/vr/ - Retro Games

===NEWS===

[08-04] Urania, new Plutonia megawad
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/megawads/urania

[08-04] Anon maps update: Knee Deep Again >>3404968
http://www.mediafire.com/download/u1dec5iwynr6lm9/Knee_Deep_Again.wad

[08-04] THT Threnody (Ty Halderman Tribute project) released
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/thtthren

[08-02] Anon maps update: Earth >>3400398
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Doom64EX/index.php?showtopic=143

[07-30] Anon map WIP: Moonlit >>3397363
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n0lh8qppkkmq2x7/Moonlit.pk3

[07-29] Anon map release: HOUSE.wad >>3393371
https://www.dropbox.com/s/krtymf1c5am9saf/HOUSE.wad

[07-29] Vinesauce Doom Mapping Contest
https://twitter.com/joel_vinesauce/status/759106077120204801

[07-29] MM8BDM v5
http://cutstuff.net/mm8bdm/?p=249

[07-29] Anon mod release: Void Elemental >>3391175
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7lodgca3scj2ivz/Void.pk3

[07-25] Anon map release: Foundry >>3384954
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1NxOZlEf5aNOEx3YXh1TzEyeWs/view?usp=sharing

[07-22] Anon map release: Crunk Refinery >>3379784
http://basedhost.com/tmp/crunkrefinery.zip

[07-22] Andrew Hulshult Doom remake album
https://youtu.be/AGK1dr-Ql0w

[07-22] Interview with Romero on Quake
https://qexpo2016.com/tronyn-interviews-john-romero/

[07-22] Anon mod release: Spamcannon >>3377859
http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=spamcannon.pk3

[07-18] Anon mod release: Green Snek >>3371332
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nk49nzw50uje53s/Green%20Snek.pk3

[07-18] Anon mod release: Behr's 2016 Color Trends palette >>3369936
http://www14.zippyshare.com/v/DlMdqClj/file.html
http://www96.zippyshare.com/v/RzdAB0Pi/file.html

[07-17] Anon mod update: Smooth Doom Weapons Only >>3368842
http://www.mediafire.com/download/trk7yt4v9egtrnv/SmoothDoom-WeaponsOnly.pk3

[07-16] Anon map release: TerrorTomb >>3365964
http://www.mediafire.com/download/vucmubygevbuzfe/TerrorTomb.wad

===

TO SUBMIT NEWS REPLY/BACKLINK TO THIS POST.

>>3406745
>Our system thinks your post is spam. EDITION

HUUH

>>3406754

did someone say huuh? ;)

>>3406745
Where are all the usual links and stuff?

>>3406750
Oh? What've they banned now?

baby face demon pigs EDITION

>>3406736
What are deadwolves?

>>3406758
Probably Yadi.sk, I had to split a Yadi.sk URL into two lines so I could post an album.

>>3406757
H55H

>>3406761

prepare yourself for some of the best posts to ever grace doomworld:

https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post-hell/89068-itt-deadwolves-is-a-hilarious-pathetic-baby-man/

the mods should keep him

>>3406759
Render it 2 or 4 times larger and then scale it down with bilinear. Doom's sprites don't have aliased details since they're photographs of the real world, they just have aliased outlines.

>>3406745

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/GnWMDhg0

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1467/42/1467421002740.png
Quake: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1405/27/1405272990521.png
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Duke: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1403/19/1403195896088.jpg
Thief: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1456/09/1456095399293.jpg

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/
BT (2016-02-01): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13513277/idgames.torrent

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

IRC
irc.zandronum.com #vr (key in faq)

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
http://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

COMMUNITY PROJECT
Make a Boom-compatible E1-themed Ultimate Doom map.
Status: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/3019509

>>3406764
Godspeed, I hope this dude gets it out of his system.

>>3406762
bingo

>>3406762
Right. Would be interesting to know what caused it to go on the list. We will probably never know, though.

>>3406765
Like this?

>>3406765
wait no, the edges have transparency. How's this?

>>3406770
Well you can still post it, it just looks bad.

Doom download: https://yadi..
sk/d/469ydBaLndVCJ

>>3406773
Stereotypes about Russian file sharing websites and viruses maybe? It's profiling and it's illegal, the Russian people are our friends.

>>3406775
>>3406776
It's better but you could go further. Try rendering 4x and scaling that down bilinear so the shadow on the bottom right of the neck smooths out more.

If you have Photoshop, make an action for taking the selected layer and using Layer -> Layer Mask -> From Transparency and then select the Mask and go to Image -> Adjustments -> Threshold so you can quickly get hard edges.

Also, turn on Ambient Occlusion set to Multiply and either a Hemi to light up the shadows a tiny tiny bit or use Environment Lighting set very low.

It's useless as shit but God I want to make an environment texture of the original lazy susan room the models were shot in.

>>3406779
both of those were 4x size rendering and scaling down as you suggested. The shadow is just from the lighting.

>>3406779
No that's too vague. I mean the link was fine when the last thread was posted on the third. Now it's the fifth and it's not. So something must have happened in the past two days. But I doubt we'll ever know exactly what.

What do you have in your Heretic autoload?

>>3406789
aaaaaaaaaaaabsolutely nothing

>>3406785
I should go back to the sculpt I feel like, because I realize I forgot to give baby here some pecs.

>>3406785
That's weird, it looks smoother in Photoshop CC 2015 and doesn't have the few very black pixels on the shadow edge. Oh well, can draw over it. The lighting should be centred or nearly centred as well, right above the camera.

Check out the shadows on Doom's monster sprites, there's rarely big shadows. Everything is lit to some extent / nothing is black except for nooks and crannies, which ambient occlusion will make dark.

>>3406795
*rarely big black shadows

And to elaborate, it's because they're all photographed on a reflective white surface so the light bounces up onto the models so there's light from the lamp by the camera and some light coming up from underneath it and a bit of light off the white wall behind it, except for some Archvile frames that were photographed without the wall behind it, presumably so the light from its magic fire attack looks more directional.

>>3406795
Thanks for all the advice.

What do you guys think about the hell on earth starter pack maps?
I liked them
Bosses were rubbish though

Anyone watching the QW tournament at Quakecon?

>>3406809
starts of pretty cool, sans the freedoom maps, gets worse and worse until it becomse a slog
> map consists of one open area
> traips back and forth thrice with monsters spawning in everytime you get to one end

>>3406809
enjoyable enough. felt compelled to explore until 100%. but no desire to replay afterwards. agreed re bosses, basically skipped them.

>>3406826
not me, sorry. not really interested.

>>3406826
Where is it?

