/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3453748
That first screenshot is definitely the worst, everything is just so wrong about it, but even then everything here screams "shitty mid 90's mod".

There is no art direction whatsoever, it's like those shitty fan mods that take textures from many different games and put them together; all with badly done weapon reskins and alt-palette "new enemies".

But the worst part? Their "dynamic lights", which they ripped off from EDuke32 but re-built from the ground up to avoid paying royalities, just like their 3D renderer.

>>3453748
>a "new episode".
>Gearbox

What?!?!?!11111oneone

The problem with the dynamic lights is that it seems to be their excuse NOT to build sector based shading.

None of the new levels shown in these pics depict any sector based shadow, and there is a lack of wall shading in many parts.

Sector/wall shading is one of the essence of 2.5D shooters. Mixing them with dynamic lights, can look good, if done in a right way, but this here is just lazy.

>>3453758
They acquired the rights to the entire Duke Nukem franchise through court shenanigans.

>>3453748
Damn this is quite the news. Disappointing news, but news nonetheless.

Do not buy this.

>>3453763
I hope I will live to see Gearbox burn to the ground.

>>3453748
>>3453760

Neat looking levels.

>>3453748
mite b cool

whats so bad about getting a new episode?

nesfag stop with the 'tism pls

>>3453859
>>3453843
Holy shit guys, grow some standard.

Do you not see how badly designed the flamethrower is? Even if you pass on how it's just a freezer reskin, there are still yellow parts in it.

What about the fact their idea of an enemy of fire is giving them the red palette and applying new fire sprites randomly, which can look very unfiitting. Not too mention the lack of consistency between the old fire sprites, which you can see here as well, and the new ones.

What about all those textures, that are completely unfitting for DN3D in terms of style and colour. Let's not mention the inconsistent resolutions for sprites like those damn trees. There is also the inconsistent texture resolutions in the 3rd screenshot.

Then you have all the visual noise, all at all that shit around the wall texture and pot sprite on the first screenshot.

But really the main problems is the mish mash of textures and themes and the way they handled, or didn't handle, shadows and shading.
For instance in the 2nd screenshot, they put an artificial light in the goddamn cliff, out of lazyness even though something like this CALLS for great looking strong sector based shadows.

This could be nice, as far as fan mods are concerned....

My only hope is that these are beta screenshots and all will be fixed, but I have a feeling the screenshots got "leaked" on purpose for viral advertising.

>>3453897
true but the gameplay mite b cool

>inb4 they add some of the Gearbox "humor" to the game

>>3453915
One the lines recorded by JSJ is

>bazinga

>>3453917
>check it
>it's real

I bet Duke will say something about awesome feminism too. And possibly become bisexual, Just some of that Gearbox touch.

> 20 year old game re-released with a shitty mod
> "episode" implies it's paid and new ones will come
Modern marketing is something

>>3453897
I think you're hating on it for the sake of shitting on Gearbox.

>>3453748
Besides this "new episode" it will be same game re-released for ps3/vita a year ago right?

https://twitter.com/DukeNukemGame

the twitter is the cringiest shit i've seen in a long time

>>3453897

>levels look cool
>BUT THE WEAPON IS A RE-SKIN

right, but the levels might be good fun to play.

You bleat on about art style in Duke3D like it wasn't wildly inconsistent itself.

thank god I got duke on steam before it was removed and george lucas'd

Hey, fucko. Why not just post the link to the thread on the Duke4 forums that you're stealing this all from.

>>3453941
Is Randy Pitchford having an "argument" with "Duke Nukem" on Twitter?

>>3453974
>He's the guy roleplaying Duke
BAD

"You realize you are talking to the person who owns the Duke Nukem franchise, right?" - Randy Pitchford

"we did not acquire Duke to stop." - Randy Pitchford

Expect more shovelware releases next Fall.

>It's a "NESfag spergs out over some irrelevant bullshit" thread

>>3453952
The one by 3D realms? Yea that one is ok, even comes with the DOS version and community maps. Seriously, screw Gearbox and everything they stand for

>>3454012
Those threads are fun desu

>>3453954
It was on reddit first, "fucko".

>>3453938
Not exactly; They made their own sourceport, so it's not the same. Also according to those screenshots they're adding dynamic lights to the original game, I hope they are optional.

Also, chances are that the add-ons that Megaton came with, the original add-ons (Caribbean Life, Duke It Out in DC and Nuclear Winter) won't be included this time around because that would mean paying royalties to a 3rd party; and as proven by how this port was made, they're pretty stingy with that, as they'd rather remake the entire sourceport from scratch rather than paying royalties for an existing one, even if the later costs more.

>>3453937
No. I REALLY want this to be good. I really hope I'm wrong. DN3D is one of my fav game ever and has a been part of my life for a long time.

>>3453954
>Duke4 forums

kek, who gives a fuck about this duke4 forums you speak of or forums period

>>3453897
I don't mind themes being all over the place. They're calling this "World Tour" so at least there's a clear idea.

I agree with visual inconsistencies you pointed out.

It's not yet apparent what level design will be like. Bad level design will ruin the new levels more than some visual inconsistencies in my opinion.

>>3454141
EDuke32 guy says the levels are good, he saw them because the mappers contacted him for help even after Gearbox kicked him out or something.

>implying I'm not just going to drop the new levels into my current Duke folder to play in eduke32 anyway

>>3454196
That is not going to work.

First of all the dynamic lights they are using are new, different than the ones EDuke32 use.

Then, it's been confirmed already that they changed the original game's code, which broke compatibility with 20 years of mods.

This may also mean that, as is, the new code they're using won't be compatible with EDuke32.

Maybe someone will make a compatibility patch at some point though.

>>3454249
bravo randy pitchford

Now I'm wondering, how much will they charge for this

I have a feeling it'll make people scoff at it, just a feeling

>>3454253
I don't expect Gearbox to charge less than 29.99 for this.

Didn't TX confirm there were competent people working at this?

>>3454320
the maps

Didn't TX confirm there were competent people working at the mapping side?

>>3454323
Yeah, sorry.

Those fucking textures lol

>"I came here to eat cake and say memes, and the cake is a lie. Us gamers huh?"

>>3453945
It's Duke fucking Nukem! There are more levels for it than you could hope to keep track of!

>>3453954
>fucko

>>3454249
>Then, it's been confirmed already that they changed the original game's code, which broke compatibility with 20 years of mods.
JUST

Duke Nukem can't even exist in modern gaming.
It's a gameplay relic of the past.

>>3453915
Did you ever actually play BL2?
She says this in jest, like, sarcastically. The character is making fun of people for saying it so much.

>>3454601
This character is a generic NPC and is not the only one saying this line, it doesn't sound sarcastic at all. Gearbox unironically believes this is funny. Besides if you think Borderlands meme humor is funny then be my guest, just don't put it in good games like Duke Nukem 3D.

don't give the creators of battleborn money
pirate this shit

>>3453929

What are you talking about? The chunks of maps with some sort of linking theme were always called episodes, kid.

>>3453751
>>3453770

OK, maybe it has been too long since I last played Duke and really looked around, but don't those skyboxes look fucked up?

>>3454625
well of course, of course

>>3453915
>"FEMINISM IS AWESOME"

>>3454595
only because shooters have been casualized so heavily. Dukes macho attitude is going to be in style again soon once cuck culture is eliminated.

>>3453925
>I Ain't afraid of some alien wang.
>No one steals our dicks... and lives!

>>3454632
They were originally paralaxed skies so it would just pan the sky texture up and down which made sense for the distant buildings.

But now it looks like the damn buildings are leaning toward you / the centre of the map, and they're too close / big.

They're really fucked up.

>>3454647

The way they're handled now seems to remove any illusion of depth.

>>3453748
can someone catch me up senpai?

>>3453770
>>3453751

How the fuck did they manage to downgrade a game from 96? It looks absolute shit.

>>3454760
I've seen it happen in Doom sourceports as well, they're trying to adapt old games to new technology / industry standards and they weren't made for it. They don't know dick about retro.

