/vr/ - Retro Games

...it's an RF adapter. It'll work with an SNES but it isn't ideal.

See if it fits in the Snes first, m8.

>>3456108

It fits, but I have no idea where I'd even plug it in on a modern TV.

>>3456113
Where the coaxial line for a cable hookup would go, if I'm not mistaken. That's how I had it on my TV a bit back, anyway.

>>3456113
It will either say RF or antenna. You should have a tube tv if you're going to use analogue signals, however.

What kind of cable were you expecting?

>>3456116

Yeah, all I have are modern LCDs and a Plasma. I've got some time before my flashcart ships, so I'm just gonna buy the composite cable.

>>3456135
Don't you composite. If you're going to buy new cables get a SCART cable. I think the Snes can output RGB. If you're going to be using LCD tvs you need an RGB to HDMI upscaler. But you should really be using a CRT if you want the best possible picture and less input lag.

>>3456104
Look up HDVisions cable. Its the absolute best cable on the market for the SNES. They are out of stock atm but keep checking on them.

>>3456104
I want to insult you for your ignorance.
But you caught me on a good day.
I will ignore this thread and move on.

>>3456141
Don't listen to this moron. CRTs are trash. Like listening to a cassette tape when you could listen to .wav.

>>3456141
>le scart maymay

>>3456238
Why does SCART trigger composite fanboy Americans so much? Is it because they'll never have true RGB with their RCA component cords?

>>3456243
Because they're difficult to find here and no TV supports them unless you use some kind of converter to get it into HDMI or YPbPr.

>>3456104
They came with the SNES too.
>>3456851
Irrelevant, they're still the highest quality cable you can get for a SNES (and megadrive, saturn, master system, ps1 etc etc )

>>3456851
>and no TV supports them unless
I once found an RCA set in a thrift store with a RGB input; it was one of those special "monitor" models.

Why did burger and Jap TVs never have RGB?

You already made a mistake by buying a NES to play on your HDTV. If you wanted to do that, you might as well have just hooked a laptop up to it with an emulator installed. A composite cable is going to look like absolute dogshit on your TV. What you're doing is the equivalent of buying a nice turntable and a bunch of vinyl, then hooking it up to your $10 set of computer speakers. You might as well have just pirated the mp3s.

>>3456135
>LCDs and a Plasma.
Composite will look like crap on anything over 20"

>>3457095
Yes but this is no longer 2005. That does not apply to recent model HDTVs.

I'm not sure if your tv displays 240p properly or interprets it as 480i as mine does, if it is the latter, it will be a flickering mess.

I used to use a dvdo iscan plus v2 I got off ebay but now I just use a Wii, component cable and play the games in double scale on the ig set. CRT is the way to go for 5th gen and down if you have the space.

Buy an S-video cable for the SNES.

>>3457101

Unless I've been living under a rock, modern HDTVs do not support 240p.

This has to be bait.

>>3457132
plenty of samsung and other decent hdtv's can accept and scale 240p reasonably well.

>>3457093
Cause they had cheap shit.

>>3456235
>Don't listen to this moron. Listen to an underage moron instead.

>>3457093
>never
Because things you haven't seen don't exist? It was very uncommon in burgerica but not so uncommon in Japan.

>>3457098
No it won't. How would you know anyway? You've never seen it 2000's baby.

>>3457150
My newest Samsung scales 240p very well in game mode. It doesn't use any fancy filters and just gives you big blocky pixels. Lag is about 1/2 a frame.

>>3456135
>Yeah, all I have are modern LCDs and a Plasma.
So why are you buying equipment for retro systems that weren't designed to be used with flat screen TVs?

Get a CRT.

>>3457084
>they're still the highest quality cable you can get for a SNES (and megadrive, saturn, master system, ps1 etc etc )
Which is irrelevant if no TV has SCART ports.

>>3457254
Get a European made tv. Phillips maybe.

>>3456104
get yourself one of these op. do not fall for the pvm meme. RF is the best video signal.

>>3457254
Transcoders exist, and so do upscalers, all which take RGB signal from a SCART plug.

>>3457353
Well, that's a great idea. Too bad I live in Pennsylvania and not Denmark.

>>3457373
Stop this meme. Anyway, I'm pretty sure you can find a Phillips tv, it's not like they're an unknown name.

Reminder than YPbPr component is mathematically identical to RGB and either can be transcoded into the other with zero lag or loss.

>>3457353
>Get a European made tv. Phillips maybe.
Brilliant, that way I get to play my NTSC games on a PAL TV at 50Hz.

>>3457372
>Transcoders exist, and so do upscalers
Brilliant, pay for an adapter to use a specific cable on a specific TV when you could just use component or S-video, ports that are common on US CRTs.

Do any US-spec Philips TVs even have a SCART connector? I found a bunch of pics showing the back of them, but they all linked to UK sites.

>>3457441
>Brilliant, that way I get to play my NTSC games on a PAL TV at 50Hz

Actually it won't even work at all; a PAL TV can't sync to an NTSC signal because of the refresh difference.

>>3457441
Are you retarded? Phillips exported tvs to the US, for one. Secondly, every good tv is 50/60hz. You Americans really are stupid.

>>3457091
You mean the RCA Dimensia. These did have a RGB connector, yes.

