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3395607 No.3395607 [Reply] [Original]

/vr/, PLEASE help me find the best crt tv money can get. be it a monitor or an actual tv.

>> No.3395612

Any name-brand TV on the side of the curb.

>> No.3395614

Sony PVM. Look on craigslist or ebay for PVMs. Bigger ones are expensive but if money's no object, no big deal.

Honestly though just a good set from a reputable brand (Sony, Panasonic, JVC, etc) is more than enough.

>> No.3395615

>>3395614
I'm kinda looking for one with a headphone jack and three composite cable outputs. Sharp contrast is a plus too btw

>> No.3395627
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>>3395615
>headphone jack
Just get one of these.

>three composite cable outputs
Most TVs have two sets on the back, one set on the front. It's not hard to find ones with even more than that. I'd be more concerned with an S-video input.

>sharp contrast
All reputable brands are sharp and clear, just don't get some made up brand like Panobo or whatever and you're fine.

>> No.3395629

people always say pvms, but the problem with them is that they are small. the image quality is unmatched, but huge pvms don't exist.
there are some home crts that go all the up to 60 inches, but they are rare.
My favorite common tv is the sony wega 32 inches with component video.
it's nice because you can always convert rgb to component.

>> No.3395842

>>3395627
uh what's that called? and sorry, but what needs a s video input?

also is this tv good?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/381713926619?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true

>> No.3395862
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BVMs are better than PVMs. Look for a BVM with as many expansion boards for various inputs as possible and get one that is capable of doing 1080i.

If you want something exclusively for progressive scan signals e.g. if you're only ever going to be emulating then get a large wide screen VGA monitor like a Sony FW900.

JVC and Mitsubishi also make similar monitors and don't suffer the Trinitron tax that's starting to develop.

>> No.3395893

>JVC and Mitsubishi also make similar monitors and don't suffer the Trinitron tax that's starting to develop.

JVC DT-Vs are about as expensive as multiformat BVMs and don't have any stock input. RGB card for them cost +$100 alone.

Mitsu are still super expensive on their size alone.

>> No.3395915

>>3395842
That's the realm of what we're talking about. That one's just 13" though, so might not be optimal for a couch set up. How big you need? Largest PVM I've seen is 27".

>> No.3395920

>>3395915
if you want bigger than 27" (4/3) you need to look for NEC and Mitsus

>> No.3395940
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>>3395629
There are five of those 32" models on my local Craigslist right now, all super cheap. I would pick one up myself, but I have the 27" version of the same model and my room is small.

>> No.3395969

>>3395842
> Best CRT money can buy

http://www.broadcaststore.com/store/model_detail.cfm?id=670625

>http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/381713926619?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true

You're close, but that one is a little expensive for what it is. For $300 shipped you can find 13"/14" multiformat monitors, which can display 240p as well as 480p (and up), making them extra comfy for 6th gen or old PC stuff as well as retro.

...hmm we really need to know more about what systems you will be playing, and what cables you'll be using. Composite is a very low quality signal, there's a reason us true memers use RGB

>> No.3395978

>>3395629
I got a huge sony wega tv in the barn that does component and 720p/1080i. It is amazing but I don't have room in my bedroom when I moved in with my folks. Man... That TV is fucking awesome for last gen and retro games. Perfect picture, color, and sound. I even got the original stand it comes with it. I would like to sell it but I don't think anyone in my area would really appreciate it.

>> No.3395979

>>3395969
>$14,750.00

Yeah.. no thanks. And uh mind posting any examples? Yeah I wanted to get one for SNES and Sega Genesis all the way upto sixth gen. But mostly sixth gen, the gamecube and ps2. Can I use RGB with a GC?

>> No.3395983

>>3395915
13" is fine. I don't want anything too big as I already have a HDTV set up in my room. Just something small and comfy I can use for retro games

>> No.3395987

>>3395979

The main things that will increase the price are

- size
- quality of input formats (s-video, component, rgb etc)
-"multiformat" (can sync to 480p and up)
- condition

EXAMPLES:

Personally I am very happy with my multiformat PVM-20L5. I paid $800 on ebay for one in good quality that had recently been calibrated. I paid $200 on ebay for a multiformat PVM-14L5 with slight screen burn.

Both of those take composite, s-video, component, and RGB, and can sync to old 240p/480i stuff as well as 480p, 720p, and 1080i.

