/vr/ - Retro Games

THE BEST THERE EVER WAS
Actually I'm pretty terrible.

There's nothing wrong with playing the CPU.

>>3286727
I'm only good at Street Fighter and Killer Instinct. Usually average at any other.

I'm a professional Smash Bros player.

>>3286727
Not serious competition good but well above average. But this comes from being patient, precise, and methodical, which really makes it not very enjoyable for me. I don't get off so much on beating someone at a game. I prefer to enjoy the game play.

On a scale of one to ten,

3

Me? I suck.

But I enjoy the game.
Bit I still suck.

I'm garbage at them. I own a nice stick but I use it for shmups mostly.

Not very.

was pretty beast at SF Alpha 2 but can't play mortal kombat for shit

I'm pretty bad, the least bad I ever got was in Tekken and DoA, maybe it's just 2D fighters I'm bad at.

i manage to do all the special tricks but always end up losing...

Been a fightin game man since 16bit era and I still suck ass at them.

I have a high aptitude for learning them as I go, so much better than average. But I can't really hang at tourney level.

>itt a bunch of scrubs
Reminder that your inaptitude at videogames directly mirrors your real life.

>>3286727
I don't see the point of replaying the same shit over and over to be slightly better than some dude you don't even know.

>>3287473
Competition is fun and healthy, I suppose you don't see the point of sport either?

>>3287472
Tournament environments are cancer these days, m8. Thinking somebody's personal worth is tied to how good they are at beating someone up on a TV screen is legit autistic. I've got plenty of experience interacting with people outside of tournaments who act like hot shit when they are at tournaments, and they're pretty much all socially retarded.

>>3286727

Good enough to enjoy it alone, not good enough to sit there and play a thousand online games in hopes of defeating 75% so my user profile will state how good at one single game I became after fighting over 9000 matches.

>Yes.. I just don't get it.

>>3286738
>Smash
>Fighting game

i was my groups mediocre guy during the super street fighter 2, tekken, virtua fighter era.
which means i can still kick any noobs butt though.

>>3286727
Fucking horrible. Only fighting game I'm remotely good at is Budokai 3.

>>3286727

This fatality was the first fatality ever I pulled off.

I think I'm good at fighters, but I'm generally good at any game.

>>3287958
>whatdoesittastelike.png

id like to know this too

I'm better than anyone else on /vr/ :)

>>3288223
dafuq, that GIF should be spoilered, ewwww

I am average at best when I play a lot at street fighter. Tekken I was usually among the best in my extended circle of friends but realised I was shit when I played online.

>>3287958
So many pants in this picture

>>3287958
>When underboob becomes 10/10 cleavage

>>3287958
Her neck always creeped me out though... I bet she'd be great at deepthroating.

>>3287472
reminder that being good at games is inversely proportional to your real life success

>>3289163
I dated a girl for a while who pretty much looked like Elena minus the hair. 5'11 and built like a statue. She was pretty amazing.

>>3287789
Literally this. I'd rather be a jack of all trades than master a single game that will eventually be forgotten in favor of the new thing.

I learned this from sinking 100s of hours into mastering SF3 back in the day. Now nobody plays it.

>>3289349
Most of those people move along to a new version of their favorite game as it comes along. SF2, SF3, SF4 and SF5 are different games, but similar enough that skills and practice transfer over.

But there's nothing wrong with wanting to be a jack of all trades player as well, however you enjoy your hobby time is all good.

>>3286727
I'm not good at bad fighting games, like that one, which has objectively unbalanced characters and has a CPU that completely literally cheats constantly.

>tfw nobody to play Tobal 2 with

life is suffering

>>3289382

Try finding someone to play Hybrid Heaven with.

I played it with some friends, but nobody who actually plays it and has his own character build on his memory card.

I fucking suck at them. I never got used to using a controller to them on home consoles. I also never wanted to drop the extra cash in a fight stick.

However, I am building a MAME arcade and already have the Tank Stick for it. Should be fun to go back and play those fighters the way I used to.

I only play them vs the AI, and only for the waifus. It's mostly for relaxing, my tryhard skills are focused on FPS games.

>>3287958
Puffy pussy to end all puffy pussies.

