/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3359808
>Command?
Flee

I have a super duper really important question to ask:
Why the fuck does the Dragon Quest logo alternate between blue and red?

>>3359862
Aesthetics reason?

>>3359849
>Flee

>>3359849

>>3359808
got a bigger version of that image?

I hate these general threads, you hardly can focus on a single topic, and if you create a new specific thread, someone will point you to the general one.

>>3359808
>Toriyama can't remember if Bianca's son is a Gohan or Goku clone.
This never ceases to amuse me.

>>3359808
>Dragon Quest
How do I get into this series?

>>3360118
By playing it. Try 3 first, any version.

training these high-end monsters is such a grind

>>3360118
try the second one first. its very short and teaches you all you really need to know to beat the others.

>>3360275
kek

>tfw that was you
at least it was the GBC version, though I never beat it or got to Rhone

Playing IV NES at the moment, about to fight esturk in chapter 5. Really enjoying it, maybe even more then the DS version. Might go try monsters 1 after I finish it.

I remember hearing apparently accents are returning in VII, anyone have any pics of dialogue? Interested to see how bad it is, if its real bad I might consider the PS1 version, I haven't played it yet.
>>3360079
>that filter
Kill yourself my man. Ok but seriosly how could you think that looks good?

>>3359808
So is this related to Dragon Ball? Because that's clearly the same artist of the pic.

>>3360415
No, just the same artist

>>3360415
Do you people live under a rock?

>>3360415
Holy shit it's amazing how dumb people are.

>>3360415
now that you mention it the do look a bit like dragon ball

>VII remake will finally allow the Hero to have new clothes

Thank goodness.

felt weird taking on supermonsters looking like a peasant fisherman.

>>3360952
And taking on supermonsters looking like a raghead hobo didn't?

>>3360963
If you're talking about DQV, its okay because he wears purple.

if you wear purple you can get away with anything

>>3360952
Areyou kidding me? The hero of VII has my favorite main protagonist design in the series. Just look at this idiot and his dumb pointy hat. I love that in every other game the hero looks exactly what they are, the hero, but in VII you look like aside character, not even like a party member, and yet you're the one saving the world.
>>3360989
The DQV hero has that cool ass purple cape and long hair, he's slick as fuck.

I've come to love dragon quest, though I recently started playing but I've known about it for longer

>>3361085
>Just look at this idiot and his dumb pointy hat

>>3361098
That idiot doesn't even wear pants.

>>3361085
Don't get me wrong, I like his design, it just feels weird that it never ever changes.

>>3361119
If I had the Triforce of courage I'd ditch those fuckers in a heartbeat.

>>3361149
I know what you mean. Like if the DQV protag never aged.

>>3361156
That Link didn't have the Triforce of Courage until the end of his second game.

>>3361156
>if the DQV protagonist never aged.
That seems like a cool concept to me, I would like a DQ protagonist that's like 5-12 years old. I don't know, I always liked young children or middle aged adults as protagonists, teenage protagonists are boring to me.

>>3361168
I get what you mean. VII's dude is a breath of fresh air.

>>3361168
does Monsters 1 Terry count?

Man, I can not get into DQ4 at all. Ever since midway through Elena's chapter I started struggling to get motivated to keep playing. I think the constant switching characters just wore me out. Managed to get through Torneko's chapter because it was kind of fun playing the markets, but now I'm back to level 1 with the twins and I just don't care anymore.

Also was it ever confirmed if the 7 remake was getting the symphonic music cut from the western release?

>>3361165
The courage was inside of him all along.

>>3361168
It's pretty overdone to be honest. Playing as a child in a strange world kind of helps give the player a better perspective of shit that goes on that you don't understand.
>"Oh man, I'm a kid that got lost in the forest"
>Slime appears
>"The fuck is this?"
And you're basically learning through the kid's eyes as if you were that kid in a dangerous situation for the first time.

>>3361179
Once the twins are all set that's the final sub scenario. It gets better, trust me. They even get their own battle tune!


pic unrelated, DQVI on SNES got a bit lazy for one fight.

>>3361179
I believe it uses midis, not 100% sure.

What a shame dude, IV is my personal favorite but if you're not liking it that's you. I will say chapter 5 is definitely my favorite and while I find chapter 1-4 fun in their own ways the build up to chapter 5 and adventuring with these character you have already played was great. Also IV has my favorite cast, great designs and everyone is useful in battle. While I won't say force yourself I highly recommend trying it again after taking a break. Recently I tried playing DQI for the first time and couldn't do it, it felt terrible. The other ones spoiled me I guess.

>>3361185
Plus the twins one is super short.

>>3361182
Yeah something about young kids solving the weird occurrences is really cool to me. I think that's why I really like the mother/earthbound series, other then just being modern day sci fi DQ (being a DQ fan that's a good enough premise to me) being a group of goofy kids helping people really gives you a fealing of adventure.

>>3361185
>>3361206
I think it's best if I just put it down for a bit and pick it up in a few days. Though at the same time, I am playing on the DS, and it might just be that I'm getting tired of the tiny ass screen. I'd play the NES version, but honestly I can't really stand the nes versions of 1-3 much. I don't seem to have much patience for NES games in general anymore. I don't think the PS1 version ever got a fan translation, so maybe I should just emulate the DS version that way I can sit back and have it on a bigger screen at least.

>>3361205
Maybe I'm a bit odd but I still greatly enjoy DQ1, even after playing much improved later entries.

>>3361214
>>3361182
I think when you have fantasy games, and anime as well, featuring kids as the MC it helps capture a bit more of a sense of adventure. Kids naturally have a more innocent and wide-eyed view of the world which is refreshing, it's why I love Grandia so much. Once you get into teenage MCs things always seem to get bogged down in melodrama at some point.

>>3361168
Same. I always like the idea of going out in a strange big world while still in a innocent child mind. Zelda OoT/MM and WW really handled that feeling well.

>>3361179
I love the different chapters. Each character felt actually different. Even the NES didn't feel like it was that much of a grind. Also once you are the Hero/Heroine and going out to find the characters you played as is fun as fuck.

>>3361185
>one fight.
Any time an enemy used the Mimic spell, the same thing happened.

What's the point of skills like "ramming" or "tackle" in DWVII? They barely do any damage and my characters lose like 80% of their HP. Am I missing something here?

Sometimes I question the monster design in Dragon Quest.

>>3363262
Sharks are scary, right? Now imagine a shark that could climb out of the water and chase you across the beach.

>>3363267
That is indeed pretty scary, and for some reason I am getting Dwarf Fortress vibes.

What's better on Alena? Fire claw or Falcon earrings?

>>3363328
Falcon Sword and Falcon Knife Earrings are almost always the better option for late game.
But if the character is still too weak, they may end up doing less damage total with the Falcon weapon.
For Alena in particular, with the Earrings she gets two chances to crit per turn. That's not exclusive to her, but she does have a much higher chance to crit, so it's worth mentioning.

>>3363328
Falcon earrings for sure. Not only does it give a higher damage output but it gives two chances for crits and is useful for metal slime enemies. Earrings are definitely the best weapon for her.

>The stories of the chosen heroes
>Chapters of the chosen

>The bride of Heaven
>Hand of the heavenly bride

>Land of illusion
>Realms of revelation/reverie

>Warriors of Eden
>Fragments of the forgotten past

Why are the localizers so fucking obsessed with alliteration? They change some of the titles beyond recognition just for that crap.

The only good change was DQ8 because the original title is some pretentious bullshit.

>>3364295
You're forgetting Luminaries of the Legendary Line, their name for II.

Personally I like it. It sounds nice.

>>3364295
>Everything has to be translated to be literal
>There can be no substitutes for the supperior Japanese language

>>3364295
i like the changes. gives then a nice tone and makes them memorable.

Are both Flora and Bianca supposed to be descendants of the DQIV hero? Or just one of them?

I mean, is there any hint that Flora is adopted if you choose Bianca? Does Bianca's dad ever tell you that Bianca is adopted if you choose Flora?

It would be cool if they were Schrodinger brides and your decision "decided" the past. If you choose Flora, Bianca was born from her mother and she doesn't have zenithian blood. Something like that.

>>3364319
My problem is the alliteration. The Japanese titles don't have that. Why do they let some autistic localizers add that dumb shit to the games? What's the point?

>>3364334
They're just of Zenithian descent, it could be after some generations or they could have a pure Zenithian parent. Debora in the remakes is Zenithian too. I think all three were adopted, perhaps they're triplets.

>>3364338
>Debora is an angel
>Tutti-frutti man adopted TWO angels
Is Ludman sterile or something?

Debora is a shit wife that kills my suspension of disbelief. She's not an angel, she's clearly a demon. I'd rather believe she cheated on me with a zenithian.

>>3364348
>Hating best wife
Go tutt yourself, you frutt.

>>3364348
Debora's party chat right before Nimzo is sweet.