I also paid $50 for a 12" old BVM-1201 that popped up on craigslist. It only does composite and RGB at 480i.

Give us an overall budget and how much you care about those attributes I listed above.

>> No.3396005

>>3395983

>13" is fine
>needs to look good for 6th gen

PVM-14L5 or BVM-D14H5U

http://www.ebay.com/itm222185672789 is pretty bitchin if you're willing to go balls out with RGB or component only. This one has the RGB/component input card already installed, they're usually ~$100 if you have to buy them separately. You can buy an input card for composite and S-Video but again it will probably cost you $60-$100 on its own.

PVM-14L5's are also nice and come up pretty often. There's only one on ebay right now, but it doesn't seem like a great value. They're nice because they include all the inputs for composite, s-video, component, and RGB all built-in so you don't have to mess with input cards.

If you don't need 480p, there are a lot more options.

>> No.3396007
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3396007

Why are you guys spending so much money on CRTs? I can go on craigslist or go to the electronics recycling center and literally get one for free

>> No.3396010

>>3395987
Fucking hell why do the decent ones have to cost so much? Anyway yeah, I'm only willing to fork over a couple hundred for this. The one I listed might be the one I'll get. How would I go about and use a headphone with it btw?

>> No.3396012

>>3396007

>all CRTs are created equal

I have a decent job, >nogf, and I enjoy good picture quality

>> No.3396015

>>3396005
ahh link's dead. And guys, I'll just mainly be using a gamecube. I looked at the TV, how are the component cables going to work for this?

>> No.3396016

>>3396015
this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-BVM-D14H5U-14-HR-Trinitron-Color-Video-Monitor-HD-SDI-TV-Signal-129X-142HD-/222185672789?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368

>> No.3396024

>>3396012
there are plenty of high quality crts out there for $0

i have a lot of money too, but i still see no reason to pay for something i can get for free

>> No.3396032

>>3396010

Well, you could have got this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/201630141220 , except that someone (me) just bought it. Each of those input cards is worth $100 on their own, so it's a gamble on the tube (burn in, hours, screen scratches) but worst case I can still get my money back/use the cards in my other PVM/BVMs.

That one you linked earlier looks like a fine set. It is a bit overpriced though, seeing as how it only does 240p/480i and will not do 480p.

For the same price you could get this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/201629514422 and this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/182198682050 which together will allow you to input all the same major analog formats as the one you posted (composite. s-vid, component, RGB), but will also allow you to play in crisp 480p with no lag for 6th gen games. 480p support means you can also plug in a computer at 640x480p for some old school PC games if you get the right adapter and cables.

SOUND:

The good monitors (PVM) typically include one absolute DOGSHIT speaker, just for the bare minimum if you're using it for some type of film editing. The best monitors (BVMs) typically don't include any speakers at all.

Here's my setup

Plug game console RCA cords into (dual female RCA -> stereo female 3.5mm adapter) -> 3.5mm 'aux' cord -> 2.1 magnetically shielded computer speakers. The computer speakers have a wired remote volume control that also has a headphone jack.

>> No.3396037

>>3396015

>gamecube

Get a gamecube-compatible wii. Original Wiis contain all the GC circuitry so it's not emulation of anything, the only thing you miss out on is the GB Player.

The Wii component cables are only $5, third party ones work fine. GC cables are retarded priced since they have un-chinkable circuitry in the cable and are now literally $200. Added bonus with the Wii is you can play all kinds of old emulators in proper 240p (native scanlines).

>how to connect

http://www.ebay.com/itm/182172708380

>> No.3396042

>>3396037
The wii's video output is objectively inferior to the gamecubes, also the gameboy player is kind of a big deal for many people, certainly I find it essential.

>> No.3396048

>>3396024
please do send a example

>> No.3396053

>>3396042

I've heard this a few times. I haven't noticed any artifacts while playing, but I don't have the component cables to compare it to. Got some A/B comparisons on a professional monitor for me?

(Hi, were is the proofs)

>> No.3396061

>>3396053
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=51789

>> No.3396063

>>3396032

Whoops, it looks like that one

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201629514422

already has a card (the 27T) that will support composite and S-video inputs, you'll just need an S-video -> dual RCA adapter (then two RCA->BNC adapters). That card I linked isn't compatible anyways, it's for the H series.

