/vr/ - Retro Games

Some Doukyuusei for you.

TIME FOR DON DON PACHI BBITCHES!!!!

>>324474

But Dodonpachi was a console/arcade game only...

>>324526
right..right.. I am thinking of that MSX Thing.

>>324574

You mean Aleste?

What's the average price to find these, if I wanted the Computers themselves?

>>324754

You'll be talking in the 1000 USD range, depending on the model, add-ons, condition, etc.

>>324787

I forgot, those are the prices you'll see on E-bay, in Japan you'll be able to find those computers for around 300 USD. Although the games have almost the same value everywhere.

>>324445
Uuuugh, spreadsheets. Graphs. What kind of loser uses a computer for that stuff?

>>324865
A Luser.

I wish I could read moon as I am genuinely interested in the plot of Xenon, and how the spaceship relates to the hospital and vr thingy.

>>324865

Dont be silly, they're covering the eroge on the background.

These things always had so much charm. Just how many games were released for these? Is there anywhere I can find them online?

>>325009

There is a big pack in Underground Gamers for the FM Towns (like 74GB). Then there is another big pack in Nyaa for the PC98 and X68000, Underground Gamers has some rare shit in individual torrents too.

As an open plattform is almost impossible to know how many games there are... but if you wanna look some of them Tokugawa has a lot of screenshots from these games. Also note that you can request games there if you know the title.

http://fullmotionvideo.free.fr/

East German master race, report here.

>>328963
you soviets were allowed videogaems?

>>324897
Dragon Knight 4 has to be one of the best PC98 games ever made, Dou 1 & 2 are also great, so is Kakyusei. Elf Games was the shit back then.

Does this count since its Artdink?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-Train

>>328963

What a sweet piece of hardware! What are the specs? Is it rare? Price ?(not Ebay's one, it's alway overpriced there).

Where can I find PC-98 roms?

Rusty is a good PC-98 game. It's also in MS-DOS, but it has issues with Dosbox.

I've foudn this website which has like 6gb worth of games you guys can check out.
Also, my mediafire folder which is pretty empty right now but I'm going to add things I find on Perfect Dark or other places here once in a while.

http://www.mediafire.com/?br6aer6mixxvb

>>334769
Forgot the link to the website.
https://ra.gg/!VnUwR

>>332992
you can try this http://fullmotionvideo.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96

Anyone know anywhere you can buy a physical PC98 game? I want Policenauts to complete my collection(have the 3DO,PS and Saturn versions). Should I just keep waiting on eBay? I saw a copy for $400 recently, didn't sell so I could contact the seller and see if he'll sell to me at a discount. Anywhere else?

>>335389
Damn, most of those download links are dead.

Anyone know if there's some bundle online somewhere with PC-98 games? They're really hard to find compared to console ones.

>>337228
there's at least one torrent of pc98 games

Ah....good old japanese computers.

got a nice collection of eroges for FM Towns and X68000.


Just missing the actualc systems to play them on.

had a guy selling an X68000 - but it cost 350€

>>334796
dude, thank you so much. There was a Policenauts(ポリスノーツ) image in one of the rars on that site, I've been looking for one. I had a great time setting up T98 and am now able to emulate Policenauts with it. Thanks so much for the link

>>338752
Is T98 the best emulator for PC-98 games?

>>338792
I don't know. It worked for this game and Anex86 didn't. Still far from perfect though.

>>324892
I miss this old school art style.

>>338976
these games can be pretty, yes

>>339843

>>339843
>>339849

Holy cow! That's imply beautiful! It look like the colonies in U.C. Gundams.

>>334769

What's the name of this game?

Are any of this games translated? I tried to learn moon but got lazy after knowning the kanas.

>>340158
Some have translated windows ports.

>>339843
Woah, what is this called? I love me some space games.

>>340702
Policenauts aka Lethal Weapon in space.

>>340709
Oh that's the one with a translated version, or is the translated version only for the Sega CD or something?

>>340743
Policenauts is only translated for the PS1. The Sega CD had a proper english version of Snatcher.

>>340758
Does the PS1 version look even remotely similar to the one you posted?

>>340769
Nope.

>>340758
rumor is a Saturn translation will be out soon, there's a team working on it.