>>3364348
>In the game's ending credits, while the Hero and his wife dance a waltz, if the Hero picks Debora, she will be the one leading the dance and the Hero will be the one who would be spun and thwirled around

Debora is the waifu to end waifus

>Jessica is a Barbara ripoff with massive tits
>Debora is a Maribel ripoff with a post-pubescent body
>Angelo is a Terry ripoff without the edginess
The only one that surpasses the original is Angelo, because he's not a dick and his Japanese name is very fitting (Kukule/Cuckle). Hilarious.

>>3364485
>Cuckle
Holy shit. I hope this was intentional. Horii is a fucking genius!

>>3364485
I never played 8. Does Angelo get cuckled?

>>3364485
But anon, Deborah is a Maribel that you can marry. That makes her win by default.

>>3364336
It's colorful and makes the titles much more memorable. Fuck, "World Tree's Woe and the Blight Below" gets stuck in my head sometimes.

None told me VII was that good. This looks like the Magnus DQ. Are its successors any good?

>>3364612
VIII is a masterpiece and IX is pretty damn good.

------------------DQ7 SPOILERS-------------

47 hours in. Finally unlocked the class system. Any suggestions? I don't want to give SwordDance to everyone or anything like that. This is my plan so far:

Hero: Mariner > Warrior > Thief > Pirate

I know pirate isn't worth it, but he's a fisherman's son.

Gabo: Shepherd > Cleric > Fighter > Thief > Tamer

Tamer doesn't give me access to a third level class either, but it makes sense for Gabo. I think Cleric + Shepherd is the only way to get increase, and I don't want Shepherd on any other characters. Does the hero ger Increase naturally? Do any other human classes learn it?

Maribel: Mage > Bard > Cleric > Sage > Jester > Dancer > TeenIdol > Summoner

Maribel will be a Summoner, Gabo a Godhand and the Hero a Hero (after going through Godhand). Is this enough to beat the game?

I haven't met Aira or Melvin yet, so I'm not sure what I want to do with them. She will get SwordDance, that's for sure.

>>3364612
What emulator are you using? I had absolutely no problems with PSXfin for the first 45 hours, but now that Maribel knows some strong spells... it seems that the emulator can't handle them. Fireball, Bang and Infermore sometimes (around 30% of the time) make the game freeze for around 10 seconds, with the music still playing. It's really annoying.

Maybe I should use ePSXe, but there's so much shit to configure and so many plugins to find... I'm completely lost.

>>3364612
8 is really nice and simple, but definitely worse. 9 is fucking garbage.

>>3364632
ePSXe, my computer is too shitty to handle anything else.

>>3364638
That's strange. My computer shits itself with ePSXe but has no problem with PSXfin.

How did you configure it to run DQ7 without problems? Is there a guide somewhere?

>>3363414
Those 2 hit weapons don't gain Oomph bonus for the second hit, depending on your party it may not be the best weapon.

>>3364648
Vanilla ePSXe plus low settings

>>3364508
No, it's the opposite. He's a womanizer.

I always found it funny that normal slimes can learn madante in this game

>>3364663
We call it Magic Burst in america.

>>3364621
Have you considered monster classes?
If you don't do it from the start you probably won't have motivation to do it later.

>>3364650
That's a valid argument against the falcon blade, but the Stiletto Earrings are definitely her best weapon. The best thing about Alena is her absolutely broken critical hit rate, but she can't crit at all if she's under the effects of Bikill/Oomph.

I think you are supposed to use the fire claw for a while until her natural strength reaches a certain number, but she's always strong enough by the time I get the fire claw.

She gets the gringham whip in the remakes, but you can't crit with multi-hit weapons either, so it's worthless.

>>3364679
1/8 critical hit rate is hardly reliable, let alone broken.

>>3364663
Yeah, but they learn it at absurd levels that only a Slime+10 or something can reach.

The best thing about the GBC Monsters games is how a normal Slime can have godlike stats and skills if you keep breeding it. You can use your favorite monsters no matter how weak they are in the real games.

>>3364665
Magic Burst sounds boring. Sorceria sounds boring. Ashlynn sounds nice but it's a fucking pun. Go away, Honeywood.

>>3364694
Ashlynn's a pun? On what? And what does madante even mean

>>3364675
I only have a Healslime heart. Should I use it with Maribel? She's a pure mage and the only one that won't go though Godhand, so this could be the only way for her to learn HealUs.

By the way, Slumber and Howl are insanely good. I didn't use Howl at all until after Dharma and now I feel like an idiot. It could've made some horrible battles a lot easier. Slumber restores health and MP really fucking fast, which is great for Gabo because he doesn't have that much MP.

Hey real quick I wanted to ask, recently I heard that VII on 3ds is adding back accents, can anyine confirm or deny this? From what I got researching it I found people saying both.

I want to support VII 3ds but honestly if the script is shitty I might just skip it and either emulate or even try to hunt for a ps1 copy. VII is one of the ones I haven't played yet and the one I'm most looking forward to playing but for me translation is important in DQ.

>>3364729
One guy said one town had scottish dialog; the E3 footage didn't have any. I can neither confirm or deny this.

>>3364348
Debora is as pure as fresh fallen snow.
The cheating whore is Bianca, Japan agrees.

>>3364729
Everything post-Dragon Warrior adds accents.

If it bugs you that much then just emulate it.

>>3364485
>>Jessica is a Barbara ripoff with massive tits
Not really? Only thing they have in common is red hair.

>>3364698
>Ashlynn's a pun? On what?
Her real body was burned to ashes when the monsters destroyed "Sorceria". This stupid pun is literally the only reason they changed a perfectly fine name like Barbara. They did the same shit with "Carver".

>what does madante even mean
I've heard that most DQ spell names in Japanese are nonsense words that don't mean shit. Some of them vaguely sound like real words and a few are onomatopoeia.

The problem with the localizers making every spell sound like the real thing (woosh, frizz, crack) is that it sounds fucking stupid in English. The Japanese have onomatopoeias for thousands of things that don't really make a sound, like a smile or a stressful situation. They even have an onomatopoeia for SILENCE.

むらむら (to be horny)

ぐずぐず (procrastination)

じぃ~~~ (staring)

ぴかぴか (shining or twinkling light)

You can see these things in manga all the time. Japanese has "sounds" for everything, even if it makes no sense. That's why trying to do this in English is so cringeworthy. They should use generic spell names like in the Dragon Warrior era or just use the original spell names.

I think the "open" spell is the only one that is a pun in Japanese. Horii talked about it in an interview. It's supposed to sound like a girl saying "get out, you pervert!" because you opened the door to the bathroom, or something like that. I'm not making this shit up.

Anyway, what's the problem with nonsense words for spells, characters and towns names? Madante, Hoimi, Calberona, Reidock, Gabo, Ojiron, Gandino, Salabona, Granvania... It's fun and makes them stand out.

I'm surprised they didn't try to change Alefgard's name into some kind of "underworld" pun in the android ports.

>>3364741
She is also known for being a mage that uses whips.

>>3364729
Of course they are adding accents and puns. They will never drop that shit.

>>3364770
Too be fair Ashlynn is a much better sounding name, Barbara sounds like a 50 year old southern women. Though I suppose the use of it could be better in Japan where a name like that is never heard. In FFVI I always preffered Terra over Tina, sounds way better.

>>3364729
The PS1 version has a great translation (and a few typos here and there). It's also a much better game because it has true random encounters.

The remake ruined the ruins. They were epic as fuck in the original. Oh, and the multiple sex jokes. They will totally get rid of that.

Just play it on PS1, don't ruin your first experience with the game. You can always play the remake later anyway.

>>3364729
>hunt for a ps1 copy
Seriously? Just emulate it. This game is known for freezing half the time if your disc is even slightly scratched. And there's no way you are going to find an unused DW7 disc.

>b-buy I want to play it on the real thing
Sorry, it's unplayable now. You have to use an emulator.

I'll never understand why people hunt for old games instead of just emulating them. The worst part is when they dump the game from a slightly damaged disc or cartridge and upload it to a rom site, even though there are perfect roms floating around already.

This is bad for videogame perservation. What if the damaged rom is preserved instead of the good ones?

>>3364770
>Her real body was burned to ashes when the monsters destroyed "Sorceria"

I don't remember this aside from maybe one line. I suppose Carver's body was carved up too? I think you may be over examining this. Even then it's a cute name.

As far as spell names, I like the onomatopoeia stuff since it's memorable. You know that Kaboom is a stronger Boom spell, for example. Or that Kacrackle is a much stronger Crack. What are these spells even called in the Japanese versions, just nonsense words? Given Japan's taste for all things onomatopoetic, one would think the spells would follow suit. I guess not. Magic Burst isn't even an onomatopoeia and looks a little out of place because of it.

For towns, I feel the same way. A city in the dream world ruled by someone who never sleeps? Somnia is a great name. Reidock doesn't mean anything, it just sounds generic. A mountain town which has silk as its main export? Weaver's Peak. Lifecod sounds odd. Virtually every town gets the same treatment. While a few are over the top (let's call the city ruled by criminals Felonia) most of them sound nice and are memorable. I suppose it's a matter of personal taste though.

