/vr/ - Retro Games

[9-03]Shadow Warrior now free on GOG, with all the expansions and shit
https://www.gog.com/game/shadow_warrior_complete

[9-02]Lights & Brightmaps for Freedoom
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/freedoom/90527-lights-brightmaps/

[8-29]Vinesauce Mapping Contest Rules
https://vinesauce.com/vinetalk/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=118438

[8-24] Func Map Jam 7 - Back to Base
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/mapjam7.html

[08-21] GZDoom Shaders Galore
- Retro Shader updates http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=53250
- Lazy Palette Shader http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=53252
- PSX Vertex Jiggler: >>3442719

[08-19] Anon mod: Unstealth >>3437946
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25843724/unstealth.wad

[08-19] Anon Release: Cute looking first map >>3435876
https://mega.nz/#!5I9DFbxY!jJLRdnfnYv4hVKUkmztjwsrt6caF97FHnhCPMO8SbJQ

[08-18] Anon Release: Drum Akimbo Shotguns >>3433687
http://www.mediafire.com/download/mlkl18wylos140p/AkimboDrumShotguns.pk3

[08-17] Quake 2] Mission 64 (Q2 N64 -> PC recreation attempt) >>3432010
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=53046

[08-15] Anon mod: Brutal Basic >>3427361
http://www.mediafire.com/download/g970qa70a0af4na/Brutal_Basic.pk3

[08-13] MetaDoom early version released >>3423714
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=53010

[08-10] Anon mod: Revenant Doom >>3418323
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hi7j92ms6ns2jei/RevenantDoom.wad?dl=0

[08-10] Anon mod: Tex 2 Spek >>3418041
https://www.dropbox.com/s/a0spu00qvoxe8g7/TEX2SPEK.pk3?dl=0

[08-04] Urania, new Plutonia megawad
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/megawads/urania

[08-04] Anon maps update: Knee Deep Again >>3404968
http://www.mediafire.com/download/u1dec5iwynr6lm9/Knee_Deep_Again.wad

[08-04] THT Threnody (Ty Halderman Tribute project) released
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/thtthren

[08-02] Anon map update: Earth >>3400398
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Doom64EX/index.php?showtopic=143

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Ain't that the House of Pain?

>>3476164
House of Pain is the Skull

F

>>3476161
Weird Disc with random Doom maps I found on a flea market

for the interested:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/mw6hn9cdh7m4p9b/Weird_Doom_Disc_Thing.zip

>>3476172
God it's like the 90s shovelware market threw up on a disc case. Let me guess that the Doom maps are absolute trash.

>>3476172
Shit, I knew I forgot something.
>>3476162
Reminding myself to put it in the next news post

>>3476174
There's bound to be a few diamonds in the rough
Someone here should showcase them all and give some recommendations

>>3476103
what/who is Nmn and what was there?
Can I get it anywhere else?
Does anybody have it stored?

>streisand effect participant

>>3476176
I'm not really in the mood to look through 121 early-mid 90's WADs to find diamonds.

>>3476178
NMN was an artist.
Dunno about anything else.

Let's say you've just pissed off every classic action game hero from Doomguy to Duke. How would you settle them all down?

>>3476207
Give Duke a lifetime pass to his favorite VIP exclusive strip joint.

>>3476207
Get them their favorite liquor

>>3476209
I'm pretty sure that would work with all of them

>>3476174
Most are what you'd expect on a shovelware disc. There were a few very fun and well made ones in the mix, but most are baby's first map tier levels.

TEST2KIL.wad and SPIDER.wad are good ones. And there is a mod to replace the chainsaw with a lightsaber that works on the old hacky way.

>>3476147
Nmn used to do really good sprites (the weapon sprites used in Valiant were from an old unfinished Nmn project) and textures and contributed a lot to community, was even part of the DRD team.
Now they don't even have a page on the Doom wiki, all that's really left is the stuff you can find by searching "nmn" on Realm667.

>>3476304
perhaps you could write one? you seem to know a lot about his work

>>3476310
I'm actually just going off what I've looked up today and seen secondhand

>>3475948
Probably I'm replying to the wrong guy and stuff, but back in these days Doom would be labeled as just "3D Action" game rather than "Action-Horror" or whatever guess you take looking at games being labeled now.

>>3476172
Wad_04
!WOW!.wad
E2M8

Actually not a bad level. There doesn't seem to be a way out of the lava at the starting point, so watch your step. The level ends in typical Tower of Babel fashion with a fight with a cyberdemon, though this can also be achieved through Monster Infighting due to the amount of Barons and Cacos in the same area when picking up one of the soulspheres in the arena.

I'm gonna go ahead and give a 3 out of 5 stars, you should probably give this one a try. I played on Hurt Me Plenty.

>>3476172
wad_93/theatre is theatre2 on /idgames, a demonic cinema with a lot of monsters (300+).

>playing equinox
>those ear shattering explosion noises
>that ufo full of archviles
For what purpose

>>3476359
Remember that Equinox was made by the guy that made Nuts.

>>3476361
i read that he made nuts.wad to see how /idgames uploading worked and to test if he could do it, before uploading equinox

wad_99/fez1, a map somewhat infamous for its deliberate abuse of the linedef model, setting the two-sided flag on single-sided lines causing null pointer dereferences for special effects (they didn't crash the game back then). also some quite unconventional use of the donut linedef type. otherwise relatively unremarkable. one big twisty maze of little passages.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34plhPkSbls
>I stole the music from Level 13 from a dead kid's web site. The kid (sorry, can't remember his name or find the site) who is now dead actually made that piece of music and he wanted that music to be played at his funeral if he died (which, coincidentally enough, he did) Its got that 80's movie fantasy about it, like something from a Stephen Spielberg movie, or from The Exploreres or something.

>>3476379
How morbid.

wad_02/fiffywar, perhaps the earliest surviving slaughter map (it even predates doom2 by a couple of months). i remember playing it with DRLA; since you start by a room with 200 boxes of shells/bullets/rockets you are almost guaranteed to find two or even three modpacks.

wad_06/artifact: what do you mean you've never heard of artifact.wad?? this map is best described as an adventure; it covers towns, sewer mazes, underground tech bases and wide open hell castles, all originally intended to be one giant map but the guy had to split it into several pieces due to its size. what might have been. an enhanced version was created for Boom, the author being associated with TeamTNT in some way.