That one is a great deal, OP. If you're looking to buy something NOW then that's a good one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201629514422

Else just pick up a whatever $30 CRT, it will still look good if you've been playing LCDs. Then keep doing research and hunt for deals so you'll be ready to strike when you build up your CRT tolerance and need a bigger hit to feel alive again.

>> No.3396065

>>3395842
>what needs a s video input?
Nothing needs it, it's just higher quality than composite. Although if you've got money to blow might as well use SCART and a Framemeister.

>> No.3396082

>>3396037
>The Wii component cables are only $5, third party ones work fine.
No, they look line vaseline-smear on a high-TVL tube. Get some good ones and marvel at the difference.

>> No.3396083

>>3396063

Lol, nvm it looks like the G series isn't multiformat after all. I guess this is a good reminder to do your own research or whatever and not trust internet strangers.

Basically keep an eye out for PVM-14L5's, or BVM-D14H5U's with appropriate input cards. Remember you can buy the input cards separately, but they're $100.

Toodle-oo

>> No.3396127
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>>3395940
This, 32-inch SD WEGA with component and s-video inputs is the cheapest/biggest/best/easiest to find good crt. You can find these at almost any Goodwill or Value Village, heavy as shit though

>> No.3396129
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3396129

And big, fat scanliiiiiiiines!

>> No.3396154
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3396154

Guys, there's this guy in my city selling a 36'' Sony Trinitron for R$300 (roughly $100), should I get it?
I'm not sure about the video outputs, but I assume it has component and s-video.

>> No.3396165
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3396165

I want this.

>> No.3396282

>>3395612
Ain't that the truth. I've seen some real nice ones out there. Bet you most of them work perfectly too, but I can't be bothered to grab one. I've already got quite a nice Toshiba flat screen CRT too.

>> No.3396294

>>3395612
This.. then if you actually care enough you can buy a better model to jerk off on here and call people idiots

>> No.3396295

>>3396129
That's a wicked picture! I just set it as my wallpaper.

>> No.3396332
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3396332

>>3395607

the one and only FW900

I got mine from the woods, no kid

>> No.3396340

>>3396332
Please fuck off with that shit

>> No.3396512
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3396512

>>3396340
>>3396340

no I really found it in the woods, works great
although have no idea about CRTs so dont
know how to calibrate this beast, but when I tried gaming on it it blowed me away out of the window

>> No.3396719

>>3396332
>>3396512

how can I find a good CRT in the woods ??

>> No.3396738

>>3396719
Ask Link.

>> No.3396769

>>3396719
>>3396738


ITS ALMOST LIKE CHEATING

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>>3396154
I've heard there are problems with most HDCRTs undesirably upscaling 240p signals but I've never owned one so I don't know how bad it is.

>>3396332
How the fuck do you even. There's one of these pretty nearby on Craigslist although it says it has "brightness problems" but otherwise works fine. I'd sure as hell pick it up if I had the spare burger bucks but times are tight right now.

>> No.3396920

>>3396910
"brightness problems" sounds like a G2 adjustment is needed. Pretty common on FD Trinitrons and fairly easy to do once you get WinDAS set up.

Good bargaining point though. Tell the seller it's only good for parts and score a bargain.

>> No.3396925

>>3396910
>I've heard there are problems with most HDCRTs undesirably upscaling 240p signals but I've never owned one so I don't know how bad it is.
It's not bad but it's not as good as SD CRTs for 240p/480i content. Light Gun games don't work on HD CRTs either. It's common knowledge to not use HD CRTs for /vr/ consoles.

>> No.3396941

>>3396925
> It's common knowledge to not use HD CRTs for /vr/ consoles.
No it isnt.
Because HD CRTs are one in a mil- no, one in a billion.

>> No.3396950

>>3395607
Just don't fall for the PVMeme whatever you do.
>>3395978
>That TV is fucking awesome for last gen and retro games
HD CRT's are rubbish for retro.
>>3396007
Yeah retards will spend absurd amounts of money on their tiny 9 inch broadcast monitors, while normal people can get a nice big SDTV (that actually has better image quality for 2d games) for peanuts.

>> No.3397019

>>3396048
Not him but I got one of the bigger trinitrons for free cause an old lady wanted it out of her basement. Craigslist. CRTs aren't necessary for me to enjoy the game, I'm fine with my hdtv, but it was free and it does look better for 6th gen and back

>> No.3397034

>>3395629
>there are some home crts that go all the up to 60 inches
yeah but those are widescreen hdcrt's the worst possible crt for retro gaming.

