/vr/ - Retro Games

Yeah Sega's music is really great almost always.

But Nintendo also has cool stuff, I dig soundtracks like F-Zero, Zelda, Metroid or Mother.

Is this just another Nintendo vs Sega thread? We already have this one >>3466396

>dust has settled

nvm it's just a /v/-tier thread

>>3476484
No, it's secretly a soundtrack thread

Post music.

https://youtu.be/VZpbDDdMGcQ

Genesis sound chip is a musical instrument
SNES sound chip is a playback device

>>3476492
We only deal in "good" or "shit" around here.

>>3476486

Hmm, the fact you've used the words "sega", "nintendo" and "better" in the same sentence makes me doubt it, but okay.

Some lesser known/underrated Sega and Nintendo music I like

Super Locomotive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcQUh8ZFdnA
(this one is kinda cheating since it's a cover, but still)

Super Fantasy Zone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I-WkPkdqTY

Teleroboxer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GMRQL9iTZM

Super Scope 6 - Lazer Blazer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yghZcwMKWY

>>3476498
Nice selection. Is Super Locomotive fun?

>>3476498
Nice selection.

>>3476507

I actually never played it, couldn't find a way to emulate that old Sega board and it hasn't been ported to anything.
But I love YMO.

Speaking of which
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDQu0rr7gEo

>>3476498
I've never heard of Super Locomotive before. That's a tight track! I think Rydeen is going on my playlist.

Sprinter from Super Hang-On is also a fave of mine. I go back and forth on the Mega Drive and Arcade version, when it comes to which one I like better.

https://youtu.be/W1dTYpx4Rys
https://youtu.be/FqdMZ1A09MA

If we are talking about in-house sound teams then yeah SEGA is definitely better. Their music tried to be more complex but because of that was less catchy then what nintendo did. If we talk about what they offer today then sega is on top simply because of the fact that ninendo still hasn't evolved beyond what it did in the 90s. Also sega did vocals better than nintendo will ever do.

>>3476520
Like he said before, it's a cover (of a YMO song). Just listen to the original instead.

I like Nintendo's music better. Not to say Sega's is bad, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4nzeEfill8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDYDJ_LfdOM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqY_9ZKfSJE

Even Nintendo's modern stuff is pretty good, like Mario 3D World.

>>3476476
>Splatoon


>>>/v/ is that way faggot

Good composers could make good music for the Genesis. The problem is that the Genesis couldn't make a sound effect that didn't sound like flatus.

>>3476476
Except for Sonic 3, none of the games you mentioned compares to Chrono Trigger, Donkey Kong Country, F-Zero, Mega Man X, Zelda, Metroid, Final Fantasy, etc.

Anyway, how many threads do Sega fans need to create to reassure themselves about their special little things? Every four days or so someone has to create one of these "PLEASE, TELL ME SEGA BEATS NINTENDO PLEASE" threads. It's becoming ridiculous.

Nintendo music was all about Koji Kondo, when he bailed out everything went into the mediocre-decent-good but forgettable ballpark

>>3476697
did you just seriously just put sonic 3 over streets of rage

>>3476697
Yeah, just put in Capcom and Squaresoft games randomly you little Nintendo autistic fagshit

>>3476715
THIS SO FUCKING MUCH
He's the most generic and uninspired in-house composer at nintendo.

>>3476742
I had to do a double take and dude, what?

>>3476476
>Sega better music than SNES
>posts an image of MJ who got fed up with the shortcomings of the MD SPU

>>3476598
Had never heard of YMO before today. Getting Solid State Survivor on vinyl stat!

