/vr/ - Retro Games

I really wish we had a dedicated mod.

>>3224797
If you really think left is better you're going to have to explain yourself.

>>3224794
>when it comes to trolling is underage always superior...

>>3224794
It's like /g/ and watches. Nobody has a watch anymore but some people enjoy the tech behind it. Same thing goes for /vr/ except with vidya. Not dissing emulation though.

>>3224794
I'd say a hacked 3ds is better since it has a backlight and with an old DS flashcard it can run *any* Nintendo handheld game on one device. I'd say it's as versatile as a PSP.

Where did you get the border on the right??

>>3224794
OP using your logic if I played an emulator on a crt with light shinning on it I would get the same effect thus making emulation just as shit no?

>>3225505
Using your logic, you're willing to go to painstaking lengths to play things in the shittiest fashion. It is no wonder why you prefer the left.

Emulation is better for some consoles but not all. For example n64 is obviously better on a real console but emulation offers a passable experience for a non enthusiast. But even popular games like sm64 or loz have major bugs. But emulation of consoles like the Gameboy, NES, Genesis or SNES has far surpassed the original hardware in terms of convenience and features. If you're so inclined you can even hook up your device of choice to a CRT TV to achieve the "retro" look. Eventually, an emulatable device will always be superior emulated. But in the early stages the original console is better due to the accuracy.

>>3224794
Real hardware is always superior in the case of consoles.
Emulation is always superior in the case of handhelds. Because my eyesight, and the working condition of my neck are valuable to me.

>>3224794

>>3225736
As and oldfag I hate to say it but so far this seems to be the case.
>as a kid choose handhelds for christmas with a big library over expensive home console with only a few games
>got a repuation for being "that kid with the GBC"
>get older, hands get tired, eyesight gets worse and neck pain from looking down
>ditch the handhelds and emulate on the living room tv with a comfy controller
It sucks but thats life. I got one of those jxd handheld which emulates "good enough" but even that is too small for my hands

>>3224797
this
god dammit

>>3224797
Same but I don't think it'd help all that much unless we make stricter rules... We have so many garbage threads and it's been so consistent for so long that any real /vr/ enthusiasts have packed their bags and left.

Notice that /bst/ is long gone.

The only types of threads that can avoid going to shit immediately are the more fervent generals like rct or crt which have enough community behind them to prevent a complete derailing and even then it's still possible.

We need to ban "meta discussion" of emulation (or at least contain it to a general) and whining about the definition of retro as well.

A lot of threads that have potential don't get anywhere either because if you explicitly mention a game you get at least a couple posters who'll say "that game sucks" enough to derail any real conversation, perfect example within a dozen replies in this thread: >>3222968

>>3225764
>real /vr/ enthusiasts
Yeah, man. I'm sick of all the retards that don't think that every single fucking retro game is a goddamn masterpiece. Obviously everything that ever came out before the year 2000 is a flawless gem. Should we jerk each other off about how awesome we are because we have the same opinion about a single game now?

>>3225764
>derail any real conversation
If someone sharing an opinion that doesn't align with yours about a videogame is enough to send you into a frustrated flurry of tears, then maybe you're not mature enough for conversation. You could always ignore posts you don't like, for instance. If you only want to hear opinions that echo your own, consider purchasing a mirror.

>>3225782
>>3225776
Hey, there's nothing wrong with opposing opinions. The problem is that most people here just shitpost instead of explain why they don't like x. This applies to the ones who mindlessly praise games too.

>>3225787
Op explained himself effectively enough. he even provided a picture that illustrates his argument.

>>3224794
I can't play GB games on a GB. It's easier to see on a GBA SP.

>>3225776
>>3225782
Look at the example I posted, I'm not talking about someone having a different opinion I'm talking about genuinely derailing a thread with what appears to be some kind of nervous breakdown(?)

These posters aren't participating in the conversation by saying "Your game sucks OP" (especially considering the game itself wasn't even the topic of the thread.)

If you genuinely think that that's an example of a good thread this board has bigger problems than I realized.

>>3225817
The thread isn't that bad aside from those posts, it wasn't even derailed.

>>3225817
>I'm talking about genuinely derailing a thread with what appears to be some kind of nervous breakdown
You mean like how you just did?

>>3226446
how do you suggest we approach the problem?

>>3225543
This guy has it right. N64 and Saturn are still behind in emulation but you can still play all the good games with it.

How come faggots think emulation always comparable to playing on the original hardware?

>>3226452
the purpose of hardware emulation is to replicate the behavior of the hardware in terms of inputs and outputs as good as possible. So comparison to the original hardware is kind of the natural yard stick for that.

>>3226452
Because it offers the same fucking experience.
I have a collection of original controllers and usb adapters for most consoles and I want to play

>>3226509
does the stick at the bottom move when you use the d-pad?

>>3226514
yes you ill-faded autists.

>>3226543
calm your tits, I was merely curious about the attention to detail

>>3226550
what is so hard to gasp about cycle accurate emulation?

>>3226561
what does animating the bezel have to do with cycle accurate emulation?

>>3226568
think about it. maybe you will understand the failure in logic you made in due time.

>>3226589
the screenshot looks like a super gameboy thing. The problem is, you seem to be focused on the emulator that's running it, which I don't give a rats fart about. I only asked about the bezel that's part of the game/SGB extension.
You're flying off the handle was more annoying than anything else though.
And that's not even covering how cycle accuracy helps or doesn't help to emulate a feature that very likely does not rely on it

I used to emulate.
Then i got a super fami and a genesis.
Now i feel more
>comfy senpai

>>3225543
We may had the superior N64 emulation device with Wii U

>inb4 Input lag

Input lag only happens with the Gamepad for some reason.

Shame is, the official emulator is still useless for some games (Harvest Moon is completely broken) but perfect for others (see Goemon 64 or Excitebike)

>>3225469
Hold select when booting the game.

I like both

>>3226697
no, you don't. On /vr/ you like one, and loathe the other and everybody that considers liking it

>>3226543
>Mario is moving left
>joystick is straight

Emulation is a great alternative to not having to deal with anything like displays, consoles, the original hardware and all that at the cost of not being able to play the game as 100% intended, but if you don't care about that then why bother? I love physical copies because I love the whole experience of getting it off the shelf and using it on a CRT and all that, but I can understand why you wouldnt want to deal with that, or most importantly, PAY for all of that.

>>3227652
Also here's another big reason I can think of.

>>3226646
>Input lag only happens with the Gamepad for some reason.
Except it's not exclusive to the gamepad, lets not even go into the slowdowns.

>>3227661
>he can't do cable management
It's a fucking art when you get it down pat. Pic semi related. There's plenty of easy to install home-related cable management accessories. I don't even see how this is an issue. I'm not knocking emulation, I do emulation in addition to real hardware mainly because I have more important shit to spend money on at the moment. But this is a dumb reason not to use actual hardware.

>>3226704
are you 3?

>>3227675
hello autista

>>3225764
>expecting quality discussion on 4chan

>>3227865
"BLUH BLUH BLUH WHAT, ARE YOU NEGATIVE INFINITY YEARS OLD YOU RETARDED BABY??" would have been a more effective insult to his level of thinking

>>3226598
He is just an idiot who doesn't have any idea what cycle accuracy means for emulation and like quoting byuu ars technica article as if it was holy bible without understanding a single word of it.

In short, brainless sheep falling for buzzwords... the kind you can easily scam and take advantage of though...

>>3227675
So far, i'm playing with the Gamepad and a Wii Classic Controller pro and i'm experiencing no input lag whatsoever with the last one (in fact, i think it's the superior option thanks to the octogonal gate)

About the slowdowns, now that's something i'm completely oblivious about. Wich games? So far i have Mario 64, Start Fox 64, Paper Mario and Wave Race 64 and haven't suffered anything.

>>3228202
Best controller is best

>>3228202
Not the guy, but Sin and Punishment on the pad is near unplayable. Input feels like it takes whole seconds to respond compared to the original, or even the Wii version.

>>3225543
I've never played an emulator that didn't have input lag. SNES emulators are particularly bad.

>>3226646
>We may had the superior N64 emulation device with Wii U
Yeah, if you're into the shitty, washed out darkened color look.

>>3228318
you're comparing the output signals. What's the comparison like if you push the signal on the right into a CRT, vs pushing the signal on the left into an HD LCD

>>3228321
>What's the comparison like if you push the signal on the right into a CRT, vs pushing the signal on the left into an HD LCD
The signal on the HD LCD looks like a trash can and the signal on the CRT looks good. The left even looks better on a CRT than on an HD LCD lmao.

>>3228318

This is how a N64 looks for people without space to keep a bigass CRT.

I'll take the shitty, wahed out darkened color look every day.

>>3228318
In fact, in game is not nearly as bad (forgot to add this)

>>3228339
let's not forget the input lag and badly mapped joysticks.

>>3228339
>no CRT
shoo off too /v/ cuz u ain't about that retro life

>>3225762
>get older, hands get tired, eyesight gets worse and neck pain from looking down
Dude, if you had a GBC when you were in the first grade, you're still in your 20s.

>>3228357
dude, if you partied hard enough, that body is in its late 50s

>>3224797
>/vr/ nazi

>>3228359
>drinking
There we go.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zgfvvcw

http://www.doctoroz.com/blog/jodi-sawyer-rn/how-fast-can-alcohol-age-you

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/09/tech/mobile/drinking-mirror-app/

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=152248363

Educate yourself, moron. My dad is 61 and he looks 10 years younger because he's never touched the stuff (or smoked). It's actually quite terrifying how many people his age (and younger for that matter) look like they're 75 because they didn't take decent care of themselves.

The left is better.

https://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp

>>3228368
I eat really well, lots of vegetables and lean meats, rarely have any junk food. I also don't drink any alcohol and haven't for many years now.

but...

