/vr/ - Retro Games

===NEWS===

[04-15] Dark Arena textures
>>3140694
https://www.sendspace.com/file/o3q2av
>>3136407
https://www.sendspace.com/file/vf82gq
>>3136294
https://www.sendspace.com/file/frk027

[04-14] "If Doomguy was a Mechwarrior"
>>3139285
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-8CI1XbGPk

[04-14] Anon mod release: "replaces chaingunners with super shotgun guys"
>>3139040
http://www.mediafire.com/download/0ha6xri3dcdh529/SSGGUNNER.wad

[04-11] kLazer - 3d laser beam
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=896568#p896568

[04-10] The /newstuff Chronicles #491 and #492
https://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4565
https://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4567

[04-10] Gun Godz v1.0 released
>>3129623
http://www.mediafire.com/download/u5j7esu7q56xz7f/GunGodz1.0.zip

[04-08] Durex Waste Disposal updated
>>3122797
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u1ja3syodz63t7n/CLOSETV3.wad

[04-07] 3DO Doom overclocked
https://youtu.be/dfNBQU2xjAI

[04-07] Anon mod release: gachigasms.wad
>>3121301
http://www.mediafire.com/download/fqbpf73xt3sprl5/gachigasms.wad

[04-06] DUMP 2 Test Build 2
>>3119065
https://www.dropbox.com/s/io1py7ymv6kd9vr/DUMP-2-test2.pk3

[04-05] Anon mod release: Liebenberg Arms Bushland Pistol
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6s0f6m8757as1my/LiebenbergArmsBushlandPistol.wad

[04-04] Anon map release: wheresmyshotgun.wad (updated)
>>3115529
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4mwJRa7e5VpM1RKWlNTTVRyUDQ/view

[04-04] DTWID Lost Episodes (E1-E6) released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1130238

[04-02] Japanese Doom Community Project v1.0 released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1583715

[04-01] Anon map release: Pyramid Complex (nyan.bsp, for Quake 2)
>>3108059
http://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/nyan.zip

[04-01] John Carmack To Be Honoured With BAFTA Fellowship
http://www.bafta.org/press/press-releases/john-carmack-to-be-honoured-with-bafta-fellowship

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The Original's Decal blood looks so much more brutal than any of the silly over the top blood found in fan mods.

>>3140826
droplets m8

>Thy Flesh Consumed

HELP

>>3140850
install gitgud

>>3140850

Learn the map. Die a lot. I can do the whole episode with pistol start and no saving now. It is actually hard.

>get multi rockets
>still have 200 red armor
>mfw the sequence breaking potential

>>3140850
It's hard because of the people complaining back in the day that Doom was too easy even on UV. So they decided to make Nightmare! a thing and add E4, just to give your ass a good beating. Also as an incentive to make people buy the boxed version of Doom 1 from stores.

>>3140876

>'better save special ammo for a rainy day'
>beat the first episode with 100/100 multi rocket ammo
>only used it once or twice ever

>>3140893
I used it literally every single time on everything whenever I got a chance to.

>>3140897
Yeah with Quake, you tend to get so much ammo that conserving it's pointless.

Especially rockets. So many fucking rockets.

>>3140898
I'm always surprised with how many rockets I end up having at some points because my favorite weapon to use are the nailguns.

>>3140898
So many rockets!

>implying I'm gonna deal with that tiny hallway key bullshit

Speeding through stuff is fun but my autism forces me to play slow and steady like normal.

>>3140926
Rocket jumping like a pro.
An unrelated thought too, Quake had some really good sound design. The sounds everything makes is great. I especially love picking up ammo, health, armor and keys.

>try doom open beta
>I'm getting 10fps and lower
>in the menu

holy fuck how is the game this unoptimized

>>3140943
Well, it IS a Bethesda game basically. They're always unoptimized and buggy on release.

>>3140945
>on release only

Thanks anon, I had a rough day

>>3140938
Quake's sounds are really underrated. I can understand that some people aren't fans of the more ambient, broody soundtrack (compared to Doom's), but all the pickups are fantastic, the enemies are just as great across the board (is there any sound more deliciously chunky than the one zombies make when gibbed?) and the powerups are WWWSSHHZHZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

>>3140938

Well, it's Nine Inch Nails' work after all.

