/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3496931
If GBA is allowed, you'll have no excuse not to allow PS2, Xbox, Gamecube and Wonderswan Colour as well.

>implying people won't try to add more than one vote
silly, retarded anon. this isn't /v/.
sage.

>>3496931
Stick to the contention thread you just linked, thank you. We already told you making a poll is useless since everyone is going to vote multiple times for things to go their way.

>>3496934
>Wonderswan Colour
All of the hipsters on this board suck it's dick for the same reason as the dreamcast and n-gage.

>>3496931
I think this >>3496719 is the best solution. A /v2k/ board would be fun.

I vote yes on GBA.

Allowing GBA means that GameCube will come into the picture since a lot of GBA games have connectivity features with the GameCube and also the Game Boy Player. Not gonna happen.

>>3496934
>If you legalize pot, you'll be forced to legalize heroin and meth.

[you wrong fucking retard]

>>3497032
Can you prove him wrong though?

What basis do you have for allowing GBA but not the rest of gen 6?

This will be the final nail in /vr/'s coffin. I'm ready to see this board crash and burn.

>>3497029
>allowing the PS1 means allowing the PS2 since the PS2 has backwards connectivity with PS1 games

If you allow GBA, every kid will cry for the rest of 6th gen to release.

>>3497034
It does not have capabilities of 6th gen. It's more limited than super nintendo. And it's from 2001, when I was 17. I'm fucking 32 now. Come off it.

>>3497034
It's graphics and gameplay are very similar to consoles we already talk about.

A bunch of retro series continue onto the GBA before getting a modern redesign.

You'd have to be retarded to think a GBA and Xbox are similar.

>>3496934
>>3497034
GBA was the last system in the Gameboy line, it's underpowered compared to the other system from that gen, plus it has direct sequels to classic /vr/ staples, such as 2D Metroid and Castlevania (though the latter is doubtful due to also having sequels on the DS, Aria of Sorrow is considered hands-down the best Castlevania outside of SotN)..

>>3497047
See above.

>>3497053
*other systems

Being in the middle sucks. I truly wouldn't mind GBA discussion but I can't help but fight the idea that it really is a gateway to the other systems of the gen, which could lead to rolling inclusion over the years. I understand the reason why it's fixed, but sometimes I really just want GBA to slip in just because.

>>3497043
>backwards connectivity

>>3496931

NEW BOARD

NEW BOARD

>>3497053
GBA Metroids feels nothing like the retro entries. Or any 4th gen game for that matter. GBA is its own thing, just like the GB wasn't a NES with green sprites.

better poll
http://www.strawpoll.me/11227406

>>3497072
cool subjective opinion feels

>>3497084
Just like yours? How is Fusion closer to Super Metroid and the Nes games than to modern Metroidvanias?

>>3497096
Modern ones like what exactly? I don't play anything "modern" excepting psp which is a generation behind, and sometimes ps2 which is old as hell too.
Are there new Castlevanias and Metroids in 3d that are similar to the 2d games you are butthurt about?

Let me answer for you: fuck no.
If they are like the PS1 castlevania then what the fuck is your problem, as PS1 is retroooo

>>3497079

>>3497024

I'm all for a second board. This board has a scope of its own.

We need 2 boards: everything up to 5th gen, and the 6th gen. 7th gen doesn't need its own board. DC and GBA should go over to the second board.

>>3497024
I agree.

>>3497145
/vr/ needs to be until 4th gen. PS1 was the first modern console.

>>3497043

Anything before the 360, PS3, and Wii should be allowed senpai

>>3497149
There is nothing modern about the PS1.

>it's another "W-W-W-WELL IT'S RETRO TO *ME*" thread

>>3497152
Cutscenes over gameplay and graphics whoring isn't modern for you?

>>3497126
Why do you assume I'm butthurt? You're the one desperately crying to get things your way here.

Fusion constantly holds your hand, tells you where to go and interrupts the pacing with cutscenes, just like the modern Metroidvanias a la Shadow Complex.

>>3497153

>>3497161
Croc, Banjo Kazooie, and so on all do this, so you want to force N64 and PS1 onto their own board, because... why exactly? Why is it that this ancient hardware just isn't ancient enough for you?
Show us on the doll where nintendo touched you

get out

>>3497149
I agree with a two generation split.
3-4, 5-6, 7-8 (v), etc.

>>3497172
Do what? Croc and Banjo Kazooie aren't Metroidvanias. My god anon calm down, you're going to have a stroke.

>>3497160
>1 ps1 game out of thousands
>he's probably okay with pre-32 bit jrpgs and their massive textdumps that aren't functionally different than cutscenes
>"they didn't push graphics over gameplay back then" revisionism

>>3497149
>>3497152
It's an alright decision too. Anyway, I think one thing can be said for certain: if GBA was allowed, this board would wind up very fragmented and cluttered, with barely connected things all shoved into its scope.

Different people call different things "retro". So, just to make a clear rule, not based on "I feel this way", there needs to be an established, objective criteria for what's allowed on this board. I think console generations fill this role 100%.

But at the same time, if /vr/ ends on year 2000, this creates an obvious 15-year gap between the current gen and /vr/. So I think /vr2/ or /vr2k/ is the only real way out of this situation.

>>3497204
>allowing 6th gen will flood /vr/ with GTA 3 & Kingdom Hearts threads
only 2 games out of hundreds of thousands :^)
it's not like GTA 3 & Kingdom of Hearts are different to /vr/ sandbox games :^))

No, we already have a pokemon board.

>>3497204
>1 ps1 game out of thousands
ALL of the PS1 best-sellers.

>he's probably okay with pre-32 bit jrpgs and their massive textdumps that aren't functionally different than cutscenes
Half of those games weren't RPG's.

>"they didn't push graphics over gameplay back then" revisionism
5th gen was the first gen to start pushing 3D over 2D which it deemed archaic and dated. Just take a look at the Saturn's failure, the PS1's early anti-2D policy, or the N64 in general.

Not to mention it was the first gen in which home consoles have finally started ousting arcades, and home pc's started ousting home consoles to an extent.

>>3496931
No, faggot. Not retro, never will be. Keep gen 6 off /vr/. We don't need this shit here.

>>3497213
can't we compromise, though? GBA, and not the rest of the 6th gen? because the PS2 is in no way, shape, or form, retro! if you grew up playing PS2 games, then I feel sorry for you. that shit is not retro.

they don't play Nirvana or Limp Bizkit on Classic Rock stations, do they? you don't hear Boyz 2 Men on Oldies stations, do you? Classic Rock is not "rock older than 20 years." it is specifically rock made between the mid 60's and late 70's. Oldies is not just any R&B. it is early Motown R&B.

Retro games are from the early, gameplay centric period of gaming. once the 6th gen hit, it was about massive budgets and massive profits, not small developers wrangling esoteric hardware to try and get their artistic vision to life. gaming stopped being weird and nerdy, when it hit the mainstream. it was less of a hobby and more entertainment.

this board should to be a refuge from online multiplayer and annualized sequels. this board is about systems where you put in a game and turned the power on. systems where it takes five minutes to log in to your profile, connect to a server, and then scroll past a page of ads before you get to your game.

I don't want to turn this into an old man rant, but I am an old man. Please, talk about PS2 on /v/. I love my PS2, like i love my PS3, but i loved my Saturn more.

j/k, I am not that old. there are some old fuckers, on this board.

>>3497263
>Classic Rock is not "rock older than 20 years."
Do they not understand periodization? We're all trying to be supportive in the compromise of a new board, and I'm sure many of us would enjoy posting about 6th games there. It just doesn't belong here.

GBA is awesome.

Leave /vr/ and tell hiro to make /v2k/

>>3497263
Actually my local "classic rock" stations do play Nirvana quite a bit, as well as a lot of other 90s bands.

>>3496931
I would like GBA.
Because of the hardware limitations, the game design and aesthetics are more "retro" than most 5th gen games.

This reminds me of why, as much as I want, a retro version of /a/ likely won't happen. What would be the cutoff year for retro anime? That'd be a huge problem, just like this is a huge problem.

No one definition of "retro" exists. Some believe it is firmly set in place while others think it is up to the individual. Some people feel the Gamecube is retro. Others don't consider the PS1 retro.

>>3497263

What classic rock stations are you listening to? They totally play 90s music on them. It's mostly 60s through 80s but I hear 90s stuff too. In the coming years, it's undeniabe we'll hear more 90s music. Retro rap and hiphop songs are pretty much entirely 90s.

>>3497312

There's suspiciously too much colors, though. I like GBA too but I see what they're talking about.

Reminder this is not retro

>>3497475
But this is

>>3497056
The Dreamcast is already the gateway.

>>3496931
Most people really don't care if the GBA is being discussed here as long as no-one's being a faggot about it. The system is old enough that it holds nostalgia for a lot of people and is fairly retro, even if it's in a different way from the original gameboy.

>>3497032
Except that's exactly what happened by allowing the Dreamcast.

>Why isn't the Dreamcast allowed? It was released in 1999!
>Why isn't the GBA allowed? It was released in 2001 when the Dreamcast was still alive!
>Why aren't the PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube allowed? They were released in 2001 when the GBA was!
>Why isn't the DS allowed? It was released when the PS2, Gamecube, Xbox, and GBA were all still getting games!
>Why isn't the Xbox 360 allowed? It was released a year after the DS was!
>Why aren't the PS3 and Wii allowed? They were released the year after the Xbox 360 and while the DS was still getting games!

Do you see the fucking pattern here?

Also, look at the image attached to this post to see what kinds of threads you'd be inviting on to /vr/.

>>3497595
>Muh slippery slope!

>>3497601
People like you said exactly the same thing when you were constantly whining about how the Dreamcast should be included and people gave you the exact same reasons why it shouldn't. What do you know, the people who argued it's a slippery slope were right, as evidenced by this thread and countless other threads we've had about the GBA since the Dreamcast was allowed.

>>3497306
v2k is a cool acronym.

>>3497263
What are you talking about video games were always about profit.