The biggest sd crt's were mitsubishi megaview 40" sets. Sony had a multiscan 43" pvm. but they are most likely extinct.
>>3396910
it interprits 240p as 480i, it's ugly, interlaced and has no scanlines.
>>3396941
I see them all the time.

Best a resonable amount of money can buy right now is a makvision tri mode in a custom case

http://shop.xgaming.com/products/tri-mode-crt-arcade-monitor

>> No.3397037
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3397037

>>3397034

>> No.3397061

Sony Trinitron 2006. Sadly my dad sold ours. while we had it i had a super nes, gamecube, and a vcr hooked up to the same tv.

>> No.3397067

>>3395614
>i swallowed the PVM meme hook line and sinker

>> No.3397070

>>3396042
>>3396061
>Gamecube + complete GB player + 480p cable = $300
>Wii + emulators = $30
Maybe I'm just not enough of a Nintendrone to drop the price of a PCE-CD console on some shit so that playing my GBA games on TV suffers 1% less slowdown and the color saturation rate is half a frame more intense, which can literally be adjusted for in your display in five seconds anyway. This reminds me of the people with trace-rebuilt SNES Jr's who spend more time justifying the time and energy over just using a 1chip

I'm even a pretty serious hardware collector and I haven't pursued progressive scan GC cables.

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>>3396910

YEA "!

It works perfect, has perfect geometry, focus is great, colors also seem good, only thing is I haven't calibrated it, dont know if it need windas for that but ok,the AG coating is still intact and in good shape

all /vr/ fags probably busting there nuts over this ,thank good I found it when I did cause hour later it would thunderstorm and the thing would be wet and ruined

still haven't played CS 1.6 on it, looking forward to that moment, gonna pown all the noobs which will complain about lag but in reality their shitty ips/lcd with input lag will fuck there gameplay !

>> No.3397179

>>3396910

>"brightness problems"

that can indicate a lot of problems either flyback (HV problems) or any other components on the HV board or controller board or the tube itself, would need to specify more of how its affecting it but it could be anything really so its probably junk

spare parts are non-existing for these

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>>3397165
we're not, we know you're full of shit. here's what a real found crt looks like

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>>3397183

haa ya got me :D

Well actually payed 100 euro for it and is a mind blower, not calibrated but looks mint

>> No.3397219

I love retro games. But I haven't gone much past emulating and the PS1.

Reading this thread, everybody is talking about CRT TV's being the ultimate. I have owned several quality Rear projection TV's. If I ran a rear projection TV, would that work as good as a CRT? I know that DLP or Rear projection does not provide the same quality in a full sun light. I also know the blacks are only as good how dark the screen can get.

So assuming I am looking local (town of 30K) I won't have many options. Currently I own a Sony 40" DLP TV which works decent.

>> No.3397259
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Anyone ever seen anything like this before? It's a Sony, has handles and no built in speakers. Is it a CRT TV?

>> No.3397269

>>3395607
NEC XP37 Xtra

Any other answer is wrong.

>> No.3397348
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>>3396032
>Here's my setup
>Plug game console RCA cords into (dual female RCA -> stereo female 3.5mm adapter) -> 3.5mm 'aux' cord -> 2.1 magnetically shielded computer speakers. The computer speakers have a wired remote volume control that also has a headphone jack.

Computer speakers are considered garbage by audiophiles. If you are serious about sound quality use real speakers+amp or a decent (>$100 USD) headphones.
Pic related shows respectable headphone brands. Buy them online or craigslist. Your local Radio Shack or Best Buy will only have nigger or gaymer headphones.

>> No.3397362

>>3397348
Is that pic from /mu/? Anymore?

>> No.3397415

>>3397219
pvm/bvm
15khz crt pc monitor
cheap or free decent crt tv
old crt pc monitor @ 640x480 with scanlines
hd-crt
flat pc monitor
clip on console screen
flat tv
projection tv
plugged into a game gear tv tuner.

>> No.3397459

>>3396127
160+ lbs for that pig

Love it

>> No.3397460

>>3396127
>heavy as shit though

do
you
even
lift

>> No.3397571

>>3397415
Can you expand "flat TV" into LCD, Plasma, and OLED?

Are projection TVs really worse than all those?

>> No.3397678

>>3397415

So I need to track down a pvm/bvm?

What makes a "decent" CRT screen? And why are scan lines considered so important?

