/vr/ - Retro Games

The same snot nosed 90s kids who almost killed pinball playing Mortal Kombat and consoles, are now helping it make a comeback. So ironic and joyful hah

>>3196478
Snot nosed 90s kid(87) who played MK here. I think you mean 80s kid who killed pinball. I(or people my age) barely had any money to spend on gaming let alone any arcades to spend it at.

>>3196478
where's the hostility coming from?

>>3196478
people that couldn't afford it in their childhood want their childhood back? Stop the fucking presses. Oh, and of course these kids are so much worse than you, you responsible grownup you. Born with a tie and a briefcase, I bet.

>>3196549
>>3196546
That's my post I'm one of those kids, I wasn't being a dick just making an observation and discussing. I think it's awesome, I wish I had discovered pinball much earlier in life

what feature on modern machines do you really dislike? What's something machines introduced that, in your opinion, just shouldn't exist?

What do you guys think about software pinball?

>>3196760

>>3196770
Not always.
Digital Pinball Last Gladiators was so realistic that they could build one of the tables as a real machine and the game played identical to it.

>>3196795

Interesting, I'll definitely check it out.

>>3196760
I've been playing the fake pinball version of a machine (Black Rose) I have in my basement but don't know how to repair. It's been sitting down there for years, so it'd probably need a decent bit of work... I've also been trying some of the other fake pinball recreations included in the pirated download, but from either nostalgia or its simplicity I just like Black Rose best. The best way to get points (sinking a ton of ships) is also satisfying as hell, and is only more satisfying on a real machine thanks to the cannon.

Anyone else played it? It's pretty underrated, in my opinion...

>>3196478
MK II gave hints about a certain Midway / Williams pin. Hold the flippers

>>3196747
What game is that on the end with the big ol' topper?

Got 2 billion (on ps4) in Judge Dredd

Slowly getting better. Its so much fun. But there's a lane that you literally can't even see and its hard as FUCK to hit. And you end up needing it to get extra balls so its a bitch. Trying to figure out how to hit it properly.

>>3197060
I believe that's Fish Tales

Why is Dracula so amazing?

>>3196747
>tfw no dedicated arcades, just bars with machines
fug

>>3196818
>Interesting, I'll definitely check it out.

Do note that there are two versions of the game, the initial release, and a 97 revision. The latter has more realistic physics, which also makes the game significantly harder.

There's also its sequel, Digital Pinball Necronomicon, which is easily the best pinball game on any console ever.

>>3197187
I'm really lucky man Colorado has a HUGE pinball scene, there are actually Barcades around like that pic which rock, and then pins scattered across bars all over, some in concentrated pockets where an individual owner renta his machines out and takes super good care of them

>>3197061
Backhand it with the right main or right upper flipper.

>>3197187
>>3197216
Saw a bar fight on Worldstar where people were getting thrown all over a The Walking Dead.

>>3197345
Well at least it wasn't some oldschool Williams or Data East

>>3196747
>an arcade with a ghost busters pro 2 1/2 hours from me
>a little less than 3 months till i can go to a barcade 2 hours away from me for great pin action
goddamn the wait is killing me but their selection is going worth it if what the pinmap says is true

have any LA bros, been to the EightyTwo barcade recently and can verify if theres been any changes in the line up?
https://pinside.com/pinball/map/where-to-play/eightytwo-los-angeles-ca-united-states

>>3197848
Hell yah man it will be here soon enough, Barcades are alot of fun

>>3197179
that orgasmic noise when you light up all three lanes

>you put pinball circus out of order for the day
ps fuck you pinbo the elephant, your flipper is weak shit

>can count the number of tables in my country on one hand
>one of them is even broken

>>3198417
you're not one of these six-fingered freaks, are you?

>>3196753
cheap plastic toys

>>3198452
toys in general, or would you prefer a different material or quality?

>>3196753
The big lcd screen on wizard of oz weirded me out
DMDs are perfectly fine for pinball, no reason to change it.

>>3198623
I got to agree with you there. Sure, a color LCD can do more, and better, but displaying stuff is not what pinball is about. The display should be just good enough to display information, without distracting. The old DMDs did a good job at that. Also, they're kind of iconic nowadays.
I'd like to go one step further and expand it to all LCDisplays on modern machines. Using physical tricks and gimmicks is so much cooler than playing back a random video

>>3196354
Has there been a pinball machine based on pinball machines?

>>3198680
Does this count?

>>3198680
How about silverball mania?

1/2

>>3198691
2/2

in the last thread I wondered, do modern machines even have pins any longer? Some have center pins between the flippers, but beyond that? Kind of odd for the machines to still be called pinball, when it's one of the features that almost completely disappeared

>>3198701
Mos of them don't the only ones i can think of that still have them are The wizard of Oz, and maybe woah nellie big juicy melons,
although im probably missing some since i don't pay attention to clear attention to every single stern and smaller pinball machine producing company

>>3197189

>There's also its sequel, Digital Pinball Necronomicon, which is easily the best pinball game on any console ever.

Also, it has one of the raddest fucking soundtracks to any pinball ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnqbPjSZEIU&index=14&list=PLjy4IKq36VaFv5eSEtmf2XWDc35YBi9Iu

Personally, I'd still say that Vince Pontarelli's guitars rock harder than this, but this is still excellent.

>>3198680
The Pinbot games I suppose

>>3198212
>not simultaneously achieving all three multiballs for 30,000,000 jackpots

>>3199401
Pinbot is about man achieving singularity with machine and the Voyager space program.

Almost done with the underside work, 1 more pop bumper to rebuild.

>>3200932
>Whirlwind and Twilight Zone
Fucking nice. What else you got?

Where there ever any James Bond pinball tables?

Does there exist a company that suffered as much of a humiliating decline as Gottlieb? They manufactured hundreds of copy-paste EM machines, then got undeniably left in the dust as pinball got more advanced. They continued to churn out forgettable schlock while the likes of Bally/Williams were revolutionizing the industry. I'd say even Data East managed to put out more enjoyable table in their short run than Gottlieb ever could.

>>3201113
Goldeneye is the only one I know of.

>>3201113
>>3201132
There was an old Gottlieb from the Roger Moore era as well.

Last thread's OP here, here's another location near me. Games are:
>Sopranos
>Metallica
>Surfin' Safari
>Nascar
>Joker Poker (!!!)
>Cue Ball Wizard
>Mousin' Around

>>3201146
Decent selection there. Cue Ball Wizard is pretty terrible though.

>>3201178
QUIT TALKIN' AND START CHALKIN'

>>3201252
They fucking stole that from Eight Ball Deluxe.

>>3201252
>>3201257
Does Cue Ball Wizard actually say that? All I hear when I play it is, "You sure need that ramp shot" over and over again.

>>3200957
Doctor Who, Guns N Roses, Whitewater, Earthshaker, Roadshow, Gilligans, Jurassic Park, Funhouse, Midway Deluxe Shooting Gallery, Williams Double Play, and a 56 United Bowling Alley

Just dropped Ghostbusters off today

>>3201680
private or operator?

what's the price for a game on a modern machine?

>>3201728
Still .50 standard all over here, some places that have 1 or two new Stern's try to charge a $1, but the true pinball places still only .50 or even .25 if an EM

>>3201726
Private. Started collecting 13 years ago when games were a lot cheaper, and inherited 2 (shooting gallery and the Double Play).

>>3201929
do you let people play on them? Do you charge, or do you consider it the price of doing this hobby? Also, I envy you

>>3201121

Late Gottlieb/Premier is a thing of fucking beauty - if you love train wrecks, that is. Makes me wonder what would have happened if some of those themes they got went to Bally/Williams/Midway instead. Just imagine if the design that ended up being Addams Family ended up being a Super Mario Bros. pinball instead.

Though I do fucking love me some Big Hurt, so maybe I've just got brain damage. I think liking late Gottliebs is a symptom of that.

>>3201132
Awesome, that movie was the shit.

