/vr/ - Retro Games

===NEWS===

[08-02] Anon maps update: Earth >>3400398
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Doom64EX/index.php?showtopic=143

[07-30] Anon map WIP: Moonlit >>3397363
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n0lh8qppkkmq2x7/Moonlit.pk3?dl=1

[07-29] Anon map release: HOUSE.wad >>3393371
https://www.dropbox.com/s/krtymf1c5am9saf/HOUSE.wad?dl=0

[07-29] Vinesauce Doom Mapping Contest
https://twitter.com/joel_vinesauce/status/759106077120204801

[07-29] MM8BDM v5
http://cutstuff.net/mm8bdm/?p=249

[07-29] Anon mod release: Void Elemental >>3391175
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7lodgca3scj2ivz/Void.pk3?dl=0

[07-25] Anon map release: Foundry >>3384954
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1NxOZlEf5aNOEx3YXh1TzEyeWs/view?usp=sharing

[07-22] Anon map release: Crunk Refinery >>3379784
http://basedhost.com/tmp/crunkrefinery.zip

[07-22] Andrew Hulshult Doom remake album
https://youtu.be/AGK1dr-Ql0w

[07-22] Interview with Romero on Quake
https://qexpo2016.com/tronyn-interviews-john-romero/

[07-22] Anon mod release: Spamcannon >>3377859
http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=spamcannon.pk3

[07-18] Anon mod release: Green Snek >>3371332
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nk49nzw50uje53s/Green%20Snek.pk3?dl=0

[07-18] Anon mod release: Behr's 2016 Color Trends palette >>3369936
http://www14.zippyshare.com/v/DlMdqClj/file.html
http://www96.zippyshare.com/v/RzdAB0Pi/file.html

[07-17] Anon mod update: Smooth Doom Weapons Only >>3368842
http://www.mediafire.com/download/trk7yt4v9egtrnv/SmoothDoom-WeaponsOnly.pk3

[07-16] Anon map release: TerrorTomb >>3365964
http://www.mediafire.com/download/vucmubygevbuzfe/TerrorTomb.wad

[07-16] Anon map WIP: Processing Facility >>3364032
http://www.mediafire.com/download/hu8t4389gm0byd1/Episode+1.wad

[07-15] Anon mod release: Batty >>3363190
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r33b58k999qtvmo/Batty.pk3?dl=0

[07-14] Brutal Doom Monsters Only 20b
http://www.mediafire.com/download/qqjmegwi5q17elp/bdmonsters20b.pk3

===

TO SUBMIT NEWS REPLY/BACKLINK TO THIS POST.

>>3401135

Hooray for weapons!

>>3401135

4th for the Romero & Hall Dancestravaganza

>>3401146
fug didnt read that was kevin cloud
the poor photo quality made me imagine romero's majestic mane

>>3401148

http://store.steampowered.com/news/23283/
>Bethesda QuakeCon Weekend - Save up to 50%

Only one worth mentioning is Wolfenstein: The New Order - 50% Off though

>>3401163

>doom, a game that came out this year is 50% off

>not notable

Don't be a fag.

>>3401170
Sorry, tampons aren't on sale.

>>3401191
you're perfectly able to get your mom's though

>>3401163
>>3401191
how does one become as cool as you?

>>3401191
Woah, you're pretty EPIC

>>3401191
>there are still people this salty over nudoom's relatively high success

>>3401191
I-Is he allowed to say that on the internet?

>>3401163
WTNO is shit.

>>3401238
Honestly I thought when it said "Doom" it meant the game we all already have since most of us have been calling it Doom 4 to avoid confusion.

>>3401242
it's decent enough, wish you got more rockets though

>>3401242
That's what your mom said when she shit you out of your rotten pussy

>>3401249
you're right

she saw me and then said 'WTNO is the smelliest shitpile of STD and combined black mamba drops in a martini glass for good measure'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0I7QkC3S9A

I'm foaming at the mouth for more videos from Cage.

anyone here speed run Wolfenstein 1D?
http://www.wonder-tonic.com/wolf1d/

>>3401298
>memerunning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1pzPdw2ukQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWXdVJLxlzI

why does changing the key make it happier?

What is the science of music and emotion?

Is there a way to batch convert MIDIs to major key?

>>3401272
are those guns from the new quake?

>>3401309
Major keys usually sound happy because there's less dissonance.

Doom's music has a lot of dissonance which creates tension, when you switch it to major and the tension and dissonance go away.

There's always exceptions but for the most part.

>>3401321
dissonance, huh?

>>3401304

>>3401309
one minute into D_DOOM and it sounds like a yoshi's island song

heh

>>3401309
Makes the songs sound like they're in some Christian game clone if itself or something.

>>3401354
Doom is already a Christian game
that said, has anyone made a WAD where you shoot fruit at the demons until they get the itis and go to sleep?

What's some good music to play Doom to?

I asked this question before, but for some reason I can't find the post in any of the previous threads.

>>3401364
Blanck Mass - Dumb Flesh (2015) [320 & FLAC]
>Electro-Industrial
Samples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG0sxc4bTVo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIl_HsIt8sY

[320]: https://mega.co.nz/#!14cnULaD!9ILKsHUjkakuo3On_AIlQ0zypQNiCmNdmiwLWif3UD8
[FLAC]: https://mega.co.nz/#!5R40kTpD!h4Y2FjF536NY7N0oMG8nBW2dCLbW7L5vxud1m0ixI60

>being exited for a mod that won't be complete for several months

How do you change music to a major key?
I'm trying to do it in my head and it's hard

>>3401370
>being excited for a mod that will never be released

>>3401371
Time to start learning music theory, anon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_(music)

In a nutshell it's a matter of semi-tone shifts

>>3401375
>adult swim
... ?

>>3401371
I can actually do it no problem. I have to know the song really well prior to do so though.

>>3401370
>being excited for a mod and it lets you down

>>3401371
Going from minor to major is easy, just change the minor third to a major third by moving it up one semitone (one note).

Doom's music isn't all minor though, it seems to frequently use a blues scale which is minor pentatonic with an extra note between the fifth and fourth for more dissonance. With this scale it isn't just shifting some notes up and down to a pattern because now there's an extra note that needs to fit into a major scale so the person changing the notes needs to decide on their own where to put that extra note. Though it's still just shifting notes.