I'm addicted to a low dose of benzodiazepines, smoke weed every day, and I don't exercise.

How fucked am I?

>>3228368
>drinking
I said partying. Sex (STDs), drugs (illegal ones), rock'n'roll (loud), no sleep, and so on.

>because they didn't take decent care of themselves
you know, partying

>>3228375
You'll die, just like everyone else. It's up to you to make the time spent enjoyable for you.

>>3228379
Of course I'll die eventually, that has nothing to do with what I asked.

>>3228381
it has everything to do with it. You're talking about dropping vices to extend life time or body state. That only works if you value the time more than what you do with it. The most straight edge vegan dies, and so does the most perma-drunk rockstar. Who spent their time better? You simply have that same choice, with an infinite amount of options and variations between these two extremes.

>>3228389
Again, my post has nothing to do with what I'm using my time for. It was a very straightforward question. Either answer it or fuck off.

>>3228403
>How fucked am I?
very

>>3228409
Elaborate?

>>3228412
no

>>3224794
having a real gameboy in your hand adds to the fun factor i believe, rather than just looking at an emulated thing on your monitor. feels so natural.

i do prefer retro console emulation on pc over playing the actual consoles though, assuming there aren't any major glitches etc

>>3224797
>>3225763
>>3225764
We do have a dedicated mod. He's a total cunt though and deletes good threads and leaves shitty ones. I made a thread asking uses if they could have any retro unreleased/prototype game (and console) or any game that isn't easily available (either in print numbers or due to ridiculous ebay pricing)

>>3228389
The reason to take care of yourself is so you don't have the body of a 75 year old at 50.

>>3228453
so what if you do? At least these 50 years were full of now, instead of missing out on things to maintain a somewhat stable state down the road.
If you prefer to play it quiet and wait for death to come, that's your choice. Others prefer to play it loud and fast, and get taken out whenever fate thinks it's time.

>>3228421
(shit must have deleted the second half of post)
...I made that thread and the faggot deletes the thread, but by gum, he'll leave the OBVIOUS BAIT, clearly a shitpost, /org/ - Overrated General thread where people post games that have universal acclaim and pretend they didn't like them.

>>3228462
>Others prefer to play it loud and fast, and get taken out whenever fate thinks it's time.
Yeah, like Kurt Cobain. He was happy and carefree right up until the end.

>>3228464
Heh, all these faggots acting like partying all day and drinking and drugs is somehow better than abstaining from all that shit and trying to live a perfectly healthy life, when both are just futile attempts to ignore the general lack of meaning and purpose to any humans existence. Not even trying to be edgey or whatever, do what you want, and argue about it, along with other meaningless things like retro videogames. Anything to forget how little it actually matters.

Myself, I don't plan to live past 70 but there's no reason not to practice a healthy lifestyle so you can enjoy the ride all the way to the end instead of being a broken down old geezer in your 50s.

>>3224802
I will

You look at it with your eyes, not with a camera and through a screen. And who has so much stuff reflecting off the screen? Looks awful. Take it outside or something.

If you feel you're fine with emulating it on 3DS, Android, PSP, or what-have-you, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. But holding the physical hardware which only has the processing needed to run these games is something we tend to not have any more. The original screen has a charm to it. Sentimental, mostly, but I thought that was the point of this board.

>>3228478
>there's no reason not to practice a healthy lifestyle so you can enjoy the ride all the way
A good reason is when "a healthy lifestyle" does not make you "enjoy the ride". It's just a lengthy commute then

>>3224794
There's always input lag. It may be short enough that you can ignore it in most cases but I still always feel it and it makes emulators unusable to me.

>>3228368
My dad is also 61 and looks 10 years older and he doesn't drink.

He works A LOT.

>>3228497
Yeah...working in the sun all day nailing tiles to a roof will age you too as opposed to spending all day in an air conditioned office.

>>3228501
No he works in an air conditioned office. He just works a ton, being stressed out for like decades in a row will age you like nothing else.

>>3228486
There's good evidence that a healthy lifestyle makes you happier, more energetic and more cognitively sound.

>>3228509
statistics and individuals. If someone gets personal joy from going to loud concerts, who are you to tell them "your fun is wrong"?
Regardless, at this point you're arguing technicalities, and don't give a shit about what's actually being said. So, you won, congrats. Mark that internet exchange as a victory on your sheet.

>>3228521
>statistics and individuals.
>i'm a special snowflake, human physiology doesn't apply to me

>>3228540
>i'm a special snowflake, human physiology doesn't apply to me

That's just baby boomers trying to pretend they're not getting old.

>>3228553
Funny to mention that because when you hear news blurbs about politicians wanting to raise the retirement age to 70 or some shit like that, the comment section on the site is filled with dozens of butthurt posts like "Holy fuck, we can't work until 70. Do you want a 70 year old police officer or a 70 year old EMT? I'm like 55 and I'm nearly dead from years of working as a bricklayer. My back and knees are totally gone. Fuck politicians."

But wait, if boomers aren't getting old and they're way fitter than previous generations, why are you so butthurt at working until 70? If you can't do it, is that a tacit admission that you're not really as fit and vigorous as you claim? Clearly you're not."

>>3228375
Inhale ketamine

>>3228315
That's probably a problem with either your controller's connection or drivers, or your video card configuration, and/or your TV or monitor specs and options.

I personally have massive input lag with some of the less compatible emulators and have to use very specific settings to avoid it (SSF for Saturn), but not with the more updated ones (any system within RetroArch, 'Video Hard Sync' is the best thing it adds to emulation)

>>3228583
It's more of that no one wants to work their entire lives, and work more rigourous than an office job get's harder as you get older, no matter how fit you keep yourself.

For example, lifting heavy bricks strains the body, and as you get older the body recovers from said strain much slower, even if you were capable of whatever task caused the strain.

>>3228682
That wasn't the point though. Deluded boomers think they're going to still have the body of a 50 year old when they're 80 and then...oh wait, they're not.

I'm not disagreeing with you here.

"How old would you think you was if you didn't know how old you was?"

-- Satchel Paige

>>3224794
>Playing on original hardware or emulating like a filthy plebian
>Not playing on glorious GB BOY COLOUR

>>3228706
My grandfather is 71 and gigs at blues shows sometimes. He was at this party recently and there's one guy there who turned out to be only two years older than him but he said holy fuck, the dude looked like he was well into his 80s. My grandfather said he could have sworn the guy was his father's age.

>>3228710
I kindof want but desu i hate handhelds

>>3228684
Sorry, I misread your post.

>>3228732
I'd get one, but the audio issues are kinda a con for me.

Stop talking about alcohol you autists. This thread is about how cycle accurate emulators (NES/SNES/GBA/etc) are superior to original hardware.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2erzqIrzRAM

will we ever get rid of the few ms input lag? I love emu but its not perfect

>>3229390
Original consoles often have greater input lag due to the poorer quality of components used for signal/input processing.

>>3225260
>nobody has a watch anymore

Sure, /g/'s resident basement-dwelling neckbeards may not have a functional need for a watch, but everyone I work with has a wristwatch. It's nice to be able to tell time without having to pull a phone out of your pocket, turn it on, get the time, turn it off, and put it back in your pocket. It's also considerably less rude to the people around you. What kind of people do you know that you don't think wristwatches exist anymore? Has anyone told Casio, Seiko, and Swatch that they don't make any money?

>>3229979
>i've never played on original hardware

>>3229148
seeing how this thread started with a guy doing a ton of meta bitching I think whatever is fine now, it's an upward tread as far as I'm concerned

I'm sure he had his reasons but honestly people whining about how they want more mods to ban and delete more is probably the most common cause of thread derailment

>>3228357
I was 17 when I got my GBC. Handhelds hurt my hands now.

>>3228484
I grew up with that shit too and it was fucking garbage, if we're being perfectly honest. Sitting by the window perched on a stool just to see the fucking screen or by a lamp with my gb at an angle towards the light and then managing to play for a couple of hours before the batteries run out. Or you could try your luck with one of those ludicrous peripherals that made it weigh 10 x more, needed a whole carry case to store and carry around, needed even more batteries and barely made any difference. Jesus Christ playing on a 3 inch screen with no backlight was terrible and deep down we all knew it even then even when these systems were new and exciting.

>>3228484
This guy gets it.

>>3228484
underrated

>>3224794
>comm is a different font

>>3225743
underrated post
Thing works like a charm.

>>3228710
But playing on a gb boy IS emulating.

I love it though

>>3230559
can anybody confirm?

>>3230046
>Has anyone told Casio, Seiko, and Swatch that they don't make any money?
maybe they should?

>>3230561
Ok, I might have precipitated myself when I said that. Technically its a System-on-a-chip clone, whether it counts as emulating is debatable, but it does have inaccuracies much like an emulator (usually related to speed).

>>3230591
>Technically its a System-on-a-chip clone
good to know, thanks

>whether it counts as emulating is debatable
I don't think it does, as there's no translation going on, which is kind of important for emulation

>it does have inaccuracies
due to the change of some physical aspects, almost inevitable. PSOne suffered from the same issues

>much like an emulator
There are many ways to go incompatible without emulating, an emulator is not a good yardstick here.

Regardless, thanks for pointing out it's a SoC, that's valuable info for anybody interested in getting that thing.

>>3230601
>as there's no translation going on
Well yes, but if you think about it, it's still a different hardware set to behave as another one which falls right into the definition of emulating.
Any case, it may not be perfect, but the GB Boy Colour is totally worth buying IMO. The games look really gorgeous on its screen, better than your average modded GBC.

>>3230680
>it's still a different hardware set to behave as another one which falls right into the definition of emulating

>In computing, an emulator is hardware or software that enables one computer system (called the host) to behave like another computer system (called the guest). An emulator typically enables the host system to run software or use peripheral devices designed for the guest system.

The SoC in the GBoy implements an instruction set (or a collection of them), and that's it, just another implementation. That host-guest relationship is part of emulation, and it's missing there.