>>3289426
Looks like it would taste like sugar cubes to me...

>>3289480
Sugar cubes are shit when stacked against her Vagina. If I was in a desert dying from thirst and found myself having to choose between dat glorious femalepiece and water, without a second thought I would write on the sand "I died happy" and go downtown to the pussytown.

>>3289490
>tfw you die of thirst licking a CRT

>>3289505
> tfw mom comes in on it

Better than most of my friends to the point where it's not fun to play then with them because I always win but not good enough to actually be worth anything

>>3289804
>but not good enough to actually be worth anything
What does this mean?

>>3289872
I can dominate by friends but anyone who plays with any level of seriousness would likely wipe the floor with me, basically

>>3289904
Many years from now you may spawn a worthy opponent

Pretty shit at them, honestly.

I don't really like how they center around lots and lots of rote memorization and muscle memory.

Never mind 'git gud', I think they take way too long to even 'git competent' at.

It doesn't really help that fighting AI in these games really has -nothing- in common with fighting human opponents. There's pretty much no amount of practice against the cpu that will prepare you for a human opponent even their mechanical play is inferior.

I can understand being mocked for saying this, but if you think about it it makes sense. FPS games have always felt more "natural" to me than any other game type. You're put behind the eyes of someone, in a 3D space, and you have to look out for or locate or track or navigate yourself and others around you. Just like a typical primate in a jungle. Fighting games don't really have that for me, they are more about the button presses.

>>3290454

FPS is just moving a camera around, pointing and clicking with the mouse. In the end, it's pressing buttons. video games, yo.

>>3290454
The word you're looking for is "immersive". Competitive fighting game players don't play because they want to pretend they're good at fighting IRL (though I won't deny some people do play for that reason, but I digress), they want to obliterate their opponent in a game of anticipation and reflexes.

>>3290454
>they are more about the button presses

I hate having to push buttons too. Thank God for my Wii and smart phone.

>>3290665
THE button presses. As in, a order of button presses.

Did you actually think he was complaining about pushing a button? Trolling is dead, ironic shitposting is still shitposting. Sigh.

>>3290692
>a order

Also, I would have used a semicolon instead of a comma after "trolling is dead."

>>3286727
Good enough to beat this when I was 6.

>>3290723
That was intentional, just like how you're intentionally ignoring my accusation because you know you're wrong, fuck off and try harder next time. Idiot.

Im really really good at retro Tekken. The newer Tekken games are a little harder with everyone using ukemi's and counters for everything. Even with newer Tekken games Im probably still within the top 30% of players.

Im pretty average with all other fighting games. I dont think I really "suck" at any of them besides the ones I dont play much like Kingdom of Fighters and Samurai Showdown.

>>3290917
Oh also I got really really good with Baraka in MK. I dont really count that though since MK is so easy but for awhile I couldnt be beaten at all in MK.

>>3290454
They're just totally different. Fighters aren't any more about button presses than shooters are. That's just how you interact with the environment.

I am awful at fighting games. The only one I'm moderately skilled at is Smash Bros, and even by that series' hardcore tourneyfag standards I'm still like unto an ameba.

I'm decent. Unlike most people I do know how to play them, which is pretty rare apparently, but anyone who invests serious time in any given game will likely beat me because I'm pretty sporadic with my gaming, I'll game a lot for a couple weeks or so then just get burnt out and not touch a game pad for the next month, and with fighting games the only way to get great is to play a lot and to play a lot of different people

It kinda pisses me off desu, I wish all the options for online play existed when I was young and fighting games were pretty much all I cared about....now I can play most of my favorites online for free with great players all over and I hardly take advantage of it cause my attention is just elsewhere

Since when was Mike Haggar buddy buddy with Mad Gear?

>>3292803

>>3292804

I like them as party games. The fighting game community is disgusting and in my opinion getting good at these things is like, the opposite of fun.

>>3289361
>SF2, SF3, SF4 and SF5 are different games, but similar enough that skills and practice transfer over.
This is FALSE.

