to 2005-2010 period.
The 6th generation could pretty much start with 3DO M2 in 1997, would it make PS2 still relevant to pre-1999 board?
Dates is the problem, not the hardware.

Just let it fucking happen. It's not like this board is not already getting full of shit posting faggots. Half the time we can't even make a thread with out 70% shit post 20% memes and anime pictures and 10% actual discussion about the topic. I hate to break it to you but the "kiddies" are already here.

>>3503631
I will stop at nothing to ensure the purity of this board.

>all these faggots proposing another videogames board

It didn't work for /jp/. It didn't work for /vg/. It didn't work for /vp/. It won't work for /v2k/. Just let them rot on /v/ where shitty sixth-gen kids belong.

>>3503638
>Just let it fucking happen.

thats the cuck attitude

>>3503628
Can CPU bitness be defined only by data bus bitness?

Is this even worth discussing when we really have no say in the matter and the mods/hiro have had no discussion with us?

>>3503645
New /vr/ rule:
Games that use 8/16-bit programming instructions: Retro.

Games that use 32/64-bit programming instructions: Not Retro.

>>3503650
This is the most perfect solution. I love it. Sticky that shit. Put up a neon sign.

>>3503650
>>3503654
Terrible.

I think it's dumb to allow 5th gen but not 6th gen. THPS2 is retro but evergrace and diablo 2 isn't? It's dumb

/v16/ - Only consoles with 16 or less MB of memory (everything on /vr/, plus the GBA and DS) is allowed
/vgold/ - Only games from 1983 and earlier allowed.
/sax/ - Gaming in the Clinton Years. 1992-2000, and possibly 2016-2014
/wmd/ - Gaming in the Bush Years. 1988-1992, 2001-2008
/prev/ - Pre-vidya. Only pinball, billiards, bagatelle, and similar amusement devices are allowed. Tabletop games like chess and Go would remain on /tg/.
/vmeta/ - For talking about talking about video games.

>>3503641
>It didn't work for /vg/.
/vg/ is one of the biggest boards. Just because you dont like the board doesnt mean it wasnt successful

>>3503667
>/sax/ - Gaming in the Clinton Years
I approve of this idea. Maybe it will convince that one guy to finally dump Socks the Cat

>>3503626
See >>3503223 regarding 6th and 7th gen. /v2k/ would need 7th gen.

>>3503641
They'll never stop pushing /vr/ for 6th gen. I'd like to talk about 6th gen too, but I know that /vr/ isn't the right place for it. Both of these issues would be fixed with a /v2k/ board.

>>3503680
And before someone who hasn't read the last few days of threads says something again, yes /v2k/ would be for 6th AND 7th gen.

>>3503684
>AND 7th gen
early 7th gen please. Anything released past 2010 is /v/ material

/v2k/ should be 5th-7th. There's nothing retro about the 5th gen

What other board has been forced to change its rules/guidelines/range of topics to accommodate a population that appeared 1-3 years after the initial userbase/rules were established?

People who started posting western cartoon porno on /d/ which was for eastern cartoon porno got /aco/.

People who started posting whatever /qst/ content is on whatever board they were split from got their own thing.

People constantly talking about wrastlin'/skateboarding/xgames/mma in /sp/ got /asp/.

Pony fags posting their bs everywhere were put in /mlp/. /pol/ fags doing their thing got /pol/. (Note that I am not equating people who browse these specific boards to people who want 6th gen here. This is just an example of a like minded userbase getting their own board)

I'm sure there are more examples but I've only ever really browsed here since it's creation, and these should be enough to get my point across. Any time a group started posting things that were just barely out of the guidelines of the most relevant board they could find, after the board was established and userbase/rules were in place, they were eventually given their own board. What makes us different in that we need to change our rules to allow more shit in? Why should we be forced to accommodate a new userbase when, as far as I know, no other board has had to? There is no precedent for it that I'm aware of.

>>3503691
5th-6th

>>3503691
I agree. We give them a parting gift. All the Toshinden and Jumping Flash their hearts desire.

>>3503687
Yeah, I'd say set a 2010 cutoff, but in order to curb any ">NOT V2K" shitposting I think the sticky should say something about it not being a "hard limit".

You know? Follow the spirit of the law rather than rulefags screaming about following them to the letter.

Kinda like how no one cares if you drive 5 mph over the speed limit, but don't think about going any faster than that.

>>3503642
Thank You for proving my point.

>>3503698
Why do we have to include 7th gen? It didn't end until like 2013 or what ever.. Why can't we just have 5th gen and 6th gen or late 5th gen (Perfect dark, Majoras mask, ect) and 6th gen?

>WHY DOESN'T MY CHILDHOOD HAVE ITS OWN DEDICATED BOARD??
Millennials are so entitled. Instead of making a new board, why don't you work on making /v/ less shit?

/vr/ made sense because most /v/irgins don't care about games older than PS2, but a /v2k/ would just end up being as shitty as /v/ is these days.

>>3503704
That's already three years ago anon, it's old as fuck now. The last of us was literally my childhood.

>>3503693
You posted this in the other thread and it wasnt a good argument then either.

>>3503713
>/vr/ made sense because most /v/irgins don't care about games older than PS2, but a /v2k/ would just end up being as shitty as /v/ is these days.
So? That's their problem.

>>3503714
>The last of us was literally my childhood.

>>3503713
>a /v2k/ would just end up being as shitty as /v/ is these days
If /v2k/ is shit it means the anti 6th gen people were right.

>>3503713
>WHY DO I HAVE TO SHARE MY BOARD??
Gen X is so entitled. Instead of making ">NOT RETRO" posts, why don't you work on making /vr/ less shit?

>>3503713
most /v/irgins dont care about games older than the ps4

>why don't you work on making /v/ less shit?
because /v/ is full of millions of teenagers and a few 20-30 somethings who want to talk about the ps2 and xbox arent going to change that

>>3503687
5th gen is pre-2000. And 7th gen is still talked about on /v/ so doesnt need its own board yet.

>>3503726
>why don't you work on making /vr/ less shit?
But that's exactly what we're doing by telling the 6th gen guys to fuck off? It can get pretty tiresome but we do it for free.

>>3503108

>millenial babbies

80s kids are considered millenials. If this board had more 70s kids then my Atari 2600 threads would have more replies.

>>3503121

Nah, if the GBA was allowed we'd be seeing a lot of GBA game threads like with other consoles. Right now they stick to gens because the console is not allowed.

>>3503734
Id like a few less autistic fucks around. Let 6th gen in and hopefully people like you will fuck off.

>>3503734
Meanwhile I've been reporting the NOT WETWO MMMUMMMYYYYY fags and they've been getting moderated on the regular.

Whose side do you think the mods are on? It's certainly not you.

>>3503748
>>3503650
Anon already decided on the new rule.

>>3503758
We have an overlord for that.

Oh good, this board continues to be comically retarded. The idea that sixth gen isn't allowed here is hilarious as it is sad. Grow the fuck up and let people talk about old video games. You think anyone on /v/ is going to engage in a thread about Phantom Dust or Gun Valkyrie or PN03 or Extermination? Fuck off. There is literally no reason sixth gen shouldn't be allowed here. Who knows, /VR/ might even be less shitty finally.

>>3503748
>Id like a few less autistic fucks around.
Fair enough.
>Let 6th gen in
Terrible idea, I'm not the one making new thread after new thread crying about the same thing. The autistic ball is in the 6th gen side.

>>3503752
I don't see any change in the sticky. I reported a GBA thread today and they deleted it.

>>3503746
>Nah, if the GBA was allowed we'd be seeing a lot of GBA game threads like with other consoles. Right now they stick to gens because the console is not allowed.

Just like how we see the Atari Lynx or Sega Nomad/GameGear making loads of their own threads outside of /rhh/?