>> No.3397689
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>>3397678

Main things:

>"slot mask" vs. "aperture grille". See pic related. Most people think aperture grille looks better, myself included. Shadow Mask/Dot Mask is more of a computer VGA monitor kind of thing. "Trinitron" is Sony's trademark name for their aperture grille CRTs, but other manufacturers make aperture grille masks too.

Consumer "HD CRTs" actually use a laggy internal scaler (about two frames, ~33 ms) and upconvert everything to 1080i. This destroys scanlines. These sets are able to take "HD" signals as input, at the cost of destroying your scanlines and adding lag for 240p/480i signals. Supposedly the lag is decreased/nonexistent for "HD resolutions", though I can't verify.

Professional "multiscan" monitors can sync to 240p as well as 480p and up with no lag.

If you see scanlines, you know for sure your set isn't adding lag. Also many people like them in their own right.

Convergence, Color depth, deep blacks, white balance, input formats. TVL (effective resolution) make for a good CRT screen. Yes, you need to track down a ~2000ish, top-end PVM or BVM if you want top quality. The tubes got sharper and sharper over time, and tubes with less hours on them look better so newer is better. If you have 10k to burn you can even still get a brand new monitor from Ikegami.

>> No.3397723

I once found a high end 90's sony TV that i found out could be modded to have a SCART input but the geometry was so fucked up i couldnt fix it.

Was a shame. it had a subwoofer built in to it and everything.

>> No.3397737

>>3397689

Ok. Well I have a variety of weird contacts. I will keep my eyes open for a PVM/BVM TV. But I won't pass over a Trinitron. I already have a Wega DLP. I am looking at a 58" rear projection Sony for 20$.

>> No.3397808

>>3397259
The third picture they uploaded shows a top-down view of that Sony which reveals it is not nearly deep enough to be a CRT.

That's looks like an old Sony plasma, possibly the FWD-50PX2 according to a little Googling.

>> No.3397913 [DELETED] 

>>3396512
You just stole some hobos only way to play his video games :(

>> No.3398027

>>3397259
>>3397808
https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/ele/5710032059.html

McDonoughfag here, was just looking at it too. Agree, gotta be a 50PX2.

While it's bad for retro, how would a plasma like that compare to an HDCRT for displaying 6th and 7th gen games?

>> No.3398183

>>3397067
Totally, that's why I recommended he just get a good consumer set at the end.

>> No.3398895

>>3398027
I like plasma over LCD for movies and TV but don't have a very close familiarity with the subject overall. However, I do have a few friends who swear by plasma for gaming--one even uses it for /vr/-related. I was reading some mixed reviews about that particular model while googling the TV, but if it works well it would probably be worth getting for the price, and there are enough plasma fans out there that you should be able to get rid of it quickly and get your money back if you properly relist it in the event you don't like it. Be aware though, that plasma can be very tough on the electricity bill.

>> No.3398918

>>3397259

fuck the bigscreen, i want the POLAR BEAR TV

>> No.3398958
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3398958

Spotted this locally. Good price, lads?

>> No.3399079

>>3398958
I only paid $10 for my PVM-14M2U

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>>3398958

>the wah they were meant to be played

>> No.3399130

>>3398958
I'd buy it. Offer him $75.

>> No.3399136

>>3398958
>>3399130
Ditto $75 but id pay $100 for it.

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3399152

>>3395607
If not a PVM/BVM, your best bet is a KV27FV310. Barring that, an FV300. I've heard some great stuff about high end early-2000s JVC and Toshibas, but I haven't seen them myself to really add anything helpful to the conversation. Plus, I just love the way Sony handles image quality in general. Stay away from 480p CRTs for the most part, and watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAi8AVj9GV8

I hope that helps, anon!

>> No.3399159

>>3396154
Nope. Not for anything pre-6th gen, anyway.

>> No.3399171

>>3399152
The geometry issues always prevent me from switching to a 200x Trinitron. I'm sticking with my early 90s xbr.

>> No.3399631

>>3397348

>you need 120 db dynamic range to enjoy 8-bit square waves

>> No.3399649

>>3395607
What are you looking to play? If you're willing to spend the money, why not just buy a Framemeister and play on an HDTV? You can add scanlines to simulate playing on a CRTV.

>> No.3399663

>>3396042
I'm happy with playing my GC games on Wii and my GBA games on my DS Lite. I think the GBA Player would be a big deal to someone who doesn't like handheld gaming, but I'm fine with it.