>The games look really gorgeous on its screen, better than your average modded GBC
I'd be insane if I would break my GBC with a light mod. I honestly do not understand people that think it's a good thing.

>>3230692
I was referring to the general defnition of emulation: to try to equal, to imitate. Like you said, its another implementation of the instruction set, made to enable it to behave like the original gameboy. It just isn't the same hardware running in it.

>>3230728
>It just isn't the same hardware running in it
You'll have a hard time to find people agreeing with your definition of emulation. Because you effectively said AMD x86 implementations are emulating the Intel chips, or that the BC in a GBA is emulated. You're saying the PSOne is a hardware emulator.
I would not be surprised if GBP is running on a different revision of chips, maybe a different chipset, than the original DMG, which would also fall under emulation according to your definition.

You're also putting ALL ARM systems on the level of emulation. Tablets, phones, the lot of it, because ARM only provides references, instruction sets and so on. The chips are by third parties, built to implement these instruction sets.

On a software level, you're calling Dalvik/Android a Java emulator, since it's an independent VM, designed to be instruction-compatible to the JVM.

The "general definition" of anything is usually not helpful in specific domain, as words are overloaded with domain-specific meaning. In this case you're completely dropping the host-guest relationship. The SoC in a GBBoy is not a host, it's not performing any translation or having an interface layer

>>3225515

>Using your logic...
I didn't say I prefer anything.
>you're willing to go to painstaking lengths to play things
Plugging a console into a television is "painstaking"?
>in the shittiest fashion.
Weren't devices designed to be hooked up to a television?
>It is no wonder why you prefer the left.
You don't know what I prefer.

I'm sorry you feel inferior to other people. Just look how retarded it has made you. Take a break from 4chan for your family anon and get checked for schizophrenia.

>>3226509
Do you like wrestling angry anon?

>>3228710
>not playing with the nintendo official gba sp ags101

>>3228463
He deleted it again! The absolute madman! I can only assume that same image of a time warp triggers the mod's autism or something, probably reminds him of a vagina and it terrifies him because ANY interaction with another human, especially a female, would cause his fat clogged heart to seize up and kill him.

>>3230787
pOOp

oh hey look /v/ showed up

>>3228484
>The original screen has a charm to it.
It's fucking awful.

>>3224794
There is no superiority. It is subjective. Please stop making these stupid threads.

>>3231849
>It's fucking awful.
We're talking about the GBC screen, not your taste

>>3231861
the gb, gbc and the gba screen are in fact all awful.

>>3231861
autism

>>3231856
this, it always bugs me when certain big names in the retro scene make satements about playing on the original consoles being "superior" or equate it to "cheating". There are certain systems where the emulation isn't perfect, but when you get to big name old school consoles and 8 bit computers there is nothing wrong with the emulation for them.

>>3231861
actually the post the person was responding to was their own personal opinion as well, so yeah, they were pretty much talking about their personal tastes.

Fucking morons falling for obvious bait.

>>3233170
It's still true.

>>3228339

PVMs are still surprisingly affordable if you stick to 20" or less.

Can get a high TVL, multiscan 14" or medium TVL, 15khz 20" for ~$200 on ebay. Also you can get them for way less if you win the craigslist lottery or are willing to stalk hospital/TV studio maintenance technicians.

They only get retarded in pricing if you want a highres/multiscan at 20" and up.

You can still find huge consumershit sony's all over craigslist for $30, if you're willing to deal with ~300 lbs for only an *okay* picture quality.

Just to be clear these games were designed to work on consoles no more than 4~5 years old hooked up to tvs no more than around 10 years old. Not some 15+ year old hardware garbage and 30 year tv's. All of you calling console superior are not playing the way these games were intended

>people are actually defending in the gbc screen
the anti-emulation circlejerk has gone too far

>>3230784
I was just casually reading some 4chin fistfights but I for some reason your post made me cry laughing. Thanks I guess.

>>3234852
I only buy 45 inch and up TV's.

>>3237785
Why are you even here?

>>3237904
to talk about emulation.
are you in the wrong thread?

>>3238151
No, but you are. This is a troll thread. Hope you're trolling about playing 30 year old vidya on a 45" TV. You see, you thought you were coming off all hot shit with your big TVs but only proved what a dumb kid you are.

>>3238283
Look at the fucking OP image how is that trolling? The gameboy screen is objectively awful and emulating gives a much better experience.

>>3224794
Gamecube GB Player with the Gameboy Interface with an Everdrive plugged in on a good CRT is superior to whatever GB emulator you can find, faggot.

>>3238340
Maybe when you're a little older you can read the words and not just look at the pictures.

>>3238283
>the level of autism and personal investment with this particular anon

>>3224794
It depends on what you're emulating.

For 2d static consoles, I would say generally emulation is the better option due to the advantages it provides (save states, region free, netplay, playable on portable devices etc).

However I have a gameboy OG. Whilst I will admit that emulation has some advantages over it, such as the aforementioned save states, there are some things that mean I prefer to use it over an emulator.

1) Start up time. Flick the power switch, Nintendo logo comes down and 'ding!', game starts. When you're on a bus for 5 minutes, spending 1 minute getting started isn't the best.

2) Sound. For some reason that's probably very technical that I don't understand, most gb emulators sound like shit, whereas the gb itself sounds ok. Maybe someone can explain that one to me but yeah.

3) Depth. It's odd but the gameboy's pixels kind of 'float' about 2mm above the green background. It looks cool and no-one ever seems to emulate it. It adds a feeling of depth.

4) Battery life. My brother got me my GB OG for my birthday and it lasted over 40 hours on the batteries he put in it. Modern batteries last forever in an old GB.

5) Chunkyness. Thing is super durable man.

6) Controls. Chunkyness makes the controls feel right.

So yeah, I wouldn't say that it's *better* than emulating, but both have their pros and cons. I prefer using my GB, but I'll emulate a snes all day long.

>>3239871
i always play gb games on my psp

>>3239871
>3) Depth. It's odd but the gameboy's pixels kind of 'float' about 2mm above the green background. It looks cool and no-one ever seems to emulate it. It adds a feeling of depth.
faint shadow on the attached pic

>>3240120
>using filters
that looks ugly

>>3240124
fair enough. It was not supposed to be a recommendation. Just an example of a shader attempting the described effect. Here's another one, though the effect is even less pronounced.

>>3240129
that looks sweet. i like that one

>>3239871
>3) Depth. It's odd but the gameboy's pixels kind of 'float' about 2mm above the green background. It looks cool and no-one ever seems to emulate it. It adds a feeling of depth.

3DS does this with the Virtual Console if you use the original resolution option, taking advantage of the 3D to give depth to the screen.

Also the battery light intensity changes with the 3DS' battery state. Pretty rad.

>>3239871
>It's odd
it's an inevitable aspect of the screen. The green is the reflective layer behind the LC layer. The LC layer just blocks light or lets it pass through, so you either see dark, or the light background. It needs to sit in front of the reflective layer. The "distance" is just technical reasons for the assembly of this "sandwich"

My biggest gripe with emulation is with controls. Games aren't the same without the original controller (and I'm yet to find a decent USB controller or adapter).

I realize it's a complete placebo, but there's a certain feeling of satisfaction that I get when playing a game on the original hardware. And maybe there really is something to the notion of "this is how the developers intended the game to be seen, not on a flatscreen hd monitor".

But I just can't be bothered most of the time. I love Chrono Trigger, but I'm not gonna shell out $150+ CAD just to play it on SNES.

When you get into 3D games it's a bit different, because you can tweak the resolution and make the game look arguably better than the original. That's a whole different can of worms.

>>3240387
try raphnet adapters:

http://www.raphnet-tech.com/

>>3240391
>"this is how the developers intended the game to be seen, not on a flatscreen hd monitor"
grade A shitposting, well done

>make the game look arguably better than the original
I went from an accelerated emulator to one running on the guest resolution. The reason is simply consistency. What's the use of increased resolution, if hud and models don't fit any longer, if the models look needlessly smooth and flat?

>>3240402
>grade A shitposting, well done
I'm not saying I believe that, I'm just acknowledging the argument. I think 99.99% of the time that's not true.

>>3240391
>>3240402
I'd like to add, it's impressive how you manage to say on one hand "developer's intent" and then turn right around and upscale polygonal games, and fuck intent

>>3240409
>I'm not saying I believe that
>And maybe there really is something to the notion of
sounds like a phrase perfectly in agreement with the statement following it

>>3240410
I was going to make a point about that but my post was rambling enough as it was - that's why I said "arguably better". Maybe certain games will benefit completely from upscaled resolution, but you might be making other games look like shit.

>>3240415
>Maybe certain games will benefit completely from upscaled resolution
sure, but that's in conflict with developer intent, no? So what's the real criterion?

>>3240424
I guess you have to go on a game-by-game basis. I don't really emulate enough 3D games to give examples, but I'm sure there are cases where upscaled polygons will look good, and cases where they will look like shit.

Again, you seem to think from my original post that I care a lot about "developer intent", that's not the case, I was just acknowledging that in certain cases there may be some validity to that argument. But you will never see me using emulation filters or anything like that.

>>3240426
>I was just acknowledging that in certain cases there may be some validity to that argument
were you? Or were you just using the developer as decoy to hide your own "I like this look more" opinion? Because that's what you use for 3D games. No intent, no old hardware, just what looks "better" to you on a case-by-case basis.

>>3240436
Dude I upscale all my 3d games when I emulate them, I don't care about any of that. I have a beefy computer and I want to flex it as much as I can.

I'm not sure exactly which of my comments you're taking issue with.

>>3240440
Here's what you said:
2D: I kind of miss the old CRT, something something developer intent
3D: I want full resolution, fuck the developer, or hardware, or anything else

It looks like dishonest shitposting. If you prefer the old CRT scanline whatever look, knock yourself out. But don't go all holy on developer intent. You don't give a fuck when it comes to 3D visuals. Can't have it both ways.