If you mean like software then you can get any MIDI editor and just transpose a few notes, but if you want to do it to audio and not a MIDI then you'll need Melodyne which is like polyphonic autotune.

>>3401364
What are some good music wads?

>>3401393
>blues scale

best scale

>>3401393
>>3401390
here's my shitty attempt

is there anonymous soundcloud
https://soundcloud.com/djames516/shitty-attempt-at-e1m3-major

>>3401421
clyp.it

>>3401425
ok I'll do that from now on
Don't want y'all listening to my mixtapes

https://www.massassi.net/levels/files/13.shtml

Recommending a Jedi Knight Dark Forces II mod called the search for leia.

It's it's own self contained episode that puts you in control of han solo, has cutscenes and shit you get to play as han and luke for one level and you even got chewie helping you at certain spots.

I enjoyed it so I figured i'd share it here to anyone that wants it.
Plus I feel like Dark Forces II is a little underappreciated as it's to me one of the best licensed star wars games.

this is what i was thinking for this >>3400624 thing
i like making effects

So i tried the latest ZDoom to play Doom 4 Doom because by PC is a piece of shit.

It came to my attention the camera looks kind of... wonky compared to GZDoom. I don't know how to exactly explain...

>>3401517
looking up/down in software rendering is a piece of work
the doom renderer is only equipped to draw perfectly vertical walls and level floors relative to the screen, so vertical looking just moves the horizon line and keeps rendering head-on

>>3401517
my computer is a potato from 2006 and can still run D4D on opengl renderer without issues.

do you still have your dad's work computer from the 90s?

>>3401517
ZDoom has to use a palette, which means the graphics that would be full, proper color on GZDoom get their colors limited to what Doom normally uses. Think of it like trying to make an image on a NES, except here you got more colors.

>>3401526
He probably just uses AMD

>>3401521

Yes! That's exactly what happens.
There's no way to "fix" that, right? Other than getting the latest GZDoom, which for some reason doesn't load some textures for me.

>>3401526

GZDoom doesn't load some textures for me.
I'm using a ThinkPad T60p, go figure.

>>3401530

aahh. Thanks for explaining that.

>>3401364
Still looking for music to listen to.
I prefer stuff that fits the tone of the game, so probably rock and metal stuff.
If it's metal, I can do without deepish voices screaming things you can't understand.

>>3401536
>which for some reason doesn't load some textures for me.
you sure you have all the right files in the same folder? try giving the gzdoom package its own folder and try it there.

>>3401536
if it doesn't load textures then report it so it can be fixed, and then try a slightly older dev build

>>3401539
>>3401401
rokeleko.wad ;^)

Oh boy, here we fuckin go.

>>3401551
FUCK

OFF

>>3401551
OH MY GOD

>>3401551
please keep that shit very far away from doom

we don't need more underage kids

>>3401551

>>3401551
I'm ready to fucking die now.

>>3401551
man i'm already having a rough night and you go and share this mess with me damn man this is rough

>>3401551

>>3401551

i'm gonna need two guns for this one

>>3401551

>>3401551

>>3401551
Did they use that god awful Doom movie with The Rock in it to reinforce their "theory" where the demons were changed to medical experiments? That channel is such a waste of bandwith, making up stupid "theories" that look clickbaity enough that tons of stupid kids will click on it and give them AdSense money.

Doom's weapons AREN'T REAL?

The Pinky is the only monster that's NOT A DEMON?

Do human souls COME FROM HELL?

>>3401582

You won't BELIEVE what the Berserk Pack contains!

>>3401581

Take a look for yourself, anon, it's pretty fucking awful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L-E-Xj0_t8

>>3401541

Yeah man, all the files in the same folder.

>>3401542

I guess i could just report it, yeah.
Gonna try old dev builds now, thanks for the help.

I would like to know if there's a "fix" for looking up and down like this Anon over here explained: >>3401521

>>3401592
...not gonna lie

you got me

>>3401539
Thanks Game Theory, now I have to bump my post.

>>3401594
>not having an embed button on youtube links
>not being already familiar with music enough to tell obvious in-context references to something
it's like you want to get rickrolled in 2016.

>>3401551
>was expecting a theory if all the doom games connect to one another
>got this instead

>>3401582
>>3401586

The TRUTH About Health Bonuses!

>>3401593
no that's just how the software renderer is, it wasn't designed for looking up and down. would need a whole new software renderer for that, and for a while there was one in the works based on something from build or eduke32 i think but it was super fucked and abandoned

>>3401551
no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no oh god no

>>3401539
here's a woman screaming things you can't understand

Immortal Bird - Empress/Abscess
>Black Metal, Death Metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkekR2sUoC8

http://www11.zippyshare.com/v/ZITgPNC3/file.html
320kbps CBR MP3

>>3401612

Aw man. Well, thanks for answering.

>>3401605
>filename

>>3401364
If you want some rapid, actiony music:

Guilty Gear's OST.
Powerwolf.
Carpenter Brut
ParagonX9
Book of Black Earth
Dethklok
Sabaton
KMFDM

Now, if you want some spooky atmoshperic stuff:

Terra Tenebrosa
Catacombs
Omega Massif
M.z 412
Lustmord

>>3401551
Well... FUCK

some poor soul who already watched it, give me the TLDR version of it
no way i'm watching it and giving it views

It was a joke you guys it doesn't exist.

>>3401659
well
fuck
or rather: whew

>>3401659
Thank christ

LISA anon where did you go

>>3401639
>Guilty Gear's OST
my nigga, can you even get darker skin toned than this

>>3401364
killer instinct and DOOM's osts go well with classic doom i find

>>3401614
>If it's metal, I can do without deepish voices screaming things you can't understand.
Why must you hurt me this way.

Haiku

A challenge for you
Play all through JPCP
No caco deaths, please

>>3401764
joke's on you, i'll just boot it up with HDoom and fuck my way through

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfK0YFYN08Y

Most requested feature for Booty is now in. When within range, money now floats towards you. May start off at a flimsy range and increase when you pick up a powerup or something?
Or maybe there can be a powerup to literally cause money to rain from the sky, after which it all flies over to you.

I'd post a webbum but I can't be arsed to get another webm converting program.

>>3401551

DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE

>>3401551

>mfw the uproar this caused

someone needs to do one of those thread captures with the zoomed in posts and shit right fucking now

>>3401551
couldn't find it, either they deleted it or anon is a lying bitch

>>3401806
How about no.