>>3201142
Neat, what movie was it based on?

>>3201960
I was playing alot of Skydive today. I have a weird love for the old EM pins, but we also have a Street Fghter 2 near me, and you can just tell how far behind Gotlieb was compared to similar pins near that year like T2 and Adams Family

All I want is a judge dredd table of my own.

However I know once I get one I will end up getting more so I avoid it all together.

Thank goodness for pinball arcade, it gets me by.

>>3201441
It says that both when you start a new game and if you don't shoot the ball.

>>3201121
Gottlieb certainly has its place in history for pioneering the electro-mechanical flipper, but it is sad how ignored they became later on because of more quality companies.

Plus some of my favorite pinball tracks come from Gottlieb games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uU8Glyy4eQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBSwzJheylQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcixy7jHjE0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqofTKxnu_8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUFLBEFaB78

>>3201938
Have people over all the time. My son (who is 15mo old) LOVES to sit on the glass while I play. Doctor Who is his current favorite. Games are always free!

Did anybody figure out the next Pinball Arcade table? My guess is Stargate by Gottlieb.

>>3197086
>>3197179
Is this by any chance the Super arcade on North Grand Avenue,Walnut, CA?

>>3202098

It's TX-Sector, apparently.

>>3202136
Nope this is 3 Kings Tavern, an awesome dive bar/venue in Denver

>>3202136
Isn't Super Arcade still closed?

>>3202328
I have no idea I was just checking the pin map for places to play nearby and i saw that place had a lot of the games that the Super Arcade had lined up next to each other in the pictures,

and i was wondering if that was super arcade because the entry was outdated by two years and i've been wanting to play a twilight zone again for a couple months, and junkyard and iron man are on my pins to play list. and i wanted to check before i wasted 2 hours driving up there.

>>3196760
meh it's ok

>>3196354
So the translite for spooky pinball's Domino pin was revealed a few months and prototype itself is going to be revealed and playable next month in vegas.
What are your guys thought on this
I'm surprised spooky was actually allowed to put the noid on there.
also apparently they are making are more "edgy" translite anybody here have any guesses on what it could be?
anybody play get to play Rob Zombies spookshow yet?

>>3202575
>Domino's Pizza pinball

Pfft. I haven't heard of this one. I hope the Noid's a bash target like in South Park or ToTAN.

>>3202536
Yeah, don't go. Super Arcade closed to move into a new location, but the city council is doing everything they can to keep it from re-opening. I think the owner has been fighting for well over a year now.

>>3202575
I welcome the Dominos pinball haha, it's so odd, yet so right. I'm glad to see them step forward to license to a pinball company in 2016, I just wish you could win free pizzas instead of replays. I plan on playing the Rob Zombie pin next month at the pinball expo

>>3202746
>the city council is doing everything they can to keep it from re-opening
why? I mean, at a first glance, an arcade sounds like a pretty good business to have in town nowadays. Do the old folks at the council think it's gambling or something?

>>3203206
http://superdojo.blogspot.com/
basically they had to jump thru a bunch of hoops and they still want him to jump thru some more

>>3203209
>a permit for "arcades" is no longer being issued
Why is the council that retarded?

>>3203209
that process sounds expensive as fuck. It's saddening. You got a dude there that has what's needed to get started right away, with a business that's very likely to work out really well, so naturally you stall them, eat into their finances while they can not generate any revenue, and I bet in the end, shrug when "for some reason" another small business fails. I don't wish that happening to this guy in particular, but the tendency is hard to miss, and it's maddening

Hey guys, I'm looking to buy a pinball machine. I don't play a whole ton of pinball, but what would you get if you wanted people to think you had good taste in pinball?

>>3203229
centaur

>>3203231
looks pretty cool actually

>>3203229
>what would you get if you wanted people to think you had good taste in pinball?
a brain. Buying something as expensive and high maintenance as a pinball to impress others is stupid as fuck

>>3203229
Addams Family or Twilight Zone

>>3203250
>a brain

>[...] one addition is that the game will randomly go into a "seizure" where everything locks up for around 15 seconds. A display effect was added for that occurrence, and a "special game over ... that tells you to let the next person in line play."

>>3202098
Dr Who

>>3196354
>We actually hit the bump limit Edition
missed opportunity for a "Bumpers held" title

>>3202575
Holy shit the Noid is on there? What if this causes more mass murder sprees?

>>3202746
Who's on the council, fucking LaGuardia?

>>3203209
Fucking gov't, lotta good that's done for the people.

>>3203229
>buying pinball to impress other people with your taste
that a very poor decision anon, you should be buying a machine you like and not what anyone else wants because you'l be stuck with a machine you don't want

although to actually answer your question
to me showing you have good taste is less so having one Pinball machine it's more having a collection that shows your taste
me personally I would collect machines from different eras by different designers that i enjoy to show off my "taste"

for games that are easy for non pinheads to learn scared stiff, Fishtales, Funhouse, and maybe roadshow also if the themes are more light hearted and humorous it helps them enjoy it

>>3203262
what a rude machine

>>3196354
AC/DC:

>shoot left loop
Ball screams straight down the middle on return
>shoot bell
Ball screams straight down the middle as it plummets back
>ball hits slingshots
Straight into the outlanes
>ball hits anywhere else
Straight into the outlanes

Best machine ever, two ramp shots you can make that don't result in ball loss.

>>3204973
GIT GUD

What's /vr's verdict on Banzai Run? It's one I've never seen in the wild but would love to try out.

>>3206201
I played it at a big arcade show in January. It's pretty great, although playing on the vertical field is tough because of how steep it is. Also, the music is GOAT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxSK7Z95ZiY

>>3202575
>>3202702
Domino's is allowed to use The Noid again? Did that guy who got butthurt and held a Domino's hostage over it finally die?

>>3203229
This is the fucking definition of a hipster.

>>3206207
Good to hear! The table just looks so rad I really want to play it. Found the ball lock music also while listening to the main theme you posted.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hrxa9LaRmng

>>3206207
Different guy here, but I'm going to a pinball expo in June I can't fucking wait to play some machines I haven't seen in the real world yet

A pinball arcade opened up within walking distance a few weeks ago. Made me realize I suck at pinball.

How do I get good?

>>3206620
practice

>>3206620
This >>3206624 mostly but also ball control is a biggie. Try and calm the ball if you can.

I want to make a huge pinball table where everything is massive.

>inb4 Hercules
No, bigger, the ball needs to be big like a basketball, you'd need like six service midgets who live in the machine, only by their combined strength can they cock the giant springloaded plunger.
Sure they'll go deaf, but that's the work hazard you sign up for.

>>3206679
Sounds like Pinboing.

Chased down a few Data Easts today on pinball locator. Unfortunately Last Action is down and Batman had quite a few issues, but was really enjoyable regardless.

>>3206907
Fucking 2000AD

>>3196354
Would any of you guys happen to know where i could get wood for making a playfield and an estimate of how much it would cost
for something like a 20.50" x 42.00" and 1/2 an inch thick piece of wood.

And or a webpage of with pre done drawing files or something for designing a machine, and tutorials for more complex shit like desinging dmd animations?

I've had an idea for a pinball machine to make for a while and with summer almost here i feel like designing a pinball machine would be a fun project, i already have the rules, figured out a good deal
but now i have to actually draw the layout, and the only snag im in right now is having to draw bootleg quality drawings of everything from playfields to inserts

Pardon my "quality" drawings

>>3207067
Forgot my picture

>>3197187
Weird how games were in the bars, then went out of the bars, and now they're back in the bars.

>>3207067
I can't really help with much of what your asking but I thought I heard of a program where you can design your table and actually play it. Maybe someone here knows what I'm talking about. Could be a good way to test your design.

>>3207067
Use VPX for design and basic testing. Once that's done and you're happy with the layout and whatnot, build it in meatspace. It would suck to build something halfway and then realise you need to start over to change a certain thing.

>>3207001

>>3207125
hey thanks anon this is fucking great!
I'm going to be able to finish designing this in no time once i get familiar with it.