>>3476167
You didn't deserve this fate duke.

wad_121/xeno11.wad: a fairly complex techbase set in a wide desert plain. a good map by itself but also memorably reworked for 1994tu by traversd.

>>3476359
>playing equinox
>theres literally no ammo after the cyberdemon in the 4th level
i hate this kind of shit

>>3476172
Wad_01
Fiffy3.wad
E2M1

A two story hotel/motel with plenty of ammo and monsters, a few barons, a pool out back..
Once you find and kill the monsters and get the keys, just end the game because the exit seems to be inaccessible

3 out of 5 stars

>welcome to our newest member, fagggmork

>>3476543
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1666173

It's almost like I recognize this person, but I don't know how.

>>3476161
oh man look at all those berserk packs

>>3476543
>>3476547

> Doomworld is just another tentacle of the illuminati

DOOMINATI CONFIRMED
WAKE UP SHEEPLE
#STAYWOKE

>>3476542
>>3476390
>>3476383
>>3476372
>>3476358
>>3476318
You guys are doing a great job at describing/reviewing all those wads. I'm glad that I could make other people enjoy that strange CD!

>>3476565
I love weird 90s shovelware junk like that. They're like actual time capsules.

Alright, I'm done for today.

>>3476569
MM8BDM?

>>3476571
No. Vinesauce Mapping contest entry.

I restricted myself to 1024 before things clearly get out of hand.

>>3476575
Cool. It's looking good from that one screenshot. The orange makes me think of UAC Ultra.

>>3476569
It looks like the water's been highlighted in DoomBuilder's 3d mode.

Maybe up its contrast a bit? I know you said you were done

>>3476172
Wad_03
DKS-E1M1 and DKS-E1M3
I feel like these were made to be played with Russian Overkill, unbeknownst to the one who made them

>>3476576
Thank.

>>3476580
Oh, I will take care of the lighting tomorrow.

The water is actually Quake's turned orange. It's set to warp the texture.

>>3476580
oh jeez i didn't realize it was water at all, i thought it was a normal floor

Are the master levels worth playing?

>>3476590
i didnt realise at first either
now it just looks like a lake of orange juice

>>3476172
Wad_05
AWR1L1.wad
Babby's first map, using E1M1 as a base adding different items and decorations, testing scripts like making the lights turn off etc.

>>3476565
wad_110/return01: this is another famous old mapset replacing episode 1. not really compatible with anything other than doom v1.2 due to reliance on a bug that was fixed afterwards. large, spacious maps, apparently made at a high grid setting perhaps. used to be one of my absolute favourite wads but that may be mostly nostalgia as the last time i played it it felt a bit dull.

>>3476587

>>3476623
You see, that looks like lava to me.

>>3476626

>>3476634
Still seeing lava.

>>3476638

>>3476639
I an't help but see lava.

This is how it looks in motion. And some on the fly modifications.

>>3476639
>>3476634
>>3476623
Oh I think I see the issue, these textures are more like the light you would see on the floor, not the surface of the liquid.

Abandoning the Quake source, finding something new.

>>3476575
1024-sized maps can actually be quite interesting.

Which reminds me, what good 1024-sized maps/megawads are there? I have played 1024clau and I think another one, but the name escapes me.

>>3476652
Congestion 1024 is probably the classic 1024 megawad.

>>3476518
>Big empty rooms filled with a ridiculous amount of cannon fodder
>Cyberdemon wakes up before you get to its area and camps the top of the slow elevator to instakill you
>End of the map is ear rape

>Rest of the wad's gameplay is somehow downhill from here

>>3476174
They appear to be largely (if not all?) levels that were originally posted on the Compuserve action forums in 1994. A lot weren't even available on /idgames until 2005 or so when someone went on an uploading spree.

>>3476648
Only the freshest orange juice sourced from hell!

>>3476648

>>3476668
I think it's funny how these shovelware discs were actually some of the best ways to get custom maps for your Doom copy if your house didn't have dial-up back then yet.

>>3476648
Maybe less contrast is the way to go.

wad_46/jb.wad: it's said James Brown in the most sampled artist. now he comes to doom in the form of a collection of replacement sound effects. WAAUGH!, HIT MEH and others. amusing for five minutes

>>3476660
If you don't peek much into the room from the upper floor and hug the wall while making your way to elevator, Cyberdemon won't wake up.

>>3476695
haha i forgot about that partial invisibility

>>3476653
Ah that's the other one I got. Thanks though!

Any other 1024 map sets? I don't mind if they aren't as good. Just feeling like playing a bunch.

>>3476709
None that I know of. You might find the occasional standalone WAD by searching for 1024 in the archive.

1024cla2, the rejects from 1024clau, still good if you like that sort of thing.

>>3476714
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?search=1&field=filename&word=1024&sort=time&order=asc&page=1

>>3476675
Okay, how did you manage to make it look like that?

Because I just took the water textures, threw and orange layer on top and used a blend mode.

>>3476670

>>3476675

>>3476732
congratulations on your $200 of steam vouchers or whatever

>>3476736
I'm fairly certain I am to be outdone.

>>3476728
Greyscaled it and put a gradient map of Doom's orange range over it, adjusted the brightness with curves before the gradient map until it didn't look too contrasty so your brain would stop interpreting it as glowing. Brains are tricky.

>>3476732
Not a fan of how that one turned out.

>>3476735
A little better, I've got some ideas with literal orange juice I'm working on right now. Spent some time getting rid of watermarks on the only satisfying orange juice photo I could find.

i think >>3476735 looks slightly better than >>3476732

>>3476719
Will check it out.

>>3476720
Well, fuck, 20 years playing fucking Doom and not even once I thought of using the search feature in doomworld. Christ what the fuck is wrong with me. Thanks Anon, and sorry.
(In my defense I usually only got wads by name or from news/threads so I never really had to, but still, the thought didn't even pass by me)

>>3476738
Hm, the ornage juice idea might be useful.

