/vr/ - Retro Games

Wario always seemed more fun than Mario. I only played one on the gameboy as a kid, but I remember liking it.

Are any of the ones on the virtual console worth grabbing?

>>3444242
Yeah, they're all great.
My favorite on the VC other than the first one would be 4 but 2 and 3 are also amazing. The general consensus on the internet seems to be that 3 is the best. 2 and 3 are pretty different from 1 and VB and 4 is like a combination of them.

Someone should really remake that Virtual Boy one. Whether it be Nintendo for the 3DS or by some random guy on the PC with VR headset support.

>tfw my virtual boy doesn't turn on

If I'm lucky it might just be the battery box (which actually has battery leak so it's probably fucked), and not the headset itself, but damn I miss playing this and Teleroboxer.

VB Wario Land is amazing.

Screenshots or emulation don't really make justice to the real deal.

>>3445089
maybe you should remake yourself until you can play games without your stupid remakes.

>>3445139
The game deserves a remake. It's a masterpiece trapped in a shitty system.

>>3445140
If you don't like the system, then emulate it, you shit eater.
>but muh colors
Then don't fucking play it. Then again you probably haven't more than 5 minutes.

>>3445152
I am playing it. I love it. I just thought a remake would be nice.
Would also help get the game to a larger audience.

>>3445152
If it's the colors that are the problem, pretty much every VB emulator can change the palette to black/white instead of black/red.

It's a real pussy solution but it works.

>>3445153
I'm not sure if it's AM2R that attracted people like you or if I just didn't notice them before. You just want a remake for the sake of a remake. What do you even want to change? If it's "the system" it's on then why do you need a fucking remake over 3DS VC or something? Who cares if "a wider audience" can play it? Think a little before you post.

I'm kind of sad NInty isn't doing anything with this series, but at the same time I'm glad they aren't milking the shit out of it.
Besides, the games we have are classics so we don't really need more.

Garlic Tier:
VB Wario Land

High Tier:
Wario Land 4
Wario Land II

Mid Tier:
Wario World
Wario Land 3

Low Tier:
Super Mario Land 3
Wario Land: Shake It!

D'OH I MEESED Tier:
Master of Disguise

>>3445241
>SML3
>low tier

we can't agree on that one

>>3445243
It's very short and the levels are pretty lackluster, especially all the water and autoscrolling train ones. Bosses aren't as wacky or interesting either really.

>>3445254
I really love the feeling the game gives. It's rough around the edges but that adds a lot to it.

>>3445241
Garlic:
Wario Land 4

High:
VB Wario Land
SML3

Mid:
Wario Land II
Wario Land 3

D'OH I MEESED:
Master of Disguise (really tho this game blows)

Haven't played:
Wario Land Shake It
Wario World

>>3445305
Not a fan of the puzzle Warios, I take it?

Wario's Woods is severely underappreciated.

>>3445321
I mean, I like them, just not as much as the other ones. They're still amazing games.

>tfw Nintendo is too ashamed to remake the best Wario game

4's biggest flaw is it forces you to backtrack every level after flipping the switch.

3's biggest flaw is it takes all your past abilities and locks them away.

>>3445367
Nintendo rarely do remakes anyways, I don't think it has anything to do with being ashamed of virtual boy

>>3445372
Oh really?

>>3445380
Congrats, you listed a reason why I used the word "rarely"

Here, I'll help you out
Kirby NiD, Zelda OoT, Zelda WW, Zelda TP, Metroid ZM. Star Fox 64, Mario All-Stars
9 remakes total from a company making games for over 30 years
None of which were originally on a handheld

I guess you could include Game & Watch Collection

>>3445372
Yeah they only do brand new original releases

>>3445372
Pic related

>>3445386
What are you on about
Nearly every new nintendo game is a blatant rehash

>>3445386
What about Kirby Superstar Ultra, the 4 super mario advance games on gba, super mario 64 ds, super mario dx, pokemon heartgold soulsilver, pokemon omegaruby alphasapphire, bs fzero, bs zelda, warioware mega party, links awakening DX, The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past & Four Swords for gba?