>>340769
not really. It's similiar but basically in the PS1 version the game is just displaying a JPG image of an animation cel. The PC98 version is actually drawing the stuff with godtier pixel art. I would still wholeheartedly recommend playing the game though, the presentation is still very very impressive on PS1(and has anime cutscenes). But I'm kind of biased, I love the game.

Still trying to get my hands on a physical copy of the PC98 version.

>>340769
ps1 version of the same scene

>>331956
It's based around DDR clone of Z80 and sports up to 256KB of RAM. It's dedicated CP/M workstation with green-on-black display and great keyboard. Two 5.25" drives and optional 8" drive, modem and printer. Basic models had text-only display since it was meant as office computer but even then it has some cool games like Frogger and Ladder (Lode Runner clone). You probably can't get one outside of Europe but in Germany and former East Block countries those were so common that you could easily pick one up with tons of extras for 100EUR.

>>336976
>browsing 4chan at work
I know, SFW in a Yotsuba B, but why'd you EVER do that?

>>340940
I do it all the time. The rest of the internet is ship, I feel like I'm catching cancer just looking at it.

Gibe nemesis plos!

But seriously speaking, it's interessing how a computer can be popular on two completely opposite places like brazil and japan like the MSX and never catch on in north america.

I think most of the influence came from the huge japanese population on BR.

>>340910
I was gonna post a comparison but you beat me to it. Ugh that screenshot is a blurry turd. The PC-98 pixel art just stands out so memorably.

>>340971
The PS1 have more colors per screen, but the PC98 resolution is just too awesome.

>>340959
Also vice-versa, glorious Nippon has a huge BR population too.

>>340971
I'm a programmer, one day I might try to implement an English patch for Policenauts. Hardest part is that there are no in game subtitles like in the console versions, so I'd have to actually write code to display subtitles and to move the character portraits as necessary. It is the best looking version of the game.

>>340980
It's a quite old relationship, but interessing one.
For example, BRs watched a lot of tokusatsu's in the 80's, like change man, flash man, Kyojuu Tokusou Jaspion (wildly popular in br, even if not much in japan itself).

>>340984
would it be easier to swap the art from the PC version to the PSX version?

>>340959
Funny piece of trivia: MSX computers were largely popular in USSR because Japan supplied Russian schools with them and Microsoft was the only company that made Russian/Cyrillic version of BASIC and DOS.

>>341029
doubt that would work. The console versions just have a lower resolution, PS1 runs at 320xsomething and the PC98 runs at 640*400-ish.

Also the PC98 version is materially different, the plot is arranged slightly differently, there is extra dialogue, different music, and a few small things like that.

>>340940
It was a joke. Please post more.

>>338752
You're welcome. I'll see if I find anything decent while I look for more games and upload it on my mediafire.

>>340106
Lightning Warrior Raidy. The entire series was remaked for PC but it's a pretty mediocre series. At least you get to see the monsters you beat naked.

>>336976

This game nigguh

>>340923

Thanks for the answer! Hopefully, I live in France, not too far from Germany, so I think it won't be too difficult to pick one.

>>341196

Thanks for the name. I'll try to catch the ROM.

>>341047
I sort of doubt this, there was a ban on exporting computers to USSR agreed on by non-communist countries.

MSX Laserdisc?

>>341314

>>341320

>>341309
The remakes should be on Nyaa, but if you still want to play the PC98 and can't find the rom then I can upload it to mediafire.

The art is pretty bad though in the PC98 version.

>>341321
These games are seriously misleading if you go off the box art, by the way. Mostly just nice prerendered movies and really, really shitty sub-Atari2600 level sprite games being played on top of them

>>341265
Anyone looking for the rom of this: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?k3rgbi3oojmdbkd
>>341314
>>341320
I had no idea such a thing existed

>Pic related will never get translated

>>341329
Got some standard MSX stuff as well

>>341309
Good hunt, that particular model is Robotron 1715. There were several variants differing in amount of RAM but that's it. For basic graphics support you need ROM expansion but it's only used by some CAD software so it's probably not worth it. All games are ASCII only and since it's CP/M almost no software uses graphics. Has great keyboard so if you get WordStar and printer it's still a decent typewriter.

>>341312
Japan signed trade and exchange pact with USSR in 1952. In short, Soviets hauled resources to Japan and Japan would haul technologies to Soviets in return. Early soviet ICBMs used Japanese electronics.

