/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3456312

The first fully 3D console FPS

>>3456312

>>3456324
Why is it such a prevalent thing to go out of your way to look at video game art the wrong way? Who the fuck sees that? Is this a symptom of autism?

>>3456312
Movie-based games were doing well enough in the 90's.

True Lies was pretty good.

Rare is legit and had an unlimited budget. Came out a couple years after the movie even though the 64 wasn't even out yet so it didn't need to be rushed like most movie games. Got this game for my birthday 1997.

>>3456328
Were you never a child?

>>3456328
>not seeing that
>not knowing that

Spotted the 2000's babby. When do classes start up again?

>>3456349
>>3456351
>When do classes start up again?
Epic.

Yes, I was a child once, and I remember seeing that box in adolescence and seeing Pierce Brosnan holding a gun, because I wasn't a retard I guess. I've never gotten this meme.

>he never played 4 player goldeneye in its heyday

>>3456359
You've never gotten anything it seems. It's ok anon, I think they have special ed classes you can try out when you go back to hike school next month, ok billy?

>>3456365
You seem very upset over this for some reason. I'm going with my original assumption that this is some sort of symptom of autism.

>>3456359
>I remember seeing that box in adolescence and seeing Pierce Brosnan holding a gun, because I wasn't a retard I guess
It's called having an imagination.
I feel sorry for you if you missed out on having one.

>>3456371
>autism
>upset

lol, not even the one you first replied to and now I'm laughing at you even harder. You literally went full retard on a japanese website over a video game cover. Fix yourself kid before you end up doing something extra stupid.

>>3456312
because it was good?

>>3456343
>Came out a couple years after the movie
Developers (or any business for that matter) often have the mentality of "if it aint hot, fresh and new the kids wont want it" Which isn't really the case. Kids want to play what the older kids are playing/watching much like the genesis days.

I remember all the older kids/dads owned 007 and similar action movies so when the game came out everybody bought the damn thing.

In all honesty it could have been based on anything but being from specifically a well known action movie knocked it out of the park.

>>3456371
Not being able to view things from different perspectives is a symptom of autism.

>>3456336
>True Lies was pretty good.
didnt have the same widespread adoption and infinite multiplayer replayability

>>3456421
>"if it aint hot, fresh and new the kids wont want it"
>what the older kids are playing/watching
precisely, i guess movie games were usually not bad because not all combinations of gameplay had been done and a known brand was just used was cover for an already good game.

later it became the norm to just repackage an existing type of game or even a release one slightly modified and rebranded, and if you're doing just that, its easier to have it done by the time the film launches on cinemas
>>3456328
>out of your way ... game art the wrong way
oh boy, guess who's the offended autist crischan here pal?

>>3456371
>You seem very upset
no, we're just poking fun at your apparent issue with someone exercising their imagination; you're the one bothered enough to comment on the drawing in the first place.

>almost all movie-based games fail?

Nope. Plenty of movie games were successful. Aladdin for Sega was the 3rd highest selling game on the system, behind Sonic 1 & 2.

>>3456481
There are plenty of exceptions.

...actually, I would be interested if someone could figure out a real ratio of good and bad movie games on each system.

>>3456457
No that's just arrogance

>>3456312
>almost all movie-based games fail?

That's a stupid misconception that's been around forever. Yeah it's easy to look at all the shit licensed based shovelware that's pumped out but there were tons of great movie-based games before and after Goldeneye.

>>3456312
Coz it had multiplayer. Garbage multiplayer but it was popular nonetheless.

>>3456382
Having an imagination isn't an excuse for blatant retardation.

>>3456312
>why did this game succeed when I bought into the almost all movie-based games fail meme
Because history doesn't care about your misinformed opinion

Rareware at his best once again

>>3457394
It's goofy looking but the gold/platinum guns are honestly pretty faithful recreations of the gun from the movie as far as 5th gen 3D models are concerned.