Was the gradient created manually?

>>3476747
Yeah, just sampling colours from the palette and dropping a few of them in order until it looked like the orange range.

>>3476660
yea i dropped it after that level
shame cause the firsy few levels were decent and its very aesthetically pleasing

>>3476743
heh no need to apologise. i wasn't getting at you by posting that link. glad it helped.

its weird although useful and convenient how the mappers keep to the convention of putting 1024 in the filename for this one particular type of map. they should have their own subdirectory in idgames/themes/

>>3476754
Thanks. I'm reworking the waterfall texture like this. I need to remember those graphic editing methods.

>>3476784
Going to try for a 64px with larger bubbles.

>>3476792
Awesome.

Okay, guess I'm failing at the curves. Or maybe I already did at the gradient. Using the method you mentioned doesn't make the waterfall look any different from what he looks now.

>>3476803
Take the image, desaturate it by using the Vibrance adjustment set to -100 saturation. It seems to have better luminosity this way. Then make a Gradient Map adjustment layer over it, set up your orange range. The dark orange to orange to light orange to near-white. Arrange them so the transition looks natural. Put a Curves adjustment layer under the gradient map and adjust the contrast until it looks right.

>>3476808
I don't think Photoshop CS2 has that option. I can desaturate. Thanks for y<our tips. Seems like I choose a color too bright.

>>3476817
At least upgrade to CS6.

>>3476823
Eventually.

>>3476808
The juiciest.

>>3476835
Are you going for an orange juice themed map for the contest?

Looks really great!

>>3476835
i wonder what its like to go swimming in a pool of orange juice

>>3476835
Yeah, it's even called Fanta Base.

>>3476843
Nice! Can't wait to play it after the contest is over.

>>3476835
Use a blue sky to make the orange pop more.

Cool beans, these reeds are made using standard Doom textures, that's some Cyriak tier creative use of stock resources.

>>3476859
Is there one commonly used?

>>3476857
Oh, don't expect too much. The actual gameplay will be brief and sort of just there.

>>3476872
are those hexen swamp things gonna pop out

>>3476876
There's two in Swim With the Whales but it uses a custom palette with paler blues, though you could use that as well.

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/s-u/swtw

>>3476881
No, though that would be a good place for them.

>>3476876
try SKY2 from cc4-tex, although it's been seen so many times you might actually not want to

>>3476876
Here's a new one.

>>3476898
What if it's in a forest? Doesn't make any sense but I liked the image.

Thoughts? Anyone played this already?

>>3476926
what if you gave us a name though

>>3476934
It's called MiniDoom.

https://www.freegameplanet.com/minidoom-full-game-download/

>>3476926
Looks fun. Reminds me of that old 2D Doom platformer, but a lot smoother and with original graphics.

What's the name though?

>>3476938
>>3476937
Aah, ignore the question. Posted the second after you shared the link

>>3476938
>>3476945
fuckin juked

>>3476915

>>3476898
>>3476915
>>3476949
Do these tile...?

>>3476843
>fanta base
good job

>>3476952
No. Do they have to? I don't recall the skies ever tiling, though I never really looked at them.

>>3476963
Yeah, they do, at least horizontally, the original skies always did this and it'll look weird if the sky doesn't.

>>3476963
Yup, four times, or I can make a tiling sky 1024px wide that'll tile once.

>>3476964
Back to the drawing board for me.

>>3476949
>>3476963
>>3476964
>>3476967


I like this one, but as mentioned you can see the edge.

>>3476963
you've never looked at the sky textures in doom!?

>>3476835
Honestly if you're going for orange juice >>3476569 looks much better. Newest version looks too dark to be orange juice.

>>3476972
I've seen them but I never bothered looking directly at them, not with enough attention to notice the 4x tile.

>>3476968
Here's a quick tiling edit, working on a new one 1024 wide.

there was an attempt.jpg

>>3476979
fair enough, i guess the fact that you never noticed says something. i mean i think you would have noticed if they didn't tile. you would notice the horrible join in the middle

>>3476979
Yeah, this works for now.

>>3476990
Looks great man.

>>3476974
I think the more bitter the taste the darker the juice would be.

>>3476990
1024

>>3476990
Add the default brightmaps to it in case he uses GZDoom instead of ZDoom. Everything looks kind of dull like the gamma was pulled down.

>>3476997
Actually

>>3477002
Well, lighting hasn't been adjusted yet.

For the brightmaps I think I can just extract it from the DOOM2 wad?

>>3476997
>>3477003
these are gooooooood

>>3477004
No, they'll be in GZDoom's brightmaps.pk3

Since this is Joel I think the only way to guarantee it's run with brightmaps is if you put it in there for him.

>>3477003
It's a beaut.

>>3477010
Alright. Do I need to put it somewhere special in my wad?

>>3477003
Maybe some light from the ground, darkness up top.

is Cutman ever gonna do anything again besides MM8DM?

>>3477016
I don't know where they go in a WAD, but for a PK3 it'll look the same as brightmaps.pk3

Might be able to duplicate brightmaps.pk3 and stick your WAD right inside of it.

If not, attach a README.txt with the WAD when you submit it telling him to drag your WAD and brightmaps.pk3 onto GZDoom, and include brightmaps.pk3 so he doesn't have to try and find it.

>>3476983
too pixelated, but i can't say i hate it

>>3477016
>>3477027
If I remember correctly, Brightmaps should be put alongside the other regular graphics, like the H.U.D. bar, in wads. There are no special markers to put them in between.

Demons have half the mass of a cyberdemon for some reasonnn.
I'm not sure about this zoom out effect thing, might make people feel sick, I can't remember how extreme it is on that hydraulic weapon Term was developing.
The plasmaball sprites are just a placeholder visual for where the push effect is.

>>3477027
>>3477034

Okay. I have never used anything but GZdoom, what does Zdoom do different? No colored lighting or something else?

>>3477036
The zoom thing is called Field Of View. When set to extreme values it distorts the edges and the perception of distance. It can also be used to create the illusion of extreme speed if adjusted during movement.

