/vr/ - Retro Games

===NEWS===

[07-28] Anon maps release: Earth >>3389892
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ppw8sw3755ds4tl/Earth_100.wad

[07-25] Anon map release: Foundry >>3384954
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1NxOZlEf5aNOEx3YXh1TzEyeWs/view?usp=sharing

[07-22] Anon map release: Crunk Refinery >>3379784
http://basedhost.com/tmp/crunkrefinery.zip

[07-22] Andrew Hulshult releases Doom remake album
https://youtu.be/AGK1dr-Ql0w

[07-22] Interview with Romero on Quake
https://qexpo2016.com/tronyn-interviews-john-romero/

[07-22] Anon mod release: Spamcannon >>3377859
http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=spamcannon.pk3

[07-18] Anon mod release: Green Snek >>3371332
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nk49nzw50uje53s/Green%20Snek.pk3?dl=0

[07-18] Anon mod release: Behr's 2016 Color Trends palette >>3369936
http://www14.zippyshare.com/v/DlMdqClj/file.html
http://www96.zippyshare.com/v/RzdAB0Pi/file.html

[07-17] Anon mod update: Smooth Doom Weapons Only >>3368842
http://www.mediafire.com/download/trk7yt4v9egtrnv/SmoothDoom-WeaponsOnly.pk3

[07-16] Anon map release: TerrorTomb >>3365964
http://www.mediafire.com/download/vucmubygevbuzfe/TerrorTomb.wad

[07-16] Anon map WIP: Processing Facility >>3364032
http://www.mediafire.com/download/hu8t4389gm0byd1/Episode+1.wad

[07-15] Anon mod release: Batty >>3363190
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r33b58k999qtvmo/Batty.pk3?dl=0

[07-14] Brutal Doom Monsters Only 20b
http://www.mediafire.com/download/qqjmegwi5q17elp/bdmonsters20b.pk3

[07-12] Anon mod release: Fluffy >>3355450
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8hm07qpgtjujhy8/Fluffy.pk3?dl=0

[07-11] Anon mod release: Mai Shiranui skin (NSFW) >>3352872
http://www.mediafire.com/download/t200a5j4tnpmy45/MaiS.wad

[07-11] Anon map update: Leaden Skies >>3351941
https://a.pomf.cat/bewzzk.zip

[07-11] Anon maps release: Server Warehouse and Processing Plant >>3351874
http://www.mediafire.com/download/4lvn9tnyfkp7d1y/Earth_65.wad

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The modelers did give the demons very shapely butts didn't they?

>always thought Doomguy is 2 meters tall
>according to Q3 he is only 182cm

>>3390005
Adrian knew his asses.

What's the best gameplay mod for Quake 1?

>>3390017
Is there even any gameplay mods for Quake 1? All I can think of is the shit that Arcane Dimensions does with the shotguns.

>>3390017
Complete the game with axe and quad damage only

>>3390017
complete the game without strafe keys

>>3390017
complete the game at walking pace

>>3390017
Complete the game while blindfolded

>>3390017
Complete the game with DK Bongos

>>3390017
Complete the game without turning

>>3390017
Complete the game with 360 fov

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9v_XN7Wxh8

>>3390017
complete the game with your hands crossed over - left hand on mouse and right hand on keyboard

>>3390081
I do this for games that need rapid tapping on the left side

DOOM 64 Character I created that did not make the cut... Hell Hound

https://twitter.com/GPunchatz/status/689974649741000704

Doom 64 relics - Doom guy and Cyber Demon Chilling on my garage shelf this am.

https://twitter.com/GPunchatz/status/724255009127436288

This stuff needs to be 3D scanned and preserved.

>>3390116
So much was cut from Doom64 due to cartridge space. Thats the reason there's no reload animation for the SSG

Look what I cracked open for the first time in 20 years. The original mold for the Spider Boss of #DOOM

https://twitter.com/GPunchatz/status/723940892734709760

>>3390132
Jesus that looks horrifying

More #DOOM molds #mancubus #Stopmotion #ID

https://twitter.com/GPunchatz/status/723941549516582912

#DOOM #mancubus #Stopmotion #ID here is a video of the mold we created for the original blockbuster game

https://twitter.com/GPunchatz/status/723942309381869568

spider mastermind about to be shown to ID for the 1st time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8eJDA6sXQI

>>3390121
fucking nintendo, I also heard that back in the days of SNES and N64 they had carts with higher capacity but they forced devs to pay extra for them, they were really shitty to people back then

>Download WAD from doomworld
>You don't get Super Shotgun in first 2 minutes
>Shift-Delete that shit and rate it 1 star

>>3390293
Nice frogpost my dude.

https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/75673-gothic-99-released/2/

Any other good vintage flamewars?

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=53010

>>3390081
I'm actually an ambidextrous mouse user so this wouldn't really be a challenge.

>>3390321

What are some visually appealing wads?

I understand there aren't good nature ones per say, but what about just good looking in general?

had to resize this one

>>3390293
I've always had the belief that the SSG should not be found in the first level, unless its doing Plutonia or higher difficulty from the get go, or is in a well hidden secret.

>>3390309
>Gothic99 at least isn't designed to be playable. REoL's is. Both are not playable. REoL's is worse because his levels actually try to be playable.

That has to be the funniest logic I've ever read.

Are we sure Doomguy was on Phobos in episode 1?

>>3390352
Wasn't E1M5 called Phobos Lab?

>>3390352
Two of its levels quite literally have Phobos in their name. What do you think?

>>3390350
Quick, someone post the REoL advertisement screen.

>>3390354
This. He also dies on Phobos, goes to hell where the Deimos base is, then goes to hell itself.

I have a question for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXBiULAK51c

Do you think doom should be purely action oriented?
Or do you prefer something more horror oriented? Think more Doom64 given how kind of bland Doom 3 was.

Or should these two elements be blended together somehow?

Me personally, I think Doom should be action like but mostly prey on fear of the unknown, maybe some outlandish monster designs n shit?