>>3503763
This.

But rulefags gonna rulefag.

All rules must be followed to the T.

>>3503726
>Instead of making ">NOT RETRO" posts, why don't you work on making /vr/ less shit?

"Not retro" gets posted often because you guys keep forcing non-retro systems.
>let's talk about the GBA!
>the GBA not considered retro and is not allowed here. Read the rules.
>I don't care, let's talk about the GBA!
>again, it's not retro. This is not an appropriate board to talk about it, you should try /v/.
>I WANNA TALK ABOUT THE GBAAAA!
>again, it's not retro.
>MOOOOM! GBAAAAAAA!
>not retro
>...

A good way to make /vr/ a better place would be to send retards like this to a containment board where they can shitpost all day long. I'm all for /v2k/.

>>3503106
Good job spoiling the pole by splitting the 'keep same rules' or making the rules even more restrictive with 'ban all sixth gen'

>>3503774
Oh please >not retro happens in plenty of threads that are well with the rules if the board. We should have a counter for it just to see how much autism we have here.

>>3503773
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>>3503794
Of course some people abuse it, but it deosn't mean all the >not retro posts aren't legitimate. Shitposters gonna shitpost, more news at 11.

>>3503715
Yet no one gave any reason as to why it wasn't a good argument except "I don't agree".

These are the replies to that post:

>>3500640
>Honestly all those boards were a mistake.
Opinion
>Besides, those boards were created because there was nowhere for those people to go
False. Not to mention that I even stated that those boards were not the only examples, only the ones I could think of at that time while making the post.
>whereas 6th gen game fans have one: /v/
At this point in time, true.

>>3500642
This guy agreed.

>>3500660
>Your reasoning is sound but you missed the mark of the point you just made.
lol. Just lol. Also thought that /vr/ would be split and not /v/, even though 6th gen would be split off from there not here.
Brought up that /vr/ was split from /v/ because /vr/ posts were being pushed off the board, much the same reason these guys want 6th gen here. Main problem with this? /vr/ posts were not against /v/ rules, however 6th gen posts are most certainly against the rules here. So pretty much ignored the meat of the point of my post because he didn't agree with it.

>>3500761
This guy showed us that /pol/ shits where they please.

Others brought up that "OMG It would be such a slow board that's dumb". Which I've seen several reply that that would be a good thing seeing as how you'd actually get some discussion on 6th up to some 7th gen games. And if/when the board is made, and if its decided to move 5th gen to that board, then that shit would be solid. Also everyone is focusing purely on consoles, when everyone knows PC gaming EXPLODED right around the year 2000, that's a gold mine of topics right there.

>>3503691

agreed

>>3503803
But you don't upload loli hentai to boards, do you?

>>3503148
>Correction: a vocal minority made it clear they didn't want the GBA.
>The polls say otherwise.
That's funny because someone recently made a survey and the results differ from OP's poll.

>>3503715
Yet no one gave any reason as to why it wasn't a good argument except "I don't agree".

These are the replies to that post:

>>3500640 →
>Honestly all those boards were a mistake.
Opinion
>Besides, those boards were created because there was nowhere for those people to go
False. Not to mention that I even stated that those boards were not the only examples, only the ones I could think of at that time while making the post.
>whereas 6th gen game fans have one: /v/
At this point in time, true.

>>3500642 →
This guy agreed.

>>3500660 →
>Your reasoning is sound but you missed the mark of the point you just made.
lol. Just lol.
Brought up that /vr/ was split from /v/ because /vr/ posts were being pushed off the board, much the same reason these guys want 6th gen here. Main problem with this? /vr/ posts were not against /v/ rules, however 6th gen posts are most certainly against the rules here. So pretty much ignored the meat of the point of my post because he didn't agree with it.

>>3500761 →
This guy showed us that /pol/ shits where they please.

Others brought up that "OMG It would be such a slow board that's dumb". Which I've seen several reply that that would be a good thing seeing as how you'd actually get some discussion on 6th up to some 7th gen games. And if/when the board is made, and if its decided to move 5th gen to that board, then that shit would be solid. Also everyone is focusing purely on consoles, when everyone knows PC gaming EXPLODED right around the year 2000, that's a gold mine of topics right there.

>>3503794
>>3503404
That and a couple of shitposters that don't even care, but they wouldn't do it whithout you guys heating up the mood and providing them with a weapon to get easy replies.

Fuck that noise. GBA isn't retro, and neither is Dreamcast.
Both of them shouldn't be allowed here.

>>3503814
These fucking assholes are going to keep posting until they get one Yes' pole.

15 year rule for vr. Or a new board for ps1, ps2, psp, gba, ds, ngc, xbox, sega saturn, and dreamcast. And pc games from 95 till 2005~

>>3503828
They will be allowed on the /v2k/ board

>>3503818
They all had there individual reasons for existing as does /vr/. Which now fits in with the 6th generation of consoles.

>>3503763
Comically retarded? They are both valid opinions, the only idiots here are the shitterfuckers saying things like "there is literally no reason sixth gen shouldn't be allowed here".

People acting like they have somehow logically worked out as a fact that they should be allowed or shouldn't be allowed.

>>3503369
Honestly, we should cut 5th gen games out of /vr/ just to spite not retro people. Then we can rename /vr/ to "pixel video games", aka /vp/ :)

>>3503831
>lets just keep making arbitrary new boards for no reason! Let's make a new board for every generation! For every console!

Useless fucking idiot.

>>3503814
The results of this poll are all over the fucking place. 5 people said 6th gen was their favorite gen with 36 combined 1-5th gen votes.

24 yes (what the fuck when you look at the above stat) vs 30 no's when asked if 6th gen should be allowed.

And here's the real lol, "Do you think the Xbox, PS2, or Gamecube should be allowed?" 35 No's vs the "should we let in 6th gen" questions 30. Other than that its people born in the late 90's/early 00's cherry picking the 6th gen console they want to let in, 18 for Xbox, 22 for PS2, and 21 for Gamecube.

These polls are bullshit because they're relying on people actually answering truthfully and not being giant fucking trolls.

>>3503106
>"Please upgrade to a supported browser to get a reCAPTCHA challenge."
>using latest Firefox
>it's the same captcha that 4chan uses
>works just fine on 4chan
What the fuck, google, get your shit together

>>3503847
Isn't trolling and shitposting supposed to be contained to /b/?

There isn't enough chemotherapy in the world to cleanse this board of people like you.

>>3503828
Says you faggot. KYS and give me more Dreamcast and now I want GBA.

>>3503849
>we should cut 5th gen games out of /vr/ just to spite not retro people
Several of us have been suggesting that very thing. I've never come here to discuss Playstation, N64 or Win 95 games.

>>3503865
Im sorry for your poor taste anon

>>3503865
Those rules allow GBA though.

GBA either uses sprites and tiles, or a framebuffer.

>>3503865
That's true, you are in fact the only person here who matters so we should definitely drop everything to serve your Asperger's.

>>3503875
There were 3D games before 3D acceleration, you know.

>>3503878
Agreed. But please be a 6th gen supporter the irony would be priceless.

>>3503106
https://www.strawpoll.me/11245255

>>3503878

he's not the only person that wants that though, have you even followed this thread?

>>3503852
yeah, remember how that turned out for reddit, nooone's active on that site anymore.

>>3503882
I never implied anything of the sort.

As a matter of fact, if anyone said the GBA could do 3d, I was going to point out Elite for the NES.

>>3503691
>5th Gen
>2000+

>>3503896
I'm just saying that a distinction between 2D and 3D makes no sense in terms of board separation.

>>3503887
And?

The polls show that at least 68-70% of the anons in this thread want the GBA to be allowed.

>>3503845
So all those boards having individual reasons for existing, including /vr/. That's great champ, but I already know that.