>>3477039
ZDoom uses the original renderer, which means lighting is tied to a colormap which causes banding in light levels, and it's only ever going to display one of 256 colours due to the palette, and it won't have GZDoom's washed out look.

Also in GZDoom, go to the display options, opengl options, preferences, and set sector lighting to software for a more dynamic look.

What if... faint tentacles?

>>3477016
you do realise now if you win anything this guy will be after you for half the prize money?

>>3477046
I know what it is, I was just referring to the implementation of it as a visual effect.

>>3477062
I dunno, will he?

>>3477062
I don't use Steam or buy games, I just like making textures sometimes.

Plus he doesn't even know who I am.

>>3477069
You will still get credit of course.

>>3477062
Also, that's a pretty big IF. There are Doom veterans participating. This is my third map ever. I don't think I stand much of a chance.

>>3477069
but do you know who he is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viy8zQnxGC8

>>3476926
> jumping
> crouching
> in doom
what is this garbage

inbefore someone takes this seriously

>>3477080
first impressions weren't too great of this
but now it actually looks kinda cool

>>3477075
we'll all find out who he is when the map is submitted

>>3477075
Nope.

What if... an arbitrary skull?

>>3477081

A 2D top down Doom would be better.

>>3477080

>that guy started a patreon for his mods

>>3477095
How do you do this magic?

>>3477097
there was a Doom rts released like 9 years ago.

>>3477095
A little lighter down below maybe.

>>3477104
Just get a photo of a sky, make it tile, make a new black layer and paint some white clouds (I use a few brushes from Mark Molnar's brush pack which I can't link due to the spam filter) and then to make it look nubula-ish I use Photoshop's Minimum filter set to preserve roundness, set the layer to Add or Screen, and then make some little stars to fill out places, some soft clouds here and there just for a faint gradient, add a tentacle and skull, paint clouds over them, put a blue gradient map over it.

I don't think the skull and tentacles are CC but the sky photo was from Wikipedia so it'll be fine.

wad_26/amanda2.wad: i suppose this is just someone's first map experiment, it is a loose collection of stone hallways and too many doors. some of the doors contain such crowds of monsters that half of them are stuck together. there is one "trap" room which behind a crowd of sergeants are 3 cyberdemons 6 cacos and uncounted number of lost souls all stuck together, plus a rocket launcher and 700 cells. note: no plasma weapon or rocket ammo. if you could clear this room you could get a yellow key which unlocks a room full of imps and nothing else. the exit needs a red key which is in another place entirely. the cherry on top of this cake is a weirdly blind reject map, many monsters fail to wake up until shot.

>>3477102

>>3477117
Great, thanks for the info.

I'm gonna call it a day for today.

At least now the architecture is done.

I unwrapped a staph infection so now it's a sky.

It did not start out at the highest quality.

>>3477102
Modding takes time and effort. The more he gets from donations, the less overtime he has to do and the larger a "buffer" he has if he loses his job.

>>3477181

That's on him then, he shouldn't be asking for freebies for a hobby.

>>3477185
>Shouldn't
Live by your own opinions man.

>>3477203

That is my opinion. To ask for handouts for mods isn't right, you're springboarding off everyone else's assets in an attempt to make easy money. It's no different than what Sgt Mark is attempting to do with his own Patreon.

You want money for your efforts, make a game or get a real job. Don't make a mod using assets from pre-existing games and expect handouts.

>>3477102
As long as he doesn't put his mods behind a pay wall it's fine.

>>3477204
You think it's easy to make that mod?

>>3477204
People use Patreon for far worse things. There's nothing wrong for an artist to ask for donations to help them out with their hobby.

>>3477207

Oh I'm not saying what he's made so far was easy. But most of the work he's done was all code work, looks like everything else are model-rips. So he's trying to make money using other people's work.

That's pretty fucked up.

>>3477102
There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, it's just donations, not paywalls or stretch goals. Before Patreon and Kickstarter people just had a little Paypal donation button on their blog.

>>3477204
Maybe, but he's not outright selling anything. And people are free to give money to whoever they want.
Justice and charity are two very different things.

>>3477080
I can't imagine how this should work with a lot of enemies in a room.
Also the sprite takes up most of the screen....
Other than that its a pretty creative idea.

Imho people should not pay for mods, be it donation or paywall.
Donating to support a creator is different, but the creator should have done/be doing a lot for the community to merit it, rather than doing one specific mod.

>>3477208
Just because there's worse doesn't suddenly make it okay.

>>3477246
so they should be going for a mike12 sort of routine, where their attention is split between eight different projects at once instead of finishing one thing

Holy shit, this map has a near Crucified Dreams aesthetic with less of the clutter, and with single player gameplay, it's beautiful and fun, I fucking love Bloodstain!

>>3477165
That's very Adrian Carmack of you.

>>3477253
Except they actually get things done, like Sgt. Shivers, Weasel, or Arborix.

>>3477253

Doing a lot of things for the community is hardly exclusive to Mike, but I suspect you know that and are reeeeeeeeally reaching for a reason that proposition is bad.

>>3477214
You can say the same shit for people like Carmack who provided next to nothing but code work and made money off of other people's assets.

Keep in mind, I'm not comparing this guy to Carmack, I'm just saying that's a shitty argument. Modders asking for donations is older than you.

>>3477214
Man your blood must boil when people donate to charities then.

>>3477289
>Keep in mind, I'm not comparing this guy to Carmack
You just did.

Carmack made a full game.
This guy didn't.

>>3477291
He's talking about intellectual property though, which is different.

>>3477294
>Carmack made a full game.
No he didn't, and no he won't. He provides the code, but you can't just play with exclusively the code.

>>3477296
But there's no requirement for donations, that's the point. He could be asking for donations to buy toilet paper to wipe his ass and it'd just as legit. Because he's not selling you anything.