>>3292809
also Chiga BOOOOM

>>3287472
>itt a bunch of scrubs
Take your "fighting" community behavior and stay there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsJfLKtGlfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3UHJ09S88s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msGTk61pIlU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsMoGBsjhEw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WFDSy341XY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eku7Grt5XMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oR0IapLAjM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY_4WlYX3DU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf8f5qy7zQU

Smash Bros is the only fighting game that gets it right.

>>3292818
Salt compilation

>>3292824
>adult men scream like monkeys in the zoo

>>3292827
Yea, like all sports competitions?

>>3292820
>>3286738

Y'all talking about Melee? I'm okay, the best Ganondorf in Louisiana, which means pretty much nothing, but I'm still improving pretty consistently.

Also don't worry, I've already reported myself for not retro. I'll take you in 64 too.

>>3292831
>"sports"
You also call yourself a gaymer i suppose.

>>3292843
What should I call myself? A player? Get lost, kiddo.

>>3292818
>he has a compilation of all these videos
>clearly follows the fgc

Yeah dude...you couldn't make it any more obvious that you're a butthurt scrub.

And a "scrub" isn't someone who sucks, most people suck, a scrub is someone like you who's so eternally butt blasted

>>3292809
>in my opinion getting good at these things is like, the opposite of fun.

Getting good comes from learning how to play right and playing a lot....if you don't like either of those things then the games just aren't for you, not a big deal but some people get really mad that other people do enjoy it

There is something to be said about the fact that I've NEVER met someone who hated fighting games who was also good at them, anybody who hates them is just salty cause they get beaten and ragequit

>>3292820
Smash Bros isn't a fighting game. It has one or two elements of a fighting game....as well as platforming and party games. Calling it a fighting game is like calling Double Dragon a fighting game just cause it involves fighting

>>3292814
>This is FALSE.

No it's not. Obviously each version has it's differences that you need to learn and get used to. But the skills do transfer over to a degree. Someone who is a master at Street Fighter 2 has a strong advantage at SF 3, 4 or 5 than someone who hasn't played the series seriously. Even someone with experience with other fighters.

>>3293326
This is bullshit, outside of extreme basics your SFIV game won't help your SFV game. Not even if you pick the same character. And don't even get me started on SFII and III.

>>3293210
>then the games just aren't for you,
But I do play a lot casually.

>>3293835
There's nothing wrong with that, but don't get mad about losing to people who play more than you or are more serious about winning than you, like some people ITT seem to be

>>3293832
Maybe extreme basics is what they're talking about to be fair...I mean every SF game is different but knowing the basic things helps going into any of them as opposed to someone who never picked up a SF game in their life....I'll never have to bust my ass learning how special moves work, etc etc even in a brand new game, but their may be someone who's entirely new to the franchise spending like a week trying to nail a shoryuken

>>3293215
I can't say I understand this attitude. Is it what a fighting game has that Smash Bros doesn't have, or is it something incorporated into Smash Bros that makes it not-a-fighting game?

>>3293854
Well for one, skill. Execution. Timing.

>>3293853
Usually the skill gap between me and the tourneyfags in GGPO is so huge I can't even get angry. It's like we're playing different games.

>>3293864
You only get angry when you feel like you're evenly matched and you almost had it at some point. And that's frustrating. If you never had a chance to begin with who gives a fuck.

>>3293872
Maybe I'm weird but that's never made me angry, it just gets me more pumped.

>>3293857
>>3293854
I don't like Smash, and it is in between genres but I do think it fits better with fighters than other general party games. If there were more games like it it would be a subgenre, but it's kind of unique so gets stuck in limbo.

>>3293884
That's what I'm saying, we're in different mindsets.

>>3293890
Sorry, I wasn't the guy you were replying to. Just putting my two cents in.

>>3293853
lmao what a retard

Why do you hate interactive backgrounds so much? They even removed them from the latest Mortal Kombat.

>>3293907
Adds an unnecesary element of randomness to the match.

>>3293907
I really, really liked them in Injustice but that's one of the only cases I can think of where it was done really well. MKX felt like it fucked the balance a little.

>>3293908
When well designed it's not random.

>>3293902
I agree, you are a retard. Fuck off to the Zelda thread nerd.

>>3286727
Not bad but all I do is mash buttons. It somehow works out well for me

>>3294095
You're a Pig Guy.