Is that somehow an argument for 6th gen being allowed here? Is it an argument against /v2k/? You just made an obvious statement that's true "They all had there individual reasons for existing as does /vr/", and then tacked your opinion "Which now fits in with the 6th generation of consoles" on the end as if the first part validates it. It doesn't.

Sorry, but Pokemon Emerald is not retro.

>>3503713
The term "millennials" is arbitrary. Younger people are more entitled and liberative in general, just like older people are more cemented in their worldview and traditions.

Saying this is a millennial thing is reductive and inflammatory.

>>3503875
BUT GBA IS NOOOOOOOOOOOOT RETROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>3503902
>The polls show that at least 68-70% of the anons in this thread want the GBA to be allowed.
Don't you get tired of getting told and then pretending it never happened?
>>3503116
>>3503178
>>3503349
>>3503814
>>3503854

The current rules are perfectly fine. The Wii, PS3, XBox360, and DS are most certainly not retro. The GameCube, PS2, XBox are not retro.

Even the GBA is not retro.

>>3503909
>Demographers and researchers typically use the early 1980s as starting birth years and use the mid-1990s to the early 2000s as final birth years for the Millennial Generation.

A vast majority of us are millennials, so I don't understand why this is even used as an insult. My guess is they want to be using Gen Z kids.

Gen Z
>Demographers and researchers typically use starting birth years ranging from the mid-1990s to early 2000s and ending birth years ranging from the late 2000s to early 2010s.

>A significant aspect of this generation is its widespread usage of the Internet from a young age. Members of Generation Z are typically thought of as being comfortable with technology, and interacting on social media websites for a significant portion of their socializing.

>>3503693
As a lurker/poster of /vr/ since day one, I've always wanted 6th gen in here. It's hard to have civil discussion of it on /v/

>>3503904
>>3503904
>Is that somehow an argument for 6th gen being allowed here?

Yes. /vr/ was made so we can talk about games to old to be discussed actively on /v/. 6th gen fits that now.

Just because you don't like that idea, doesn't make the point any less valid, and I explained it well enough that most retards would understand it.

>It doesn't.
You need to back that up with points and explain them like I did. Did you go to fucking school?

>>3503929
Nothing on this board is retro. Cave Story is Retro. Shovel Knight is retro. SNES is just OLD. PS2 is old. Gamecube is Old. Gba is OLD.

>>3503774
You do realize the proper way to make a board not shit is to report rule breaking posts, then hide them and ignore them completely right? Continually telling them to get out just incites it and just gives their threads more replies, moron.

>>3503937
Autistic people have a hard time ignoring things that trigger them.

/v16/
/v64/
You know it in your heart to be true.

/v/ has never been anything but current gen, and current events. It's a water cooler board.

>>3503929
We're not talking about /vr/ anymore. We're talking about /v2k/ aka the hottest shit since sliced bread.

Of course, people who like /vr/ aren't going to support /v2k/ because of either the "millennial entitlement" angle, or because they just don't care for the idea and what it stands for. I mean, I honestly don't see how /v2k/ would work, since it overlaps so heavily with what /v/ is now. The only difference is that /v2k/ enthusiasts want a /vr/ like space to discuss (5th-)6th-7th gen games without the speed and shitty /v/-tier posting. While 6th-7th gen is a pretty wide swath of consoles, it's just not big enough, I feel...

>>3503923

>>3503854 (You)

Show me where in my post I said anything about the GBA. Both polls clearly show numbers in favor of allowing it. Unless you count "These polls are bullshit because they're relying on people actually answering truthfully and not being giant fucking trolls" as being anti-GBA. If you did, you're retarded.

If anything I'm anti people spamming these polls pretending that they're actually going to have accurate data. Which I pretty much showed in my post, of which you obviously missed the point. For one thing, the polls can be cheated. The other thing is people are going to be trolls and not answer truthfully.

>>3503713
the reason /v/ is shit is because it's way too fucking fast
it's like a twitch chat in there

>>3503930
Gen y is the worst generation. They are the ones who are making the terrible music of today, social justice, blacklivematter, and are making the terrible games of today

>>3503943
>For one thing, the polls can be cheated. The other thing is people are going to be trolls and not answer truthfully.
Which is exactly was I was trying to imply? Polls aren't realiable, stop using them as an argument.

Why do nintendo fags always want to be included in everything even when it's clear they're not wanted.

It's like the whole "Is smash a fighting game" thing. They're just arguing to be allowed to sit at a table where everyone hates them and for what?

>>3503954
how is this relevant to the thread
btw smash is a fighting game

GBA is possibly my favorite console

but NOPE

For what reason do people not want 6th gen here?

Its dead to /v/ now so dont think itll bring people over.

Slippery slope will end with 6th gen anyway since Dreamcast was the foot in the door

What other reasons do you fags have?

>>3503331

>we've got nothing to discuss

>>3503984
Muh secret club.

>>3503632
Okay, but dates apply to the games released on the systems too. I'd see homebrews get passing acknowledgement from indie cred alone, but you can't discuss older-but-not-considered-retro-on-4chan consoles because it's against "the rules", even though the aforementioned condition is technically a loophole - New games on old hardware.

So it's begging the question, when DOES it become old hardware? Because from what I read here, it's never; The only reasoning I've seen is based in stubborn self-righteous arrogance

>>3503650
That won't cause unnecessary arguments at all! Everyone will be totally happy with that distinction.

Did you forget what thread you're in?

>>3503667
This is literally the end goal you seem to want, as you just can't seem to handle threads you don't personally have nostalgia for with even a modicum of respect for the other posters that might actually be interested.

And even then, I'm 20 and the first thing I ever played was an Atari ST, so I'd still end up offending one of your feeble pedants because I'm not enjoying things right. Here's an idea, let's make a board for every separate user so nobody's opinions can be challenged and EVERYBODY is right!

>>3503693
So in other words the exceptions become memes to intentionally annoy uptight backseat moderators because their once-airtight ruleset was violated by a paradigm shift of interpretation and refuse to adapt to change, resulting in the masturb8rs getting their own board because of how the broken rule hurt their feewings instead of being mature about it and hiding the thread

Not to mention you imply "forced to accommodate" means "not allowed to have an opinion". If anything they'd get shit on by all these people jizzing themselves over the idea of having their board "cleansed" from not-retro-retro bogeymen.

Basically spam your vitriol and hide the thread already. You lot have part one down, too bad it works against you without the second

>>3503932
No one can be this fucking stupid unless you're trolling.

I'm going to use your exact impeccable style of debate against you.

For reference
>They all had there individual reasons for existing as does /vr/. Which now fits in with the 6th generation of consoles.

First we'll make an obvious statement.
>Cows are living creatures that have a valid reason for existing.
Guess we need to tie /vr/ into that.
>As does /vr/.
Now for the big finish.
>Which means the 6th generation does not belong here.

Let's continue the exercise.

>The sky is blue and has a valid reason for existing as does /vr/. Which means the 6th generation does not belong here.

>Water is necessary for life on earth and has a valid reason for existing as does /vr/. Which means the 6th generation does not belong here.

>Fire is hot and has a valid reason for existing as does /vr/. Which means the 6th generation does not belong here.

>You're fucking retarded and unfortunately have a valid reason for existing as does /vr/. Which means the 6th generation does not belong here.

Now as for this

>Yes. /vr/ was made so we can talk about games to old to be discussed actively on /v/. 6th gen fits that now.

Says you and a minority of people according to the flawed (imo anyway) polls. I'm sure there was some discussion of 6th gen back in 2013 when /vr/ was created, but a vast majority of the discussion was likely still about 7th and 8th gen gaming. Which means 6th gen posts were falling off the board even then, yet they still chose to limit this board to consoles released prior to Jan 1st 2000. The fact that Dreamcast was let in despite being 6th gen was due to the technicality of it being released well before the cutoff. So one could rightfully argue that 6th gen was left out for a fucking reason, that reason being that 6th gen does not mesh at all with gens 1-5. Fuck off.

