/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3168090

This would have saved Atari. It could have delayed the Jaguar too.

No. I was six and didn't have credit cards.

>>3168090
That thing has woefully small amounts of memory.

8kbyte PCM sound ram, what the hell. That 1/4th of the SNES.

>>3168114
If you were an adult in 1991.
I was 1, but I would have bought it.

>atari
>videogames

choose 1.

atari apologists really need to get >>>/out/

>>3168124

Look at it's fucking other sound specs.

>>3168090
what games did it have? any jrpgs?

>>3168125
Oh, well still no. In 1991 I was quite happy playing Turtles 2 on my NES.

>>3168135
The only games developed for it were ported over to the Jaguar, and horribly so.
You know them as Cybermorph, Trevor McFur in the Crescent Galaxy and Raiden

>>3168134
>Look at it's fucking other sound specs.

What about them? If it doesn't have enough sound ram to store PCM samples in, then it has to stream samples from the cart, which limits its capabilities greatly.

No, because I passed on every Atari.

>>3168135
>what games did it have? any jrpgs?
STOP POSTING DURING CLASS

>>3168090
Are you the guy I took pics of my Jaguar for? I assume so. You said you were going to actually build one. What are you going to use for guts?

>>3168178
>>3168135
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Atari_ST_games
Theoretically it would have been compatible with the entire ST library plus standardized the "Blossom" video card allowing for fully SNES tier games to be developed - and simple support for a later cd peripheral

It's fun to speculate in this "saving Atari" especially when looking back at the colossal failure of the Jaguar but in reality it would have just been another console with limited success following Atari's long running console philosophy.

>Atari 5200: Consolized (crippled) 8-bit computer at a lowered (but not low enough) price point that few developers even bothered porting to
>Atari 7800: Enhanced 2600 with backward compatibility that arrived too late and saw little development
>Atari XEGS: Actually a good idea being a full-featured 8-bit computer at a reasonable retail price just way too late

They should have released the 7800 when they released the 5200, and the XEGS/5200 after that. 1991 would have been pretty late for Panther as Genesis and SNES were already firmly installed. They tried to get ahead with Jaguar which was a make-it or break-it risk and it just didn't work out. There might have been room in the market for it had there been no Playstation but it still would've been behind Nintendo and Sega, despite beating even crazy bleeding edge Sega to market.

>>3168132
This. Thank you.

Atari killed gaming until Nintendo and Sega cleaned that mess up.

>>3168925
That only happened in the US. Just because burgers imploded their own market doesn't mean the rest of the world was equally retarded.

>>3168939
>muh spectrum games on audio cassettes
Frankly I'd rather be dead

>>3168941
Boy, I wonder what videogame markets there are other than the US and Europe?

>>3168946
>muh rebranded colecovision
You need to realize that up until the crash, only the US made good video games. Atari may have been too greedy and their hubris opened up space in the market but if you think there were decent games coming from anywhere other than the US until that time you're the retarded one.

>>3168952

>>3168952
This, with the exception of Namco arcade games. Sega was actually owned and operated by Americans until the late 80s.

>>3168952
Too bad the greatest game of all time Tetris isn't from the USA making all your opinions ivalid

>>3168963
>tetris is the greatest game of all time
t. posted from my iphone

>>3168963
>Tetris was before the crash
>what am reading comprehension
>totally not underage guise

>>3168969
The crash is something only burger babies think was significant to the world.

>>3168973
It's like I'm talking to a wall that parrots memes

>>3168975
Look man just because you think every game in the 80s was made in the USA and the rest of the world was frozen in time isn't my problem. Stay retarded.

>>3168985
We're talking about home video game consoles, not arcade machines. You can try to include home computer gaming if you want since it sucked except for possibly Commodore which was American anyway.

The plain and simple fact is that if it wasn't for the crash there would have never been space in the market for Japanese consoles and soon there will no longer be again

>>3169001
Look the simple fact the NES was out in japan in the same year your precious crash occurred proves that gaming wasn't dead like you claim.

>>3169012
I never made that claim, my argument is that the crash affected the console industry on a global scale. It was GOOD for the Japanese companies obviously and none more so than Nintendo for the exact, somewhat coincidental reason you posted. They had a good product but what was far and away more important was that they released it at exactly the right time.

>>3168090
Hell no, 2600 is the only "good" tv console from atari.

Depends, I'm a cheapskate who rarely buys systems or games new.

I might have bought it in 94-95 if it had games that I wanted.

This is also assuming that it would be current me and not young me back in 1992.

>>3169103
I beg to differ, The 2600 was undoubtedly the most popular home console by Atari, but both the 5200 and 7800 are technologically superior.
Given the same variables that allowed the 2600 to proliferate, I believe that the 52 & 78 would be even greater, due to their tech specs.

Just think about it, other than the sound, the 7800 is equally as good, if not better than the NES.

>>3169114
>Just think about it, other than the sound, the 7800 is equally as good, if not better than the NES.

Post game footage which supports this claim.

I say the 7800 is 2nd gen system. It's just an upgraded 2600 in the same way the Sega Master System is an upgraded SG-1000.

The 5200 is a 3rd gen system IMO. It's just a gimped Atari 8bit computer. Such computers competed with the Commodore 64 which is known to be 3rd gen.

>>3169152
That's just it, there isn't game footage. That's what my clause about 'if the variables were the same'. The 7800 has more powerful hardware, but due to lack of support, none of the games I can think of even rivaled their NES versions.
If the 7800 had proper support, it could have at least matched the NES as far as title complexity and achievement goes

>>3168094
No it couldn't. Atari failed in the end because they couldn't get good developer support. If it came out it would have failed just as had as Jaguar.

>>3169252
Ok, show me the game that pushed the 7800 to its limits in graphics, sound, and mode of play (3rd gen paradigm instead of 2nd gen).

>>3168090
I was an embryo for just about the final 1/6th of 1991. Parasitic cell clumps don't really have much use for consumer electronics, I'm afraid.

>>3169641
>Parasitic cell clumps don't really have much use for consumer electronics, I'm afraid.
You'd think so, and yet /v/ still gets quite a lot of traffic

>>3169737

>>3168961
>This, with the exception of Namco arcade games.

And Taito, whose Space Invaders caused a nationwide coin shortage in Japan.

>>3169365
On that point, I don't have any examples. I feel that there weren't any games that really pushed it's limits, which is my point as far as why it never really flexed it's muscles.
Tech spec wise, it is on par with the NES.
Titlewise? It doesn't hold a candle to it. I feel that that's the one thing holding it back; it never really got the support it needed.

>>3169325
Atari failed because it disappeared during the 90s and Sega and Nintendo took over. It sold pretty fucking well with the 7800 despite it's really limited release in the late 80s.

>>3169365
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ8qNjya0B0

When he eats, his head animates/opens up with a tongue, etc.

Big deal for the time, animation in sprites.

I want all the NES babies to die

>>3168090
>320x320 pixels non interlaced

>>3170756
why so salty bro?