>>3240448
You completely misunderstood me but I can't blame you since my original post was poorly written and rambling. Ultimately we're just arguing over my own opinion at this point so this is a very mundane debate.

For all games I get a kick out of playing on original hardware. I know it's just psychological but I find it satisfying.

But if I'm unable to play on original hardware I don't really care too much about authenticity. I'm fine with playing 2D games without filters and I upscale my 3D games.

But I can respect people who try to stay true to the "developer's intent" if they feel so inclined. I, personally, do not give a shit about that kind of thing, but I can understand if somebody wants to.

That's all I'm saying man.

>>3240391
It's not a complete placebo. There's value in playing a game with 100% accuracy with an original controller. The holy grail of emufags is 100% accuracy and a USB replica of an original controller. If it was just a placebo they wouldn't be so desperate to reproduce it. They use filters to make their LCDs look like CRTs for Gods sake.

>>3239106
>this is a troll thread

>>3240387
I use a Buffalo usb snes pad, feels great with gb/nes/snes etc

>>3227641
what happened to his ears?

>>3241176
10/10 Best troll of teh troll thred

>>3241014
>The holy grail of emufags is 100% accuracy and a USB replica of an original controller.
Certainly not for everyone. A lot of them will consider the ability to use a larger variety input and output devices as an advantage.

>>3241817
True. Most emupoors can't afford more anything more than a cheap USB PSlike controller and can only drool over pics of those $5 SNES replicas.

>>3224794
>emulation
>Input lag
>poor I/O

Won't even get into Color temperature, screen curvature, scanlines, response time, phosphor layout, phosphor speed

KEK. Nice baby's first troll thread OP

>>3242125
Because that has nothing to do with emulation.

>>3224797

>asking for a mod

ಠ_ಠ

>>3242175
>tripfag wants the board to be shitted up
typical tripfag behavior

>>3241745
It's a good controller.

>>3242125
>input lag
You've never emulated have you.

>>3243097
It's not. But if it makes you feel better about wasting your money then keep telling yourself it is.

>>3243287
It's was only $10, and the 1,000 5 star ratings disagree with you :^)

>>3230046
how can you handle the itching. doesn't matter if it's leather, rubber, striped nylon. it always itches
I always hated watches, rings whatever

>>3243526
Don't give a shit about what 1k hipster babies do out of habit kiddo.

>>3243567
you might have a skin condition.

>>3238340
Fucking this

>>3225762
I rike monochrome. I just don't want it in green.

>>3247327
green > b&w

>>3230552
can't play GBC games on it.

>>3224794
Objectively, yes, but it's really a matter of taste.

>>3250349
>matter of taste
/thread

>>3225276
No hacked system is as versatile as a PSP.

The PSP was incredibly painless to install CFW on. Originally, all you had to do was softmod your battery by taking an x-acto knife to a specific circuit trace, and you could install CFW by literally dragging and dropping it onto your mem-stick and rebooting your PSP.

Then the huge breakthrough came some years ago, where you can literally run a fake-signed .EBOOT file (PSP app file),
and literally just install w/o any sort of exploit required.

Using a PSP as an emulation machine has advanced to the point where any firmware can be hacked with the press of one button. It is as painless as it gets.

>>3250349
>Objectively, yes
Do you beleive that input lag is not a thing? (Becuase that's 'objectively' untrue.) Do you believe that every system has an emulator that doesn't fuck up any game?
Come on, m8. If you said 'I think so' or just 'yes' you'd be good, because it sure is a matter of taste, but if you're going to claim to be objectively correct you can't just leave it at that.

>>3248910
>Opinion trash
Here's a (you). I don't even eat green M&Ms

>>3250587
>Originally
The battery thing took a while, and so did Custom Firmwares. The first years were a pain in the ass with the GTA downgrade and needing an iso loader to play anything older than 1.5.

Plus memory sticks were usually of a pretty small size and emulators were a lot more primitive. Meanwhile DS was just
>buy a R4

>>3250587
Where would one get this file?

>>3252379
Everything you need is in the sticky

>>3227661
>>3227861
ready for a big surprise...

>>3252363
DS couldn't even emulate snes well.

>>3253472
Because its hardware sucks.

>>3225543
This guy gets it

Maybe going too far in assuming every platform will eventually be perfected in emulation but almost all VR stuff for sure

>>3253472
Sure, but it emulated Nes, Master and Megadrive just fine and was infinitely easier to hack and deal with. PSP was a lot better as an emu machine but required you to know your stuff.

GP2X had the upsides of both so it was the way to go up until the pandora battery came out, then the PSP, and now it's probably some shitty Android console.

>>3243097
>Actually thinks emulators don't have lag, or create lag that gets worse when coupled with a slow display

Baby's first emulation thread?

I love emulation for the PS1 and Gamecube, since you can upscale the graphics to any resolution you want, apply AA, AF, etc. You can actually make those games look like their promotional bullshots :)

Don't really care to emulate the 16 bit eras and below. I don't want to build a separate computer to hook up to a CRT (I don't care how many cute filters you apply, the fact the image needs to be cropped down to 4:3 kills the "authenticity" of the image. Not to mention the lack of screen curvature, input lag, etc). Nor do I want to have to "keep up" with the latest emulator releases that fix the problems of past versions. I haven't played around with emus in a couple of years, and I'm sure the latest NES, SNES, Genesis, etc emus have improved, but the latest and greatest ones I had at the time just could never get the sound consistently right on many games.

I'll put up with that shit for the PS1 and Gamecube, since playing Omega Boost in 1440p with AA is worth the hassle, but for the 2D eras, emulators don't improve the experience at all over the original hardware, unless you really need savestates and netplay.

And granted, they are needed to play those uber-expensive games that are simply not worth the price of admission (unless you want a rare game for collector purposes), like Little Samson or Alien Soldier (great game, but paying 300-500.00 for a game that can be beaten in an afternoon doesn't seem very worth it).

>>3254093
>the image needs to be cropped down to 4:3
what?

>you can upscale the graphics to any resolution you want, apply AA, AF, etc
>Not to mention the lack of screen curvature
find the cognitive dissonance

>I haven't played around with emus in a couple of years
it shows

>>3254106
>the image needs to be cropped down to 4:3

On a widescreen LCD TV. Unless you like blowing up your 2D games to widescreen and stretching the image to all Hell.

>find the cognitive dissonance

Nope. The PS1 and Gamecube use, you know, 3D Polygonal graphics that greatly benefit from higher resolution, anti-aliasing, and the like.

There's no such improvement for 2D sprite-based games via emulation, unless you like your SNES games to look like some 2015 indie PC game done in the "retro style." I happen to think overly sharp pixels look like dogshit.

>it shows

Why should I keep up? There's no advantage to emulating that era unless you're poor and can't afford the systems or need savestates because you're too lazy to learn how to beat the game properly.

>>3254126
>On a widescreen LCD TV
nothing gets cropped, I see the full image. I don't need every single pixel of my screen lit, so a bit of pillarboxing is fine. Same pillarboxing you see on widescreen CRTs

>The PS1 and Gamecube use, you know, 3D Polygonal graphics that greatly benefit from higher resolution, anti-aliasing, and the like
You're fucking with the visuals of these 3D systems well beyond what they output back in the days. Then turn around and for some reason insist that playing 2D games requires the curvature of the screen, which is not even part of the output. You don't give a shit about authentic 3D output, and that's fine. But it considerably weakens your "points" regarding 2D output. If you cared about that authenticity even one iota, you'd insist on running GCN or PS at their native resolution, with a fat CRT filter and screen curvature and all that bull you demand.

>There's no such improvement for 2D sprite-based games via emulation
if only PS, N64 and the likes would mix 2D and 3D elements on screen, creating strong and somewhat ugly disconnect when using increased resolution. Fortunately that's not the case.

>Why should I keep up?
You don't have to. But it's not a good idea to "complain" about emulation with half a decade old talking points. If you didn't like it, that's cool, play whatever you want. But you went out of your way, calling present day emulation a bad thing, based on your long ago experience with them. That's the problem.

>unless you're poor
>or need savestates
Now you're in plain shitposting territory. I suggest you fire up your SNES and go play a game or two. This thread is not for you

>>3254145
>nothing gets cropped, I see the full image. I don't need every single pixel of my screen lit, so a bit of pillarboxing is fine. Same pillarboxing you see on widescreen CRTs

I don't like black bars. And I don't use a widescreen CRT for retrogames. So your point is moot.

>If you cared about that authenticity even one iota...

Okay, change my "authenticity" to what looks the best. 2D games on an LCD screen look like shit to me, even using the filters. I don't like the blackbars and the flat-screen. Not to mention, 2D sprite based games through SCART on an average consumer grade CRT simply looks better than the game on my 2460x1440 LCD with an IPS panel. Better colors, better contrast, etc. Trust me, I've done a shitload of comparisons.

>You don't have to. But it's not a good idea to "complain" about emulation with half a decade old talking points.

None of my talking points are "a decade old," since I pretty much clarified the reason I don't like emulation is because I have to keep with the latest releases, meaning I have to download the latest version again, configure it again, map it to the front end again. With the original hardware, I just grab the fuckin' game and pop it in.

I'm about fed up with all of the constant PSXe and Dolphin releases that seem to come out every month, but I like I said, I'll put up with it because you get massive improvement in image quality (per my taste) over the original hardware. Again, you get nothing of the sort for 4th generation era systems and below (or even the 2D 32 bit era games, which I do play on my CRT on the org hardware).

>Now you're in plain shitposting territory.

Not really. The main reason for emulating that era is so you don't have to spend money on systems and games.

I do agree that there's some games have reached absurd price points, but they are starting to make reprocarts of those rarities. Not sure how good they are though.