>>341338
I get "Big eyes so that he would appeal to something"

>>341328

I prefer the PC-98 arts, so it would be nice if you could upload it.

>>341338

Thanks for the link!

>>341340

>>341368

No problem! I think it could be fun to program these machines...

>>341378
Best Batman game ever?

>>324463
Princess Maker?

>>341314
>>341320
>>341321
Laserdisks were so cool, I mean imagine seeing this for the first time at the arcades in 1983:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T56LsYd-7ZY
That said, too bad they never figured out how to utilize the technology beyond FMV and gimmicky gaming. The added storage could have made for some impressive games but seeing that it was analog instead of digital I don't know if that would have been possible.

>>341390
Even if it was analog, in theory, it should have added storage.

>>341385

>>341371
No problem dude. It was a shit to find years ago. Have some art too!

>>341390

Magnetic tapes have been used for digital storage too. Why not Laser Discs?

>>341390
They fundamentally couldn't be utilized for data storage in the way you're thinking. They were essentially like a VHS player in that all they could do was play video, with the advantage that they could take commands as to what track to play.

>>341406

Thanks again anon. You're a bro!

>>341371
Well, alright then. I added the first and second Raidy games to my mediafire library which I posted already in the thread.

Also, I'm out of SFW Raidy pictures.

>>341413
They invented that technology eventually. It was called the CD. The original laserdiscs were literally just media players, though. I'm sure there was some technological reason behind this at the time, I'm not an electronics expert though so I couldn't tell you.

How do you guys play these games. Also I'm guessing knowing Japanese is going to be a must.

>>341403

>>341431
Sony sure has a fetish for the color black

>>341397
Yeah, but the complications would arrive from the computer reading it having to have sufficient power to interpret and convert that analog data into digital while playing I'd think. Easy with simple playback, much harder with complex algorithms. That's probably why great looking but as simple as pong in gameplay games were the norm with the format, but I'm far from knowledgeable on the subject.
Could also just have been a precursor to that horrible FMV boom in the mid 90s where "hip" and "down with it" publishers all but forced developers to make shitty interactive movies instead of actual games, but I actually prefer what the Laserdisk era produced to much of that.

>>341429
Personally these are the emulators I use

MSX/2 - BlueMSX
PC88 - M88
PC98 - Anex or T98 Next
FM Towns - Unz

Knowing Moon is a requirement for nearly all the games. In saying that however the FM Towns versions of the Ultima games are in English

>>341442
Downloaded all these magazines ages ago but never actually looked through them. Kind of makes me want to download an MSX emulator. And learn Japanese.

>>341426

Analog VHS/audio tapes too were designed as media players, but they were used later as computer storages... I think it's only due to the size of the disc that they didn't used analog laser discs as computer backups.

>>341447
I don't know if I want to play a game about dragon seed

>>341446
This is probably silly, but what's the most convenient way to learn moon for these purposes.

>>341449
Keyword: later. Those developments take time. It really wasn't that long after the laserdisc that the first CD systems started coming along. A large part of it could've been the manufacturing cost as well - laserdiscs weren't cheap and would never had caught on for mainstream gaming purposes. At least when they were just video they could cut a lot of costs by using existing laserdisc video burning and reading equipment.

>>341482

>>341496
Oh god, I think this is a game about working in an office making games

>>341504
Make your own MSX games!

>>341515
So easy a child could do it

>>341420

Sorry to disturb you, but when I load Raidy's ROM with Anex86, I get an error message telling me "no disk!"...

>>341515
>>341520
I would actually like to try that. If only I could program

>>341461
Yeah, it was also the question of the hardware catching up to it I think. The technology to do similar things with the Laserdisc as it was later able to do with the CD simply didn't exist in the 80s.
But as to FMV gaming, that actually predates the Laserdisc. Pic related, an arcade game from the early 70s that used 16mm film and featured Dragon's Lair type gameplay, albeit with a break and a steering wheel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLRKkzcWIpU

>>341520

>>341534

Easy. Just start an MSX/MSX2 emulator without any ROM loaded, and copy all this stuff on the BASIC interpret that automatically started. Good luck.

>>341467
That's some awesome shit!
Here, more magazines to download:
http://abandonware-magazines.org/

>>341547
I sort of miss type-in programs. I mean, you got free stuff but you had to put some effort in it. Also nothing beats customising that cheapo adventure game on the fly.