>>3401810
see
>>3401659

>>3401806
Let's not, it's not worth that.

>>3401695
Yeah, but I've listened to NuDoom's soundtrack a lot lately and don't think KI's really fits it.

>>3401639
>KMFDM

>>3401806
It's said civilization is no more than three meals away from barbarism. You prove that /vr/ is only three posts away from /v/.

>>3401364
Demonsteele's pack of metal MIDIs is alright, there's also Jimmy's Jukebox if you prefer to do some setup prior to playing.

I ran through entire OBLIGE mapsets with nothing but Eurobeat

>>3401794
Term can you please hook me up with the test map you're using in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1aytPnk47w

seems like a great test arena

>>3401816
>disliking KMFDM

>>3401823
open up demonsteele, go to maptest

>>3401823
It's just Demonsteele's MAPTEST, innit?

Why not delete all the low content reaction image replies while you're at it?

There was a paste in here a couple threads ago about recommended Doom wads and I've spent a good while going through and seeing what there was and I'm surprised at how much shitty stuff was in there. Also I'm including some stuff I peeped on that people had posted about in here.

Equinox - starts out pretty good, but quickly became massive rooms with massive amounts of monsters. Good for building up the combo meter when using Demonsteele, otherwise not super great. 3 out of 5

Doom Raider - Lost points with for both requiring jumping and for not replacing Doomguy with Laura or an expy. Didn't make it too far, lots of death traps.2 out of 5

JPCP - Some okay stuff. Map designs are mostly simple and way too many monsters. The warning about the maps not showing too much depth in design was spot on. 3 out of 5

Temple of the Lizardmen 3 - Played this for much longer than I should've. Maps are claustrophobic and extremely linear. The shitty flashlight gimmick would've been okay if you could dual wield it with a weapon. Even just the pistol or knife. Which, by the way, is like a handheld rocket launcher with how much damage it does. 2.5 out of 5.

Scythe - Pretty good. At least up until the map that spawns you in the middle of four mancubuses. After that it was just hordes of monsters maps. 3.5 out of 5

Scythe 2 - Here we go. Amazing map design overall, challenging encounters without going overboard. Dropped stuff like D4D and Demonsteele over it and had a blast every time. I almost feel llike this has ruined me for other wads. 5 out of 5.

Shadow of the Wool Ball - Cute with some interesting gameplay. Maps are all Wolfenstein-style. Fun for a short diversion. 3.5 out of 5

Harmony - This one was okay. There's some weird fuckery on some of the maps to fake overlapping sectors and such. The maps were okay, but there never seemed to be enough ammo around. 4 out of 5

>>3401830

Adventure of Square - If I had one complaint here, it's that the maps are _too_ big and packed full of stuff to do. Usually I don't quicksave in the middle of maps, but here it was a necessity. Everything about this mod is super polished, with only the HUD feeling like maybe it could've used a bit more work to make it feel less disjointed. 5 out of 5.

Suspended in Dusk - Amazing map design, but like the ones in Adventures of Square they tend to be a bit on the large size. Unlike Square, SiD has hitscan enemies which made avoiding taking damage that much more difficult. 4 out of 5

And for the gameplay wads:

Demonsteele - This reeeeeally could use some documentation because it's a lot of fun once you know how it all works. The combo system is a little harsh, especially if you're not facing endless hordes. I really liked the health system, it feels both modern and retro at the same time, The second character is cool, though clearly unfinished. 4.5 out of 5

Project Brutality - Lots of neat stuff in here. New weapons, new enemies, tons of options. I love that enemies can get kill animations on you. 4 out of 5.

D4D - This is a lot like Project Brutality, except there's not quite so many options. Which is to D4D's benefit. I really like the upgrade system and the way you earn points to buy the upgrades, I just really wish the upgrades themselves felt more useful. I kept going back and forth between this and Project Brutality because they both have things I like that I wish the other would do/use/have to make a perfect gameplay wad. 4 out of 5.

>>3401824
some of their songs are ok

How practical is keyboard only Doom?

>>3401838
Unless you're doing like Plutonia or something keyboard Doom is fine.

Or using a wad that expects you to jump, use items, duck, scroll abilities and a bunch of other bullshit while you're playing.

>>3401838
the biggest struggle with me personally is turning around and shit, and it's a bit hard for me to play episodes like inferno. It's ok overall though

>>3401838
It works, but you'll be playing a lot slower.
Mouseturning was always inherent to Doom.

>>3401825
>>3401826

>summoning switches run lowest-to-highest, right-to-left

the weeb is strong in this one

>>3401832
Suspended in Dusk is really high-tier work. I should continue my playthrough. very nice attention to detail, and not in a 10000 sectors way.

>>3401913
I need to go back and finish it. theres a lot of really nice stuff in there.

>low on health
>open exit door
>skeleton boys

>>3401952
>Low on health
>No ammo at all
>Reduced to punching things
>trapped in room
>Baron of Hell spawns in
>only way out is to punch him to death

>>3401952
>Chaingunner from far away
>no cover

>>3401957
You couldn't think of anything more original?

>>3401952
>Low on health.
>Only way to proceed through the level is over some damage floors.

>>3401828
The post directly attacked the culture of the empire of great /v/ritain, of course it would get deleted

>>3401996
you seem angry your post was deleted

How about this. You defeat a yard full of cacos and mancubi with rockets and ssg, leaving corpses everywhere, and you with no rockets and about 40 shells. You open the next door and three archviles come out. There are more rockets, and a plasma gun + 400 cells, but on the far side of the archviles. The archviles proceed to resurrect everything while you try to lure them away from the supplies for long enough to re-arm yourself.

Later the same thing happens with revenants and archviles and cyberdemons teleporting into the yard, with your way blocked to further rocket supplies and a secret BFG by a large group of spectres.

In short the supplies you need to defeat each group of monsters are always blocked off until you have defeated exactly the group of monsters you need the supplies for. This is Reverie map32.

>>3402000
Wow!

You are superfast at being mad!

>>3401539
>If it's metal, I can do without deepish voices screaming things you can't understand.

Why even bother with metal in the first place if you care more about vocals than the actual music?

