/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3332019
>redpill me

Fuck off. This isn't /b/ or /pol/.

>>3332019
First off...
>>3332021
This,
Secondly, if you like shmups, the PC Engine is a wet dream come true.

>>3332038
No dude, no. Don't even respond to his thread. This guy is not serious about /vr/ nor is he going to be a regular user. He's going to post this shitty thread, leave, and never come back.

>>3332038
I've never really played any shmups but I'm interested, do you have a list?

>>3332021
>>3332041
I'm sorry I want to know more about what seems to be somewhat of a cult system on here and in other places

>>3332041
>implying PC Engine threads are shit

>>3332019

The CD addon has some of the best games of the library.

To play all of them you'd need to get the upgrade card. the duos (versions of the consoles with the cd addon built in) already have the card, so those are your best bet unless you really feel like buying 3 seperate things.

the pc-engine has a shit ton of great shmups if you're into those, and niche stuff like dating sims. splatterhouse and rondo of blood are also both must plays.

>>3332056
What is a fair price for a duo? They're expensive beyond belief whereas the coregrafx or the white pc engine are very affordable. If I don't get the duo what are the three separate things I need and what would be fair prices?

>>3332042
Here are some I can think of off the top of my head...

Gunhed
Salamander
Gradius
Gradius II*
Twinbee
Darius Alpha
Psychosis
Gate of Thunder*
Lords of Thunder*
Cho Aniki (lol)*

There are tons more. Titles with a * are CD games.

>>3332019
You should want one. One with a CD. You should get one. You probably won't because you're probably an eBayby

>>3332128
Where else is good to buy them? Ebay prices are real high for the duos and amazon is pretty cancerous.

>>3332134
>he doesn't own a pc engine

>>3332134
I bought all of mine in flea markets. That or a Japanese second hand shop not overrun by tourists are the only places you'll find something at a decent price.
If you're impatient or mommy won't take you to flea markets consider getting a core2 on ebay/whatever now and picking up a cd (preferably super cd) later if you find a good deal.

>>3332336
So I can get a CoreGrafx2 and a handful of common hucards for $120. I'm having a lot of trouble finding the Super CD ROM expansion. The only ones I've been able to find start at $300 and go upwards of $600. The core2 seems fair but holy shit the CD expansion is highway robbery.

>>3332074
this not a very good list

you forgot

Magical Chase
Soldier Blade
Sapphire

Spend $1000 and get a laser active with the turbo expansion. Won't need a card that way. Plays a few decent LD games, but the sega pac is better.

Upside is youll own the only turbo duo with digital sound output. Not even sure if modders have made that happen yet.

>>3332385
I'll add

blazing lazers/gunhed
Sidearms on hu card and cd

>>3332019
The PC Engine, based around my experiences, was more popular with the kids in Japan than even the Famicom despite what is now accepted that the Famicom was so much a success in terms of units sold. Back then, the PC Engine had the graphical chops to outdo their immediate competitors. It was a consolized form of a lot of PC-88 titles, had many titles based around the animations on TV, and it was a very space considerate machine.

You may not want one if you are not into shooting games, manga/anime, card/party/board/gambling games, visual novels which the system primarily has. There are also many RPGs, more akin to the older more obtuse designs of old RPGs like that of Dragon Quest, Wizardry, and early Ultima games. You may want one if you don't mind 8-bit games of those aforementioned types.

It is good because it is an overpowered 8-bit system, much like a NeoGeo is a sort of overpowered 16-bit system which got great love from their developers.

The CD-expansion can have up to 75% of the best titles the PC-Engine line of systems have to offer. There are still some amazing HuCard/TurboChip only titles.


>>3332368

The Super CD-ROM2 expansion system is pretty uncommon to rare. It is best paired with the similarly uncommon to rare SuperGrafx, or PC-Engine LT to give those systems Super CD-ROM2 capability since that attachment has the Super System Card built in.

here are the levels of systems:
PC-Engine (base white), either CoreGrafx, PC-Engine GT, Shuttle PC-Engine = all non-SuperGrafx HuCards playable

add PC-Engine Interface Unit + CD-ROM expansion + System Card 1.0 = all (Regular) CD-ROM2 games playable in addition to above [not applicable to Shuttle nor GT as they cannot be expanded]

same as last category but with Super System Card, or just any form of a Duo (no need for a system card), or Super CD-ROM 2 attachment = all Super CD-ROM2 games playable too in addition

above but with Arcade Card (Duo if you have a Duo) = Arcade CD-ROMs playable

>>3332451
Very informative post, any suggestions on where to finder a cheaper Super CD or am I just gonna get fucked on that front?