>>3406846
at Quakecon

>>3406846
Currently happening at Quakecon, twitch tv/quakecon

quake champions gameplay.

>>3406809
Many of them are good. Some are rubbish.

I liked most of the tech levels, but remember one or two map flow issues. But generally speaking, it was a highly enjoyable tribute to KDitD even though it doesn't quite gel with the other two episodes.

The city levels are all fairly immersive and are very technically impressive, but the "Downtown" remake drags on and bogs down the whole thing; map flow in Warzone isn't great either and the jumping in the last city level is incredibly ahit if you miss a jump. It's levels are hit or miss.

The Hell levels have amazing atmosphere and are all generally good, but what the fuck was Mark thinking with that fucking jump section at the end of House of Hell Nobles?! Fucking baffling design choice there, grade A retardation. Cathedral was also a bit forgettable, but the rest of the Hell levels are pretty strong showings.

>>3406847
Thanks, Captain Obvious.
>>3406848
Right, thanks. It's just some interview atm?

>>3406789
ojsclatchfords quake guns mod

still plays like boring shit

>>3406851
He seems to like his platforming sequences. They feature in many of the maps.

>>3406809
I quite liked the bosses. Would have liked to see more Belphegors in the wad. Guardian was OK for what he was. Cyberlord was a bit shock at first and then became tedious - easily the weakest gameplay of the bosses. Final boss was decent, more enjoyable than an Icon, but I felt a lot of attacks were pretty bullshit and it could do with a revalance(the AoE on the fireballs is insane, how the fuck do I dodge it without cheesing the fight at the bottom of the blood pool?). I did feel pretty badass after killing it though.

>>3406809

It's rushed, and it shows.
It's overall quite mediocre, only notable for being a full 32-map ZDoom megawad that doesn't have custom monsters (outside the bosses) or weapons (outside the turrets).

>>3406809
Mark's a better mapper than he is a coder.

Even then, meeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

>>3406860
I only really remember getting frustrated with map 18 (and I didn't even miss a jump) and That Bit at the end of one of the hell levels (JFC Mark it kills all the flow what were you thinking). Was there jumping in the Downtown level? Fuck that level.

I don't mind a bit of low risk leaps from one ledge to another, but they were espiecally obnoxious in those levels.

>>3406865
>no custom monsters
>zombie tanks, German attack dogs, and friendly NPCs

>>3406870
>German attack dogs, and friendly NPCs
neither of those are custom

zdoom has a lot of built-in monsters

>>3406870

I forgot about the zombie tanks, but MBFHelper and the NPCs are already-defined ZDoom actors. They're not actually custom.

>>3406789
what kind of gameplay mod would be cool for heretic? some kind of leveling up system?

some kind of monster fuckery to make them smarter, more difficult to deal with?

a class system a la Hexen?

some kind of RPG / NPC shit with quests and dialogue?

anyone else watching the stream?

it's not really that brown, i was just having a laugh.

>>3406886
oh I didn't know you changed it

:^)

>>3406886
It's even more brown than I remember.>>3406885

>>3406852
Prob a post game interview if I had to guess

>>3406849
wait, did they actually show gameplay

>>3406809
Can I add a question to yours?
is it enjoyable with other mods than edgy doom or vanilla? The reason I never played it was because it is intented to be played with BR00T4L

>>3406885
Yes
I'm rooting for Team Rune just because I want to see someone that isn't Milton win something for once

I know there's no proper sourceport for Blood but what about Shadow Warrior? Is Shadow Warrior Redux on Steam actually good?

>>3406918
Shadow Warrior original files + Dosbox

works fine, just like Blood run the same way

Wouldn't be surprised if the steam version runs in dosbox too

>>3406764
>deadwolves said:
>Several months ago I was kind of fired.

>deadwolves said:
>He has also beaten cancer.

>You're starting to repeat yourself.

What wads/mods let me play as a beep boop robo?

Hello.

>>3406946
Unf

>>3406943
there's that mech one.

>>3406946
HEH HEEEEEH

>>3406764
>>3406769
what is it about doomworld that pulls out the worst autists from the depths of the internet?

>>3406953
4chan is much worse

>>3406956
there's a certain difference between posting here and involving having to, you know, register in a forum

as in, entering your e-mail and shit which makes you go through the extra effort of providing actual data just to shitpost, as in this case

>>3406956

naw, with 4chan you have the anonymity. But on forums, you have a fucking name, you can see a personal track record of a person's shitty track record.

>>3406943
Ghouls vs Humans :^)

>>3406874
>>3406870
Well, shit, I just opened up Doombuilder in zdoom format and the extra options are incredible. The last time I had a serious go at mapping it was still the 90s.

Is there anywhere I can go to learn what all the new buttons do? An illustrated guide to show what all these things do would really help.

>>3406960
>>3406962
nevertheless, there are far more crazy people here than on any web forum.

>>3406960
>>3406962

>>3406969
b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but i-i-it's okay w-w-w-w-when 4chan does it a-a-a-am i right????

>>3406956
it is definitely but not if people stick to the topic. that's also why some people hate it when others "blog". chances are it gets offtopic and ends in boring talk about life and shit.

>>3406928

The Steam version has DOSBox, but also offers a "Redux" engine.
I have no idea if it's any better than just playing it through DOSBox or not.

>>3406972
you're a dumbass.

>>3406969

>/sp/

NOT EVEN ONCE

>>3406969
alright I don't care, I have to know. what the fuck is UTV?

i just think any established web forum for a niche interest but with an off-topic section is going to have people like that, it's not reasonable to single out doomworld. and large populated forums with no specific topic probably have more mad people -- look at Something Awful.

>>3406989
moral of the story: never look in off-topic sections

>>3406989
we're just looking in the wrong places

>>3406984
A tripfriend

>>3406984
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/the-philmarilion

>>3406992
>>3406993
>no mention of the shitville that is the doom 2016 general subforum at any point whatsoever
>no mention of massivefanofdick getting losered for being a sperg monkey literally today

Spent most of the day working on a fur brush that won't be visible in sprite form, but will make for nice portfolio renders I hope...
Does this look evil enough so far for a final boss?

Also, what the fuck captcha.

>>3407029
>'select all images with street signs'
>picture is the back of a fucking truck
>literally the back of an empty load truck on a road, nothing else visible

>>3406764
>guy is talking about his terrible job
>start agreeing with him
>get to the halfway point

>>3407031
The street sign ones are wrong 70% of the time it seems. Get your shit together google.

>>3407029
damn thats looking evil as fuck... great work

I hope you have some hybrid bird/goat sounds to go with it!