>>3364716
Maribel doesn't need healus because she gets hustle dance.

>>3364770
>They don't sound stupid because they're in Japanese
What's with you being so anal about the localization? Did a translator kill your family?

>Ji~
>Dokidoki
>Pikapika
>Guzu
You can't honestly think these don't sound as idiotic as any other onomatopoeia. And it's common knowledge we've been using onomatopoeias like "Crack" and "Whoosh" since comics were first introduced as a mass media here in the West.

I agree with you on phonetics and even the name changes for main characters, but you act like the localization team is out to destroy everything you love.

>>3364820
And then there's this asshole. Same guy probably. Just take a chill pill, dude. You're going to get a giant ulcer at the rate you're going.

>>3364729
Ignore that douche.

You can find a good used copy of Dragon Warrior 7 online for about $70, shipping included. Do try looking around mom and pop stores, flea markets, etc. first. It's definetly worth the price, but it never hurts to get it cheaper.

>>3364732
>>3364736
>>3364781
Ok thanks guys, guess we need more info. Might just play the ps1 version.
>>3364820
I have no problem with rom but playing the real thing is always preffered. I gurss sometimes on a emulator I get a little too used to the benefits. I never abuse save states as that's down right cheating but even I can't resist the usefulness of fast forward in rpgs.

>>3364839
>I suppose Carver's body was carved up too?
Carver is a carpenter... That's the pun.

>Given Japan's taste for all things onomatopoetic
It just doesn't work in English. The Japanese has very few sounds compared to English, which means that even sounds that make sense (rain, animal cries) are very easy to pronounce. It's really awkward to say "whoosh" or "frizzle" in English, but the Japanese sounds for those things sound just like normal words.

The sound of fire is "meramera". That's it. It's nothing like the sound it makes in real life. That's why this onomatopoeia stuff works in Japanese. The translators should just ignore it.

Japanese is also a very punny language. Not because they are always making puns, but because the language has very few sounds. It has LOADS of homonyms, that's why kanji are useful. This makes it very easy to make clever puns without even trying. A lot of words sound exactly the same.

Doing this in English is, again, much harder. It ends up looking stupid, especially because the translators have to constantly invent puns that work in English. They are not talented enough to do this, but they have to do it. That's why we end up with so many cringeworthy puns. English is not a punny language and the translators don't have talent for this.

But the worst part is that they keep ADDING horrible puns that weren't there in the Japanese version. 75% of the puns in these games didn't even exist in the first place.

You may like the puns, but it's infuriating for the people that do not like them. Mostly because they are turning DQ into something it's not. These games are not supposed to be a fucking punfest.

>A city in the dream world ruled by someone who never sleeps? Somnia is a great name
Yeah, but the city in the real world is also named Somnia, even though it has NOTHING to do with insomnia or dreams. The king is always sleeping because of a curse, but the town always had the same name. It makes no sense.

>>3364839
I find the original names more weird and memorable. The punny names just kill my immersion.

>>3364820
>I can't resist the usefulness of fast forward in rpgs
Why? I can resist it easily because I know how much it breaks the games.

Unlike certain other rpgs, DQ games are very well balanced. Leveling up or farming gold with fast forward completely kills the games. You can easily become an overpowered, rich hero in a few minutes, removing any hint of difficulty.

I always play with the fast forward key disabled to avoid the tentation.

>>3364843
I love Maribel's faces in the artwork. How did Toriyama's art style become so shitty between DQ7 and DQ8? It's unbelievable.

>>3364948
By around DQV or VI he started to stop doing a lot of the work and had his personal artists that mimics his stuff do most of the work. From what I've heard he started going blind around the 90's.

Is there any way to do a solo challenge without carrying around Maribel's rotting corpse? Don't get me wrong, it's kind of hot to see that stuck-up bitch in such a disgusting and ungraceful state, but I don't want the townspeople to think that I'm a murderer or something.

>>3364957
>blind Toriyama
What? Seriously? Poor guy. This is Rustle all over again! Does it have something to do with being an artist or is it just a coincidence?

>>3364957
He sees well enough to call out Dragonball Super for looking like ass at least

>>3364968
>What? Seriously?

no

>>3364909
I guess my issue is that the translated names aren't distinct. Lifecod could be called Reidock and Reidock could be called Lifecod and there wouldn't be any issues. You can't do the same for the remake names since they're also a descriptor. This ends up making each name in the remake unique. I like that about them.

What is Sizz even called in Japan, do you know? I bet it's some nonsense word. The puns miss more often than they hit but DQ has never been a particularly dark or serious series so I don't really mind. A toggle in the options would be neat though.

>>3364295
I think it's the best thing of the new localisations, it makes it feel both vast and lighthearted at the same time.

>Jack of Alltrades Abbey

>>3365229
I don't necessarily disagree, but man... Warriors of Eden. Nothing could be cooler than that. Why change it?

>>3365251
For the sake of change. Just like everything else in the modern localizations.

>>3365217
Kafrizzle/Blazemost is called メラゾーマ (Merazoma) in Japanese. That one sounds fucking badass.

http://dragon-quest.org/wiki/Spell_List

>>3364770
>I think the "open" spell is the only one that is a pun in Japanese.
It's アバカム (Abakamu). According to Yuji Hori they gave the spell that name because it's what a girl would say if you opened a door while they were changing their clothes. "Aaa! Baka! Mu--".

The soldier dude from DQVII named Hank is Hanlon now. Dunno if that's closer to his JP name.

didn't see too many accents.

Monster betting in 4 is making me fucking ill.

>>3365306
You need to make a drinking game of it. I did with Slime racing in V.

Can you guess where I was laying after an hour?

>>3365294
Where did you see it

>>3365263
I think some people only defend the new localizations because they are too afraid to play the original games. They are forcing themselves to enjoy the accents and puns because they don't want to see the localized remakes as the unplayable pieces of crap they are.

>NES graphics are scary!
>I heard the games are Nintendo hard!!
>I can't move the camera???

I once defended the DQIV DS localization because I thought the NES games would look hideous and didn't want to "lose" the only way to play the game. Also, russian Alena is hot.

But seriously, the localizations are a fucking joke and the remakes aren't even as good as the originals. When I played Dragon Warrior IV, I finally realized how horrible the modern localizations are. They are downright disrespectful to the games.

Fuck Plus Alpha.

>>3365321
Give it a fucking rest NESautist.

>>3365294
What about Matilda? Will they name her Trunchbull for the boss battle?

Wow, DQ7 is the first game in the series that made me want to avoid spoilers as much as possible. If anyone else is playing it, I suggest they do the same. Some things are really surprising if you don't expect them.

>>3365321
>unplayable pieces of crap
You're exaggerating too far, the remakes are fine. The localizations are far more toned down from the DS remakes, you can see that by comparing DQIX to DQIV and V. Also, the phone remake of II is probably the best version of II yet. (I like the NES version more because of aesthetic reasons but it's not as balanced.)

>>3365321
Are you the guy who would rather see no DQ games brought to the west than to have them localized in their current way

>>3365334
>Redhead Moonbrooke
To hell with it.

>>3365340
She changes hair every remake, it's basically a tradition by now.

>>3365321
I enjoy the puns and the phonetics. I love wordplay on the English language. What are you going to do about it? Type a well-worded essay on why your opinion is better?

Stop bitching about the localization changes. You're playing a fan translated ROM or the original? Fucking good for you. You want a god damn medal from Square Enix's Japanese branch that says "#1 Fan"?

The fact that you feel the need to bring up how much you hate it in every post shows how much more you'd prefer to ruin discussion in these threads rather than contribute.

>>3365340
Does her carpet match the drapes?

>>3365352

Not this anon but also

>preferring the originals over the versions that have party chat

>>3365353
I bet it's dark purple. I've never seen a picture of it, though, because japs are fucking faggots who hate anime pubes.

>>3365361
Party chat is good, but everything else is shit. It's not worth it.

>>3365367
You really showed him with all of those examples you didn't post.

>>3365364
Also, whenever they give a character pubic hair, they also make her a MILF with ridiculously oversized breasts.

>Maribel will never ever have a hairy 13 year old pussy in doujins
Why live?

>>3365352
I like the monster names. An evil candle? Wax Murderer. A monster that hides in pots? Urnexpected. A ferocious, bipedal horse? Pummel Horse. There are hundreds of great names.

I have several problems with the new translations. For me, it smacks of translators thinking they're more clever writers than the original creators. You'd never have this kind of disrespect for the source material with say, Final Fantasy.

Character names: What the hell is the point? Why change Flora to Nera? Because of the potential for pun with Bianca? That goes out the window when they don't change Debora. Worse yet is when the puns arbitrarily put in pop culture references (Josef Starling for example). Key characters DEFINITELY shouldn't have name changes.