There are still a lot of games on the HuCard format without getting into the CD format. While I like a lot of CD games, you would need to commit to the TurboDuo/TurboDuo-R and its cost as the easiest way to access both libraries.

If not, check around the ebay seller turbografxfan (who goes by Keith Courage on the PCEFX forums, maybe elsewhere). He sometimes sells the briefcase units (Core+Interface+CD unit), and other sellers on other forums sometimes have various components for sale. If not through them, you will have to be patient and git gud at auctioneering on ebay in order to get the pieces for decent prices.

That being said, there is plenty to recommend as a HuCard. Don't bother with US TurboChips, as they universally are more expensive, and are usually inferior versions of the game (rearranging/editing levels for no reason, cutting content, etc.). They look uglier and are more expensive. They are for hipsters and old people only.

As for rec's:

-Adventure Island: PCE version of Wonder Boy in Dragon's Trap. Great adventure game, with no Japanese knowledge required (the shops have icons that display what they are selling, and there is next to no text in-game).

-Dungeon Explorer: has text/RPG trappings, but you don't need to talk to NPCs outside of the king at the very beginning of the game to play the game; you just travel from dungeon to dungeon, slaying monsters. Very fun.

-Makyo Densetsu: A very fine action platformer by the director of Astyanax, so it has a similar charge-attack setup. Barbarian/caveman themed. Tough.

-Dragon Saber: might be slightly more expensive than the others, but it's one of the best shooters on the system. Colorful levels, fantasy with a dash of HR Giger, and occasionally ferocious difficulty.

-SonSon II: action-platformer by capcom and is extremely polished. Secrets hidden in walls, mixed with pleasant jumping and attacking enemies.

Hon. mention to Genpei Toumaden Kannoni. The game is epic, but you should emulate it first.

How hard is it to mod a Duo for region free play? And can the system play CD-R games without any modification, like the Sega CD?

>>3332702
He doesn't seem to be selling anything at the moment. Thanks for the Hucard list, I'll check 'em out!

For aficionados: is anyone familiar with the Wizardry ports? I'm sorta interested, and have messed around a little in Ootake, but I am wary of picking up RPGs that are only partially in English and will likely hand my ass to me.

>>3332774
PC Engines do not have copy protection, so any 600-700mb CD rom should work. I use ImgBurn and write at a slow speed and everything plays perfectly - sometimes even more so than my actual discs!

>>3332813
No prob! he does mostly repairs via ebay; I've seen him sell things on forums though. That is more of a dice-roll in terms of finding things.

Legend of Valkyrie is pretty good OP

If I could find a PC Engine Duo I could probably recap it without too much fuss, but what about a non-functioning CD drive? Is it worth bothering with trying to repair if I'm only intermediately skilled? Trying to fix a broken CD drive on one of these old systems sounds pretty scary.

>>3332525
Not that guy but, if you mean the card it's really cheap and can be find easily on eBay for under 20$
the CD System itself is harder to find and will be in the 100$ + range

just get a tg16 or a pce, a turbo everdrive and a db grafx booster and be done with it.

>>3332072
what's expensive for you? i got a duo-r for under 200. also, yeah, don't get the original duo unless you really like fixing things.

>>3333092
Can a turbo everdrive play cd games on a normal tubogfx-16 or a normal pc-engine or coregfx model?

>>3332525
I'm >>3332451 from before. I'd recommend the Duo for Super CD-ROM2 titles and under.

The reason the Duo line of systems I consider the best balance allowing the largest portion of the library without need to search out a system card, only foregoing the Arcade CDs (only 12 absolutely requires, 19 more just gets enhanced but still playable on Super CD-ROM2) and SuperGrafx Hu-Cards (5). The original Duo did use cheap capacitors to reduce its cost, which now may make the system expensive as one would likely have to replace the capacitors. The Duo-R and Duo-RX had better capacitors, the only other major difference with those from the original Duo are mostly cosmetic.

It is not cheap to get into PC-Engine CD games these days. The picture I posted is a repeat from the repair/mod thread, where the only person willing to help me with a capacitor replacement and other mods I'd want for my old US Duo alone would cost in the vicinity of $240 (includes shipping to and from repair technician), and that's from the fact I already owned one from back in the day.