>>3477214
>looks like everything else are model-rips
Nah, from what he's been talking about he hand-made the Doomguy model based on fanart. The original model was based on Gene. You can also tell the animations are original due to just how choppy they are.

wddt/wad_96/wad_409/carnage.wad: randomly themed but enjoyable, future glimpses, gets better the further in you go

>>3477298
>No he didn't

>>3477298
>No he didn't
nigga u retarded

>>3477298
>Carmack made a full game.
>No he didn't
TIL Doom was not a full game

>>3477302

Yes, this is correct. You can feasibly ask donations for anything. You can say you're a terminal cancer patient who literally requires money to survive and ask for donations to keep you alive.
Whether you should, however, is a different matter.

>>3477320
>>3477323
>>3477326
>John Carmack made all of Doom by himself

>>3477320
>>3477323
>>3477326
Oh wow, guys! I didn't know ONLY John Carmack made Doom! No one else! He didn't rely on anyone else's help!

I mean really, who the fuck knows about people like Michael Abrash, John Romero, and Dave Taylor? EVERYONE knows John Carmack made everything!

>>3477332
>>3477335

He made the foundation. And without that foundation, nothing else would have mattered.

To give credit to any one man is silly though, Doom was the ultimate boiling pot of talent and ideas.

>>3477332
>>3477335
>picking nits this hard

>>3477332
>>3477335
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn that's some reaching you sure got there to justify the objectively wrong statement of "Carmack did not make Doom".

>>3477337
Good job missing the entire point! I said already you can't play the game with exclusively the code. Kind of like how you can't just live on a house's foundations.

>>3477339
And you are doign an amazing job at moving the goalposts!

>>3477332
>>3477335
chill down, autist

I want DanteEdward to leave.

so this is the same fucking nigger who went on that huge ass argument about doom being actino-horror isn't it

>>3477341
>The objectively wrong statement of Carmack did not make Doom


>"Carmack did not make a full game by himself" suddenly equates to "Carmack did not make Doom"

>>3477345

Who?

>>3477342
>And you are doign an amazing job at moving the goalposts!
Thanks, you too from "John Carmack did not make Doom" to "John Carmack did not make Doom by himself" in a vaguely-relevant attempt to justify someone begging for donations for his God Hand ripoff mod.

>>3477348
Too bad you never said that until called out on it. :^)

>Carmack is using 20 different proxies right now to try and take credit for Doom

First he steals computers from his old office, then he steals code from ZeniMax VR, now he's stealing credit for Doom!

What else is he gonna do next?

>>3477352
>You never said it
Okay, when did I say "John Carmack did not make Doom," friend?

>>3477350
But there's nothing to justify, you're the one that thinks donations require something.

>>3477357
Yes, people should pay others for good work instead of begging for money for nothing.

Again, we get it. You love to samefag retarded arguments

>>3477356
>Carmack made a full game
>No he didn't

You can justify it with "he didn't do it.........BY HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!" all you want, nigga.

>>3477359
So by your logic charities are bad because the homeless kids sure as hell aren't doing any kind of work.

>>3477361
When did I say "John Carmack did not make Doom"?

>>3477363
Sure, we can pretend I said that if it makes you feel better. I hate children and want the homeless to suffer.
So are you going to get back to the subject, or...?

>>3477365
>Carmack made a full game
>No he didn't

You can justify it with "he didn't do it.........BY HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!" all you want, nigga.

>>3477367
But I just used your logic for an example to show how retarded it is, are you going to address it or cover your ears pretending it never happened?

>>3477368
You're not telling me when I said "John Carmack did not make Doom," you're telling me when I said "John Carmack did not make a full game."

You done yet, or are you gonna copy and paste again?

>>3477369
So you legitimately want to compare someone making a low-effort godhand ripoff and asking for money for it to providing food and shelter for homeless children?
Man you are fucking weird, you know that?

>>3477372
so are you saying doom is not a full game, or

>>3477372
Doom is a full game, friend.

so can we agree to disagree and move on

>>3476926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfhJbZOXzJk
I played another version of Doom turned to platformer back in 2003 or so, i think. Cool stuff.

>>3477382
The subhuman's samefagging so of course it won't.

>>3477379
>>3477380
But John Carmack didn't make it by himself. On just programming alone, there were three other people required.

>>3477382
If you hide one post the whole thing just vanishes.

>>3477378
>So you legitimately want to compare someone making a low-effort godhand ripoff and asking for money for it to providing food and shelter for homeless children?
Again, I said I'm using your logic for an example, to show how dumb your logic is. It doesn't matter what I compare it to, you claimed that donations require effort, I pointed out how that's baloney using an example. Hell the whole point of donations is that people do them on their own free will, you know, generosity, there's no requirement.

Are you going to address that or keep dodging the issue?

>>3477386
It is still a full game.

>>3477386
doom is still a full game and carmack didn't ask for donations, the game was bought and profits spread among the team

retard

>>3477391
But he isn't the one solely responsible for making it like you guys keep memeing.

>>3477392
He still made a profit off of other people's work and not just his own, no matter how you spin it, friend.

I don't even know what I'm doing right now hue

>>3477394
which he split with the others

retard

>>3477385
every argument I've seen here has someone claiming is just a samefag, do you think that nobody ever argues here for real?

>>3477397
That odesn't change the fact that he himself is getting money for it.

>>3477405
congratulations, that's how capitalism works

retard

Holy shit, the amount of desperate reaching people are using to justify a patreon for a Doom mod is hilarious.

>>3477412
see
>>3477357

>>3477409
Gee, maybe that's why the guy making Doom Hand set up a Patreon!

>>3477389
>I pointed out how that's baloney using an example.
Yes, you used a shitty example, unless you think case scenarios are universal without any external factors whatsoever, such as "it is okay to kill people with the death penalty, ergo it must be okay to kill people".

>>3477418
nope

he didn't make a game

retard

>>3477418
>donating to a shitty God Hand mod is the equivalent of buying a game

>>3477423
>>3477425
He made a product, people give him money to continue it. That's capitalism.

>>3477420
>Yes, you used a shitty example
Wow, I sure got told by that amazing argument. Even though it's your exact logic applied to another example.
>such as "it is okay to kill people with the death penalty, ergo it must be okay to kill people".
How is that the same at all? Death penalty is an EXCEPTION to something that's considered wrongful by law under any other scenario, unlike donations which are 100% acceptable regardless of the situation.