>>3453770
>>3453763
>>3453760
>>3453754
>>3453752
>>3453751
>>3453748
Looks fun but the lighting looks like shit. Probably worth a torrent atleast. I guess we'll see next friday

>>3454776
Wait or someone to get it working in eduke32 and not their rushed sourceport, you deserve a good first experience.

>>3453748
Why couldn't they just put the new episode in megaton

I dont want 2 different Duke 3D in my library

>"new episode"

Interesting, perhaps I will pirate this shit to see if it's any bit worthwhile. Judging from these screenshots, probably not. I'm not forgiving you for removing megaton edition from the steam store, you con-man fucks.

By the way Duke Nuke 3D's 20th birthday was like 7 months ago. Well done, guys.

>>3453917
It's over

I've seen GZDoom mods that look much better than this. The community could have made a much better product, with a much better engine, at a fraction of the cost it took to make whatever the fuck this is. Come the fuck on, Gearbox. Why do you hate the community so much?

>>3455072
$$$

>>3455072
>seeing nothing but 4 pics
>WOW I'VE SEEN GZDOOM MODS BETTER
Wow, you're /v/ as fuck

>>3455107
You can see things that look better than screenshots, anon didn't say it actually was better.

Please calm down.

>>3455107
Well we have.
You want to check out Return to Saturn X, Project MSX, and Demons of Problematique.

>>3455110
>Project MSX
Well that's just unfair.

>>3453915
How many times will Duke say "kickass" and "badass"?

Looking good!
https://youtu.be/V72P9-6S7qM

>>3453770

Jesus that lighting.

>>3453917

Every time Duke gibs an enemy:

"Heh-heh-heh, Ba-ZINGA"

>>3455110
>Return to Saturn X

Back to Saturn X is a vanilla mod.

>>3454905
Megaton Edition was shit that paled in comparison to a free sourceport.

>>3455210
Doesn't change the fact that it looks a thousand times better than this.

Whatever, new stuff doesn't ruin old stuff... if you aren't interested, don't play it.

It's not that big of a deal.

>>3455219
the gossip is fun though

>>3455219
>if you don't like, don't play it

This argument misses the entire point of criticism.

>>3455231
I feel like we're too critical sometimes. We're turning into sourpusses like /v/.

https://youtu.be/mVassPVrdp0

>>3455246
I don't feel too bad about being critical, even if it's somehow arguably overly critical, of a multi-million or multi-billion dollar company.

They aren't our friends. They're people selling us shit.

So is this a quick crash grab to try and plug the giant hole Battleborn put in their hull?

>>3454917
They pulled an "Independence Day"

So what are some good fan made mods of duke3d?

>>3455219

In my opinion, that argument only works if you are opposed to the general concept of the product in question. I think most people in this thread like Duke Nukem and older FPS games and would likely be happy with a new episode with new assets. However, from what has been shown it brings into question the execution of the thing that many of us probably want. For me right now the biggest "that looks like shit" point is the botched backgrounds.

I'm guessing the way the game now handles the backgrounds is by placing the original, unmodified texture onto a skydome that covers the play area. That'd explain why the perspective is all fucked up.

>>3454797
Money. Also JDuke.

I'm guessing this is the version that makes it to GOG at least?

This is outrageous. It's nothing but a reminder to recognise Rise of the Triad and Shadow Warrior as the pinnacle of Apogee's achievements, and appreciate those.

And they've both had their source codes released to boot! Duke doesn't even have that to make it special anymore!

>>3455413
I do wish Shadow Warrior had a bigger community.

>>3453917

>>3454781
Aw that's kind of you to say anon

>>3453763
Ouch. And apparently Apogee had barely made it reacquiring the Rise of the Triad licence. Damn.

>>3453748
And where are those screenshots from?
You stole them, or where they officially communicated somewhere?

>>3455451

>>3454797
It's complicated. When Megaton was made, someone else had the rights to DN3D, or at least thought they did (the result of the last courtcase is still unclear).

Gearbox had to take it down for a while to shift the rights, but yes they could have put Megaton back with their name on it.
However, that would have meant paying royalties to a bunch of people they don't want paying royalties to, including the EDuke32 makers who had a role in it, and whoever still owns the rights to the original add-ons, which so far are nowhere to be found in this new release.

Besides the key here is to have something "new" enough to make people pay the high price.

>>3455072
I'm sorry but if we're going that way, the DN3D community would have obviously been better suited than Doom's.
This being said, I don't know many mappers who have made great classic style maps, myself included, but perhaps it's just because they don't try.

I believe pro level designers are more likely to study mid 90's FPS level design than to sit on their ego, but what do I know really.

>>3455451
Some redditor found the screens first. I'm not going to give a reddit link here.
I don't go there btw, I was given that link, for all that matters.

I really HOPE these are beta screenshots not meant to be shared, and that all the shit in them have been fixed already, but I have the feeling that the screens were shared, or put where they found, only for "viral advertising", which is what modern games are all about.
I mean why else would we conveniently have screens of the most famous parts of the original game alongside a variety of new stuff, that really really look like promo pics?

>>3455271
Can't find the "you want to play some Duke" pic.

Download the "EDuke32 add-on compilation" for pre installed way to play a long list of the best and most famous fan made episodes and TCs, or map collections, from all era.

If you're looking for something so modified it's not really DN3D anymore, but really fucking awesome anyway, try AMC TC and WGRealms2.

For gameplay mod there are Nuclear Showdown, Duke Plus, War of Attrition.
I don't believe they are compatible with other episodes or mods but most (all?) of them come with usermaps and stuff. Dukeplus should be compatible with most maps.

For maps :
www.scent-88.com
http://msdn.duke4.net/

>>3455413
>>3455420
Play my SW map.
Please, nobody cares about it.

https://youtu.be/_f7AHHwehe0

>>3455525
>really HOPE these are beta screenshots not meant to be shared, and that all the shit in them have been fixed already
The absence of HUD kinda hints that those are promotional screenshots, so it might even look worse in-game.
I HOPE I'M WRONG

>>3455246
I'm not sour about this! Apogee released so much stuff. Like Stargunner. I'm just acknowledging Duke Nukem Forever and everything that derives from it as a hopeless mess.

>>3455549
>bullshots that look worse than the final game

That's counter intuitive

>Just making a shittier version of Megaton Edition
why

>>3455541
>Can't find the "you want to play some Duke" pic.
Here ya go. It's in the Doom thread.

>>3453974

>>3453917
Link?

>this thread
it's like I'm on/v/ again!

>>3453897
>Even if you pass on how it's just a freezer reskin, there are still yellow parts in it.

I don't think the gun is re-colored, it's just the red light source. The enemies are also red, implying that there is a red light source behind duke. The flamethrower is most likely just a modified version of the freezer gun ie. alternative firing mode. Just like with the shrink/expand ray, which are pretty much the same gun but with slightly different tubes and whatnot.

>own all Duke games on steam
>bought DNF Balls of Steel edition
>excited of Duke Nukem 3D World Tour even though it's released by Gearbox and their SJW goons

Oh who am I kidding, I'm going to buy this game anyway like the sucker I am. I'm too deep already, I can't stop now.

...h-hail to the king, b-baby... I guess...

If you didn't already know; you can extract eDuke files to Duke Nukem Megaton steam folder and switch the dosbox exe to eDuke exe, and be able to play eDuke via steam with all the steam benefits.

You can show everybody how much of a badass hardcore Duke Nukem fan you are with your high play hours and screenshots. Same thing also works with Open X-COM.

>>3453941
Cringy? Yes. Politically correct? Hell no.

As much as I hate Randy Moneymemeford, but if he knows what makes Duke a Duke and keeps it that way, it's going to be fine.

As long as he doesn't force his politics or any social justice agenda in the game.

>>3455925
Just tried that, didn't work.

>>3455913
No. If that was the lightsource, other stuff would be red too. Also look at all the small light sources, being white/yellow, here, they would be conflincting.

The enemies are red because "lol they're on fire" and the weapon recolouring is just bad.

>>3455934
Ech, I forgot to mention that you have to extract the files to "classic" folder so that when you start Duke Megaton, you click the classic mode and it will launch eDuke.