Even if you opt for the original CD-ROM, it'll still require the interface unit and system card. By now most of those original CD-ROM units need repair of their motor/lens as well.

As mentioned the plain Super CD-ROM2 addon is just pretty uncommon, and an ideal pairing with other more uncommon/rare varieties (like my dream SuperGrafx+Super CDROM2+Arcade Card which enables all the games to be playable, but then those higher end games are costly too).

My NeoGeo analogy from my previous post holds very true. PC-Engine is to 8-bit as NeoGeo is to 16-bit, an expensive endeavor for some very fine games, but with quite specialized libraries. The only way to avoid these costs is emulation (just like the NeoGeo).

The direct answer is "you're gonna get fucked"

If anybody is looking to get a combo unit (Duo, Duo-R, Duo-RX) get it from an ebay seller doujindance. Quit bitching about the price and "Just Do It", you won't regret it.

>>3332451
>It is good because it is an overpowered 8-bit system, much like a NeoGeo is a sort of overpowered 16-bit system which got great love from their developers.

That's actually a pretty good way of describing it.

>>3332774
>How hard is it to mod a Duo for region free play?
not exactly easy but doable. if you get a turbo everdrive it does it for you.

>>3333051
they're relatively easy to get the laser assembly for and there are some guides out there. I don't think it requires much soldering

This is when meme and meme phrasing has just gotten out of control.
From the multitude of cuck posts and "redpill me" posts that are infiltrating boards on 4chan, it's evident a lot of posters are just literal sheep that repeat phrases they hear for everything and it signals a breakdown in actual communication.

"redpill me" means tell me the truth about something, give me the hidden narrative that no one talks about or that those "in the know" are aware of but common folks are not.

this is contrasted by the "bluepill" which is just what's common knowledge and what's casually accepted as fact.

In this way, you cannot be "redpilled" on a fucking TurboGrafx 16. There is no such thing as "redpilling" for this. You can ask what's good about the system, or what the systems top games are, but no one can "redpill you" on a fucking video game console. There's no hidden narrative or agenda covering up facts about it.

This is why I'm getting fucking tired of meme shit on every board. I don't know why janitors are allowing these kind of low quality shitposts to persist here.

>REDPILL ME
>TELL ME WHY I WANT THIS.

Yeah, I get that good discussion came out of this, but honestly, this thread should've just died. These kind of posters aren't going to stay here or improve the board.

>>3333231
no but it can act as the bios card for everything except the arcade card.

>>3333538
thanks for your contribution sperge

>>3333561
It's not just this thread. It's shitposting popping up all over /vr/.

>>3333098
i'm seeing Super CD drives on ebay going for $600+

>>3333538
You're implying that I am not the OP and that I am not actually interested in this console.

>>3333698
yeah, don't buy one of those. seriously, get a duo-r or rx.

>>3333839
Eh I wouldn't really push this, there are a lot of good non-cd games

>>3333538
OP at least went and phrased his question correctly.

So if I want to play Castlevania: Rondo of Blood / Dracula X, is all I need a PC Engine Duo, or do I need some silly RAM expansion card or something?

>>3334478
Just get it on PSP. Comes with a remake, the PCE game, and SotN.

>>3334517
I have it on Vita. If I ever get around to picking up a PC Engine though, that's one of the games I'd want to play on it.

>>3332385
I'm not going to remember the entire game library off the top of my head.
>>3332421
Already mentioned Gunhed.

Also, Cotton is excellent if you have the CD peripheral.

>>3333538
wew lad

>>3333538
Chill the fuck out man, let's talk about games

Over rated DESU. It's alright but I never really thought it was better than an NES or Genesis. It's design/aesthetic is very attractive. I find my self wanting one even though I know the games are subpar.

>tfw I sold my duo years ago

So what's the big difference between the black CoreGrafx units and the white PC Engine? I think the white looks way better but the black ones are newer.

>>3334732
White is RF only, CoreGrafx have composite outputs.

>>3334776
Are there any differences between the CoreGrafx units? Is it hard to convert RF to composite?

>>3332368
$120 is a silly price unless that includes some expensive games you want. I see plenty of PCE for $50 on ebay. You can get carts for a few bucks if you buy lots. This may mean you end up with a few games you didn't really want but if you pick the right lots you'll spend a lot less than the $15-$20 people are asking for a single cart.

