/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3356034
SimAnt is hard as fuck.

>>3356034
SimTower was my jam

>>3356179
But oh so satisfying

Why does clicking the queen grant you free food?

>>3356179
Is it?
The only real challenge is Quick Game.
Full game is piss easy.
While you control what your colony is doing on yard square currently selected, computer automatically handles colonies (both red and black) on the rest of the squares.
And he does fucking amazing job.
Ant population is through the roof, they colonize other squares(slowly, but still!) and get rid of enemy colonies on the same square.

My strategy for full game?
>dig a tiny nest and start breeding

>make a scent path to the food and back

>control the queen to maximize egg output

>set 30/70 forage/nurse and 40/60 workers/breeders, no dig or soldiers

>wait for a bit while pumping out dozens of eggs

>mate and colonize yard to the north, where second red nest pops out when you destroy the first one.

>mate&colonize, mate&colonize, mate&colonize

>colonize manually, its quicker than auto

>let computer handle running colonies while you focus on the colonizing

>if you control colony on the square that houses both red and black, reds will outpace you. If you let computer handle square with both red and black, black will eventually murder reds.

It reliably lets you win Full Game. If you're quick, reds wont even have a chance of setting additional colonies beside original and second up north.

Now, Quick game might be a bit more difficult, I need to check it out first tho.

SimEarth was boring....

>>3356339
Quick game is more difficult than Full game, given that you cant simply let computer handle your colonies, because you don't have multiple, just one and you can't get more.

I still won and quite easy.

>dig a tunnel in the square shape for queen to lay eggs in, a shaft with multiple layers for nurser ants to relocate eggs/pupae to and food chamber near the top.

>set 70/30 forage/nurse and 65/35 worker/soldier, No dig because we already dug all we need and no breeders because QuickGame prevents you from mating and setting colonies - breeders would only waste food.

>control queen. Lay an egg and move a bit, lay and move, do so until you have about 40 population, eat when you need.

>control soldier, recruit a handfull of ants and move to the red nest while avoiding their main routes.

>murder everything until there is only queen left.

>eat some of their stored food to recharge your health full and then attack queen.

>you may need few tries to kill her, but dont worry, red forces should be decimated by now, so just move in and kill her.

>that was easy.

>>3356369
it was not a game

>>3356179
>Set speed to max
>Do nothing
>Win every time, even on hard

The allied AI was far better than the opposing.

>be a child
>Sim Town came with my computer and it sorta sucks
>Sim Isle confuses my child brain
>become addicted to The Sims in middle school and buy the first two expansion packs

Sim games were so hit and miss.

>>3360650
your "misses" were the good ones, and your "hit" was what killed the whole series

>>3360667
>sim town is a good one

Not original poster, but I never understood this game as a child.

I mean, I had simcity 2000 and it was better in every conceivable way.

>>3361108
>it was better in every conceivable way
in every way you consider better. What's the chance you like SC4?

>>3360667
Sim Town was not good. It was for babies.

>>3362114
The two are not mutually exclusive. It may not be a game aimed at you, but that doesn't make it a bad game

>>3356189
SimTower got me into PC gaming. After playing the Mac version at school I got my parents to buy the 6-in-1 Sim pack at Office Depot.

The level of complexity varied hugely between those games; I noticed my younger sister was way into SimTown and SimAnt, while I mostly stuck to SimTower and SimCity. Didn't get into SimIsle until a few years later, but that was a fun game when it wasn't being a buggy piece of shit.

Anyone remember SimCopter? I liked it but in retrospect it seems like it needed more depth. After a while the only draw was as a 3D tour of your SimCity 2000 cities.

>>3362580
>The level of complexity varied hugely between those games
it's almost as if they were exploring different concepts, for different people

>>3362580
>3D tour of your SimCity 2000 cities
I was very upset with the 3D models used. They were an insult to the artwork of the game

We used to play Sim Park in science class. I have really fond memories of that and the game was decently fun.

>>3362593
They were pretty crude, but it was a 3D game made for people without 3D accelerators. Streets of Simcity looked a lot better, especially on a 3dfx card, even though I think it was just the same SimCopter models with better textures.

>>3362591
I don't think it was that intentional, aside from SimTown explicitly being a dumbed down SimCity for kids. SimTower and SimIsle weren't even made by Maxis, they were third-party games that just happened to fit the "system simulation" idea well enough to slap the Sim brand on them.

>>3362608
>I don't think it was that intentional
>games that just happened to fit the "system simulation" idea well enough to slap the Sim brand on them
THAT was the intention. Not doing everything inhouse, but bringing a common theme (sims in this case) to the people under a common label. You knew with a Sim Anything game you were up for an interesting, enjoyable and varied experience

>>3356501
What if we're all just some advanced alien race janitor's extremely updated SimEarth?

>>3362598
Streets of Sim city could be a lot of fun if you used the Sim City 2000 editor to build a racetrack with ramps and gorges.