>>3496931
You know, it is strange that the Wonderswan Color versions of Final Fantasy I & II can be discussed here, but not the GBA version, despite being the same exact games bundled together on a single cartridge. And I mean they're exactly the same, from music to graphics. WSC's specs are also way closer to a GBA than a GBC.

Fun fact. You have a board like /vr/ where the GBA is considered retro. It's on the other chan.

No more fucking special snowflake exemptions for consoles. We had that with the Dreamcast and the board quality went down immediately afterwards.

I think it should, you don't have to let the ps2 neither the gc, /vr its about retro games and there's no 6th gen console that looks and feel more retro than de gba.

I don't want WoW, Kingdom Hearts, Persona and Melee to dominate the board, and allowing GBA threads opens up the possibility of those games being allowed, too.

>>3496931
Why is it whenever you GBAfags get told off in one thread you gotta go try and create another?

>most people ITT are fine with the GBA itself, but are worried about the slippery slope.

Would throwing in a "you can't even discuss a PS2 unban until 2020" appease people?

>>3496931
The /v2k/ idea is getting a lot of talk in the other thread.
>>3497516

How about no polls and no anything at fucking all?
>hurr slippery slope
Its happening right now anyways, people first wanted dreamcast, now they want GBA and watch as in the next year they will want PS2/XBox/GCN.
1999 better stay as the cutoff until the next fucking decade.
>hurr make new board
Yeah, let's split /v/ AGAIN. Might as well go to /vg/ and make a general called vidya 2000 so you can have your own fucking personal circlejerk you bunch of niggers.
>hurr durr newfags ruining ma /vr/
suck it.
>waaah /v/ is shit
and so what, you think /vr/ is the lesser of evils or do you idiots don't remember the clusterfuck that were LSD vs CRT threads or the castlevania threads (which are 100% shitposting) or PAL vs NTSC or emulators vs physical?
This board has about as much flamewars as /v/, just under a different name and even then, its still the same chums who want to "mock the plebs with my patrician taste". Go ahead and try to deny it. I found better retro discussion of videogames at /b/'s nostalgia threads than this damn board because EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME there is a flamewar coming out of nowhere, go ahead and try to talk about castlevania, i dare you.

>>3497771
This'll inevitably end up with multiple sub-/v/s among the years.
/v/ and /vr/ to complement it is enough.

no.

>>3496959
Dreamcast actually has some decent arcade games and shit like JSR and Shenmue though. The others are shit.

>>3497781
The end date for /v2k/ could be adjusted in a few years. It might not even need to be done until 5 or maybe even 10 years from now. I don't think any more splits would be necessary at any time that I could foresee.

GBA looks retro, but so do a lot of modern indie games. What really makes the GBA different from the rest of 6th gen?

>>3497776
Geeez calm the fuck down man, you'll get a heart attack or something

>>3497024
This for sure. Might as well split /v/ up even more, fuck it.

>>3497789
Are you serious?
They were made like that because that was all the graphics the console could handle, the indie games are just emulating that visual style.

>>3497781
we gotta think about the long term. will PS4 eventually be allowed in v2k? or will we have to make another sub-/v/? /vr/ is a very rigid board in terms of what is allowed and generally it's all analog technology being discussed here.

>>3497786
I just don't understand why we couldn't adjust the end date for /vr/ instead of creating a new board.

>>3497801
The GBA could do 3D. PS2 games were made the way they were because that was all the graphics the PS2 could handle.

If the GBA is allowed, does that mean the Game Boy Player is allowed? If the Game Boy Player is allowed, does that mean that the Gamecube is allowed since it's needed for the Game Boy Player? If the Gamecube is allowed, why aren't the Xbox or PS2?

Where are you drawing your line? The line must be drawn or else /vr/ is pointless.

>First /vr/ didn't allow 5th gen and even on the allowed consoles only games released until 1999
http://archived.moe/vr/thread/2/
Now 3 years later:
>People consider making a console legal that still got more than 10 games every year until 2007


If anything /vr/ time should run slower than real time and not three times as fast.

>>3497808
I think this guy >>3497802 said it pretty well regarding the period of time most people consider to be retro, which might not ever change. Also, I fear that allowing a whole new game gen on /vr/ would speed the board up too much.

>>3496931
IMO yes, because the console is dead and games on it are similar in principle, action and mechanics to ones from SNES.


Honestly, discussions on this board aside from a few dedicated communities (Romhacks, doom thread, Coster and a few others) have dried down and degenerated into cesspools of broken record circlejerks that repeat themselves on monthly basis. I've seen exactly same pointless threads with exactly same answers, that some times are even derailed in exactly same way.

This board needs at least some infusion of fresh things to discuss, or it will simply wither and die.


However, no GC/PS2/XBawks nonesense. While games in late 80s - 90's were generally the same in action, principle and mechanics, Sixth gen made too huge of a leap towards "cinematic experience", and that came in bundled with a whole pile of things we hate now in the modern game industry.

>>3497819
pretty sure the dumbass who made that post thought 5th gen was PS2. otherwise I hope they got fired.

>>3497808
>>3497813

Most people here loves or at least like a game or two from the gba, and consider them retro, idk why don't discuss them here, WE DON'T HAVE TO LET THE OTHER CONSOLES IN. Most people don't consider ps2, gc and xbox retro enough to be on /vr

>>3497825
"Cinematic experience" already came in the 5th gen. This is why 5th gen shouldn't belong on /vr/ either.

>>3497789
Handhelds are always one-two gens behind in terms of games/hardware.

So while GBA is technically 6th gen, it has all the capabilities and properties of fourth gen (it's basically a handheld version of SNES with some improvements)

Wonderswan is the same.

>>3497802
Yeah but the thing about that is there are still paintings being made in the style of renaissance, victorian, etc. that are regarded as such.

You wouldn't tolerate a shitty indie game in the style of old NES games, would you? The art world does. Thus, that's a bad metaphor.

This whole board is built on a kind of unspoken standard based off the vague sticky; 2000 is the cutoff but it's generally accepted that ports of retro games to non-retro consoles are fine, rom-hacks are fine, emulation is fine as well as talking about shit like the Wii and PSP ONLY when they pertain to emulation, but sometimes emulation isn't fine like if it's on the original Xbox for example for some reason - e-celebs are fine but a Japanese TV show about retro games sometimes isn't. None of that shit is in the sticky yet it's still followed.

If anything there needs to be clear, concise rules about what is allowed to avoid any confusion - half the threads here have some minor argument about the rules.

>>3497832
I didn't say that "cinematic experience is bad". It was done alrightin the 5th gen. But 6'th gen made a few steps too many in the wrong direction that turned Gameplay with some cinematism tacked on into Cinematism with some gameplay tacked on.

The GBA is closely connected with the GameCube because of stuff like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_GameCube_%E2%80%93_Game_Boy_Advance_link_cable

You either have to allow both or neither.

>>3497838
Oh shit, didn't realize the quote was out of the thread was just responding to this dude's quote. >>3497820

>>3496931
due to technicalities, we are already allowed to dicuss consoles from any gen past 5th as long as you are discussing a port of a games originally from a /vr/ console.

>compilations
>ports

Not sure about remakes though even if they are the same games, one with better graphics and possibly extras.

>>3497837
This sure looks like a game you could make on a SNES.

>>3497847
32x might be able to pulls it off. definitely not the SNES.

>>3497847
GBA is basically SNES 32x, so If that wouldve been a thing, then yes. Maybe with a chip in the cart, but still.

>>3497841
"Wheels are connected to cars, therefore wheels are modern technology!"

I'm actually in favor of a rolling cutoff for /vr/ but it should be more like 20 years. That's long enough for the nostalgia to set in properly, I feel.

/vr/ already spans too much time and too many generations for the "retro is a specific time period" argument to hold much weight IMO. Atari 2600 game design is absolutely nothing at all like N64 game design (or even NES game design, really). In particular fifth gen game design was already fairly close to modern game design, especially toward the end. Not to mention the Dreamcast, which was quite clearly a sixth gen console in every respect.

>>3497853
Except Wheels where invented thousands of years before cars while GameCube and Game Boy Advance came out during 2001.

>>3497849
>>3497852
Yeah maybe that's true.
But if why allow the GBA why am I allowed to discuss Driv3r on the GBA and not on xbox? The same could be said for many other games that are ported from the home consoles to the GBA like Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance or Rayman Raving Rabbids or Crash of the Titans?

>>3497853
if 4chan had a board specifically for trackball mice, would you like it if optical laser fags came in to shit the place up? yeah, both types of mice do essentially the same thing but they do it differently.

>>3497862
Because GBA ports of the games are completely different games, developed separately and similar mostly in basic character/environment designs.

>first /fog/ splits and /cfog/ is born
>happens because people want to discuss the older Fallout games, much like /vr/ vs /v/
>now /vr/ wants to discuss GBA
>people suggesting /v2k/

is 4chan getting to big for itself? I mean 2ch has specific boards for very specific stuff. Can't argue with having very specific boards for very specific stuff on 4chan.

>>3497879
But muh splitting up the user base! These people can't stand each other so lets force them to share the same board and fight in every thread! That is such a great idea!

>is 4chan getting to big for itself?
possibly, yes.
>I mean 2ch has specific boards for very specific stuff. Can't argue with having very specific boards for very specific stuff on 4chan.
I agree.

>>3497838
Wait, Japanese TV show about retro games... are you talking about GameCenterCX?

>>3497879

Yeah 4chan isn't what it was a decade ago, unfortunately. Adding post-2000 to /vr seems like a disaster. A lot of our diehard posters would be upset (myself included), and it would just be a constant point of contention. People would post PS2 threads and, for who knows how long, they would be nothing but people fighting over the console's inclusion on the board. Wed get more posters directed our way, and more obscure threads about old games would get shoved off the board in favor of the wave of 6th gen threads with their wider appeal.

>>3497873
But what makes those ports retro that their console counterparts lack?