>>3390331
looking good kinsie
can't wait to play it

>>3390342
>Visually appealing
Dawn of Reality
The Island
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=19873
Winter's Fury

>>3390365
Doom 64 wasn't a horror game, IMO. It was an action game that had dark lighting and ambient music.

>>3390365
Doom should always be an action game. It works well with both a "metal" or foreboding/horror atmosphere though IMO.

would you let SHODAN put on a giant strap-on dildo and ram you up the ass gently while whispering to you what a puny and insignificant insect you are

>>3390426
still gay

>>3390426
Stop posting this shit.

>>3390426
Nah.

>>3390426

not even lewd

>>3390436

what's your alternative?

>>3390426
No, but I would have straight cybersex with Shodan while she humiliates me.
I swear to god, she had the exact opposite effect she was supposed to have for me in both games. They try to make her creepy, but that voice just gives me boners.

>>3390293
solid post, my lad

got a bit of deja-vu from it

GUYS

WHAT IF DOOM GUY IS THE BAD GUY?

Think about it, some scientists open up a portal and suck some poor demons into a strange different world and begin attacking them for their appearance, they defend themselves and think they've survived. Then some guy comes along and fucking massacre's them all and then takes it a step further and steps into their world and continues slaughtering them!

YOU WERE THE DOOM THE WHOLE TIME

>>3390451
they deserve it for having lost souls

>>3390451
Doom: Where YOU are the jump scare.

>>3390451

>>3390426
This asshole is only reserved for real dick, thank you very much.

>>3390458
but you can't jump in doom

>>3390426
"Naah."

>>>/wsg/1212173
>>>/wsg/1212175

shovelware ads

>>3390473

>900 fucking levels

This is pretty much the definition of quantity over quality. Not that I've played it but I seriously doubt even half are good.

>>3390473
god bless d!zone, the shitty fake renders on the boxart would go on to predict the future of source ports and fan-made ue4 remakes decades later with unerring accuracy

>>3390473
Wow, those ads are 90s as fuck and totally adorable.

>>3390473
>tfw not in the D!Zone

The flashlight doesn't seem to work in Lizardmen 3 for me. I tried messing around with some of the graphic settings and checked the manual and didn't see anything that helped. Any clues?

>>3390505
> settings > display options > opengl options > dynamic light settings > dynamic lights enabled
if you don't see the option, switch from ZDoom to GZDoom

>>3390534
Thanks!

>>3390448
thanks :^)

>>3390321

Doom: Enhanceder Edition?

>You can play Doom 3&4 in Doom 2

Why ever own another game again?

>>3390576
>Why ever own another game again?

to rip the assets and put them in doom, of course

>>3390576
Looking around I'm finding a few "Doom 3 weapons in Doom 1&2" wads. Which is the best?

>>3390576

and soon we can play doom 3 and 4 in doom 2 AT THE SAME TIME
>>3390321

>>3390581
Dunno, I would experiment with different ones.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-emulation/addons/doom-double-jump

>A mod that just adds double jumping to Doom

It's the little things that can make the game extremely fun and totally broken.

>>3390321
>monster variety will slowly open up as you complete levels, allowing for a more gradual ramp-up in difficulty.
I hope this is in the tech demo build, I want to see how this is done without breaking map scripts.

Just getting into Doom map creation, what are some mistakes or bad decisions that newbie map creators make. In other words, what screams "my first map.wad"?

>>3390631
Play lots of maps that are already out there and see what's fun or cool and more importantly, what's annoying or bad.

>>3390623
a_spawnitemex with SXF_TRANSFERSPECIAL

probly

>>3390631
Not caring about ceiling variety is usually the biggest and most missed one

>>3390631
Inconsistent texture work. Pick a theme and stick with it.

>>3390631
Only playtesting on zdoom, but advertising it as vanilla/boom compatible.

Does anybody have that SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME picture for Blood? I know I saw it on here before, but never saved it.

>>3390678
You don't want it. It was just saying "lol blood has no source ports, play these crappy inaccurate remake mods instead".

>>3390691
there was a modified version that recommends mods.

>>3390694
Was there? I didn't know that.

>>3390678
That's the one I made. Here ya go bucko. I'm working on a better version

>>3390458
Isn't that Ghouls Vs. Humans or whatever?

>>3390694
post pls

is there a way to bring the project brutality rocket launcher and chaingun sprites and animations over to vanilla brutal doom 20b?
this fucking sprite sucks massive cock.
idk why he insisted in using it.

>hurr durr just use PB
no, i dont wanna use PB.
too bloated, too much shit in the options, all shit i dont care for.

>>3390748
yeah but if it isn't a 1 to 1 animation and it uses a different number of sprites then you'll have to alter the code and somehow i get the impression you haven't modded doom before and hoo boy mark's spaghetti code is no place to start

get http://slade.mancubus.net/index.php?page=downloads and use it to open project brutality, locate and export the sprites for the two guns

open brutal doom, find the sprites for the rocket launcher and chaingun, verify that it's a 1:1 replacement with no extra pieces

if it's a 1:1 replacement then you can just delete the old sprites and put the new ones in, just be sure they all have the same names

if it's not 1:1 replacement then you'll have to alter the animations in the decorate code which will either be awful or easy, but nowhere in between

>>3390736
Yeah you gotta add some of the mods in there.

i think that a berserker pack is like when you buy the wrong coffee and it tastes like burnt rubber but you have to finish it, you can't pussy out, but you're so disappointed that it tastes bad that you no longer enjoy coffee

>>3390759
I'm going through a tonne of blood mods and maps atm. Sifting through them and deciding which get added to the image. If you have any recommendations I'll be glad to take them into consideration

>>3390764

I think all coffee is disgusting so I don't really understand.

So why aren't you guys mapping for Quake Map Jam 7?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKalzkwchig

>>3390775
it's way too complicated. if there was like a snapmap program for it then sure i'd do it.

>>3390775

Because I'm mapping for Doom.

>>3390776
The TrenchBroom editor is like doing Lego. Can't get any simpler than that.

>>3390772
tea sipping limey detected

>>3390767
I'm sure you know about Death Wish, but Bloody Pulp Fiction is pretty good from what I hear.