>>3401830
>Scythe - Pretty good. At least up until the map that spawns you in the middle of four mancubuses. After that it was just hordes of monsters maps. 3.5 out of 5

Huh? I don't remember Scythe 1 using hordes that early.

>>3402036
true, i am struggling to understand this. map08 has a fair number of hitscanners at the start, map10 is a boss map with a bunch of high health monsters in a cramped space. nothing i'd call a horde though. i guess everyone has their own definition of "horde"

>>3402036
Not him, played it some time recently, and by map17 all maps have had relatively few monsters ( always under 200 ).
They are relatively condensed maps, but still, not slaughter so far... Map32 might count, but eh.

(assuming map07 is "the map that spawns you in the middle of four mancubuses")

>>3401957
>chaingunner far away
>can't hurt me cause hes too far away

Hey, I have a question.

I am trying to make an intermission that plays between levels.

This: http://zdoom.org/wiki/Intermission_script says that it's possible.

But every instance I have found of this seems to only apply at the end of the game. As in: You're making the last intermission before the game ends.

None of it seems to work for between-level purposes.

Can someone put me on the right path on how I could get something like this done? Such as a sample script I could read from or something that shows me how to do this? I just want text that plays between a level.

>>3401794
Does it work when standing still?

>>3401551
Guys I think it's a joke.

I just searched for it on youtube. Either it doesn't exist at all.

Or he removed it and that seems fucking hilarious if he did.

How much easier would the game be if weapon switching was instantaneous, instead of taking a second ?

>>3402152
Slightly easier?

Its not like doom is really hard and we need to tone it down, its fine as it. Also plenty of mods that have pretty fast weapon switching

>>3401830
>Doom Raider - Lost points with for both requiring jumping...

>>3401952
>playing new mapset
>past midway point, have big guns
>get to tough level's exit door
>whip out bfg
>pull trigger, open door, expecting there to atelast be a caco behind it
>wasted 40 cells on the exit switch
this actually happened too

idk if any of you use it, but fosshub's downloads have master boot record hijacking malware in them

https://news.softpedia.com/news/hacker-compromises-fosshub-to-distribute-mbr-hijacking-malware-506932.shtml

stay safe

>>3402209
Never heard of it but thanks for the heads up.

Well, I failed to finish this yesterday.
Oh well, hopefully today's gonna be better.

>>3402226

Ayyyy lmao

>>3402226
appears to have a snout

>>3401632
I don't get it.

>>3401957
Snipe him with the chaingun.

>>3402145
see
>>3401659

>>3402169
Jumping being added to Doom is just one of my pet peeves. Though really it's maps that require it that bug me. Especially since most of the time wads don't indicate whether it will be necessary or not and leave me to wonder if low ledges are there to be jjumped over or if I need to hunt down a switch or alternate way around.

>>3402320
i think that it's OCD but it's 0cd and presumably someone with OCD would want it to properly spell OCD, maybe even capitalized

it's not the strongest OCD trigger i've seen but i guess it counts

>>3402442

I'm going to make some jumping maps just for you, anon.

>>3402209

For some reason the page refuses to even load, but I'm safely going to assume this was caused for "lulz" and there's not a hidden motive behind it.

>>3401135
What's this pic from?

>>3402442
surely you would have expected a tomb raider mod to have jumping though?

>>3402457
From a MAD Magazine Doom parody.

>>3402457
some MAD or MADtv magazine

scans should be in the /vr/ archive

>>3402456 (me)

The thread on /g/ l i t e r a l l y confirms it was for "lulz". Good to know.

>>3402453
All I ask is you mention that jumping is required. Again, the biggest thing:
> and leave me to wonder if low ledges are there to be jumped over or if I need to hunt down a switch or alternate way around.

>>3402467
Not really. There's plenty of Doom maps that do the temple-delving thing to their maps without requiring jumping. I mean, should I imagine that it would require ledge-grabbing too since that was in Tomb Raider?

>>3402475
how about just having a required jump half a minute in

>>3402480
jumping and crouching would be assumed. ledge grabbing would be an added bonus, but unlikely considering it would take extra work

>>3402481
See, it is nice that Doom Raider has the very first puzzle require jumping. However instead of making it clear you have to see the barely visible slightly extended part of the back that is staggered to look like stairs, the bottom of which you can just start to run up. So it looks more like the author just got the height values wrong at first.

Fucking dropped.

every zdoom map should have a tutorial section in which you must jump over a wall, crouch through a grating, and freeaim at a button on the ceiling to get out of the first room

>>3402512
How about just like a list in the txt of which non-standard doom controls are required?

>>3402507

I don't get it

>>3402520
Don't give it attention

>>3402518
Nobody reads those, sadly.

>>3402526

The only really feasible solution is to have it in big printbold letters loudly declaring it every time.
And frankly, fuck that. I ain't doin' that shit.

If someone wants to dock points because I didn't make it "clear" that a ZDoom mapset required jumping or crouching, well, that's on them.

>>3402518
>>3402541
the only thing you can really say is

- if it's for doom/boom, no jumping
- if it's for zdoom, jumping is allowed

but then you get mappers who don't state the engine/complevel their map is for

>>3402526
I do! Looking for shit exactly like that. Because if I know beforehand it downgrades from being mild irritation to just being a peeve and I can get over it.

>>3402560
you may be, in fact, the only person in this world that reads the .txt files

What's the general consensus of D4D?
>tfw no pewpew pistol/stasis rifle/lighting gun upgrades

>>3402592

>saving a thumbnail

>>3402592
Not too bad. I really like that there's a sound effect for finding every secret in a level.

>>3402563
i also read the text file.

>>3402445
personally i found the filename like this ever since i ripped it saved it from know your meme

>>3402592
I's good to hold my favorite spaceship in my hands

>>3402601
>sound effect for finding every secret in a level
I'd actually like that as an alternative to the automap/HUD telling me how many secrets I still have to get. Otherwise hiding the secret count means I don't know if I have all the secrets until having exited the map.

>>3402619
that's only a bit stronger than gauss jumping was in doom 4

>>3402592
Two sexualized imp tits/10.
Great if you want to have a blast in a tech-y futuristic wad. Changes gameplay somewhat dramatically, so you may find yourself in disadvantage more frequently if you don't adapt to it. Especially with Barons and Hell Knights.