>>3497929
Because they'd have to use different mechanics that have more in common with 4th/5th gen than with 6th gen originals belong to.

>>3496931
>Should GBA be allowed on /vr/?
no

>>3497831
>WE DON'T HAVE TO LET THE OTHER CONSOLES IN.
But people are going to start begging for it just the same.

>>3496931
How is this even a thread? If you want to talk to about the GBA

>>>/v/

Now fuck off and kys, faggot.

>>3497932
GBA games like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond_007:_Nightfire
would be unthinkable on a 4th or 5th gen console.

>>3497950
>would be unthinkable on a 4th or 5th gen console.
Medal of Honour, Turok, and Zero Tolerance all look, sound and play better than that steaming pile.

>>3497950
Nigga, if you are posting bait, try at least a bit harder.
SNES was capable of Doom. GBA version Nightfire is a Doom clone that uses same engine as GBA prot of Doom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdiXB8xeF1k

>>3497950
G R A P H I C S
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>"It's ridiculous that you could talk about GBA versions of games, but not PS2 versions"

>>3497918
I doubt that, it's post-millennials that are the cancer killing /v/. Just look at how fucking casual they are, not to mention how awful plebbit tier memes they make.

Since they and smartphone casuals only care about the current gen, /vr/ is plenty good for anything forgotten or overlooked by these mouthbreathing retards.

Also prevent Americans from posting during the day and were golden, those guys can apparently play along during "night time /v/" but not otherwise.

>>3497968
DOOM WITH SLOPES

>>3497998

We Americans run this board. Your Amiga and 50hz bullshit belongs in its containment board

>>>/trash/

>>3497831
>Most people here loves or at least like a game or two from the gba, and consider them retro
The only GBA games I'd consider retro are the Classic NES Series games.

>WE DON'T HAVE TO LET THE OTHER CONSOLES IN
/vr/ didn't have to let the Dreamcast or 5th gen consoles in, but it did anyway because people wouldn't shut up about them. Letting the GBA in will only cause people to not shut up about other consoles. Again, there must be a line drawn somewhere.

>Most people don't consider ps2, gc and xbox retro enough to be on /vr
You say that now, but the Dreamcast's inclusion as the only 6th gen console allowed on /vr/ has already unlocked that Pandora's Box.

>>3497965
>SNES was capable of Doom.
It was not. The SuperFX 2 chip was capable of DOOM, and even then, just barely after paring the game down significantly.

The port of DOOM on the GBA is even worse.

>>3498019
Eh, I'd rather use an accelerator or a custom board so Gloom would run smoothly, as long as perfect midi sync stays intact. No need stay crippled.

And I'm mostly nitpicking about the incessant amount of small talk that completely overshadowed actual vidya discussion, but that was long before the split.

No, the GBA isn't even a good system. It's the beginning of "1st stage tutorial hand holding" bullshit we got even today. No thanks, if possible forbid DC threads too and we don't have to listen to these bullshit anymore. Why simply don't create a new board for those faggots? There are absolute unnecessary boards like fucking /aco/ when you have /d/ and other cartoon porn boards. It's not like it would impact Hiro's revenue by creating a /v2000/ - modern faggotry

>OH NO SLIPPERY SLOPE
the thread

>>3498073
You faggots also claimed slippery slope is not real when you wanted the Dreamcast.

>>3498052
We could have /v/ for current and previous gen and /vr/ for anything older. Or, if everyone wants to be an undecisive faggot, make /vm/ Vidya Millennium.

>>3498080
>only one gen separating /vr/ from /v/
Terrible idea.

>>3498078
IIRC people wanted both DC and GBA, DC was objected much morre intensly than GBA, yet it was DC who made it in.

Why can't you just discuss these things on /v/

The GBA has lots of games that were sequels to PS2 and GameCube games. It wouldn't make sense if you could talk about a game but not it's prequel.

Why don't you push for allowing the GBA on /out/? Playing handhelds is an outdoor recreational activity too, but those fuckers wont acknowledge it, why are they so stupid and stubborn?

>>3498093
>>3497932

>>3498086
That's only because DC was dead on arrival, rest in rip.

>>3498097
You should try it with a better handheld, like the Atari Lynx.

>>3498102
No, it must be the GBA, boards should change to make me feel comfortable because I'm special and worth it.

>>3497595
Yeah the Australia-kun shitposts and console wars are so much better.

>>3497907
Duh. It's always getting deleted, but then sometimes it's not.

>>3497595
>Also, look at the image attached to this post to see what kinds of threads you'd be inviting on to /vr/.

No worse than current /vr/. Hell, I'd even consider it marginally better.

>>3498086
>Dreamcast was discontinued in the US in 2001
>GBA was discontinued in the US in 2008
Neither should be allowed but GBA is worse.

>>3498113
>ZX Spectrum is still being produced in slavlands and brazil
By your standards Spectrum is worse.

>>3497837
>>3497847
>>3497849
>>3497852
The GBA has little to nothing in common with retro console hardware, it's more close to a smart phone than anything, in fact it's an ARMv7 ISA, you can still run gba games on bare metal.

And you could never run anything gba on a snes, the snes has a 2.7MB/sec DMA controller, just think about how slow that would be trying to load half the content of a 8MB gba rom in realtime while still executing code from the same address space. The gba cpu on the other hand can do async DMA at 50MB/sec.

>>3498053
the doom port was only so bad because it was an actual port, they just adapted the software renderer to work with a physical frame buffer instead of a virtual one.

>>3498115
If this were a Russian or a BR imageboard then I would agree.

How long till this board opens a dictionary? Retro does not mean old.

>>3498126
I don't see anything about the year 1999 in that definition, phoneposter.

>all these posts saying "ever since Dreamcast was allowed"
We had Dreamcast threads since day 1, we just had to clarify shit so fags yelling "not-retro!" would fuck off.

>>3498127
Yeah no shit mouth breather. Gba is actually retro by definition.

This is the most autistic thread I've seen in a while

>>3498134
Welcome to /vr/

>>3498132
So are plenty of indie games made in the year 2016.

>>3498134
It's pretty autistic, but I've seen worse recently.

Allowing GBA would mean that /v/'s weekly "Marche did nothing wrong" threads move to /vr/ too.

> wake up
> no /v2k/ yet
For fuck's sake, make it already

>nearly wake up when I hear they gonna allow GBA on /vr/
>they still didn't
wake me up already

>>3498210
Are you claiminig he did?

>>3498210
>People are just going to jump boards for no actual reason.

Come on you gotta try harder than that

>>3498067
/aco/ was a disaster, don't act like it wasn't.

>>3496931
I always figured that if the console is over 10 years old is should be considered retro

/vr/ already went to shit with the Dreamcast faggots whining about muh 1999; so go ahead, let the GBA in. I only see it as a gateway to people wanting the fucking DS in because of the Ace Attorney games originating on the GBA but only being released in North America on the DS. Same with Rhythm Tengoku faggotry.

>>3498132
This kid has no respect for others and discussion. This is why we can't have 6th gen discussion, with people like this.

YOU LET THE GBA IN AND WE'RE DEAD

WE'RE ALL DEAD

>>3497789

I've actually seen indie threads on here. There are usually those "What do you think of retro inspired games?" threads.

>>3498328
Indies should be okay, but only if they stay in a single containment thread. they tr on /vg/, but it gets drowned rather quickly

>>3498306
This. 6th gen advocates have been all terrible posters.

I posted this in the other thread but it's beyond the bump limit, so I'll reiterate it here: we should allow all 6th gen, not just the GBA, because it's damn near impossible to discuss it on /v// But, try and post those threads here right now, and you get tons of NOT RETRO posts and probably a ban too.

>Have you ever tried to make a thread about the PS2 or Xbox on /v/? You get no replies unless it's a fucking meme thread ("what did he mean by this", "ITT we pretend it's 2002", etc), or if you're talking about a series that remains very popular like Metal Gear, Zelda, Mario, Pokemon, GTA.
>Not even 2 years ago it was common to see threads about Armored Core, Ace combat and "CUHRAYZEE" threads on /v/ about games like Devil May Cry and God Hand, but now the userbase only wants to have console wars about the PS4/Xbone/Wii U, and sometimes talk about the PS3.
>But, because of the rules on /vr/, if I want to make a thread about, say, mech games on the PS2 and want to discuss them, looking for maybe some new stuff to try out, I have to post that thread on /v/, where most of the time, it default posts to Page 6, and gets pruned in 20 minutes, with maybe one reply. Now that samefagging as OP won't bump a thread, you're doomed to never get a reply or be shitposted by kids born in 2004.
>TL;DR, /vr/ should expand it's boundaries to include GameCube, PS2, GBA, and Xbox, because it's impossible to discuss them on /v/.

>>3498365
I'll link your reply chain from the other thread.
>>3498334
>>3498356
>>3498374

>>3498365
lol no i can make any r&c, resident evil 4, jak, sly, dmc, gta 3, god of war, burnout 3, ffx, wind waker, double dash, super mario sunshine, halo, counter strike, deus ex, forza, project gotham, rome, splinter cell, hitman game with minimal to no shitposting. try again kid.

>>3496931
I don't even care anymore what this board is allowed to talk about, it's all shitposting anyways. If having the gba allowed will actually start some discussions outside of "your (x) sucked because I grew up with (y) and it had a retro feel" let's have at it. We had some pretty solid dreamcast threads for a bit when that first was allowed, but then it became "arcade ports: the system" or "muh Saturn." guess it doesn't matter, all the threads that aren't bait die off or just get filled with autism. Except the doom thread, even the crt thread is hard to read these days.

>>3498365
> So I tried to ask for real horse porn on /r/
> it barely got replies
> but /mlp/ doesn't allow it
> TLDR: /MLP/ SHOUL ALLOW REAL HORSE PORN

Do you see where you're wrong yet?

/vr/ is a formed community, comfy and hermetic. It's like a social club for people of certain age.

Many people (myself included) don't want gen 6 discussion there. I don't want 2k babbies flooding this board, I don't want a crowded fractured giant hub where everyone is allowed but no one feels at home.