>>3140953
consider the number of nineties doom wads what ripped the sounds from quake wholesale

Last night I had a dream I was playing a Quake version of Congestion 1024. Like the Doom equivalent, the maps were restricted to 1024x1024x1024 map units. This morning I googled around to see if it actually exists, I was disappointed to find out it does not. I've never done Quake mapping, but judging from some Trenchbroom screenshots I assume 1024 map units would be actually too small for Quake.

While I don't remember the exact details of the few maps I "played" (hard to say what you do in dreams), I remember them being detailed to hell and back. There was a forest with mossy ground, trees and rivers with flowing water. There was a castle that was floating in mid-air (and it had a basement) with a destroyed drawbridge I somehow had to get across and open the portcullis. Something red hell-ish. There was a bottomless pit where I fell once and had to restart the level. There also was an invisible barrier I could not pass.

There were some new enemies too. I can recall something that looked like a wolf and they hunted in large packs. And miniature flying Shamblers (they had wings). The weapon I used most of the time was an automatic rocket launcher (think assault rifle, but replace the bullets with rockets), I had tens of thousands of rockets so I didn't have to worry about running out of ammo.

I'm genuinely disappointed that this map pack does not exist. It should. I'd play it.

>>3140943
>>3140945

Carmack heading out hit them this hard, huh? :^)

>>3140943
>https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-2016-general/87279-nvidia-driver-hotfix-for-doom-2016-also-adds-sli-support-menu-lag-fix-fps-fixes/

Is there a way to create a powerup that shows enemy movement on the minimap? There's something very specific I want to emulate. I've been taking a great deal of notes from this game and I think I want to make my main mod a more slow and strategic one like Covert Action.

He thinks he's people

>>3140850
iddqd idkfa tbqh

I've been seeing some dudes making some fucking rad voxel models in their mods and I've gotta get in on this shit.

How2voxels?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44lhqrsUTlo

>>3140976
>Not responding

>>3140983
what does the third one do?

>>3140969
bit late now, I already uninstalled this piece of crap

I spent a good three fucking minutes waiting for the bethesda logo cinematic - which I'm pretty sure is a pre-rendered video clip - to play, the first half of it was dedicated to it telling me that they fucked up nvidia driver support so hard that that was *expected*.

and then on the most boring menu screen ever, I was getting 20fps at half my native resolution with a painfully laggy mouse. once I set it to my native resolution, it dropped to under 10.

I downloaded 11GB for this? THIS is what modern AAA gaming is like?

>>3140965

I don't think I've ever seen a Quake map with trees, they'd probably look awful with how everything has to be low poly 3D

>>3140987
dank memes

>>3140953
I was saddened when I played that WAD that put Quake stuff/sounds in Doom and they didn't add the key pickup sounds.

>>3140990
>provides a solution
>'man this sucks so much Id rather worthlessly sulk about modern gaming instead of fixing my shit with said solution provided'
alright.

>>3140950
Well, not AS unoptimized and buggy after someone makes community patches for it. I expect some for D44M.

>>3141004
are you implying spending three minutes waiting for a 10 second video to play is excusable in any circumstance?

For some reason I spot a lot of weird enemy behavior today. This is possibly my first time of seeing monster engage combat with another one in Q2.

>>3141004
>>3141008
also according to one of my friends the driver update fixes absolutely nothing

>>3140992
Arcane Dimensions has some dead trees here and there. Dead trees obviously work better than alive trees for low poly stuff, but they're separate models attached to tree entities rather than actual brushwork so that's kind of cheating.

You could probably make trees look good if you went for a more stylized appearance, or just DIY'd a bunch of transparent textures for the leaves/arms/what have you.

>>3140965
Quake units are smaller (?) than Doom units- 1024 isn't very large at all. IIRC, Quake's stock map limitations are 4096 units in each direction from the origin (x,y,z) so 8192 units total if your map is perfectly centered, but a map that big has a good chance of tanking framerates (or at least used to, modern machines and engines should have no problem I assume).

The map in pic related is 1024x1024x1024, with the player spawning on a platform 512 units high and a helpful Shambler plunked in for scale. You might be able to squeeze a miniature puzzle map in that space, but you won't be doing much combat.