>>3205926
I can beat your shit score on it or any other table you shitlicking pleb

>>3200932
hell of a job there mate

>>3201146
Nascar has one of the coolest launches I've ever seen on a pinball machine.

>>3208008
why?

>>3201723
reminds me of this place I know of downtown in Canton

Aside from that there's a huge bowling place half an hour away that's got 20-odd machines, I don't approve of their game costs though. Also I really suck at pinball.

>>3208010
When you launch the ball, it goes up the normal path on the right, then goes around the top, along the left side, around another set of turns, and finally up another straight into the playfield, essentially they incorporated a nascar track into the table for the ball to run on, and I think that's cool, even if I'm not a nascar fan. I've never seen another table do something cool and thematic with the ball launch like that, closest I can think of is the one Arabian Nights one where you shoot for the snake.

>>3208008
Harry Williams did the same thing in the '50s. Pat Lawlor = evil man, steals the ideas and credit from others.

>>3208043
you're saying incorporating concepts of the theme into the table is a bad thing, because someone else did it before?

>>3208048
I'm saying Python knows the truth and it must be propagated. Pat Lawlor is not a chemist. Yet he claims credit for Diamond Coat.

>>3208053
what does that have to do with a ball launch?

>>3208082
Every thread there's some butthurt guy with an axe to grind with based Pat

Game of Thrones>Ghostbusters

>>3208447
I dunno about all that now

Safe Cracker is one of the most unique games I've ever played, but holy hell I have no clue what the fuck I'm even doing. Very unlike a professional bank robber to go in with zero plan.

Seems like a fun game to play with friends, though.

To whoever uploaded the new Pinball Arcade version, thanks, I need it for my pinball fix because the one No Good Gofers nearby me doesn't even have working lights so its impossible to play, plus the Seattle Pinball Museum drama.

>Asked Seattle Pinball Museum when they're going to bring back Twilight Zone, told them I'd happily stop by again if they did
>"We'll do it soon"
>Its been over half of a year, no sign of it
>They keep filling their showroom with fucking modern Stern bullshit and other garbage

You can just tell me straight up to fuck off, its not hard. Fuck those people.

>>3196753
This isn't just in modern machines because it was in Addams Family but fucking magnet bullshit that messes with your ball drives me nuts. It feels like at that point, it doesn't matter how good you are but rather if the game decides you should win or go straight down the middle.

>>3208724
>fucking magnet bullshit
And Stern goes overboard with that shit, see X-men and Ironman

>>3208724
>They keep filling their showroom with fucking modern Stern bullshit

Not sure why but I just can't get into newer pins like the ones Stern pumps out. They are just all "meh" tables.

I bet they're a bitch to maintain when something breaks or stops working. You would have to call in a specialist expert to come and fix it.

>>3208921
Or learn that shit before parting with thousands of dollars for a large cumbersome toy with hundreds of moving parts that are bound to break at one point or another

>>3208921
It's just like any other hobby, you learn it and pick it up as you go. Thankful for us we have soooooo many great videos and forums to ask for help. I got into dirtbikes a bit before pins, and when parts break you try to trouble shoot and fix it yourself if applicable. It's part of the joy of laboring over a hobby. I've never owned a pin, but this is how I imagine it, although I'm sure it can be frustrating

>>3208724
>To whoever uploaded the new Pinball Arcade version
wheres the new upload at?

>>3208848
>They are just all "meh" tables.
Agreed I played the newish wwf table recently, boring as fuck.

>>3209640
I really like Sopranos, Transformers, Ironman

>>3209640
The ring feature is pretty fucking cool though

>>3209639
KAT. Viper did it

>>3208817
>X-Men
>has tons of magnets

What were you expecting?

>tfw no no fear machines near me
at least i got attack from mars and medieval madness

>>3208921
They're relatively complex, but you logically would take it on yourself to learn basic maintenance and repair. Older tables are way more difficult than newer ones, arguably.

>>3208464
I love how the TPA version includes tokens rolling down the playfield glass.

>>3212235
If you want difficult maintenance then try those Bally machines with the funky backboxes like pic related. It's a complete clusterfuck of wires inside.

VPcabs on Shark Tank tonight. Pinball Arcade fags BTFO. PhysMod 5 for life.

>>3212290
Tpa is better for casual play while vp is better for simulation
Nothin wrong with that, different programs for different means

>>3209708
Tron and Star Trek are pretty sweet as well.

>>3212295
star trek is pretty much the best Stern

>>3212293
The casual thing about Pinball Arcade is its level of fidelity to realism and accuracy.

I'm hearing mixed things on Ghostbusters. What are /vr/'s opinions from people who have had the chance to play it?

>tfw pinball machine gives me an erection
Elvira pls

>>3213303
It's called Scared Stiff, isn't it?
(or, at least one of them are)

I think it's kinda cool that she has her own pinball tables btw.

>>3213603
lots of people have their own tables. Indiana Jones, Judge Dredd, Spider-Man, Batman and many, many others

>>3213603
It's alot of fun too

>>3213875
Yeah but that she actually owns copies of her own tables, and play them, I heard she's a pinball enthusiast.

>>3214269
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cY_gCiGIm8
>I heard she's a pinball enthusiast.
i think this promo video speaks for itself

bally or williams?

>>3214828
Williams. After 1988 they're the same company anyway, so just judging by their earlier works I have to give it to them.

>>3201113
Secret Service is in everything but name. It even plays the theme from The Spy Who Loved Me.

>>3214269
>Copies
We're talking about hand-built machines here, not video games.

>>3196354
My father was a pinball wizard and, in the days when you could rack up an infinite number of free games, he'd always leave 99 free games for the next guy to come along.

There was an arcade across from the building where my father worked, and every night after work he'd spend an hour or two there unwinding, playing pinball. He only ever spent a single quarter, and could play as long as he wanted on it. The arcade owner hated him and two went to war. Each day my father would come in to find the pinball game he'd played the day before had been jacked up to a higher angle, had bumper strength reduced, the flippers weakened, and the spinners all tightened. He'd still rack up free games, and the next day the machine would be made even harder. After months of this, every pinball game in the building was practically impossible to play and tilted up so high that the slightest jiggle from pushing the flippers would cause the machine to tilt.

>mfw the arcade owner destroyed his own business to keep my father from winning free games

>>3216415
Why didn't he just change the settings so it didn't give out free games?

>>3216484
because it's a made up story

>>3216484
Who knows? He clearly wasn't rational if he was willing to sabotage his own pinball games just to keep my father from playing on a single quarter. I mean, he could also just have banned my father from his arcade. At some point it became an obsession.

>>3216489
I'm curious, even if it was entirely made up from whole cloth (it isn't), what's the benefit to you in ruining someone else's fun? There was a time when people took pride in crafting stories which were just at the edge of believable. Half the enjoyment from being on 4chan was trying to guess which stories were true and which were bullshit. I'm guessing you're too young to remember those days.

>>3216516
Autism, TX

Which one /pin/?

>>3216854
both at the same time

>>3216856
Those outer lanes in Circus are intense

>>3216854
Neither: Xenon.

>>3216854
>Which one /pin/?
>>3216856
>both at the same time
That's what Elvira would say.

>>3217130
>Get it in there
>Good Head
>Bad Head
>Sleeeeeeepy Head

>>3216969
Such a pretty pin. Haven't seen one in the wild yet, maybe at the pinball expo this sunmer

>>3217279
>Such a pretty pin
And a pretty voice.

>>3196354
>We actually hit the bump limit Edition

So TILT edition, then?

>>3216392
Semantics, but yes.

>>3216415
That's funny.

>>3216489
>>3216546
Take it cool.

>>3216415
>tfw an EM pinball arcade an hour away
I love it. I can't explain how much having an oldschool pin place has expanded my respect for the game. I even played a few for .10

>>3216854
Scammer con man shit game or game by he who couldn't be great without Python? Ramp ramp screwdriver guy. Such hard choice. Burn Voltaire like the rest of its kind, sell Scared Stiff.