You want 6th/7th gen? Get your own board, like /v2k/. We in /vr/ should build a wall and make you 2k babbies pay for it.

>>3498401
Not him, but you can't come back the next day on /v/ and continue the talk with the same people because your thread will have died long before. A new board could fix that without pissing off a big chunk of /vr/. See the last reply in >>3498383

>>3498409
A lot of boards are this way. But what prevents you from just not going to these threads?

Mods could ban console wars once and for all though.

>>3498412
You should probably go to some retro gaming forum rather than 4chan, then. 4chan'unique factor is that it's a constantly changing, evolving site, not stagnant and the same for the last 13 years.
You sound like one of the people on /toy/ that would spam every thread about a Nintendo figma with redirects to /v/ because it wasn't the 12th Transformers thread on the board. I imagine that if 6th gen was allowed here, you would be one of the folks spamming "NOT RETRO" because it wasn't another SNES thread on a slow as fuck board.

>>3498419
You don't get my point though. The reason /vr/ is allowed is because nobody on /v/ would want to talk about 1-3rd gen games, and only some 4th-5th gen if they're popular. If you go to /v/ anyone will talk about 6th/7th because they grew up with it. if you want to talk about a game so badly for many days make another thread. There is no necessary demand for a 6th gen board other than 6th genners getting riled up that their games aren't retro for it to be on another board.

Last two digits of this post determine the cutoff year.

Odd: 19XX
Even: 20XX

>>3498430
Except that's not what 4chan's unique factor is at all. you've completely missed the point of 4chan, unless you came here only recently in which I can understand.

4chan's original intentions were to discuss certain topics in their respective boards. Saying 4chan's unique factor is it's site evolving is only there to meet your needs. The only boards that have been created recently have been out of spite of not staying with another board that is already huge many amount of posters on a board=cancerous community. That is what made 4chan great, that we can still have the same community as before. You've completely missed the point of 4chan. and this is saddening because there are going to be many people that wholeheartedly agree with you.

>>3498435
>If you go to /v/ anyone will talk about 6th/7th because they grew up with it.
But that's not true.
I've made like 10 threads on 6th gen games on /v/ in the last month, and only one of them lasted over an hour, because it was a thread about MGS. Unless you're talking about games that still get sequels, your thread is toast.

7th gen I'll give you, those threads generally last a decent amount of time, because a lot of people haven't gotten a newer console yet.

>>3497024
This is the only viable solution

>>3497024

Or you know, we could wait 4 years for the 9th generation to come out.

>>3498443
Every recent board has been pointless though. Why would I go to /asp/ to discuss skateboarding when the whole board is dominated by mandrama watching fags? I can make the thread on /sp/ itself and get a better reply chain.
It;s like the common suggestion of creating /film/ out of //tv/, the only retards that would post on it would be the pretentious fucks that came in the era of GOT and /q/, but everyone else would lose the ability to post movie threads on /tv/.

>>3498445
Your threads probably suck then. My threads get 100-300 atleast.

>>3498412
This

>>3498430
>slow as fuck board
What do you need? 500 responses in 5 minutes? Australia-kun going super saiyan in every thread? Smart thoughtful discussions like "GC sucks monkey balls. Prove me wrong (protip: you can't)"? E-celeb whoring?

/vr/ is where people come to discuss/play quality games. It doesn't care that much about """hype""" by definition.

> You should probably go to some retro gaming forum rather than 4chan, then.
Why don't you do the same, then? At least I have a comfy board where I can post.

> 4chan'unique factor is that it's a constantly changing, evolving site, not stagnant and the same for the last 13 years.
Oh, I didn't know you were the creator of 4chan. Or at least a leading expert on 4chan. Because that's how you sound.

You want threads that stay overnight? Ask for /v2k/. I guarantee you they will be hanging there for weeks if not months. But stay out of /vr/, it has always been, and always will be pre-2000s.

>>3498457
It seems to me you want to get responses, but you don't understand and don't respect rules. You just want to jump the community with most people, and talk about what YOU want, not what THEY want.

Yes, some boards are slow. For example, I went to /gd/. It's slow as fuck, but the answers I got there were miles better than what I'd get anywhere else I know.

But you seem to put quantity over quality. Moreover, you think 4chan should develop only the way you see it. You don't realize that in result, you will be left with one big hype wagon, devoid of any meaning.

Which perhaps reflects your self all too well: a vapid kid in desperate need of a herd.

>>3498508
PLEASE STOP BUMPING THE THREAD. Report and move on. This and the other topic are not going anywhere and need to be deleted.

Yall just autists afraid of change. Bring on GBA/ps2/xbox/gamecube. Breath some life into this sunken shiphole.

Yes. I see no reason games like Metroid Fusion, Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow, Megaman Zero, and Mother 3 shouldn't be allowed here.

Lots if good ideas here. But what are the chances our chink overlord will even do something?

>>3498539
I think he'd do whatever takes the least effort on his part, which would probably be making a /v2k/ board on a trial basis.

Here's a suggestion: a videogame is "retro" if you can decently and cheaply emulate it. So GBA, GCN, PS2, PSP and Wii are all retro.
Alternatively, it's retro if it's not HD.

>>3498542
Let's hope he sees this

新しいボードを作成してください: /v2k/
2000–2009 ビデオゲーム

I don't even think dreamcast should be allowed here. To be honest, I don't even think N64 and Playstation belong here.
What's the point of having a retro game board if you want to discuss progressively newer games every year? It just becomes /v/ again.

>>3498549
> Wii
> retro

>>3498557
STP[ BUMPING

STOP PAYING ATTENTION TO THE OBVIOUSLY RETARDED

>>3498556
This guy knows the score.

In music, no one calls anything past 1991 retro. With a huge stretch it's stuff until 1995. Everything else is not retro, it's old.

Same goes for movies, fashion, whatever. 80s are now acknowledged as retro. Maybe early 1990s too, with a stretch. But stuff after around 1995? Not yet.

>>3498556
Yea n64 and psx are basically the beginning of modern games

>>3498549
>Wii
>retro
wew anon

How about: It's retro if you can't still find the games at Gamestop?

>>3498556
>I don't even think dreamcast should be allowed here.
>To be honest, I don't even think N64 and Playstation belong here.
This is the truth. Let it be known far and wide. Send the criers, for they have much work to do.

>>3498412
thank you.

I have been on this site for over a decade, and this really is the only good board left. please dont fuck it up by having more of /v/ here. there is plenty of traffic here as is

If anything, 32-bit consoles and later should not be allowed.

>>3497263
Every classic Rock station I know of plays Nirvana, Pearl Jam, etc now. Time moves on, more gets considered retro or classic

>>3496931
Throwing my two cents in the ring, absolutely it should, So should GC, PS2 and Xbox. They're all the same era. Just like the Dreamcast. Ecco Defender of the Future looks pretty much the same on DC and PS2. These are all old ass systems now, we should be let them into the discussion

No thank you.
It's already too lenient here, anyone with a brain can see that Dreamcast discussion does not belong in the same place as golden age arcade machine discussion.
Don't open the floodgates further.

Why not just ban all games after 1999 from being discussed, then move that limit up every year?

We'd lose the ability to talk about a handful of games for now, but we would end these threads for good and there would be no risk of the board radically changing overnight.

May as well just rename the board /vr/ - Sprite-based Video Games and add a board called /v3/ - Polygon-based Video Games, and leave /v/ as Video Game Current Events

>>3498645
The rolling solution makes no sense, because the fundamental differences between Jarvis' Defender and Kojima's Snake Eater will always remain. That line of demarcation is what's important to us. The dates may be fuzzy, but the intention is not.

>>3498663
This misses the point entirely.

>>3498440
Irony

>>3498549
This is also my definition. There still isn't a reliable Xbox Original emulator.

>>3498626
SUUUUURE IS A LOT OF ARCADE DISCUSSION

Do people pretend to miss the point of this board for a joke or do they genuinely think the only reason people talk about old video games here is because they are over a certain arbitrary age?

If you are a retro game enthusiast on a retro game imageboard you aren't suddenly going to want to discuss new consoles just because they had another birthday.
And if you aren't a retro game enthusiast then you don't belong on an imageboard for retro games.

>>3498726
The DC has been allowed for over two years. It's high time 6th gen was allowed. There is nothing new about the PS2 or XBox.

There is nothing new about a console that even a modest gaming PC can emulate without breaking a sweat.

>>3498729
This board was set up because people didn't want to talk about those newer games.
That's the point of the board, they don't belong here. That's why the rules are what they are and that's why there was a shit storm when DC was allowed.

>>3498549
Wii was basically a sixth gen console trapped in the seventh gen. Probably among the reasons why it was the only home console from that generation I owned.

>>3498729
>The DC has been allowed for over two years.
And that should be undone. The 5th gen should be excised as well, to more accurately define the historical period this board represents.

>>3498729
Mainly because it hit every guideline for admission except an arbitrary marketing term.

>>3497024
This. /v2k/ is the only solution that makes sense. With this system of introducing a new gen whenever it gets old enough, eventually there are going to be so many different generations allowed that /vr/ is essentially going to become a second /v/. It won't be anytime soon, but if this website goes on for another ten years (lord save us) it will eventually happen. /vr/ is, and should continue to be, about the early years of gaming. Not about what YOU specifically played when you were a kid. I would love to talk about PS2 games, but this is not the place for it and neither is /v/. I'm all for /v2k/.

>>3498734
DC is hardly talked about anyway. If people dont want to talk about 6th gen here. They wont. Its that simple.

>>3498749
By the same token, lack of DC discussion proves there is no real demand for 6th gen discussion here and so we can keep the rules exactly as they are.

>>3498761
You know that doesn't work, fucking shill.

>>3498761
It's almost as if there are barely any games worth discussing on it outside of PSO and Skies of Arcadia. I bet you're one of those people that try to shitpost anything he doesn't like to death. Go back to /v/ where you belong.