I'm interested in those maps, though. There's been a number of floating castles people have made maps about including ones with drawbridges you have to bypass to open (those show up in normal maps, too), but not many nature-styled maps to be found, probably due to the difficulty of making a good looking one.

>And miniature flying Shamblers (they had wings).
>so you want to kill yourself.png

>>3140975
Russian Overkill's computer map shows up the positions of monsters on the automap. Not sure if that's what you want but it's possible to have a powerup that shows monster positions like if you'd typed in iddt twice.

>>3140990
>I downloaded 11GB for this? THIS is what modern AAA gaming is like?
You're on the wrong board.

>>3141008
>>3141017
>doesn't even bother trying it out because hr eavesdropped in on his friend saying it supposedly didn't work when it does
>still complaining about the bug he didn't even bother fixing in the first place
ALRIGHT

>>3141017
Are you 12? Your post is "my dad works for nintendo"-tier. Go back to /v/.

>>3141027
well it's a bit hard to verify it when it's a 15GB download and I have to reinstall it

>>3141019
Or rather, to correct myself a bit: Quake's units are close/similar and lots of objects between games (as in stuff in maps made by id) are same or similar sizes (i.e. crates are reliably 64x64x64) but Quake's scale regarding players and enemies is all over the fucking place in relation to the environment.

Is Doomed: Doom WAD Reviews the only WAD reviewing site that's still going even as of this week? I'm loving this guy's review writing style.

This will end well

>>3140975
i don't think so?
but something you could do is have your enemies "drop" footstep actors that'd get rendered on the minimap

>>3141059
>>3141016

Just press Alt+PrntScrn bro

I find this extremely objectifying and problematic.

>>3141067
thanks

>>3141087
I find it boner-inducing.

>>3140984
it's not as hard as it sounds
you'll need magicavoxel to make the voxels and slab6 to convert them
just paste a sprite in magicavoxel's palette and then in the big block in the middle, then start building

uh... voxelbro has a much better tutorial on the zdoom forums

>>3141036
>>3141019
Yeah, I guess the maps would have to be bigger than that. Dreams are kinda wonky, so not everything I saw would fit in 1024x1024x1024.

But I wonder, would Congestion-style maps work in Quake?

>>3141087

Were there even female marines in Quake II?

>>3141104
Last stage of stroggification is hormone replacement therapy

Blurspheres suck.

>>3141115
>JUMPING

>>3141110

Conversion from male human to female cyborg is a pretty good fetish and I wish there were more material about it.

>>3141115
"stage"?

>>3141129
I guess it's what he calls a level

>>3141038
i assume you mean onemandoom -- i am not aware of any others, unless you count /newstuff

>>3141137
Well yeah, I guess that's him cause it's his URL. All the other ones aside from /newstuff have long since been dead. He has so many recommended WADs to review I hope he doesn't get burned out.

>>3141129
way formal and presentable than just flat out saying "map" or "level".

>>3141096
I'd be surprised if no one has made a sizelimit based Quake mapping competition. You can fit more in a small space in Quake than you can in Doom, at least, due to the abilities of true 3d- i.e. say you want two paths to lead into a room, then have the player drop down into that room and go through the door. You can have those two paths branch out directly into the room itself without making the room any smaller, and still have the player able to make full use of the space underneath the paths. My shitty Paint example hopefully helps explain what I mean.

Also I might be strange but I find brushes and func_ objects a lot easier to work with than sectors and linedefs.

>>3141104
They had a female player model added later but the singleplayer was all male marines.

>>3141126
There's material for it, period? I know there's one ancient thing involving the HL2 combine assassin

>>3141120

just 4 u

>>3141129

I like calling them stages

>>3141156
Cheeky fucker. Made me spit my drink a bit.

>>3141145

Is it bad I thought this was a loss edit at first?

>>3141164
The memes are taking over your life.

>>3141150
>semen demon in space

>>3140945
It's not developed by Bethesda.

>>3141093
>>3140984
please don't, voxels are violently unoptimized in GZDoom

>>3141184
i've been using the voxelpack, DRLA, the DD flashlight and a small addon that turns the modpacks in voxels on huge oblige maps in GZdoom and never had any issues
are you sure it's not just your computer?