>>3390767
Death Wish, French Meat, RATM

Since we're on the subject of Blood, is the super secret source port of Blood still being worked on?

>>3390829
I imagine that guy is currently working on the other game he's being paid to work on because of schedules and all.

>>3390775
Busy.

>>3390804

Actually I'm american. I don't really like tea either, but I prefer it to coffee.

>>3390880
tea sipping limey in denial detected

I'm using for the first time my shinny new 25 mb connection..

what wads should I download, I already played:

• Doom the Way ID Did
• Doom the Way ID Did 2
• E1M1 Doom 3 Style
• Freedoom
• Hell on Earth Starter Pack

>>3390909
BTSX E1&2

>>3390909
hellcore
epic 1
whispers of satan

>>3390909

>E1M1 Doom 3 Style

Wouldn't that just be the first map of the Classic Doom 3 mod?

>>3390921

is not classic doom 3 mod a doom 3 mod?

>>3390921

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRkhT0A7e40

I was browsing the wad archives and I found this: https://www.wad-archive.com/wad/Space-Hulk-DOOM-1

It's a half decent Space Hulk wad.
The maps are pretty easy to get lost in, and are somewhat slaughtermap like (you are purging a space hulk after all), but it's fun so far!

There are minor texture issues, but it's nothing too bad.

>>3390748
>no, i dont wanna use PB.
>too bloated, too much shit in the options, all shit i dont care for.
I feel the same way actually. I don't get what people see about it that's so attractive, it just doesn't do anything for me. Some anon in one of these threads called it a 'Complex Doom with added gore' and, come to think of it, that comparison isn't that far from being true.

This effect ended pretty cool, guess I'll use it in somewhere in the map.

>>3390932

coño

aww yiss

muthafuckin

eldritch abominations

>>3391058
Show it in action, like a .webm or something, or even a screenie

>>3391063
will do when it's actually in action, she's not even halfway done

just very pleased with the current progress

>>3390120
>That cybderdemon

>>3390120
>>3390132
>>3390137
>>3390142
>>3390156
>Check Don's Twitter for more stuff
>It's just him re-posting the same Donald Trump photoshops and political cartoons 15 times each

>>3391006
Whatever happened to those poor Genestealers, they don't deserve these terrible 3d model sprites. TITLEPIC is false advertising.

>>3391089
As far as I can tell, the genestealers are based off of the 1993 Space Hulk game.

I agree that they're terrible sprites though.

It's also a pretty ancient wad. I think I saw it dated 1997.

Why are quake's bosses so lame? Even the spider mastermind wasn't as lame as them.

>>3391150
I think they were strapped for time when it came to the two bosses so they didn't do anything but most basic shit that makes Icon of Sin seem fun.

It was always sad to me because of wasted potential

>>3391058
>>3391063

Ok, Void Elemental is finished: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7lodgca3scj2ivz/Void.pk3?dl=0

I'd make a Webm but I don't know how, so here's my little eldritch beastie

cuurrently replacing zombieman for testing purposes

>>3390775
Because I'm not good/creative enough.

>>3391175
Sort of cool, but would there be a way to make them manifest through wall surfaces?

Also I figure they should have a melee attack, I think I saw a frame of teeth in the .pk3 but I never saw those in the game.

>>3391150
Bosses always suck in shooters in general. It's either
>shoot it until it dies
or
>puzzle boss with no shooting whatsoever

>>3391201
>would there be a way to make them manifest through wall surfaces?

yeah i should be able to do that easily, just have to track down the right actor property

good idea anon, going to amend that and update the download

As far as the melee attack goes yes, initially i was going to make this a melee-only monster but i've been grinding those out lately and wanted to make something different

also i am too lazy right now to go back and trim the teeth sprite so it doesn't clip

>>3391206
the icon of sin, i thought, struck a decent medium between pure brains (no pun intended) and pure brawn - a bit wimpy, but not awful
it's a shame they didn't try refining that for quake and just went Full Chthon

>>3391206
It's kind of a product of the limited tools you have to deal with them.

In games like The Legend of Zelda you have like 20 different items to creatively shoot or maim the dungeon's puzzle boss with.

Doom would be kinda ridiculous if you had 20 guns while were only good in one or two situations each.

The Icon of sin is the only one which really uses this concept, which is cool, but there's not really too many ways to adapt this without it simply becoming shoot the boss until it dies when you only have a selection of guns for tools.

>>3391058
>>3391175
>>3391201
>>3391212

Download updated, Void Elementals now noclip

They're pretty gnarly now, thanks for the suggestion anon

>>3391206
>shoot it until it dies
When you simplify anything down to the most basic thing then yes you can make it sound like it sucks.

It's not like you can't have interesting attacks to dodge or anything like that, it will always be a boss that you just shoot until it dies.

>>3389994
>have blue armor
>drops below 100%
>accidental pick up green armor

FUCK FUCK FUCK

>>3391227
...and updated again with nogravity and floatbob, so they don't pop out of the wall and drop to the ground

ancient horrors ain't got no time for gravity

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7lodgca3scj2ivz/Void.pk3?dl=0

>>3391237
One good thing about modern HUDs is it lets you know if your armor is Blue, even if it dips under 100%

>>3391056
lel

guys I'm lost please feel free to direct me

>>3391246
uh

>>3391252
mm.

Have you guys seen this?

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2016/7/28/the-invasion-is-imminent-1/

>>3391256
ah. there we go.

>>3391240
I'm glad I had good input, they're actually really fucking terrifying now

>start Entryway on HMP
>fire bullet and then run for chainsaw
>ohgod there's a lot of them
>run through, get hurt bad
>shoot up imp up on ledge, get up there, they've already followed me so I have to run through again
>open rocket launcher secret, run back to starting room after passing it
>use my little friend to destroy 7 of them with 2 rockets
>feel triumphant

The only things I'd really change is to make their blood black, maybe make their visibility pulsate (if there's a render option for that), and possibly leave some kind of very slight ghostly trail as they move (maybe a dissipating trail after the projectiles too).