>>3503984
DreamCast shouldn't be allowed to be honest with you.

>>3503990
A month or two ago I dug through the archives for /vr/.
The last page looked exactly like the current front page.

>>3503951
Oops, my bad. The trolls have me worked up.. I'M SORRY ANON

>>3503996

tried having an adult conversation with you but i think your a little bit fucked in the head, you make no sense. and completely just ignore my point and badger on about a bunch of random shit.

>>3504000

Guess what? People actually discuss in the already existant threads here instead of

>NOW THE DUST IS SETTLED
>WHO WAS IN THE WRONG
>WTF I HATE X NOW
>[twitter post]
>XFAGS IN SUICIDE WATCH

That pop in every 1 minute in /v/, this is not anyone sane would want for /vr/. But let's adopt your idea and allow GBA, will it magically makes /vr/ a fast paced board as you want? If not, we should add PS2, GC and XB? Why not, they're from the same gen teehe

>>3503946
If you want a slow board, I recommend checking out Atechan's /v/. I've quit going to our /v/ because it's shit.

>>3504018
>NOW THE DUST IS SETTLED
>WHO WAS IN THE WRONG
>[twitter post]
This is becoming more and more common on /vr/ already. I don't see how it has anything to do with 6th gen.

>>3504013
>tried having an adult conversation with you.

>and I explained it well enough that most RETARDS would understand it.

>Did you go to fucking school?

Very adult of you.

GBAin't Retro. Fuck off /v/.

>>3503960
>how is this relevant to the thread

How is it not

>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH LET US INTO YOUR CLUB
>No!
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH WE WANT IN!

>>3504021

>shitty threads leaking from /v/ to /vr/ at the same time an influx of unhappy posters came here getting mad because they're not welcome neither here or there

I can see

>>3504041
Who is more stubborn and fixated in their beliefs in that situation?

>>3503732
>>3503693
It's hard to have civil or long discussion of 6th or 7th gen on /v/, but I don't think /vr/ is a good fit for either of them. I'd love to talk about both gens on a /v2k/ board.

>>3504060
Sorry, my second link should have been >>3503931

>This board is for the discussion of classic, or "retro" games. Retro gaming means consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games on platforms launched in 1999 and earlier, including DC because Segata give his life for it. Absolutely no platform released after Dec 31 - 1999 should be posted in this board, trespassers will be shot. Pretend the 6th gen never happened here, enjoy your stay

Well, I fixed all our problems, can someone give me mod's privilege?

>>3504060
Just 2 gens doesn't seem like enough for a board of it's own imo. They've already had to split /v/ into a bunch of boards as it is.

>>3503993
>>>3503693 (You)
>(1) So in other words the exceptions become memes to intentionally annoy uptight backseat moderators because their once-airtight ruleset was violated by a paradigm shift of interpretation and refuse to adapt to change, resulting in the masturb8rs getting their own board because of how the broken rule hurt their feewings instead of being mature about it and hiding the thread

>(2) Not to mention you imply "forced to accommodate" means "not allowed to have an opinion". If anything they'd get shit on by all these people jizzing themselves over the idea of having their board "cleansed" from not-retro-retro bogeymen.

>(3) Basically spam your vitriol and hide the thread already. You lot have part one down, too bad it works against you without the second

(1) People weren't posting Simpsons / Batman / Superman / Supergirl porn on /d/ because they wanted to annoy their community. They weren't posting wrestling/skateboarding/xgames to /sp/ to annoy them. They weren't posting /qst/ shit on whatever board its from to annoy them. People posting Bitcoin threads on /g/ who eventually got /biz/ weren't doing it maliciously. They did it because they were the closest boards that even vaguely resembled a place where those things belonged. They all eventually got their own boards where they all share a common interest. Difference between those boards and /vr/? 6th gen was deliberately excluded by the cutoff and therefore against the rules. There should be no threads to hide here from 6th gen because they straight up do not belong here.

(2) Mods chose to limit the discussion here to gens 1-5, even though gen 6 was already falling off of /v/ from 7th and 8th gen already being out and rabidly discussed. Not to mention that 5th gen even met some resistance when /vr/ was first up. So yes, with 6th gen being excluded here means that people are trying to force us to accommodate them. Has nothing to do with "not allowed to have an opinion".

>>3503106
What we should do is make "/vi/" - Intermediate Games". It would host discussion of fifth- and sixth-generation vidya, meaning /vr/ would contain only "true" retro discussion.

>>3503941
>Of course, people who like /vr/ aren't going to support /v2k/
I love /vr/, and I enthusiastically support /v2k/. I think introducing it as a trial board is a very good idea.

>>3504079
(3)
>You don't think 6th gen should be allowed here so you're just spewing vitriol and hate. You're "not allowed to have an opinion" differing from mine so just hide the thread and go away.

Fucking classic.

>>3504072
I think that 6th and 7th, two of the more recent gens (plus probably a little late 5th gen on the side), will likely generate about as much discussion as our five gens do here on /vr/.

>>3504089
They fail to consider the growth of the industry and user base. The Playstation 2 is the best selling console of all time. We worry about being crowded out.

Their 2 or 3 generations will represent more people than our 4 or 5.

>>3504096
Retro gaming is a billion dollar industry, not your secret club

>>3504096
I follow exactly ONE thread on /vg/. If I want to find a thread, I can use the search like a big boy.

>>3504101
What do merchants have to do with anything?

what good 18+ pron content GBA scene have?

>>3504096
>>3504096
>The Playstation 2 is the best selling console of all time. We worry about being crowded out
If this was an issue, the ps2 would still be discussed on /v/.

>>3504089
No one is asking for anything 7th gen, plenty of 7th gen topic are on /v/ still.

>>3504140
>No one is asking for anything 7th gen

Thank you! /v2k/ should be 6th gen and late 5th gen or maybe just add 5th gen

>>3503713
Because the internet killed /b/ culture which itself had already killed multiple boards, including /v/, with shitposting dickheads. They just won the numbers game, and now being on /v/ is about being an elitist asshole over being objective, because debating about games you've never played but heavily researched on youtube is far more satisfying than actually playing it and giving your own subjective opinion open to criticism apparently

That's a lot of 4chan really, replace "gaming" and "play" with appropriate terms and it certainly applies on some board. We're a frail bunch, aren't we?

>>3503728
Seriously, go to >>>/soc/ and just try to act like this is the same website frequented by the same people it was not even five years ago

Most of them left

>>3503746
>80s kids are considered millenials
Citation?

>>3503774
So, do you understand what retro is, and how it relates to the progression of technology?

I'll just say it and see who bothers to connect the dots: Retro is a discription for new things, this can all be solved by ditching the retardedly contradictory "retro" term (as it's reference to style and not age) and adopting the much more sensible "classic" moniker.

>>3503849
You see, this is where the cutoff logic fails. If that were the case, someone can be the ultimate elitist and claim the only good retro game was spacewar and that you're all "plebs with cheap marketing slogans" or whatever.

People specifically called 2600 games "retro games" back in the day, and it still rings true. Only the consoles they'd never call retro at the time are now. You follow?

>>3503854
Maybe that means there's a spectrum, and I'm not just talking about autism

>>3503943
>muh polls

You fagtards realise that they're only indicative of the people that bothered reading through this shitstorm right? What a waste of time

>>3504140
>If this was an issue, the ps2 would still be discussed on /v/.

It's been said multiple times by multiple people that they try to get 6th gen threads going on /v/, but they are quickly pushed off the board from all the 7th and mostly 8th gen posts. With the help of a healthy amount of shitposting.