>>3445397
Sorry for forgetting about the Pokemon games.
Rest are enhanced ports.
And again, all (except pokemon and warioware) were console games being remade or even ported.

Thank you for ruining a quality Wario thread btw.
Go play some Wario World, it's fun.

>>3445387
He said rarely you autist

>>3445403
>enhanced ports

Then where do you cut the line between port and remake?

>>3445403
Super Mario Advanced was a total remake of Mario 2. The rest might be "enhanced ports" but that was a remake.
64 DS was also definitely a remake.
Superstar Ultra? Definitely a remake.
They all added new shit, they're remakes.

People keep saying how great VB Wario land is so damnit, it's about time I play it. Can anyone point me towards a good VB emulator?

>>3445445
mednafen

>>3445445
Mednafen
It doesn't have a GUI on it's own so if you're not good with computers you can use MedGui or Retroarch

I just beat it :D
Really fun game.

>>3445305
Garlic:
Wario Land 3

High:
SML3
Wario Land 4

Mid:
Wario Land II
Wario Land Shake It!

Wario May Suplex:
Wario World

D'OH I MEESED:
Master of Disguise

Haven't Played:
Wario Land VB

>>3445089
One of the VR systems has a virtual boy emulator

>>3445305
You know what, scratch that.
Swapping VB and 4
Fucking amazing game.

>>3446065
>scanlines
>on
>a
>fucking
>virtual boy game

>>3445168

Wario Land is the best GB games, VB Wario Land is the best VB games, Wario Land 3 is the best GBC game, and Wario Land 4 is the best GBA game. I can't think of a single other game series that is as consistently great as Wario Land.

>>3446583
It's just the shader I had on and I didn't really care too much to replace it
Looks better than no shader t b h

>>3446602
Exactly my thoughts. How is Wario Land this good?

>>3446602
>Wario Land is the best GB games
Surely, you meant Wario Land II?

>>3447495
Wario Land II is great but it ain't got nothin' on the original

Redpill me on why SML3 gets so overhyped on this board. It seemed mediocre at best, and surpassed by all its sequels.

>>3447556
Because it's fun and I like the feel of the game

>>3444223
I'm so mad I didn't get a VirtualBoy when they were like $40. Now with the VR making a comeback everyone wants 100+ for them.

I wonder if the 3DS has a functioning emulator of the Virtual Boy.

>>3447556
>redpill

Virtual Boy Wario Land is the true redpill

Anyway, there is nothing to redpill about SML3. it's a fine game. It isn't that people overhype it, but some people seem to think less of it. I personally like the more straightforward platforming design instead of puzzling from later games, but I like all Wario Land games quite a lot, none of them are mediocre.

>>3447556
>>3447676 is right. Also the game has an appealing style of its own. Using the hats and finding treasures is fun af too.

c'mon guys you can stop pulling my leg now. there is no way Wario Land for Virtual Boy is actually any good, let alone an overlooked masterpiece.

It's the Virtual Boy for crying out loud!

>>3448124

The only bad Virtual Boy game was Water World.
All the other games are pretty good or at least decent, all 20 of them, VBWL being the best.

>>3447648
Nintendo is too ashamed to remind people VB ever existed

>>3448146

There were Virtual Boy mini-games on the Wario Ware games, on Smash Bros. Brawl there was a section for VB titles on the historial, and Nintendo themselves have made references to the VB in recent promotional footage, I remember a Virtual Boy scene on the trailer for Tomodachi Life a few years ago.

Beats me why they haven't released VB titles on the VC, it's not like they're risking anything and I'm sure a lot of people want to play Wario Land.

>>3448124
The system is shit but that doesn't mean it was incapable of having a few good games.

>>3448167
the only bad thing was the lack of games
VB was goat

>>3448181
red
headaches
no strap so back pain

>>3448183
>headaches

Not true, back/neck pain is real though.