>>341558

>Abandonware Magazine

Mah Nigga!

>>334769
When I saw this image, I teared up. I must play this game. Does it play in DOS BOX?

>>341563

The thing that was great with these games is that you could easily modify them if you understood which command do what. Fun times.

>>341531
Weird, that shouldn't happen. Here's my set-up.

>>341567
No, there isn't any DOS version. Either PC98 or Windows.

>>341597
Is there an english version, or can it be understood well enough anyway?

>>341592

I did the exact same thing, and I'm still doing the exact same thing, but it refuse to start... Too bad, at least Poison needle work.
Thanks for the files anyway!

>>341605
Yes

http://www.g-collections.com/lightning-warrior-raidy.html

>>341618
Thank you very much, sir.

>>341605
The PC remakes are translated (At least the first and second game). They are pretty boring but it's worth a try if you're interested.
Also, I hope I don't need to tell you at this point but this is an H-game, meaning you are going to see some naked women and some sex scenes.

>>341614
Honestly, I'm new to this PC98 thing myself so I'm not sure how to help you. You can try other emulators though. There's Neko Project 2 which has an English interface.

>>341630
So, any pic about the new episode of Raidy ?

>>341630
Oh, no doubt. Don't worry, it's cool, I'm 19.
So the PC remakes don't work on PC98, right?

>>341656

Of course, they're not compatible.

>>341675
>you want to take the one right in the middle.

>>341630

Tried with Neko Project 2 (wich is a better emulator IMO), but it still doesn't work...

>>341714
Then try T98 Next

>>341614
Do you have the japanese fonts installed and set windows to japanese?

>>341640
Raid 3? I didn't find anything on google but I think the game is up on nyaa.

>>341714
I got nothing. Are you using a Japanese locale?

>>341745

Yes and Yes.

>>341757

Yes.

>>339843

It is based on Rick Guidice's artwork...pic related

>>341807
yup. And then Kojima uses the same kind of space station again in Zone of the Enders.

>>341771
are you using the right CD driver? There are two, one for Windows 98/ME and one for Windows NT/XP/Vista/7.

Did you set the CDX tab in the Config menu to the appropriate driver letter?

>>341771
from a document I used to set up Anex86 for Policenauts(which is also a CD game):

>- Also download the CD-plugins anecdxnt.zip (for WinNT/2000/XP) or anecdx9x.zip (for Win9x)

>- Extract the rars to a place on your harddisk. You should now have several floppydisk images and 1 harddisk image and a directory with the CD image.
>- Mount the CD image with your Virtual CD software.

>Extract 'anex86e1.zip' and the CD-plugin zip to a directory on your harddisk.
>- Go to tab 'CDX' and select the (virtual) CD drive which contains the Policenauts CD.

Does /vr/ have the same "no touhou" rule that /v/ had for some reason?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aoq8P6xGXoE

>>341807
not sure if iain m banks' culture novels influenced this or if they influenced him, there's a place in the first book (released in '87) that strongly resembles that design, but I don't know a lot about this sort of stuff.
Regardless, anything to do with space is brilliant.

>>341538
Yay, Turbo-R.
This thing had a weird Z80 compatible 16 bit CPU thing that was quite nice, but unfortunaly not very used.

Were they being fucking serious with this localisation?

>>341996
That's hilarious.

>>341881
Does such a rule exist? If so, why? Are they forcing touhou onto /a/ instead?

>>341996
I guess they are trying to convey a particular accent/speech disorder/drunkness of the shopkeeper. Most likely intentional.

>>341906
Pretty sure it's based on Larry Niven's Ringworld.

>>341939
Z80 technically could be considered 16bit CPU just like m68k could be considered 32bit, Zilog even made some 32bit CPU based on Z80 architecture.

>>342051
Oh shit yeah, totally didn't realise.
It didn't even come in to my head, thanks.

>>341996
Also the colour is so fucking aweful in that game. Its all green, blue and grey.

>>342078
No, just because registers are 16bit doesn't mean that CPU is. Offsets were 8bit and that's it.

Posting Geograph Seal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rmj6n6hkdk

Also,
Are there any non-eroge dating sims for the PC88 or 98 that I should be aware of? I love the art style for these things, but I find the actual eroge bits really distasteful. Moonrunes are fine.

anyone know a marketplace or forum outisde Japan where I can find this beauty?