>>3455902
/v/ doesn't receive source releases and have access to tons of other add ons all around
see:
>>3455583
>>3454378

>>3455902
You're right we should worship this halfassed mappack because WE'RE NOT /v/ GUYS!!!

>>3455941
Oh. Will try that, then. Thanks

>>3454640
>once cuck culture is eliminated

>implying

It's the hip and trendy fetish anon. It's gonna spread further until it becomes a normal socially acceptable thing like gay relationships. The degeneracy won't end until society collapses like Rome did so many years ago

So, are we getting anything for Blood & Shadow Warrior next year? They are almost 20.

>>3455525
>Creating a thread completly based on some rumours of Reddit

Get the fuck out.

>>3456302
It's gonna die down, just like 80's died down once 90's hit, and how 90's "hip and cool" culture died down in 2000's. Maybe they will return some day like 80's nostalgia. But for 90's and 10's I'd say never ever.

>>3453897
Wow, it's like you never played the original. Don't you have to be 18 to be on here kid?

>>3453917
If you're unfunny, why are you criticizing humour?

>>3455246
Calling shit shit doesn't make you /v/. Calling everything shit while acting like a retard makes you /v/.

that reminds me that I forgot to play THE GATE 4 episodes addon I wanted 10 years ago

>>3456895
Why don't you explain how anything I said is like "the original", instant of blatant trolling.

>>3456548
At this point, between the website and the screenshots conveniently left where people would find them, it's an official announcement.

>>3455873
Got deleted, or hidden.

>Duke kills a pig cop
>ONE MORE FOR TRAYVON

>Duke kills an enemy with a dildo
>DICKS OUT FOR HARAMBE

>kill every single pig cop
>Achievement Unlocked: Black Lives Matter

>>3456897
What does that even mean?

>>3456489
You're getting Shadow Warrior (2013) 2. And not even the next year, but this year!

>>3457984
kill every alien
Achievement Unlocked: Chick Lives Matter

>yfw Douk makes anti-GG reference
>yfw Douk says "Black lives matter, baby!"
>yfw Douk calls aliens fat neckbeard white male nerds for objectifying women
>yfw Douk advocates gun control
>yfw Douk makes meme references
>yfw the final boss of the new episode is called King MRA (King Master Race Alien)

>>3458139
back to /pol/ nigger

And the most autistic nitpicking of the year goes to this thread.

It looks fine you sperglords. Christ you guys are whiny fucking babies

>>3458145
Make me, ahmed.

>>3458139

>implying anyone still gives a shit about gamergate

>>3458223
that faggot does. he's still thinking about it lol

>>3458223
>implying they didn't beat the shit out of gawker and held them down while Hulk Hogan cannonballed from a 10ft ladder

>>3454094
A stupid question for you.. Who have already bought the game will have the new episode PLUS the add-ons? (Caribbean Life etc.)

And the leak on Duke4 and shitgaf is right

they will replace john st John and make some BAZZINGA jokes

it will be a Millennial Duke

>>3458223
I do care if they try to turn Duke into far left political mouthpiece.

>>3458323
Replace JSJ? Is it at least going to be a very good impressionist like the one in Duke Caribbean? Someone who sounds exactly like Douk. Maybe LGR, he already did a Duke voice in some game.

>>3458336

-Millenial duke
-No Classic duke jokes
-Fully Millennial
-BAZZINGA!

>>3458336
>s it at least going to be a very good impressionist like the one in Duke Caribbean?

Wait, what?!

>>3458323

>>3458417
Duke is voiced by some guy named Dave Manuel in Life's A Beach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMqqNi5DwXg

He does excellent 10/10 job with it. I believe he also did the voice in Duke Nukem: Manhattan Project.

>gearbox

>>3458567

he forgot

Being fired from 3drealms for being a complete fucktard, and buying Duke's rights as a vendetta

>>3453748
Is that some kind of half-assed attempt at "ambient occlusion" around the plant sprites? That looks like complete dogshit, like compression artifacts.

>>3458612
It looks more like ambient occlusion is being applied to the entire screen, like on the steps too.

>>3458612
MS Paint®™ JPEG artifacts.

>>3453897
this might be the most autistic post i've ever read in my 10 years on 4chan

>>3458149
>>3458743
>>3456895
>>3455902
>>3455246
>>3454012

Honestly, have a closer look.

If you still think this looks somewhat decent by any standard, I am very sorry for you.

>>3458139
Didn't they fire the memespewing machine called "Burch"?

>>3458223
I hope you can enjoy transgendered Dyke

>>3458772
i get your point, it does look lazily shooped.

lets hope its just a placeholder...

I'm still annoyed we didn't get to see the betas. Thanks Gearbox.

>>3458223
Both sides are unbearable, but look at what we're dealing with here.

https://twitter.com/dukenukemgame/status/768919165654544384

>>3458826

Are they really trying to make Duke a fan of men?

That's it, I'm fucking out.

>>3458837
>men
THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL WOMYN, SHITLORD
#andimalloutofprivilege

>>3458820
>I'm still annoyed we didn't get to see the betas

But anon, they're in this thread defending Gearbox.

Let's be optimistic for a moment. The name of the game and screenshots imply that Douk is going to visit famous landmarks and big cities around the world. Where do you hope to see Douk visit? I want to see him in London and the climax of the map would be him exploding Big Ben or something.

Also, what would be some new cool references/oneliners for Douk?

>Mediocre!
>You're a big guy! (when entering a boss fight)
>Triggered (when blowing up a pipe bomb)
>Procedurally generated mass destruction, baby! (Duke blows up alien planet)
>What a shame (Duke sees mangled J.C. Denton)

>>3458953
Those last two are acceptable. Keep non vidya meme shit out.

>>3458959
But Duke Nukem 3D is full of non-vidya references.

>>3458953

Why? I'm not saying whatever they put in will be good, but the original had plenty of references to non-VG related stuff.Duke isn't a parody of videogames.

That being said, we'll probably get shit like:

>Your privilege just got checked.
>Eat lead, shitlord
>Bazinga
>Looks like you took a bullet to the knee, heh-heh-heh
>Epic.
>You can haz bulletburger
>Haters gonna hate
>*I'M* making America great again.

>>3458323
>they will replace john st John and make some BAZZINGA joke
fugging dropped

>>3458981
and
>I like my women both male and female

I just want that Total Meltdown TC. Be nice to play these levels without slowdown.

>>3459064
The pigcop looks so fucking out of place. I need to find this shit in motion.

>>3458981
>but the original had plenty of references to non-VG related stuff

Yeah, specifically, movies! Kind of unfortunate for Duke3d, that it got one up on that homage thing by Action Quake!

>>3453748
This screenshot seem to be based on Amsterdam, for some reasons I didn't realize that.
Besides, there are bicycles too.

inb4 420 jokes.

>>3458981


WHICH is the same shit that it was leaked back the at gaf and Eduke Forums

Dickford wants to fuck Duke community as payback for 3dRealms fucking him back when he worked for them, and the community bashing him for his stupid shit

>>3453987
This is what happens when you put time and money into a game like Battleborn only to get shit on and be DOA in 2 months.

>>3458772
But I thought it was the gameplay that matters. People don't play /vr/ games for the look, they look like shit by today's standards. The reason people are still playing duke and are interested in the new episode is because of the gameplay and levels, not muh textures muh reskins muh lighting

>>3462557
>People don't play /vr/ games for the look, they look like shit by today's standards.

I'm very sorry you if you feel that way. Beautiful art isn't dictated by the advancement of the technical execution.
As far as video games are concerned though, it is a common belief, what publishers and hardware sellers want you to believe so that you keep buying their shit at the high price. A belief that is also spread by video game journalists and their shitty reviews measuring the number of pixels and polygons visible on a screen.

>It looks better!
No, it doesn't. It's technically more advanced, but that doesn't mean that anything made with it will automatically look better than everything made during the past generations.

You should open your eyes and make up your own taste instead of having your thoughts dictated by corporate technological shenanigans. You'll appreciate retro games more.