Place Names: Again, unnecessary. In general, Horii does a good job of creating unique sounding place names. I think the ONLY time I liked a translated name over the original name is Angel Falls vs Wollo Village. But that's it. Coffinwell was the worst.

Spell names: I used to be butthurt about it, but now I'm less so. I think quite a few of them miss the mark and are confusing to figure out what they do, but overall, it's not a bad attempt at localizing the Japanese names. Contrary to popular US opinion though, the Japanese names aren't onomatopoeia, they just nonsense words.

Text: Here is where I get the most upset. Their wanton use of dialects and puns and cultural references piss me off. Furthermore, when nearly ever scene has injected humor, it detracts from when the game actually is trying to be funny. Yes the series is more humorous than most other RPGs, but they're still fairly serious.

>>3365381
Isn't Marie Belle supposed to be 16?

Quick! Before you encounter another Translaturd tell us what your favorite Dragon Quest song is!

>>3365389
The fan translations are pretty bland though. I'd take the new scripts over them.

>>3365401
DQ2 town theme

>>3365381
You made me curious and the first thing I found is this doujin with Maribel raped by God. Uh.

>>3365217
The fire spell "Mera" is based off the sound of something burning. But on the other hand, the freezing spell, "Hyado" is based on the verb hiyasu 冷やす (to cool something down). The spell known as Return, or Zoom, Rula is probably based off the English word "Ruler" since it took you back to the castle of the king in the original game. The spell used to waken comrades "Zameha" is probably based of "Mezameru" 目覚める (to awake). So how should these be translated?

I would leave them as is. But I don't think the latest translation was completely offtrack in how it localized many of the spells. Some of them I think the older translation was closer in spirit and made more sense, but the fundamental strategy isn't on too shaky of ground.

>>3365407
God is cute! CUTE!

I hope they don't call him Numen in the remake. I liked how he was simply called "God" because he was the stereotypical "old man with a white beard" that most people associate with the Christian god.

>>3365419
He's going to be the Almighty or something like usual.
It's one of the changes that I actually like honestly.

>>3364961
Sorry, wagons didn't exist back then. If someone joins you, they will forever walk in a straight line behind you, even into the bathroom.

Come to think of it, are there any bathrooms in Maribel's mansion? I don't think so. Does she just take a bath in the beach or what?

>>3365352
Its definitely going to be opinion based, but the sad fact is, these changes have caused a kind of division in the once happy DQ community.

I won't deny many people like the style Plus Alpha came up with. But many others dislike it. And I can see where they're coming from. Even if I clamied to be okay with the accents (which I'm not), it changes the feeling you're suppose to get from the character. Yangus in the Japanese version of the PS2 game is obviously suppose to be your 'brute with a good heart' who is also quick tempered and easy to surprise. But there's more to him than that, a second layer that doesn't translate in words, but in action. He fits a very common stereotype in Anime, mainly Shonen Anime. On the flip side however, that extra 'layer' of his personality was kind of hidden in the western release. Instead it was replaced by a thick cockney acent and tons of excess dialogue. Scenes in the Japanese version which would have features no dialogue and instead focused on his visual reactions were 'translated' into the western version with 'COR BLIMEY' or 'LOVE A DUCK' and other such nonsense.

My point? While its obvious some things won't fully translate, the 'Honeywood' translation for DQVIII and later the Plus Alpha translations went too far and 'covered up' some things that could have been recognized, even by a western audience. I'd like to point out another accent filled game, Chrono Cross. While this game featured a number of accents for indavidual characters, the original core script was left intact as much as possible, as Honeywood worked directly with Masato Kano to decide how to change the dialogue as needed. This doesn't seem to be the case with the DQ localizations. Instead, most conflicts or things that were hard to translate seem to be blazently thrown out and replaced with British idoms or nonsense. And in the case of DQIV DS, Party Chat and some dialogue was removed completely.

>>3365470
It's only divisive if you let it. I'm fine with either version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViGQWRY2E00

gotta quest fast

>>3365401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdBFtOPE8IQ&index=2&list=PLCDD6B374E7A9CAD0

Should i play 7 on ps1 or should i wait for the 3ds version?
which one is better?

>>3365553
if you want to see more localized DQ then you should purchase 7 and if you are gonna buy it might as well play that version. or just play whatever don't feel guilty if you emulate it.

Punny town names confirmed:

Ruins = Shrine of Mysteries
Fishbel = Pilchard Bay
Rexwood = Ballymolloy
Engow = Emberdale
Orph = L'Arca
Falrod = Faraday
Dharma Temple = Alltrades Abbey
Mezar = La Bravoure
Sim Town = The Haven
Monster Park = Monster Meadows
Bard = Troubadour
Deja Sword = Sword of Roamers

Loomin is Nottagen potentially, (something is Nottagen, as there was a save file in "Nottagen Well").

>>3365401
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcGEHWKpnOY
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=53dKqYIsiDU
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n2KLcjxtlWU
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sF8M0a4JIZo
There are so many great ones, these are some favorites though.
>hearing the overworld theme in IV when you have all the party members for the first time
It was so cool, hearing it again on my later playthroughes was cool as well but that first time really stuck with me.

>>3365571
>Ruins = Shrine of Mysteries
... Will they say "shrine of mysteries" every time they talk about the ruins? Even the scholars in Estard that think it's just an ancient royal graveyard?

>Rexwood = Ballymolloy
So... Rex's name is now Bally? Or Molloy? The fuck?

>Orph = L'Arca
Oh, how funny! L'Arca! As in Noah's ark! Because there are lots of animals in it! Even though the town only had wolves protecting it and didn't have anything to do with animals before the monster cursed everyone.

WHY?

>>3365603
>Deja Sword
Because the original names suck cock

>>3365610
You didn't even play the game and you know it.

>>3365571
Is there any confirmation that the symphonic music was replaced yet?

>>3365630
It's basically confirmed now. I'm fine with it, because we will have the full songs instead of the abridged versions Japan got.

I heard Sugiyama was against having orchestrated music in the remake. He was right. Some of the best songs are several minutes long, but the remake cuts half of the songs.

>DQ7 in Japanese had the music ruined
>DQ7 outside Japan will have a shitty translation
It sucks. I guess the original is still the definitive version.

>>3365630
No, there isn't, and frankly it wouldn't be a bad thing anyway since the Japanese version didn't even have the whole score. Every single track was cut off and looped long before the whole theme played out. I'd rather have the whole song in synth midi than a chopped up orchestration.

>>3365553
Play the original. The remake looks better, but that's it.

People often refuse to play the original games and go straight to the horribly translated DS remakes just because they look modern. But these same people refuse to play the original DQ7 (that looks just like the DS remakes) and decide to wait for the 3DS version. It's stupid.

>>3365674
>horribly translated
lol

>>3365623
I did. It was a stupid fucking name then, it's a stupid fucking name now.

The remake is going to be full of memes isn't it?

>I can't talk about Dragon Quest on /vr/ anymore with all of this translation shitposting from both sides

Well these were fun while they lasted.
I'll see you all in HFIL.

>>3364348

Clearly, you didn't talk enough with Debora...

She respects the Hero strengh and bravery. Of course she acts as a tsundere, but she opens her heart a lot of times.

Clearly best fucking waifu in DQ V you, fucking beta-fag

>>3365674
>>3365662
>>3365683
>Any amount of liberties makes it Horribly Translated

I like that Horii wanted the series to be entirely accessible and all, but the game would be criticized if the script was too dry because English isn't as capable of the sort of inflection that Japanese can be (the original LoZ, for instance.) It would probably come off as somewhat dry and boring (which the GB translations do come off as, though I love those remakes)

Also there are too many instances of quality of life in the remake to make it not the definitive version, DQVII on PS1 was rushed and suffered from a lot of the same problems that DQII did. Both of the Hearbeat Dragon Quests I'd reckon represent a decline in polish for the series that was only recovered by Level-5.

>>3365694
>>3365694
The remakefags should just go to back to /v/. What are they even doing here?

>>3365683
Nintendo isn't localizing it, so no.

>>3365717
You're embarrassing yourself, dude.

>>3365717
The only remakes that aren't retro are 5, 6, 7, and 8's. 1, 2, 3, and 4 are all fair game.

>>3365708
The wives in V are nothing special, all of them are pretty forgettable.

Bianca could've been cool but other then spending one night with her she has no real characterization. She's kinda just generic.

Nera/Flora is the "sweet and cute" shy innocent girl. She appears out of nowhere and has no real characterization.

And Deborah is your "tsundere" who's a jerk at first but becomes more sweet as time goes on. While she has actual character development its the expected development every character archetype like her does.

Honestly it feels weird how much emphasis the wife aspect is given, it felt so rushed to me. The game had so many other cool aspects and themes yet they chose that. Still the idea of of battling evil with your wife and kids is so cool, I wish more games did this. Closest example that comes to mind is mother 3 and even then all you do is play as the heroes father at one point.

>>3365784
I haven't made it beyond Zoomingale and getting the fire ring from Mt. Gofuckmyself.

Is that guy the hero from the future?