>>3457449
>Are you retarded? Phillips exported tvs to the US, for one

As far as I know, US-spec models don't have the SCART connector.

>Secondly, every good tv is 50/60hz

HDTVs will accept either NTSC or PAL, but I assume he means a CRT TV.

>>3457453
Yeah, that's what it was. Unfortunately no S-video on that thing.

>>3457449
>>3457446
No SCART on this one.

Or this.

This pic came from a UK site. Note it does have SCART.

>>3457091
In all likelihood, that was for CGA, RGBI, and not analog RGB.

>>3457453
"EIA Multiport" or not, it's not wired for RGB.

With all those composite inputs already available, why in the hell would they put in a COMPOSITE ONLY SCART connector?

>>3457456
Refresh rate is not tied to color encoding.
A PAL TV(as in, only PAL decoding) fed an NTSC signal would in most cases be able to display a black and white version of the picture. An NTSC TV would do the same with PAL.
Furthermore, you have places like Brazil that used PAL encoding method in an NTSC video system, and stuff like PAL60.

>>3457084

Enjoy 50mhz, faggot.

>>3456235
That's actually a good analogy

Cause .wav is garbage

320 kbps .mp3 for best blend of portability and sound quality

V0 .mp3 for best portability without compromising sound quality too much

>100 kbps .mp3 if you're still using a 512mb mp3 player from a decade ago

.aac if you're a faggot

.wma if you don't know how to rip a cd

.flac if you want to pretend you can hear a difference through your $30 headphones, just like how anon likes to pretend that using an lcd takes 2 seconds to see the action of the button you pressed.

>>3457540
No, it was >>3457453

>>3457540
>A PAL TV(as in, only PAL decoding) fed an NTSC signal would in most cases be able to display a black and white version of the picture. An NTSC TV would do the same with PAL.
I thought that too, but the sync pulses on a PAL signal are indigestible to an NTSC TV since (obviously) they're 50Hz and not 60Hz.

Some RCA TVs from that period did actually have a TTL RGB connector with the idea that you could use the TV as a terminal to dial into online services for checking the weather or stock indexes or whatever, but this never really panned out. You would have rented a box that plugs into the RGB connector on the TV.

>>3457540
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RCA_Dimensia

According to this, it is definitely a SCART input.

http://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?topic=793.0

However, this claims it's for a cable descrambler box. On the other hand, this would refer to a 1989-ish set which was after Thomson bought out RCA. Therefore, I think the <1988 models (which were still actual RCA TVs and not Thomsons) have the RGB input and it was changed to something completely different later on.

>>3457562
I stand corrected on that one, but it's a good thing to keep in mind in general with mid-80s sets in the US. If you see something labeled RGB, it's almost always going to be Digital RGB and not Analog. Nice for an old computer, but not for consoles.

>>3457585
The "EIA Multiport" (what it is called on the Dimensia) is a SCART connector, but they are not wired for RGB, only composite+audio.

The post on neo-geo which had a photo of the Dimensia's manual stating explicitly that it isn't wired for RGB is still around, but where ever the photo itself was being hosted at has deleted it.

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?238415-CRT-Fetish-Thread/page131

Reminder to not feed the brony tripfag. It is neither kind nor necessary.

>>3456104
Is this really what we've come to

>>3456104
>>3456113
That's the only cable I've ever seen come with a SNES. Do (retro) consoles not usually come with RF adapters in your country? I can't fathom not knowing what to do with one, it's the only possible way to play so many of my consoles.

Anyway, just plug that cunt into the aerial port and tune the console into your TV on an analogue channel. Lemon squeezy.

>>3457456
>I assume he means a CRT TV.
Again, anything that's not so old that it has a wooden finish will support 60hz.

>>3457558
>320 kbps .mp3 for best blend of portability and sound quality
>V0 .mp3 for best portability without compromising sound quality too much

Opus is the current lossy audio format king. mp3 was made obsolete years ago by Vorbis anyway.

>>3457435
>YPbPr component is mathematically identical to RGB
Stop this shit. Salty Americans need to grow up.

>>3456141
>using RGB over composite

>>3456235
It's actually closer to listening to the instruments before it goes through mixer and effects board to properly mic and balance the instruments and vocals.
It's actually more analog to listening to a shitty live version in the studio than getting the properly mastered CD version where everything works well. Yeah the instruments are there, but it doesn't sound right and needs fine tuning to become the masterpiece it is.

>>3456104
Not the best cable I'd use but it was shipped with some Snes, if I'm not incorrect, use an N64 cable dude.

>>3458080
No mp3 was made obsolete by aac but vhs won

>>3458070
I have only one CRT TV left, which is a GE 19" from 1995 (a low end model with RF only). It doesn't have any wooden paneling but I'm very sure it will not take a PAL signal.

>>3458243
>stop using facts to show what a retarded underage youropoor i am

>>3459403
It's a bold faced lie, not a fact.

>>3459535
Just because you're ignorant doesn't make facts you don't like into lies. You're just a clueless fool.
Use teh googles kiddo. You might learn something.
Just joking. You won't understand it and misquote anything you find to back your youropoor fantasy.

>>3459808
>ignorant
Go back to tumblr, kid. Using buzzwords won't make your lie any more true.

>>3456113
>plug it in on a modern TV.
You've already fucked up.