>>3217449
Jesus.Christ. Anon, pinball isn't that serious anymore. These are both enjoyable and beautiful games, get a grip bud

>>3217472
So not serious that scammer Popadiuk uses it to steal millions from buyers of his non-existent pinball machines.

>>3216854
I've never seen a Voltaire in person. Do all of them have that fancy topper?

>>3217495
I don't know man this is my first time playing one. It is an interesting pin to say the least
>>3217483
Huh?

>>3196354

Just got done with Ann Arbor pinball show. Best show I've ever been too. 300 pins and I got to play Hobbit / Ghostbusters.

>>3217731
"Huh"? Don't be talking shit when you don't know shit then. Real Men burn Popadiuk machines, Voltaire included, because Real Men had real money stolen by that scammer. Over 1 million US dollars. Fuck his scam machines.

>>3217807
granpa its time to stop posting on your chinese canoeing forum and go to bed

>>3217807
Are you the same anon who acts all crazy over the mention of pinball arcade? I'm new to pinball so by all means if you wanna elaborate briefly about this scam from the designer, or if you got ripped off I'd like to hear it since this is a pinball thread, no need to get all crazy

>>3217807
Was burning pins apart of your plan?

>>3217859
Wow, you actually think "apart" and "a part" mean the same thing? Are you in fucking elementary school?

>>3217873
He probably hears that alot.

>>3216516
>what's the benefit to you in ruining someone else's fun?
I didn't craft or post the story, I just commented on it.

>you're too young
You jumped to conclusions and insulted a random passerby with a meme, well done

>>3217918
OH SHIT

A DRIVE BY MEMEING

ON THE INFORMATION SUPERHIGHWAY

>>3217873

>>3217830
Read all 18776 posts for the full story

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/jpop-update-thread%E2%80%A6%E2%80%A6%E2%80%A6%E2%80%A6%E2%80%A6mg-raza-and-aiw%E2%80%A6

>>3218280
>Read all 18776 posts

>>3218280

>>3218280
>please read 18000+ posts on some forum
Nigger are you for real?
Post a tl;dr of what you're trying to say, nobody here cares about drama on some board somewhere, especially not 18000 posts of it

>>3218719
Jesus christ, you children on 4chan are utter fucking morons. I read that last 10 messages and got the gist of the whole thing. Some guy wanted to make new pinball games with entirely new stuff in them, so he made some designs, paid for some sketches, and then started accepting donations. Then he blew all the money without actually making anything because he's a temperamental and unrealistic dreamer who is only interested in designs (which he never actually finishes, just keeps on "improving" forever).

>>3218734

Ok thanks for the tl;dr.

Anyway if some guy tells me to read 18k fucking posts, I'm not gonna bother reading any of it, seriously.

>>3218734
Then fucking say that you cunt, instead of linking a thread on some forum and telling us to read several thousands of posts, some of us have shit to do.

>>3218734
Check your autismo rage at the OP guy, this is a thread to discuss pinball. Beleuve it or not everyone didn't spend the past 30 years playing pinball, so alot of us are learning. Don't know why you're so goddamn cynical, I'm assuming you're the same guy who was reeeeeeeing earlier

What personal goals is everyone working on?
I'm still trying to get through Battle for the Kingdom. Last time I got to the end and forgot to save some troll bombs.

>>3220874

Valinor which will be my fucking death. Closest i got was 5 elf gifts, destroyed ring, 2 of 3 multiballs done and got to there and back again.

Game has crazy staying power, which is why its a keeper.

>>3220874

The place I go to play pinball has a couple tables, including Mustang, Game of Thrones and KISS, and I've been trying to make the wizard modes in any of them and making questionable progress. I haven't gotten close to Silverball Stampede on Mustang yet, made Hand Of The King and Winter Has Come on Game of Thrones, but not close to Iron Throne, and while I made KISS Army on KISS, it was a massive struggle and I didn't get close to either of the other wizard modes.

There used to be an Addams Family near me where I once managed to Tour The Mansion five times in one game. Kind of wish I could go back to that kind of success.

>>3221113

>Valinor

Fucking hell, I couldn't even remotely imagine trying for that. I guess it would be different if I owned the table (and therefore could practice every day), but even though I play LOTR whenever I get a shot at it, I'm fucking happy just getting to Destroy The Ring.

>>3220874
trying to make the second damn right ramp shot to stir the cup in Diner the shot feels like it's very hard to make the shot with the ball cradled, and I instead need to let the ball have some spin on it before i shoot it to get it up the ramp

>>3221508
What a cool pin, I haven't got to play it yet

Had the pleasure of playing Gorgar earlier, might head back for a few more I love the old school pins

>>3222797
is that a library?

>>3222806
It's a bookstore/coffeeshop and I love it

>>3222797
I'm jealous of that Cactus Canyon. You certainly don't see those every day.

>>3222902
That game is pretty sweet too. Especially the Draw feature.

I've been playing a lot of Last Action Hero recently since it came out on TPA, and I'm slowly trying to work my way up to 1st place.

Data East/Sega machines have really nice bass to their speakers.

>>3223345
I don't understand why this game has a playfield magnet other than Data East's fetish for shoving gimmicks like shaker motors in every machine.

>>3223427
I'd love it if somebody's game titled because of a shaker motor.

Speaking of Data East, has there been any other pinball manufacturer that made custom games for people?

>>3223345
I really like the Data East machines, I wish the Last Action Hero near me worked looks fun

hey lads, back from a 3 day ban, /vr/ sucks balls outside of the pinball thread

Honest question, not trying to shitpost: Would games like Metroid Prime Pinball be allowed here? It's on the DS, but it's a pinball game

>>3212431
Played a few games on it at Pin A Go Go over the weekend and really enjoyed it. That, Americas Most Haunted and Archer were my favorite games of the new ones. P3 and Full Throttle were also cool, as was Hobbit.

>>3225746
Fair question, physical pinball tables have been so far exempt from the 2000 NOT RETRO! cut-off. We discuss modern Sterns and the current tables coming out like Ghostbusters, The Hobbit and Game of Plebs etcetera...
Console pinball gets mentioned but usually not a lot of discussion on it, I see the Saturn pinball games get mentioned regularly. Those games are retro and pinball so that shit is cool. The title that you've brought up is a video game that falls outside of /vr/. But it is pinball and we have a pretty slow thread here, I don't think anyone would jump down your throat over it.

>>3224254
>plunger button
maybe you need another ban

>>3223427
When and who introduced the shaker motor? I thought it was a relatively new thing.

>>3225880
You got a problem with medieval madness?

>>3225880
Kek

>>3225885
Earthshaker was the first, but WIlliams never patented it, so DE felt the need to just copy it and put it in everything.

>>3225873
I think it's a really well made set of pinballs. The developer, Fuse Games, is some of the remains of Pro Pinball's Cunning Development. The pinballs in the game are not "realistic", there's lots of moving objects and effects, though mentally I treat them like enhanced video mode. The mechanics are simple, but because of that also quite accessible. As such, I think it's a great example of a portable game. Based on a fairly big console game it sums up the story. Based on actual pinball machines it streamlines the gameplay, without losing entertainment value.
All that said, I really love the whole theme. Metroid, and playing the whole thing as a morph ball was just genius. A beautifuly little detail is that morph ball samus is always aligned with her movement direction. She'll turn, if necessary. Sure, it's just the ball sprite changing, but it fits the theme, and makes reading the low resolution screen easier.
The game's story has 6 tables. Two of them are closest to normal standalone tables, with a theme, and lots of shit to do. The remaining 4 tables are "boss" tables, with at least one central boss, and minimal table design to enable interaction with that boss.
Lots of rambling here, but I think as far as digital/virtual games this is one of my all time favorites, because of that variety, yet focus on a theme, the creativity in interactions, the fairly strong story telling (for a pinball, anyway) and the "friendly" difficulty giving even noobs like me a chance to do something.