>>3254161
>what looks the best
To you, it's personal preference at that point. I emulate PS on its native resolution(s), after I had epsxe running at high resolution for a long time. I prefer the native resolution, and have my reasons for that. You're not the arbiter of what people like, no matter how much you want it to be

>you get nothing of the sort for 4th generation era systems and below
Again, YOU. That is YOUR personal stance. It's fine to have as a personal opinion, but not beyond that.

>>3254169
>You're not the arbiter of what people like

Exactly why I stated "per my taste."

>Again, YOU. That is YOUR personal stance. It's fine to have as a personal opinion, but not beyond that.

Indeed. I forgot about the HQx2 filters and the like, which look like steaming horseshit, and since I've never heard any retro gamer praise those filters, I didn't think about them as an "improvement," but if you like them, carry on.
I still think it's about not having to buy games and systems, though :^)

>>3254174
>Exactly why I stated "per my taste."
not in your original post

>I forgot about the HQx2 filters and the like
Nobody mentioned them. So for the sake of this exchange, I consider them a straw man

>but if you like them
I don't use them. I just don't tell people not to use them and try to be an authority about it

>I still think it's about not having to buy games and systems, though
kill yourself. Or if you don't know how, ask someone on the street to do it for you

>>3254180
>not in your original post

The first phrase of the first sentence of my original post:

>I like

That means the successive text should be considered as my "opinion."

>Nobody mentioned them. So for the sake of this exchange, I consider them a straw man

I don't think you understand what a strawman is. It's usually misrepresenting a person's argument to make it easier to counter.

If anything, me referencing those filters gives your argument more weight, since those filters are something the original hardware can't do. I actually strengthened your position.

> I just don't tell people not to use them and try to be an authority about it

Neither do I. Did you miss me saying "carry on" (on the assumption you might use those filters)?

>kill yourself. Or if you don't know how, ask someone on the street to do it for you

Okay, if you don't use those filters, then why emulate? Sans those filters, the original hardware is still "objectively" superior.

>>3254197
>That means the successive text should be considered as my "opinion."
The following
>the fact the image needs to be cropped down to 4:3 kills the "authenticity" of the image
does not sound like much of an "opinion".

>Did you miss me saying "carry on"
You know the connotations of the phrase in this context, dipshit

>then why emulate?
none of your business

>the original hardware is still "objectively" superior
You probably shouldn't comment on subjects you don't understand

>>3254206

>does not sound like much of an "opinion".

Why do you think I put authenticity in quotes?

>none of your business

Translation:

I'm too cheap and/or poor to buy the games and systems.

>You probably shouldn't comment on subjects you don't understand

Lol at you thinking the only systems are NES, the Genesis, and the SNES.

How's the Colecovision, Intellivision, and Vectrex emulation these days? When I download an Intellivision ROM, do I get the overlays with it? Does the unique controller magically materialize from my printer?

What's the state of Turbografx 16 and Turbo Duo emulation?

Oh, how about light gun games? Yeah, playing Lethal Enforcers or Snatcher with the mouse is just amazing. Objectively superior.

Really, if one game has a sound glitch, a graphical glitch, or some other emulation caused bug, then it is not "objectively superior" to the original hardware. And maybe the more popular systems can now be 100% accurately emulated (I wouldn't bet on it, and the burden of proof is on you here), but I seriously doubt TG16, Saturn, and N64 emulation are anywhere close to accurate.

So yeah, you emulate because you're fuckin' cheap.

Isn't that why they call you Emupoors?

>>3228502
I still wonder why people do that. Every time a job of mine was pushing me beyond my capabilities, I'd just resign and find another one. Stress will kill as fast as alcoholism and I'm not dying because of work.

>>3254584
>I still wonder why people do that
income security. The alternative is more stressful

>find another one
You're funny, tell another

>>3254606
>The alternative is more stressful
Depends on what you work with and if you have contacts.

>You're funny, tell another
Switched jobs only once and didn't stay more that two months at home. You just need contacts and know where to look

>>3254621
you assume getting and maintaining contacts is not stressful

>>3254624
It may be but not to the point where you lose your hair and lose sleep stressful.

>>3254630
Don't assume your own impression applies to everyone

>>3228315
Emulators don't add lag it's usually your video drivers that do. Try disabling vsync and you should see a notable decrease in input lag, but in any case if you're using a monitor with a lot of inherent display lag it's not gonna help much

>>3228670
>>3254649
You suggest these things like I haven't already spend an inordinate amount of time trying it all and attempting to fix it.

>>3225762
I remember finding extreme advertising funny. Now nothing on the internet is funny.

Can't tell if I grew up, or the internet just got saturated with juvenile shit like this to the point you just sort of filter it out.

>>3254037
>believes everybody has slow shit computers, uses old shit emulators and has the kind of slow response time monitor you can't often find anymore, just because it supports his theory.

>>3254649
>don't add lag
Technically you're correct. They don't add lag, they are lag.

Man the GBA was godtier. It had a buttload of terrible shovelware, but more amazing and good games than any other console I can think of. It's just that everything is like a 9/10, 7/10 or 2/10 with little in between, but the inbetween isn't really worth your time anyway.

I'm new to this board, but what is the opinion on shit like the Retron? It seems so expensive and I hear they are pretty crappy, but I don't think I have enough room space for 4 different retro consoles in my room.

>>3260309
Just dont. Og hardware or bust. Make room

>>3260315
Damn it. I guess I'll just grab an SNES. I'm going to a retro game convention in July and I don't want to be just window shopping the entire time.

>>3260315
>>3260323
Oh and speaking of, as someone who basically has no experience in the scene (I don't know if you guys have a FAQ or something), what is the best value for someone trying to get into it? I am basically a Nintendo fanboy, but most of those games are pretty readily available without going back to OG hardware.

>>3260309
Shitty ARM crap with the added drawback of needing cartridges. x86 is the only way.

>>3260420
Eh. Emulation isn't exactly what I am looking for. I can play an emulator on my PC.

>>3226589
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>3260349
Best value is to get either a genesis or a japanese super famicom. American snes games are way too expensive

>>3224873
Yes.

>>3260460
Japanese games are cheaper? I wouldn't have guessed that.

>>3260427
The Retron 5 is literally just that, it's ripping ROMs from your carts and then emulating them, poorly. If you're going to emulate, emulate. If you want to play with real hardware, buy real hardware. There's no in-between my friend.

>>3260607
Fair enough. I guess I'm just a collecting hoarder. I just love the idea of having a bunch of old games. But yeah, I'll just get the OG hardware.

>>3260613
I actually prefer collecting the hardware over the games for some reason, I just got a Famicom EverDrive and it's pretty fucking cool.

>>3260724
Neat. I would do that, but I still live at home, so I can't like display all of them in a special room.

>>3260912
I live in a one-bedroom apartment with my girlfriend, so my /vr/ stuff is in bins under my desk until I actually need them... the majority of my collection is in storage at my parents' house several states away. Focusing on Famicom and PC Engine for now, helps me not take up too much space.

>>3228484
You're so full of shit. I grew up playing the big grey brick. Emulation is easily better

>>3260920
Yeah. It is probably smarter to focus in on one thing, but yeah, the big fear is just creating more junk I can't find time to play with or even display.

>>3260309
>>3260323
Don't listen to these autists who say "ORGINAL HARDWARE ONLY GTFO". It's literal cuckoldry to pay the prices sellers ask on ebay for games. I can maybe understand if you're a collector but if you just want to play games then it's retarded. Enjoy paying $200 to play earthbound.

>>3261404
"real hardware vs. emulation" and "buying legit copies of games vs. pirating" are really two separate topics.
You can run pirated games off flashcarts and CDRs on real hardware, and you can emulate legit copies by plugging them into cart readers (Retrode, etc.) or retrons/gamefreak boxes or sticking them in your computer's DVD drive.

>>3224794
No, from an objective standpoint emulators are not always superior. They outright cannot run some games and in the case of the Nintendo 64, they sometimes run games exceedingly poorly. That said, when they do work well, they're a million times better. Especially with handhelds.

I remember trying so hard to avoid the problem of handhelds when I was younger. I got the Super Gameboy to play Pokemon on the TV instead just because it was drastically superior. I bought Harvest Moon: Back to Nature to avoid playing on the GBC. It was all building up to eventually emulating. As soon as I plugged a Dualshock 3 in and started emulating more modern titles, it was over. If I could keep emulating modern hardware today, I would in a heartbeat. Too bad we hit a wall after PS2/GC/Wii.

>>3260979
>I grew up
Doubtful. You sound like an underage who just saw his first LP.

>>3225543
Audio Latency in Emulators(like MAME) is a thing so you're wrong

>>3226561
>cycle accurate emulation
quit misleading people
bsnes(or Higan as it's called in the latest versions) is only cycle accurate emulation for SNES games

>>3261404
Honestly if you arent playing your retro games on real genuine hardware you are a faggot and a cuckold who isnt about that life. Niggers arent genuine

>>3229979
And it's emulating those components so it's adding input lag on top of that you idiot

>>3240410
>upscale polygonal games
>upscale
Holy fucking shit you're retarded
You don't upscale 3D graphics you fucking faggot you fucking uprender them internally you fucking noob

>>3240448
You're a faggot who doesn't get how 3D graphics work

>>3251539
Input lag is irrelevant for Gameboy Games to be honest

>>3254169
>To you, it's personal preference at that point.
No
This is bullshit
High res 3D graphics objectively look better than low res 3D graphics(provided they don't have pre-rendered backgrounds like Resident Evil/Final Fantasy on PSX)

And if you emulate on a CRT Monitor you get the best of both worlds(high res graphics and the CRT's deep black levels and rich color/contrast)

>>3254225
>And maybe the more popular systems can now be 100% accurately emulated
The only one so far is the SNES with Higan

>>3260460
Or you can get an American SNES and break the pins inside the cartridge slot and voila you can easily play Super Famicom games

>>3261507
Why didn't you play blue and red with pokemon stadium, anon?