This board has terminal AIDS. I say delete this board and every other gaming board and consolidate back on /v/.

>>3498787
>fucking shill
Who is he shilling for? Certainly not Sega. He must be in the pocket of the Pollacks who run GOG. Surely that's it. Your investigative prowess is unrivaled, anon.

>>3498796
I don't quite follow your logic. I want to keep /vr/ specifically for /vr/ games and that means I should go to /v/?

How exactly did you arrive at that conclusion?

>>3498787
>shill
I've never seen that word spoken here. Perhaps you know which board best to go back to?

>>3497024
Why create an entire new board if it's so easy to just allow GBA here? It's not like the GBA isn't already discussed in this board anyway.

>>3498807
Majority will rule this, you don't matter a tit. Go to GameFAQs if you want to discuss games we've discussed to death.

>>3498815
Why the fuck are you on a retro games board if you're not interested in discussing retro games?

Fuck I hope Hiro can recognize what a fucking retarded argument that is.

>>3498813
>why not legalize heroin, it's not like people aren't shooting up anyway
Do you hear yourself when you talk.

>>3498813
>It's not like the GBA isn't already discussed in this board anyway.

It's really not other than ports, which is how it should stay.

>>3497918
you have a point. it's because /vr/ is slow that obscure games even get discussed.

>2 New Gens are released
>1 One more "retro" gen is allowed on /vr/
>?????
>Profit

>>3498818
Cancerous behaviour, just flocks of /v/tards who are sick of /v/ and demand 6th gen become discussed here. Ignore him and post on other threads.

>>3498612
Exactly: they now accept stuff from EARLY '90s. The time period of 4th gen consoles. Not 5th, and obviously not 6th. I said this right here: >>3498564 .

Now try and find me a "retro" station that plays Strokes and White Stripes. Or Linkin Park.

Now, fashion. Same thing really. We have had grungy shirts for several years now. It's all in the late '80s–early '90s category.

Look at picrelated. This is what you want to call retro now? This goes to show that nostalgia/old =/= retro. Retro should be at least 20 years old. Preferrably 25–30.

>>3497708
But none of those are GBA games, you idiot

>6th gen is allowed
>Halo kiddies flood the board with their shitty console

No, I don't want that. I don't care if GBA gets allowed. Just don't let in Xbox and PS2 shitposters

>>3496931
Because we totally don't have enough babies here yet.

>>3498896
> /v/ contains all of the "muh hype" kids
> /vr/ bans all halo/kingdom farts shills
> we are left with perfect retro heaven for actual games

I am happy for the state of this board, gentlemen. Leave it as it is. Make /v2k/ if you want. But don't touch /vr/.

>>3498925
But I like those games :(

Why allow more systems? This board is perfect! you only have to refresh once every 24h to get a new response. And i don't want childrens! Videogames are for adults! And i like to watch the catalog and see nothing is going on! besides, GBA is not retro, it has zero connection with previsous systems and looks way better, which tells you it is not actually retro!

>>3498940
>slow boards are bad

so wrong it hurts.

>>3498953
It's bad when the only threads getting more that 1 response a day are shitty bait threads and the Doom general.

>>3498896
PS2 was released before GBA. If GBA becomes allowed that's going to open a huge can of worms.

>BUT PS2 WAS RELEASED BEFORE THE GBA WHY CAN'T WE TALK ABOUT PS2 HERE OMG U GUYS ARE SO AUTISTIC.
times 1000

I, for one, can't wait to be able to discuss Treasure's underrated GBA games.

>>3498939
One play in Counter-Stike or Quake 3 and one run through any old RPG like Ultima IV will show you that Halo and KH are like shitty Amiga knock-offs compared to their main influences.

>>3498940
>Not allowed to dislike children posting here because children play videogames.

Seems like your thought process is broken you fucking idiot.

>>3498983
Because it had retro specs. Game budgets were also "retro", few games cost that much money to develop, by industry standards. Add to that ports from SNES, and you get why people try to push it on /vr/. But still they should fuck off to a different board. I like GBA and am willing to talk about it for hours, but not on /vr/.

>>3499002
>Because it had retro specs.
So does the PS2. It's literally 5 Playstation X's stitched together.

>>3499002
>it had retro specs
This actually describes a lot of Nintendo consoles on release dates, funny that

6th gen was the last good set of consoles. Let it in.

>>3499075
You mean 4th gen. It all went downhill from there.

>>3498890

>>3499080
Sept the ps1, sega saturn, ps2 and gamecube, fit right in with the nes and snes for the best at home consoles. And the gba was the last good handheld ninty made.

>>3499094
The GBA was an awful console.
Just look at any of the "best GBA games" lists. Half of the games in those lists are usually inferior ports of SNES games.

What's wrong with allowing the 6th gen?

>>3499094
>ps1
Start of Sony's hollywoodization and casualization of the gaming market.

>saturn
Start of Sega's decline globally.

>ps2
Continued the spread of Sony's cancer.

>Gamecube
Was a joke that nobody took seriously, and hardware sales prove this fact.

>>3497805
>analog technology

That's a bizarre statement, I didn't realize NES was operated by a series of gears, springs, levers and pumps

>>3499113
butthurt autists didn't grow up with those

>>3499116
Your mistaking sony for microsoft. And unless you work at nintendo who cares about sales. The cube had a better selection of games then the n64 and that gets a lot of discussion here.

>>3497813
>GBA could do 3D

yeah and so could N64 and PS1.
>GBP brings in GC
literally why? If I play my GB games on my laptop emulator, it's NOT RETROOO?
GTFO

>>3498819
That is actually a good point whether you intended to make it or not. Drugs being legalized means they can be more tightly regulated to prevent killer batches and also prevent the spread of disease.

>>3499127
Sony was far more damaging to the games scene than Xbox, though.

>But you can't really discuss 6th gen on /v/ they don't careeeeee
Fine. What's stopping you from making a 6th gen general on /vg/?

>>3499146
This. Without Sony winning because of their overhyped DVD player, Sega-CSK would still be in business and there would have been no Xbox.

>>3498940
>>3499075
>>3499094
>>3499113
>>3499126

>>3498747
Well said. I agree.

>>3497841
No, your submission is REJECTED.
I reject your shitty stupid shoehorned assumption that because it has a cable and can be used as a controller for another thing, that other thing is thus by necessity required to be allowed.
There's absolutely zero reason this should be, other than you don't like GBA.
Well, not-like-it some other place, you homosexual autist.

>>3499146
Nah sony put out great games. Xbox introduced live. If you hate sony so much, fuck off back to /v/ and go circle jerk while calling each other sonyiggers

>>3499157
Calm down anon, we are all friends here.

So when did autist become a popular insult around here? Does this happen to coincide with the flood of underage and/or /v/ begging for 6th gen?

>>3499158
Kill yourself, Sonyfag. You're the reason videogames are garbage nowadays.

>>3499119
6th gen and newer is digital era technology. GBA is a digital device. Dreamcast is a hybrid console and probably why it got enough leeway to be allowed to be discussed in /vr/.

>>3499164
It came about when people started being excessively pedantic and petty while ignoring the bigger picture.

>>3499168
they're all digital you dumb nigger, that's how computers work

>>3499164
Yes, they're pretty noticeable. Just jide and report and they will eventually go away, they're in their fussing stage right know >>3499157 >>3499170 >>3499175

Xbox was never the problem. Sony and Nintendo were.

>>3499168
You mean digital as in digital media? On the fucking GBA which uses cartridges? Is the Sega Nomad digital too?

>>3499167
Thanks for proving my point ya ignaranus.

>>3499107
Most best of lists only contain the most well known games.

The GBA had plenty of great games, Like Warioware:Twisted, LoZ: Minish Cap, Tron 2.0, Wing Commander: Prophecy, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, or Super Star Saga, just to name a few.

>>3499183
ROM chips are in fact digital media

>>3499184
>calling others ignorant
>while claiming Sony did nothing wrong

Oh the irony.

>>3499183
cartridges still store ones and zeroes. did you think they store the game as a waveform or something?

>>3499178
Holy shit that was barely readable. I'm sleep deprived but still...

>>3499186
>Tron 2.0
>Pokemon Mystery Dungeon

>>3498875
A lot of classic stations play Blink 182 nowadays.

>>3499190
>>3499193
But then what the fuck is the Dreamcast holding that make it an "hybrid" like >>3499168 says?

>>3499196
You got a problem with those?

>>3499168
Incredible.

>>3499201
He must be talking about the VMU.

>>3499201
nothing about the dreamcast is "hybrid" or whatever stupid bullshit he was claiming. he's just a moron.

>>3499208
still a digital device

>>3499201
Dreamcast is digital as well so i have no idea. Aside from early ones like laser disc optical disc formats store information as 1s and 0s

>>3498985

>that fucking localization

>>3498052
Except no one is on here spamming about PS2 or Xbox. They are often just talking about GBA because people don't realize it's "not" "retro" until they come in here and get yelled at by aspies

>>3499246
>Everyone who doesn't agree with me is autistic.

fuck yes

ps2, gamecube, xbox, and especially gba are definitely retro. you cannot dispute this. they are 15 years old now. it's fucking time.

>>3497206
what this anon says should be right. how many different porn boards do we have? if they wanna discuss non-retro stuff THAT bad, let them have a place for it.

/vr/ should remain the way it is simply because obscure games, tech, etc. already have a hard time catching on and the current speed of the board is perfect for this reason. Bringing in 6th gen WILL in fact speed up the board but it's not what /vr/ needs or will ever need. /v2k/ will be a perfect addition, I've seen a few PS2 games discussed on /v/ but eventually die off because everybody would rather discuss the latest vidya journalism gossip.

>>3497206
then we have two reeeeaaallly slow boards instead of one slow board

>>3499269
That would be cool. I have a lot of nostalgia for the early 2000s and would probably fit in there. The board would be fucking SLOW though. Like maybe not /po/ or /n/ slow but still really slow.

Why are you filthy casuals fighting over bullshit all the time? Fucking cancerous console babbies.