They're really terrifying monsters now, all they need is some finishing touches!

>>3391273
>black blood

another good idea, look at you go anon

>pulsing visibility

i was toying with the idea of using some transparency effects but i think making them solid makes them more menacing in a way, i'll look into it though

frankly i think the sounds are the best part of them, thank god it's easy to raid sound libraries

>>3391264
honestly, the spanish screams blaring on and off in the background going just further add to the hilarity of this whole thing.

from what I can tell by my primitive spanish lingo, the stuff they say go something along the lines of them not being able to see anything, constantly losing line of sight with whatever it is they're fighting and getting their shit slapped several times over by it, and just getting lost in general. I can see where they're coming from. no pun intended.

>>3391264
>>3391256
>>3391252
>>3391246
are you sure you should be playing that in software?

>>3391301
what in the middle aged fuck I thought I had a file selected

>>3391305
I tried loading it with GZD earlier on but the particle/smoke spam chokes up my toaster

yeah turns on you were right though! definitely noticing an improvement in lightning all around at least

>>3391246
>>3391252
>>3391264
>>3391307

>dd_flashlight.pk3

>>3391323
oh wait

spoke too soon

So, doomguys, I'm bored and thinking about opening up a server here for the next hour or so.
Do you have any recommendations?
Co-op, Deathmatch, which IWAD/PWAD to use?

I have Doom 1, 2, Ultimate, TNT, Plutonia, /pol/.wad, and the GBA deathmatch wads.
I can also download others.

>>3390365
Doom is a horror game the same way Army of Darkness is a horror movie; it couples horror elements with gratuitous action, and though it's focused more on the action it still works well together.

In the case of Doom 64, it's more like Evil Dead 2, where there's still plenty of action but the horror elements are more prominent.

>>3391342
my server from a couple of days ago is still up if anyone's interested

[TSPG] Painkiller: Saturnian Shenanigans

45.79.134.90:10698

Running BTSX with AtM

>>3391324
latest gzdoom devbuilds screwed the flashlight over.

>>3391327
what are you even expecting playing that? that map is a fucking meme. pointless, boring enemy encounter consisting on soldiers and imps with the occassional pinky because ass backwards darkness and pretty effects were all the guy seemingly cared for at the time of making it. seriously you could easily take out every monster in there and the map would still have the same effect on you while playing it.

just like doom 3 itself, but that's another story.

>>3391348
What wads do I need?

I'll play on your server.

>>3391353
if you connect with doomseeker it will auto-download them for you, just make sure you're running Zandronum 3.0

>>3390365
>>3391345
Oh yeah and to answer your question... I really don't mind either way, but I love when there's stronger horror elements like in Doom 64 and Blood as long as the action is still there (unlike Doom 3).

>>3391350
>latest gzdoom devbuilds screwed the flashlight over.

I'm using it just fine with 2.1.1..

this is the list of mods I'm currently using:

[doom.Autoload]
Path=zdoom-dhtp-20150623.pk3
Path=ImprovedDoom1-2Brightmaps.pk3
Path=pk_doom_sfx_20120224.wad
Path=dark_doom_lite.pk3
Path=dd_flashlight.pk3
Path=DoomMetal.wad
Path=lights.pk3
Path=ProjectBrutality2.03.pk3
Path=nc_custom_hud_v1.22.pk3
Path=nchud-bd.pk3

>>3391206
>>shoot it until it dies

These are perfectly fine, as long as the boss has good enough AI and abilities to require skill to deal with.

>>3391348
Wait, do I need to use skulltag to play?

I'm using Zandronum and it won't let me connect.

>>3391350
>what are you even expecting playing that? that map is a fucking meme.
You have no clue what a meme is, huh?

>>3391382

you need to make sure that your doomseeker is actually using Zandronum 3.0 alpha, check your options and download/initialize 3.0 in doomseeker if you don't have it

>>3391390
I keeps asking me to create a test directory with a copy of the Zandronum executable.

So I did that and it won't recognize Zandronum.

>>3391425
did you set up a directory for the test release?

if i remember correctly that was the last hurdle for me, i know it's a pain to set up an alternative Zandro build

>>3391383
is this literally the first time you see posts referring to something as a meme

>>3391452
Yeah. it's in /users/[me]/documents/ZTest.

Inside ZTest is a copy of Zandronum 3.0

Doomseeker then makes a new empty folder in ZTest called "3.0-alpha-r160519-2047" and compains that there isn't a copy of Zandronum present.

So @doom_txt blocked me on Twitter for no good reason.
I think it may have been after I tweeted a link to my WAD in a tweet where it was sort of featured.

>>3391465
redirect it to your copy of 3.0 and it should be kosher senpai

>>3391350
>pointless, boring enemy encounter consisting on soldiers and imps with the occassional pinky
well, reading the OP in the forum thread kinda states that it's meant to be played with brutal doom.

... you make that out.

>>3391460
>that avatar

Hi nambona.

>>3391472
Well deserved

>>3391474
not the guy asking about zand beta but how do i make it so that level authentication doesn't fail bc it doesn''t seem to think i'm using the same wads even thru doomseeker

>>3391472

hi nambona

bye nambona

>>3391460
No, and I ask them the same question.

>>3391497
who u quoting bruv

>>3391298
>>3391273
>>3391240

Ok, now they bleed black

Thanks a lot for your ideas anon, helped me turn a mediocre monster into a polished one

Mods, stop deleting posts relating to me (nambona).
Thanks.

>nambona instantly gets BTFO

All is right with the world.

>>3391509
Mods, please ban all posts by this guy (nambona).
Thanks.

>>3391501
you probably have conflicting versions in your appdata folder that the game is trying to load

delete all possible conflicts and re-download

>>3391474
Ok, problem was that I renamed my 3.0 copy to keep it from overwriting my 2.1.2 version, and the renaming was screwing Doomseeker up.

That was a stupid mistake on my part.

what is going on here?, are they supposed to be torchs?

(it's the machine games episode)

>>3391526
Cool, I'm in now.