>>3262131
I did play it with Stadium 2 sometimes. I didn't own Stadium 1, only rented. I don't remember it being around at the time I bought the Super Gameboy. Also, Stadium 2 forces you to load up a separate game to play the game you want to play, even if it has its benefits.

>>3261404
Well, I was asking between original hardware or playing carts on 5in1 shitty consoles. Either way I am buying the games. It is more of a hobby thing.

I have Earthbound on my 3DS. And yeah, I can emulate whatever I want, but if I snag a copy of a game at a con or something, I'm more likely to play it than if I have a big folder full of Roms.

>>3262514
Play original carts on a 5in1 console to get double cucked.

>>3262514
>I'm more likely to play it than if I have a big folder full of Roms.
Sounds like a personal problem. I don't need to buy a game to give myself the motivation to play it.

>>3264458
Eh. I mean, it is a personal problem. I don't have time or energy for things. I don't know where you guys find it.

>>3261470
the worst of both worlds

>>3228490
no lag on my 120hz monitor :^)

>>3267190
>my brain works too slow to notice the lag
>i'll say i have a 120hz monitor because i think it makes a difference and anyone will be impressed
FTFYK

>>3224794
>play left on car trips
>Neck hurts because can't hold it up or lighting on screen gets fucked
>cant play at night without some fucking go-to gadget reading light bullshit

>emulate on fat ds
>everythings back lit
>no random hardware related frame drops
>save scum and fast forward cut scene/dialogue options
>color filter options for bw gameboy games
>neat border options or even stretch to fit if you're a open

Emulation is God, king, and country.

>>3267403
>fatds
Fuck I'm retarded I meant dslite

>>3267252
You're wrong.

>>3268865
>someone is impressed
Who's wrong?

>>3269968
>Who's

>>3225764
>Notice that /bst/ is long gone.

They went away because it was almost nothing but people wanting to sell for outrageous prices and people wanting to buy/trade for prices that were ridiculously low.

>>3240120
The problems with accurately representing depth are the low resolution of most consumer displays making it difficult to accurately portray drop shadows without obfuscating the image and the lack of 3d displays or viewpoint movement to clearly differentiate the foreground from the background.

>>3270495
>low resolution of most consumer displays
consumer displays are largely in the +200dpi range. It's ancient desktop panels that are stuck at 96dpi

>>3224802
The left is real, the right is not real

The left is less likely to have issues, the right probably has issues and glitches, and inaccuracies

The left has actual buttons, the right could have a shitty touch screen for all you know

>>3270508
>the right could have a shitty touch screen for all you know
the right could also have a dedicated controller of your choice. You were reaching a bit with that one

>>3270519
I'd rather the classic gameboy buttons, thank you very much

Also I can take the left on the go without sacrificing tangible buttons

>>3270526
So can everyone else.

>>3270526
I prefer the GBC myself. All I said was that your last statement was reaching, as the method of control is up to the player

>hey i like to play retro games
>NOT ORIGINAL HARDWARE FUCKING BAN GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEE

/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3270548
Collectorfags are fucking obnoxious, right?

>>3270504
>consumer displays are largely in the +200dpi range

Absolutely false. A small minority are. Wait until 4k is mainstream before you expect ultra realistic display shaders.

>>3270548
Thread OP is almost literally the inverse of that, amigo.

>>3270884
>Absolutely false
want to look again at tablets and phones? That's consumer displays. The desktop is dying out

>>3270508
Gameboy emulation is accurate.

>>3270896
You are an idiot. Nobody talks about tablets and phones for emulation, and sure as hell not for advanced shaders.

>>3270508
>the right probably has issues and glitches, and inaccuracies

ITT: It's 1998

Original hardware on a PVM is the best experience. Emulation is an alternative if you're lazy, poor, or both.

>>3272329
No, you're the idiot. People have been talking about tablets and phones for emulation for fucking years now.
The Nvidia Shield Tablet is one of the hottest devices for portable emulation, and it's certainly capable of running advanced shaders in RetroArch.

>>3270896
Wait, so DPI is more important than resolution when it comes to shaders?

>>3273131
They are closely related. In this case the system being emulated has a small screen with low dpi. if you want to emulate the screen on the same or similar size, only dpi helps you (which happens to increase the resolution of the display).
What matters is how many emulating-device pixels map to emulated-device pixels. The more, the better.
If you increase resolution without increasing dpi, the emulated screen becomes bigger and bigger. If you increase dpi without increasing resolution, the emulating screen becomes smaller and smaller

>>3273123
Dude. You're arguing with a fool who cares more about shaders than game play and thinks 4k TVs are rare. You'd have better luck playing chess with a dead goldfish.

>>3270508
Right is a dump of the game running on code based on documentation of the GBC's specs. It's a proxy.

Right might have some problems here and there with the hardware it's trying to replicate but those issues get weeded out over time.

Right has support for buttons. They're optional, but the option is still available.

What is the easiest way to do portable emulation with decent controls?

>>3225276
2 words

non-integer. scaling.
you use small portions of the screen or have a horrible time.

>>3230267
>Jesus Christ playing on a 3 inch screen with no backlight was terrible

So? If it gets the job done, who fucking cares?

If the answer is "Me", I implore you to get an emulator and never look back, as I'm sure you already have. You make sitting by a window sound so inconvenient, anon.

>>3231849
Compared to what we have now, yeah. As you read, I don't actually care.

Cool opinion though

So, just curious, why are you all so self-conscious about what you play your games with? Seems like a waste of time.

>>3230267
>managing to play for a couple of hours before the batteries run out
20 hours

>>3274404
Bilinear filtering doesn't look bad at low resolutions - even if it is hiding artifacting or whatever.

>>3274404
unplayable...

>>3228375
Get some magic shrooms. Took them once and got over my chocolate, weed and opiates addiction in a few weeks.

>>3270508
>The left is less likely to have issues, the right probably has issues and glitches, and inaccuracies

Can this meme please die?

>>3224794
I would agree with you if the topic was about handheld emulation . But for actual consoles nothing beats using the real hardware . If your not poor and have a decent job it shouldn't be a problem. Its like arguing books vs using a kindle. It has the same content but not the feel.

>>3274632
Kindle is better.

>>3274639
Why? Because you cant be bothered to carry around a paper back book but instead can carry around a big rectangle .

>>3274652
Considering how much more text an e-reader can store it makes a big difference.
You also get a build in dictionary, backlight, ways to customize the font etc.
Not a fan of the Kindle due to the Amazon stuff but epub readers are great.

>>3274652
More like, I'd rather carry around a plethora of books in a sleek rectangle than carry a bunch of large, heavy books in a fucking potato sack.

>>3274670
And some people like holding the first printing, or don't want to pick through a hundred books.

Hey, that's a pretty good metaphor, actually

>>3274652
>Kindle
>big rectangle
When you grow up a bit an no longer have little girl hands maybe mommy will let you hold her Kindle.

>>3274695
And some people like gay midget porn. Many people have weird fetishes.

>>3274991
Yes, and they like it. What's your point, that you're a bigot?

>>3274632
No one cares about your feelings sjw.

>>3275012
>watch how edgy i can be
>just comes off as a tool

>>3275365
>Egy mem

No, I literally mean you're intolerant of other people's opinions, and it's extremely pathetic. These threads are equally so.

Nice sidestepping. Not.

This may sound weird, but I gotta play my sega genesis on the actual console......and its hooked up to an hdtv, so I cant eve use the CRT excuse. But I still just like getting games whenever im at a flea market, and streets of rage 3 has been fun.

Now say the NES, Snes and other systems, yes I prefer emulation and not tempted to but those systems because then thats a whole nother system Id have to collect for. plus genesis is my childhood system (well also n64 too for my teenage years).

Also handheld is a mixed bag, if I can get a gameboy game on the cheap sure why not, I love playin my sp on the toilet lol.

>>3275513
>intolerant
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Tolerating someones gay midget fetish doesn't mean joining in a 3 way, or even approving. It means tolerating. Look it up while your fucking off back to whatever sjw faggot board you stumbled in here from.
We all tip our fedoras to your superior unpatheticness on your way out.

>>3275859
>I do not think it means what you think it means.

You think wrong. Which surprises nobody.

You wanna see intolerance? Go away, you bigoted ignoramus.

>>3275970
How is he being intolerant, you fucking moron? He's not attempting to censor your opinion.

>>3275513
>Nice sidestepping. Not.

gb2leddit

>>3275970
Well if you can read that definition and believe I'm not tolerating it then, well, you can't read.

>>3276014
Criticism would be a form of interference, no? Actively criticising an opinion or preference in an attempt to change it?

It's not censorship, but it is incredibly rude, and accomplishes nothing.

>>3276221
>Nuh uh

Nice job demonstrating your understanding

>>3276686
>no?
no

>>3276691
Bigot.

>>3276686
>Criticism would be a form of interference, no?
What
Where do you think you are. Why would you even come here if you don't want to sling shit and arguments around. What do you honestly want from 4chinks, someone praising you for your hot opinions?

>hey I like x
>wow thumbs up great opinnion this anon is amazing

The only response you're going to get here is criticism, if people agree with you, you won't get a single response (generally), and you'll never know if your lack of response is apathy or agreement. At best you'll get a favorable reply if you make people laugh or provide some actual content.

I don't even know what the hell you homos are talking about but that's some bizarre way of looking at Anonymous online interactions. People are not criticizing *YOU*, there is no *YOU* here, people are engaging solely with your ideas. No need to be so buttblasted about dissent, there is to identity here to attack, you aren't being silenced and if you feel that criticizing your ideas triggers your cognitive dissonance, at least consider that may be a little bit of merit to whatever the dicks the other person is saying.