>>3477395
it's a sword-sword
every time you sword, it sword's swords

no arguments allowed, this is a safe space.

>>3477441
so you were definitely baiting

thanks, confirmation is nice

>>3477441
>That post immediately after all the deletions
Janny confirmed shitposter who can't even use shift key

>>3477443
>pussyhurt his samefag argument got deleted

why is every labor day like this

>>3477447
>Continuing to admit he's the Janny
That's against the ruuruus, you know.

take it /pol/ or /b/ or something

everye is sick of this shit

>>3477442
>>3477443
What was 3477441? It was deleted before it loaded here.

>>3477457
"no arguments allowed, this is a safe space."

Which basically means the guy arguing about how giving patreon money for a bad God Hand in Doom mod is equivalent to buying Doom...surprise, he was a faggot.

>>3477450
School's out today.

>>3477464
Nice falseflagging. It was pretty obviously you (the janitor) saying you didn't want people calling you retarded and started deleting all the posts. Hence why it was instantly deleted, and when I called you on it, your reply of calling "samefag" also got deleted.

>>3477470
You're a dumbass.

>>3477470
you're a dumbass.

>>3477470

Try again.

>>3477470
Let it up, Hans, get to bed.

>>3477470
your a dumbass

okay say i have a system where 10 bullets are fired all at once, each doing 5 damage, but half of them will have a max range of 20

now, i want the next "group" of bullets to be part of spread, so its kind of like a normal gun with spread, except yeah bullet "group" has 10 micro bullets

is there any way to make this system not be retarded have like 100 a_firebullets just for one cycle?

jpcp was headed by a girl.

>>3477436
but

how do you pronounce sword

>>3477436
That's got to be the best thing I've heard of since sword-chucks on 8bit Theater

Am I too old to get into doom modding

>>3477508
>mfw this post

>>3477508
You can play with your games once you get that last will and testament written, Bert!
-- Sandra

>>3477508
the only thing your too old to get into is competitive doom

>>3477508
are you on your deathbed?

>>3477501
JPCP was headed by Tatsurd-cacocaco, who is a guy.

>>3476162
Eternal just dropped a new levelset, Endpoint.

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/d-f/endpoint

>>3477527
where does it begin

>>3477539
nigga
readme file

>>3477508
Probably not.

>play Strife
>hitscanners
>hitscanners everywhere
>they're all bullet sponges

GODDAMN IT, WHY WERE THE ID GUYS THE ONLY ONES WHO GOT HITSCANNERS RIGHT

>>3477571
>ID GUYS THE ONLY ONES WHO GOT HITSCANNERS RIGHT
did they really?

>>3477571
>tried playing Strife years ago
>after completing the first level and meeting the guy in the bar there are infinite hordes of hitscanning soldiers spawning everywhere
What did I do wrong?

>>3477584

that guy's a trap, don't get the chalice

instead, agree to get the chalice and then immediately kill him to reveal a switch that leads to a hidden passage with goodies

>>3477584
>>3477594

oh, you could also play the veteran edition instead, where getting the chalice no longer renders the game unwinnable

>>3477527
great news!

>>3477583
Yes.

>>3477583
>did they really?

Yes. They have really low health, but a powerful attack(instant-hit hitscan), and three variations to choose from(not counting the mastermind here), each with their distinctive tactics, which makes them flexible, challenging, but also fair to fight.

The Strife equivalent of Doom's lower tier enemies(zombies and imps) is the Acolyte. Basically a guard with as much health as a chaingunner that fires in bursts, and he's also way more accurate. These fuckers are the most abundant enemy in the game. And to make matters worst, later in the game you also fight robots with shotgun-like attacks that have a lot of health, and ceiling turrets that fire near constantly and are very small. It doesn't help either that the weapons in strife are generally very weak, and ammo is not as plentiful as it is in Doom.

>>3477612
Hitscanning in the first place is already bad by default. That's one thing Doom 4 has over the originals.

I've started a list of recommendable wads on Google sheets, and I wanna post it here for you guys to have at, but 4chin seems to believe that the link is spam. Any ideas for how to pass the link along, guys?

>>3477618

Post it on pastebin and then link the pastebin here.

>>3477618
Put it on pastebin, then post the pastebin link here. I think linking to pastebin is allowed here.

>>3477618
put it in a pastebin or archive link

>>3477618
I made that image years ago and it's so weird seeing it reposted so often
Will this really be my legacy

>>3477626
>Will this really be my legacy

No, till will be your Doomsday

Alright, let's try this. The list is far from complete, and I just decided to let you guys populate it since I intended for it to contain your recommendations anyway.

http://pastebin.com/Ui8T2Fk2

>>3477630
Unf

>>3477630

>>3477631
>Ghoul's Forest
>SMMP
>Speed of Doom and Reelism added twice
egh

what is to keep an anon from adding dumb bullshit like prodoomer and unfinished stuff like space pirate on there

>>3477630

We're going to be making these puns for an eternity.

>>3477643
>and unfinished stuff like space pirate on there
Or Dreadnought.

>>3477647
here we go again

>>3477643
It's only going to be publically editable for a few days, after which I should hope you guys have populated it pretty thoroughly. After I make it private again, I'll muck the shit entries out, standardize the rest as necessary, and add stuff on request.

REST IN PEACE DREADNOUGHT

REST IN PEACE METROID

>>3477631
Needs more classic megawads like Requiem, Memento Mori and Hell Revealed

Other than that all my favourites are on there

>>3477663
>needs more of this and that and-
Add them yourself. I made it publicly editable for that specific purpose.

nintendo's on a damn dmca spree

god damn axis powers unit 731 mother fuckers

>>3477671
only 70 billion mario fangames to go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o61th66HGds

>>3476161

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1NxOZlEf5aNcFZWVzNRYi1Qd1U/view

Gonna attempt to shill my mapset's early test build again.
Apparently it isn't Boom-comp after all.

Yellow is the worst range, followed by blue.