Duke Nukem 3D has its own visual style. The colours are harmonious, sprites and textures fit together. It has strong contrasts due to a good use of sector and wall shading.
And above all, it doesn't have unfinished weapon sprites which colours bleed and which screams "interns' first shoop".

And this, is why these screenshots look like shit. Either they're not taking it seriously because, like yourself, they think "who cares it's old, it looks like shit anyway", or they don't want to pay too much for a re-release and use untrained interns, or making a 2.5D FPS is so different than a modern one that they don't know how to do it.

>>3462616
>>it looks better!
>quoting me on something I never said
Get out of here NESfag you're getting straw everywhere.

I fully understand the appeal of the art style of retro shooters but am pointing out that bitching about how they've changed the visuals is irrelevant given how the visuals are obsolete. You shouldn't even care this much. As I said earlier, it's about chewing ass and kicking gum and running through well designed levels at 40mph

>>3462718
>bitching about how they've changed the visuals is irrelevant given how the visuals are obsolete.

>>3462718
I'm not quoting you. You're not the only person in the world. I was talking about publishers/hardware sellers and pro reviewers and their ways to make you believe technological advancement equals better looking graphics.

>that bitching about how they've changed the visuals is irrelevant given how the visuals are obsolete.

So I can take all your favourite retro games and ruin all the graphics by drawing random shit on them, and also change all the light/shading work with a technical standard of the next generation that doesn't fit with those games.

Doesn't matter right, these games are obsolete.

What are you even doing on this board.

Worst part is that some of the devs working on this probably have the same mentality as you do. The cult of the Techonogod is strong within an industry that strives on constantly new technology.

>>3454094
>even if the later costs more.
How do you know that? How do you know they didn't try already? Or if paying royalties would fuck them up till the end of time for everything Duke Nukem related that'll be released by them or whoever buys the IP later?

>>3462764
>So I can take all your favourite retro games and ruin all the graphics by drawing random shit on them

no, because that is actually fucking obvious. If you weren't here sperging out about those screenshots for an entire thread I would not have even noticed it this stuff you keep bringing up.

>What are you even doing on this board
I play retro shooters. I play them because they are fun as fuck and I couldn't care less about the visuals or if the lighting is 2 shades to bright or if the sprites have had some pixels rearranged

although I will admit that it was the graphics and art style that got me playing games like DOOM and Blood and D3d in the first place. Its just that it matters less to me than it does to you

NESfag is right but idiot doom babbies would never understand something so obvious.

>>3462764
>So I can take all your favourite retro games and ruin all the graphics by drawing random shit on them, and also change all the light/shading work with a technical standard of the next generation that doesn't fit with those games.
Go ahead, I'll just not play your version and keep the original.
>something I don't like/agree with exists so I must go on a retarded crusade for the betterment of mankind

>>3462771
I don't know if they tried to negotiate for Megaton edition, but it's unlikely considering the way it got taken down.

They definitely haven't tried to make a commercial version of EDuke32, which would have been a sensible solution considering their version is a rip-off of it and they even used EDuke32's map editor to make the new levels.

So they could have used EDuke32, and the only thing they would have had to work on was the multiplayer. It would have saved a lot of development time and manpower, which is money.

Instead, they re-made from scratch with the same features (while fucking up compatibility with existing mods at the same time). Granted, the EDuke32 source is available to anyone, so they were free to rip it off at will, which probably saved time, but they still had to remake it their way.
In case you wonder "how do I know that" again,
it's not assumptions. One of the devs of EDuke32 got hired as "consultant" for a while, and he witnessed huge chunks of their code used as placeholder.

>Or if paying royalties would fuck them up till the end of time for everything Duke Nukem related that'll be released by them or whoever buys the IP later?

No, not Duke Nukem franchise, just THIS version of DN3D. A third party work used on "Duke Nukem 3D: World Tour Edition" isn't going to give that person royalties for Duke Nukem Forever or Duke Nukem 5.

And if it's a problem to "whoever acquires the IP later", then they can do just like Gearbox did with Megaton and the GoG version. Take them down.


tl;dr Yes, when I'm saying that paying royalties for product A costs less than re-making product A from scratch, I'm making assumptions, I don't know the actual numbers.

>>3462947
>>3462771
But think business for a second, the EDuke32 wouldn't have asked for royalties if the sum they'd demand was greater than the potential profit Gearbox could make if they built the product themsleves.

Because if they did, they knew Gearbox would refuse and go for the cheaper option. They must have people whose job is to estimate the long term profit in each case.

This is why paying royalties for EDuke32 would have necessarly been the cheaper way.
It's not like Gearbox needed to have it done very quickly, or didn't have the skills to do it themselves; and the EDuke32 devs are a small company who could REALLY use money. Gearbox would have had the upper hand, by far.

Honestly, I feel the only reason is that Pitchford wants to claim Duke Nukem for himself, and himself alone. And he'd rather use more company for that.

>>3462906
>Go ahead, I'll just not play your version and keep the original.

Which got taken down from both Steam and GOG. Only way you'll be paying for DN3D, PC version, will be their new version, and will remain for years.

>>3462806
The skyboses, the lights and all the visual artifacts are really obvious. I wasn't even nitpicking really, they're the only thing I could see on those screenshots, to the point I didn't even realize the first screenshot was Amsterdam.

Wow this looks great!

>>3462839
Doom babies don't care about the quality of their series. They can't even get their source ports to run the game in the correct aspect ratio, even Chocolate Doom gets it wrong by default.

>>3463001
because it's not really 'their' series. 'their' series is halo and COD where they really belong. they've merely attempted to jump onto a bandwagon because memes and 'gamer cred'. doom babbies are a disgrace to doom and all the other retro fps's.

>>3463001
Are you really a doom baby if you only play heavily modded doom in sourceports that don't resemble the original in any way?

>>3462957
I bought Atomic Edition a couple months ago. Not on Steam. Not on GoG. And not from Gearbox.

Shut up.

What settings do I need to have for EDuke32 for the game to look like the original in DOSBox?

>>3463248
You can't deny that the vast majority of people use whatever version that is easily available and playable online. This is why Megaton is the most commonly used even though it's inferior and full of glitches.

>>3463256
Use the 8bit (8bpp) classic video mode.
4/3 resolution.

Status bar set to "classic" for original HUD.

That's it.

>>3463275
One more question because I'm retarded. Can I just copy the addon folders from megaton edition like dc, nw, and vacation and set them as the custom game content directory or should I just paste the GRP files into the eduke main directory?

>>3463315
I ended up doing both and it seems to work.

>>3463326
>>3463315
EDuke32 automatically detects grp from Megaton (original game + add-ons) and they should show up to be select in the startup window (you can re-enable the startup window in the game's options if it doesn't show). Megaton made playing add-ons much easier.

Forgot to mention, originally the game's resolution could only go as far as 800*600. However, there were simple patches for higher resolutions. Later stock Build games could go up to 1600*1200 and above.

So don't feel bad for using higher resolutions. But there isn't much difference between 800*600 and above for Build anyway.

One last minor thing. EDuke32 uses Atomic Edition behaviour, even if you're using the original 1.3 version GRP.
Originally in 1.3 you could use both mighty boot kicks at the same time and couldn't kill slimers with the boot kick. This got changed in Atomic Edition, and EDuke32 goes by that rule, even for 1.3.

>>3463347
Is it worth using anything but software rendering? The rest don't seem to cast any shadows.

>>3463275
Who gives a shit what a vast majority of other people do? How does it affect you?

>>3463553
"classic" is the original 2.5D Build renderer
"polymost" is a true 3D renderer, which has the advantage of looking very close to the original while being true 3D (no distortion when looking up and down). Light and shadows remain the same. It should also be faster than classic.
"polymer" is true 3D and can give shiny lights and shadows like for Gearbox's upcoming version. However they're turned off by default now for some reasons so you have to go in "polymer setup".
I just tested myself and wasn't getting any shadow either, which is weird.
I rarely use it myself so I can't say much more.

>>3463850
Excuse me for caring about the fate of one of my fav game.