>>3365797
Do you really want us to spoil it?

>>3365806
Yeah. I mean you guys already told me about his parents in great detail. I'm still going to see it through.

>>3365812
Alrighty, then. Yes, it's the Hero from the future.
At some point you're required to get an item that was destroyed during your youth, so you get the opportunity to travel to the past to collect it.

>>3365825
That's pretty neat.

I wish more JRPGs would let you live out most of the character's life on a mssive journey like this one does.

>>3364462
Typical cuck talk.

>>3365862
Literally all of the porn of Bianca involves the hero being cucked by a horse monster.

Debora is too possessive to cuck the hero.

>>3365862
Even Debora says you're too good to replace. Face it, she's the only one that gets development.

how do you guys prefer your dq translations?

I like dry translations with character and town names being close as possible to the originals. i'm not too picky with spell and attack names, as long as the name makes sense. Both sides have some bad spell names imo.

>>3365936
I don't give a shit about anything being changed to be honest. And all of this bickering about translation seems silly and pointless.

>I'm in the village of Imanidiot
>What? You mean Bokugaaho Town?
>I guess, yeah
>Oh cool. So you clear that area by doing such and such
Really simple. But people just want to find a good excuse to argue.

>>3365956
No one cared about the translations in these threads until that one nesfag showed up anyway.

>>3363261
They reduce both your character and the enemy to 20% HP. It has its uses, but I don't think it works against bosses.

Holy shit. This is what happens if you fill the immigrant town in DQ7 with priests.

Sim's Diary: "Page 250 - The city has grown bloated with clergy. The women
that have been drawn to this town are so cold and demure. I went to the temple
again this morning. It's become a part of my daily ritual. Every day, I pray
for God to annihilate the religious zealots that now choke the roads of
'town name'. I pray that they all die suffering."

This old guy is insane.

>>3366041
holy shit

Mariberu is cute! CUTE!

>>3366041
You know what to do

>>3366041
That old fool is never happy no matter what final town you get. I feel bad for him.

I never got the farm town, but I heard God can live there as an immigrant. He doesn't like the other towns and hates the priest town because religious people are annoying. Lmao.

>>3366125
Ruberima is tecu! TECU!

>>3365419
It's the eyes. So simple yet so charming.

>>3365340
That's probably the best non-hentai Moonbrooke picture ever.

I think this one is the cutest Barbara ever drawn. And it's by Toriyama himself!

Bonerider.

>talk to a priest to see if he has something unique to say
>it's a normal priest
>accidentally press "save" while trying to skip the text
>"oh, do you want to save?"
>no, I don't feel like it right now, it takes too long
>"do you want to keep playing"
>accidentally say no while mashing the cancel button
>"good night my child, go with many blessings"
>"you can turn off the console now"
>oh shit when did I save last?! NOOOO!!!

Seriously, fuck priests. I think this was necessary back in the day when you had to reset the console in a certain way to avoid losing your progress, but why is it still a thing?

Truly the worst thing about DQ.

>used up literally half a character's MP trying to vivify another character, who just would not fucking come back to life
fucking hell that's bullshit sometimes

>>3366172
Cool copypasta, bra

>>3361179
>dat fanart
Rapey the horse is such a great character. He should get his own spin-off.

>>3366172
It would be cool if the priest class had a "save" skill that allowed you to save anywhere.

>>3366185
But that's what "Yell Help" is for

>>3366160
Barbara, Maribel and Jessica are the sluttiest DQ girls because they can learn puff-puff.

>>3366219
Milly can too. So can the VI guys. Don't slut shame though

>>3366224
>Melvin can become a TeenIdol
HOW?

>>3366224
>Puff-puff does damage when the guys use it
It's the little things

>>3366219
Barbara is surprisingly pure and innocent, though. She reminds me of Rosie from Animal Crossing. She's carefree and outgoing, but not a sassy tomboy like Maribel. Truly the nicest DQ girl.

Maybe it's because she has amnesia... I think she never really recovers from it, even after the ending. That's kind of sad.

Jessica is a total slut, though.

>>3366245
Jessica's not a slut, she just has an erotic body. She can't help it.

>>3366245
>Barbara
>pure and innocent

How much do you guys think a copy of dragon warrior vii but wanted to know a good price for it. I've found copies going for as low as $30 to as high as $80.

>>3366252
If you party chat after talking to various dancing bunny girls she always talks about how fun it looks and how she wants to try. If you chat with Milly in the same way, she starts shaking her hips and dancing.

Unused boss design in DQIII, the DQ art book had a lot of cool prototype or unused stuff. If anyone either has that book or knows where scans of it can be found please share.

>>3366252
>you can almost see her pubes
Best girl.

>>3366264
They should have used that oni guy.

>>3366253
How many copies did it sell back then? I think not even 1000 people played it. It's sad because there's so much fucking text in the game and they actually translated all of it.

>>3365410
Ah, so some onomatopoetic after all. Sounds like the new names do an okay job of expressing the original intent; though some could be more literal:, I wouldn't have a problem with Crack being Freeze. Rula being Return/Zoom is clever

Thanks for the info.

>>3366252
>the hero will never see her again
A fate worse than death.

>>3366280
Google tells me 210,000 copies sold in the US, I imagine the Toriyama art helped a bit with how big dragon ball was in the late 90's to early 2000's.

>>3366319
Ironic since 7 is the game where toriyama stopped blatantly ripping off his DB designs

>>3366280
>I think not even 1000 people played it
Yeah, I like to pull numbers out of thin air without anything to back them up too. I can't believe people on /vr/ take some of the biggest franchises in gaming and pretend like they're the only people in the world that played them just so they can feel like special little snowflakes.

>tfw visiting the DQV version of Reaper's Peak
>DQV MC tells VI's MC to take care of his parents
>all the other cameos

>>3366245
The fact that she's got an ass is just mindblowing! She's so cute, but she's actually got an ass! Lewd! Pathetic! Humiliating!

>>3366802
She can't help it, dude. All humans have butts. Don't make fun of her.

Are you the Maribelfag from the last thread?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gkpmAjYHBI

>>3366253
I love Aira's red lipstick.

>>3367139
A lot of early Toriyama drawings had the girls with lipstick.

>>3366219
Bulma is a slut

>>3367168
That's not Bulma, it's the transforming pig.

>>3367168
She's kind of slutty, yeah.

>>3366245
Wait a minute, who's the third chick

>>3367181
Child Goku Dragon Ball was the best Dragon Ball.

>>3367183
Tania

>>3367183
Tania. Your sister in Dream Lifecod. She should have been a pa

>>3367187
A party member. Fuck.

>>3367185
>>3367187
Oh, right.
Completely forgot about her.

>>3367192
>forgetting about your dear sister

>>3367192
Why is DQ6 so forgettable even though it has some of the coolest moments in the series? I only remember it because Barbara is cute! CUTE!

>>3367193
It's worse when people forget about the hero's real loli sister.

>>3367184
It's actually one of the reasons I love original Dragon Ball over Z. I just enjoyed how Goku was just exploring the world without any real common sense. He was just enjoying himself as we were enjoying the world. Even Red Ribbon was fun because Goku didn't even know what they were planning just that he wanted his 4 star ball back. Once it was almost all about fighting and training to save the world it slowly lost me.

>>3367184
LMAO

I need to read Dragonball one day. I've heard Dr. Slump is fucking hilarious, too.

>>3367203
The Frieza saga was really cool, but everything after that was just more of the same. It's not like the manga stopped being good or anything, but it never managed to recapture the awesomeness of the child Goku and Frieza arcs.

My favorite villain was Tao Pai Pai. He defied the laws of physics. But the most memorable scene for me was that part when adult Goku used the spaceship to travel to Planet Namek while training using the Gravity Machine, slowly increasing the gravity from 10x to 20x and so on.

Every time he managed to move without any problems at 20x gravity and then returned the gravity to normal, you really could feel how strong he was. He was able to move and hit things 20 times faster! It was more impressive than any SSJ transformation.

>>3367203
>>3367228
I wish Horii made a DQ game loosely based on the early parts of Dragon Ball.

>>3367228
I agree that it never got bad (well except Buu) it just seem to turn from just a fun adventure comic to just a manga about training and fighting. You kind of see it right before Z started with him against Piccolo in the tournament. Once that started it stop really becoming anything more than that. Original was weird and made little sense but I feel that's what made it fun. There was a rabbit that turned people into carrots, pig that can transform into anything he wants for a short period of time, a cat that trained people, and actually meeting what is meant to be Earth God. The only interesting thing once Z started was a guy that can switch minds which kind of ends a bit too fast and it's that interesting because he was just a henchmen for Frieza.

>>3367236
Well... close enough?

Toriyama has dozens of awesome pre-DB one-shots. Some of them are insanely good.

>>3367245
And a taco queso que pasa to you, ninyo

>>3367245
Rape isn't funny

>>3367245
The adventures of Tongpoo is my favorite. I almost wish this had become a full manga instead of DB.