Anyways, people, I've got another treat for you!
More clips from my upcoming Joke WAD!
It's not a Troll WAD, so you people don't have to worry. :)

>>3391543
make the green one yellow and call this "Revenge of the Keys"

>>3391542
there are 0 players in my server :/

>>3391554

>there are 0 players in my servers like there are 0 friends in my life

it's like pottery

>>3391559
is projection a meme now?

>>3391505
uh

okay?

>>3391559
>mindlessly reusing the same expression with no thought behind it
it's like getting banned for three more days!

>>3391590

I'm behind 7 proxies

>>3391582
Okay.

Glad we're on the same page.

>mfw playing D4D with fast monsters on

>>3391590

it's just bantz m3

>>3391603
I hear you're trying to have the last word, sup dude.

>>3391603
are you still confused about how memes work

>>3391507
>>3391273
>>3391240

updated my updated update, made Void Elementals projectiles pass through each-other and made them immune to infighting

now we got a cosmic terror

>>3391615
The D3/D4 UAC logo reminds me of the proxy mines used in Timesplitters Future Perfect.

>>3391543
some say low quality webm compression is a hint of greatness in your future.

>>3391542
My eyes have been opened!

All this time I've been playing vanilla Doom, and it's been great fun, but now I've gotten a taste of mods!
This is really cool!

I think I'm gonna go download everything in the "So you want to play some Doom" guide.

Any further recommendations, or suggestions for how to manage so many mods and wads?

Any weapon mods with a western theme? revolvers, lever action rifles and the like?

>>3391519
i deleted and redownloaded everything in the doomseeker appdata folder and it's still giving me the same error message

>>3391626
link pls
i want a taste

>>3391642
Did you rename the file?

Could you also post or paraphrase the error message?

>>3391620
Sup.

>>3391624
Are you?

>>3391646

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7lodgca3scj2ivz/Void.pk3?dl=0

plz respond back with impressions, harsh as fuck or sunny as spring, i don't care

>>3391648
server reports 6 pwads
you have loaded 6 pwads
on closer inspection, the versions of btsx_e1 are different, but i can't seem to control which specific version wadseeker downloads

>>3391656
I'd change the name of the worng version of btsx_e1 so doomseeker won't try to load it.

An underscore should be sufficient.

Huh, at some recent point in time the Japanese community project and Ancient Aliens go their final releases.

>>3391662
got it
tyvm
now where is everyone?

>>3391673
Gimme a minute and I'll hop on!

>>3391652
>>3391646
>>3391626

updated my updated updated update, the explosive projectiles were going off instead of passing through actors of the same species

hopefully this is the final build

>>3391676
it's never the final build

>>3391683
>oh i got a reply

>>3391690
no, i'm serious

there'll always be something to surprise you that needs an update

>>3391703
no i believe you

the fact that i'll need to maintain my work instead of just hammering out immutable content is what bothers me

>>3387784
>>3387794
>>3387858
>>3387878

well, I already did a test map, what maps/episodes should I play before throwing me at this?

I already played the 3 expansions, honey, rubicon, rubicon2 and rubicon rumble pack

>>3391676
>>3391690
nigger, there is no such thing as a 'final update'.

one day you'll wake up, oh you will. Fulfilled with the rarely experienced sense of acomplishment. You just uploaded a new version of your gameplay mod or map. this was to be the final version, all sectors done, all bug-free. the thread goes on happily as ever, people post screenshots of your majestic work for others to see. Say they're having fun.

then you boot it up and you find yourself actually having good fun, giving yourself a fair chance for once to enjoy the thing you worked so hard to achieve, and be proud of your efforts which only recently came to fruition.

And then you see it.

There it is, clear as a cigar lit in pitch darkness. A stray pixel on your gun. The muzzleflash doesn't align perfectly. The offsets somehow make your gun look wimpy as it's being fired. The firing sound no longer feels embelishing and empowering. It's too weak. It's too strong. You've been using TEKWALL more than you should have. You didn't put enough FIREBLU in. Sooner than later, you realize you've been using nothing but this one weapon in particular during the last 6 or so maps, out of the 6 you've made for the mod, for a grand total of 6 barons killed in 6 shots in 6 seconds within each. What an oddity. Your maps suck, your weapons are shit, the entire doomunity hates you now.

Long before you know it, you're booting up SLADE and GZDoomBuilder. You should. You have to, you need to, you ought to, you must.

>>3391714
we must enjoy the pain

>>3391714
'Easy enough', you stutter to yourself. Open the .wad file. Set some values. Add some shit. Put more monsters in. Play some music while you do it. Maybe have dinner as you do so. Spaghetti with meatballs.

Then you find yourself unhappy with the map. You begin contemplating scraping the gun altogether. At what point did this come to happen you don't know. How could you have known. How could anyone have known.

You delete the map. A fit of improper disgust, agitation and hate inbound. A violent press of a button and it's gone. You export the PNG sprite files onto your desktop. You touch them up. The process is slow and painful, you've developed carpal tunnel. You freak out, this has never happened to you before, not ever, not now. Oh god. You startle and quickly get up from your desk chair. You stumble the table slightly, but that's more than enough strenght to cause your carefully fixed dinner to spill over.

The spaghetti, the meatballs, the tomato sauce. It's dead. How could you.
No.
You awkwardly direct your view towards your now wasted eats.
You are aware you are but the husk of a man.

'That's okay. I-I can make this work' you mutter to yourself, in a perhaps somewhat helpful sense of delusional optimism. You can't. A quick glance at the walls show all the textures used have begun looking strange to you somehow. You feel dreaded. This can't be. You hover your mouse over the .wad files to open your 3 weeks worth of work and labor of love. You feel a cold, sharp wind run through your spine.

The walls. The ceilings. The floors. The buttons. Lights. Lifts. Doors. The grating. The glowing sectors.

FIREBLU.

FIREBLU, everywhere.

>>3391676
Well I tried it on E1M1 and E1M2, on M2 it really changes the map, once you open that dark maze, and they hear you, all those rifts will come flowing out of there slowly. It's also the fact that you slowly hear the whispering coming closer through the walls, that is REALLY effective.