>>340106
>It look like the colonies in U.C. Gundams.
Because that's a trace from a painting.

>Retro Japanese Computers thread
>Retro eroge is allowed
>Retro eroge thread

>>342431
>doesn't read the thread
>makes pointless posts
>doesn't even sage

>>342340
That monitor is pure fucking sex incarnate

I have been interested in an MSX computer for a while now, is it worth getting a physical machine if you are not fluent in the japanese language?

(since it would be purchased for cartridge games)

>>341851
Do you think you could upload Policenauts to mediafire?

>>341467
>>341482
Haha, oh, wow. Some janitor/mod on here is seriously butt ravaged over a pixelated boob.

>>341447
Wow, do you happen to know where the download is? I'm pretty interested in this sort of thing.

>>341881
I don't think it's a problem as long as you stick to strictly the old PC-98 games. Those are retro and I don't think /jp/ ever talks about them anyway.

>>344190
>Wow, do you happen to know where the download is? I'm pretty interested in this sort of thing.

Underground Gamer is pretty good for finding retro stuff like that. I have no idea if they still have open registration or not though.

>>344163
Knew this would happen eventually.

Time for some A-Train IV, courtesy of Artdink.

>>345594
these graphics are the absolute highlight of how nice isometric perspective can get.
Did any of you guys see the new scroll magazine with coverage of artdink?

>>345594
I noticed that awesome shit recently. It's a great time to get into Artdink.

Wow, OP here, I didnt know this thread was still alive.

>>325050
Damn it's going to take a hell of a long time to get a ratio high enough to ever download any of that torrent.

>>346723
mratio werks

I figure instead of making a new thread specifically for this question, I'll ask here.

So, I'm in the process of collecting the Japanese versions of the Dragon Quest games. Dragon Quest 1 and 2 were released for MSX computers, and I don't know a damn thing about them other than a lot of companies made computers under the MSX standard. I'm looking to find out if anyone could point me in the right direction, or help me understand what exactly I would look for if I wanted to buy a MSX computer that would be compatible with these games...even though I will probably play them only for a short time...if they even still work/I can hook them up.

>>349235

Just choose them like you would choose a PC-compatible: See which model have the best specs for the best price and go for it. MSX systems shouldn't be too expensive.

>>349235
where do you buy them? Just eBay? I'm trying to find PC98 Policenauts. Was on eBay a month ago for $400, didn't sell, so I messaged the guy and offered him $15-+$250 shipping and he refused.

>>353167
whoops, I mean $150+$25 shipping

>>353492

That's some nice computer too. Mind if you post more pics?

>>353527
I don`t have anymore. it`s a sharp x68000. had 1:1 arcade ports and pretty good specs for the time.

>>353556

It was the computer Capcom used to develop their CPS1 games, so it was quite easy for them to port them. It's quite funny what happened in Japan, while they had their own computers PC gaming was pretty big over there.

grorious Cho Ren Sha on X68000

>>353602

Mahou Daisakusen

which reminds me: I tried some x68k games and one had a remake of the neogeo bootup but with the 68k logo. it even had the sound. thought it was kinda cool. but forgot which game it was

>>353613
gorgeous pixelart

>>353572
it's just xenopohiba. Once WIndows 95 came out and ran best on western Wintel machines instead of native stuff like the PC-98. developers stopped being involved with PC.

>>353685
Don't forget the standardization of hardware formats. That's just as big reason.

>>353685

Yeah, maybe... but PC98 wasnt really japanese like other computers which ran their own OS, maybe I might be wrong but I've used the FMOS and if IIRC it was developed by Fujitsu. Most of the OS-based software was from the US.

>>353746
how so? Wouldn't that make it easier to develop games?

>>353798
No, not really. It's easier to develop games if you're good with the language you're programming in.

>>338976
I really hope the new Sailor Moon anime can recapture that 90's charm.

It might just be nostalgia talking, but I swear anime looked better in the 90's. Better color balance, more facial detail, etc.

>>353923
Not to mention that some languages simply do certain things better than others.

Java for example, it's compatible with fuckin' everything. It's performance however? Pretty shit.

>>354845
>It's
This is what happens when I go from "It's lacking in performance however" to "performance however?"