>>3406764
>deadwolves had, had it.

>>3407041
I gotta see a man about a goat-bird.

>>3407031
i suggest to use the legacy captcha

>>3407058
wasn't here though

>>3407058
Legacy captcha stopped working for me one day, so I went back. I just never got around to switching it back.

Welp, procrastinated all day. Maybe I'll pull all-nighter.

>>3407113
there's no rush anon... take your time

>>3407058
Is is just me, or does the legacy captcha gets harder the more you use it?
A few months ago I started using the legacy captcha again because fuck the captcha with pictures. In the beginning it only asked me to type in street numbers, usually no more tan 4 digits in length. Nowadays it's asking me to write these long words in Italian and French.

>>3407134
yeah i get the spanish etc words as well, but it doesn't seem all that harder

>>3407134
I've found usually you can type just a few letters from the word (and sometimes letters that aren't even in the word, like 'cock') and it'll accept it.

Like back when we had the two-word captchas and everyone would put 'nigger' for the nonsense one.

Reposting my Doombuilder question:

You know how when you're left clicking on things, eg linedefs, and each new linedef you click is added to the "currently selected" group
is there a way to make it not do that? In most programs, you'd have to hold shift to add additional things to "currently selected" but Doombuilder wants to be different, and it slows things down
Or is this one of those things I'm just going to have to deal with

Preferences -> Editing -> Options -> Additive selecting without holding shift

>>3407186
if you want to select a large group, hold down shift and drag a box.

If you just want to move the currently selected points, right click on one of them, and you can drag them all around. right clicking will let you move shit without selecting or deselecting anything.

"c" is the deselect key too, I find myself constantly pressing it after everything I do out of habit, so I dont accidentally move things i dont want to

>>3407118
Yeah, I'll just head to sleep. Finish it tomorrow, since this is the exit-section I am finishing up.

I also should probably remove the fade-out from the midi so it would loop better...

>>3406764
>that one faggot who gets mad at anime .gifs

>>3407032
I never saw a point which seemed agreeable, he strikes me as a fucking meathead cunt with serious issues with ego and anger.

>>3407191
You legend, that's exactly what I'm looking for.
Buuuut, it seems acts like shift is always being held, regardless of that option being ticked.

>>3407202
That (the "c" thing) is something I didn't know. You are also a legend.

>>3407213
y'know, fun fact

I just tested it and it only seems to affect box selections - clicking on lines and things is *always* additive

that's kinda dumb, but at least you can just hit C

>>3406969
Man, this just makes me feel so fucking thankful for all the help I got growing up as an autistic to not be as much of a fucking creep as this guy.

inb4 >le autism xddd

>>3407005
Link that then.

>>3406745
>Let's make proper OPs since now on together!

>>3406870
No custom monsters in the sense of dumping every single thing in Realm667 like every other zdoom map has the habit of doing. Also tanks counts as sub-bosses.

>>3406789
WideID.wad. it makes the status bar widescreen friendly

>>3407340
I can't seem to find that on /idgames. Link please?

Don't know if it was the latest version of GZDoom or the latest D4D, but I've noticed quite a performance drop, settings on gibblets seem to be the same, though.

Anyone else experienced the same?

>>3407387
I think the chainsaw seems less grabby, but I can't tell if I'm crazy or not. I also notice that it broke some ACS, so things like Ultimate HUD no longer function correctly.

Is there a character limit on custom sound files when it comes to SNDINFO?

It seems like a filename that's too long stops them from working

>>3407417
yeah all lumps have a limit of 8 characters unless you're using PK3 instead of WAD and reference the full path to the sound in quotation marks like "sounds/superlongfilename.ogg"

>>3407419
you don't need the quotes in and info

"weapons/sshotf sounds/newssgsound.ogg" is perfectly legitimate

>>3407419
>>3407423

thanks for the help

in return, here's the alpha build of the text-to-speeh wad i'm working on

https://www.dropbox.com/s/a0spu00qvoxe8g7/TEX2SPEK.pk3?dl=0

>tfw your map was just reviewed on Doomworld
>tfw you want to log in, make some maps, and post them
>tfw you forgot your password to your doom email and doomworld account due to not using it often
Suicide.

>>3407441
Downloaded it on a whim. wtf am i supposed to do with it.

>>3407527
load it like any other wad or pk3?

>>3407532
Then what? What's it do?

>>3407534
run it and find out, jesus

>>3407535
I did. It didn't seem to do much.

Alright. Did it again as I was typing that. It's called tex2spek so i expected it to convert text to speech. which it does, but not in a useful way. Should be chat text, or something. not calling out monster states.
Anyway. Is neat. Just needs application.

>>3407541
I decided to make this mod after watching >>3399001 and reading this comment on that post: >>3399225

even if it's uninteresting to most people at the least i'll get the mechanincs of SNDINFO and inheritance hammered into my brain

>find out that i at some point bought the master levels of doom 2 on steam for some reason
>"eh may as well try them out"
>launch
>get this
>first one doesn't work
>second one looks like this and keeps stuttering
oh

>>3407552
Can you make it for chat messages? I'd run that on a server. Seems fun.

>>3407562
>Can you make it for chat messages?

Fuck no

Not even sure if it's even possible to institute an actual text-to-speech program into doom in the form of a wad, and even if it is that's far, far outside of my abilities

>>3407212

he's a diagnosed psychopath that's been institutionalized once.

>>3406965
Zdoom wiki is a good start. I was also advised to try simpler map formats before diving into zDoom mapping.

http://zdoom.org/wiki/Tutorials

>only on map 18 of Evilution
God damn. Is Plutonia harder than this or about the same difficulty? If I spent as much time on Doom 1 and 2 as I have on this I'd have beaten both games twice by now.

>>3407632

>Is Plutonia harder than this or the same difficulty?

oh, you who are so naive

i cast pity upon thee

>>3407632
It's very much harder.

>>3407632
on map02 of plutonia, you will hit a switch

you will be lowered into a pit of chaingunners and shotgunners with the only cover holding a baron behind it

and you will die

>>3407637
>>3407659
Surely it can't be that ba-
>>3407663
I can feel every fiber of my being burning with preemptive fear.

I may be talking to no one here but...
Does anyone know about MIDI and Windows 10?
I seem to have this issue where playing MIDIs through ports like Chocolate Doom become impossible.
Would anyone know a good type of reference or reason why this would happen?
Virtualmidi only really puts a bandage on the issue

>>3407686
For one, you're using Windows 10.

>>3407557
You'd enjoy Maximum Doom.

>>3407691
Good meme.