>>3448189
it's true for some, not all

>>3448202

The thing is, staring at the VB's screens is less harmful than staring at a standard CRT.
The only headache people might experience might be due to motion sickness, but that isn't inherent to the VB.
Also might be because some people who tried out the VB (at a store, kiosk or whatever) didn't adjust the focus switch.

>>3445089
It's not the same if it's not in the original system.

Why people hate wario land shake it so much?

>>3448253
The game is good because of its gameplay, not the gimmicky 3D effects.

>>3448448
I mean, this is /vr/
People are more likely to not like newer games

Garlic:
Wario Land 4
Wario Land: Shake It!!

High:
Wario World
Wario Land III

Mid:
Wario Land II

Wario May Suplex:
Wario Land
Wario Land VB

D'OH I MEESED:
Master of Disguise

>>3448493
>Wario May Suplex:
>Wario Land VB

>>3448493
>VB not Garlic

How much would I like these games f I'm not into exploration or finding secrets? Call me simple if you want but I prefer straight platformers where I can just jump on shit without worrying about exploring every cranny.

>>3445334
I fuckin love Wario's Woods. I played the hell out of the NES one in Animal Crossing, later bought the SNES one. Both games are awesome

>>3446583
boo fuckin hoo someone is muddying the visual integrity of a VIRTUAL BOY game lmao

>>3448493
>Wario World
>high

>>3448639
The only reason it's not Garlic tier is because the game is way too short. There's only 8 levels.

>>3445241
>Wario Land 1 in low tier
I don't know you but I already hate you. It's the only Wario game with any semblance of challenge.

>>3448614
Might like:
Wario Land 4
VB Wario Land
SML3
Maaaaaybe Wario Land II

Will not like:
Wario Land 3

>>3448662
VB Wario Land gets pretty hard near the end

>>3448448
4 rehash, and the things it does new aren't very good, like Subwarine.

>>3448614
honestly that might be the point of the whole series. I haven't played Wario World for GC but that might be a little less oriented toward exploring and collecting but even so, that's all the charm in Wario games

>When the music comes on in VB Wario Land

>>3448674
I just bought a copy yesterday for like $8 and I'm enjoying it BECAUSE it's a 4 rehash. 4 is one of my all time favorite 2D platformers and I'll shamelessly take more of it. Plus the art is pretty good and that intro was such a tease to the 12 year old part of my brain that always wanted a Wario anime

>>3448923
Does anyone have controller mappings for this game in Dolphin? Does it work OK with a controller? If not I've been meaning to hack my Wii anyway but it would still be greatly appreciated.

>>3448931
Dont work so well with controller, a lot of times you have to shake or moviment to wii remote.

>>3448931
Dont work so well with controller, a lot of times you have to shake or moviment the wii remote.

>>3446371
>SML3 in high-tier
>Wario World lower than Shake It! and SML3
Retard alert

What's your opinion on this book?

>>3450082
Never read it, but I'm interested.
Got a pdf?

>>3450082
If you're gonna shill, then at least tell us why you want us to read it.

>>3448656
Agreed. Wario World is quite a fine game, but it is criminally short. The fact it retailed for 50 dollars was a sham; it should have been 20 - 30 tops.

Any good USB controller for VB? Used ones are a bit pricy.

>>3450082
It's garbage

>>3451694
Wario Land 3 can be really annoying sometimes.

>>3445140
>shitty system
I wonder why percentage of people who say this about the VB have actually played one, rather then parroting memes and AVGN etc.

Not saying it doesn't have flaws, but no it's not terrible.

>>3445445
Red Dragon

>>3450082
it was an okay read

>>3447648
There is an in-progress Homebrew emulator. Only fictions nicely on a New3DS atm though. Unplayable slowness on an old3DS, like many homebrew emulators

>>3448921
https://youtu.be/0a8-qo5ZfjY

>Hat Wario will never make a comeback

>>3454256
ehh
the only hat i really liked was the jet/eagle

wah

Never really played any of these. Which should I start with?