>How does it affect you?
I've been making maps for DN3D and been part of the community since 2004. This will affect the game to some degree. Look at Megaton, it had its lot of pros&cons. It brought tons of players some of which downloaded maps on the workshop, that's the pro. The con is that it was full of glitches, which speedrunners abused and made famous, giving the game a bad rep, as people will say and think "DN3D is full of glitches" rather than "Megaton is full of glitches".

>>3464852
Everything but classic gives me z-fighting issues. Have you ever had issues with the HUD flickering in Blood? I never really played that one apart from the first level and I want to give it a shot but DOSbox is giving me weird issues related to flickering.

>>3464867
Yes, in the conf file try changing machine to "vesa_nolfb", that fixed the HUD for me.

>>3464872
Thank you so much. I was having the same issue with Shadow Warrior.

>still have 3 incomplete achievements on Duke Nukem: Megaton
>they're all multiplayer achievements
>tfw servers are probably dead already

Also, what's going to happen with Duke Nukem 1, Duke Nukem 2, and Duke Nukem: Manhattan Project? They also were removed during the great Duke purge. Are they going to be bundled together with the new Duke Nukem 3D anniversary edition?

What would be the chances of Gearbox not being such faggots for one moment, and doing something nice ie. giving free copies of the new Duke 3D for people who already own the Megaton Edition on steam?

Or do they honestly expect people to buy the same game for the second/third/fourth time? I already have 2 Duke Nukem 3Ds in my steam library. 3 if Megaton Edition's classic Duke Nukem 3D is included.

Titan Quest anniversary edition was released yesterday, and the devs gave free copies for everyone who already owned the original. The anniversary edition came bundled with all the expansions and whatnot, so even if you didn't own the expansion originally you got it for free anyway. I hope Gearbox will do something similar.
If Gearbox handed out free copies for loyal Douk fans, that would be pretty cool.

You reading this, Randy? Gibi free Douk!

>>3467512
>servers are probably dead
Why don't you just go find out yourself, dickfist?

>>3467512
>multiplayer achievements

Here is how I got mine. Took a few minutes.
I had a 2nd copy of Megaton for free for reasons I'm not allowed to talk about and I installed it on my GF's laptop. Made this map.

>>3467517
Exactly. Not to mention that, fuck, Megaton sold WONDERS, eveyone has the game already.

Also Quake 20th anniversary got a free new episode. I know it's not the same but...

We'll see, but for some reasons I doubt any of this will be free. At best Megaton owners may get coupon.
Watch as the coupon will be for the main game and new episode will be DLC.

>>3467512
>multiplayer achievements

Here is how I got mine. Took a few minutes.
I had a 2nd copy of Megaton for free for reasons I'm not allowed to talk about and I installed it on my GF's laptop. Made this map.

>>3467517
Exactly. Not to mention that, fuck, Megaton sold WONDERS, eveyone has the game already.

Also Quake 20th anniversary got a free new episode. I know it's not the same but...

We'll see, but for some reasons I doubt any of this will be free. At best Megaton owners may get coupon.
Watch as the coupon will be for the main game and new episode will be DLC.

>>3458981
What if he says BAZINGA in a scene that's a jab at The Big Bang Theory?

>>3460541
I thought it was New Orleans

>>3467616
Nah, Gearbox employees must love that show.

>>3467623
Why?

>>3467625
He's memeing you. There are no legitimate reasons.

>>3467616

Ever since I heard of that, whenever someone posts Bazinga, I hear it in Duke's voice.

Today is the day. 12 more hours to go.

Oh please great gods of gaming, Lord Kek, and the others. Please don't make this suck.

>>3467759
>He's memeing you.

What did he meme by this?

>>3456302
>It's the hip and trendy fetish anon. It's gonna spread further until it becomes a normal socially acceptable thing like gay relationships.

That doesn't make sense. The excitement factor of cucking hinges on the taboo aspect. Over-saturation and acceptance will make it boring and people won't get off on it anymore.

>>3469582
Spoken like a true cuck.

>Shadow Warrior Classic remains one of the only three games I got all achievements for
>had tons of fun
>the remake was shitty but it moved in a good direction with certain things
>SW2 rolls around
>it's a Borderlands clone

any comment, /vr/?

>>3469596
Shadow Warrior remake was pretty nice, but it was super repetitive and not "old school" like the reviews made it sound like. It was more like Serious Sam and Painkiller:
>walk in room
>room gets sealed
>bunch of enemies teleport in the room
>kill the enemies
>room gets unsealed
>proceed
>repeat

The swordplay is great and feels just right, but I wish the game was more like the original Shadow Warrior with actual multilayered mazelike levels.

>>3469596
I don't know. I enjoyed the remake a lot for what it was, but it was limited and had balancing issues (above Hard difficulty, only the sword and rocket launcher are useful) and enemies tend to be bullet sponges.

I've never played Borderlands. It doesn't look interesting to me, but SW2, I think I'm going to get. Plus, it only costs 30bucks and the recommended specs are low.

If you like the original SW, check out my map. It's on Redux' workshop, but it's also vanilla and SWP compatible.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=672903269

Anyone with experience using eduke32 know how I can get the menu backgrounds images (atomic symbol, duke splash image on title screen) to display in widescreen using Duke high resolution pack? I literally see a folder in the zip file of hrp in \highres\screen\menu\ called widescreen which has all those 4:3 images in widescreen mode but I can't for the fuck of me get them to show in-game. Even replacing the 4:3 images in \highres\screen\menu\ doesn't do jack shit.

I actually AM interested, but I don't like Gearbox, and the levels only look so-so.

I'll likely pirate it.

You know I wouldn't mind seeing Duke plowing a trap.

>>3469596
H-How Borderlands clone is it? You don't mean it's open world pointlessly RPG full of memes, do you?

>>3469635
Is Redux worth getting over the original?

>>3470029
If you ask me the best way to play Shadow Warrior is still in DOS(box).

Redux uses a true3D renderer, so it's good if you're allergic to the way 2D engines look when yo look up and down, and it also has some remade art but mostly stuff like menus and HUD.
Depending on your computer you may get higher framerate more easily with Redux than with DOSbox.

Good thing about it was that it came with the 2 add-ons, but they're now free as well as the original on GoG in a DOSbox version.
https://www.gog.com/game/shadow_warrior_complete

>>3470029
Redux is fine and at least on Steam it comes with the DOS version, so if you have none you might as well get it when it's on sale. If you have the original I wouldn't bother.

9 minutes!

Hugged to death. Anybody getting anything?

>>3470508
Nope. It seems that the servers got.... nuked.

>>3469889
Bulletsponges, "random" weapons with "funny names", characters giving you fetch quests, really generic "open" levels.

It looks terrible.

>it's a stream with gearbox talking about borderlands

>>3470571
>it's a randy pitchfork baits duke nukem fans to watch his stream where he calls them bigots for calling him mean names on twitter episode

He also mentioned gamergate, as if they're bigots. Even after that broteam brought up those chatlogs that prove Zoey etc. are complete assholes who harass people and make shit up, and that GG was right about everything.

>>3470571
>think you're shitposting
>refresh page
>it's real

i still hate you though

>>3470587
Hate on Randy, he's the devil.

F

The king is dead.

https://wwwDOTtwitchDOTtv/gearboxsoftware/v/87224479?t=41m41s
i can't believe this is real

>>3470609
>that houston joke
that's pretty funny
>i unfollowed the guy cause it's sexist
oh...

I'm sorry to all OG 3D Realms devs who worked on this but:

I cannot give Gearbox my money. They are too shit a company for me to do that and not feel bad about myself.

>pre-order
>20 BUCKS

Kek. At least give us Megaton Edition owners a gift copy of it, or at least a coupon. Are we really going to have to buy the same game again?

>>3470626
This. I don't want to give a single penny to Gearbox and Randy Pitchford. I might buy this game if it's bundled in Humble Bundle, just so that I can get the game and give the money to charity.

>>3470609
>this fucking song
fuck me I wanted the new Duke, but I don't want to give money to this absolute autistic idiot

>>3470626
3D Realms is long dead. What's left is a disease wearing its skin.

>return of levelord
>return of lee jackson
>return of SJS

Fuck you Gearbox and fuck you Randy. If this was published by literally any other company this would be the tightest shit ever.