Unfortunately flash carts prices are insane despite the PCE being one of the easiest consoles to make flash carts for. I made one 25 years ago that originally used EPROMs and has been upgraded for flash. If you have any experience building electronics I recommend you do the same. I was going to suggest a MGD2 modded for SD but see those are now going for $300+. Jesus, I got mine for $8

>>3334805
Where are you seeing these $50 units? The only ones I'm seeing are dirty as hell and don't come with cables or controllers.

>>3334478
No that's all you need

>>3334478
You don't need an expansion card with aduo

>>3334816
Ebay. Didn't notice they were dirty in particular but didn't bother looking at any more than the thumb nail. I already have half a dozen I bought at 1/10 the price. If you want to pay someone $50 to clean a console knock yourself out. You can find them for $50 with a controller or less and buy a controller separate. If you want something cleaned and recapped and don't want to fuck around buying bits then just save up for a duo. You'll pay a little more in total and you'll pay it all at once but you won't have to do any work beyond clicking BIN.

>>3334776
All PCE have composite and RGB on the back

>>3334804
Color, video connector on the side. You can get composite off the back of RF models with an adapter, or build your own for less than $1.

I'm gonna do it! I'm gonna buy a pc engine!

>>3333538

Just came to say, I am tired of this crap on /vr/ as well. I wish this board could go back to the way it was when it first was created. I learned a lot on /vr/ about games and CRT's. I'm not trying to be the stereotypical "old man yells at cloud" reference from the Simpson's, but everyone admits this shit is more common now.

>>3335353
After a board has been around for a while, there's inevitably going to be some crossover with some of the more prevalent bullshit on other boards. Just be happy /vr/ has maintained it's identity and hasn't turned into a board of nothing but constant memes and nothingness like /TV/ has.

>>3335401
I'd rather a thread like this than another 'how cool is sonic', 'post overrated games', or 'farting genesis' thread

>>3333538
>"redpill me" means tell me the truth about something
So you'd prefer if OP asked us to tell him lies? That's redundant. Lies and bullshit are the default on 4chan.

>>3335353
You don't like that someone wants to talk about a non-Nintendo console that isn't the Mega Drive?

I've been trying out Densetsu no Valkyrie and it's pretty darn good. Anyone else play it?

>>3336609
yep; i also think that it is good

>>3336237
They are just triggered because they don't like certain buzzwords. Obviously if he never used "redpill" he wouldn't have complained

>>3336653
I would expect the average age on this board to be higher, grow the fuck up people

>>3336609
>>3336648
Gonna have to second this

as others are saying, if you wanna spend a smaller amount of money, sure, grab a pc engine or a coregrafx with a turbo everdrive. the everdrive will be more expensive than the console but it'll essentially let you play most every hucard game, regardless of region. as for getting rgb/composite out, you can use the expansion port on the back or something that plugs into it. it's worth noting that you won't be able to save games WITHOUT something that hooks to the back (like a tennokoe bank), with this setup. the console has no built-in space for saved games.

if you do want to play cd-rom games, get a duo-r. it'll play burned games if you use good media and don't burn at too high of a speed. it also has internal saved game space, and has the super cd^2 card built-in.

if you're not even sure that you want to buy stuff, emulate first with mednafen or ootake. it'll either convince you or it won't.

>>3336995
Wait, so what do I need with a coregrafx to play and save hucard games? My understanding is the coregrafx already has composite out so I don't need to mess with modding it for that.

>>3337046
Most HuCards don't have data to save anyhow. Most use passwords if they aren't arcade games.

The one exception I know of is Adventure Island (which has backup), but it ALSO has passwords for people without backup. A tennokoe bank is more for people who want to save allllll their CD game saves, like all their pointless scrub scores at shooters.

>>3337081
Okay good to know, thanks for the help

>>3337081
also the neutopia games

>>3337046
and yep, coregrafx does have composite out. sorry for the confusion.

I only play burnt games on my duo r. Sometimes games go black instead of loading games and show some graphical bugs. I'd this a consequence of shit burning on shit CDs or is it my CD lens failing?

>>3337313
that happened to me a couple of times, both with burned games and originals. i adjusted the trimpots and got everything working again.

>>3337397
Have you got Any links to guides for that?

not OP.
I already have a core grafx. I'm thinking about picking up a Super CD and an Arcade Duo card which if my 5-mins-of-googling research is correct, should cover everything but super grafx. Am I missing anything?