It's hard to find good non-censored scans of the Dragon Ball manga online, but thankfully these one-shots are easy to find.

>>3367252
Its not rape if u pay

>>3367206
>I've heard Dr. Slump is fucking hilarious
The first chapter is all about the doctor trying to see a real pussy with his x-ray glasses because his loli robot wants to have one but he's never seen the real thing. It only gets better from there.

There's also this tween girl named Akane who is a total cuteslut.

>>3367264
>mangafox watermark
I hope they get cancer.

>>3366802
>>3366845
Ephraim sauntered, wiggling his buttock-augmentation. Life couldn't get any better. This, he knew, was due to an incontrovertible fact:

Naked asses are the final equalizer. Everyone's got an ass and, if honestly appraised, they all look ridiculous.

Imagine Saddam naked, awkwardly bending for the soap. Or Osama squatting in a humid cave. Don't seem so threatening now do they?

The ass has equalized.

But Ephraim thought he had the system beat. His logic; if all asses are ridiculous, then mine will be the most ridiculous of them all.

I will be King of all Asses.

A difficult point to argue.

>>3367264
>It's hard to find good non-censored scans of the Dragon Ball manga online

wait, what? It has a few naked asscracks and maybe they show Bulmas tits twice, and that's it. They censored even that?

>>3367295
It had Goku dick all over the place. He loves to undress all the time in the early manga.

>>3367295
Some early English translations completely change the text to remove anything naughty, censor Bulma's nipples, edit the scene when Bulma tells Goku that he can touch her butt, cover Bulma's ass in that one infamous scene with Master Roshi... Things like that.

This image is censored in some versions. They removed Oolong's mental image explaining what a puff-puff is.

I wish I could find the entire manga somewhere without any censorship.

>>3367319
Forgot the picture.

>>3367295
It's mainly the dialogue that's censored. There is a scene where Goku asks Bulma why she has "a butt on her chest", but some translations completely ignore the original text and change it into something completely innocent.

Some versions edited this scene by covering Bulma's panties but leaving her hands in the same position, which makes no sense.

The problem is that a lot of sites have the full manga but with some chapters censored. If I want to collect and preserve all the volumes in my HDD, I'm fucked.

The Spanish translation didn't censor anything at all and I have the whole thing on .pdf, but I like to read manga in English for some reason. It sucks that Dragon Ball was butchered like this.

>>3367228

I theory, Toriyama wanted to end the manda with Freezer. Goku is the legendary Saiyan, kills Freezeer, and dies. End.

>>3367302
I hate how mangas like Dragon Ball or Crayon Shin-chan aren't afraid to show a little boy's dick and ass for comedy, but they never show lolis naked. Doraemon is the only glorious exception.

>>3367346
I hate how localizers think westerners can't sexuality. To them Japanese are crazy and have to go out of their way to cover up and tame their media because of "different cultures." What sucks is that I don't even like what people on social media are handling it because they just attack over and over thinking it somehow is helpful. Instead of try to be productive.

I don't even want to see naked/sexuality in the games but I don't want to be treated like somehow they need to protect me from other people's ideas.

>>3367382
I hate how sex is such a fucking taboo in the west. When I was a kid I wanted to fuck all my loli classmates because the fact that they had butts was just absolutely mindblowing. Why do they need to censor things to make them "kid friendly"? It's fucking absurd.

>>3366802
Not this shit again.

>>3367405
I refuse to believe that all your classmates were good-looking.

>>3367405
Yeah I have no idea. Funny is my parents didn't really care what I watched. They let me watch R rated movies all the time with tons of sex and violence and never thought anything wrong by it. What I hate is that it seem like this is just something that happens because everyone does it. And anyone that tries to argue against it are just people that are sexually surpassed and need a outlet. Maybe it's we are not in the 80's and 90's and understand games had sex and violence since the start and we are ok with it.

>>3367242
Pan is the worst

>>3367681
>GT
>Make Goku a kid again and seem like he's back to his childlike fun
>Could have him team with Gohan and have childish fun with his son
>Decided to team with Pan who all she does is tell him to act like an adult
I guess they wanted her as a Bulma of sort but Bulma in DB more or less like Goku do whatever he wants.

>>3365571

Shrine of Mysteries is an accurate translation of 謎の神殿. Monsters Meadows is fine, it's basically the same thing, as is Troubadour/Bard. I don't remember the Immigrant Town being called "Sim town". Yeah, looking it up on the Japanese wiki it's just "Immigrant Town". Most of those seem absolutely fine. I suspected that Engow might be a reference to Embers anyway. Just "Em" from "Embers" and "Glow" stuck together, which transliterated comes out as "Engow".

>>3367774

Oh yeah, "Rexwood" was called "Wood Paruna" in Japanese, because the hero who saved it was called Paruna. Rexwood was fine, but Ballymolloy is weird.

>>3365603


L'Arca is a weird one. Orph was actually pretty close to it's Japanese name (Orphi). Not sure if there's a reference hidden in the name or if it was just a made up name.

>>3367681
But she's such a cute as hell preeen loli kid! She even has an ass! Lewd!

Pan is the second best DB.

>>3367794
Seriously, what is wrong with you?

>>3367808
Mental problems, all we can do is hope this is either "ironic" or that he eventally kills himself.

>>3367405

More than in the west... Specially in USA.

In Europe, usually, we don't have sex as a big taboo. At least, not as big as in USA.

But today... Thanks, Nintendo, to use the american localization for european people too. Fuck you, Nintendo. Fuck you.

>>3367905
The thing is I don't even thing it's that taboo here in the USA. It's just that a few Christian mothers talk about how it's evil but outside of them most parents most likely doesn't really care. Sex is everywhere here it's just that people THINK it's taboo so they censor their games which case news places to talk about it which makes people think they are right because of how focus we are at the censorship.

>>3367905
But Nintendo stopped using the US localizations for EU a long time ago because of the Mario Party Fiasco.

>>3367926
FE Fates used the same script.

>>3367930
Huh. Guess they decided it was too much trouble to do two separate English scripts after all.

>>3367930
I'm so sorry to hear that.
>Benoit
>Benny
I can never get over this.

>>3367936
>>3367940
I knew all hope was lost once I saw the infamous TECHNICALLY ADULT line.

>>3367945
>Fire Emblem 4 comes to the American eShop
>The script is Google translated and they tack on a S-rank system for the new generation of FE fans

>>3367808
Lolis have butts, dude.

>>3367905

>In Europe, usually, we don't have sex as a big taboo.

That's always seemed to be the case, and being an American I can't really tell, but it seems like Europe's getting more prudish these days, at least when it comes to video games.

>Fatal Frame II comes out for the Xbox. Bikinis are okay. They were removed from the remake.
>Changing a line about Tharja's soft boobs to her soft hair

And some other things I can't think of at the moment.

>>3367926
>the Mario Party Fiasco.

Never heard of this, what happened

>>3368105
That's because Europe used our translation and edits to save time.

Don't forget that based NoE did the Xenoblade translation / dub and it was phenominal.

>>3368116

Yeah, I've heard that excuse before too, but the Fatal Frame II Wii remake never came out in America, only Japan and Europe. And the thing about Tharja's hair was actually left alone in the NA version.

>>3368109
Mario Party 8's use of the word "spastic" got it recalled and temporarily banned in the UK until a revision changed it.

After that, Nintendo decided to have NoE do their own separate English translations for games for release in EU.

NoA and NoE both seem befuddle how they should localize their games. Sometimes they seem fine with sexual stuff in their games while others times they feel the need to cover things up. I have a theory that there are people within the localization teams that want to keep most if not everything and slowly trying to win over people there. Since before any sexualization in almost any form was bad now they leave things in. Not saying its great because of dumb things like #FE having to completely rewrite a whole chapter because of NoA but I do think they are trying at times.

>>3368152
Localization changes and censorship is mostly due to idiots and people who get offended by them.

These people should not be employed.

>>3368152
or maybe different games get localized by different people

nintendo only tends to localize first or second party games themselves

>>3368158
I have a feeling games that Nintendo publishes over here gets a letter from NoA on things they feel might be best taken out. Yeah Atlus localized #FE but do you really think Atlus would have gone as far as they did without NoA having some sort of hand in it? Feel localizers has a choice in the matter on listening to Nintendo or not (Bayonetta 2 for instance) but some think that NoA would know best about their audience and do what they are told. Hence why when it comes to Nintendo publish games they tend to get more localized with the outfits than most other games.

Borkano is now Pollock. What the fuck.

>>3368197
Yes it's a pun. Just throw it in the other giant pile of other puns. Personally I like it but I'm from Massachusetts where we have a few places around us with fish puns. So it feels like home for me.

>>3368197
Borkano is such a badass dad. Literally better than Papas. His name sounds like volcano, too!

Pollock sound really fucking gay.

Remember how Patrick was mature as fuck and spoke like an adult? They threw that out the fucking window.

I can't wait to talk to all the Scottish people in BALLYMOLLOY just as Horii intended!