Conceptually I think we've made a pretty great monster here, changes I like:
>black blood, makes it feel more distinct and supernatural than the meaty demons are
>phewing whirling noise following the projectile, clues you in that something is going on when it shoots at you from an angle that you can't see, and makes you kind of jump because you know they're here now

Changes I'd suggest
>It's not quite immediately apparent when they die, maybe add brief a flashing pulse or something when they die, like a black colored light effect, which uses a slight black dynamic light (or I guess a shadow) for coolness
>flickering and 50% transparent afterimage trail when they move of some sort maybe (I don't actually know how good this would look, this is an idea I just had)
>afterimage effect on the fireball (create an inert actor using the same graphic as the ball which spawns and sits in place and then despawns after a few tics, the ball creates one of these actors once every tic)
>put a bob or weave flag on the ball as it moves, weaving left and right or something, making it look more erratic and less clean, also makes trajectory a bit less predictable

I'm really loving these things.

>>3390365
I always felt more drawn to the horror aspect of the game. Doom 64 really gave me a taste for that. The original did too despite the focus on action. I've always wanted to see techno horror done right(read: the way I want it done). Its not enough to just slap some robot parts onto a demon or a human. The strogg where almost right. I want to see simple machinery designed to maim and kill, attached to still cognizant humans screaming and crying that they cant control themselves. Spring-loaded legs that work like a runners prosthetics and look as crude (important that it not be high tech) as the legs seen on the original spider mastermind. Why? Because Satan. Cybernetic dudes with shotguns feels boring and generic. Nothing out of place or alarming to the player. I want confusion. Panic even. I certain inexplicable brutality to it.

Maybe that's too edgy. I dunno. I'm just not phased by the usual cyberdude-with-gun thing. I guess its not meant to be horror anyway. Now that I think about it, System Shock also got pretty close.

>>3391731
What do these things do?

>>3391738
Come out of the walls and fuck you up.

>give DECORATE another try
>try adding inventory.maxamount to armor
>doomguy now can store armors in his pockets
>automatically equips new one if current one is destroyed
Neat. I guess it's leftover code from Strife.
Might be good for help with OCD when you finished the map but still have a lot of armor vests to pickup.

Carmack was right about gameplay being more important than story, Quake II was made without Romero and got mixed reactions, while Daikatana a plot heavy was shunned and only the MP was considered good(which doesn't have plot), and Quake III was pretty good despite being a Deathmatch only game with no story.

>>3391748
Seems a bit easy mode though. At least you didn't make it that Doomguy can horde medkits so he never dies.

>>3391710

some love here?

>>3391769
If you haven't played Arcane Dimensions, play that.

>>3391728
calm down term

>>3391728
A desire to unload your pain. A burning wish of hate and gushing anger filling your every pore and capilar. Agitation. Agitation compells you.

Your right hand. Red and flesh-ridden now stands at the very end of your wrist, no longer discernible from a hunk of mauled bones and decaying flesh. That spaghetti was hot alright.

Flesh chafing, your red shorts excruciatingly shoving through your veins and arterial joints in a bizarre competition of sorts to close in to your very femurs. Your shirt, seemingly no longer bound by the chains of reality, begin to follow suit shortly. Air escapes your blood hushed larynghe in the form of an acute, hearing damaging screech that resembles more that of a scared being than a suffering one. Fear. Despair. What's gonna be of you?

You wake up.

Pure, distilled anger nearer to your very own figure than that of a recognizable humanoid being, hand still shaking mad. You can't feel anything. You helplessly try to open your eyes and look around you, much to your shock, what were once helpful tools to your surrounding awareness are no longer there. You dip your digits inside the now empty cold, damp sockets in disbelief. This does not help. This does not help at all.

Your legs and arms begin to shuffle at violent random intervals all of a sudden. Forward, backwards. Forward, rinse and repeat. You no longer have a mind of your own, but you are perfectly well and aware of what must be done with the next living being that dares venture into your room.

mustering a deafening, perfectly audible sigh, you finally let it out.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>3391758
i wouldn't completely dismiss narrative out of hand
half-life had a good balance between narrative and gameplay given that you could pretty much decide how much you wanted to opt into involving yourself with the story
part of the reason why narrative can be easy to fuck up however is when it runs counter to gameplay
examples:
>being told you are a bad person for things that the game forced you to do
>having a story that condemns murder soon after your character mindlessly gunned down nameless mooks
>infodumps in an otherwise fast paced game that you'd ought to be able to run through with the bare of minimum of plot justifying your actions

>>3391774

OK, installing right now..

>>3391780
the final update.

>>3391714
>>3391728
>>3391780
>>3391789
fucking my god

>>3391714
>>3391728
>>3391780
>>3391789

And that, kids, is how revenants are born.

>>3391714
>>3391728
>>3391780
>>3391789

>>3391714
>>3391728
>>3391780
>>3391789
And to think I was in the mood to make a map a moment ago.

>>3391714
>>3391728
>>3391780

>>3391714
>>3391728
>>3391780
>>3391789

>>3391714
>>3391728 (You)
>>3391780 (You)
>>3391789 (You)

SCREW YOU I AM NOT A REVENANT
I'LL WORK HARD ON MY SHIT AND THEN YOU'LL SEE

YOU'LL ALL SEE GODDAMN

Yeah I'm so done with my map. I'm not touching it until DUMP 3 is finalized and done with. There'll be no real problems until then... yeah...

>>3391748
>adding inventory.maxamount to armor
This may have solved my stackable armor problem, holy crap.

>>3391824
C'mon bro, just let it out. Just one good
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

You'll feel better, I promise...

>find indie dev i like on twitter
>scroll down
>he likes doom
>get excited
>scroll down further
>he likes the classic doom
>EXCITEMENT
>scroll down further
>he likes Doom Retro
>fuck
>scroll down further
>yeah this is how i play doom, with brutal doom and sweetfx shaders. i'm the thing ruining retro gaming. ;)
>close tab

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK.

>>3391853
Bad luck, friendo.