>>3477708
That's because you haven't seen the purples. All five of them.

>no matter where I go, cant find a download for the DOOM and DOOM II wads to actually fucking play
Great general. :^)

Can anyone recommend me some wads that don't make sense and look like they came out of a weird dream?

>>3477727
The Sky May Be.

>>3477727
The Sky May Be and void.wad are the only two I can think of.

>>3477730
THE GUN IS GOOD

>>3477727
Beyond Reality and Mayhem Mansion

>>3477727
Erkattäññe

>>3477723
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66496479/NearlyallIWADSyouneed.zip

>>3477727
It Only Gets Worse.

>>3477758
Oh thank you friend.

>>3477723
>>3477763
Also it's a first question in thread's pastebin.

>>3477661
I FEEL YOU BROTHER

>>3477717
I can't in good faith call that a range.

>Super Shotgun on the very first map

>>3477796
>shotgun right in front of the spawn

>>3477796
more like

Will Doom ever die?

>>3477836

Probably not for a long while, if ever.

A little messy but at least the seam isn't too bad.

Thought it would be cool to try a 1024 map for Doom 64. It was kinda hard to keep everything inside a 1024 box, but I think I did a decent job with it. Anyway, here's the download.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/9udvd4mopwjj6h0/1024_wad.zip

Also keep in mind there's a good chance the game will crash after you hit the exit switch. No idea why it does this, but my guess is because I'm using a slightly modified doom.wad base and the game doesn't know what level to load next. But other than that it should work fine.

This is also my first legit level I've finished so feel free to pick it apart and make fun of my mistakes.

GZDoom EX when

>>3477796
>>3477813
>>3477812

>>3477861
that's a girl.

>>3477869

and the relevance is...?

has a girl ever made a wad

>>3477874
yeah I made one once.

>>3477875
oh shit waddup

>>3477836
Not as long as that image of Homer Simpson all sickly cuddling a rotten sandwhich still exists

>>3477891
I'm terrified that this shitpost will embed itself in my mind and when and if I survive to be an old man with a broken mind I'll repeat this to people I loved and respected and no one will understand why I'm saying it.

>>3477727
happy time circus 2

>>3477897
I'm terrified that this shitpost will embed itself in my mind and when and if I survive to be an old man with a broken mind I'll repeat this to people I loved and respected and no one will understand why I'm saying it.

>>3477661
>>3477671
is nintendo so adamant about this because they know they havent made anything good in like 15 years and don't want people to have options

>>3477909
it's the only reason i can think of

>>3477912
>>3477909
>>3477671
>>3477661
>>3477647

Come on, dude, at least try. You could've faked an article or provided a dummy YouTube link or something.

>>3477920
You need proof that Nintendo is taking down fangames?

https://www.engadget.com/2016/09/05/nintendo-issues-dmca-takedown-for-hundreds-of-fan-games/
http://fireside.gamejolt.com/post/dmca-notices-for-fangames-bzc9h583

https://github.com/gamejolt/dmca/blob/master/2016/2016-09-02-nintendo.md The notice with link to 562 fangames.

>>3477920
wait is it not actually gone? i didn't bother to check

i'm not that guy btw

>>3477930
No, Dreadnought isn't gone, it's just dead.

>>3477929
note that this is nintendo OF AMERICA acting as world police
maybe it'd be worth tweeting to the big jap heads that the gajins are fucking up again?

>>3477935
>assuming le superior nintendo of nippon didn't instigate it in the first place

>>3477929
so what does this have to do with dreadnought?

nothing?

metroid thread is here >>3439012

>>3477934
*finished.

>>3477935
japs are known for being asses about copyright.

>>3477941
Well the shitpost from hours ago that >>3477920 wanted more information on was that Nintendo is dead because of >>3477909 and Dreadnought is dead because it's been having issues with devbuilds (of course it does, they're development builds but Dreadnought being dead is a recurring theme or joke or plain shitpost in these threads).

Conversations bend and weave, relax.

>>3477947
Only for us westerners though, they have a fucking huge con to share and sell porn of all the popular japanese anime and video games, shit's been allowed for years.

>>3477953
it's more that i'm not sure why metroid discussion doesn't go in the metroid thread, just like how doom discussion is guided towards the doom thread

>>3477953

Speaking of Dreadnought not working in the dev builds, I discovered that editing it so that it runs is a simple task.

Just remove the first two lines in chromastorm.dec and it'll work. I didn't notice any issues running through a few Oblige maps or when messing around with the Chroma Storm beam.

>>3477959
Again, conversations bend and weave. It was a tangent of a Doom mod, we're not going to all collectively agree to stop the conversation and pick it back up in another thread.

We're not even devolving into shitflinging... at one another.

>>3477960
Dreadnought is so dead Terminus won't even remove 2 lines of code from the Git repo.

Whats the best Quake map editor and whats a good tutorial for someone who has only used Doom Builder?

>>3477968
I like Trenchbroom, all Quake editors function essentially the same, check out the Quake pastebin ALL the way on the bottom. There is ANOTHER pastebin, I put a shitload of information about trenchbroom and map editor on that section

>>3477968
Trenchbroom is to Quake how GZDoom Builder is to Doom.

>>3477963
>we're not going to all collectively agree to stop the conversation and pick it back up in another thread.
it's happened before, but eh

Really difficult getting Wrack's models to look good, and not being able to use the textures due to Milkshape not importing and converting the UVs isn't helping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dC94wYUNvI

>>3478006
I'll see your link and raise you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKTPQtlscWg

>>3477874
has a girl ever made a pk3?

>>3478037
bazinga

>>3478037
has a girl ever made a deh

Any WADs made use of a trench shotgun yet?

>>3477874
has a girl ever made a bsp?

>>3477874
mech commander GZ

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=38339

probably better than a lot of mods made by boys

>>3477874
No idea about Doom wads but I played a Duke 3D map made by a girl. It was decent.

>>3478123
Game Looks Good

>>3477874
main dev for 3dge is a girl iirc

How many of these 'girls' just arent simply mentally ill trannies, since videogame communities are full of them

>>3478143
>you need to pass muh /r9k/ womanhood test

>>3478145
You just HAD to respond, didn't you?