Pic is my favorite table. Everything flows so nicely there, including the music (though that's all from the video game, so the pinball can't get much credit there)

>>3225964
>The pinballs in the game are not "realistic", there's lots of moving objects and effects
That's what I like about pinball video games. No point in restricting yourself to real-world limitations when you're working in a virtual space.

>>3226007
it's a mixed bag. A huge part of the appeal of pinball machines is their physicality, and even the video games tend to simulate (more or less successfully) a lot of that physically. The angled playfield, the flipper arms, the bumpers, slingshots, they all behave "physical", and they give the player a sense of that they're playing a digital variant of a real machine.
To me, Metroid Prime Pinball did good again due to the way they added the "unrealistic" bits.
Like the already mentioning alignment of the Morphball. Unrealistic as fuck, but super fitting for the theme, and not distracting from the table at all.
The wall jumps (upper third on both pics) have Samus act in her traditional humanoid manner, but only very briefly.
The color coordinated phazon multiball is unrealistic as well, but it feels like a careful enhancement again, because it's still a fully table dominated game. It's just, the targets are put on the field out of nowhere, randomized, and color coordinated, so you need to hit the right target with the right ball.

I guess what I'm saying is, these additions don't sound like the developers feeling restricted by the physicality of pinball and letting all loose. It's more like the developers envisioning not-yet-possible things for actual tables, and then letting them interact on a virtual table.

What's deviating from this is the combat mode. Both tables have a circle pad bottom center. When combat mode is enable, and Samus rolls over that circle, she becomes humanoid for a short fight section. She stands in place and autofires. Flippers just change the direction she fires at. The whole thing is over aver a couple handful of seconds. That's why I kind of treat it like video mode, and I'd dare say, it could even be done fully in video mode.
There are a few other brief features that stray, and I have to admit, I kind of don't like some of them, because of that.

>>3226007
And after all the MPP rambling in >>3226023 I have to add, I played some Zen Pinball tables, and they didn't appeal to me as much. Mars was a freebie, and that shuttle was just so annoying. It didn't feel like a cool toy or feature, it felt like it's getting in the way of the actual pinball. Some of the other tables were not doing any better. Sure, you can do all these things, sky's the limit and all that, but, to me, pinball is a bit of a finicky kind of game, that does not handle well when it's pushed to the side lines, because a toy wants all the attention.

Are there any good multiplayer pinballs? I don't mean hotseat scoring, unless the actions of one player affect the other player somehow. Someone mentioned a two player cocktail design in a thread a while back, but that's just one ball for two players, which does not sound very pinball to me. Is there anything else? Machines where you can play duels, like a score chase, affect the playfield of the other player somehow? So each player has a ball constantly in play, has their own table, but is still player with/against someone else.

>>3226039
There's been quite a few released over the years, though it may be difficult finding one in good playable condition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVp_4SEfpVQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgoDryiZHY8

>>3226007
I know it's not a popular opinion on /vr but I really love the first two levels of Sonic Spinball.

Had some fantastic music also!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UcYTD9Uhato

>inb4 the option screen song
Yes, we know it's bad

>>3226107
that's the two player - one ball cocktail thing though, no? Players don't have their own independent playfield and their own set of balls

>>3226215
>independent playfield and their own set of balls
That's completely retarded. You can just take turns on a single table.

>>3226241
not if they affect each other. Say, there are moveable barriers on the table, that pop up on one table, when targets are hit on another. These can be negative barriers, that keep your opponent from scoring, or positive barriers, that protect your co-player's outlanes or make a ramp shot easier. Or you do a score race, who gets faster to a certain score, with parts on the field changing based on anybody reaching a certain score, so, for example, a certain bonus is only available to everyone playing, as long as the player most ahead has fewer than X points. Or co-op tables, where any one player can trigger objectives, but the objects can only be completed together. A cross table combo, for example, where a player does 3 ramps on their table, which lights up a ramp on the other table, that the other player needs to shoot to continue the combo and so on. Or a multiball where one player can provide additional balls to the other one, by shooting certain sink holes during the mulitball, which "pass" the ball from their table to the other one.

>>3226246
or plain shooter death match between up to 4 players/tables. Targets and ramps on the table select gun, ammo and what player you're aiming at, fire the weapon, etc. Quick targets pop up to dodge. Health is tracked as a stat for all four players, maybe prominently on the playfield. If any player is killed, their table behaves like a tilt, with flippers not reacting and the only ball in play draining. Last man standing wins. Machines may even have different layouts and rules for different fighting styles.

car themed table with an actual race, where players need to shoot ramps and targets to speed up, change gear, bump nearby opponents, shift down and brake to not spin at a turn, and so on. Tables again react to each other. So you got to brake (hit the right target) on a timer when the car in front of you brakes, for example.

the possibilities are pretty unlimited

A friend of friend wants to sell one like pic related, is it worth it /vr/?

>>3226260
If you like that movie, yes.
If you like pinball and/or Star Wars, no.

>>3226214
It's not the best pinball game, it's not the best Sonic game, but it has its charm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkWUJfIotfU

>>3226215
Did you watch the Joust video?
Here's another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob7CM71J2No

>>3226331
just did, and, well, it's a cocktail machine, with a single playfield and players don't have their own set of balls, so ... ok?

>>3226340
How would you incorporate 2 separate play fields for simultaneous play?
>Flippers (4), Kick-out holes (2), 3-bank drop targets (4), 2-in-line drop targets (2), Spinning targets (2). After both players have drained all balls, each has 30 seconds to play an unlimited number of balls.

>This is a head-to-head game where two players at opposite ends of the playfield compete in simultaneous play. Each player has flipper buttons which control only those flippers facing the opponent. Play begins by one player pressing the flipper buttons.

>>3226352
>How would you incorporate 2 separate play fields for simultaneous play?
>>3226246
>>3226252

>>3226356
Draw it up for me, I'm a visual person

>>3226363
the red bits are serial/ethernet cables.
There's not much to draw really. Any of the connected machines can change gameplay state and move physical targets based on input from one of the other connected machines. Instead of your own table bringing back a target bank, a signal from the table next to you does it. The rest is just sugarcoating these "distributed" actions in a ruleset.

>>3226374
So this could potentially be a program for existing tables, with some modification, not an entirely new table design or Frankenstein type deal with separate playfields meshed together for one larger multiplayer machine.

>>3226241
I'd like you to meet the unreleased Total Recall table(s?) by Data East.

>>3226396
Ideally the tables are specifically made for that kind of play, so the rules "make sense". I mentioned a few such theme/rule examples in the two posts I quoted.
For existing tables it's kind of hard to convey to the player why the kid next to them started the multiball for them.
However, the table itself would look like a fairly standard common single player table. It's all in the rules and theme, no special playing field.

Yeah, definitely no frankensteined machine. Each player has their own playfield. All multiplayer interaction is through the rules. After all, you still want all the things that come with good pinball tables. Comfortable size, solid layout, ability to nudge and bump, and so on.

Just imagine the frenzy at an arcade when three connected RPG-themed machines are playing together, one player opens the door to the end boss, all machines play the boss theme unison (maybe some light animation across all machines, that relies on the way they are positioned in the arcade), and a 4-ball per machine multiball starts, with all players together draining the health of the big bad boss on a timer. Hell, you'd get shouting matches between players "shit, he paralized my upper left flipper, can any of you two spare a potion? (sink hole, select inventory item with flippers). Followed by a couple more seconds of target rampage to hit that boss and then high fives all around because 3 players together fulfilled one common objective.

>>3226408
that thing looks cruel. Just big enough to still allow nudging. Should fuck up your neighbors play beautifully. Top center seems to be a combined playfield, with either one player controlling both flippers, or both players controlling one flipper each

>>3226260
There is a cool documentary on YouTube about this game and the crash of Williams, I believe it is called Tilt. It is nostalgic yet sad at the same time

>>3226454
>the crash of Williams

>>3226860
The driver had the ballys to walk out of the car and midway on the track, can you believe it? They gave him a stern warning to not do it again, or he'd be racing jack next time

>>3226860
lel

>>3226860
>crashing this company
>with a few survivors

I will never not be curious about the world of Spanish pinball. Sadly a majority of these machines are either unemulated, lost to time, or both.