Think of it this way, it's not that 4chink is full of contrarians, but more often than not, only someone who disagrees with you will engage with you. If we both agree there is nothing to say.

R E T R O G A M E S

>>3276686
>>3276728
>Criticism is the practice of judging the merits and faults of something
>the merits

>Criticism as an evaluative or corrective exercise
>evaluative

>To criticize does not necessarily imply "to find fault"
>Fighting is not necessarily involved

>>3276728
> What do you honestly want from 4chinks,

I just wanted a nice place to post. I want proper discourse, which appears to be a way of the past now. Now you can just dismiss arguments with "no". Are you fucking kidding me?

I WANT to be wrong, and you're all throwing around these fucking AWFUL arguments and bullshit ad hominem. Why even bother?

>people are engaging solely with your ideas
>engaging

Ha!

>you aren't being silenced

Never said that. You all realise that the only reason we've disagreed so far is because you, or whomever, doesn't understand what the question is? This is the best argument I can get around here, and it's really sad.

>at least consider thar may be a little bit of merit to whatever the dicks the other person is saying.

I would if it's relevant, but If I don't consider it as such, I'll attempt to explain why. Too bad it's typically met with "no".

>only someone who disagrees with you will engage with you. If we both agree there is nothing to say.

I realise that, however there are cases where people can misunderstand the point of your argument, and will debate on a slightly different topic, further shitting up the thread.

>>3276764
>Fighting is not necessarily involved

Well

>>3276782
>Now you can just dismiss arguments with "no"
your statement was wrong, end of story. Look up criticism if you have to, or re-read >>3276764, especially the >evaluative bit

>Are you fucking kidding me?
back to you. If you treat criticism as a form of (personal) attack, then you're not interested in discourse

>will debate on a slightly different topic, further shitting up the thread
looked at yourself lately? The thread subject is way over there, and you're here having a pissing match with the wind because someone had the audacity to disagree with someone else and state it politely

>>3276782
>which appears to be a way of the past now
No, 4chan has always been this way. You reek of Reddit and should probably go back there.

>>3276794
>end of story.

Not end of story. Honest criticism is fine, as it leads to proper discourse, but this thread explicitly states two audiences with preferences. On 4chan.
>emulation
>original hardware?

These threads aren't even criticism. You don't evaluate a preference.

> If you treat criticism as a form of (personal) attack

That was an exclamation of incredulity. Are you implying that "no" is criticism now?

>The thread subject is way over there,

This thread topic is cancerous bullshit and you should kill yourself.

>>3276797
You reek of '10, go post a chemo thread on /b/ ya crybaby

>>3276817
Fuck off. I'm not giving you any r/4chan material.

>>3276817
>Are you implying that "no" is criticism now?
No (see what I did there?). I'm implying, no, saying, that your statement was simply wrong. You tried to present a fact (criticism is a corrective measure), and I called that statement wrong. You can look up the definition, or pout. Your call.

>These threads aren't even criticism
OP is clickbait, like almost every OP on 4chan. It's one of the few ways to actually get a thread started, as everybody, including you, is jaded all the way to 11, and will simply skip over any moderate or even friendly post. Among the massive polar shitposting from both sides you can occasionally see a statement or two resembling a discourse.
If you're actively engaging OP you only have yourself to blame. If you consider the post bad and against the rules (shitposting or trolling, you decide), report it and hide it. If you consider it a useful hook for an actual exchange, bring on that exchange, by actually having thoughful posts. Hint: thoughtful posts do not use words like "kill yourself" or "crybaby" except in quotes

>This thread topic is cancerous bullshit and you should kill yourself.
That does not sound like criticism to me. More like
>it is incredibly rude, and accomplishes nothing

>>3276817
Anon, not the other guy, but 4chan really was always like this.

Call it disingenuous arguments, trollbaiting, misunderstandings, playing the devil's advocate or hyperbole, but inflamatory discussion is at the heart of 4chan.

You may not like it but it's honestly the only remaining theme that consistently persists throughout the ever changing history of this place.

This isn't debate club, you may try to swim against the tide but having a nice discussion on 4chan is a continuous pursuit, it's like finding a rose in the desert.

I like this place because it's unfiltered, sometimes brilliant but most often than not is full of shitheads. And life is full of shitheads, it's good practice, but mostly just a waste a time.

I don't want to preach all high and mighty, but I recommend you to use this place for what it is and not what you want it to be.

>>3276829
It's really funny, you're so paranoid about imaginary internet espionage that you're unwilling to have a normal conversation at the risk of looking like an idiot, even though you're anonymous. What a shame.

>>3276835
>simply wrong

You were implying "no"?

>criticism is a corrective measure

So, you misunderstood me. Okay, I'll rephrase it to more fit the context of this specific thread.

This thread is hiding under the guise of proper criticism. When OP says "When it comes to retro consoles", as you said, he's attracting the attention of everyone on the board. He then splits the active audience down the middle by turning it into another hardware vs. software thread, thinking that one party can somehow convince the other of changing their preference, which they won't, and as such we have an endless thread involving the bickering of semantics instead of actual video games.

See what I didn't say? I never said anything about "correcting" anyone. There is no "correct". We're talking about preferences.

>It's one of the few ways to actually get a thread started, as everybody, including you, is jaded all the way to 11, and will simply skip over any moderate or even friendly post.

You are not me. You're the one admitting you genuinely can't engage in normal conversation, and need your threads to be tailor made so everyone has a premade opinion which you can derisively regurgitate. Gd4u.

It's not like the website's going to disappear if the board's slow. Slow is good. Think about your arguments.

>report it and hide it.

I would, but there's still people that think this is genuine conversation. I want to talk to these people, and tell them it isn't. Because until then, I'm going to keep seeing these idiotic threads, and you're all going to have the same arguments until you're blue in the face. It's a waste of time and bandwidth.

>That does not sound like criticism to me.

Pic

>>3276849
>inflammatory discussion is at the heart of 4chan.

I'd like to have a constructive inflammatory discussion on 4chan. Not this vapid played out bullshit.

>You may not like it but it's honestly the only remaining theme that consistently persists throughout the ever changing history of this place.

And it's why it will always get worse.

>but I recommend you to use this place for what it is and not what you want it to be.

Nah. I'll openly criticize entire topics if it gets people to consider how they're spending their time, and hopefully have them spend it more constructively. It usually doesn't though, which is funny too.

>>3276879
Just FYI
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Ren%C3%A9_Descartes#Second_weird_pseudo-quote

>>3276870
>When OP says
OP is shitposting clickbait, (almost) always. Run with the theme, or ignore the thread. Do not engage OP.

>involving the bickering of semantics instead of actual video games
look at your very own posts, dammit

>I never said anything about "correcting" anyone
Ok, once more with feeling, read >>3276764, especially where it says >evaluative. That is not a specification of corrective, it's an alternative. One that applies here.

>You're the one admitting you genuinely can't engage in normal conversation, and need your threads to be tailor made so everyone has a premade opinion which you can derisively regurgitate
Now you're plain shitposting. You've made up your mind about people and try the hardest to make them fit with your misguided ideas.

>It's not like the website's going to disappear if the board's slow
I said nothing about the board going slow. I said page 11 and meant page 11. I had multiple threads, prepared with a useful pic, and a bit of text to get a discussion going. They disappeared, because the topics were too wordy and nuanced for people. I keep making these topics, because I like them. You, and many others, will ignore them, because they're too wordy and can't be bothered.

>Think about your arguments
They're fine. It would be easier if you too, would think about them, before responding. That whole paragraph was pure dismissive strawman, because apparently thinking, and actually having an exchange, is hard.

>>3276870
>I would
please do. You are not welcome

>there's still people that think this is genuine conversation
and once it's hidden you don't have to read them any longer. Better even, once it's hidden, you can't shit them up any longer.

>I want to talk to these people
not with your perpetually insulting and superficially reading attitude, you don't. You want to look down on people, mock them for having an exchange in a thread unfit for it.

>I'm going to keep seeing these idiotic threads
use your filters. "superior" is a pretty surefire polarizing word. You won't miss many threads with it.

>Pic
Nobody's laughing. If others posting nearby are an indication, they're rather upset with you, not the thread.
>Think about your arguments

>>3276879
>if
it doesn't. It riles people up against you, because, while they're salvaging the board, having actual exchanges, even if OP is shit, you're jumping all over them, complaining that they're having the wrong fun. You're the bigger problem of the two.

>spend it more constructively
the irony is strong with this one

>It usually doesn't though, which is funny too.
the one common factor is you, not them. Might want to address that

>>3274517
this looks beautiful.

>>3276915
y-you too..

>>3276891
Thanks for the clarification, I didn't have that downloaded on my computer anyway. It was more just for the quote, I couldn't care less about the guy that said it.

>Do not engage OP.

I don't; I engage you.

>look at your very own posts, dammit

Yes, ironic, no?

>it's an alternative

Of which has two opposite parties on 4chan which are feuded against each other through the guise of defining which is of better quality or value; you're trying to evaluate PREFERENCE.

>You've made up your mind about people

Specific people that post in these threads unironically. Or ironically, for that matter. It's a waste of time and bandwidth.

>They disappeared, because the topics were too wordy and nuanced for people.

Did you ever consider that it's because it's due to a slew of shitposting idiots? I guarantee they'd see replies on a slower, less terrible board. I feel for that, though.

>They're fine.

Don't get all defensive, I was referring to us as an anonymous collective, "your" being the person reading this thread right now.

>>3276895
>You are not welcome

In an awful thread arguing over opinions and preferences? Great, I don't care.

>and once it's hidden you don't have to read them any longer.

You're still going to post here though. Taking up space with your idiocy.

I can't "shit up" shit.

>You want to[]mock them for having an exchange in a thread

Meaningless exchange on a meaningless thread.

>use your filters

>If I hide it, surely it will go away!