>>3293215
Some autist had to say it. Better you than me.

>>3286727
Not very good, but I still play them anyway.

>>3293215
Seems like hair splitting to me, it's played regularly at figthing game tournaments, is primarily based around multiplayer vs matches and is about using moves and blocking against an opponent.

>>3294151
pork you

I love Third Strike, the best fighting game ever.

>>3286727
>>3292815

>using the one game when skills means jack fucking shit on input steal AI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkEMT4RXa5E

>>3294774
>thinking playing one player ever means anything in terms of skill for fighting games

It's ok to enjoy it, but don't lie to yourself. Anybody can learn to out pattern AI in any fighting game.

>>3294838
What about reflexes and knowledge of the mechanics?

>>3294850
>What about reflexes and knowledge of the mechanics?

These are important things when facing human opponents, yes

>>3286727
I like to think I'm pretty good.
My best game is definitely Virtua Fighter, I hover around top 5 in my country, when I lived in North America I could hang with the best in Canada (barring a few stars) and did pretty good against the US players too.
If I went to Japan I would get fucking destroyed though!

It's a relatively tiny community, but the best players are very very good and it's a strong community.

I also play KoF games, and love to try other fighters, but at tournaments I only play KoF and VF.

I find it funny that people seem to have bad experiences with the FGC, I've made lifelong friends through it, but I have noticed everywhere I go that it seems the bigger communities (mainly Capcom games) seem to be more prickly and have a bigger share of nasty people. I found the VF and KoF communities were always very welcoming to newcomers and just chill guys that wanted to have fun playing the game.

To keep it retro, my favourite retro fighters are:
VF2 - One of the best games ever made
KoF98/UM/FE - SNK's finest IMO
KoF2k2UM - Second only to 98 I think.

I also adored Soul Calibur on Dreamcast, that game was magnificent in terms of single player content, graphics, music, everything. Never played it in terms of 'competitive' nature but it was so fun.

>>3294969
From what I've heard Soul Calibur didn't get competitive till the 3rd game, personally I love first 2 though,

>>3294973
Ditto, after the disappointing VF3tb port to Dreamcast, Soul Calibur was amazing on that system. I loved playing through quest mode with all the interesting match stipulations and the like, and the various unlockables to be found in the game.

I love how high level tournament play boils down to using 3 characters out of a roster of like 30. Boring. I look at all those wasted assets and think, man there could have been a good game there instead of an autism showdown.

kinda unrelated question, but I've always wondered
how the fuck were people supposed to ever figure out fatalities? were they in the manual or something? were they released by the devs for guides/magazines to publish?
I just can't imagine someone bruteforcing them

>>3295453
I also love using low tier characters just to get corrected HURR NIGGER YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG. YOU NEED TO PLAY LIKE I DO TO WIN. NO CREATIVITY IS ALLOWED HERE WHATSOEVER.

I remember this one dude who had the audacity to pick Bruce in Tekken 3 and the community literally jumped on his neck for playing the game "wrong".

>>3295453

So answer me this, if high level play requires always picking the strongest character to win, why are SNK bosses banned from tournament play?

Seems a bit arbitrary to me. Who came up with these rules? Why can't you pick EX characters when playing Guilty Gear?

>>3295459
magazines, yep
the only point to faltalities is to make your opponent salty anyway

>>3295476
Because SNK bosses are deliberately and notoriously unbalanced and overpowered to where the skill ceiling for them is much, much lower.

It would also result in every match being OP boss vs OP boss, which makes for pretty horrible entertainment.

>>3295505
If it's in the game it's in the game, buddy.
KOF 98 and 2002 had entire teams of bosses to pick from. Why can't you git gud and beat them with a normal character?

>>3295518

>>3295518
One day a Japanese developer woke up and thought "Fuck, I love wasting money. Let's design a bunch of broken tier characters nobody is supposed to use".

It's arbitrary. Sometimes the FGC even comes up with its own rules to which characters are allowed to be picked, Marvel vs Capcom 2 and Smash Bros Brawl are the worst offenders in this where half the roster had to be banned.

>>3295529
It's almost as if they said "Fuck it, if they complete the game let them have some fun as the boss".

>>3295552
>fun
Fighting community banned having that.