>>3368197
Who cares?

>>3368236
oh no, they made a kid speak like a kid

>>3368157
Not everyone likes to see titties flashed on their face when playing a game in front of the family.

>>3368245
>playing video games in front of the family
I'm sorry, I had to.

>>3368245
>having a prudish family
Prudes can go fuck themselves, it doesn't matter if they are my relatives or even my own parents. Fuck them.

>>3368245
What, did they slap you with a ruler whenever you say a "no-no" word too?

How old are you anyway?

>>3368242
He wasn't supposed to speak like a kid. You are either stupid or a troll.

>>3368265
>He wasn't supposed to speak like a kid

Says who?

>>3368271
Says people who played the original PS1 localization and take it as 1:1 with the Japanese script.

>>3368274
Oh, do ANY kids talk like kids in the localized PS1 version?

>>3368265
>>3368274
Oh, you mean the shitty rushed translation that a smaller team worked on that had a large amount of errors? That translation?

>>3368236
Good thing I'm just pirating it.

>>3368271
A loli in the town literally says that Patrick doesn't want to play with her because he's too mature.

She's got a butt btw ;)

>>3368281
Yeah but that doesn't mean he talks like an adult.

>>3368279

there werent any errors on the ps1 script, gee
why would you need a big team for a translation progress anyway, all you need is two guys and one for proof reading

>>3368281
Bring me a screenshot of the kid speaking in Japanese. I can tell you if he's speaking like an adult or not.

>>3368293
Look out, we have a professional translator in here

>>3368279
You clearly didn't play the game. The translation was really good, except for a few typos.

Stop lying, you piece of shit.

>>3368292
>Enix of America was tasked with translating over 70,000 pages of text via 20 translators and 5 copy editors.
>70,000 pages
>Only 2 guys

>>3368295
Not professional. I just spent the past 3 years of my free time learning Japanese. I'm not fluent, but I can definetly tell the difference between how a child and adult talks in Japanese.

>>3368293
Translate this first so I know you're legit.

>>3368302
>3 years
>not fluent
Why is this language so fucking hard? Jesus. Can you at least read kanji without problem?

>>3368306
>furigana

Fucking why?

>>3367346
Bulma is a butt-having whore! She should be ashamed of hersel!

>>3368492
can't you just leave

>>3368236

>Remember how Patrick was mature as fuck and spoke like an adult?

Guess what. He only did that in the localization. In the Japanese version? He speaks like a kid.

>>3368274

>Says people who played the original PS1 localization and take it as 1:1 with the Japanese script.

Ahahahaha. You have no fucking idea what went on in the localization of that game. I've seen bits and pieces of the English localization, and it's pretty dry, but accurate in several places, but there are also times when the localizers "spiced things up". Like the "little slave girl" comment the Wind spirit made. Not in the Japanese version at all. And do you remember the joke Sharkeye made about turning a guy into a slave? Not in the Japanese PSX or 3DS version at all.

It's a late 90s PSX RPG localization, and it shows. It's overly literal and dry in places, it's overly liberal and punched up in others.

A'ight, /vr/, here we go.

https://youtu.be/KbaVRenS1tg?t=483

>”Sorry for startling you. I got scared, thinking monsters had discovered this house. I’m Patrick… But anyway, you guys are travelers, right!? So have you seen a girl called Matilda anywhere? Really!? Woo… great. Matilda is protecting this town from monsters right now, but I haven’t seen her lately… Father’s injured too, and even Matilda’s gone…”
>Father moans a bit
>”Father… Are you alright? Is your injury hurting you? Oh, I’m sorry, I just cut off in the middle of talking to you… This person sleeping here is my father. Father’s a warrior of the village. He was injured in a fight with some monsters while trying to save the women… The doctor said that we need a glittering, green gemstone to cure him, but the mine to the south east is full of monsters now, so no one can get it. I was hoping to ask Matilda to go get it if I saw her. If you guys see her, could you pass along the message? I’d like to go look for her myself, but I’ve got to watch my father…

I don't know what he talks like in the English PSX version, I've never played it, but in the Japanese version, he kinda speaks in a mature tone. I mean, just looking at the text there's nothing all that special about it, but he's serious, and a surprising amount of kanji is used in his dialogue. Usually, small kids like that speak almost entirely in kana, it's a sign of immaturity. If I recall correctly, the Keeper's Diary in Resident Evil was like that, had more and more kana the more and more the writer's mind deteriorated. I've also seen stuff like that in other things as well. But Patrick here uses more kanji in his dialogue than I'd expect for a kid his age to use. I didn't really think about it when I first played the game, but this talk about how he speaks got me thinking about it.

So yeah, it seems like he has a bit of a mature tone in the Japanese versions.

>>3368631

To add to this, just judging from this one screenshot >>3368236, the new localization seems absolutely fine.

>>3367926
I think that they started to recycle script (if not all, at least they reviewd all to prevent problems) and unify the censorship, in Smash Bros 3DS.


Returning to Dragon Quest...
What do you think about this? Remember that today, Dragon Quest VII had near zero publicity...

Can be this a good sight for releasen more DQ games?

>>3365401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iecrO2vtA6g

Does dragon quest v have any skills that can only be used if holding a specific weapon?
If not, boomerangs and whips seem to be the best weapons.

>>3369503
On single bosses boomeramgs aren't good

That being said, they are amazing otherwise

>>3369503
Boomerangs and whips disable critical hits and you eventually find swords that are much stronger.

>>3369408
Possibly yeah, also I like how Toriyama's art style is probably popular throughout all of the Spanish speaking world.

>>3369713
>I like how Toriyama's art style is probably popular throughout all of the Spanish speaking world.


just reminded me i can play them in spanish and skip the accents. thanks

If I've only played the remake of DQ5 on DS but really liked it, which games should I try next?

>>3369952

III, IV, VII 3DS, or VIII.

Dragon Quest V has some really annoying parts in the beginning sections aka go talk to everyone otherwise you can't go any further. There have been like three of those sections where I'm at. I also had a glitch in the ds version where bishop ladja would always assess the situation instead of attacking, has anyone else had this problem?

Please post more old Toriyama art if you have any.
His stuff used to be so incredibly charming.

>>3369952
Seconding >>3369958

>>3369940
>play them in spanish and skip the accents
What? The accents in Spanish are even worse. All the European translations are based on the English ones. That means they have accents and puns up the ass, but they are even dumber because it's a translation of a translation.

Ragnar speaks normally in Spanish. Alena's chapter is even worse than in English because all the dialogue is written with a mix of normal and cyrillic letters (backwards R's and shit like that). Taloon's accent is barely noticeable, but he's not Irish. I think he's supposed to speak like an Arabic person. Nara and Mara's chapter is full of incomprehensible French sentences and characters speaking Spanish with a French accent, which is even more annoying than in English.

In 5, all the main villains speak broken Spanish with cyrillic letters too. Deborah is called Stephania. Ludman is "Santino Rimaldi". There are a few towns with accents, just like in English.

In 6, Terry is Norris (a horrible Chuck Norris reference, probably because he's so strong), Milayou is Mencía, Barbara is Lucía (cute name, though), Hassan is Ebanisto and speaks like a person from Andalusia (kind of like a hick, but less bad), Amos is Aniceto and speaks in Catalan (a sort of dialect of Spanish that could be considered its own language, it's like Ragnar's Scottish accent), Chamoro is Francis. Calberona is called Meigan, which is an improvement from Sorceria in my opinion.

The games are filled with puns and accents, and most of the time they are even worse than in English because European translators didn't come up with this shit and don't have the passion for puns that Plus Alpha had. The puns are horrible and lazy.

IX is filled with Spanish pop culture references and Chiquito de la calzada jokes (a 90's comedian known for having dozens of dumb catchphrases).

>its 21 instead of 20 for all the skills

well good thing I decided to see if I was off by a level.

>>3369982
Do you know anything about the French translation? I've thought about giving it a try, but now I'm worried it might be as bad as the Spanish one.

Which Dragon Quest is the most Good vs Evil of the bunch?

>>3369962
I'll never understand this complaint. You are supposed to talk to everyone. That's the point of playing these games. The NPCs are usually interesting and the bulk of the story is told through them.

Do people seriously play DQ games without talking to everyone? They are really missing out.

I would understand it if you already played the game before and don't want to talk to absolutely everyone again. In DQ6, you have to talk to the prisoner in the Reidock prison to make captain Tom appear. That doesn't make much sense, but the triggers are usually very intuitive.

>>3370003
Dragon Quest II

>>3370007
I almost always talk to everyone I can, but when I'm forced to do it that is where it isn't fun anymore.

Friendly reminder that if you recommend the DS remakes over the original superior games then you should kill yourself.

>>3370003
The Dragonlord is evil, but you just want to become famous and fuck the princess.

Hargon wants Malroth to destroy the world. Maybe he has reasons beyond being evil.

Zoma is a fucking bastard who becomes stronger by making people suffer. The heroes are good people with noble intentions.