I was actually kinda excited to see this new thing but they're advertising the fact that it's the same duke but on modern consols like this is a new thing and eduke and megaton edition don't exist.

>>3470643
He did mention how it was removed from steam

but ya, sounded more like he was talking to consoler gamers

you can tell Randy clearly fucking hates Duke Nukem. I mean he got offended by the most innocent joke on the internet and then got triggered that people called him an oversensitive idiot, so he had to sing a song in front of thousands of people to validate his feelings. Imagine what babe jokes and throwing money at whores does to him, I bet he is fucking boiling inside, but needs that Duke Nukem money so he puts up with it.

>>3470640
Fucking this.

>no mention of Duke it out in D.C., Duke Caribbean, and Nuclear Winter

So apparently these are not included with the game.

>Duke (SJS) makes a really raunchy sex joke on stage
>Randy laughs nervously, gets up, and shakes as if he's literally triggered like in those [TRIGGERED] memes

What in the name of fuck? I can't believe these people exist for real. The joke went something like this:
>I had eggs for breakfast... your mom had sausage

>>3470672
timestamp?

>>3470672
Maybe it's cause you choose to see it that way?
He clearly found it funny.

>>3470679
Hard to believe he's a fan of dirty jokes after seeing him publicly flaunt his hurt feelings over some science porn joke.

RECOMMENDED:
OS: Windows Vista/7/8/8.1/10 x64
Processor: Intel Core i3-530 (2*2930) or equivalent AMD Phenom x4 9850 (4*2500) or equivalent
Memory: 2048 MB RAM
Graphics: GeForce GT 610 (1024 MB) or equivalent Radeon HD 6850 (1024 MB) or equivalent
DirectX: Version 11
Storage: 1200 MB available space

Time to rev up those RETRO GAMING COMPUTERS for some Duke Nukem 3D!

>>3469889
>>3470528

Dick jokes, selfie sticks and randomly generated levels too

>>3467548
You sucked a dick for a copy of Megaton lmao. I got those achievements playing legit and it was hard as fuck I played against some very good players.

Does Megaton Edition have fully working multiplayer? Should I just play with YANG for co-op?

>>3470714
Regardless of this being Duke 3D, that's a toaster, m8.

>Greetings and welcome to my review of Gearbox's re-release of the greatest game ever Duke Nukem 3D. Upon layering it with added modern visual effects and re-recording all of the original lines with the great Jon St. John. Though the lines had some tweaking to make them more appropriate for modern times, They have never sounded better in quality. Gearbox also went out of their way to graciously add Dukes World Tour, a new campaign featuring new levels and a new weapon. Thankfully Duke has brought his topical wit to him, making references to modern pop-culture. The Big Bang Theory, Fury Road, and the dreaded Gamergate are targets of Dukes one-liners, and while some may call them "references" or "memes" Duke has always been about taking culture and making it his own, parodying it if you will. With Duke Nukem Forever: Gearbox redefined the FPS genre by simply making fun of it with poor design decisions.
>In short: While many criticize Gearbox for their handling of the series, Duke couldn't be in better hands. As the man with the shades once said "Come Get Some!"

What did you think of Lazy Gamers Review of Duke 3Ds re-release?

>>3470907
Fuck off this isn't real.

>>3470907
shill/10
I don't use that term often but that reads like Randy gave him a script to write off of.

>>3470910
you know it will be

>>3470907

>With Duke Nukem Forever: Gearbox redefined the FPS genre by simply making fun of it with poor design decisions.

What?

like flies on shit

>>3470626
It's alright, the levels and the assets will be ripped in seconds.

>>3470907
>With Duke Nukem Forever: Gearbox redefined the FPS genre by simply making fun of it with poor design decisions.
KILLYOURSELF

Sorry, it was on reflex, I just lose it when someone defends Duke Nukem Forever.

>>3470714
>Quadcore recommended
>Higher end 2011 gpu recommended with 1GB VRAM
>directx 11 needed
>For a game from 1996 with a prettier look
What happened to optimization where we take games from 20 years ago and make them even more bloated? How the fuck did we get to this point?

>>3469626
>It was more like Serious Sam and Painkiller

Doesn't help that the new Doom is in the same style of those further spreading the misconception that's how older shooters played.

>>3470626
Yeah even ignoring the stupid shit Randy says all the time I just can't support a company that pulls some of the shady shit they've pulled before. It amazes me they've gotten away with blatant plagiarism and outsourcing a game to a super cheap company so they can use the money that was originally meant for said game on their own project instead.

So the rumours about the original level designers were true. That makes me feel even more sorry about the art.

And judging from the video, the "flamethrower" WAS a beta after all. Phew. Except it's not exactly a flamethrower, and honestly it looks kinda terrible.

>>3470648
Megaton was on console too. And there was also DN3D XBLA.

>>3470660
I told you about the original add-ons, man I told you.

>>3470714
OMG this can't be real!
>check it
It's real. Holy shit their new lights are even worse than EDuke32's in terms of performance.

>>3471134
It's the lights. They "made their own" but ripped it off from EDuke32, and those are famous for having terrible perfromance, ESPECIALLY if you don't know what you're doing.

>>3470885
I didn't suck a dick. I got hired and paid to do a thing that was never used but which required testing in multiplayer. The NDA I signed isn't valid anymore, and Megaton is down, but I'm still not going to say more.

>>3470903
Megaton's multiplayer... has a lot of latency.

>>3471278
>And judging from the video, the "flamethrower" WAS a beta after all. Phew. Except it's not exactly a flamethrower, and honestly it looks kinda terrible.

Or not. went very fast in the video and didn't notice even in "firing stance" the colours are shitting all over the place.

>>3470904
>that's a toaster, m8.

That's not really the point m8y. The specs being so demanding for Duke 3D is probably a sign there's a bunch of other things they screwed up as well. My computer is above and beyond the recommended specs but it makes me wonder what the hell they're doing to recommend those specs.

>>3455913
Looks like you were right in a way. In the video, you see a red enemy for a split second because he's near red light. This being said, I see no red light in that original screenshot so I still think it's their way to make "enemy on fire".

I am guessing this is Amsterdam.

The lack of new sprites to depict weed plantations is VERY disappointing.

This here screams "USERMAP" rather than pro. I'm sorry Levelord, not your fault, you just had to work with shitty art.

Censored health kits, apparently because the red cross was complaining about the use of its symbol in violent video games. Just repeating what I'm told.

How much of 3DRealms' work is actually in Blood? Didn't Monolith rewrite a lot of the engine? Who did the level design?

>>3462616
>I'm very sorry you if you feel that way. Beautiful art isn't dictated by the advancement of the technical execution.
>As far as video games are concerned though, it is a common belief, what publishers and hardware sellers want you to believe so that you keep buying their shit at the high price. A belief that is also spread by video game journalists and their shitty reviews measuring the number of pixels and polygons visible on a screen.

> Beautiful art isn'tdictated by the advancement of the technical execution

Stick figures confirmed for beautiful. Hey, beautiful art is not dictated by technical execution! Everything is beautiful!

>>3471342
>apparently because the red cross was complaining about the use of its symbol in violent video games.

That was their justification but I'm sure it's really because they didn't catch onto people using their symbol in video games until a few years ago and finally started cracking down on it. Think the same thing happened with the versions of Doom included in the BFG edition.

>>3471352
Neck yourself for such a shitty strawman

>>3471351
3DRealms didn't "develop" anything for Blood. They were publishers of it, when Q Studios was the developer. Q Studio was acquired by Monolith and 3DRealms sold them the publishing rights.

As for the engine, any Build game's engine is divided in two.
There is the "Build" code, developed by K. Silverman on one side, taking care of things like the rendering, and the "game" code on the other side taking care of things like gameplay behaviours and in game effects.
This is why most Build games are completely different, despite sharing that same base. This is the reason why you can't just play other Build games in a DN3D sourceport like you could play Heretic in a Doom port.