>>3337443
I think an arcade duo is only for the duo models you need the normal type of arcade card

>>3337441
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=8926.195

here you go; good luck

>>3337449
from what I read, the arcade Duo only adds the required amount of extra RAM that the System Card 3.0 doesn't provide (extra 256 kbs or something on top of the 2 megabytes of the SC 3.0), whereas the arcade pro card provides both the system card 3.0 and arcade duo card on one card. Am I wrong?

>>3337451
>http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=8926.195
>account requirement

>>3337454
that's correct. basically, don't get any card with 'duo' in the name if you do not have a duo, which already includes the system card 3's extra ram built-in.

>>3337458
the super CD also has the system 3.0 card built in, or am I missing something?
sorry to reiterate my points, but I don't want to blow dosh on something that won't cover 95% of the PC engine library

>>3337462
no it does not

>>3337471
http://pcenginefx.com/main/nec_compatibility_guide.html
>super CD-ROM2 Unit comes with built in Super System Card 3.0

>>3337451
thanks but i'm waiting for admin approval. cleaned my laser head with iso on a qtip in the meantime and rondo seemed to play alright before i got gameover at the sorcerer boss

>>3337471
Yea it does idontownone lad

>>3337471
Super Cd does (the one that matches the core grafx 2)
All other cd add-ons do not

>redpill me

Go back to 4chan

>>3338113
We've been over this like 6 times

Anyone else kind of underwhelmed by Star Parodier (except for the presentation)?

What are the games that are exclusive to the arcade card that are worth playing

>>3340528
Star Parodier is so easy a mentally-handicapped cripple could beat it. I think that's why it is so popular (that and it's colorful). A lot of PC Engine shooters that are well loved are so (I think) because they are overwhelmingly easy.

Less people sing praises of Rayxanber II because it is a relentless ball-crusher of a game (too much so, in my opinion). RayX III is ultra easy and is thus the "desirable" one (despite being less well-designed).

Soldier Blade, Star Parodier, GunHed, Coryoon, Dead Moon, Spriggan... All of these games fit the PCE stereotype of "colorful easy game." At least Spriggan and Gunhed have difficulty that you can crank up.

As to your question: the best AC game is far and away Sapphire; you'll have to burn that one to reasonably play it. Mad Stalker is supposed to be decent but I never played it. There are also Neo Geo fighting ports if you are in to 8/16-bit ports of Neo Geo games. The AC card also improves a few CD games, but most of this is cosmetic (increased animation frames in the dig. comic 3x3 eyes, or faster loading in Popful Mail).

So is the AC card needed for some HuCards then?

>>3341238
No, only Arcade cd games. You can't put two hucards in at once anyway

>>3341238
Required:

Battlefield '94 In Super Battle Dream
Fire Pro Female Wrestling (WOWOW vs. JWP...
Fatal Fury 2
Fatal Fury Special
Sapphire
Jong Shin Densetsu
Far East of Eden: Kabuki Itouryodan
Mad Stalker Full Metal Force
Madou Monogatari I Honou no Sotsuenji
Art of Fighting
Strider
World Heroes 2


And the following will play without the Arcade Card, but are enhanced if you use it:

+ 3 x 3 Eyes Sanjiyan Hensei
+ Atlas (The) - Renaissance Voyager
+ Brandish
+ Eikan Wa Kimini
+ Formation Soccer '95
+ Gulliver Boy
+ J. League Tremendous Soccer '94
+ Linda Cube
+ Mahjong Sword Princess Quest Gaiden
+ Popful Mail
+ Princess Maker 2
+ Private Eye Doll
+ Sexy Idol Mahjong Fashion Monogatari
+ Sotsugyou II Neo Generation
+ Super Real Mahjong P II & III Custom
+ Super Real Mahjong P V Custom
+ Tanjou Debut
+ Vasteel 2
+ Wrestling Angels Double Impact

It is also worth noting that the Arcade Card-exclusive Strider is a sloppy, rushed, and ill-made piece of shit. Burn it and play it only if you are really interested in seeing its one new stage, weak arranged music, and hearing Strider's annoying HIYA every time you press attack.

>>3341056
>>3341309
>>3341362
Thanks probably won't bother with one then since I have an mvs

Bumping so pc engine general doesn't die

extension cables for the pc engine are fucking expensive if you aren't in the states even though they are standard

>>3344249
Explain? What extension cables?