>>3295552
Can't you see the disparity of everyone picking Fox because he is high tier but not Metaknight because he is too broken?

>>3295563
Smash was never intended to be competitive.

>>3295518
Are you really too dumb to understand why some people agreed to allow characters that are somewhat better than others (depending on game it's not even that bad, not everything is 3rd strike tier stupid) opposed to characters that were designed to be broken?
>>3295582
What does that have to do with his analogy you stupid retard? I doubt any early fighting games were designed with tournaments in mind, communities made those.

>>3295582

Have you ever made a competitive game?

>>3286727
about a 3. I don't like playing against the computer and never had anybody to play with IRL. brother hated fighters.

>>3289480
Guess how I know you've never been near a vagina in your entire life. There should be some kind of video game that explains how vaginas are foul cesspools that do not ever, ever, not once, ever, in the history of life or fantasy, have tasted good.

>>3295707
R-Type does a good job at portraying vaginas as frightening and dangerous.

I suck balls at mk but I'm above average at sf.

>>3286727
I have a template for anyone who wants to talk about who their mains are in fighting games.

>>3286727
I used to suck at them but now I think I'm a bit above average. I still suck at MK though.

>>3295453
Not if you play VF, it's balanced so everyone gets used!

Yeah I suck so fucking hard it's not even funny. I basically have to slam the controller. I don't play these games unless they are REALLY REALLY shitty because then they're hilarious, like that one for the jag where you can play as the guy in a kilt that shoots fire out of his dick

>>3295518
>>3295476
There is a difference between "strong" and "designed to be broken".
Same reason Akuma is banned in SFII and Dural is banned in VF, they are specifically designed to be boss battles and are in no way balanced for fair play.

Sometimes a boss character gets re balanced into a playable character, like Rugal in 98!

>>3295772
No DBZ games?

>Implying anyone but Trunks is worth playing

>>3295540
I don't think anyone is banned in Mvc2. Who do you think is banned?

>>3295540
>Marvel vs Capcom 2 and Smash Bros Brawl are the worst offenders in this where half the roster had to be banned.
I thought only Meta Knight was banned at one point in Brawl's history, and everyone is tournament legal in MvC 2, even Setinel.

I'm a decent Cammy main, but my dad was a tournament player in the early 90s with Street Fighter II as Guile. I've yet to beat him.

>>3296125
sounds like you have a pretty cool dad, anon.

>>3296050
sorry, no DBZ games.

>>3296125
That's awesome. I've actually seen a lot of dad's beat their kids at fighting games and it's all always a cool moment where the kids is like "I can't believe my dad is so good at this when I beat him at everything else"

>>3296294
And I mean that as in the kids is proud of impressed, not angry

>>3295462
That's why in SFIV I put all my effort into learning Dan. People get real fucking salty when you body them with Dan. It's great.

>>3295518
>>3295476
It's honestly hard to tell if you're pretending to be dumb or not, but KoF is really a team game. The bosses are designed so they're so powerful that even when it's 3 on 1 he still has a marked advantage.

>>3295707
lol I'm married. That was a joke about pixels, doofus.

Love fighters.
I am above casual level, but not smart/diligent enough to understand them on a truly competitive level.

>>3287948

What kind of game is smash?

I loathe the fighting game community and don't really have a lot of fun with the genre in general. I find the fighting games I like best have some sort of gimmick to them, that's why I'm having so much fun with Aggressors of Dark Kombat right now. I played for hours last night trying to git gud.

>>3286727
>I was that seven year old in the arcade sat on a stool next to my older 90s kid brother like something straight out of an issue of sega power

I'm average, my older brother is god-like. I really miss watching him btfo challengers

>>3293919
Name one well designed interactive stage

>>3297940
Casual party game.

>>3297962

Oh gotcha

We'll smash might be a worse "fighting game" than street fighter

But melee is infinitely superior to street fighter

>>3297965
not him, but way to make a apples and oranges argument.
>We'll

>>3286727

pretty awful, but i don't resort to button mashing.

>>3297941
Have you met the fighting game community in real life? Most of the internet children don't even come out to real meetups and just hang out in twitch. Most of the community are really great guys, especially the smaller games.