Looks like the only way to purge retards is to make best board, /vcom/ - vidya computers.

>>3499264
They still actively got games post 9/11 that we would have to allow to. Nobody sane in their mind could say that 9/11 was a long time ago.

>>3498815
he is part of the community discussing this, with the exact same right to voice his opinions you have. if he "don't matter a tit", then you sure don't either, you little, little excuse of an anon. trying to censor others... for shame

>>3496190
No. GBC games released less than 15 years ago are still retro. If GBA becomes retro then games made for it after 2001 should be retro. Also /rhg/ would die (i mean it already is but like more dead)

>>3499286
>but my opinion is more valid because i believe it's true!

>>3499280
I'll come if you ban all things x86 from the board.

>>3499168
I only play games on my NES because I love that analog warmth. It's hard to get tubes for the thing though!

I say no. I'm in favor of /v2k/ though. Like /vr/ but for PS2 vs. Everything Else shitposting.

Yes, or at least the system itself. The GBA can be used to play GB and GBC games with 100% backwards compatibility.

The GBA and GBA SP (001 and 101, no Micro) systems should definitely be considered retro, but the games are another story.

>>3496931
Anon, I honestly believe this is the way to go moving forwards. There are no downsides: I know some people will try to argue community atomization. Well, I ask you to consider most people in /vr/: They're willling to tolerate GBA, but they wouldn't want to discuss PS2, Xbox, or Gamecube in here. Those of us /vr/ folk who want to discuss PS2 games would just need to make the small jump to the neighbor board and enjoy ourselves. And for the people trying to force newer systems in here: Please try to understand. You're trying to intrude a place that doesn't cater to your needs, trying to twisting it into something you want, when you should be asking for more: you should be asking for a place of your own. Just leave us to our /vr/ discussions and what's more, join us in asking for the creation of a board that serves as a home for the threads you can't have here. Let's all, together, ask Hiro for /v2k/.

/v2k/ is a stupid compromise. You can discuss 7th gen games just fine on /v/, so this board would effectively cover 6 years of video games (2000 to 2006). Why should video games get 3 goddamn boards when television and film have to share just one?

Isn't summer over? Why is /vr/ still shit lately?

>>3499349
We want to move 5th gen to /v2k/ too.

>>3499349
because /v/ is the 2nd or 3rd largest (I forget) board on the website, it's too fucking big for discussing anything that isn't the latest shitty new release. That's why /vr/ got created anyway. Now we want to split more stuff out of /v/ for discussion, but it doesn't belong in /vr/, so /v2k/ should exist.

>>3499279
that's why /vr/ works. it's slow and nurtures subjects that would immediately die on /v/.

>>3499349
you're in charge, what would the third board be to go along with television and film? those boards moderately slow outside of memes.

>>3499356
I'd argue to just have Dreamcast be moved to /v2k/ just because it's the only exception on /vr/ due to not having a proper board to discuss this niche console; yes it's niche as fuck because nobody rushes to discuss it and only gets appraisal since it's easy geek cred.

>>3499356
5th Gen isn't 2k though.

>>3499351
Kids who just finished HS taking a gap year(s) because the lesbian albino indigenous underwater basket weaving class they wanted to take is full.

>>3499365
>that's why /vr/ works. it's slow and nurtures subjects that would immediately die on /v/.
yeah but /vr/ is a good slow. /v2k/ would probably be too slow

>>3498734
Lol, this board was made really for no reason, nobody was asking for it and than it just appeared. It's really good luck that it is or rather was one of the better boards, but only because people mostly come here to ACTUALLY discus games instead of V - The Vidya

>>3499349
>You can discuss 7th gen games just fine on /v/
Only if you want to talk for maybe an hour or two. If you need to step away, the threads die quickly. /v2k/ would probably have a pace similar to /vr/ which is much better for longer discussions.

is it (somewhat) commonly found in thrift store shelves?

if yes, it's retro
if no, it's not retro

>>3499378
well, /v2k/ will just have to be put on a tryout. As a matter of fact, /v2k/ would be perfect for discussion of PC games like Deus Ex or similar era games since those aren't allowed on /vr/.

>>3499417

/vr/ - Madden & FIFA

>>3499419
I wholeheartedly agree and support /v2k/. If it happens, I will be the first to discuss my favorite GBA/DS games there. Those were my only consoles in high school, I had a flashcart and played the hell out of both of them.

But not on /vr/. That would ruin it. I recognize that /vr/ is a small club of sorts. I don't want to disturb it. We should keep it that way. It's much better to alternate between two boards. If you think it's hard, you probably don't need it anyway.

>>3499442
it makes me feel encouraged to read opinions like yours, thank you

>>3499349
I think the final solution should be this:

/vr/—1–4 gen.
/vr2/—5–6 gen.

Having separate board for 1st and 2ng gen doesn't make sense since there are really few people posting about them (and then again, they seem fine and not complaining on /vr/).

>>3499452
Well thanks to people on /vr/ who keep the place like it is. I think it's a unique community—I might be wrong here, but I've never seen this level of discussion in English anywhere else (if you think I'm wrong, feel free to recommend other places).

Now of course there are collectors' forums and so on. But when it comes to speaking about playing games, /vr/ comes up both knowledgeable and surprisingly lively (old gaming boards are either half dead and rotting or full of lowest common denominator).

Maybe you can find better in-depth blogs/forums on, for example, PC-88 visual novels, or chiptune music. But /vr/ manages to provide a good enough middle ground without sacrificing much. There's shitposting, but not anywhere near as much as on some other boards.

But it's important to keep it this way. Retro gaming is naturally protected from babbies and shills, hidden away by the burden of time. E-celebs, Nintendo fans and weebs of course do their nasty job; but still, the place is well hidden from them, and they don't have much interest in topics that don't concern them. This is what makes /vr/ so comfy.

But 6th gen can potentially change it all. The younger the game—the more shitposters it will attract. And we all know that 6th gen was nothing like 4th gen, for reasons I don't think I need to list. If enough people decide that /vr/ is a place to talk about GTA SA, Halo 2 and KH, it will simply fall and the old posters might leave it. It won't make /vr/ bigger; it will simply destroy it.

>>3499442
>I wholeheartedly agree and support /v2k/. If it happens, I will be the first to discuss my favorite GBA/DS games there.
I'd love to have /v2k/ threads about all of the Advance Wars games. I assume some side discussion of the other Wars games that never made it out of Japan would also be allowed in those threads, even though they'd be from before the cutoff date.

>>3499442

You're going to disturb /vr/'s community if it you kick out 5th gen games, like people here are suggesting.

>>3499495
He's not suggesting that, though. I agree that /vr/ should stay pretty much as it is if /v2k/ is created.

>>3496931
One issue I have: I've seen people say that the site's rule list doesn't have the Dreamcast included as a system that can be discussed here, but the sticky says it can be discussed. Can this be fixed?

>>3499497
The site's rules are full of things that are outdated and inaccurate. I never even think to look at them these days unless someone brings them up. I wonder how often Hiro and the mods bother to update the list of them.

>>3499497
if /v2k/ is born, Dreamcast is going there. even if it was released at /vr/'s cutoff year, it stands out like a sore thumb and feels forced. As a Dreamcast owner, this hurts to see because the only time it's ever brought up is for appraisal and rarely any discussion is made.

>>3499512
I think /v2k/ would end up being a better home for Dreamcast and would have a good amount of threads about it.

>>3499497
Your issue is autism, not the rule.

>>3499515
exactly. I feel threads about Dreamcast are made just to exercise the fact that we are allowed to post about Dreamcast.

>>3499493
Yep, GBA has a lot of gems as it is which I'd like to discuss with someone knowledgeable. Advance Wars is amazing and I always wanted to play other games, never had much time for it though.

>>3499495
To be frank, I'm more or less fine with it. When I first went to /vr/, I thought, "oh boy, here come the endless FFVII/OoT threads". I'm glad I was mistaken. I'm more annoyed by the Doom cult here; at least it has a containment thread.

But I just feel it's too much of a scope at the same time, you know… I mentally put "golden age of arcades" games and the 5th gen/3D/CD based games into different categories. They are too different. NES and SNES are much closer to each other.

Imagine having a board about both literature, movies and video games. You simply can't concentrate enough on one subject, you go from thing to thing and that hinders in-depth discussion. To an extent, that's how I feel about gen 5 put together with gen 1–4. There are of course gen 5 games that could easily have been gen 4; but not so many of them, at least not after FFVII.

>>3497047
Why isn't the 6th gen retro? Kids born after it can (albeit illegally) shitpost on this site.

>>3499601
Actually, they can do legal shitposts, because 6th gen started with the Dreamcast which was released in 1998(if I recall correctly).

>>3499606
And therein I think should be the cutoff: Can kids born after a certain video game generation shitpost about it? If so, it's retro.

>>3499612
Throw the console in the water

If it floats it's retro

>ITT
>A not retro Nintendo system gets a free pass because the underage that flood this board have nostalgia for it

Why isn't the rest of gen 6 allowed then?

>>3499647

Since we can already talk about the Tapwave Zodiac, I'm going to assume you're an N-Gage fan butthurt that no one realized how brilliant it was.

>Retro gaming is a specific period of time

I don't support allowing gen 6 here yet, but you people are literally the definition of retarded for even believing this to be true.

I'll laugh my ass off if it is accepted

>>3499081
Why'd you post a blank image, anon?

>>3497601
>the slippery slope "fallacy"
>it proves correct 100% of the time
It should be known as the slippery slope guarantee or the Iron Law of Slippery Slopes or the 3rd Law of Thermodynamics.

>>3499546
I support this notion. Hiro, if you're reading, how about it? /v2k/ seems the sensible solution to this predicament.

>8 gens until now
>there is a board to discuss 5 of them
>BUT WE MUST INCLUDE MORE GENS TO DISCUSS

>>3499832
It's bad enough we have underage like you blatantly violating the rules with your underage posting.
Now you want to allow you underage to throw your underage underage shit onto that shitpile.
No thanks. Fuck off back to whatever le place you came from.