>>3476476
There was never an argument in the first place
Nintendo music doesn't stand out and for the most part is dull and forgettable

>>3476697
Yeah no nigger
Only Mega Man X out of all those overrated shits you listed(especially the Squaresoft games which sound like elevator tune garbage) can begin to compare with any Sonic game when it comes to music and that game is by Capcom not by Nintendo

>>3476789
This is retarded
MJ wasn't the sound engineer the guys at Sega were
He just composed the music and supposedly wasn't satisfied with the sound quality(which is a dubious claim by Buxer anyways considering Michael played video games and he surely knew of the MD's capabilities anyway)

>>3476717
Sonic 3 shits on Streets of Rage so I don't see where the problem is here

>>3477354
>Nintendo music doesn't stand out and for the most part is dull and forgettable
Nah even though its simple yes, it's also for the most part catchy and memorable; sometimes even bordering on atmospheric and/or experimental at times. Sega in comparison, is just generic 80's/90's prog. rock/J-pop crap that's truly just forgettable, and for the most part not even the good kind either.

>>3477370
If genesis sound isn't good enough for Michael Jackson, then it's not good enough for me.

IDK pretty much every genesis game I ever played had shit for music, I just don't like its soundchip at all.

>>3476498
I never knew that the Virtual Boy sounds almost exactly like the TurboGrafx.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2OWC5Hosv8
i wonder if it's just this song that got copy pasted into sonic 3

>>3476484
Hip Tanaka's stuff (Mother 1&2, Metroid, Balloon Fight, Super Mario Land, Game Boy Camera, tons of others) was always fantastic for sure. He's a big inspiration for me and he's still making great original stuff even though he doesn't work at Nintendo anymore. He contributed a remix of Pac-Man's theme to Smash Bros 4 though. Definitely Nintendo's most stylish musician, but SEGA's got Ninty beat overall.

>>3477635

Tanaka has made a lot of great stuff, but I think the real star of Mother 1 and 2 is Keiichi Suzuki, who is an actual musician from the 70s rock band Moonriders.

>>3476520
If you are posting a track from Super Hang-On, you should be posting Winning Run. God damn it is by far the best tune in the game, and goes so well with the gameplay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q43CATo3Uao

The original Hang-on theme was also good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OZq7IbVLEg

Cool Riders also had a kickass remix of the Hang-On theme song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R3hjrjUbzY

>>3477617
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCe9THmrasw

>>3476492
I was just gonna say this man. The SNES used sound samples like a "musician" uses one of those dealies with the buttons, where each button can have a pre-recorded sound on it.

Sure the GEMS driver was mostly ass, but not every game used it. Most third party developers actually created their own, and others might have used the SMPS 68k or Z80.

But listen to this shit right here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0-mkukUH5k&list=PL532E466C1847FF92&index=9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3fOf-8L-IQ&index=10&list=PL532E466C1847FF92

This isn't an exclusive to the genny, but rather a port, that has been ported many times. It was developed by Tengen, which eventually became Time Warner Interactive. The same fucks who made Batman Returns and Rise of the Motherfucking Robots.

There is no reason that the soundtrack has to be anything but GEMS garbage. And yet I consider it ear candy.

Then you have Columns III.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnQJia53XVo&index=9&list=PL3A09E446E57BDD10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDvyVijohOM&list=PL3A09E446E57BDD10&index=11

Sonic III & Knuckles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhWfbd3_m6g&list=PLF60C8A11DBD33608
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDr0oy2Tnr8&index=28&list=PLF60C8A11DBD33608
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZH1o8N9PXU&index=12&list=PLF60C8A11DBD33608

Motherfucking Contra Hard Corps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Iu2ZqRyF-k&list=PL0E86AA386BD11845&index=21

Shining Force II:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8g1L0STnyY&index=3&list=PLEEC0D764EB9074BD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu1-4vXSOfY&index=15&list=PLEEC0D764EB9074BD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnNnYO7lxa0&index=16&list=PLEEC0D764EB9074BD

These are just a few of the amazing tracks on the Genesis. Furthermore, when I play a genesis game, I feel like the music fits perfectly with whatever game is playing alongside it, as opposed to most SNES games' soundtracks sounded out of place and generic as fuck.

>>3476498
I like the Master System man, but I don't feel like music was it's strong point. I'm no musician, but it every game feels like it's missing a drum beat or something.