>>3391731
>It's not quite immediately apparent when they die

that's by design though, when you "kill" them they simply fold out of existence, leaving you to wonder if they are actually dead or just in the walls

>flickering and 50% transparent afterimage trail when they move of some sort maybe (I don't actually know how good this would look, this is an idea I just had)

I'll look into it, maybe even make a subclass that's blurred :^)

>put a bob or weave flag on the ball as it moves

I'll think about it but they're already a pain as it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzcHSXzTbqo
I bet reloading from the bottom, letting the empty magazine come out from the top, would feel damn satisfying in gameplay.

http://5years.doomworld.com/reviews/zdoom/

>True level scripting, ambient sounds, scripting sounds, full Boom support.
>I just about dropped my jaw when I first started the demo level and watched as the room got slowly brighter as the door in front of me was opened.
>I met up with statues made out of demon sprites, fog, colored lighting, imp fireball traps, more and more scripting, I mean, just the whole bag. Randy Heit has really outdone himself with ths version of ZDoom. Nothing will compare to being able to play a good level, with subtle colored lighting, and some well thought out scripting for traps.

Damn man, this Zdoom engine is shaping up to be quite the engine, ain't it? I can't wait to see what kind of crazy mods people will make with this!

>>3391853
at least he isn't shitting on doom 4 like a retard because mark's bandwagon tells him so.

>>3391780
>Your legs and arms begin to shuffle at violent random intervals all of a sudden. Forward, backwards. Forward, rinse and repeat.
fuck anon

>>3391298

>>3391964
thank you

>shotgunguy accidentally shoots up barrel in front of it and blows up like a faggot

>>3391985

>the imp's face when

>>3391985
Always a treat seeing those hitscan fuckers kill themselves. Personally think they're more dangerous then most other enemies with the amount of guaranteed damage they can do.

>>3391996
>guaranteed damage
hitscans have a chance of totally missing you yaknow. Also cover is a thing you can use. If you dont know the enemies animations and when they're about to attack after 20 years, you dont really have any right to complain.

>>3392010
do you have to start this shit every thread?

>DUMP 2, mapidon'tknowwhich
>revenant and hellknight begin infighting
>the revenant literally flees towards the starting room in a straight line as well, ocassionally turning back to fire at the hellknight
>hellknight limits itself to spewing fireballs, walking towards the revenant in a straight line
>this goes on, and I shit you not, for like, 10 seconds, almost looked like a fucking sitcom in a sense
>eventually the hellknight dies
>the revenant returns
I wished a) I wasn't such a moron and actually took a screenshot of it and b) I had somehow recorded my reaction.

Let's talk about what makes a good monster to fight.

There's a lot of custom made monsters, but what makes a fun one?

Is it certain attack patterns?
A low/high amount of HP and aggression?

Fast or slow movement?

What makes a good monster to you?

Same for bosses. What do you look for?

>>3392023
I guess when fighting them feels like a dance?

>>3392010
I'm well aware of the exact kind of posts that trigger people like you though :^)

5:15 am around here

time for some gamer fuel

>>3392032

the fuck is that

>>3392034
looks like a sandwich and soda

>>3392035

alright fine, what KIND of sandwich

>>3392034

a sandwich of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milanesa

>>3392037

Yo that sounds delicious

>>3392037
Caco's trying to get your sandwich, my dude.

>>3392039

oh, fucking little shit, you can trust on one

>>3392046
RIP anon's sandwich

>>3392029
Any examples?

>>3392037
So it's like schnitzel?

>>3392050
I like fighting Shamblers and Vores from Quake. Lots of moving about and such.

>>3392052

is the same dish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZb7Gq_mORs

>>3392059
>>3392052

I don't actually use flour, just bread crumps..

When made with only flour is called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escalope

>>3392053
anon, you literally just specifically mentioned the two quake enemies out of the entire roster that require melee baiting and usage of cover respectively.

you americans don't usually eat this, right?, not even in mc donalds?

>>3392037
>no spices or condiments of any sort
>not even a lettuce leaf
how do you not chug the soda each bite

>>3392071

>>3392072

>>no spices or condiments of any sort

the spices are IN the milanesa

>>not even a lettuce leaf

too much work

>>3392074

I'm being serious, I always think of going there and open a panadería or something related, I can't believe you guys don't eat dulce de leche..

>>3391853
>stop liking what I don't like!

>>3392032
>>3392034
>>3392035
>>3392036
>>3392037
>>3392038
>>3392039
>>3392046
>>3392047
>>3392052
>>3392059
>>3392064
>>3392071
>>3392072
>>3392074
>>3392075
>>3392080

>it's another caco is cooking episode

>>3392080
sure thing chief

>>3392082
>liking doom retro
>actively playing brutal doom
lol

>>3392082
I know, right? don't you wish you could downvote him?

>drop down into damaging flor
>instadamage
?

>stray from archvile's line of sight until fire is not visible anymore
>pop back in
>get hit
???

>playing doom
>game doesn't play itself
haha what

>>3392023
imo its the combinations of different monsters that makes doom great. Usually the combination of projectile and hitscan/firearms.

Having to dodge projectiles while dealing with priority targets like hitscanners is always good. target prioritization on the fly, combined with movement and trying to take cover, hit the powerups/health etc, is always good.

1 monster on its own is usually pretty boring, its well thought out combinations of monsters that makes things fun.

>>3392082
>Doom Retro
>excusable.

>>3392082
Doom Retro's only good new feature is automap on another monitor

>>>/v/346605091

Vita's now supposedly got a Doom sourceport available that can run in its native environment instead of some janky PSP mode exploits.

Did someone say sexy demons?

How long until some hot gluing videos come out?

>>3392181
I want a plushy Doom 4 pinky.

>>3392150
Just gave it a test run, and it's really barebones considering it's a source port that was ported right off a PSP exploit. No custom controls even, but at least native screenshots are allowed unlike some commercial games.

>>3392197
Also forgot to mention: there's no sound either. Not just 'shit out of music because the dev didn't add any MIDI support', but absolutely nothing.

Oh well, hope Vita homebrew gets some more development to get us a definitive portable Doom experience or something. I know there's one for the 3DS, anyone know how decent it is?