>>3478145
what?

>>3478141
"girl"

>>3478143
Considering there's stuff like Eevee shitting around the zdoom IRC, probably trannies.

For the record, Eevee is a trans fag who draws horrifying furry porn with plenty of dog dick, and a pedo apologist who is very happy about his wife (GlitchedPuppet, AKA PurpleKecleon, the insane mind behind stuff like forbiddenflora and assorted pokemon shota crap, full of furry rape porn) showing said porn to minors. I don't even know how that sick fuck is allowed in there or anywhere near SLADE's codebase. And the guy uses the same handle and avatar everywhere, so hard to confuse him for another Eevee.

I recall him being a complete asshole to some dude over the word "trigger" not long ago on #zdoom. That idiot totally drove the guy away and he wasn't even being offensive or anything. Never seen him again.

Why are there so many weird crazy trannies on gaming lately. They are all fucking insane transtrenders who only serve to harm the image of actual trans people who don't go around picking fights or demanding special privileges for claiming to be what they aren't. No dysphoria or attempting to pass or anything, just claiming "I am trans" and calling actual, non crazy trans people "truscum". Fucking plague.

>>3478250
DOOM: Where the sanest place is behind a trigger warning

>>3478250
So do you have a source for any of this, or...?

>>3478271
https://twitter.com/eevee his twitter.
https://twitter.com/squishfox his other twitter (not safe for life).
If you look into his tumblr linked in the furry shit twitter, he has tags for "#forbiddenflora", a furry porn shit thing full of rape. The owner is https://twitter.com/glitchedpuppet , formerly "PurpleKecleon" (famous for furry porn, pokemon sperging and some pokemon fakes like a pre-announcement Shaymin and a fake trio of starters, also some Pokemon Mystery Dungeon roleplaying shit who she drove into chaos for being too busy with her self-inserts boning everything on sight) which whom he lives with and is actually also the artist for forbiddenflora. He's credited with site stuff somewhere.

The Eevee in #gzdoom has referenced the first twitter on occasion, and dropped his Patreon a couple times in the channel (of course, Patreon), also if you check the SLADE commits in github, it's the same avatar. There's no doubt it's the same Eevee.

If you google a little about PurpleKecleon/GlitchedPuppet you can see Eevee (also referred to as lexyeevee/veekun) in pretty much all her drama. It's actually surprisingly easy to find.

>>3478250
Yes, yes, very terrible.

what the fuck guys

>>3478286
Well, it's pretty shitty to go around driving decent modders away from the channel over politically correct shit when the guy goes around posting furry porn involving cocks eating dogs and piss-golems or whatever the fuck that was. You are either a shitlord feeding porn to the masses or a politically correct guy, you can't be both. Something about cake and eating it.

>>3478293
fetishes can be separate from your ethics

>>3478285
https://twitter.com/search?q=legalization%20from%3Aeevee&src=typd&lang=en

Verified.

Hey guys, I need your help with something that should be relatively simple.

Some awesome anon helped me get the katana from Shadow Warrior working in Doom, and the mod is great except for one thing - I have a pistol replacer I like to use, and since this mod replaces the starting weapons, you can see how it can get a bit messy.

So, I tried combining the two mods into one, and it hasn't worked out so well. Can someone look over how I arranged it and the code, and see if they can get it working?

The mod is here
http://www.mediafire.com/download/gu1wmqqewa7q0fs/SWKatana+Revolver.pk3

>>3478250
>>3478285
>>3478293
Thought this sounded like a shitty attempt at importing drama, but checking and verifying this to be real was a big ol' heartbreaking shame.
Still importing shitty drama, though, just like Marky Mark and the Jelly Bunch.

>>3478250
>>3478285
Why are furries so prone to causing drama in ANY form?

Like goddamn

>>3478312
>Brutal Baritone by Sgt Mark IV and the Jelly Bean Quintet

Hi guys, I've been looking for an old version of a very cool WAD, one of the very best, made a couple of years ago: Psychophobia.

The latest version is still available on modDB (with hope of it being completed someday) here www.moddb.com/mods/psychophobia . I've been looking for the 1.0 version, the latest one which still was fully 2D. Some years ago it was possible to download it from modDB or the author's site, but the former got deleted and the latter hasn't been saved by archive.org, which kept the page but not the game file.

Can anybody help? Thanks, and if you don't know psychophobia, try it! It's insanely difficult and well designed. One of the very best WADs I've ever played.

>>3478312
>>3478317
what?

>>3478293
I saw that happen actually.

There was some conversation about easily offended people going on with some idiot posting stuff about the illuminati. The guy wrote something like "trigger warning: triggers" and eevee descended on him like an angry vulture.

He was actually very apologetic but eevee kept going on about "safe spaces" and accusing the guy of transphobia for no reason. They seemed to end up in good terms, though, but the guy never came back as far as I can tell. I don't remember his name, though, was something unpronounceable.

>>3478339

It's a joke on how Mark would claim his critics were jealous (or "jelly") of his success.

>>3478310
you're just dumping the sprites into the patches folder

you need to go into Textures and import the files, then arrange the offsets so your gun isn't hovering up in the top left somewhere

i'd do it myself but i'm going to bed

>>3478342
oh, that. excuse me for the dumb question.

>>3478345
Oh

That sounds hard. I think I could pull it off if I put in the effort and learned how to pull it off.

But, pic related.

>>3478350
It's a bit of a bitch but if you use SLADE you can sort of do it quickly. It has a tool to adjust offsets quickly.

>>3478357
>It has a tool to adjust offsets quickly

it does?

>>3478360
Yeah when opening an image there's a blue-ish icon that looks like some sort of crosshair and you can pick offsets for HUD, sprites, monsters and such. It doesn't do it in batches unfortunately, but it'll save you the pain of doing it manually every single sprite.

>>3478357
>>3478360
>>3478367

>check
>"Use Source Gfx Offsets" staring me right in the fucking face
>after hours and hours in Textures I somehow never noticed it

pic related it's me using slade