If /v2k/ were to become a thing, 5th/6th7th gens (or just 5th/6th, or 6th/7th) with the help of the PC explosion that occured around that time would make for a slow comfy board. Alot like /vr/ was upon creation.

>>3504161
no 7th gen

>>3503106
Personally I think 2005 was retro, and I grew up with SNES. Online gaming was around in 2005, but it was nowhere near prevalent, especially on consoles (think I read marketing data showing only 5% of Xbox owners had a live subscription, and online play was even less prevalent on PS2 and nigh nonexistant on gamecube). Gaming was still seen as relatively antisocial behavior then, and "gamer"subculture and the resultant backlash was nonexistant. The industry was very much just emerging into the mainstream. It was such a radically different environment from today, even if the concepts of most game genres had for the most part solidified.

>>3504096
>>3504140
You might have misunderstood me. I was talking about how much discussion 6th and 7th gen would generate on /v2k/ in comparison to what we have on /vr/. I wouldn't want 6th or 7th gen on /vr/.

>>3504140
>plenty of 7th gen topic are on /v/ still.
It goes by too fast. /v2k/ would be better suited. See >>3503223

>>3503106
Holy shit stop making threads about this already we just had one.

>>3504151
>Retro, classic, old, blah blah blah blah blah

Pedantic fucking bullshit. This board was made with 1st-5th gen in mind. Even back in 2013 the PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube, were still considered old just like today. Yet mods still chose to exclude them. People like you bitch about people referring to the cutoff as being autistic, and here you are getting hung up on the fucking name of the board rather than the reason and heart of why it was made in first place.

>You fagtards realise that they're only indicative of the people that bothered reading through this shitstorm right? What a waste of time

Oh you mean the single poll in this thread that's right at the fucking top? You're right, those first few sentences was just a raging shitstorm to read through

>>3504161
3-4 and 5-6 make the most sense. The first two generations were so primitive nobody even talks about them, and the rest are current enough to be on /v/. But some PC anon will chime in and say that it's a retarded way to classify things. Which is why some anons said that instruction sets were the way to go. It's become clear that dates are completely useless for these purposes.

>>3503175
>You faggots are throwing just as much of a tantrum.

Because you faggots can't take the fucking hint YOU'RE NOT WELCOME HERE and keep spamming your shit over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

>>3504165
I can agree with this. One of the reasons i think 6th gen fits in with /vr/ and 7th never will is due to the online boom it brought.

>>3504149
The first 5th gen consoles appeared in the early 1990s. I don't think I'd want to take them away from /vr/. The pace of /vr/ is pretty good as it is. If you want to allow them on both /vr/ and /v2k/, then I suppose that's worth discussing.

>>3504164
I was listing all viable options for it. People have said that even though 7th gen threads might last a bit longer on /v/, in depth discussions can't be had like we have here because of the speed of the board.

>>3503984
>Slippery slope will end with 6th gen anyway since Dreamcast was the foot in the door


but you faggot cocksuckers already said it would end with the DC. point invalid

>/vr/ consoles are analog, and dreamcast was hybrid analog/digital

I want this steampunk fanfic to be fleshed out more, if we are going to keep having this gay GBA thread.

[btw, I don't even like many GBA games, but it ought to be allowed here]

The /v2k/ idea sounds great on paper, but it would be a mess on practice.
Talking about long lasting franchises would be a nightmare.

>>3504149

If we are to create another board for the 5th generation, might as well have a board for 6th too. These two generations don't really mix well. Having a /v5th/, /v6th/, etc., will help organizing everything to its own place. I'm ok with the division.

>>3504210
no

>it's an old autist screaming GBA will never be retro cause he can't handle that time moves on while he's still stuck in 2003 thread

>>3504191
Problem with 6th gen is that that as the generation where the decline of what we liked about gaming started growing at an exponential rate. Sure it started in 5th gen and it started the ball rolling, but for the most part solid gameplay was more valued than flashy graphics. However 6th gen was where it really started gaining momentum, with the whole style over substance, graphics over gameplay, giant budget blockbuster thing others have brought up. The beginning of the super franchises and yearly releases that we see today (Halo, CoD, Battlefield, etc).

>>3504192
5th gen being allowed on both seems ok. I mean posting /vr/ shit on /v/ isn't against the rules is it? So posting the tail end of an era of gaming into a board for 6th / 7th gen stuff seems alright.

>>3504212
>/VR/ UTOPIA!!!! NOW!!!!!

It doesn't work. There's way too much hostility among the parties. Just leave each one to its own.

>>3504210
Nobody anywhere on 4chan has said anything remotely close to wanting a board specifically for 5th gen, ever.

>>3504208
we talk about long lasting franchises here all the time and step outside the retro-zone what are you talking about

>>3504216
>Problem with 6th gen is that that as the generation where the decline of what we liked about gaming started growing at an exponential rate.

Honestly, that began in the 5th generation. It's where whole 2D > 3D started.

>>3504180
5th gen wasn't allowed when /vr/ was created.

>>3504219
Ha ha, nice one. It's all over the place including the one I originally replied to.

>>3504210
Gen 5 meshes better with 6 and 7 a hell of a lot better than Gen 6 would on a board where most of the posts are about gens 3 and 4.

>>3504218
I think late 5th gen should be allowed because games like majoras mask were released in the 2000s

>>3503954
>this thread doesn't have enough Nintendo bashing for my taste

Why do contrarians spew irrelevant vitriol? Oh right because they think their opinion matters any more than the next guy

>>3503992
>what is poe's law

Yeah it is pretty retarded how just under 500000 people use this website and still think they're with some kind of "in-crowd"

This place is essentially a much less moderated facebook fan page

>>3503996
You realise his initial premise is different from the one you're attempting to use, right? You went from

>/vr/ exists because /v/ is too fast and not enough people contribute to keep it alive, even though it's about video games

to

>[irrelevant premise about things existing] [/vr/ is related to the premise because It also exists] therefore [the conclusion I want]

Shut up about your polls and move on with your life you assblasted sperglord, the only reason you care is because you're autistic enough to identify with your hobby so thoroughly that you'll carelessly spew nonsensical vitriol to "prevent" someone from "changing it 4evar!"

Seriously, get over yourself

Also, "likely" -> "I'm totally guessing but you can't disprove it"

The fact the Dreamcast was let in was because of the boner the internet has for the 90's despite the fact that most of the library came out after 2000

By that logic the Wii U was a seventh generation console ya schmuck

>>3504028
Shouting contests beget hurt feelings and exactly zero intelligent discourse

Too bad you're the one that started the shouting

>>3504223
Which I already said right before the part you quoted.

>>3504223
>>3504227
????
5th generation was mostly 2D. Not everyone got stuck with N64

>>3504216
You totally just described the 7th gen, not the 6th.

>>3504220
I know I am being nitpicky, but where I should start a thread if I want to talk about a 4th gen game that got a western release much later, like 6th gen? /v2k/ would confuse me.

Here's how it should go: any hardware with a CPU faster than 100mhz is not allowed on /vr/.

>>3503106
2001 games are indisputably retro. You'd have to be the biggest head in the sand strawmanner to deny that early PS2/gamecube titles have a retro aesthetic in this day and age. Heck even 2005 is getting there, if it weren't for the fact the Xbox 360 came out that year. But /vr/ loves to strawman anyone who thinks 6th gen should be discussed here as an underage milennial babby.

>>3503830
Music doesn't change genres because it gets older. Classic rock doesn't become oldies or neoclassical orchestra music because it's getting older.

>>3504243
I honestly can't tell the difference between PS2 and PS4 games. It all looks the same to me.

>>3504248
Classic rock isnt a genre ya tit. Unless you think people in the 70s called led zeppalin classic rock?