>>3499907
this

At this rate, people will be saying the DS and 360 are retro.

>>3499907
I just wish they would stipnposting and arguing. They keep getting shut down and blown out in the threads and polls and then they just make a new one and pretend the last six never happened. How about talking about including non retro consoles becoming retro consoles is a bannable offense since e have the exact same thread every goddamn week.

Duck it. Vr is cancer anyway.

>>3497879
I don't k ow if I even believe in 4chan much anymore. I still want anonymous and the culture but id rather have ops just tag topics they felt relevant and replies could add to it.

Please shoot me if I described Reddit,I don't think I did. It's more like one of those other chans, but even that not so much.

>>3500000
Nice digits.

>>3500000
Checked. But also who gives a shit? 4chan jumped the shark long ago. Even moot left. I don't even know why I'm still here. There's just nowhere else with the same vibe and speed of discussion but with higher quality than 4chan, so I've stuck around all this time.

Reddit is even slower than the slowest 4chan boards and the up-vote system just leads to hive mind mentality there. Here, if you say something against the grain you can actually have arguments and discussions with people (as well as get called a faggot), instead of having your comment automatically censored and hidden.

>>3500000
I think 4chan works alright as it is. I wouldn't mess with it too much, other than adding new boards when they seem to be needed. I support /v2k/.

>>3500016
>>3500021
That's my best get ever and most dramatic and I've been here forever. Anon, I...

But really. I wish topics had more permanence, we all know they're not actually temporary, the NSA has them all. We may as well be able to keep a 'metroid general' or whatever thread up forever.

So you could have your MTG tagged with video games and metroid, then anyone that starts talking about a game would tag that particular game and whatever else they wanted... There wouldn't be 'boards' anymore, just topics and keywords. I guess an analog for boards would be a feed of a group of keywords, possibly cultivated by an anon.

It sounds onerous and complex but I'm also from danbooru and it works fine.

If only I was a database and html genius.

>>3497628
But you're fucking wrong. VR has never had any rules against non-retro remakes of retro games. Or did you miss all the AM24R threads recently?

>>3497843
Did you not catch all the AM2R threads? Remakes tend to be fine too.

>>3498291
>was
It's still here you know.

>>3500039
the impermanence of 4chan threads is kind of the point of 4chan.

>>3499397
>nobody was asking for it
Oh no, we totally we're asking for it, did you see what we were wearing?

Seriously though, you must have missed the /qa/ threads. When moot first opened up a way for users to directly request things and get feedback and community discussion, creation of /vr/ was a pretty big fucking topic.

>>3498819
But the drug war has literally failed by all measures you MONGOLOID

>>3497151
this.
come on guys, there´s objectly a gap 7th generation and onwards and pretty much fucking everything. even things like PSP are dead in literally all forums.

>>3499487
Yes. It doesn't take a lot of time here for the difference in board culture between /vr/ and /v/ to sink in. That's important and it will slip away the more our discussion topics are broadened.

>>>/v2k/ incase anyone missed it
Anything else is fucking stupid

>>3499487
that´s the problem here. I´m 33, and I don´t give a fuck about modern games as I do about retro, but they are an obvious gap here. I created a thread about SW Lethal Alliance. a game I played 10 fucking years ago on PSP. I didn´t even met my wife back then. the thread lasted 1 hour and got 1 response. See the thing?
/vr/ is one of the best places I know for talking games that are pretty much dead on everyones eyes, as you pointed on your second paragraph. Allowing new consoles here won´t make babies appear here talking about Halo or GTA SA because the fucking have all the internet. but what about a game from 10 to 20 years ago that is dead for the general public?
Come on, guys.

>>3499283
I was 17 on 9/11/2001, I am 32 now. I FEEL like it's a long time, actually.

I don't really give a damn one way or another, but I'd like to drop in and say that Megaman Zero was the tightest shit. Thank you for your time.

>>3496931
NEW POLL

http://www.strawpoll.me/11234131

A majority seem to be fine with GBA. Though, ased off the concerns and comments in this thread.

Addressing the feared slippery slope on one side, and those who don't mind GBA and say only some of the Sixth Generation can even be considered retro (no one considers PS2 and XB retro, but some GCN)

>>3500213
A lot of people ITT seem to support leaving /vr/ untouched and creating /v2k/ (maybe/probably shifting Dreamcast to /v2k/ in the process).

>>3500213
No one gives a shit about your easily cheated polls. Fuck off.

>>3500229
This. and also from the other thread. Where's goddamn Hiro anyway, he should be up now.

>>3500229
Dreamcast isn't 2k though. it's 1999 (in america, 1998 in japan.). it's a pretty historic vidya date that's hard to ignore. you can't just say move dreamcast because you said so or "allow 6th gen" because you said so. you need reason and logic.

/v2k/ is the only one that seems to make the most sense seeing how

1) The very nature of this board is to be retro and 6th gen just cannot be seen as retro since the huge leap of technology happened at 2000 and has not made as much of a significant leap since then.

b) allowing 6th gen could potentially turn this board into nothing but 6th gen threads, thus completely destroying the board. if we were to have 6th gen allowed on a trial basis it would be very obvious it would drown out actual retro vidya in favor of 6th gen.

c) making a board dedicated to vidya from 2000-2010 seems to be an okay concept on paper AT LEAST FOR A TRIAL RUN. It discourages /v/ faggotry by having the board focus not be anything current.

d) the rules are very simple and easy to understand the way it is now. GAMES RELEASED AFTER 1999 ARE NO GO. VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND. RELEASED IN 2000? BAD. 1992? GOOD.

>>3496931
So /v/, /vg/, /vp/, and /vr/ aren't enough? We want another gaming board? I see where you guys are coming from with the /vr2/ or /vr2k/ or whatever idea but I don't see it working. Not only will you have "NOT RETRO" all over the place but you'll also have "TOO RETRO." The gaming boards are split enough as is. Just my opinion, I feel like we could treat the GBA like the Dreamcast and have it exempt from the 6th gen and upward rule. It has a lot more in common with 5th gen consoles and come on, a GBA and a PS2 aren't even remotely similar to each other. I think adding the other 6th gen consoles isn't a good idea, we don't want a million Halo and Kingdom Hearts threads every day. I feel like this would be a good compromise, just my two cents.

>>3500249
>/vp/
>gaming board

>>3500249
There is absolutely nothing wrong with having another gaming board. If fucking pokemon can have their own board then why can't /v2k/ be a thing?

>>3500229
This, absolutely. make /v2k/ a place for all the guys raging about /vr/ not wanting them. it's the best, easiest solution

>>3500249
>"NOT RETRO"
Not 2k*

>>3500249
I used to have the same mind-set but the problem is that there's just too many faggots.


we could even have a trial run. if it works then cool ok and if it doesn't work then ok cool fags can shut up.

>>3500257
plus, just how many porn boards do we have? and as >>3500253 said, /vp/ is barely videogames, come on. pokemon needs a containment board and you all know it.

>>3500257
Because pokemon was talked about enough on /v/ there was little room to talk about other stuff. 6th gen isnt talked about on /v/ anymore as it too old. So having its own board makes little sense. Lumping it in with /vr/s retarded definition of retro makes better sense, as it fits the reason this board was created in the first place. To talk about games too old for /v/.

>>3500271
/vr/ is not your trashcan, senpai

>>3500271
But /vr/ is not a dumping ground for "anything you can't talk about on /v/ anymore"

>>3500275
Its not. 6th gen was great and i want a nice place to discuss it. A new board makes no sense as this board already exists for the same reason

>>3500280
I obviously can't speak for everyone, so I won't try to do it, but you have to acknowledge a very large portion of /vr/ doesn't want to discuss 6th gen. I agree that it was great, but I don't want it on /vr/ either. see >>3499345 . Tell me, can you think of any downsides to creating /v2k/?

>>3500271
>>3500280
I really don't like the idea of adding more gens to /vr/. This board is pretty good as it is. Adding 6th gen to /vr/ is a bad idea. Doing a trial run of /v2k/ is a good idea. If it works out, it solves most of /vr/'s problems and some of /v/'s problems.

>>3500280
What you are suggesting absolutely makes /vr/ become /v/'s garbage dump. And that is exactly what this place will turn into once you start letting in every gen that isn't current onto this board.

Once again, there is 0 reason for to be opposed to another board being created for a specific era of gaming. "It doesn't make sense" is not a valid reason. /v2k/ potentially being slow board is not a valid reason, /vr/ at first was much slower than it is today. Not to mention look at /po/ and multiple other board speeds.

Leave /vr/ the way it is, create /v2k/ and have it be for non current gens, and have /v/ be its usual shit fest for whatever is current. Pretend /vg/ and /vp/ don't exist because they are not relevant to anything.

Personally, I don't give one shit if 6th gen was/wasn't allowed.
I come to /vr/ entirely to talk games, and not because it focuses on a specific time period. It's just that /vr/'s cutoff lines up with most of what I play.

GBA would be neat, but I really don't care enough about the machine, so it being allowed doesn't affect me one bit. I like the 6th gen era, but I barely play anything from that time.
A large part of me expects any shitposting from if GBA becomes allowed to be almost entirely due to people bitching that GBA is allowed. Shit, if PS2/Xbox/GC was allowed, I'd expect most of the shitposting to entirely be from bitching that it's allowed.

/v2k/ could be a good idea, and it's one I used to support more, but some part of me feels like its board culture is going to be shit just because it's going to be the middle board where the shit neither /v/ or /vr/ wants goes.

>>3497263
>if you grew up playing PS2 games, then I feel sorry for you. that shit is not retro.
See, I grew up playing SNES, NES, and Genesis games, but the PS2 is 16 fucking years old, and if you're 25 today, you could have started playing PS2 games when you were 9.

also, they absolutely do play Nirvana on classic rock stations
it's actually really weird for me hearing 90s music on classic stations these days

>>3497813
GBA could do 3D in the same way the 32X could. Kind of poorly.
Really, you can do better on the fucking Jaguar.