>>3476492
I guess thay explains why rock n roll racing sound s great on snes and like shit on the mega drive

>>3478549
>Sure the GEMS driver was mostly ass,

GEMS was fine. It was the default instrument patch set that sucked. Games that used custom instruments sounded great (all STI games for example).

>Michael Jackson made the music

So? He didn't even write Thriller. He's a good singer but let's not go overboard here.

Genesis sounded like farts and garbage. Literally the worst sound of the gen

pretty sure the bad rap genesis sound gets is entirely from people playing on garbage early model 2 units with the faulty sound mixing circuits

problem was that early model 2s were the most mass produced genesis make

>>3478582
Thank you.
I'm tired of this "GEMS sounded bad, SMPS was better" meme coming from people who obviously never tried to program a FM synth in their life.
Tommy Tallarico used GEMS, and said it was a neat little system because he could edit the sounds with his PC and compose everything with a MIDI sequencer. (source : http://www.sega-16.com/2005/06/interview-tommy-tallarico/))
It seems way better to make music that way than to have to program everything with a custom scripting language, like Yuzo Koshiro did (and I respect him a lot for that).
If you don't believe me, download Deflemask (or any DAW + YM2612 VST / FMDRIVE / VOPM), and try to make a nice sounding track without relying on any preprogrammed synth patches.

>>3476498
>Super Scope 6 - Lazer Blazer
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yghZcwMKWY

You my nigga.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxOZojaj4n0

>>3478551

There isn't any Master System track in that post

>>3476476
You gotta be kidding me. The score to LTTP is some of the best VG music around.

>>3477390
If bumming little boys is good enough for Michael Jackson then it's good enough for you.

>>3479746
THAT NEVER HAPPENED TAKE IT BACH SHITHEAD

Outrunning a crisis

>>3479758
>TAKE IT BACH
Like Pop looked in the Sam Fonteyn composition?

>>3476476
you got that right

hey check out this hot SEGA genesis track, it's my favorite from my favorite game by all time videogame masters SEGA

*series of farting noises*

>>3479746
>le child molester meme
kill yourself

>>3479861
>expect series of farts
>hears early MS-DOS game-esque music instead

"You sure this ain't one of them memes these youngins keep spreading around son?"

>>3479886
Not him but he did have some pretty fucked up shit on his computer, like torture porn and CP

>>3479907
That was just planted there by the FBI to defame based MJ.

>>3479910
I hope that's the case man seriously.

zombies ate my neighbors sounds like garbage on the genesis, but great on the snes

>>3479987
Lol just watched a video of it and its true. No theremin at the title screen, shit farty FX, no laughing at that bit in the first level music...

>>3479907
No he did not.
>believing the mass media and buzzfeed bullshit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pnoQqlygQs
All he had was an art book with nudes in it. Many artbooks have nude legal photography of nude kids. Look up Brooke Shields "Pretty Baby". yep. nude in a major motion picture film.

>>3480016
The laughing, baby noises, etc. in the music were annoying though.

I'm glad Genesis cut them out.

>>3480778
What? Those maniacal cackles on the first level's music - and the "oh-oh" on the giant baby bit - are brilliant.

Hey, the Megadrive is great at Bobby Brown style FM synth boogie on down noises, but a half-decent PCM facility would have not gone amiss.

>>3480772
Balthus, Paul Peel, etc...

>>3479271
He wrote the vast majority of his music and played multiple instruments.

>>3478551
well the master system only has like 3 square waves and a noise channel

>>3479509
programming fm synth instruments isn't actually that incredibly hard once you understand what's actually going on.

>>3477435
yeah the sound chip is extremely similar

>>3478560
i guess, the composer of rock 'n roll racing must have been a terrible musician

>>3482616
True. Look up Vopm which is a YM2151 vst. The problem I see MJ probably had with the Genesis sound was its drum samples. It was pretty weak at playing samples because they had to be heavily compressed to save space so samples on Genesis usually sound shitty. However FM was great.