>>3407557
So are all the master levels just MAP01 replacements? I don't think a lot of people will like hearing Entryway over and over

Doom 2016 is half off on Steam. Should I buy it? What do you guys think about it?

>>3407750
It's fun. Get it.

>>3407750
I played through it 6 times before being tired of it.

>>3407751
>>3407752
Sweet, gonna go DL it now, thanks guys

>>3407753
Have fun, anon.

>tfw your PC can't handle Doom 2016
I hope Doom 4 Doom is good...

>>3407757
It's a reasonable facsimile.

Why even bother with the patch that fixes map 31 of TNT when you can skip the whole level by running to one of the big chairs where a switch would pop up and press the use button?

>>3407702

>>3407750
>really want to buy it
>been boycotting denuvo games
A little sale wont break me

>>3407772
How does that even happen? Windows 10 keeps reminding you about scheduled updates a few hours ahead of time and lets you reschedule them indefinitely.
It also has a function that automatically reschedules all updates to nighttime so it won't interrupt anything you're doing.
And I don't think it just abruptly turns your PC off like that, though I'm not sure.
Still, good meme.

>>3407786
>so it won't interrupt anything you're doing.
Clearly it has failed in that regard.

>>3407790
It's turned off by default.
I'm not surprised a retarded CS:GO Twitch streamer who's ignoring system notifications didn't even bother checking the settings.

>>3407793
I don't know why you're still defending Windows 10 after seeing that, guess some people really will defend everything no matter how ridiculous.

>>3407794
Never happened to me, and the webm only happened because of the user's computer illiteracy. By that logic, older Windows versions are even worse because their update popups are much more intrusive and annoying, and Linux is literally unusable.

Why is Combined Arms so dog shit? Let me tell you
>plasma replacement is both OP and uses the same ammo as SSG replacement which makes SSG obsolete
>why the fuck is that nailgun thing even grabbing plasma ammo from the enemies?
>why rip off Eternal Damnation reload animation?
>why rip off P2 hit animation? It really makes me wish I was playing those games instead
>Hexen weapons don't fit if I wanted to play Hexen I wouldn't play fucking Doom you twat
>the most interesting weapon - brick tome can hardly be found in the game because it replaces invisibility powerup no one puts in wads anyway

>>3407827
>Why is Combined Arms
the what now?

>>3407838
It's a Doom weapon mod. It's kinda bad.

>>3407768
maybe you want to visit the rest of the level for a change. in these times, i type TNTKEYYC when i reach the place it is meant to be found.

i believe sufficiently recent zdoom will fix the thing flags so the key appears normally, by the magic of compatibility.txt

>>3407838
a weapon mod made by a /vr/ regular. there is this one guy who has (or is faking) an obsessive hatred for it.

>>3406953
Its the most recognisable forum in the entire Doom Community. Its been around for nearly two decades, and has housed the majority of the community's important figures throughout such lifespan.

Hello everyone my name is George Romero and Combined Arms is a disgrace, it makes me regret Doom exists.

>>3407768
Some people prefer playing the map as intended. And it makes UV Max possible.

City map for Doom64 is well underway.

I have lots of multi level buildings - all without using 3D floors (not possible in Doom64EX).
Its kind a magic when you know walking up the stairwell is building the upstairs area geometry and details, and copying the appropriate lighting and textures. Pretty easy to do with the macros, just takes a bit of time for each building.

>>3407886
That's a city? If you told me i's just another base I would believe you. You fucking suck man.

>>3407891
suck my peepee :^)

>>3407886
>City map for Doom64 is well underway.
it looks well underwater! i mean, because of the lighting.

>>3407886
Makes me think more that it's an outside military base more then a city.

>>3407907
yep its the military / storage area. The civilan district is next in line to be built - complete with library!

>>3407901
If Doom64EX had decorate support I would make a sub game with spooky giant angler fish enemies so fast. But yeah starlight night-time lighting. I suppose I could desaturate the teal a bit, but feels pretty good in-game

>>3407917
You suck cock who the fuck even plays 64 anyway? LMAO I'm LMAOing at your life make a city map for D2 instead.

>>3407917
Well I guess I'm looking forward to see what you come up with. Good luck anon.

>>3407886

Nice to see someone working on D64 maps, even if it's just one person. Not enough maps for that as it stands right now, at least custom ones.

>>3407929
probably because Doom 64 is a slow ass piece of turd and only redeeming factor it had was spooky atmosphere, something that can be done with regular doom mods today.

>>3407920
>who the fuck even plays 64 anyway
not many people. Kinda why its intriguing to map for. There's been many many doom 2 city maps, but the only Doom64 cities I can think of are hell-theme cities. beta64 has a pretty good one.

>>3407927
cheers, just gonna take time. its the 5th map for the Earth project so I'm starting to get the hang of mapping for it, can start pushing some boundaries like the multi-level buildings which is fun

>>3407934

why are you even giving him attention

>>3407931
Doom64 can be just as fast-paced as regular doom, its all in the map design. And provided you're playing with mouse and keyboard and not an actual N64 controller.

>>3407886
>>3407934

Interesting, keep it going anon

>>3407931

I believe you got 64 confused with 3, an honest mistake, they're both super dark. 64 is actually good though.

So...how do you play 64? ON emulator or use some TC mod?

>>3407949

Doom 64 EX.

>>3407951
This. It turns a Doom 64 rom file into a wad file and runs it in it's own Doom source port. Best way to play it.

>>3407949
yep get Doom64EX and find a copy of the Doom64 rom.

https://doom64ex.wordpress.com/downloads/


EX comes with a rom-extractor that turns the rom into a wad file. Doom64EX runs wad files like normal doom. There's a few decent custom mapsets here:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Doom64EX/index.php?showforum=3
beta64 in particular is great.

Why PSX shits all over PC version?

>>3407964
It really doesn't. It just has a different overall atmosphere compared to the PC version that some like more.

>>3407967
*That everyone with a taste likes more.


also I liked one PSX exclusive map

>>3407827
>Why is Combined Arms so dog shit?

Because I made the mistake of trying to take weapon ideas from you people

>>3407964
>console controller on an fps
ew.

Anyone made any maps that work well with Doom 4 Doom? Maybe some remade maps straight from Doom 4?
I just tried the mod, but I feel like the vanilla Doom maps really hinder the gameplay.

>>3407981
BTSX 1 and 2.

>>3407975
>victim blaming

we were subjected to the torture of your shit mod and now you shift the blame like a nigger who blames the society for his own spergout

>>3407975
so you're saying that you released it even though you knew it was shit?

>>3407986

Gotta finish what I start anon.