>>3504243
You are making a semantic argument about changing the subject of a board that is not dependent on your semantic view. It's not all retro games. It's retro games from these generations. You're welcome to fuck off to v2k

>>3504254
Okay fine. Romantic music doesn't become baroque because it got another hundred years older. It's still a separate genre. If you went into a baroque message board and told them they should let you talk about romantic music and 'isnt it time romantic music counted as baroque' they would just think you had a cognitive disorder.

>>3504216
Nah man 6th gen was pretty great when you look back on it. Sure at the time it's flaws were felt much more accutely, but you didn't have the incipient casualization of the market due to mobile (the defining characteristic of 8th gen) and the ballooning cost of AAA game production dragging the industry down. The 1-per year calladoody business model was only pioneered in 7th gen with CoD4's runaway success. In 6th gen they only rehashed sports titles every year, never "AAA" games.

Superfranchises have arguably been around since 4th gen with Final Fantasy and Mario. While the problem has arguably gotten worse with each successive gen, it has definitely been around a long time.

>>3504258
This board was designed to talk about old games. Ps2 16 years old. We should be able to talk about it without triggering your autism

>>3504210
>/v5th/, /v6th/
ugh no. Just name it /vr2/ /vr3/, whatever

>>3504216
Halo had two games on xbox. Megaman had fucking 6 on the nes.

>>3504216
>5th gen being allowed on both seems ok. I mean posting /vr/ shit on /v/ isn't against the rules is it? So posting the tail end of an era of gaming into a board for 6th / 7th gen stuff seems alright.
Well said, those are good points.

>>3504262
Fuck off. If they'd have wanted consoles to get added over time they would have specified such in the goddamn sticky.

>>3504268
Crash bandicoot had 5 games on the ps1

>>3504242
Oh boy, the GBA and the DS is allowed then!

>>3504275
Sounds fine to me. DS was like a portable PSX in terms of specs.

>>3504272

>>3504286
>he saves images of feminists
See, this is the kind of cancer we don't want around here if we ever allowed all of sixth gen on /vr/.

>>3504297

>>3504297
/vr/ already has the cancer.

Just look at half the new threads we get
>What did he mean by this
>Now that the dust has settled
>SEGA VS NINTENDO
>/org/
>kiddo

>>3504297
Slaneeshi cultist.jpg

>>3504232
>You realise his initial premise is different from the one you're attempting to use, right?

Yeah he made a great argument by picking and choosing a random bit of it.

"/vr/ was split from /v/ because /vr/ posts were being pushed off the board, much the same reason these guys want 6th gen here. Main problem with this? /vr/ posts were not against /v/ rules, however 6th gen posts are most certainly against the rules here."

He completely ignored and pretended this didn't exist.

"/vr/ posts were not against /v/ rules, HOWEVER 6TH GEN POSTS ARE MOST CERTAINLY AGAINST THE RULES HERE."

So yes, since he ignored that bit his argument essentially amounted to "Hey other boards have reasons to exist just like /vr/, so that means 6th gen should totally be allowed here". It was on him to articulate himself in a manner where he could be understood. All the "non sensible vitriol" came after he insinuated I was a retard, and asking if I went to fucking school. But hey, he wants the same thing you want. So in your eyes he's a saint and I'm the asshole.

>Shut up about your polls and blah blah blah sperglord autism you're a total nerd and I'm not.

I mentioned that the polls were flawed. Even without the polls there are way more people voicing their disdain for 6th gen being included than those who want it here.

>The fact the Dreamcast was let in was because of the boner the internet has for the 90's despite the fact that most of the library came out after 2000. By that logic the Wii U was a seventh generation console ya schmuck.

The prevailing argument was release date, not the internet's boner for the 90's. No one here considers Dreamcast 5th gen. Some call it gen 5.5 which is retarded. It's a mostly irrelevant failure of a 6th gen console (there are some good games for it I'm sure, but it didn't last long) that absolutely slid in because of its short life span and release date technicality. So no, that logic does not make Wii U 7th gen at all.

>>3504232

>Shouting contests beget hurt feelings and exactly zero intelligent discourse. Too bad you're the one that started the shouting.

See >>3503932

>Just because you don't like that idea, doesn't make the point any less valid, and I explained it well enough that most RETARDS would understand it.

>You need to back that up with points and explain them like I did. Did you go to fucking school?

Yeah I totally fucking started it.

>>3504268
FIFA had 14 mainline games, 2 FIFA Street, 2 World Cup. 2 Euro Cup and 2 UEFA Champions League games on the PS2.

Obviously didn't include everything in there. But am I wrong? Is this not logical, in terms of a technological, cultural and industry divide. It's worth noting that the very first E3 was held in 1995. GameFAQs created in 1995. IGN in 1996.

>>3504309
>What did he mean by this
>Now that the dust has settled
That's just some butthurt /v/irgin falseflagging to make /vr/ look bad.

>>SEGA VS NINTENDO
I see nothing wrong with this. Does competition cause you to shit yourself?

>/org/
It's on topic with the board, though.

>kiddo
Oh, so you are an insecure child.

>>3504262
Except it wasn't. It lists specific generations of games. PS2 existed and was old when the board was made. But it wasn't included.

>>3504256
>You are making a semantic argument about changing the subject of a board that is not dependent on your semantic view. It's not all retro games. It's retro games from these generations. You're welcome to fuck off to v2k

>It's not all retro games. It's retro games from these generations.

>It's retro games from these generations.

Everyone read this as hard as you fucking can. It's just this fucking simple.

All of 6th gen was already old when this board was made. They were excluded for a reason, they don't fit in with gens 1-5.

>>3504272
It does say "for now" may be should ask the mods or Japmoot when it'll change?

>>3504348
It won't. Hiro doesn't care about /vr/ like moot did.

>>3504332
Sega v nintendo threads are nothing but shitposting and people complaing about them shitposting

/org/ is a circlejerk and bait thread

Kiddo is used exclusively by projecting assholes.

>>3504056
>Who is more stubborn and fixated in their beliefs in that situation?

it's less about being stubborn and more about having the sense to not hang around people who are just gonna call you a faggot anyways.

There are no shortages of places to talk about the GBA. You don't need to force it into a place that clearly doesn't want it.

>>3504338
We cant let 6th gen because there would be too many mgs2 and 3 threads

>>3504341
>All of 6th gen was already old when this board was made. They were excluded for a reason, they don't fit in with gens 1-5.
I agree with this completely.

>>3504348
>This board is for the discussion of classic, or "retro" games. Retro gaming means consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games on platforms launched in 1999 and earlier. With the release of the 8th generation of consoles, the Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro", though the remainder of the sixth generation (Xbox, PS2, GameCube) will not.

Can you point out where it says for now? From what I remember they were on the fence about allowing Dreamcast in because it was before the cutoff date despite being 6th gen, and it had a short life span. After 8th gen came out they said fuck it whatever and let it slide.

>>3504356
>There are no shortages of places to talk about the GBA.

Ha ha ha, no!
You can make a thread on /v/ that will last about an hour, a thread on /vg/ that will get loads of shitposts, or a thread on reddit that will either get like 5 replies or 1900 worthess nostalgia posts deprnding on where you post it

None of those options provide any actual discussion.

>>3504369
>a thread on /vg/ that will get loads of shitposts
Same will happen here. Even if the mods greenlight GBA, you can't expect most of /vr/ to just go along with it.

Faggot.