What went wrong?

Aside from having no 3D capability, having worse 2D than the Saturn, being more expensive than either the Saturn or Playstation, not releasing outside of Japan, and all around just feeling like a slightly better version of the PC Engine Dup even though it's not backwards compatible?

>>3332385
>Magical Chase
>Sapphire
You better have some disposable cash to burn

>>3344871
Hudson didn't develop it

>>3344878
Or you know a CD burner

>>3344871
You forgot having an 8bit soundchip for a fucking 5th-generation console.

>>3333538
I totally agree with this, but
>literal sheep
Learn what "literally" means, retard.

>>3344907
You gave some collectorfag an aneurysm

>>3344871
>having worse 2D than the Saturn
Wait what?
I read it had better support of anime.

>>3345712
It had a motion JPEG layer which made it better for FMV than the PS1 or Saturn, but that was about it.

Also, the Saturn eventually got an MPEG decoder cartridge which offered superior video playback to motion JPEG anyway. Granted only a few games used it and they were never released outside of Japan, but it was there.

The PC-FX was in pretty much every way a technological dodo. As bad as we recall things being with the Saturn's 3D lagging behind the PS1 and N64, the PC-FX seems to have been made as if it was going to be the only 32 bit system on the market, and in many ways it fell short of even the 16 bit consoles from the previous generation. I guess they were hoping that the cool home PC tower inspired design and the promise of expansions would be enough to sell it, but it only ended up selling 100k units which is abysmal.

>>3332019
you have to get the cd add on for dracula x chibi no rondo

>>3345836
>chibi no rondo
nigga dis shit is the kawaii'est

>>3345701
once I got over the hurdle of burning my first CD, a lot more followed. It broke my "must own tha fizzical coppy at all costs!!" retardation.

Especially with the small handful of fan translations, it's not like having the physical CD enables me to magically make them into English.

On that note I'm pretty happy to hear about the Xanadu translations. Those games look so cool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55sI0sDRBRk

>>3333561
insulting /vr/ for having asperger's is like insulting water for being wet

>>3345857
>burning cds
Might as well emulate at that point.

>>3345947
I actually buy cheap or the games I really want. If I am mildly interested (or its a fan translation) I just burn.

>>3334223
>all those dead franchises
>RIP

>>3345915
No it's not. Water is more intelligent and doesn't chimp out.

>>3345947
Like this dumb fuck nugget emubaby.

>>3332019

You don't if you have to have someone convince you you want one. Stay out of the market.

>>3346035
OP was just looking to learn about an obscure system, how can you know if you want a system if you don't know anything about it?

>>3346341
There's this thing called google. All the cool kids are using it.

>>3332072
The CD addon is pretty expensive and flimsy as shit though. Once you start factoring that into the equation the duo starts looking more affordable...

>>3337441
>>3337397
>>3337451
Is there also a guide for the original briefcase one?

>>3346626
I don't think you understand how much misinformation there is out there about the PC-Engine. It makes much more sense to just ask people who have one about it. Why bother discussing anything on here if you could just google it?

>>3332019
What's cool about COREGrafx?

>>3348110
Comes with composite instead of RF

>>3333538
holy shit dude chill out

>>3333538
then minimize the thread you retarded nigger

Nexzr,Kaze Kiri and Gain Ground SX are some good games that nobody mentioned yet.

>>3346692
yeah

>>3348010
there's honestly more misinformation in this thread right here. 'google' implies 'google and also use your research skills' the latter of which cannot be done here

>>3348982
Could you please give me a link?

>>3344249
nigger they're a standard 8 pin mini din like an old mac. Here
>>3344347
Controller extension cables, pce/duo controllers have really short cables

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10215&cs_id=1021501&p_id=534&seq=1&format=2

>>3344871
You pretty much said it, though I think the 2d looks pretty nice. Especially the cutscenes. The real bummer is the lack of quality games. I bought one maybe 2,3 weeks ago and it came with two games. Of fucking course they were both dating sims, even if one has RPG elements.

>>3349075
>Blue Breaker
I have the Saturn version; thought it was kinda boring though. Maybe I'll give it another chance some day.

>>3349092
It is kinda dull. The game even does the battles for you, aside from some preset commands. It's just a dressed up dating sim. The other game I got was a Tenchi Muyo VN. God I hated that anime.