>>3457394
>platinum gun
wait...WHAT

>>3456312
it's a really well designed game where you can tell the developers put a lot of time and care into it

>>3456324
>>3456328
>There's what looks like a gun barrel in front of his face
>It's probably his hand(!) holding a gun

>>3456421
>Kids want to play what the older kids are playing/watching
BAM.
It's as simple as this, and an entire industry is hemorrhaging potential money not understanding it.

>>3456328
Yes. It's autism. As you can see, many people ITT have it. Welcome to /v/ 2.0

>>3456324
I never saw this, because there's a clearly defined/distinct shadow between his hand and face.

Guys it took literally less than 20 minutes for this thread to become retarded

I want to believe this says a lot about the intersection of people who post here and people who care about this game, but I fear that it may not be the case

just by posting here I am more retarded

this makes me sad

>>3459384
Yeah, I've always viewed shit wrong in games but it never crossed my mind to interpret that image that way. How the fuck else would the gun be there?

>>3456312
I think because it put the plot in the backseat and mainly used the movie as a framework to make an exciting action game. The plot is sort of there, but it's very simplified and has some alterations.

There's a few other games which does it rather well too, like True Lies and Stargate, both of these are rather challenging, and Stargate has sort of complex controls, but once you get used to them, they're really fun and exciting games.

I think what a lot of movie games do wrong is that either they barely follow the movie at all (common with a lot of NES games), or they try to follow the movie too much, at the expense of gameplay, something that's more common in post 2000 games.

>>3456331
I'm not sure about that.

>>3456484
A lot of the bad ones were published by LJN, an exception being True Lies, which is surprisingly good for being published by them

>>3459408
It took OP 20 minutes to start a thread?
I concur with your assessment of your retardation level.

>>3459471
Well isn't it obvious? He's holding it in his ginormous ape mouth.

>>3457078

18+

>>3456324
>>3459384
>>3457530
>>3456328

>>3457439
it's a pen

>>3456312
>almost all movie-based games fail?
Common misconception.

>>3460486
The gunbarrel of Francisco Scaramanga's Golden Gun was indeed disguised as a pen.
In the movie, anyway.

It was a passable FPS on a home console so already a rarity.

It had the multiplayer aspect that made it popular for kids to play around at their friends house or college dorms whatever

>>3460486
yes
>>3460648
no the Golden Gun in the movie is literally made out of a Zippo and a Fountain pen.

>>3456343
>Came out a couple years after the movie

Two to be exact. But, the DVD release of the movie happened around the same time (late 1996 - early 1997, I think), so the movie was still new.

I still have the first print japanese Goldeneye DVD somewhere, it was one of the first movies ever to be released on DVD. I'll need to check the dates on it once I get home.

>>3456312
what about nightfire for the ps2?

>>3460705
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Man_with_the_Golden_Gun,_The#Golden_Gun

>The Golden Gun is a fictional 4.2 mm single-shot handgun, the trademark of hitman Francisco Scaramanga (Christopher Lee) who uses it to assassinate his marks. It uses special golden bullets for maximum damage. The weapon breaks down for concealment and is usually carried as a series of everyday objects; a pen, a cuff link, a lighter and cigarette case. Scaramanga typically only uses a single bullet for each hit, but carries spares hidden in his belt buckle.

>At least three Golden Gun props were fabricated for the movie; one, which the crew called the "Gimmick Gun," was made for scenes where Scaramanga assembles the weapon, while the "stunt gun" was used for scenes where the gun is being handled, and did not come apart. A third version was built for firing scenes which could fire percussion caps.

The pen wouldn't actually work as a pen, as it has to be hollow and have a bore to act as the barrel for the gun (having no room for ink or graphite), the lighter would have to house the trunnion for the barrel and attachment point for the grip, as well as it's lid acting like a breech-block, the firing-mechanism and linkage for the trigger (which would be the cufflink) would also have to fit, there wouldn't really be any meaningful room for it to act as a real lighter.
The grip is a cigar case, which probably wouldn't have to contain any actual mechanical or functional parts, just being a grip.