>>3362580
>Anyone remember SimCopter?
I sure do remember all those multicolor nipples

>>3362660

>>3362660
People always love to be an asshole when they play sim games, so that would explain a lot.

>>3356034
God damn I loved SimAnt.

>>3362114
Sim Town is NOT for babies.

YOU'RE A BABY!!!

>>3356179
Man, all I ever did was just call as many ants as I could with me to the food and released them. Then when my colony was up and running, call as many ants as I could and kill the red scum. First priority was digging every single top segment so they had tons of exits they couldn't guard. Next priority, digging to the point where rain could ruin them if my plan failed. Finally, just overwhelm them with numbers.

Never controlled the queen. Never played as a worker. Never worked on strategy.

>>3360650
>>3361108
>>3362114
Sure, Sim City and Sim City 2000 were better, but I fucking loved that each person had their own little backstory (if I remember that correctly). Made me happy.Of course I didn't play that shit a ton but I wouldn't turn my nose up at it. Might give it 30 minutes right now, actually.

I sucked shit at it but still loved it. When Harvest Moon finally came out, I lost my mind.

>>3367032
yeah, after this game Harvest Moon is casual bullshit

>>3356034
When I was younger, I was always fascinated by SimEarth and SimLife.

Damn it.

Now I want to play those games again.

>>3362593
There was worse graphics...

JUST like my japanese horror games

This is the Playstation Simcity 2000 3D view. The Saturn version also looks like shit.

>>3356034
>SimHealth
Is that the one with the queer speedo guys in it?

>>3367179
I didn't have to suffer this one, so I'm indifferent.
Got to know, before I started SimCopter, I had a beautiful city or two. I loved the arcologies. Their design, in its variety, was gorgeous. When I then saw these arcologies in SimCopter it was ... an odd mix between infuriated and terribly upset. They looked awful. Very crude models, highly repetitive textures that didn't resemble the buildings at all. It was insulting. I kept playing SimCopter for a while, because the game itself is solid, but these visuals were like an attack on SimCity 2000

>>3367195
No, that's SimCopter.

>>3367179
>>3367186
wonder how it'll look with the perspective corrected emulator

>>3367032
Ohh i love this one!

>>3369090
you wonder? seriously? Also, just as shit, because the affine transform is the least of its problems

>>3356339
>The only real challenge is Quick Game
>>3356410
>Quick game is more difficult than Full game

Really?

>Begin Quick Game on max speed
>Double-click on red queen in the red nest
>Yellow worker ant zooms across the yard into the still-unpopulated red nest and kills their queen
>Game declares me the winner
>Time elapsed: literally five seconds
>If you lose the fight on your first try, or die on the way, you can race back and challenge her again because you have infinite lives

>>3371779
Holy shit, just tried this, it actually works.
What a joke.

>>3356179
>control the spider
>rampage the ants
fun

guess what dad bought for birthday?

I had this, I think the cover looks good but I don't remember ever having playing it.

I wish Maxis had kept making comfy simulation games.

Streets of Sim City was really bad... only the music was good.

For years I've dreamed about making a successor to SimEarth, to teach a new generation of kids about climate and evolution. But I don't have the knowledge to pull it off. You'd have to be an expert in so many branches of science as well as a proficient programmer.

>>3371950
Ay yo this game was fucking dope don't be hating.

Simcity 3000 and 4 are very good games, even 2000 is good.

>>3372049
There are probably some modern Earth science sims out there

SimTower was fun, but I really want to play a modern 3D version.

>>3372098
you really don't. Navigation would be hell, and so would elevator management. SimTower worked in part because you could think of elevators as roads/busses. If your tower is 3D, that gets massively more complicated

>>3362114
you must really like sim town then

>>3372126
Not seeing any negatives here.

>>3372029
>only the music was good

I thought it was funny when a couple songs from Streets of SimCity turned up in The Sims, but re-recorded in Simlish.

>>3372049
It would go over kids' head. Kids wouldn't have a clue.

What would be good is an addictive game for adults that gets them thinking about these things. A lot of adults actually care about politics and the real world and shit.

i loved simcopter

played a demo version of SimSafari back in the day, it was ok I guess

I have my old sim tower disc, what do i need to do to get it to run on windows 7?

>>3372563
If compatibility mode doesn't work then it should run in a Win2k or 98 VM.

I tried to get SimIsle running in a VM but it kept crashing periodically. Eventually I just installed Win98 on an old Thinkpad, but it turns out the Windows version of SimIsle is just an unstable piece of shit even in its native environment.

>>3371995
>>3371950
>how about Sim.... LAMP?!
You're not even trying anymore, are you?

>>3371950
Didn't this get a remake with Sid Meier's name on it?

That was weird.

>>3372594
Thanks, sounds simple

>>3372880
totally different games, iirc. the original is more of a constructor kit / cad while sid meier's is kind of a theme park tycoon game.