>>3349069
Yeah put your address as Australia and then look at the price

How's PC Engine emulation on the Wii?

>>3349437
pretty good if you got retroarch

>>3348321
Accepting bullshit meme language when it's not even relevant is what turns boards into absolute shit like /tv/ and /v/.

It's not coming to /vr/. If you allow this kind of garbage to spur discussion, it will be copied, and discussions will start to devolve.

We already have "What went wrong?" in here, which is another stupid fucking meme thing. "redpill me" is just a way of saying you have no ability to have an actual thought out discussion.

>>3332019
Surprisingly, Space Harrier on the PCE is the most fluent port I played on the console of late 80s-early 90s.
Are there more interesting games on the PCE if you aren't into SHMUPs?

>>3349484
The port of OutRun is pretty damn competent as well. Devil and Alien Crash are awesome, and the Bonk games are entertaining. I just got a PCE and a Turbo EverDrive and I've really been enjoying it, primarily for unique arcade ports. It's just a cool, overpowered 8-bit machine. If you're into the NES or Famicom, you'll probably dig it, even if you only play the HuCard Library.

>>3349484
>>3349486
i wish the fantasy zone port didn't look and sound awful

it actually plays kind of well too

>>3349472
Jesus christ how autistic are you

>>3348971
I'll have to check these out

>>3349437
Pretty decent and some notable games were released officially on VC

>>3349486
I thought that the PCE was 16 bit? I know it was not as powerful as the Genesis or SNES and was a bit older, but was it really 8-bit?

>>3349623
The CPU itself is 8-bit. It's based on the 6502, to the point where you can even port NES games to it.

It's pretty fucking fast though.

>>3348010
>9000% this >>3348985

>>3349623
>>3349626
I think the processor is even faster than the SNES, though don't quote me on that.

>>3349496
Awful sound effects (and occasionally awful music) feel like a recurring problem on the PC Engine. I had to get rid of the New Zealand Story port because the music and sound effects are so ear-gratingly bad. That and they fucked up the balloon controls completely and utterly.

The CD games seem to really suffer from the loud 8bit SFX drowning out the music.

>>3349484
I listed a few here that you might have seen a week (!!!) ago, >>3332702, but perusing more through my non-shmup library, I liked:

note: just talking about CD games this time; mostly Falcom!

Blood Gear: it's hard to properly quantify the game. On one hand, no one talks about it, making it underrated. On the other hand, people who do talk about it hype it like the second coming, making it overrated. I haven't beaten it yet, but I feel It's in between those extremes. A decent, well-made ARPG by Westone (of Wonder Boy fame) that is easy enough to navigate without knowing Japanese (a little trial and error is needed to figure out the game's simple menu system).

Brandish: dungeon crawler; you'll have to decide almost immediately whether or not you hate the game's bizarre and awkward camera system (look up videos to know what I mean). If you don't hate it, you might enjoy classic Falcom dungeon-crawling with mostly English menus to help us English-Only Peasants out.

Popful Mail: /vr/'s waifu! This is an expanded update of the PC original and very high-quality. However, you WILL need to use a FAQ, because despite having easy-to-figure-out menus and shops with visual icons for items, game progression is often times dependent on backtracking to old locations and talking with characters. That is annoying; however, the game is quite good otherwise.

Hon. mentions to: Legend of Xanadu II, Splash Lake, Magicoal, and Pop'n Magic

>>3349061
try this:
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=20933.0
there's a picture that shows the location of the trimpots, also mention of the 4.7uf caps going bad and needing replacement. good luck.

>>3349732
This is how mine looks, but I suppose not every white build has the same timrpot setup right?

>>3351643
i'm not sure, but in case you can't view the thread, i stole the image from it and here it is

>>3351817
I all ready read the thread but they don't really specify it. I also am not sure how to test the caps, Thing is that I bought that CD-ROM2 refurbished/repaired so I'm not sure if anything has been changed.

>>3351863
if you have the cash, send it to somebody that can repair things. if neither of the threads i posted make sense to you, then it's best to let somebody else handle it.

>>3332019
awesome system
buy it

everyone thought i was making it up back in 1990, we lived in an area where the TG16 wasn't around, but my cousins in NJ had it and a ton of games.

sadly, we have no idea where it went because i remember them having a lot of shit that is now like hundreds for just the card or disc alone.

>>3345971
its funny the background is pure white
its like they are walking into gaming heaven...