>>3402592

I still kinda want to make a not Doom 4 mod, but make it so it's compatible with Zandybam 3.0 so people can play it online, literally all of the Doom 4 styled mods use the most advanced features and I feel only D4D shows off the best use of it.

>it's another Zdoom megawad that uses custom enemies

Fucking hell, I just want more maps that make use of all of Zdoom's UDMF features BUT without custom enemies. It's ironic how you can only properly play gameplay mods with limit-removing megawads, because the actual Zdoom megawads break compability because they ALWAYS add custom enemies.

>>3402615
Wowwww obvious samefag

I bet you read EULAs before hitting Accept, too

>>3402740
in over a decade of running Debian, i don't think i've ever had to hit accept on a EULA.

Can someone reupload me the demonsteele midi mod? I made a fresh install on my computer and lost it and the download in the thread was bestever......

>>3401639
>Powerwolf
>Sabaton
Youre my guy.

>>3402770
http://www8.zippyshare.com/v/4oOKNdTu/file.html

>>3402830
thanks.

>>3402770
>>3402830
What is the Demonsteele midi mod?

>>3402326
Doom's autoaim won't let you because he's too far away and the chances of him landing hits on you increase as you get closer.

Gettin real tired of these balancenerds on the zdoom forums.

>>3402978
what

>>3402978
I know, how dare those faggots give proper feedback.

is gl_vid_refreshhz still a thing in GZdoom? I'm on a 120hz monitor, and when i play Windowed, it's at the full 120hz, but I switch back to Fullscreen and I get 60hz again.

I'm not sure if it has anything to do with any of my custom resolutions (I have one of those cheap Korean 1440p Panels), but is there any way I can manually set my refresh rate in game? or through a CVAR?

>13k, 1.5k sectors linedefs already
>Not even done with map

Oh dear I should contain myself. It is just addicting, making details and whatnot.

Making just overdetailed trash!

>>3402989

Nevermind, i just found vid_refreshrate! The first couple zDoom forum posts / Graf posts I found were pretty old, didn't know he consolidated that command. Now i'm back running at my full 120 again :)

>>3402997
I love detailing and plodding but I'm so bad at actually making good or interesting layouts.

I wish I could be some decent mapper's detailfag or something, he carves out the basic layout and gameplay, and then I come in and pretty it up to the best of my abilities.

>>3402978
>>3402987
Doom is perfect and doesn't need to be modded at all. Stop changing the gameplay.

New maps are good though.

Only joking.

Is Ancient Aliens any good?

>>3403038
no, there's a cyberdemon in the first map

>>3403041
That happens to be exactly the reason why I asked, since the first two maps didn't give me a good impression

>>3403047
it was a joke, ancient aliens is great

don't be a casual like that

>>3403047
>>3403038
It improves vastly later on, but I warn you, it gets hard as fuck.

If you play E1M1 at midnight, on Nightmare you can meet another Space Marine who will follow you for the rest of the game.

>>3403065
>YOU SEE THOSE FLYING SKULLS, MAN? DAMN, THAT'S SOME CREEPY SHIT!

>>3402690
For some reason dbthanatos just never wants to make Skulltag (back then)/Zandronum (nowadays)-compatible wads.

Then again, it wasn't until 2015 that Zandronum actually had an update that let it play AEODv5, which is old.

Show us your best frankenspriting job
go go go!

>play unmodded Doom at Ultraviolence
>punch an Imp
>PLEASE DON'T HURT ME

>>3402716
Scythe 2 works well with custom gameplay mods despite having custom enemies.

>>3403089
scythe2 doesn't have true custom enemies in the decorate class hierarchy sense, it just has nazis/keens in disguise

>>3403083
>tfw still have random zangringo skin pack that turns archville into a fucking pokemon

>>3403096
It has Mr. X and those floating baron things.

>>3403121
Exactly. The former is a Nazi and the latter is Commander Keen.

>>3403121
which are nazis/keens in disguise

so uh

i put a .wad in my gzdoom directory but gzdoom can't locate it

what do

>>3403147
Just use ZDL and have it load and manage all your wads

>>3403147
drag it to the executable kicking & screaming

>>3403147

If it's a pwad, GZDoom won't locate it. It has to be loaded on top of an iwad.

second weapon test of the TC i'm working on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14rlPD0L57g

>>3403162
that chain gun does not look like it's pointing towards the center at all.

Also that pistol looks really awkward with no hand holding it.

>>3401952

>199 health
>soulsphere placed so that you cannot avoid picking it up

>>3403173
i still have to make proper hand for the models, also the chaingun position can be fixed.

I probably should get some more livelier trees as the dead tree-prop replacement. Make this area a garden of sort.

>>3403007
That apparently is something people do. I remember reading some comments in Sunlust / SF2012 about people making layout and other people prettying 'em up.

Why FPSes can't be called Doom-clones?

>>3403224

I'd like to see you make an argument for why we should call, I don't know, Far Cry 3 a DOOM clone.

>>3403229
You run with a gun and shoot in the 3D space.

>>3403232

That's pretty fucking generic. Would you call all first-person RPGs Wizardry/Might & Magic clones? Or all RPGs with a top-down perspective Ultima clones?

>>3403243
they're all d&d clones

Here's what I've been playing around with making the past week:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrSFv1mZpmo

>>3403246

You miss my point. If a game only shares very basic concepts with another, then it's not really a clone now is it?

>>3403251
and I was making a joke about that point

every game with a character (or an RNG for that matter) shares basic concepts with d&d therefore they're all d&d clones

and now the joke is dead

>>3403250

>that art style

CUTE

CUTE!

>>3403224
why not Wolfenstein clones?

>>3403258

Oh, my apologies.

>>3403224
They used to be called Doom clones back in the 90s.

Now they're all called cawadoodies.

>>3403259
Thanks. I'm starting to work on enemy graphics, but now that I know how easy changing weapons are that's more than just replacing graphics after doing the nunchuks I kind of want to go back and add in frames/animations for the guns.

>>3403275

The only thing I'd say is tweak the nunchucks to behave a little differently instead of using a chainsaw affect with that weird pull that comes with it, but that's a personal preference

>>3403260

Doom was more notable, if only because "demonic killing blah blah". Wolf3d is too flat imo but that's probably not why.

>>3403279
Does that look weird? It's easy enough to take out.

>>3403283

Well the only way to remove the pull effect and the weird view snap that comes from using a_punch or the a_saw is to make your melee fire invisible projectiles.