Hm, I probably need to make horizontal version of these wires. Maybe diagonal flats as well.

>>3392181
>miniatures for a tabletop game

color me interested.

RIPPING AND TEARING 3.5e

>I roll to shoot the imp
>DM: The imp dodges, but go for it
>*Rolls D20
>HIT!
>Ok Standard Shotgun, I do 7D3 X 5 damage
>75 damage
>DM: That imp is DEAD. only 60HP

>>3392181
No buff Baron butt, no buy.

>>3389996
MM8BDM updated to v5:
http://cutstuff.net/mm8bdm/?p=249

>tfw no Strange Journey.wad

>>3392409
I'll put it in there in the next thread anon, thanks.

>>3391540
Quakespasm? This sort of thing just happens to me on load occasionally, restarting the game normally fixes it. I think it has something to do with the animations loading incorrectly.

>>3391639
There is a .wad called fistful of doom, only two or three maps. but pretty fun.
There is also a weapon mod called western, but eh, it's not that good.
I've been also wanting to be a space cowboy, but I've had no luck searching for mods that allow me to do that.

Trying to solve some problems with colour, shape clarity, etc.

So far the best thing I did is chuck the normal map and just subdivide instead. Focuses more on the big forms and not useless detail.

>>3392514
Can't believe I even bothered making sure the normal map was working correctly, it just looks bad either way.

Any doom mods that let you use WWII weapons and/or take place in WWII

>>3392527
try adding a fill light from below and perhaps a rimlight

>>3392545
One sec I'm rendering him with weird Real Doll skin.

I want to squish it.

Okay I have an idea for how to get his rim lit up real good with a reflection map instead of fussing with getting the lighting perfect for his rim but I need to take care of a few things IRL first.

>>3392531
WildWeasel's Nazis!v2

https://github.com/wildweasel486/ww-nazis-v2

Tormentor667's WolfenDoom: Blade of Agony is based on this.

Just released my first WAD: "ANON.WAD". It's a generic castle sort of thing, but it's pretty large as one map goes.

pomf.cat/yiksjw.wad

>>3392183
I want a cacodemon

so I can pet it

>>3390829
Blood EX? After Kaiser finishes Turok 2 EX and Poweslave EX then he'll get to work on it.

>>3392615
>Levels created by OBLIGE 6.20
hmm yes hmm

>>3392617
how would you stop it from flying away

>>3392615
Nice try there.

>>3392617
>>3392648
wait i guess you don't mean a real one

>>3392648
by petting it

>>3392648
Tie it to a string.

>>3392648
Stick your dick in it.

>>3392642
>>3392650

Damn. All that time replacing the watermarks with generic textures, wasted.

>>3392662

>>3392668
Before Oblige there was another random generator, and many people would just put maps from it into /idgames claiming they were their own creations.

I'm betting Oblige takes extra measures into keeping the watermarks on because of this.

>>3392181
I don't know if demons have a sex other than murder, but I would totally fugg an on-model female pinky.

>>3392684
that was slige, which always shapes its first room a certain way and puts a dead lost soul in it, as a watermark

>>3392684
>>3392695
>that was slige
(as i'm sure you knew already)

>>3392685
I wanna get it on with bara-baron.

>>3392701
But dude, you can't do that. That's gay.

>>3392712

>>3392712
UAC defeminists claim being torn apart by chadcubus is "empowering"

>>3392685
same

>>3392545
Tried a rimlight, made the edges too bright and lost a lot of shadows which were good for defining shapes, the fill light worked well though. Just a very low energy hemi.

>>3392684
Small question: if I fuck around with oblige and end up with a cool level that I want to share, how would I go about sharing it without being accused of claiming it as my own creation?

>>3392730

Don't hide watermarks, say "This was made by Oblige."

Not sure why you'd really want too, but whatever.

>>3392730
>I fuck around with oblige and end up with a cool level that I want to share
you won't end up with anything worth sharing.

>>3392730
Just say "Oblige made this really cool level for me, check it out"

You need ot be transparent and say you didn't make it, but you wanted to show others it.

>>3392741
For the very rare case that Oblige makes this spectacular level that everyone must see

>>3392730

>>3392741

You'd think OBLIGE would spit out a seed that you could share, since it accepts a seed as input.

>>3392617
You're not supposed to.

>>3392721
>empowering
>not impowering

>>3392796
nigger christ. there's always something.

Would you wave back?

There's just missing flesh where his ass should be.

id learned their lesson.

>>3392838
needs more thicc

Is it lazy to just do double shotguns instead of making a whole new set of weapon sprites for the super shotgun? I've almost replaced every vanilla weapon and I'm kind of burning out on unique ideas. (still need to do plasmagun, BFG and the chainsaw)

>>3392843

>>3392852
please stop posting pictures of me

>>3392858
but anon

that was my post

>>3392843
Awful.

>>3392867
wow

hamlords vacate

>>3392867
my waifu

I don't like it.

>>3392875
top fucking kek

>>3392867

>>3392875

>>3392827

What do you guys find is your most used weapon when going through random wads?

The super shotgun? Chaingun? Plasma Rifle?

Pistol?

>>3392971

>image is backwards(look at his shirt) but the text is still readable

What?

>>3392983
the text on his shirt is the right way around, what are you saying

>>3392982
depends on what the wad gives you
shotguns most likely

>>3392983
Whoops.

>>3392983
Haven't you ever heard of ⅃⅃AᙠƎƧAᙠ before?

Do you live on the moon?

>>3393006
But I thought reverse baseball was moon exclusive.

is there a way to stop gzdoom from having flickering menu graphics? zdoom runs without any problems in comparison.

>>3393039
update your graphics card drivers

if that didn't solve it, try a different dev build

>>3389994

Joel of the Vinesauce streaming group announced a Doom mapping contest soon.

https://twitter.com/joel_vinesauce/status/759106077120204801

>>3393053
wait, old Doom or NuDoom?

just what we need, more e-celebs bringing idiots into the community

>>3393082
Old, because "me so oldschool"