>>3460741
What. The. Fuck man.
Are you retarded or just trying to have a giggle?

>>3456312
sucks that it is hailed as one of the all time worst Jmaes Bond Movies and it's Pierce Brosnan...
>fucking mr. mama mia.

but it was the first real FPS
if metroid would or any other franchise beat rare to the punch it would have been just as great.

>>3460751
Am I incorrect?

You say it's a pen, I'm saying it's a gunbarrel disguised to look like a pen.

>>3460757
Nice bait.

>>3460723
Not Re. T- -ro

>>3460760
I was talking about the prop and how they made it. Not referencing any practicality. Jesus Christ it's a fictional weapon.

>>3460757
You're either neo-shitposting or confusing it with Die Another Day. Goldeneye is hailed as one of the all time best James Bond movies.

>>3460794
Goldeneye is one of the best 007 movies for sure.
But Pierce Brosnan, especially in retrospect, was a terrible James Bond.

>>3460801
I think that was more the studio, writers and directors fault, than him as an actor, he was perfectly fine in Goldeneye, really good even.

>>3460810
That's possible. I find his character and performance of that character very dated. Not because it's "old", mind you, but because it is absolutely "90s". On the other hand, I don't find any of the other Bond's performances to be quite so indicative of something like that.

>>3456312
>almost all movie-based games fail?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_Home_(video_game)

>>3460801
Esquire, seemed to think otherwise and as do I.

>>3460801
What are you talking about? Brosnan was the best James Bond, especially in retrospect. Don't tell me you like Craig, the biggest mistake in the history of Bond casting. If you're mixing up the names of the most well known Bond movies I don't think you can comment.

>>3456324
>my friends would point this out
>only ever saw it as a trigger finger
>wasn't until later that I saw it on /vr/
>now I cannot unsee it

>>3456312
it had a slappers mode where most other games didn't.

>>3456312
because it was better than the movie?

>>3460718
>I'll need to check the dates on it once I get home.

Got it.
http://www.suruga-ya.jp/product/detail/133001052001
Release date: 1997/04/24.

That's the first print Japanese release of Goldeneye. The USA release came out in 1997 late March.

That, plus Tomorrow Never Dies was released in 1997 in the theatres. So James Bond was very, very fresh in the memories of consumers, the fact that they made a game of the previous movie mattered little - it was still James Bond.

>>3460801
>But Pierce Brosnan, especially in retrospect, was a terrible James Bond.

Hell no he wasn't.

>>3460801
GOLDENEYE WAS THE BEST BOND MOVIE

THE 3 AFTER THAT WERE TOTAL GARBAGE.

BUT THAT WAS THE FAULT OF THE WRITERS.

BROSNAN WAS STERLING. GET IT RIGHT.

>>3460801
What's it like to live in a world where Lazenby and Craig don't exist?

>>3461251
I've only seen Casino Royale, but I thought that was pretty good, at least compared to the few movies that preceded it.

I've always felt that Dalton was kind of underrated.

>>3456312
Might be because it was one of the few games worth playing on the N64.

>>3461251
Lazenby is the best Bond so far. The only one that is even close to the novels.

>>3462075
I can't help but like Moore the most, his looks and presence just feels perfect for Bond to me.

>>3456312
well designed?

>>3456312
It was made by a competent development team without a deadline.

When you have good people working without time constraints, wonders tend to happen. dont quote me on the deadline thing though, but 2 years is too long to be 'corporate controlled'.

>>3456312
It was a perfect storm. Practically everything came together to make it mega popular.

>>3456312
Made by a solid developer without the usual rushed release that most movie games suffer from. This at least gave it a chance to be decent.

But also the 4-player multiplayer was a huge breakthrough and probably the single most important thing that set it apart from other console FPS like Turok or Medal of Honor. If it hadn't been for multiplayer, it'd have a much different reputation.