>>3403286
Nah, there's a SF_NOPULLIN tag now for A_SAW
http://zdoom.org/wiki/A_Saw

>>3403275
What a huge bulge.

>>3403318
He's packing heat.

>>3403318
U(x4)
heals big wounds

>>3403250
Those numbers on the HUD are hard to read, the faded "8"s are too bright, making 7s look like Ps, 2s look like lowercase Es, 5s look like 6s, etc.
Also, cute.

Time to fuck off to sleep. Probably won't finish this piece of shit tomorrow either...

>>3403250
I am really bothered by the sounds the character makes. They feel bit out-of-place and too pronounced.

>>3403345
Thanks, I'm planning on giving the HUD another go-around because of things like that and the portrait now faces the wrong way and the soft black makes it blend in too much with the circle backdrop.

The LED-like light up numbers were cool in theory but I don't think they worked out well and there's the readability issues you mentioned.

I really wish I could use double the pixel size for portraits and enemies because it's really hard to draw something at that small of a size. As an example this here is the first thing I drew when starting the project.

Post best DOOM music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bnYothe0Ag

>>3403454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkhCNx-8Qos

>>3403454

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox8fl9ZwsJA

>>3403454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68U0p4q20wc

>http://dwellingofduels.net/dodarchive/07-08-PC/12-Versus%20the%20Rest-Doom-Blood%20Red-DoD.mp3
I WANNA SEE YOU CRY BLOOD RED

>>3403454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m35pIk5wfNk

>>3403475

Nice.

version with sound
>>1224336

making some DAKKA
or rather BRRRT at this point
i like how the sound turned out
and the muzzle effects are intricate as FUCK

version with sound (i think i figured out cross-board quoting now)
>>>1224336

making some DAKKA
or rather BRRRT at this point
i like how the sound turned out
and the muzzle effects are intricate as FUCK

>>3403526
>>3403536
good job.

>>3403537
HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS SHIT WORK

>>3403538
You do it like this.

>>>/wsg/1224336

version with sound (please work this time)
>>>/wsg/1224336

making some DAKKA
or rather BRRRT at this point
i like how the sound turned out
and the muzzle effects are intricate as FUCK

>>3402563
I read txt files

>>3402554
>if it's for zdoom, jumping is allowed

I really hate that this has to be assumed. Makes me really wish there was a source port more advanced than prboom+ that was still primarily designed around the original gameplay. Even eternity has features that break from that, including jumping.

>>3403250
>Health on the right and armour on the left
This is both against the norm (making it slightly confusing) and makes health look like the less important statistic, which isn't true.
>>3403352
> the portrait now faces the wrong way
It looks fine to me, she looks cool facing to the left, even. She's on the left side of the screen anyway so the perspective makes sense if she was facing forward in 3d space.
>I really wish I could use double the pixel size for portraits and enemies because it's really hard to draw something at that small of a size.
You can't just scale things down? For everyone's sanity don't have varying pixel sizes, though.

>>3403667
Ahhhhh, I actually had it the other way around first, but started second guessing myself on what looked better. Thanks, I'll swap them back around.

As for scaling, no. I tried. It looked terrible without what would basically require redrawing it at the lower resolution after scaling, completely removing the reason for drawing at the larger size in the first place.

Thanks for the feedback.

why can't any doom 4 mod ever get the chaingun right

>>3403349
>They feel bit out-of-place and too pronounced.
they sound like the soundbytes from metroid dreadnought, which were edited quite a lot, compare to the mostly-stock sound effects of the rest of the mod

>>3403620
what do you think is missing or could be added to make a port more advanced than prboom+ but still being designed around the original gameplay?

>>3403842
they seem to think it works like some minigun of sorts that fires four times intermittently upon booting up, when in reality it works more along the lines of the chaingun from quake 2.

It also doesn't feel as chunky or as satisfying to use as it did in Doom 4 but that's to be expected, vanilla Doom's weaponry is exceptional when to the aspect of stiffness it comes to, even outside its limits. Still, the rest of the guns are okay for what they are.

>>3403454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brBQVcf37Xc

AMBIENT
ambient.zip (581 KB, 1994-11-26) - Larry Mulcahy
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=1094

this map is a town overrun by barney worshippers, or something. a product of his hatedom of the nineties. the main street and surroundings showed some promise but the rest of the map is monotextured corridor mazes. some texture bugs caused by the wad's replacement PNAMES not matching ultdoom's TEXTURE2.

can someone recommend me a good doom II megawad with some good techbase levels where you eventually go to hell but only in the end.
something with a resemblance of a plot, those screens that sometimes appear inbetween levels and advance the plot
something with realistic looking bases not just abstract maze levels that give me a fucking headache.

i have already played UAC Ultra, Operation UAC, Doom II Reloaded

Ok, now this is kinda stupid.

>>3404118
Not stupid enough.

>>3404106
>techbase levels where you eventually go to hell but only in the end.
that's like, 90% of every megawad ever, because that's what all the official Dooms were too.

>>3404118
can't say i don't like it

Why does this song make me want to do gif related?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPMVyp7LwIo

>>3404118
what in particular are you commenting on

>>3404157
your face.

>>3404157

The only things of note in that screenshot that I notice are the dual-wielded super shotguns and the sky that happens to be showing off the limitations of the 256 color palette.
I assume that Anon's commenting on the super shotguns, specifically. Because dual-wielding double-barreled shotguns that are OP enough alone is remarkably silly.

>>3404157
You can fire double barrel twice with each shot taking 2 ammo.
It's basically armor-piercing twin quad shotguns

>>3404164
>twin quad
really?

>>3404171
Count this shit. Left is ssg fired without double trouble and right is with.

>>3404202
I mean that, is it really twin quad when it's just 2 double barrels?

>>3404203
Yeah, it does not change graphics for some reason.

Mappers.

How do maps "come" to you?

Do you have some kind of process or anything like that?

Because with me that shit just appears randomly, usually when I'm focusing on study work or the like is when I have the greatest flashes of inspiration, strangely.

>>3404219
I've watched people map before, most recently Joel, and they just figure things out as they go, in fact they often decide later on to go back and change something they did.

>>3404219
>How do maps "come" to you?

I personally set out bait made of Cacodemon meat and hope a map bites

>>3404219
I just push buttons to see what happens.