>>3227834
Then again to us Americans, what they have there seems primitive compared to the machines made over here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY-6T8ODt3E

Got 200 mil on Creature tonight, halfway to Grand Champion. Next time I'm gonna beat the shit out of that scaly green cocksucker and get his super jackpot.

>>3227859
>Next time I'm gonna beat the shit out of that scaly green cocksucker
hey now, be kind to your arcade owner. They're putting a lot of work and time into these machines so you can enjoy them

>>3227862
Heh, but seriously the owner is an incredibly nice guy. He says Ghostbusters will be in soon, but it's being delayed.

>>3206298
On January 30, 1989, Kenneth Lamar Noid, a mentally ill man who thought the ads were a personal attack on him, held two employees of an Atlanta Domino's restaurant hostage for over five hours. After forcing them to make him a pizza and making demands for $100,000, getaway transportation, and a copy of The Widow's Son, Noid surrendered to the police.[4] After the incident ended, Police Chief Reed Miller offered a memorable assessment to reporters: "He's paranoid."[5] Noid was charged with kidnapping, aggravated assault, extortion, and possession of a firearm during a crime. He was found not guilty by reason of insanity. Noid spent three months in a mental institution, and eventually committed suicide in 1995. This incident caused Domino's Pizza to discontinue advertising using the Noid as their mascot.[6]

holy shit

>>3227879
you're lucky. Well maintained place close to where you live, or somewhere off your way?

>>3227884
20 minute drive, very lucky.

>>3227841
>those Sonic sound effects
>that broken slingshot
Quality stuff.

>>3227841
>what they have there seems primitive compared to the machines made over here
not every machine needs gimmicks. Even in the present you can design machines that have no ramps, no video display, but still have a wonderful flow and cool opportunities for combos to rake up the points. That flow and feel of the table is more important than lots of gimmicks and video mode. It's why people still play, and enjoy, the old machines.
Also, deviating from the modern ramps + slingshots + two flippers design that's so commonplace nowadays is a nice change of pace.

>>3229981
Awesome game. Maybe the best horror-themed pinball ever?

>>3230002
It's the only horror one I've played, I'd kill to find a Nightmare in the wild, then again it's a 90s Gotlieb so I bet it won't compare to Dracula

>>3229981
I'm so fucking awful at this game that I can never appreciate it. That video mode is undoubtedly the best, though.

>>3226409
Interesting idea.

>>3231357
It is brutally tough, especially the ramps, but I feel like it helps a lot

>>3196354
>tfw desperately waiting for news on the pinball circus remake

I know it's a prototype but i really like the changes so far

I'm digging the widened flipper gap with the snake head inbetween that thrusts forward

I like how if you fail to reach the ring leader the wire form drain for ring 3 doesn't feed the ball softly onto the flipper for an easy mystery wheel, and sends the ball off into a dangerous tracjectory
adding an element of danger to failure

and having the figure suspended in air by aerial silks? that moves around is neat would be cool if you could give it a high five for something during a mode and get extra points , but the arm would break much sooner

im a bit worried about the elephant sound effect but i'm positive they'l replace it

https://www.facebook /james.loflin.1/videos/1241657442527256/

pardon the facebook link it's the most quite footage i could find

so what do you guys think?

add.com between facebook and /

Have you ever been in the zone while playing? I am by no means an expert pinball player but It felt like I could do no wrong this morning. Beat the original high score by a couple hundred thousand.

>>3231736
and from now and you'll be chasing that feeling for months, if not years. Good luck

>>3231736
>In the zone
Yup, it's like aura where you just can't be stopped

>>3231741
Haha! Thanks!
>>3231756
I was able to calm the ball no problem and made the majority of my shots I placed. It was unreal. Should of scored more but I started to play like my normal self when I realized I was near the high score.

>>3231789
I don't know about you, but as much as I love to shatter a high score, by orders of magnitude even, it's somewhat frustrating to realize, that score is gonna stand for a while. It's gonna take a lot of luck to get back into that zone again, and break that score. In the meantime, every attempt to get there will look like noob-play, because it's so far away from that one score that knocked it out of the park. You know you can do it, in theory, because you did it, the score proves it. And yet, you're standing there, failing at a fraction of that record.

>>3231789
That's how it always goes. Usually for me I've had 3-6 beers, so I'm not over thinking it, but once you see how close you are to ranking you tend to get nervous and blow it. That's what makes it so much fun tho ha

>>3231736
>Have you ever been in the zone while playing?
Possibly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuwQkcuDM0w

>>3231736
Swords of Fury? Jealous...

>>3235040
I owned that game for a while, but it has no real lasting appeal. You'd get tired of it once you realize there's not that much to do on it.

>>3235065
About time someone states the truth about that meme "lionman" game.

>>3235065

That and LIONMAN gets old really fast. Same reason i moved mine on after 6 months.

>>3232204
If I want to play pinball decently I need to be completely sober. The alcohol fucks up my timing. Pool on the other hand is a totally different story. 2-3 beers relaxes the body and I make smoother shots. After 4+ beers tho I'm back to playing terrible lol.

>>3233825
Have yet to play that table. Heard good things.

>>3235040
Not to rub it in but its great! Always been a sucker for swords&sorcery stuff too.

>>3235065
>>3237037
I could see that but I'm honestly lucky if I have time to play it twice a week. Should still be a fresh table(to me) for quite sometime.

>>3237037
Careful, my post agreeing about the table and mocking the "lionman" aspect was deleted.

Since posts are getting deleted now for accurately representing truth and widely-held opinion, chew on this again.

[Jersey Jack's secret Pat Lawlor abortion is] titled "Dialed In" and is a game where a cell phone located on the game calls you and the guy tells you what shots to make. A robot's arm stops a shot on the upper ramp when lit. Pat is using his 4 magnets again to throw the ball around the playfield below the cross cross ramps. Lit inserts move toward the player and you must stop them before they reach the flippers. There is another lcd display that has 2 way mirror that you have to shoot at like pin 2000. His 3rd flipper on the right middle shoots the ball up a ramp. Pat has moving target in the middle playfield blocking shots to the jets. Pat is directing this narrow game to the engineer like he did with us at WMS using someone named Wally and some Mexican as a cad drafter. I guess Jack will have to get some more investors to produce this game......as we all know of the delays from Hobbit. They are more than 4 months behind and still working with the same 2 year old white wood. Don't look for this game anytime soon.

3 new games Jack has in the lineup are Muppets, Pirates of the Caribbean, and Toy Story. He has the Disney license for them now. The Muppets is a poor choice as is only one of many Jack has made with JJP.

>>3237556
>>3237548
Why and who would delete the posts? Mods? Also the Hobbit broke the first week it arrived here, haven't gotten a chance to play it yet if they haven't removed it

>>3237548
>>3237556
>>3237782

The popaduik shit got deleted, I know that there's a lot of pissed people at him for his dodgy scams but when you post vitriolic shit aimed a an irl person it'll be deleted if someone reports it.
I doubt the janitor or mods know anything at all about pinball but this is post-gg/fappening 4 chan and anything resembling personal attacks or defamation will get removed.

Just got back from the mall and found they have a Williams machine called No Good Gofers. It's fun but kind of hard, any tips?

>>3237828
Yah I guess I forgot about all the indicents, doxxs, etc...Moot also nuked /pol/ at one point I remember. Still this thread is pretty PG compared to literally ANY other board

>>3238173
It's not that hard once you get a feel for it. Put some time into it if you like it and you'll get the rules and the familiarity of it enough to get multiball and jackpots and hopefully your initials on the board.