>>3458769

Release order

>>3458775
sounds good

grabbing them on my 3ds, they're all pretty cheap

>>3458782
If you want puzzle/adventure games, do 2 and 3 first. If you want straight-up platformers, do SML3 and VBWL.

>>3458861
hm, not loving sml3 yet, but maybe it starts slow

>>3459197
imo, it's not that great. all the later wario games far surpass it

>>3458861
>Wario World lower than Wario Land 2
>Wario Land 1 on same level as Super Mario Land 2 and not higher
Why?

>>3459330
it's shit. fucking take off your nostalgia glasses

>>3458861
VB should be as high as 4, if not over.

This is a perfect game. This is the definitive platforming experience on the market right now. Not only is it perfect, but it built upon everything that made the previous game great, which is rare to see nowadays. Usually in sequels your character has to relearn everything... Not here.. Not Wario Land 3. When people think of "2D collectathons" this is the game that springs to mind. It has everything that makes 2D platformers fun. Large explorable open worlds. Moves and abilities to unlock. Various transformations to control. Fun boss battles. Addictive minigames. Time Attack. Replayability. It's here. It's engaging. It's amazing. It's a 12 hour + campaign length and up to 20+ if you want to 100% it. There is no other game, don't mention Super Mario Bros. with its shit controls and bland gameplay. Don't even list Metroid or Kirby. This is the game. Accept it.

>>3459943
>this delusion
VB is garbage

>>3460628
No it isn't. VB is garlic. At least explain yourself.

>>3460770
You can't even play the game on actual hardware without getting motion sickness after 15 minutes in best case scenario, worst case scenario you go blind.

>>3460776
You just criticized nothing about the actual game. Play it on an emulator.

>>3460797
>emulators

>>3460806
Well that's the only way you're going to enjoy the game for what it is.
If your a "muh morality and legality" type of guy you can dump the game yourself.

>>3460776
You have an underlying medical condition if you get motion sickness from playing a side scroller on a fixed position screen. Just emulate it then, as it'll be at least 80% of the experience.

VB WL is top fucking shelf. Best of the series, and I like the whole series.

>>3454209
>Not saying it doesn't have flaws, but no it's not terrible.

VB is a terrible console
The gimmick was uncomfortable to use, it gave you headaches after 30 minutes or less and the library was ridiculously lacking

Despite being parroted as the worse console ever by idiots like AVGN, this is the one time they couldn't be wrong even if they tried. There's literally nothing good about the VB gimmicks and the best game (Wario Land) relied on literally none of them but an insignificant fraction of the 3d effect for the background jumping and even it could be done on other hardware if they really wanted to

>>3445241
>>3445305
>>3446371
I guess i am the only person that liked Master of Disguise

compared to the others it was meh, but as a game i still liked it alot

What about the Wario Ware games?
Are they worth being played or they're just "lol randumb XD" crap?

I liked the porn but i never played the games

>>3460898
not retro, but I have a lot of memories with D.I.Y
honestly though the best is probably the first one
they're pretty fun

>>3448157
> Beats me why they haven't released VB titles on the VC, it's not like they're risking anything and I'm sure a lot of people want to play Wario Land

No return on investment. They would either need to remake the game, or create and emulator comparable with the device they want to sell it on. The remake would probably cost more than they would make, and there are not enough VB games to justify writing an emulator.

>>3460898
Wario Ware killed the franchise, fuck it. FUCK IT TO HELL.

>>3460914
no it didn't
it's like a completely separate thing
game and wario killed warioware though
fuck it to hell
wario land ain't dead yet

If ever a game series needs a come back, it's Wario.

>>3448124
But it is, good sir. Best in the series, or at least a contender for the title.

>>3461315
It's really not. I mean, it's better than Master of Disguise and maybe Wario Land 1, but it pales in comparison to 3, 4 and Shake It.

>>3461326
>pales in comparison to 3, 4 and Shake It
Only game that comes close to it is 4

>>3461329
This.