>>3504079
>They did it because they were the closest boards that even vaguely resembled a place where those things belonged

Yeah, exceptions to rules. I mentioned that, and how it still annoyed people because autism (i.e. right now)

>6th gen was deliberately excluded by the cutoff and therefore against the rules

Yes, because it appears nobody on here wants to acknowledge that there are people browsing on this board that weren't even born when they were first playing vidya, and that "cutting them off" merely assumes improved posting quality due to "less cancerous console discussion" instead of tackling the real issue: Everyone's general disillusionment with the game industry and how 6th gen played a fundamental role in the widespread adoption of corporate business ideologies over taking risks with creativity, arguably the best generation to do so

Yes, games were advertised for realism and not fun, that's how marketing works. Focus may have shifted from gameplay to visuals (because duh), but that didn't stop genuinely good games from being released and attaining fanbases. Hell, visuals have _always_ been a selling point, but that's also conveniently ignored because "muh retro aesthetic"

Nobody but stubborn self righteous arrogant pricks personally identify with the things they buy, and there's no real reason to get offended over some people wanting a different but still relevant conversation simply because it doesn't fit your personal definition of the subjective term "retro" or "classic".

You know the last time I saw a thread on /v/ about a 6th gen console that actually did well? Like 2008. And even then people would still fall for "what console should I buy guise"

>>3504364
You know, right now we're talking about including the GBA, but not the 6th or 7th gen, despite both of those being really old by now.

See the similarities?

Back when they made the sticky, 6th gen wasn't as old as it is now.

>>3504321
Fifa had yearly releases since the genny

>>3504265
NO
We need /Atari2600G/

>>3504362
Theres a metal gear thread up atm talking about those anyway

>>3504297

you seem upset friendo

>>3503106
>>>3504262
>Except it wasn't. It lists specific generations of games. PS2 existed and was old when the board was made. But it wasn't included.

Gen6 was still actively talked about on /v/ 4 years ago. And 8th gen wasnt a thing yet. Its time to update the rules babe

>>3504383
The 2600 has, at most, two dozen interesting games that aren't arcade ports. Although it would be hilarious if we had a board for it. We'd go full /tg/ and write baroque back stories for the most primitive one-button shmups. You haven't lived until you've played the 7800 version of Robotron with two Genesis pads.

>>3504398
6th Gen is NOT retro.

>>3504391
>>3504314
>>3504304
>>3504286
Who let the meme-spouting /v/ kiddies out of their designated shithole?

>>3504380
That was two years ago you fucking retard...
Please tell me kids like you won't be roaming around /vr/ when Hiro doesn't allow 6th gen around here.

>>3504409
Remember

2 years seems longer to kids than adults.

>>3504402
Neither is gen 1-5

>>3504416

>>3504416
So change /vr/ to /cv/ - Classic Vidya. And also CastleVania.

When will Hiro make /v2k/?

I'm tired of this stupid debate and just want somewhere I can actually discuss the GBA

>>3504421
Id be okay with this. Ps2 is vintage right?

>>3504429
Here you go, familia:

>>3501362

>>3504420
Dictionaries don't lie dumbass

>>3504432
Definitions of words change over time, retard.

Retro in the context of /vr/ means classic or old.

>>3504431
Already there.

That thread usually gets something like 30% ">NOT RETRO" shitposters in it.

>>3504378
I'm gonna assume you weren't directing that autism comment towards me because I actually agree with a lot of what you say in the next part.

>Yes, because it appears nobody on here wants to acknowledge ... arguably the best generation to do so

Totally agree on this whole block

>Yes, games were advertised for realism and not fun, that's how marketing works. Focus may have shifted from gameplay to visuals (because duh), but that didn't stop genuinely good games from being released and attaining fanbases. Hell, visuals have _always_ been a selling point, but that's also conveniently ignored because "muh retro aesthetic"

I mostly agree. Up until Gen 5 games sank or swam based on how well they played. Yeah graphics were a contributing factor, a game with shit graphics and solid gameplay might not be picked up and recognized as a good game quite as much as a game that had solid gameplay and graphics. It wasn't until Gen 5 that games could actually be propped up by graphics while having mediocre or even below average gameplay and still be considered good. However Gen 5 still had many many games where gameplay came first and graphics came second, but still had both in spades. Gen 6 to me is where ultra realism started being a selling point and games could be propped up by graphics alone. As far as "muh retro aesthetic", gens 1-4 fundamentally look and play differently from the vast majority of 6. Gen 5 was the last to have the best of both worlds, great gameplay and great (from hardware limitations at the time) graphics.

>>3504378
>Nobody but stubborn self righteous arrogant pricks personally identify with the things they buy, and there's no real reason to get offended over some people wanting a different but still relevant conversation simply because it doesn't fit your personal definition of the subjective term "retro" or "classic".

Mostly agree. I don't think most of the people seriously discussing this are getting offended by the dialog. I just think that against crowd's biggest and most viable argument is that 6th gen just does not belong here. 6th gen was already considered ancient back in `13 when this board was created, yet it was still excluded. If what you said is true about /v/'s last serious gen 6 discussion was back around `08, 5 years before /vr/'s creation, then to me that just solidifies that argument. I think whoever made this board had a clear vision as to what they wanted, that vision being discussion about Gens 1-4 (and later 5 for the above stated reasons. The best of both worlds bit).

>>3504439
At least the mods delete the NOT RETRO shitposts.

>>3504437
That's true. But not in this case. Moot just used the wrong word. As do most of the idiots here. And dictionary's get updated when that happens. Random message boards on the internet don't decide what words mean.

/film/ just 403d
come on 2nook /v2k/ pls

>>3504441

I honestly would like some examples of games that sold on graphics alone because I can think of plenty of great looking (for the time) games that didn't sell because they played like shit.

>>3503106

People aren't going to switch boards because we start allowing sixth gen, unless /v/ starts banning people for talking about sixth gen. Which wouldn't matter considering the only rules enforced somewhat consistently on /v/ are the global rules.

Like anything else that has been added 6th Gen will nestle into it's own little tempo and be fine just like everything else. Shit Gen V doesn't even get talked about all that much outside of specific games in a general sense.

The shit posting will only increase out of spite (be honest with yourselves) and eventually those who have nothing better to do than falseflag or spam "Not Retro" will eventually calm down or be banned as is tradition. I'm only a few years from thirty now, people just a few years earlier and a few years later than me associate their childhood's with completely different things and that is honestly okay. I, like the games and shows I grew up with are a product of the time, and that's o-fuckin'-kay.

Time has moved on, there is an entire generation of children that don't understand the massive shift to post 9/11 America because they were born and have grown up after it. I can play the same computer games that were advanced and futuristic in my childhood on flat box in my pocket. The same box that can fit days of music, download entire series of books in seconds, and load any webpage on demand in seconds. The future is fucking here people.

The capabilities of the GBA are comparable to that of 4th and 5th Gen systems. We're arguing over a system that is simultaneously better and worse than the SNES.

Allow the GBA and shelve the 6th gen debate for another couple of years.

>>3504084
As if I'd make such a baseless statement. Read a little closer this time:

>Basically spam your vitriol

"State your well researched opinion"

>...and then hide the thread

"and immediately leave because your subjective opinion leaves no logical reasoning as to why 6th gen isn't allowed besides "it just isn't"; Your endless typing will result in you becoming frustrated at kids these days and no one's stance will change, because taste is subjective and you're not going to convince anyone by yelling nonsense at them"

It's a lot to infer, I should have expected that you weren't entirely self-aware if you actually think shouting would adequately get your point across beyond "I don't like thing">>3504151

But I bet you'd like to think you can stop it by typing "u breakin' da LAW!!1", wouldn't you?

>>3504096
And those crowding threads will forever have the stigma of being more asset than game and will more than likely be taken less seriously than the artistry of making a good game with mere megs of information

>>3504180
>here you are getting hung up over the name

I really don't care that much, I just like knotting up your panties because you'd much rather have 4chan host an entire new board that costs bandwidth over renaming the board for sake of clarity and inclusion for practically nothing

So pay attention this time: There was a time when 16-bit games were the shit and there were weird elitist enthusiasts that praise the creativity machine that was the Atari. Now all people care about are third gen+ games because of the credit they get from posting an instagram photo of a game series everyone knows while the Atari goes largely ignored nowadays.