>>3407757
My Pc can't handle the newest versions of Gzdoom in Opengl.
Thank god for software mode.

>>3407993

Sometimes, it's better to cut your losses man.

>>3407934
Valiant for D2 has some city levels.
Not surprising, since you'd need a city to house the ridiculous amount of enemies, though.

>>3407975
I kinda liked it.
Played a few wads with it.

>>3407998

Cus that worked so well for Marty and Mike. Right?

>>3407964
PSX and 64's darker atmosphere doesn't really work for me, because the gameplay is still essentially power fantasy run n gun action. Its just too jarring for me.

>>3407964

>play psx

>all the sweet metal midis are replaced by atmospheric stuff(that isn't inherently bad just not fitting of the levels)

>90% of secrets are super fucking obvious now

>sound effects changed, hard to tell which enemy is which

>doom 2 enemies in doom 1

It's not bad, just not "shitting all over pc".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iemBglj1Rs

>>3408020
Sounds a bit gassy.

>>3407964
It's just ok.

The music is boring, the use of colored lighting is nice, but its often very dark. Framerate isn't amazing.

I appreciate that it tries to do something a bit different, given how many standard ports there are, but overall it's eh.

>>3407978
It can be done well enough, it just typically wasn't until the later 2000's

>>3408025
>it just typically wasn't until the later 2000's
Examples?

Catanon from Yesterthread here. Thanks for some of the support. I haven't opened gzDoombuilder in about 5 months, but I'm gonna try to finish this megawad set sooner or later. I realize I totally butchered proportions, but there has to be walking room inside this thing.

>>3408026
Metroid Prime perhaps? It locked on for you so you didn't have to bother with analogue sticks to target someone.

Halo's alright as well.

Of course, if it had a mouse for aiming and turning it'd be even better but it's not complete shit.

>>3408050
Brutalism Doom?

>>3408026
I think that console FPS controls these days are ok generally (though I don't play all of them, I don't really touch any of the modern military shooters).

Like, there's bad ones (one of Duke Nukem Forever's many sins), but I felt that say, Far Cry 3 had pretty good controls (maneuvers and actions are easy to learn and function well), New Vegas has passable controls (the engine is what it is), but you can rebind shit however you want, which not all games allow these days.
Wolf 09' controlled pretty alright.

Doom Classic Complete, in my opinion, has better controls than most of the console ports from the 90's (though it has some other flaws).

>>3408057
>Metroid Prime perhaps?
That's early 2000s though.

>>3408057
>if it had a mouse for aiming and turning
Not for Metroid Prime, but these things exist for PC, PS3 and 360 (don't know if they've made them for new ones), you can have the analog stick for movement, then you pair with a compatible mouse (a special mouse would be used for the console ones, but for PC you can use any mouse you want).

I think analog movement is smoother and more precise than WASD keys, as well as more gradual (allowing for fine motion), but analog sticks for actual aiming is only passable at best, a mouse is always better.

>>3408068
And it'll often circumvent shitty smoothing people put on the WASD movement. I tried a 360 controller and a mouse to play a projectile-heavy controller and I was dodging like mad because I no longer had a split-second start-up to every movement. I was kissing the bullets.

>>3408059

Title is Brutalist, so yeah. It's basically a game of can I make 30-ish maps using reference images from places like FuckYeahBrutalism and ArchitectureOfDoom. Slap in some eccentric secret levels and music and it'll be done. Aiming for 100% compatibility with any weapon/monster mods people want so I can avoid project bloat.

Let's have a moment of silence for those who don't know better and will buy Doom on steam because it's on sale

>>3408071
Yeah, movement becomes incredibly smooth and efficient once you get used to it.

It's a shame only one company makes these one-handed analog things (to my knowledge), because I think the concept is 10/10, but the product execution is just 6/10, the shoulder buttons are poor, and the DPad is awful (really, one of the worst I've ever used, thank good I don't use it for movement).

But the analog stick is genuinely really good (one of the best thumbsticks I've ever used), and with it being wireless, as well as my mouse, I can really recline in a comfortable position.

>play japanese community project
>few stages in
>suddenly Touhou music
yeah it's Japan alright.

>play Combined Arms
>decide drinking bleach will be more fun

>>3407794
because he is working for microsoft ;^)

>>3408118
damn microsoft employees ruining my doom thread experience baka

Combined Arms more like Combined Shit.

>>3408072
you were posting these on FP but i don't remember who it was
didn't you also make that avalanche thing?

>>3408168

Yeah, requested a ban there since I was wasting a ton of summer time on other sections. Got a lot of shit done and taught myself some neat shit like stock investments (and did really good until I was drinking with friends and made a shoddy investment), but now I'm in a one month grace period until next semester with fuckall to do.

Avalanche thing got scrapped due to a gzDoom 3D-Floor related bug or something of that nature. You get a visual hole eating the ground and unless you solve the problem, it just changes places around the map arbitrarily if you move anything else. I believe those were caused by stuck, overlapping vertexes or linedefs.

Avalanche was a scrapped part to another large-but-abandoned project where I finished about one map and one partial map. I was gonna have lava plumes and boss fights and all sorts of immense project bloat that was leading to absurdity, which about capped off on a conveyor belt moving a Mancubus around in a giant circle so I could simulate rain/wind via health bonuses. Eugh.

If you're curious I dropped a shitpost over on Doomworld to catalog all the stuff I did in once place, but you guys aren't missing much I guess. I'm a little proud of Juke Joint and Irritating Lindef, but they're not anything spectacular.
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/86099-various-old-projects/

Gonna try to finish one map every 2-3 days, maybe a week at worst. I'd like to at least finish this before I wrap up college next year.

>>3408072
will you remake the irs & j edgar hoover bldgs?

>>3408191

Why not? I have to do Habitat 67 at some point though and that's going to take a very long, very painful time.

>D4D Ultra-Nightmare has shotgun guys killing you in one hit even at full health
woooow.

>>3408214
Well it's realistic.

>>3408215
You seem to be the kind of guy who believes one shot to the chest from 9mm would legit kill someone on the spot.

>>>/wsg/1200205
kek

>>3408215

>doom

>realistic

>>3408220
>Shotgun
>9mm
wat

and yeah a 9mm shot in the chest could kill you in the right place, especially if it was hollow point

>>3408231
Yeah good things cops disagree.

>>3408231

>>3408241
let me shoot you in the chest with a hollow point 9mm pistol at close range then friendo. Dont worry, you wont die, according to yourself.

also no medical attention allowed.

>>3408251
>No medical attention allowed
Well now you're not only mad, you're changing the hypothetical situation to better suit your own story.