>> No.3400051

>>3396042
>The wii's video output is objectively inferior to the gamecubes

Yeah, but not $300 inferior. I'll wait for GC Video.

>> No.3400058

>>3400051
GC Video has been out for a while. You mean the HDMI Plug-n-Play cables?

>> No.3400073

>>3400058
I know the schematics and kits have been out, but ain't no way am I fucking with a soldering iron on my consoles. I will break everything. Trust me. I just want someone to sell me a cheaper solution than OEM component cables. If it's the HDMI solution, great. If not, I'll figure something out. Until then, I can live with playing GC games on a Wii. I rarely play my GC anyway.

>> No.3400081

>>3400073
There are mod services for installing GC Video if you don't want to do it yourself. The HDMI molding is pretty bad though. Wait a few years for the factory finished look to be perfected or wait a few months for the GameCube HDMI cables.

>> No.3400820

What about GCN VGA cables instead of HDMI

I want my fucking no input lag with vga

ree

>> No.3400843

>>3400820
There's no way to force the system to boot directly and immediately into progressive scan mode, but GCVideo Lite in the proper configuration is perfectly capable of outputting an Analog RGB signal in place of the standard YPbPr, and as such VGA(RGBHV).

>> No.3401051

What's a good CRT size for a small sized room? I want it to be view-able from a reasonable distance but don't want a huge clutter in my office space.

>> No.3401060

>>3401051
Depends on how far away you are from the TV. I prefer 19 to 25" CRTs because I like being up close like when I was a kid.

>> No.3401061

>>3401051
Define a reasonable distance. Will there be multiplayer?

>> No.3401067

>>3401061
Not often, but maybe occasionally.

>>3401060
I think a 20" sounds about right. Thanks.

>> No.3401071

>>3401051
>>3401060
>>3401061
Are WEGA's bad? I'm going to be playing mostly Sega Genesis and playstation one.

>> No.3401080

>>3401067
A 20'' set is pretty decent up to 5 or 6 feet back, which should be more than enough if it's being used in a small room.

>>3401071
Sony's FD/WEGA sets are plentiful, decent, and offer a good number of inputs.
All flat sets can have some peculiarities and issues with horizontal linearity, but in most cases they aren't too terrible. Just make sure you test it out a bit before you settle on one.

>> No.3401252

>>3400843
>no way to force direct boot
not a problem

>GCVideo Lite
I googled that.
So I have to put it together myself? I don't own a chip manufacturing plant.

>> No.3401329

>>3401252
>I don't own a chip manufacturing plant.
Google it more. It's done using an FPGA.

There are some plug-n-play versions coming out, but I believe they're focused more on HDMI than Component/VGA.

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3401486

>>3395607

In 1994, if you live in murrica, you had a regular ass tv. You likely needed a VCR in order to use the RCA cables that came with your snes.

>> No.3401504

Wii VGA faggot here

Is there a way to take a VGA signal and "disable" 15HZ signals (480i)?
The Wii outputs an interlaced frame every so often which fugs with some monitors. Is there a way to block this nonsense?
Without lag of course

>> No.3401516

>>3401504
Alternatively, is there some Component to VGA transcoder that
1. won't induce lag
2. won't pass through a 480i signal
?

That would accomplish the same thing I think

>> No.3403756

I have a sony trinitron kv20v10
Looks better than most tvs I've seen of the same size
It has component, composite, s-video, and f-type coaxial, no hdmi though
Maybe not the best, but it's been really good for 20 years

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3405036

>>3401486
I bought a 20" made-in-USA RCA with composite in 1990 using my Christmas paperboy tips and 26 years later it's the TV my son watches in his bedroom despite having spent 2010-2012 on my back porch partially exposed to the elements.

>> No.3405114

Alright guys I've decided to go with this one

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-Trinitron-PVM-14M2U-14-Color-Video-Monitor-4-3-CRT-for-RGB-Gaming-NICE-/152162796677

But I need some help with a few things;
1. How would I connect a GC to this? Like the composite cables? Still iffy on that, looking at the pictures, doesn't look like it'll go in. But if it does, please explain or if I need to buy something else
2. How would I go about using headphones on it? If there's a peripheral needed please cite which and how to use it
This one's a little off topic but I think you guys would know this one
How would I record gameplay off of it? Is it possible with this TV?