So if that was a little fast for you, at least understand this: Age is subjective relative to the observer's age, making cutoff dates especially pointless on the internet (not even considering hand-me-down systems like I got)

>>3504190
mr can't prove his point

Make /v2k/.

Follow the fucking rules of this board, it was a really nice board for a short while till everyone started bitching about every little thing. The oldest gens barely have thread time as it is, w/ the addition of just the gba, I'd presume a MINIMUM of ten threads going for it at a time. This would also influx a bunch of user base that most likely haven't even played most retro systems.

So not only do you increase the pace of a board that's supposed to relatively slow moving, you bring an influx of people that genuinely don't care much about the other systems. Knowing that, and the general nature of the site, there will be even more spillage over of shitposting into all threads. It will be the equivalent of throwing gasoline on a burning trash heap. Which, regardless if you want to acknowledge it or not, will pave the way for sixth gen. See the trend of dreamcast, followed by your theoretical allowance of gba, and then who cares. It's fucking goalpost moving. The rules defined retro under this board as pre-2000. That's it, so why do you all insist on these clauses to allow post-2000? Just because the name is retro you somehow believe that it should be this all encompassing term that adapts as time changes. The board should've been something like 20th century games so you numb nuts wouldn't of had your strawman ability to latch on the term retro.

This thread is proof that console babbies are the cancer that killed /v/, /vcom/ can't come soon enough. Also, not allowing x86 there seems reasonable enough since shills got /g/.

>>3504151
There you go >>3503930

>>3504554
If you're getting a computer gaming board, can we also get an arcade gaming board?

>>3504554
>not allowing x86 there seems reasonable enough
no it doesn't
/g/ doesn't like video games

>>3504546
>Follow the fucking rules of this board
Follow the fucking rules of this site.

Shitposting, flaming, announcing sage, off-topic replies, uncalled-for catchphrases, complaining about moderation, you lot do all of this shit.

I WANT MY /V2K/

>>3504576
You massive nonce, none of this would get brought up at all if you'd follow the rules. Are you that blinded by your own wants that you can't see that your sides inability to accept the status of the board is what ignites it all? You are the tinder to the raging inferno of shit that you see here. Without your sides "demands", every single shitpost and retaliation towards the sixth gen issue would cease.

>>3504593
holy fucking shit dude
how many layers of fucking fedoras do you have on right now god damn

>>3504546
>MINIMUM of ten threads
Yeah just like that flood of Gen V threads that flood the board all the time right?

The only reason the oldest gens get so little thread time is because, generally due to the linearity of the passage of time they represent the smallest minority of the board experience wise. Early console games we're archaic and often very basic due to the limitations of the technology. Due to their inherit simplicity there is only so much discussion about them has to offer and thus they hold little interest for the majority of the board.

That aside if they interest you so much instead of spending your time spamming "Not Retro" and telling people to "follow the rules" why don't you make a thread about them. Contribute some content to the board rather than flooding it with the bitching you claim everyone else is doing.

>>3504543
>no logical reasoning as to why 6th gen isn't allowed here besides "it just isn't".

see >>3504445
>I just think that against crowd's biggest and most viable argument is that 6th gen just does not belong here. 6th gen was already considered ancient back in `13 when this board was created, yet it was still excluded. If what you said is true about /v/'s last serious gen 6 discussion was back around `08, 5 years before /vr/'s creation, then to me that just solidifies that argument. I think whoever made this board had a clear vision as to what they wanted, that vision being discussion about Gens 1-4 (and later 5 for the above stated reasons. The best of both worlds bit).

>I really don't care that much ..... (not even considering hand-me-down systems like I got)

Wow, you even linked to one of my posts where I give a very simple logical reason why 6th gen wasn't and shouldn't be allowed here before responding to it with... whatever that was.

Honestly I'm done with you. You stick out like a sore thumb because you can't seem to say anything without being a condescending little shit. It's hilarious that you stated you were 20 (who totally had an atari growing up IM JUST LIKE YOU GUYS I SWEAR) earlier because your posts reek of "Hey guys I'm in college and I know fucking everything". You're spewing vitriol with the best of them in this thread, and yet you have the fucking nerve to talk down to people who respond harshly to it. As if you're on some fucking pedestal looking down on the rest of us because we aren't being civil towards uncivilized bullshit.

Well as I said before, you stick out like a sore thumb so it'll be easy enough to ignore you. You have a blessed life big college man. Oh, and grab a thesaurus because this is the 10th time you've used vitriol in this thread. Variety is the spice of life, you'll learn that once you grow the fuck up.

>>3504561
Yes, /va/ sounds okay. We probably should have had /vcon/ in the first place too. Not to mention /v/ should change to /vnew/ - gaymer hype.

>>3504562
Valid point.

>>3504603
There doesn't need to be any reasoning besides that it is off topic.

So for all of you suggesting a /v2K/ board how are you going to make that happen?

This is a Showa era, Berlin Wall divided, Kowloon Walled City standing, commies still at large kind of place. And by fucking god it is going to stay that way.

>>3504610
We can't.

The idea is for a mod or Hiro to pick the idea up and do it.

>>3504610
hiroshimoot makes the board
the people who are interested post in it
what are you trying to ask?

>>3504606
>>3504561
>>3504554
we shouldn't divide this board into 1000 tiny, really slow pieces
/vr/ and /v2k/. that's all we need.

>>3504621
>>3504617
How will he know?

>>3504632
he is reading this thread right now
maybe
probably not
do we have a thread on /qa/?

>>3504634
no

>>3504635
we should have a thread on /qa/

>>3504636
make one then

>>3504641
will do family

>>3504647
I would say link it when its up but we don't want to invite the cancer from this thread into there. I'll find it at some point and vote in favor.

>>3504216
>Problem with 6th gen is that that as the generation where the decline of what WE liked about gaming started growing at an exponential rate.

And who are you to say that people didn't like more storage space and multimedia functions? Laziness in game design has always existed, it's just way more obvious with 3D rendered games, moreso with online forums.

That's like complaining that not every NES game was made for the intent of delivering an enjoyable experience. Yeah people are snakes

>for the most part solid gameplay was more valued than flashy graphics.

Oh yeah that's why the Dreamcast outsold the PS2, because of all the fantastic games available for the Dreamcast. People loved dropping hundreds of dollars on a dedicated gaming machine, just to play games and occasionally email people with. DVD? More like Laserdisk amirite? Hahaha...

Seriously though, the only thing wrong with 6th gen was the focus on delivering "experiences", which just turned out to be weak and pretentious usually

>>3504252
Consider upgrading to a flatscreen

>>3504254
No, they called it "rock". Unless you think the name wasn't changed even though there's tons of sub-genres?

>>3504272
If they actually cared about board upkeep this place would have been moderated instead of placed in the hands of bored janitors

>>3504297
>I don't want to report people that shitpost because I find it pointless and ineffective :(

Yeah well go cry about it drama queen

>>3504315
>So yes, since he ignored that bit his argument essentially amounted to "Hey other boards have reasons to exist just like /vr/, so that means 6th gen should totally be allowed here"

...Because 6th gen is old...

Following me here?

...and was being pushed off just like the other old system threads...

Pay attention, this is the important part:

... 6th gen has the same justification of being here...

This is the part where you get tripped up usually

...as the rest of /vr/'s content to begin with! Understand? next...

>>3504651
it's up now. find it

>>3504661

>>3504378
>You know the last time I saw a thread on /v/ about a 6th gen console that actually did well? Like 2008. And even then people would still fall for "what console should I buy guise"
Either you're full of shit (which wouldn't surprise me because you sound like a fucking politician) or you browse this website with your eyes shut because 6th gen is discussed relatively often on /v/. Heck, there was even a Timesplitters thread a couple weeks ago and it lasted two fucking days.