Also anon wasn't saying a 9mm to the chest won't kill you, anon's saying cops kill people.

>>3408251
Just like in my Die Hard amirite? xD

Some people ITT need a hot meal, a cuddle and a nap.

There are some Grumpy Gusses herein, is what I am implying.

>>3408258
Just some angry /k/ommandos. It's okay.

>>3408256
9mm can still kill you anon. I'm just specifying that you can't get rushed to hospital and possibly saved. you bleed out and die. 9mm may not be as damaging as a good hollow point .308, but it can and will still kill someone with 1 shot. in the head, heart, liver, arteries etc.

>>3408256
Actually I was refering to police reports stating suspects survived multiple gunshots and the Brazilian videos from failed robberies where the robbers still move after even three shots. So one shot at close range my ass the fucker is still around after three blasts at close range.

what sort of a faggot actually cares about guns

>>3408268

Let's talk about melee weapons instead.

Quake's axe sucks.

>>3408274
It's nice for using on walls to find secrets without wasting ammo at least.

>>3408267
Deaths aren't always instant and adrenaline is amazing. They could be bleeding internally while running away, they could be septic, there's a lot of ways to die while still being mobile on adrenaline.

There's a lot of variables at play when it comes to gunshots, like arteries, organs, bones, tendons, and if someone can get medical attention.

One gunshot to the leg can put a man in the ground, nine gunshots to his body and he gets on stage.

>>3408276

So the axe is the equivalent of the use key.

>>3408284
Basically yeah.

>>3408274
its better than dooms fist.

it makes a cool 'clink' sound when you hit a wall

>>3408274
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rune_(video_game)
anybody here played this?

>>3408274
Why the fuck does he even have an axe to begin with? Yeah I know it was supposed to be an RPG at first but they could scrap that one like they scrapped everything else and just give us a big knife instead.

Also the proportions of the axe hurt my autism the fucking thing weights more than his armor + shotgun.

>>3408283
You know why he survived 9 shots? Because he got hit by 9mm that's why if he got hit by a proper caliber after second one he would be dead.

>>3408293

It was supposed to be a hammer, then it became a boring generic gunbutt melee, and then the axe we know today.

It's a shame because I like the simple design of the axe but holy shit it's so unsatisfying to use and it's weaker than Doom's fist. Fuck.

If I was in the same situation as Doomguy I would kill myself.

>>3408298

You'd just spawn in hell and then get beaten up and bullied by the demons.

>>3408298
Well it helps he isn't a scared lil' babby like you are it seems.

Where are the demon scientists who created things like the mancubus, cyberdemons and spiderdemons?

>>3408304
t. internet warrior who shits himself when he sees a spider

>>3408292
Yeah, it's alright.

It's on GOG and Steam, but it's a modified "classic" version that cuts out/rebalances several levels (which can still be played separately, apparently?) and adds some monsters from the PS2 version. Kinda weird, but okay.

>>3408306
the spiders in my shack eat cockroaches so I like them.

>>3408306

To be fair I'm pretty sure even the demons would freak out over a spider

>>3408305
They always seemed like UAC creations to me.

Use teleporters to obtain specimens from other dimension / hell, combine them with machinery to create some kind of army of cyber monsters.

Its just not something hell spawn would do, they'd just use magic sacrifices and shit to do their bidding. They dont need human technology.

>>3408220
Has happened, hell, people have dropped like a sack of potatoes from a .22LR to the chest.

Also there's so many variables to that statement it means nothing.

>>3408294
I bet you're a .45 fag

Why are people butthurt Brutal Doom portrays Doomguy as a sperg if the comic which ID is responsible for started it to begin with? Also in the ''lore'' it says he chimped out at his superior so it's not like he is a collected individual to begin with.

>>3408327
Source would be nice.

>>3408320
>They always seemed like UAC creations to me.
But they aren't, they already existed by the time humans even met demons for the first time.
>Its just not something hell spawn would do
Clearly not the case with these hell spawn, you're thinking too much of the bible.

Ever heard about the scrapped Doom 2 monster called Molester? When you're low on HP he would take off your pants and fuck you in the ass with his demon cock.

Finally kinda done.
Kinda.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1NxOZlEf5aNTGNlYWtTdEN5ZDQ/view?usp=sharing

Supposed to be third map in the mapset, sorta easyish. It is still very wonky, as I kinda had to hurry ( gotta do bunch of business ), so I am leaving the test-version here.

I live and breathe critique. Report bugs and etc. ( there might be a slimetrail or two around ).

Note on the map; with exception of chainsaw and BFG, there are all weapons in the map. Just go look for them, if you try to go just linearly you will probably get your ass kicked / have to do it pretty carefully.

>>3408267
People have taken full loads of buckshot to the face and gotten up to shoot back after they thought they were dead, people have taken four tries with a shotgun to the face to kill themselves, that doesn't mean buckshot isn't good at killing.

Not everyone you shoot is gonna be fucking Michael Platt

>>3408331
Personal anecdote on that one.

Again, there's so many variables involved into the statement of "dropping from one 9mm to the chest" that it's a non-sequitur;
What ammunition is it?
How long is the barrel?
What's the distance?
What angle does it enter?
Who is getting shot?
What are they wearing?
Where in the chest are they getting shot?
Is it a surprise, or do they know it's gonna happen, do they have the opportunity to fight back and get adrenaline flowing or do they not?
Are they on drugs?
What's their health like?

>>3408345
Yeah personal anecdote kill yourself faggot but don't use 9mm to do it because it won't get the job done.

>>3408305
>>3408320
>>3408334
http://www.classicdoom.com/doominfo.htm

>So far they have been able to open gateways between Phobos and Deimos, throwing a few gadgets into one and watching them come out the other. Recently however, the Gateways have grown dangerously unstable. Military "volunteers" entering them have either disappeared or been stricken with a strange form of insanity--babbling vulgarities, bludgeoning anything that breathes, and finally suffering an untimely death of full-body explosion. Matching heads with torsos to send home to the folks became a full-time job. Latest military reports state that the research is suffering a small set-back, but everything is under control.

UAC just chucked the technology into Hell through the portals and Hell abducted some volunteers. Also, Hell corrupted the Mars bases and also Earth so there's likely some sort of It's Just Magic Bro explanation as well.

>>3408340
>Report bugs and etc
Well for one, you've got rectangles around all your dudes there.

they all spawn from the source fully formed and equipped with technology

>>3408358
Those are clearly clones, the icon of sin can't spawn Cyberdemons, Spider Masterminds or Archviles either.