>>3237828
Can't believe the mods are involving themselves in a conspiracy to defraud people of over 1 million dollars. Maybe they'll be named in the many pending lawsuits.

>>3238173
Don't refer to it as "Chip and Dale" like Carice van Houten does since she owns it yet doesn't know the name.

Oops I made a personal attack on an IRL person. I hope she doesn't burn me like Stannis' daughter.

>>3238285
Maybe said designer is mod....dun dun dunnnnnnn

>>3238304
>popaduik doing it for free

My local hangout has 4 to 5 tables depending on if they're working or not.

Lord of the Rings (the newest of the bunch, pretty rad)
Funhouse
Creature from the Black Lagoon
Big Guns
Addam's Family
Street Fighter II (personal fav)

Plus they've got a bunch of cool Arcade machines.

>>3237556

Just sounds like a shite version of JM without the cool sci-if theme.

>>3238173
Always go for that Hole in One shot because you'll cream yourself every time you make it.

>>3238323
That's a decent pin selection

>tfw just blew Scared Stiff Multiball
>tfw just completed everything in Circus Voltaire except the Juggler and then blew it
Today was not my day, but those almost moments keep you hooked

>>3237548
It was probably deleted for using the term "meme [noun]", which is usually a sign of major cancer.

>>3238291
>>3237828
>stop deleting my conspiracy bullshit

butthurt

>>3238610
Maybe someone should tell Pinside about this thread and you can take on every single member by yourself.

Some EM fix for the day

>>3240338
anybody still making those?

>>3240386
I think Stern made a retro one recently? Other than that no, but I'm sure there of PLENTY of EMs floating around out there

>>3240468
>I think Stern made a retro one recently
Not looking for retro, a current one

>I'm sure there of PLENTY of EMs floating around out there
no doubt about that, but they're all made in the past. Nothing against that past, but I think pin designers learned a thing or two regarding good flow, placement of toys and so on. EM is, more so than SS, and whatever the current tech does, an engineering feat. It's the toy equivalent of an Analytical Engine. And just like purely mechanical watches are not only alive and kicking, they are getting constant refinements and improvements, I'd love to see the same happen to EM pinball. Just pushing the envelope of what you can do with a couple cables, cogs and a shitload of patience and creativity.

>time out all modes but LAST-ACTION-HERO
>scores billions if shooting bumpers for almost unlimited time
>table doesn't rollover
Most if not all machines have a single really good scoring method and I think DMD era stuff just has too much filler&sucker shots.

What good is reusing all the playfield shots for different modes that don't matter?

>>3240491
He's talking about Whoa Nellie, which is a current one.

However, it's not a real EM. It's all electronically controlled. It just uses an EM-style score reel instead of an electronic display.

>>3240491
>Reproduction EM Pinball Machines
Someone... Please...Make one. I love the EM machines

>>3226867
underrated

>>3197179
Goddamn, why can't Pinball Arcade just use the lighting colors from the machines? Dracula looks way more thematic with the weird red and blues. Why in the world would Medieval Mayhem's red lights be replaced with green?

>>3206201
Played in at Zapcon IV in Phoenix. Interesting, but the tilt of that upper table makes the things you can do with the ball pretty limited and not super interesting. Good music, though.

>>3220874
The only bastard with a higher score than me on The Machine: Bride of PIN•BOT got the billionaire's spin. I'm gonna spin that wheel until I finally beat him.

>>3241806
You mean Madness right?
The strength of the lighting and colors on tables differ greatly as it depends on the uptake of the machine and whether it's been modded or not.
Medieval Madness does has Green in the top left.

>>3241806
Those machines look modded. Pinball Arcade replicates the original lighting that the machines shipped with.

Slight green illumination on the castle itself seen here

and in the moat in here >>3241860

and how well lit the establishment is plays a huge factor.

>>3229981
The atmosphere is so good on this machine. I wish PA gave me the option to dim the room lights and use the original blue and red.

To anyone who has played the physical pin: would the mist ball mode affect the behavior of the player's ball much?

>>3241878
Interesting! The table I played definitely had red lighting for Medieval Mayhem. It was the first time I had ever played it, so I just assumed that's what it should look like.

ZCIV happened just last month and its the reason I've been lurking in the thread. I never really had an interest in pinball until I started talking to people who explained the rules and modes of the different machines and how stacking bonuses worked. I got to play a ton of machines and have either played or seen most of the ones in this thread at ZC. I bought my first two tables on Pinball Arcade that night, but they're pretty expensive so I'm waiting on a sale to get more.

Bride of PIN•BOT is my favorite one because the advancement is permanently shown on the table and it kind of tells a story. I like the feeling of getting in the zone and shooting the heart ramps consecutively. Overall it's a fun table with neat gimmicks that's has rules simple enough for a beginner like me to remember.

I'd like to find other tables like Pin-Bot, Pub Brawl, or Medieval Mayhem where I feel like I'm advancing a story.

>>3241912
>Medieval Mayhem

>>3241919
>Pub Brawl

>>3241939

>>3241806
The guy who owns those machines adds new LEDs and light mods to match the themes. They look great too

>>3225746
>>3225964

>the pinball games on 3DS are limited to the tiny top screen only because they wanted the shitty 3D effect
>can't see shit

Why? Why the fuck wouldn't you take advantage of the dual vertical layout screens like Metroid Pinball? Fucking Zen studios are retarded.

*bleeping and blooping intensifies*

>>3242561
Zen Pinball for the 3DS is a port from a system with a single widescreen. All assets, camera logic, models, etc, are made for that viewing angle. The tables are designed to be viewed as a whole.
Meanwhile Metroid Prime Pinball is specifically made for the DS. The tables contain no gameplay-relevant elements in their middle, because that middle is covered by the gap between the two screens.
The only way Zen Pinball could take advantage of the two screens is by designing tables specifically for that layout, and, well, they just can't be bothered.

>>3244261
That guy's just retarded senpai

page 9

So are pinball video games allowed here?

Looking for a couple to quell a craving for pinball I currently have. Any suggestions?

>>3246194
Pinball vidya discussion has always been allowed by the mods, at least from what I've seen.

>>3246194
Check out pinball arcade
>inb4 that one guy

>>3246194
Read the thread

also

There was another separate thread dedicated to video game pinball but maybe it 404'd

>>3246194
>>3246569

Here might help >>3229919

>>3246350
Seems to be a new rule that you're not allowed to talk about scammers / hacks though

>>3246604
>you're not allowed to talk about scammers / hacks
correct, this is /vr/, not /drama/. You can talk about the games/programs and their (lack of?) quality though

>>3246607
So you're the fiend who reports posts then

>>3246607
But the games don't exist, only people's fully paid pre-orders for $10,000 per machine exist. Burn all copies of WCS. Burn all copies of TOTAN. Burn all copies of ToM. Burn all copies of CV. Burn all copies of Star Wars Episode I.

>>3246797
Were people paying for pre orders on machines that weren't even out of the design stage yet?

>>3247129
Fake prototypes Doc Brown style. Awesome looking artwork with crazy layouts but inside just full of used pinball machine parts while he made off with the plutonium.

>>3247350
It should definitely be discussed here, this is pinball general, I never browse pinside besides pics so I'm glad I learned about this. I wouldn't advocate burning machines however, since there are only so many alive still

>>3246797
>But the games don't exist
duh
>Pinball vidya discussion has always been allowed

>>3247395
Some people got drunk at a pinball party and dragged the Cirqus Voltaire out for a bonfire. It was just sitting there unplugged because the owner swore he'd never play it again nor inflict the Bad Karma upon anyone else by selling it.

There's a pinball meetup league thing tomorrow in my country. I've never played before but I want to.

My social anxiety is flaring up even THINKING about going never mind the actual social interaction.

Fuck. What do?