Here is an explanation on how it works :
http://fabiensanglard.net/duke3d/index.php

Anyway, so this together creates what we'd call an "engine". The "Build" code, developers of game had no access to. If they wanted changes, they had to ask Silverman. Unsatisfied with his response, Monolith reverse-engineered part of it to make their changes. But things like TRoR and in game effects are actually on the side of the "game" code.

So, Q Studios/Monolith did the level design. They did everything in Blood except the "Build" code, but which they modified to some extent anyway.

>>3471361
I always see people credit 3Drealms for the game and hear how it was sold off to monolith late in development so I was curious.

SO THIS
IS THE POWER
OF GEARBOX

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Vzg92DMev1

Hate to derail but Shadow Warrior Classic Complete is free on GoG. I know Steam offers it for free but I'm not sure if it offers the expansion so there you go.

>>3471363
I think people just mix up publishers and developers, like they often do.

>>3471364
Honestly I find the re-recordings of the old lines heard in the video sound a little apathetic. Where did you find this though?

>>3471351
>>3471361
Monolith went on to create the Lithtech engine, and likewise released the source too. They look seriously legit.

>>3471369
Fuck those slavshit sellouts.

Remember when Forever came out and everyone was like "Duke Nukem can't exist in today's society! Gaming is so much progressive now!"

Game reviewers should be shot.

>>3471385
>>>/v/

>>3471395
I remember that. I also remember them trying to explain the failure of Duke Forever because "it simply doesn't work nowadays". It just showed that the so called experts of gaming didn't know jack shit about video games. The game sucked ass because it completely missed what made Duke Nukem 3D so damn good.

Duke Nukem Forever is the perfect example of what is wrong with modern gaming.

>>3471134
its nessesary because it runs on modern OS, ms dos was an alot leaner

>>3471369
>free
It says 2.49€ here. That's cheap as fuck but still not 'free'.

>>3470904
Right now I'm on a netbook with a 2.16 > 2.58 GHz Celeron, Intel HD 4000(?) & 2GB RAM. Now this is a toaster, but it runs the web well and I actually use it to play a lot of games, many much more advanced than Duke Nukem 3D. Max Payne 1 & 2, Rollcage I & II, Red Faction; all at max settings. It runs eduke32 just great (but not polymer with lights on).

What gearbox are doing is pure bullcrappen, and people who hand-wave away specs are part of the problem. This is shit programming and lazy-af development practices.There is no justification under the sun to require a damned i3 for a game with <1000 polys on scene and billboard sprites.

>>3471507
He means this, the one running in DOSbox which is free and now has the 2 addons as well, not Redux.

https://www.gog.com/game/shadow_warrior_complete

>>3470082
Forgot to mention Redux has true widescreen support.

>>3471504
Bullshit. Even original duke running through DOSbox (on top of "modern OS") will be faster on lower specs than what gearbox are asking.

I set my laptop to cap the CPU at 600 MHz on battery and was able to play 3D games from 2000/2001 without speed loss. Modern CPUs are crazy efficient with near-1 IPC.

>>3471504
It's the lights. Hopefully they can be turned off like their shitty normal maps and any modern post processing they throw on it and everyone will be happy.

>>3471519
It's bad programming of the lights, let's be correct here. What's the fillrate of a modern card now -- gigapixels, right? So you're telling me that a medium range GPU is required to colour <1000 polys (there are about 30 polys max in that particular screenshot) and even at per-pixel that's still only 2M at 1920x1080, hardly anything even for a integrated graphics.

>>3471278
Nda because you went down on a dude

>>3471512
>He means this, the one running in DOSbox which is free and now has the 2 addons as well, not Redux.
Ah my bad, thanks.

I hope the new episode can be run in Eduke32.

>>3471571
They used eduke's editor to make them -- outside of sabotaging the format on purpose then yes, they should work.

>>3471364

By the way, this is the dreaded "Bazinga!" that JSJ recorded and people thought it wasn't real

>>3471361
>This is the reason why you can't just play other Build games in a DN3D sourceport like you could play Heretic in a Doom port.
You actually can't play Heretic in a straight Doom source port, it's just that most of the modern Doom source ports have pulled in the code from Heretic and can run in Heretic "mode".

>>3463850
It's a NESfag, everything that happens here is personal for him. He's attention whore.

>>3471519
Do they also add HD textures into the mix?

>>3471571
>>3471576

If they do actually work outside the new game, that would be the tits. Literally no reason to buy the new edition if you already own any of the older ones.

>>3471928
Even if the new episode doesn't work in EDuke32 at release, someone will make it work.

>>3471815
It might not be bad. DN3D is known for its easter eggs of famous dead characters.....

>>3471914
No

>>3471819
My bad. My point is, Blood is very different than DN3D, most likely more so than Heretic compared to Doom.

>>3455919
Welp, after reading about the shady Gearbox shit and Randy Pitchford being a dick, I've decided not to give my money to Gearbox ever again. What a shame, I would love to play the new episode, but perhaps it will be playable with eDuke.

And I really did buy Duke Nukem Forever: Balls of Steel Edition back then... and Aliens: Colonial Marines... and the DLC!

Never again.

>>3472396
I bought DNF used for a dollar and I still feel wronged.

>>3472396
DNF could have been redeemed had it gotten a modding community, the potential for interactive environments was in the campaign, but it meant nothing when there was no way to mod it. Gearbox being utter cunts really did fuck it up and it's a shame that if it did had a modding community, it would be worth pirating or buying used. But no.

One of the greatest things about DN3D was the modding community that still keeps it alive and relevant today, DNF on the other hand was always a vaporware joke in development, a polarized mess at launch, and after all that and 2 short DLC packs that are useless, it's pretty much dead. Had there been a modding community, it could have at least been mentioned as one of those games where "It's horrible, but the mods make it fun", but of course Gearbox didn't want to light the spark for a modding community, despite the fact that the modding community is what made DN3D so great and that the game was on the mother fucking Unreal engine.

>>3454350
Why is 'CASINO' reflected in his glasses the right way around?

>>3472703
>2 short DLC packs that are useless

I'm pretty sure those were part of the original intended game. But if killing Dr. Proton like some QTE mini-boss was in the prototype than I would agree it was useless to sell them as DLC.

Multiplayer was good though.

IGN posted some preview gameplay videos.

The sound quality of the old effects is ATROCIOUS. They succeeded in making it worse than a 1996 sound.

Then there is the new JSJ. There is a dichotomy between the sound quality of the that and the rest, and it looks like at least half of the re-recordings sound worse then the original.

Thank fuck the community will fix all of this with a mod, or make the new content playable in EDuke32 with the original sound quality which is all that matters.

One of the videos show a gameplay "rewind" feature.

Good thing is you can turn off the dynamic lights by the press of a key.

https://youtu.be/ASYRgHcNXVo

>>3473504
It looks worse other than looking up doesn't distort everything

>>3473504
Dude, you don't have to post the exact same shit you're saying and taking from the Duke4 forums. Fuck off.

>>3473521
That forum isn't the center of the universe. People who care about the fate of retro games need to know. For instance someone who hasn't played the original game in some time may not realize the worse sound quality if not told so.

Once they have all the important info, people then can take the decision wether or not they'll buy it.

Also what does it matter, nobody fucking goes on this 4chan board anyway.

As for "taking" from the forum.... That is a video taken from IGN, Made to be shared. If you're pissed because you think you deserve credit for "your link" you have worse issues than fucking namefags on an anonymous imageboard.

>>3473545
>For instance someone who hasn't played the original game in some time may not realize the worse sound quality if not told so.

The IGN guy clearly doesn't seem to have noticed and he's supposed to be a "pro".

>>3473504
everything about that looks shit

>>3473553
The guy playing the game for IGN was probably born after the original game was made. I'm sure "game journalists" are hired for their journalism "skills" and not game skills or knowledge.

>>3471485
Playing Deus Ex and then Human Revolution immediately afterwards last week really made me realize just how awful modern UIs are now. Damn near every action you take has XP prompts popping up and hacking causes like three of them with at least one ALWAYS blocking out a portion of the email you're trying to read.