>>3408362
i expect that's for game balance reasons. and spiderdemons wouldn't fit on the ledges

>>3408362
>the icon of sin can't spawn cyberdemons, spider masterminds ,nazi soldiers and zombies.
ftfy

>>3408362
Only Cyberdemons and Masterminds. Archviles can be spawned.

>>3408364
>i expect that's for game balance reasons
Well duh. That's obviously the reason they made it so, but at the same time it affects the lore.

>>3408358
>Flashing cracked red lava ceiling
>Cascading slimefall walls
>Pulsing brown water

What was Sandy thinking? Was he just trying to make the room look "alive" by randomly using some of the animated textures the game has?

>>3407967
it's DKG again, don't bother responding to him

>>3407718

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qURei6svd90

>>3407718
Not all of them. A few of them take other slots.

Post the last screenshot you took.

>>3408402
>demonsteele

kill yourself weeb

also what map?

>>3408402

>>3408378
idk it's afterbirth or something, it's a birthing pit, it's slimy, it's sandy petersen

>>3408402

>>3408402

>>3408340

CC4Tex wasn't included, but I keep it on hand.

Was a major case of "fuck this shit let them infight" until I stumbled on the SSG/RL. That was likely just my bad luck.

Only other nitpicks are super minor. The final (empty?) room before you exit with the [X] on the ground was kind of weird to walk into something so plain/fullbright-ish after the rest of the map.

And on the outdoor areas, these shadowcasts make the back wall totally black which somehow triggers me since they don't make sense unless there were lights on the floor. But I'm a detail autist. You could add micro-thin 1-unit-thick walls on the backwalls and use ALLBLACK since you have CC4Tex; but its' all way overkill so ignore all this.

>>3408402

>>3408068
I've tried playing Doom with a 360 controller in my left hand for movement and a mouse in the right and it's just too fucking weird.

>>3408402

>>3408402

>>3408402

>>3408402
FUCK ALL STRIFEGUYS & ITALIAN NAMES IN THE CAPTCHA

>>3408402

>>3408402
I love the re-sheathing animation.

>>3408402

>>3408456
those action figures are wonderful

>>3408402

>>3408402

>>3408456
I'd pay money for those.

>>3408465
what is this map?

>>3408467

I can't get over her soda powered cannons.

>>3408473

Soda is a very powerful energy source.

>>3408456
Reminds me how I'll never be able to afford a Doom man action figure

>triggered

>>3408410
As a Challenge, someone should go over and detail all of the Sandy Peterson Doom II maps and try and fix all the low effort designs.

>>3408465
I'm digging those Fireblu windows.

jokes on microsoft, i pirated win7 and it won't update no matter what

>>3408479

to be fair, it won't be released until next year, so you can actually start saving money to buy one

>>3408515

>>3408515
>generate shit megawad on purpose
>first room of the first map looks like this

Oblige understands me

I gotta stop ripping weird shit from JPEGs and throwing it in these maps.

>>3408456

>>3408402
Why is she taking a selfie in the men's bathroom?

>>3408589

It's every girl's dream to enter the men's room, just like it's every man's dream to enter the women's room.

>>3408589

It's not like there's anyone left alive to tell her to go into the lady's room instead.

>>3408340

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1NxOZlEf5aNbVZkNFFtT0x1Qnc

Fixed some small things, like getting trapped in secret room and some balancing... And ridding of goddamn slimetrails.

>>3408415
Thanks for feedback. I'll see what I can do about those quibbles. I didn't include cc4tex.wad because people were complaining about everyone including it.

>>3408456
>>3408569
we can put a little more vaseline on there

>>3408467
That boy on the right is making me gay.

>>3406809
One of the best city and hell maps to be honest. Speaking of which what are the best hell maps in general? I love this theme but most people just half ass it.

>>3408651
>2010+6
>Not being cutesexual

>>3408651
>>3408656
dunno if it's a boy or girl.

>>3408658

Does it matter?

>>3408658
The way the face is drawn, especially the nose, make me certain it is a boy. The shorts are also very boy-ish, but it clearly has a few androgynous shapes and features that make it cute. Like the overly sparkly eyes.
But In the end of the day it doesn't matter, I've accepted the fact I'm gay for cute cartoon characters.

With the recent revival of old FPS series (Wolfenstein, DOOM, Quake, etc), I'm really hoping a proper studio can come in and make a good Duke game. Any hope of that happening with how shit Duke Nukem Forever was?

>>3408681
>Harmony Go- I mean Gearbox

lol no

>>3408681
Gearbox definitively shat on anyone else doing anything else with the Duke IP with lawsuits.
Even fangames are at risk.

Duke's dead, baby.

POST A FUCKING SCREENSHOT

POST A WEAPON RENDER

POST A MAP WIP

POST YOU WORKING IN SLADE

POST A SCREENSHOT

LET'S GET THIS SHIT ON THE ROAD

>>3408681

That is a cute dog.

>>3407772
>the video
HAHAHHAHAHHAAAA FUCKING FAGGOT

JUST KEEP USING WINDOWS 10

IT IS FAGGOT FRIENDLY

what happened to doombro?

>>3407795
>Linux is literally unusable
Only for gaming.

>>3408698

Trying to make blurry vision thing when you drink too much.
Keep running into troubles.

>>3408720

I'm not drunk. you're drunk

all two of you

>>3408698
Working on a better shader right now, trying to get the normals straight inverted for one of the diffuse shader.

>>3408698
we just did this>>3408402

>>3408726
well we gonna do it again

and again

and again

because it's saturday!

>>3408589

because SHE'S A WHORE

WHORE!

>>3408698
Now that Neural Nest is sorta ready, I am gonna finish up this castle.

I also gotta find a midi, although I kinda like using D_EVIL

>>3408726
>>3408729
no, this is different.

in-dev screenshots, not in-game screenshots.

>>3407552
Call it "Literal Doom"

>>3408725
Oh, duh, there's a fucking Invert Normal checkbox right on the node.

>>3408698
I'm trying to learn how to map.

Already I'm out of ideas. ;_;

So because I love fist of the north star so I went to try Hokuto No Doom out of pure curiosity, and it doesn't even work.

On top of that none of the .exe files work and when i use the . bat files it tells me i don't have directX installed even though i do.

Now I know why this mod is disliked so strongly.

>>3408698
>when you remove a significant portion of your map and have no idea what to replace it with

Am I supposed to load anything alongside the Japanese Community Project? I keep getting a whole bunch of missing textures. I've tried loading cc4tex with it, but it doesn't seem to be helping

>>3408751
Dumb question, but you're loading it in Doom 2 and not Doom 1 or Plutonia, right?