>>3247595
rock back and forth in a dark corner of the basement

>>3247595
Do u drink? Have a beer or two to take the edge off, don't worry too much alot of people that play pinball can be socially anxious or awkward, it's no biggie man. Just talk about pinball, and enjoy yourself it aint like your gonna be dropping any panties with your pinball wizard skills anon, it's all about fun

>>3247626
>just do drugs and you'll fit right in

>>3247626

I'll probably have a couple Guinness

>>3247629
>implying pinball and beer isn't an amazing combo

>>3247632
Do it. The first people I've made decent friends with since I moved here have been pinball players, it's easier to socialize when you have a good common ground like pinball in my oPINion

>>3247658
if you want to do drugs, help yourself. If you want to push your drugs on others, go fuck yourself. Simple, really

>>3247671
I bet you're a real ball of fuckin joy to be around

>>3247680
>but drugs, man. You just have to take the stuff I take, or you're inferior as a person
listen to yourself

>>3247683
>but StraightEdge, man. You just have to abstain from all substances and inflict violence on any people you see consuming nicotine, alcohol, or any other psychoactive substances while you listen to shitty punk music, or you're inferior as a person and I will inflict violence on you
listen to YOURself

>>3247683

Alcohol is the lightest drug on the market though

>>3247713
>but StraightEdge, man
I don't give a shit what you take. I care that you're trying to make others take your shit. That's the difference. YOU are trying to recommend drug usage to someone else. I am not recommending abstinence to anybody

>>3247715
You're joking, right? That shit is vile. The only reasons it's legal are historical and cultural. In sheer abuse potential and damage it's way out there with some of the harder drugs

reminder to report and hide

>>3247720
>>3247683
>Have a beer or two IF you drink
>Forcing drug use on people
Dude. Relax, the guy said he was probably going to have some Guinness, nobody needs your moral high ground shit.

>>3247835
>high ground
there you go again talking about drugs

>>3247729
Kys

What's the fucking deal with this new janny encroaching upon our pinball thread?
Holy fuckballs you reportfags are pathetic.

>>3248631
>>>/sthg/

>>3248632
That's not even a real thing you goober

>>3247502
>Burning a pin
>Any year after 2007
What kind of INSANITY

>>3240696

Not financially sound. It'd cost at least $3k to make a genuine EM.

Meanwhile, you can buy perfectly fine used EMs for $400-700 fully working and in decent shape.

Maybe Pinball General can help.

When I was but a wee lad, I was taken to my local arcade with my family. I didn't really get the chance to play much, but I did try a pinball table. I don't remember the name or anything, just vaguely that on the table itself was a large graphic of lots of money and maybe a guy in a suit.

I wish I could offer more memories, but that's all I can recall. It wasn't any newer than 1993, I'm pretty sure though.

>>3250591
that's very vague

>>3250591
Millionaire, perhaps?

TX Tx tx tx

>>3202702
>>3202575
god, boy is this some disgusting cynical marketing.

>>3206298
it's been over 20 years now, I think they probably just figure most people have forgotten about the incident and those who haven't most likely have gotten over it.

>>3227883
That actually happened? I always thought that was an urban myth.

>>3250923
Well when they bring the Noid back, maybe another nutball with the same name will step out of the woodworks

Where can I inquire about the moderation of this board without getting banned?

Pic is of Williams' Comet from 1985. 8,100 units of this solid state electronic pinball were made

>>3251517
Cyclone>Hurricane>Comet

>>3250878
This table is hilariously bad. I can't believe they actually thought this was a good choice to end the season with.

>>3251517
Great game. From that same year, Space Shuttle and Sorcerer are also cool.

My Sopranos high score is slowly being bumped, been #1 for about 3 weeks which is pretty good, the machine gets alot of action, bumped back to 3rd rank bow. Only machine I've been #1 on for a decent time period

>>3251852
The bonus becomes the highest scoring thing on the table after you max out the megalevel a number of times.

I gotta figure out when draining on purpose becomes the right answer versus shooting a lit spinner

>>3251517
>>>/q/ or >>>/qa/ I forget which one is the feedback board

>>3252168
>draining on purpose
I tend to do this on T2 during the Multiball, if I can lock two in, I just let the third roll on so I can get the 2x jackpot, instead of fumbling for the 3x

Is pinball more of a western thing? Haven't seen any discussion or heard of any Asian pinball tables.

>>3252480
>Is pinball more of a western thing?
Definitely. Sega and Capcom had short-lived pinball divisions, but even they were based in America. If there exist any pinball machines made for eastern audiences, I'd like to see it.

>>3252480
There's a pinball arcade in japan called THE SILVER BALL which is apparently the only one of its kind. Never seen or heard of a Asian made pinball table tho

>>3252480
Sega of Japan made pinball in the early seventies. The EM tables are quite rare

>>3252551
I saw on Game Center CX that there are some Japanese game centers with pinball, as well as some small ones dedicated to pinball and other mechanical games.

Soviet pinball

Aussie pinball

>>3252480
Data East made a game called Kabuki for the chairman of Namco as a gift since he was fighting off an aggressive case of cancer.

I think it's still at the Namco building.

>>3253221
Every pinball machine in a GCCX episode is American-made

>>3253957
We don't care about that cuck here, back to your weeb thread friendo.

>>3253957
I know, just saying that there are places in Japan to play pinball.

>>3253221
are there japanese-themed machines?

>>3254095
Are you retarded?

>>3254101
I quoted the wrong post, was meant to be >>3252551

I am not asking for japan-made machines, just the theme.
You're needlessly rude, fuckwad

>>3254108
American made-Japanese themed tables? Or just Jap looking stuff like >>3253215 ?

>>3254116
made by anybody (american, europe, anything goes), and using japanese themes, or if necessary, japanese cliches. samurai, sakura, yakuza, zen garden stuff, folklore, etc

>>3254124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38UF533WlCs

>>3212228
Are you in Mesa AZ by any chance?

What's your favorite Data East game, /pin/? Yeah, yeah, not as good as WMS, but they're still cool. Pic related was the first machine I actually learned the rules and objective to when I was a kid, as opposed to just aimlessly hitting the ball.

>>3254124

(In all seriousness though, Bushido is the only one I can think of)


>>3254350
I played that game at the PHoF and the lights and sounds were really awesome. I'd love to play a fully-working one someday.

My fav DE is probably Batman, that game needs to be set up hard but it is really awesome when set up fast and hard enough.

>>3254056
Arino fucks his wife. No one else does. Fuck off back to one of you 17 AVGN threads with your cuck kind.

>>3254350
Does that game have any Sweet Jumps like Robocop?

>>3196747
>that indie cab with the big ark of the covenant

fuck that table because I always lose balls there

>>3196478
>GARRRRGH PEOPLE ARE LIKING THINGS I DON'T LIKE AND THIS MAKES ME SO ANGRY

>>3247595

This anon here.

I went to the meetup. First time playing on actual tables. Everyone was very friendly as fuck.

It was insanely fun. Now im sad the meets are only once every 2/3 months and wont get to play again for a while. Pinball rules.

>>3255285
I think you read that comment out of context, I think he was saying it in a positive manner

>>3255294
Where do you live?
Aren't there any places around you where you can play?

>>3254350
It's busted as hell, but I have huge nostalgia for Star Wars. The toys, the music, it's all pure spectacle.

>>3255732
Ireland.

There apparently like 6 tables in the entire country (in arcades/bars. Not counting privately owned obviously).

3 of which are the same Simpsons table and a CSI table which has a broken kickback that effectively ends the game as the ball never returns.

>>3255890
That story sounds like my hometown back home. I'm sorry Irish bro

>The only reason that I frequently go to a local movie theater was the Shrek pinball.
>Now is gone.
F

>>3256296
Kek, my local has 4 tables.

>>3256296
>Hey look it's the fat virgin who always hangs around playing Shrek pinball
>HEY ANON. YOUR TIME HERE IS OGRE

>>3256296
A local movie place had the X-Men table, I think I was the only one who played it. Now there's a Guitar Hero in its place.
At least here in Sydney there's plenty of places to play pinball still.
There were 2 Elviras last time I checked in Manly now just a Spiderman.