>>3404219
write those ideas down and keep studying and working

shit, just study and work and shit to brainstorm ideas and get things done at the same time, it's perfect

Why are barons and their pallet swaps so boring to fight?

>>3404257
Because they're basically just imps with higher health pools and more damaging projectiles?

>>3404257
Bad level design.

in the new clams casino album, lil b talks about being on 32 levels

most people only ever get 30 levels, but lil b gets to both secret levels, and has a fuller, richer life because of it

it changed the whole game, the extra lore from the wolfenstein cameos

>>3404219
I try to start with a general theme like "cramped ducts" or "city" or "incomprehensible hell map"

Then I just start with the first room/area, place the player starts and go from there. Its a very linear process. Just keep expanding on the map, adding details, adding new areas, planning out key and switch shit.

I really need to get into the habit of planning a bit more, like having the exit right in front of you at the start of the map but you dont even know it (or just can't get to it)

Sometimes I come up with cool ideas halfway through like "I should have a section where the players has to dodge imp fireballs in a narrow corridor and the only places to dodge into have damaging floors if you dodge in too far..."
but that only really happens once or twice per map.

Sometimes I think about my current map while I'm going to sleep, and try to come up with cool ideas, or imagine where the current dead ends might lead to, or how things might connect to each other.

>>3401136
THT Threnody (the Ty Halderman Tribute project) has released https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/thtthren

>when a zombieman misses you but you're standing completely still without partial invisibility

>>3403958
More features/options for linedefs, sectors, and things for mapping.

>>3403454
This shit is still the best remix of DOOM songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h94w624s0F4

Have any of you beaten any official Doom games on Nightmare? Without savescumming, death at best meaning redoing the current level you're on.

>>3404292
Also include MAPINFO for partial support of Cluster definitions, Episode definitions, and Map definitions (Generally the stuff thats used in Valiant, and Ancient Aliens thats not available in prboom+). Not full support, so as to not allow Hexen-isms like Hubs.

>>3404305
My dad did.

Am I the only person thinks Romero's new map is shit

>>3404305
I have. Doom babbies can't.

>tfw no sentry bot bros

>>3404314
wrong board.

>doom shitters
:>)

>>3404284
missing is part of hitscanning. There's always a chance to miss

>>3404321
Well, we shit out good content on a daily basis

I made mine a long time ago, but you should start backing up what you can from realm667

>captcha: traffico vietato

>>3404357
why?

>>3404283
>joe-ilya map
>somehow not shit
>wondering how this is even possible
>realise theres another name in the credit
>Chris Hansen

>>3404219
I start by creating the most detailed/interesting square room I can think of and then go from there.

Replaying Doom 2 I'm starting to pay attention to who actually designed each map and I realize that the same person does all the maps I dislike. And that he did half of all the maps in the game.

I'm guessing its because his maps are all have really boring, simplistic architecture that he was able to crank them out, huh?

>>3404219
I get a concept in mind. "Lab where spooky stuff happened" and maybe one or two things I want to happen in the level "The player climbs a big hill / goes through winding dark tunnels / has to go outside over a roof area". Then I open up the map editor and just start drawing out random rooms, taking inspiration from other maps where required. Gradually the basic layout take shape, even if it has little resemblance to what I originally set out to do.

In my most recent map, I wanted to do a homage to e1m4. So I knew I had to have some cramped areas (I decided they'd be maintenance tunnels), dark central command room where they player would have to fight a bunch of monsters to get a key, and something vaguely similar to the big open room at the start of e1m4. After that I just started drawing shit almost at random trying to keep an "invaded command" theme in mind.

>>3404416
I'm guessing you're talking about Sandy Petersen? He made some decent levels in Doom 1 and then went full retard in Doom 2. Maybe it's because he had help making the levels in Doom 1 so they were able to filter out his shitty ideas. Where as in Doom 2 he was all by himself which caused him to create all those bad levels.

>>3404441
Yeah, it's like all of these are minimal effort maps that he must have just sped out as quick as possible to pad out to 32 on whatever Romero and McGee couldn't finish in time.

>>3404450
Shit like The Pit with the incredibly simple sector/texture work is what brings Doom 2 lower then Doom 1 map design wise. Shit feels too big and empty with not enough natural direction.

>>3404450
His Quake 1 levels are even worse. Somebody should have banned him from using those spawn enemies. He went way too overboard with those enemies.

>Oh hey you're low on health with no medkits anywhere? Let me put in 5 spawns here :^)

>>3404118
Could be Stupider.

>>3404471
Episode 4 is definitely the low point of the original Quake. Levels that are huge and empty, just like his Doom 2 levels. Also Spawns are literally the worst enemy ever made. Fuck those fucking blobs to hell.

>>3404471
lol you sound bad

you being ass != bad level design

>>3404461
It really feels like either he didn't care or was pressed for time. The basics of these maps aren't too bad, they just need a little more effort or an editor.

>>3404473
>Episode 4 is definitely the low point of the original Quake
I disagree, its one of the most intense and darkest episodes. You gotta expect some clusterfuck mazes full of evil ass enemies for the last episode, and it delivers.

I mean the last episode should be a challenge, even if you can choose to play the episodes in any order you like.

>>3404487
Well it's fine if you like them, I just can't stand them. I like Romero's episode the most.

>>3404490
E4M8 the secret level is pretty shite though

>>3404472
add the possessed floating 16 barrelled shotgun to it too
when you absolutely need to not have shells anymore

>>3404514
speaking of
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vfXejT5vi4s

somebody has to make this

>>3404514
What about two possessed flying quadshotguns while wielding two automatic two-barreled shotguns?

Why has no one made a 2000AD wad?

>>3404601
You will still find more shells than you can use.

>>3404624
Not always the case. I've ran out of ammo on a few wads and had to rely on fists and magic.
Which admittedly is not a big deal, since the magic is really fun to use.

Whatever happened to GLOOME?
Did that just stall out completely?

>>3404661

GLOOME is dead.