Saro is the least evil villain in the series.

Mildrath is a bastard, but he barely does anything by himself.

Deathtamoor is a more evil version of Zoma. His world is designed to make people suffer and he can even turn back time to make those greedy people kill each other over and over again.

Orgodemir is literally Satan.

I'd say 3 or 6. Probably 6 because Deathtamoor keeps fucking with people even after they are dead.

>>3369958
Thanks, I think I'll check out 3 first.

>>3370038
I still don't understand what's so bad about it.

>Fuck, I can't find the trigger to advance the plot!
If you can't find it, that means you didn't talk to everyone. You don't want to find it before talking to everyone else because doing so might change their dialogue.

>>3370042
They are shit, but some people can't appreciate the real games. They will never play them, so it's better if they at least play the remakes and contribute to the fandom.

>>3370042
>>3370072
Holy shit how salty can one person get?
Why do you care so much if someone plays a remake over the original?

>>3370054
Psaro always was an asshole, regardless of the circumstances.
The least evil is Corvus.

>>3369408
Europe LOVES Toriyama. France in particular has always had a weird relationship with Japan. So I can see them going head over heel over getting a DQ game that they could never touch.

>>3369982
>all the main villains speak broken Spanish with cyrillic letters too
Like this?

>>3370106
no the opposite of that

>>3369940
No, the European >>3370106
No, it's just a few letters that look similar to ours, like the backwards N and R. It can very confusing if you actually know how to read Russian letters.

>>3370123
What. Ignore the first line, I don't know what happened there.

I'm loving DQ7 so far, but who thought those godawful 3D cutscenes were a good idea? Layla's dance was supposed to be beautiful, but it made me laugh.

>>3369962
>bishop ladja would always assess the situation instead of attacking

In the Ancient Ruins fight or the Nadiria fight? He's supposed to assess a lot in the ruins one.

>>3370138
Ruins, when you are a child. He is supposed to assess, chuckle, then attack. In my game he only assessed for like 30 turns. I fixed it by reloading and the fight went as intended

>>3370154
Oh, weird. Hey, you could have killed him if his AI got stuck!

>>3370158
I think that fight is scripted so you can't win, but he does have a health pool of like 3500. I fought him like that for a good ten minutes

>>3370158
>>3370165

Huh, wonder what would happen if you drain his HP there? I might have to try it on an emulator.

>>3367293
This is genuinely funny, but please stop trying to equalize Maribel. She'd never be as shameless as to do toilet stuff. She's a pure girl.

>>3369982

I started playing IV in Spanish, because "hey, they translated it... let's give some use".
When I saw some items with, for a guy who played DQ 1-3, wrong names... I changed to english.

With few minutes of gameplay, I had to try to decipher what the fuck are talking Ragnar and his friends, so I changed to spanish again. "Nice, no more stupid accents"

WRONG. What an awful translation, goddammit...

>In 5, all the main villains speak broken Spanish with cyrillic letters too. Deborah is called Stephania.

Holly shit... What a nice decission to play that in english.

And the rest... What an atrocius spanish translations...

>Chiquito de la calzada jokes
[Screams internally]

Quick if you had to date a Monster from DQ which would you date and why!?! Hurry up!

>>3370472

>>3370425
They Chiquito jokes aren't that frequent, but they really make me cringe when they appear. The main problem with IX's Spanish translation is that the whole thing feels like a Francisco Ibañez comic. Some of the expressions they use wouldn't be out of place in Mortadelo y Filemón.

>>3369982
holy shit you are right. i only looked at mc ryans chapter and assumed the whole game was normal. what a mess. so its either shit translations or fan translations+glitches.

Just started replaying Dragon Quest III, on SNES this time.

Hero Dealer Cleric Fighter is a good party, right?

Also how do I get my girls sexy

>>3370472
Can I stick my dick in a Slime? That might feel nice...

>>3370571
its tempting but sexy personality will fuck up your party

>>3370472
the one and only

>>3370582
How so? Haven't played the game in a while

>>3370587
personality dictates your stat growth. for example the smart personality will give you more MP each level while the Bully personality will raise your Atk damage. Sexy personality is well rounded but that means your charcters wont excel at anything thus becoming infective.
i made the female hero sexy on my first play through only to realize you cant change classes to become a bunny girl and i was left with shit stats.

>>3370592
ok i got it, thanks

>start playing DQIII
>the game tells me that I'm a violent person and a bully
Who the hell wrote this shit?

>>3370545
You could just play the original games and avoid all that shit. Only 5 and 6 have fan translations, but 5 is free of glitches and 6's glitches can be easily avoided.

>>3370608
It's calling me lazy! Ha!
*sobs*

>>3370608
Don't take it to heart. You can answer as honestly as you can and you'll get a completely different outcome 8 times out of ten.

>>3370596
The sexy personality is op with its stat growth, at least it was for me. Same with lucky for male characters

>>3370608
The speech for being Lewd is hilarious. It says you're so lewd you're probably thinking about boys/girls right now!

>>3370592
But sexy is the best all around. It gives 110%/120%/105%/115%/120%. No other personality has that many combined bonuses. In fact, most have less than 100% in at least one aspect. They're modifiers to that class's base growth so everyone benefits.

I'd call it the best personality.

>>3370614
Would you just fuck off already

>>3370592

I didn't have any issues when I got my entire team the sexy personality. Still, that's my one gripe about the SFC version, I'd prefer it with no personalities.

YEAHHHHHH

this is the best minigame. Love it in DQV too. Its total horseshit and randomness, but good god is it rewarding once you finally win.

>>3370658
I'm playing III SFC right now too. The rewards are broken as fuck, but it's really fun.

>>3370658
I usually win Pacheesi within the first 3 tries. I guess I've never been that unlucky.

>>3370663
>find a random item shop
>sells FLAMERANG

aw yeah

I wouldn't say the rewards are broken considering the effort needed.

sleep tight dealer

>>3370658
>gutted from the mobile version

>>3370637
>>3370641
>>3370651
ok nvm i'll try to get sexy

>>3370673
I just emulated it on mobile

>>3370671
I didn't have enough money to buy that. The whip at the end is outclassing all the swords though.

>>3370678
You poor soul.

>>3370673
disgusting

Which waifu do I want in V? Most people seem I've seen treat it as a gameplay decision and not a story decision as it should be imo. I'm playing the ds version, and I can't really decide between debora or bianca.

Bianca seems like the regular choice they want you to make

Debora seems like just a tsundere

>>3370723
what?

>>3370734
Bianca is the canon choice, Debora is for players wanting something different. Debora insults you a lot.

>>3370734
I picked Flora when I played V. Bianca was illiterate and Debora was scary. The game REALLY wants you to pick Bianca.

>>3370734
Bianca and Nera have boring dialogue not worth reading.
Debora is at least entertaining.

>>3370735
You played the mobile version.
You poor soul. I feel sorry for you.

>>3370752
No, I said I emulated it on mobile. Meaning I used a Gameboy Color emulator for Android to play it.

>>3370760
Oh.
I don't feel sorry for you anymore.

>>3370765
my grandma is dying

>>3370734
I always choose Flora in the SFC version. She's a better mage than Bianca. I would choose her even if she was garbage in battle, though. The game wants you to choose Bianca, but that only makes the act of choosing Flora more meaningful.

The idea of marrying a rich, princess-like girl and taking her out of that boring place appeals to me more than marrying my childhood friend. Also, I like blue hair.

The other reason is that I want to remember Bianca as a cute loli. I do this in real life too. I don't want to meet any of my old classmates because they are probably a lot uglier than they were in fifth grade. I don't want to taint my memories of them.

By the way, does anyone else think that the daughter looks like a preteen in the SFC version? It's probably because the son's spiky hair makes him look shorter, but she looks a couple years older than him even though they are twins.

>>3370608
>Bully a guy into abandoning his brother in the desert.
>Get upset when the game calls you a bully.

But I guess that's a natural response for a violent person like yourself.

>>3370785
The older brother had zero chances of survival, should the younger one die for nothing? And nobody bullied him into doing anything, I just gave my opinion.

>>3370746
but remember when you went ghost hunting together?

having never played DQ before... which is the best one to start with? also it needs to be 2D, i've sorta played the ps2 one and the graphics got to me, plus i need to be able to emulate it on my shittop.

>>3370903
Start with 3, you'll miss out on a plot twist that references DQ1 but who gives a fuck. 1 is ok if a bit boring and pointless, 2 is shit, skip it.

>>3370903
DQ3, SNES or GBC remakes

>>3370909
2 is much better than 1 and has great music. The princess alone makes the game worth playing.

>>3370903
V if you like a good story. Play it on DS as that's 2D graphics. IV is less plot focused and also on DS.

>>3370918
2 is fine if you use a guide. Else you have no idea where the fuck to go

>>3370918
>2 is much better than 1

>>3370928
>using a guide for two
Have fun grinding. If you just explore and talk to everybody you'll generally know what to do.