>>3498120
Doom on SNES is a rewrite, it's not a straight port like most of the other console versions.

>>3500336
I come to /vr/ because I want good talks with anons about non trendy games who can be discused on /v/ and every corner of the internet. but half of the games I wanna talk are "not retro enough" for people on this board.
Man, i´m 24, I just want to talk about dead games I´ve played and stuff from my childhood
/v2k/ answer all of this.

>>3500306
/vr/ is already /v/'s garbage dump. and thats fine cause /v/ has shit taste. its the whole reason it exists is cause we couldnt talk about anything old without it dropping off the board. Same reason why 6th gen should belong here now.

>Once again, there is 0 reason for to be opposed to another board being created for a specific era of gaming.

It makes sense to include 6th gen here as a board solely for 6th gen will be too slow. /vr/ is already slow and we have 5 gens to talk about.

Tell me some good and valid reasons as to why 6th gen shouldn't be allowed on /vr/ and make a fucking effort. because so far no one has actually make one as to why we shouldnt let 6th gen in.

>>3500369
/v2k/ would be 6th and 7th gen. Lots of people have given reasons why 6th gen shouldn't be on /vr/ if you read this thread and the main thread linked in the OP.

>>3500379
7th gen is still talked about on /v/ it doesn't need its own home.

6th Gen belongs here with the rest of the oldies.

You still didn't give a reason and ive read though both threads, so far its just people afraid of change.

>>3500387
/v/ also has regular threads about GBA games.

>>3500387
6th gen introduced many concepts and changes in gaming culture that /vr/ understandably wants nothing to do with. I can understand you failing to see this point, but I don't get why would you think giving the 6th genners /v2k/ is such a huge issue. Who, then, is more afraid of change?

>>3500387
Start with this guy >>3500248 and please reread the threads.
>b) allowing 6th gen could potentially turn this board into nothing but 6th gen threads, thus completely destroying the board. if we were to have 6th gen allowed on a trial basis it would be very obvious it would drown out actual retro vidya in favor of 6th gen.

Do you really think 6th gen belongs on the same board as Atari? Because I don't.

Also, 7th gen deserves a place where you can make a thread that won't die in a couple hours. /v/ is not that place. /v2k/ could have serious discussion of 6th and 7th gen.

Send all consoles PS1 and onward to its own board. 5th gen has no business here.

>>3500387
6th gen belongs here but oldfags don´t want and make it impossible.
(for god´s sake, they can´t even read here about a console that´s basically a portable snes)
7th belongs on /v/ except for it´s literally imposible to talk about things +5 years old.
/v2k/ is the answer to both problems

>>3500404
5th gen still mantained a lot of classic gaming paradigms. 6th was transitional, in the same manner, into the kind of stuff we'd end up seeing in the 7th generation.

>>3500395
This. What harm would the creation of /v2k/ cause? If it works, great. If it doesn't work, it was worth a shot and would just melt back into /v/ and we're back where we started.

>>3500395
A lot of concepts you bitch about started in the 5th gen. Fuck, Sony was sponsoring the MTV awards in 1995 for the PS1 launch you underage millennial. 5th is when this casual cancer started

>>3500398
/thread

>>3500409
Nope. 5th gen was when casual cancer really came about >>3500413

Is there any reason /v2k/ shouldn't be tested as a trial board? It will allow /vr/ to remain unchanged while furthering actual video game discussion about certain generations that could use a slower board.

>>3500395
fucking this.

>>3500412
Because we don't need five different video game boards clogging up the site nigger. A board about 1 console generation is a waste of space.

>>3500419
it´s clear we need THAT board.
there´s an entire generation unable to be talked about on /v/ and kicked in the ass if tried in /vr/
you made it necessary.

>>3500419
>A board about 1 console generation
/v2k/ would be for two generation: 6th and 7th. We've said this over and over and given countless reasons.

>>3498787
The misusing shill meme is still kicking I see.

Next up RetroArch and my wife right?

>>3500419
>10+ boards for porn
>5 video game forums is TOO MUCH

>>3500426
and I´ll tell you what, it will be 6th, 7th and I´m sure we late 20-early 30ers won´t go full autistic if people want to discuss late Dreamcast or early PS3 on our board.
Like we said a zillion times, /v2k/ fills the gap from /vr/ to /v/, not just one generation of hardware

>>3500413
not bitching, not underage. do your best to keep this conversation civil, anon. Try some reading comprehension as well: I said "still maintained", typos notwithstanding. Of course you'll find a lot of transitional examples in nearly all moments of video game history; Atari's Color Gotcha introduced color almost a decade before anything else. Your examples are just the same, pioneering, transitional, anomalies. Most of 5th gen videogames kept the same conventions of 4th gen going, including 3d gaming, just improving on audio/visual capabilities.

>>3496931
We've been through this hundreds of times op. Let it go. Go to /v/.

>>3500436
Considering this is 4chan. and 90% of you are kissless virgins, im surprised we dont have more porn boards. We dont need another vidya board.

7th gen still has its place on /v/. and 6th gen is old enough to have its place on /vr/. The whole reason /vr/ exists is so we can talk about old games that we cant talk about on /v/

>>3500424
>>3500426
I don't understand why. Retro games are not a specific time. Everything becomes retro, hence why instead of creating another board, you need to push the cutoff date. PS2 is 16 fucking years old. That's fucking retro, and deserves to be talked about here. And don't give me your nigger bullshit

>BBBBBBBBUT DATS WHEN DA CULTURE CHANGED AND CASUALS AND SHIT CAME IN

Go watch some Sony ads for the PS1. Blatant normalfaggotry infecting games and appealing to normalfags has been around for decades. Hell watch old Atari ads where they try to market games to families and shit. The 6th gen did not first cater normalfags and casuals.

So is the main argument for not wanting /v2k/ simply that 5 boards dedicated to games will be too many? Despite that fact that 2 are pretty much irrelevant (one super specific board for pokemon and whatever the fuck generals is)? That leaves 3 solid boards, /vr/ the way it is, /v2k/ as the gap filler between /vr/ and /v/, and /v/ for all current content.

>>3500449
>Everything becomes retro
No. you create things that are a retro. Retro is a style that copies old things. Not actual old things.

>>3500441
And 6th gen still had classic games too. You probably were too busy scoffing at everything during that gen to notice.

>>3500447
>I don't really have an argument so I'm just gonna fling baseless insults because I'm not gonna get my way. Also I'm against adding another board and not shitting this one up because (Insert Non Valid Reason Here).

Got it. Go back to /v/.

>>3500452
Nah the argument is here: >>3500447

>>3500460
Everything becomes old.

The 6th gen is fucking old. Literally all you fags are afraid of is supposed "kids" from that generation coming here, even though everyone who was a kid during the 6th gen is in their mid 20s.

I vote fuck yes for GBA, and would even include NDS. I view them as a continuation of the SNES lineage, merging with the GB\GBC. They are retro enough in spirit.

The fact that the DS comes up so frequently in conversation about emulation devices makes it appropriate to just fully discuss the library as well, if you wanted to go a little crazy.

I would fully enjoy saying that the GameCube, XB1 and PS2 should be invited into the VR family, but at that point we'd only be a hair different from V.

GBA should be allowed no question though.

Isn't it odd though that we all allow Dreamcast to be a VR console? It's the same gen as DC and PS2 haha.

>>3500465
I havent touched /v/ in like 3 years. and the insult was the board as a whole, we all come to 4chan and the porn is all there for a reason. Get off your high horse.

Actually refute my reason if its so non valid.

>>3500471
It is old, and I want 6th gen here so it has its home. It doesnt need lumping with 7th gen or its own board.

I was arguing that you used the word Retro wrong.

>>3500449
Games changed, not advertising. that's where they're going with that kind of arguments. >>3500461
of course not. but the proportions were reversed, and the predominant thinking behind modern games started shifting towards mindless "you paid 60 bucks, welp, guess you'll see the credits now" games with dumbed down interactions. Can you deny the very trend that ruined modern gaming with diluted, trivial, "press X to everything", impossible to fail games?

>>3500449
you are seriously saying /vr/ should accept PS2? seriously?
If they were able to accept it and we could talk about 6th and 7th in a slow paced tone far from the vidya news of /v/, do you think we would't started doing it by now?
We don´t do it because we can´t. People here go full taliban just with the idea of including Game PortableSNES Boy. Do you really expect then to talk about Beyond Good & Evil here?
you guys made easier creating /v2k/ than making /vr/ 6th and 7th friendly

>>3500469
>>3500478
How about stop being lazy and read the fucking thread. Then you can pick any number of arguments that have refuted your bullshit. SEVERAL people have been quite articulate and have explained things very well.

>>3500493
Ive read it. Stop being lazy and refute my point.

>>3500490
this >>3500487 is one of the reasons why a majority of /vr/ doesn't want 6th gen discussed here.

>>3500447
Considering that the amount of people on the internet and 4chan have grown exponentially since web browsing smart phones dumbed things down enough for a much wider audience to browse here, the fact that you think that 90% of the userbase are "kissless virgins" is fucking hilarious. And I guess you're inferring that you're not one of the 90%. Bragging about how you've totally been laid on an anonymous board for old video games, where the average age is 25+, actually isn't hilarious I guess. It's sad.

>>3500498
the assuption that "all the games from any given era are shit because they lack or exploit any given stuff·" is so simplistic and obnoxious that I won´t even discuss it.
don´t wan´t 6th here? fine. that´s why we are going to make /v2k/

>>3500507
Totally hit a spot, didn't I virgin. Ill see you on /porn/ we can jerk it together.

>>3500496
If you haven't found any of the arguments for not allowing new gens here, or the creation of /v2k/ reasonable, then I'm not going to waste my time talking to a brick wall. Kindly fuck off and find another board to shit up.

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>>3500512
"all the games" is your wording, not mine. I did not speak in absolutes. Feel free to dismiss my arguments on your own terms, but don't try to blame me for your own incompetence.