>>3404661
still has enough features to make a game at least

>>3404661
marrub stopped working on it

>>3404479
you should properly get a proper grasp for the english language before you set out to shitpost senpai

Not sure if you guys are interested, but a collectors Doomguy figurine just got revealed.
Trigger Warning: It's DOOM '16 guy.

http://store.bethsoft.com/doom-marine-16th-scale-collectible-exclusive-edition.html

>playing Scourge of Armagon
>shoot Jesus mural hoping to find a secret
>instead it shoots lightning and it nearly kills me
Thanks, Jesus.

copy, paste, stretch, rotate, mirror
who would ever think this looks good

>>3404801

Fucking FINALLY!

It was supposed to be out in fucking June!

>>3404801
>Your entire order will be held until this product becomes available. The current estimated ship date is 2nd Quarter 2017.

>>3404815

also I just realized they intentionally delayed the release for Quakecon. Cheap jerks.

>>3404810
What's that from?

>>3404837
found it while googling images of the D4 chaingun

>>3404801
>trigger warning
it's literally one faggot moaning time and over lol

>>3404835
zewimax likes his petty release dates
look what happened with skyrim "kek 111111" just to ship an unfinished game

>>3404808
do not defy god.

>>3404808

>Shooting Jesus

dude why, he's a bro

>>3404801
Would prefer classic Doomguy, but '16 is okay I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UhHcEiegb8

Hoo boy

There's a rumor in some private channels that Doom 4's megatexture format is already cracked, but Zenimax hit iOrange with a C&D.

Does anyone know more?

>>3404939
oh hey look, it's q3dm6

literally no one is surprised

>>3404939
i have satellite internet, someone tell me if it's good

>>3404949

Now that it's actually fucking gameplay instead of a pre-rendered cutscene, gameplay looks neat.
Graphics still look like desaturated overly-busy arse where you can't tell Jack from Jack's Pet Rock.

>>3404939
I like it. just gonna let that out before the hatewagon kicks in to religiously shatter it in shitposts.

>>3404954
did they fix ranger

>>3404957
> before the hatewagon kicks in to religiously shatter it in shitposts.

Fuck off. And this is coming from someone who thought it looked neat.

>>3404958

I dunno, I couldn't fucking make him out.

they blurred ranger like bigfoot

>>3401136
Noob mapmaker anon here with an update on my Episode 1 replacement.

I'm the anon who made Spaceport, Nukage Tunnels, and a couple others. I've just finished e1m1 to e1m4, as well as the secret level. I've decided to do a full blown vanilla e1 replacement. Currently called "Knee Deep Again".

http://www.mediafire.com/download/u1dec5iwynr6lm9/Knee_Deep_Again.wad

You can check it out here. These are my very first maps, and they're made to fairly strict vanilla rules.

I hope you have fun. All feedback welcome.

>>3404959
fuck off, and this is coming from someone who wants to make fun of you for being a retard.

>>3404939
not retro, please delete. don't want another 2+ years of speculation over an upcoming title on /vr/.

>>3404959
>baaaw I got called out ;-;
cry more

>>3404957
>>3404969
b8

>>3404969

Fuck off

I don't have an agenda, I just wanted to join in on the chain of replies so I don't feel left out.

>>3404968
Oh, if this goes in the news section, please note that I also did Processing Facility which this wad includes and improves, so the old link can be dropped.

Level list is currently:

>spaceport
>nukage tunnels
>processing facility
>(secret)excavation site
>security control

>>3404981
and who the fuck cares

fuck off

>>3404981
Fuck off. onto my bed, clothes off, and put those cuffs on tight

>>3404020
>>3403842
why would you ever want to replicate any chaingun that isn't the wolf3d chaingun?

so satisfying

>>3404980
lol go back

>>3404990
I open the freezer and offer you a Papa Pop to stay cool.

>>3404939
It doesn't have the moody oppressive atmosphere of Quake. It's just Quake 3 meets Overwatch. I'm sure lots of people will like it, but I'd rather get a slick Quake 1 soft reboot like Doom had.

I guess they're just too absorbed in the brilliant success of Quake 3 to remember the incredible influence Quake had. Holy shit that single player is still great today even with shitty / non-existent bosses.

>>3404939
How is this /vr/?

>>3404985
>>3404968
God damn it I just had to post my news in the middle of a raging shitfest.

>>3404998

It's on-topic in the context of the thread, like discussing modern games made in GZDoom, or discussing the modernvanias in the CastleVania thread, or new DreamCast shmups in the shmup thread before the shmup threads turned to shit, or talking about GBA games in /rhg/ before autism.

>>3405002
>, like discussing modern games made in GZDoom,
But that's still Doom, just mods. Unlike a completely new commercial Quake game.

>>3405002
doom4 proved otherwise
upcoming titles are not retro

>>3405007
>But that's still Doom

Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnope. Something like Adventures of Square is not Doom.

And even if you REALLY want to play that card and say that it's still Doom because of the GZDoom engine, even though the engine holds barely any similarity to the base now, there's still that we're fine discussing the new Shadow Warrior, the new RotT, and now the new Doom.

Drawing enemy sprites takes much longer than I liked. Also it kind of looks like poop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jpoRp2EE_0

>>3405010
pretty sure doom 4 was deleted because of all of the shitflinging people did during dev

we are fine discussing doom 4 now, and have several times already

>>3405014
>we are fine discussing doom 4 now, and have several times already
really? i hadn't noticed.

>>3404996
>It's just Quake 3 meets Overwatch
ah, there we go

embrace for more of this until the game is actually out

>>3405012
>Something like Adventures of Square is not Doom.
It's a mod based on Doom so yes it is. Quake Guardians is not.
>there's still that we're fine
We're not though, people not knowing and not getting reprimanded is another thing. Earlier in this thread someone talked about Doom 3 and in the previous one someone did with Doom 4, both times they were called out for being in the wrong board.

>>3405014
>we are fine discussing doom 4 now,
No we're not.

>>3405019
>It's a mod based on Doom so yes it is
No it isn't.
Adventures of Square is completely standalone and does not require Doom to run at all. You don't need Doom. It's not a mod.

And I'm pretty sure you already know this and are just trying to split hairs for the sake of splitting hairs.

>>3405020
yes we are

>>3405013
Those enemies kind of remind me of pic related

>>3405019
>>Something like Adventures of Square is not Doom.
>It's a mod based on Doom so yes it is.
it's all new so it's more like a new game using the doom engine, like strife isn't doom.

>>3405012
>now the new Doom.
There was new Doom discussion either this thread or last and it got deleted. No rupees for you today, Bethesda shill.

>>3405027
>>3405019