>>3408756
Well now I feel like a tard, apparently ZDL had defaulted to TNT for some fucking reason. Thanks

Is there a Kirby wad?

>>3408731
DELET THIS

I checked out DoomRPG together with RLA and its all fun and nice but
where is my actual hud? where can I see my health/ammo?
I tried different resolutions and its all the same. My hud is gone, how do I get it back?

>>3408731
>>3408589
The question isn't "Why is she taking a selfie?", it is "Why is she standing on the sink?"

>>3408767
Let me tell you about something called World of Kirbycraft.

>>3408787

She likes to feel tall.

>>3408698

Resounding eh, but atleast the music is snazzy.

>>3408352
that's just gzdoom's 3d viewer
>>3408068
you could sync up a wiimote with a nunchuck and use glovepie to get the same result

>>3408792
/r/ing drawfag of hae-lin on her tip-toes, desperately trying to pull herself up over a too-tall sink

>>3408698
making slow progress

>>3408695
its Dickford's Vengeance against 3dr and Duke Community for Firing him back in the 90's for being a complete cunt

>>3408698
Haven't installed proper doom since I got my computer upgrade. Been actually going through my backlog of games instead

>>3408818
May have exaggerated her height, but you get the idea. Might finish later.

>>3408698
made some fake motionblur/ smear frames in TEXTURES by overlaying previous spin frames with increasing translucency
it looks way better in motion, i swear

>>3408898
oh my god that's adorable

>>3408898

>>3408845
I hope BL3 flops, I dont think shitbox can take another flop and still have a studio.

>>3408746
You're not missing anything. It's just the first episode of Doom reskinned to have enemies and weapons look like FotNS shit. The sprites aren't even that good and it uses
>Doom95

>>3408790
The one that has jack shit to do with Kirby?

Which mods do you prefer in D4D?

In what order do you encounter all of the monsters in Doom 2?

1. Zombieman
2. Imp
3. Shotgunner
4: Pinky
5: Chaingunner
6: Spectre
7: HellKnight
8: Cacodemon
9: Revenant
10: Spider Mastermind

this is as far as I got

>>3408967

Mancubus, arachnotron are pretty obvious. Cybie and barons right after. Don't remember when archvile is shown but I'm pretty sure it's later on.

>>3408967
1. zombieman
2. imp
3. shotgun guy
4. demon
5. chaingun guy
6. spectre
7. lost soul
8. hell knight
9. cacodemon
10. revenant
11. spiderdemon
12. mancubus
13. arachnotron
14a. baron of hell
14b. cyberdemon
14c. pain elemental
15. archvile
16. nazi
17. commanderkeen
18. bossbrain

>>3408957
God tier
>Gauss Cannon Siege mode
>Portable Turret
>every SSG upgrade
>Soviet mode
>Remote-detonation rockets

High tier
>Shotgun triple-burst
>Assault rifle mini-missiles
>Lock-on rockets
>Gauss Cannon charge shot
>Plasma stun-bomb

Meh tier
>Assault rifle scope
>Grenade-launcher shotgun
>Chaingun explosive rounds

Shit tier
>Plasma heat blast (I swear, it doesn't even do any damage)

>>3408981
>Shit tier
>Plasma heat blast (I swear, it doesn't even do any damage)

the fuck you say

you have to be really close but you can run into a pack of lower-tier monsters, pop it and take a gib shower

>>3408981
>shotgun burst shot better than explosive shot

this is the exact opposite of doom 4 wot

>>3406745
If I want to play deathmatch games in Doom, Quake 1 / 2 / 3, Unreal tournament and Duke Nukem 3d, what're the best ways of going about this?

For Doom in particular, are there agreed 'best' DM mapsets?

>>3408981
>Chaingun explosive rounds
>Meh Tier
It mows through High-tier enemies like Mancubi and Barons without a problem. It rocks shit up.

>>3409009

Zandronum is pretty much the only good option for DOOM. Though if you want to play anything that isn't popular, you better learn how to use hosting services.
I hear EZQuake is good for Quake I, but I prefer FTE QW.
I'm not experienced with Quake II, but from what I hear KMQuake2 is the best option for multiplayer.
Quake III runs on modern systems without much problem, but I'd recommend getting ioquake3 or Spearmint.
No idea for Unreal Tournament, I haven't played any of those games.
EDuke32 doesn't support online play to my knowledge, so your best bet is to have bought the Megaton Edition before it was taken off sites and hope everyone you want to play with also bought it. And even then, I hear Megaton Edition is pretty crap for multiplayer. Oh well.

>>3408698
I've probably spent more time making a truck look like it drives off without you than I have making the actual map around it.

>>3408990
I guess he likes that it deals rather hefty amount of damage in short time.
While grenade gibs zombies and imps, it is rather ineffectual against some tougher monsters.
Burst takes down revenants in one go, which normally would require two SSG at least. Unupgraded that's more ammo efficient, plus it is sorta sidearm function, and quick to acquire - usually before you can even get weapons that can take revs down as quickly.

>>3408698
slowly but surely replacing every monster sound

then every weapon sound

then every environmental sound

open to suggestions to spice things up, for example shotgunner ambient sound is currently "shotguyguy is looking for his keys", and his sight sound is "shotgunguy caught you with his shotgun eyes"

>when you realize the thread for DUMP 2 is on the first page and the thread for DUMP 3 is on the second page

>>3409059
What's special about those wads?

>>3409052
I'm more remembering the shotgun having a spread cone of "melee", which made the explosive shot a direct upgrade because it could hit at ranges greater than 10 feet

is that not the case in d4d

>>3409024
>the only servers with players in them are megaman
I really hate playing dead PC games. Nobody ever plays anything but the shittiest mods.

>>3409087
It's far from dead but hard to find a decent server which is why i just host them myself

>>3409087
>dead
>Doom
what?

Also MM8DM servers had gotten rare up until a few days ago when Cutman announced a new version.

No, the new hotness is Complex Doom, that was the wad that fills up the populated server list most of the time.

>>3409070
DUMP is a series of projects that allow newbie mappers to get their maps or weapons (as of Dump 3) into a project. Quality may vary, but the maps are generally pretty fun to play.

>>3409102
I just opened up Zandronum and couldn't find any DM servers aside from Megaman ones.

>>3409106
>DM
Oh you should have specified. Either way I only found 2 DM servers with people in them.

There's a populated Team Game though if you want that, the mod they're using is AOW.

>>3409096
It won't let me make my own, think it's because I'm using wireless.

>>3409059
Man.
Dinosaurs in Doom would be pretty cool.