>> No.3405132

>>3395607
got my 38" Sony trinitron FD widescreen 1080i for 20$ on craigslist its the best money can buy

>> No.3405336

>>3405114
pls help

>> No.3405364

>>3405132
I just looked up one on craigslist its a 34' for $30. I might go pick it up. Hows the display for NES, SNES? And do light guns work well on them?

>> No.3405459

>>3405364
HD CRTs should not be used for retro (/vr/) consoles. 240p/480i is upscaled and Light Gun games do not work at all on them. Just get a Sony WEGA SD CRT or a PVM.

>> No.3405535

>>3405459
Thank you. I'll look for one at Goodwill or a local pawn shop.

>> No.3405539

>>3405535
Craigslist is also a great place. Many people are giving away their Sony WEGA SD CRTs for dirt cheap, or even free. Depending on where you live, there may also be PVM listings too.

>> No.3405550

>>3405539
I'll keep my eye on there as well. This is a TV i should use for anything up to the PS1/64 era? Post that anything else should be fine?

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3405580

>>3405539
Sony Trinitron KV-32FS100 CRT TV & Stand

Found this on Craigslist, this worth getting?

>> No.3405662

>>3405114
can someone help please?

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3405681

>>3405662
PVM-14M2U accepts Composite, S-Video, RGB, and Component.
S-Video is over it's standard mini-din; Composite, RGB, and Component are all via BNC connectors. RCA to BNC adapters are extremely cheap on ebay, and are all that would be needed to use a standard composite cable with the monitor.

That said, the GC supports better signals than composite. If you're in the US, that would be S-Video (or component if you feel like spending a stupid amount of money on the cable) or RGB if you're in Europe. If you're using a PVM, I'd definitely suggested you use one of these video signals instead; The jump in quality from composite to any of them is very sizable.

You could hypothetically get an adapter that will take the stereo RCA cables from a given system, and give you a female 3.5mm connector to attach headphones to, but this wouldn't work terribly well as you're dealing with line level audio with RCA and it ultimately needs to be amplified for headphones. A cheap headphone amp would get you around this issue.

>recording gameplay
All four inputs (2 composite, 1 s-video, 1 RGB/component) have loopthrough outputs, meaning that they'll pass along what ever video you're feeding in the one connector out the other. Connect a capture card to the input you wish to record, and go from there. Nothing more to it.

>> No.3405713

Is really hard to find those TV in the USA? I guess the third world has his advantages. Theres tons of those TV here and you can get them for less than 30 bucks in perfect shape.

>> No.3405714

>>3405713
It isnt hard to find them
people try to sell them for 20-100 bucks anyway

usually in shit condition

>> No.3405726

>>3405580
Could anyone answer if this is okay for pre 6 gen consoles?

>> No.3405728

>>3405726
If it's in decent condition, it'd make for quite a nice CRT for retro games.
Would be pretty nice for 6th gen too.

>> No.3405739

>>3405728
K its on Craigslist for $30 ill buy it. As long its good for lightguns and pre 6 gens.

>> No.3405807

>>3405728
I really hope its good with light guns, i have Time/Dino Crisis i want to play on it along with duck hunt.

Thank you for your responses Kya.

>> No.3405825

>>3405807
Just a reminder that it is just shy of 170bs, so you're gonna definitely need some help moving it. I'd personally suggest seeing if you could haggle them down a bit, but then again I'm just a cheap ass.

>>3405807
I admittedly haven't tried using a light gun on either of my flat faced Trinitrons, but it shouldn't give you too much trouble. Friendly reminder that if it doesn't seem to detect properly at first, raising the brightness of the screen a bit can do the trick.

>> No.3405828

>>3405825
I believe it weighs more than that, but ive got plenty of friends who game at my house when we grill out. The weight isnt an issue. Im going to call the guy now and set something up (Hawaii time its only 730 here) thank you for your input. I really appreciate it.

>> No.3405835

>>3405828
I wasn't counting the stand, so you're definitely right on that part. They do separate though thankfully.
Owner's manual puts the 32'' model at 165lbs.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/mscc0u4gro5qs1r/Sony+KV+27-36FS100-200+Owner%27s+Manual.pdf

And no problem, I like helping people with this sort of thing. Hope to see an in-use shot or two in the future.

>> No.3405848

>>3405835
Just got off the phone with him. We are set up for next Friday. Im the only one interested in it.