>>3473605
they brought vegas game designers on to help the ui design for modern games sometime around 2013 or so. those little popups have been proven in brain scans of players to trigger dopamine rewards

Summoning NESfag to >>>/v/350695287 to explain the difference between BloodCM and original Blood

>>3473609
For your average kid who thinks that is progress once they get a taste of a real game those little xp shuts will lose their satisfaction

>>3473638
They'd probably give up after five minutes when playing a real game cause a wave of numbers didn't fly up after shooting someone.

>>3471485
>battleborn ui.jpg

>>3458223
Some still follow the old ways. We don't make ourselves known, but we abide, in the shadows, patiently ready for the time of need that calls us to action again.

It is not a simple job, but it is a necessary one. For Vivian. For /v/. For the gamers. We endure. We wait. We rest. Ever faithful, ever vigilant, ever ready. We are #GamerGate.

>>3458826
IT JUST KEEPS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE WHENEVER I LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH DUKE

>>3473684
fag

>>3473693
don't encourage them by responding

>>3458223
Randy does.

Probably as a way to distract people from how he's actually a snake in the grass and an embezzling crook.

>>3473684
>>>/8ch/

>>3473706
just report

>>3458826

>>3473553
>>3473601
Pro Tip: Game journalists are casuals.

>>3453748
>World
>no Tokyo
>no Berlin

wat

>>3458826
holy fuck why

>>3471364

>>3473761
ya think?

>>3473695
>>3473709
ohhhhhh nooooo it's so spooookyy and scaaarrryyy ooooohhh

Found another screenshot on some random website. No idea where they got the screenshot, but it certainly is the new Russian level.

>>3473626
haven't been on /v/ since /vr/ was made and I don't intend to

>>3473761
Yeah I know, hence why the word need to be spread.

>>3473776
Wait for it. There is good chance this will be for an easter egg featuring a dead shelton.

>>3473764
There could be a secret level? Who knows.

>>3473793
And another screen although this one is nothing special. Looks like it's from The Birth.

>>3473684
I sincerely hope you're just bored trying to elicit some funny responses right now.

>>3473504
>that contrast between original sound effects and HD duke talk

What the fuck. Why not just re-record all the sounds while at it?

Someone on twitter took a pic of the XBOX ONE pre order page and on the bottom left there is another unseen screenshot, but it's cut.

Anyone here with an XBOX ONE and a PS4 could take better pics of the new screenshot?

>>3473504
>that terrible IGN player
>doesn't pick the secret rpg from the ledge
>doesn't kick the projector room glass
>that weird duketalk where JSJ sounds like he's tired of voice acting and makes everything sound sarcastic (especially the "where is it?" at 2:41)

>>3458826

>>3473804
Here

>>3471342
That lighting looks terrible. Why does it have to be a multi colored mess in that room?

>>3473816
IMO lighting actually looks better than in EDuke32, but SSAO isn't dispersed according to numerous factors, and is instead made uniform which makes it look jarring and unnecesary tacked on.

>>3473808
I'd probably be tired if I had to deal with Gearbox's shit too. But seriously though why the fuck did they even rerecord his lines? Will there at least be an option to use the original audio?

>>3471342
LEL

anybody got a trailer for this new one?

btw the gameplay will be the same right? Thinking about getting the PS4 version only when it's dirt cheap

>>3473817
>>3473819
I don't care. In the IGN videos you can turn them off with the press of a single key so hopefully that's in the final release and I'm going to do that.

>>3473826
>trailer

Here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXYuGRhArXw

Gameplay looks the same but who knows, they could have changed somethings, intentionally or not, but it should be pretty minor.
The IGN Death Row gameplay video shows the "rewind" feature.

There is a new weapon in the new episode, that doesn't look that interesting if you ask me, and there should be a new enemy as well called "Firefly".

>>3453748
Wasn't there already an enhanced DN3D on steam or something?

>>3473846
It was "unhanced". With brand new glitches and multiplayer latency. Also it was removed from Steam when Gearbox acquired rights to DN franchise.

Real enhanced version is EDuke32.

>>3473849
I already know about eduke. I'm saying why essentially do the same thing again as something that was literally done a few years ago and already has a source port?

>>3473852
Because the guys who released Megaton were a different company who lost the distribution rights and now Gearbox owns it and they wannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnna do what they want instead even if it means some idiot like you is gonna bitch about it cry your little bitch tears bitch boy they make me rock hard yeah that's the stuff I just wanna use your tears as lotion to masturbate with it's gonna feel so good oh man I'm cumming just thinking about it.

>>3473862
>>3473862
>they wannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnna do what they want instead even if it means some idiot like you is gonna bitch about it cry your little bitch tears bitch boy they make me rock hard yeah that's the stuff I just wanna use your tears as lotion to masturbate with it's gonna feel so good oh man I'm cumming just thinking about it.
fuck off randy nothing your company has ever made has been funny

>>3473862
Is this a textual version of a verbal diarrhea?

>>3472886

The real casino has the letters reversed, just like an ambulance

retard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMpjQ0rPwDk

What the...

>>3474146
It's like quick loading on a slider, I don't see the actual problem with that.

>>3474146
>Save scumming but made more convenient AND powerful
You have to be the most casual of casuals to actually need something more than save scumming.

>>3474146
Wait a minute, I just realized they made extended widescreen weapon sprites. The RPG looks cool, at least.

>>3474152
Then don't use it you little bitch.

>>3474146
They had the same feature in xbox 360 version of Duke Nukem 3D.

>>3471364
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Vzg92DMev1
how_do_you_do_fellow_kids.jpg

>>3470714

This video shows you can turn between the 2.5d sector-lightning based rendering and the full 3d colored lightning rendering. I would prefer a mix of full 3d and sector lightning as 2.5d and low fov gets me mad dizzy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvE1pqS7JnQ

>>3473862
I didn't know Randy Pitchford posted on /vr/.

How's your embezzling going?

>>3474353
I can't get over how badly they fucked up the original sounds quality. It's so muffled and distant.

It probably gets worse in the new episode, if the old muffled sounds are mixed with new ones.

>>3474409
Sounds will probably be easy to replace unless there's something in the audio rendering engine that makes them come out as this. Unlikely though

>>3474412
Yeah sure, well, if they had to change the sounds it's probably because they're using another format and the conversion was handled terribly. Meaning, you probably can't use the old sounds "as is" but converting them, properly, shouldn't be an issue.

But really, the issue is, you can't patch the console versions. Then, not everyone on PC will patch them either, it's a minority.

But the worst about is that, it proves that this was handled poorly, by people who either didn't care or didn't know what they were doing. That is not a good sign.

>>3455541
I played your map anon

>>3474420
>you can't patch the console versions

>>3474353
The new lighting reminds me of when 3D cards were first coming into popularity and everyone discovered colored lighting, so they used it everywhere without consideration.

That ambient occlusion is also obnoxious as hell. They need to tone it down.

>>3455541
I'd play it if I still had a laptop/gaming PC my nigga. You made it look really good from the trailer btw lol

>>3474686

I'd say something about how Duke Nukem 3D runs ojn toasters but considering the remake has higher system requirements than Crysis (not joking, look it up) I guess you're just shit out of luck.

>>3474808
he's talking about SW m8. that shit wont run well on my gf's macbook or my smart phone no matter what, especially custom maps

https://twitter.com/DuvalMagic/status/772294044063895553

Just fuck you, Randy.

>>3474847
What a scumbag.

I wonder just how sad he is if this is how he leads his professional life.

>>3474847
>those aren't 20 years old yet ;)

>>3474847
Piece of shit.

>>3474353
That new Duketalk sounds so stupid. The old scream of agony was much better.

>>3474847
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

What the fuck man? Megaton Edition had those included by default! BY DEFAULT!

Also
>ShodanFreeman
I saw that guy in the gearbox stream chat, what a small world.

>>3474847
He will release them as DLC, $4.99 per expansion, you'll see :^)

>>3474847

Don't get him too mad on Twitter, he might get on stage at the next PAX and sing a song about how butthurt he is

>>3474903
>Duke It Out In DLC

>>3474847
>You want the complete experience that was up before? Fuck you, you don't get it!

>>3474917
DELETE THIS

>>3474917
*shiver*