>>3461329
This guy knows what's up.

>>3461329
So you're saying that 4 is worse than 3 and Shake It? Explain

>>3461428
No, faggotron
VB is only slightly better than 4 which is better than all the other Wario games

>>3461432
But that's wrong you fucking retard

>>3461436
No it isn't.

VB > 4 > 1 > 2 > 3 >>>> Shake It

>>3461445
Diarrhea taste

>>3461445
ehh
2 > 3 > 1

>/v/ wants Wario to team up with Shantae, and a sequel to Shake It, of all the Wario games to choose from

God that board fucking sucks.

>>3463705
>wants Wario to team up with Shantae
sounds a bit fanfiction-y but he was in a starfy game so hey
what was even the context of them wanting that?

>>3463705
Sounds cool. I wish Nintendo and WayForward would do that collaboration. It would get a lot of sales.

>>3463736
Shantae games are kusoges and I'm glad WayForward will never touch Wario like how they shat on Contra and Double Dragon.

>>3463762
>kusoges
shut up you fucking weeb
gbc and risky are bit rough but pirate's curse is top notch

>>3463705
What was wrong with Shake It?

>>3463778
it's basically just 4 but with motion controls and a shitty submarine
i kinda like it tho

>>3463778
Tedious instead of clever level designs, the bullshit waggle gimmick, having to farm money to unlock new areas, Subwarine... not to mention it copied too many ideas from WL4, while each Wario before it offered interesting, novel concepts. The only thing Shake It had going for it was some great 2D animation, but that's pretty much it.

Give me a real Land V over Shake It 2 any day.

>>3463796
I think if there is a Land V, it's going to be another 4 rehash. Nintendo is extremely hesitant nowadays to do anything completely new or different with established series.

There is VB emulation?

>>3464901
What? Of course there is. Why wouldn't there be?

>>3445097
Doesn't turn on? Or will not display?

Try to determine the issue. It is a very common problem in Virtual Boy systems for the adhesive that holds the eyepieces together to begin to lose integrity, resulting in one blank screen or both going out.

There is a method of putting your system in the oven to repair this. I'm not kidding, ask the Assemblers. But determine where the fault in your VB is. The fix could be pretty simple.

>>3464901
You can use mednafen to make the graphics non-stereoscopic and b&w, so that it looks like you're playing a GB game.

>>3465428

it just doesn't turn on. I'm pretty sure it's the battery box. I need to get an AC adapter for it, and use it with the snes AC cable.

>>3444223
>MFW getting this game working with Nvidia 3D Vision
It would be more faithful if I had an Oculus/Rift, but damn it's close.

is wario jewish

>>3465840
No, he's just a greedy troll.
Close enough but not quite the same.

>>3465840
probably

>>3465840
No, he's a Cicilian mobster.

>>3460806
>>3460815
>not pirating or better yet stealing every Wario game in honor of his thieving ways

You have to actually not spit on Wario to post in this thread thank you.

>>3465916
I used savestates in VB Wario Land because that's what Wario would do.

I remember loving the shit outta Wario Land 4 on the GBA, but then I played 3 and didn't liked at all. Shake it on the Wii looked cool but my copy kept freezing on the first minutes

>>3465916
If no morals then....rape can be good and murder.

>>3445139
You are the worst kind of faggot.

>>3468387
um are you ok namefriend

>>3444223
>For me it's between 1, VB, and 4
Elder god taste my man

>>3468085
>played 3 and didn't liked at all.
WL3 is an acquired taste. You start out with most of your abilities unavailable, which means the start is pretty slow. However the day/night cycle, highly explorative level design, and Wario Golf all make for a fun time. Then there's the time attack mode where you have to collect all four notes in a stage with all your abilities already unlocked- that's even more fun than the main game in my opinion. Most people love it because it's the most "Metroidvania"-style Wario game.

>>3470121
Wario Land 3 is the most frustrating game where you can't die ever
I like it though