>Nobody's laughing.

Well, ridicule isn't a laughing matter. That's very observant of you.

>>3276910
>complaining that they're having the wrong fun

Are you truly having fun? Do you actually believe that?

>the irony is strong with this one

Yup, I'm right there with you.

>the one common factor is you, not them

So? It's not like you're on this thread because you're genuinely concerned about each other's choices. You just want to gloat about what yours are.

That is all these threads ever accomplish.

To >>3276892
From >>3276940 (me)

>>3276940
It's even Voltaire in the picture you know. The whole joke about that thing is that you can give credence to anything if you put it in the mouth of some respected historical figure.

just like I remember it

>>3276949
The good old days when my gameboy screen was made of legos

>>3276949
That's not bad, actually. Best LCD filter I've seen for the GBC yet.

>>3276947
I know. It's not about credence, I just wanted the quote. Like I said, I don't have it downloaded because I'm aware of that joke. I figured it was misquoted, but I just wanted the quote. Not who said it.

>>3260607
>There's no in-between my friend.
Technically the in-between is something like everdrive.

Or the retard choice which is using something like the retrode, the worst of both worlds.

>>3276965
Holy shit that is literally the most retarded thing. A shitty hardware emulator that puts wear on your cartridges for absolutely no reason.

>>3276973
It's not even an emulator, it just dumps the ROMs to the computer as far as I know, then what you do with the ROM file is up to you to you, pick your favorite emulator.

I mean it literally combines the worst aspects of the hardware vs software paradigm and mixes them into one.

The emulator stops being quick and handy because you have to dump a rom now in order to play, and the mystique of that nostalgiafag feeling of having an original cartridge and playing it on the original hardware is gone as well.

I like to think nobody buys this shit, but who the fuck knows.

>>3276978
Itd be useful for roms that have never. Bvghnv chin , hello hello football

>>3277006
RIP Anon, 2003 - 2016

>>3276973
>>3276978
>a device designed to let you dump ROMs, backup saves from/to carts, and use original controllers on your PC is retarded
Who's retarded?

>>3277343
The only marketable aspect is the controller converter, which there are hundreds of

>backup saves

I can't imagine why you'd ever need to. It's not like the battery-save carts are at any risk of dying. Those CR2032 batteries last a long time, so you're not at any risk of them dying if the battery's been replaced.

And it wears on the cart, too. Why not just play it on the console/emulate?

>>3276965
>>3276973
>>3276978


It is very useful for eaaily dumping prototypes, though compatability is a bit spotty.

>>3277370

>t. dumbass

Go look up the lifetime expectancy of a CR2032 even in OPEN CIRCUIT

Now think about how old those first save-ram games are. You may need to use a calculator to figure this out because you're dumb as fuck.

>caring about saves

I routinely delete old saves and replay through games, but maybe some dude has a dead brother or just happy times naming characters "FUK" with his best friend.

>>3250587
I can't get SNES to run well on PSP. o3DS makes a great gameboy machine.

>>3277402
If you have bank to buy prototypes, you probably already have the devices to dump them.

If you don't have them though, great, they've effectively advertised to a handful of people.

>>3277428
>Go look up the lifetime expectancy of a CR2032

>Lifetime expectancy

>for a battery

They last like 5-10 years on a cartridge. Attach a 25 cent battery clip instead of a hard-wired battery and you've effectively ensured your saves to be incorruptible for the duration of your play time.

You make it sound like it's as bad a battery drain as the Game Gear.

>maybe some dude has a dead brother

Well, enjoy their save while you still can, cos it's all going to be dust eventually.

Memories > Memorabilia

>>3276940
Please don't double space each line. God damn, you can't even fit that post on a 1920x1080 screen.

>>3277567
And that matters how?.

>>3277489

As far as I know, the Retrode is one of the most accessible ways to dump SNES and Genesis prototypes, regardless of age. It uses USB and works with modern OSs. While I admit it is spotty in terms of compatibility, I have used it to dump several GameBoy, SFC, and MD/Genesis prototypes.

That being said, yes, that is a very limited market and no, I don't see much of a point in dumping retail carts these days unless you were wanting to verify the ROMs already out there like byuu did.

>>3225543
That's the biggest load of shit. There's no way emulation comes close to analog components plus most are inaccurate and based off of old code. Even for snes the only accurate one is bsnes. Most often frame rate skip is apparent and anything that requires audio timing is always off. Older consoles were tide to refresh rates when you start to overclock they break

>>3277842
Accessible, perhaps, but my point still stands. No reason not to download a fullset.

I'd rather get a controller converter.

>>3277370
Top kek kid. There's people bitching about battery saves on almost a daily basis. Exactly how new are you?

You can't imagine anyone would want to get their old save off a cart because you don't have any. People who started on real hardware years ago do. People like you who started on an emulator last summer don't.

>>3278082
>There's people bitching about battery saves on almost a daily basis.

They should install battery clips, too.

>because you don't have any

Except I do, and I did as well. I've had saves die on me before. Because it's happened to pretty much everyone.

Baseless assertions get you nowhere.

>>3278107
>Baseless assertions
Dank maymay kid. You said:
>It's not like the battery-save carts are at any risk of dying
Then when caught out being inexperienced you back peddle with:
>I've had saves die on me before. Because it's happened to pretty much everyone.
So you were either bullshitting before or bullshitting now. Whatever the case you're a proven bullshitter and we can now ignore you. Do I need to tell you what single letter board to fuck off back to or do you at least know that much?

>>3278314
>It's not like the battery-save carts are at any risk of dying

And then I clarified, for this exact reason, "so you're not at any risk of them dying if the battery's been replaced". Way to ignore the point.

>So you were either bullshitting before or bullshitting now

No, you're just failed to understand my point. You basically implied that I said "batteries don't die", which as we all know isn't true. What I ACTUALLY said was more along the lines of "if your cart is maintained, your saves are safe for at the very least 5 years, which is more than enough time to play the whole game".

Anon, baseless assertions get you nowhere.

I owned one console in my life, the Mega Drive, it broke down after a few days and I never repaired it.
Been playing PC and emulating ever since. I only plan to own shit with bad compatibility.
I respect collectors and CRTfags but I don't give a crap about authenticity if the game plays at the correct framerate and doesn't have shitty filters,

>>3226543
>ill-faded

>>3278816
>And then I clarified by saying more bullshit.
The batteries will die sport. Replaced or not they will die. This is 100% guaranteed.

>>3278816
>baseless assertions
Repeating the meme doesn't make you look more right it makes you look more underage.

>>3228359
>>3230238
>being a fucking drunk
You deserved what you got.

>>3279416
>calling people "sport" unironically

>>3279416
>Missing the point this badly

Do you not know what a battery clip is or something?

>Repeating the meme

Okay, let me make this perfectly clear:

When you replace a battery on a cart, you should install a battery clip, to allow for easy replacement.

If you can't be bothered to beat the game in that time frame, take up emulation.

>>3279591
>Let me back peddle some more and add shit I never said to look less the fool.
Too late sport. The damage is done.

>>3279858
read
>>3277489
Note how it's before you ever started replying

Read the thread next time ya fuckface

>>3280486
>piece together everything i ever wrote. cherry pick the good pretend the bad never happened.

>>3280502
How about reading the thread next time before attempting to bring up meaningless attacks?

You misunderstood me, that's your problem not mine. That reply is just another way of saying "I know you're right, but I still hate you so I'm going to ignore fact and antagonise you to make myself feel less stupid". Except you're still incredibly stupid, and you should go away before you embarrass yourself further.

>>3280516
I understood exactly what you said. You just didn't say what you meant. That's your problem not mine. What you may have said earlier doesn't change the fact that what you said in that post is retarded. Of course being an autist you can't accept that.

>>3281386
I don't think you did. I said exactly what I meant, only you interpreted it differently.

"What you may have said earlier doesn't change the fact that-"

It does actually, considering the original point should be taken into consideration before making a counter argument.

B-b-bye.

>>3224794
Playing on the original hardware is like switching to easy mode. Never had a modern emulator that doesn't have at least a little bit of input lag.

Might go so far as to say that I've never seen any emulator that was superior to playing original hardware.

>>3281549
Typical of a self important autist insisting that everyone read everything he ever wrote before replying to one post.

>B-b-bye
Thank god. This thread can now resume normal operation.

bump

>>3284241
thistbh

>>3224794
ofc

>>3285786
Why not play DX in color?

>>3285789
Because the color is shit that ruins the game's aesthetics

>>3224794

Up to the SNES/Mega Drive, yes. Maybe even playstation as well. But at that point and onward some games can be glitchy especially when you mess with graphics.

>>3287079
simple solution, don't mess with graphics

>>3225260
>Nobody has a watch anymore

I used to think this as well, then I grew up and realized most working adults have a watch. Also people who wear watches are much more professional than people without them from what I've observed.

>>3287129
I have several watches and wear one pretty much every day. So does everyone I know who's not underage.

>>3287365
why?

>emushitters also prefer kindles to real books

Uncultured swine, the lot of you

>>3287380
Can check the time quickly without pulling out my phone
Can buy things quickly without pulling out my wallet/phone
Better depth rating and more convenient to use in water than my phone

>>3288083
>Can check the time quickly without pulling out my phone
where are you that you constantly need to know the time? And why do all the other clocks nearby not work?

>Can buy things quickly without pulling out my wallet/phone
sounds like one of these modern cell phone attachments, not a watch

>Better depth rating and more convenient to use in water than my phone
most normal people aren't underwater all the time

>>3288658
On the pitch, for one
Nope, had it log before the shit you know of
I'm not black. I swim.

Try harder young contrarian

>>3289721
>On the pitch, for one
Sounds like a case for a stopwatch, not to tell the time.

>had it log before
How do you "buy" with that thing then?

>I swim
and you need the current time for that why? If you're competitive a stopwatch will do just fine