>>3141187
My computer isn't exactly top notch, but GZDoom is already pretty poorly optimized, and it really doesn't handle voxels well in my opinion

>>3141164
yes and you should feel bad

>>3141192
r_drawvoxels 0
enjoy your sprites

>>3141087
speaking of

>>3141059
Say what you will about Quake 2's quality compared to quake and doom, had some nice actual bosses

>>3141187
GZDoom renders every voxel as a separate 3D model. Every actual model has hundreds of them. In a room with lot of voxelized stuff, FPS takes a dip from 300-400 fps down to 25-30

>>3141201
The end boss is pretty underwhelming though. It has 3k health while the hornet miniboss has 2k and can fly. Even the walking tanks has 1.5k, and it's not uncommon to meet two and even three at the same time in the final episode.

>>3141021
I'll check it out when I get home, that might be what I want.
>>3141065
Those can show up? That might be a great approach, especially if I can figure out some sort of sound radius system.

"I'm kind of a big deal"

t. small and weak enemy

>>3141203
Wow, it renders each block as a fucking model? I think I'm better off making some low poly sexiness instead of voxels for my mod.

>>3141203
wow that sounds pretty bad. however as i understand it, they just fixed something to make blade of agony performant. so maybe voxels performance will get fixed when a sufficiently high profile voxel heavy project is released?

>>3141194
I typically go one step further and delete voxel models and the voxel definitions from .wads and .pk3s so that I don't have to do that.

Ayylmao it's not a wall at all it's justs a texture you can walk through with the blue key behind it what great leveldesign.

>>3141203
>GZDoom renders every voxel as a separate 3D model
That's unbelievably retarded, why wouldn't Grafh put in REAL voxel support instead of doing THIS?

>>3141120
There is literally nothing wrong with jumping.

verticality did nothing wrong

>>3141260
Zdoom renders voxels too. I wonder if it does it the same way gzdoom does?

Would you rather:

a. be alcoholic

b. have every remnant of the Doom franchise erased from reality

Is it more efficient ammo wise to use the BFG or Plasma rifle?

>>3141285
Alcoholic, I can deal with that.

>>3141286

it varies. honestly. the plasma gun excels in stunlocking bitches and laying out the hurt on wimpy crowds.

General room of thumb: Don't be shy to use the plasma gun but keep at least 80 cells handy for two BFG blasts for emergency,

>>3141286
it depends on something like if what you're trying to kill has more or less than 800 health

i still think the plasma gun is the best "oh shit i'm suddenly surrounded by chaingunners" panic weapon

>>3141285

Way ahead of you, mate, it's 2 PM and I'm already smashed.

>>3141286
BFG damage varies quite dramatically, but assuming proportional distribution etc the BFG.

>>3141182
But muh narrative

>>3141260
Probably because nobody used voxels when that feature was used, and the only way to render voxels before was tied with the software rendering behaviour.

Kaiser implemented a proper sprite rendering in GL in Strife Veteran Edition (source is open botw, idk why nobody backported the feature into GZDoom) - way for sprites to not clip into geometry, instead being rendered over everything else. I wager parts of that code would've been useful for proper voxel rendering.

>>3141275
ZDoom renders voxel properly (IIRC it uses BUILD code for that), so they not only look better, but also work faster than in GZ.

>>3141286
it depends on the situation and what kind of efficiency you are looking for, as ever.

>>3141285
Alcoholic. Why would I want one of my favorite games removed from reality?

I knew the flickering lights meant something, but I thought that it was pointing me to jump in the pool and look for the secret in the water below the metal bars. I didn't notice that there were little steps alongside the bars that you were meant to climb on, the flickering light obfuscated them.

I still haven't learned to spot secrets that involve little steps and slightly protruding platforms because those kinds of secrets were very rare in Doom. And now that I've been playing Quake, I end up constantly looking at the ceiling for buttons to shoot when I go back to playing Doom.

>>3141358
Quake secrets mostly seem to be about shooting switches or walls half the time.

Q2 > HL1

>>3141363

I agree only on the grounds that the crowbar is shit whereas the blaster pistol is pretty okay.

>>3141363
The ebin intro and not-cutscene-cutscenes take HL vanilla from a 9 to like 7.5 for me. If I wanted an RPG I'd play an RPG ffs.

>>3141359
not a lot of other ways to interact with the environment, given removal of the Use key.

Is there a good game breaking gun mod ? Think Russian Overkill but without the shitty model rips as sprites. And maybe reloading. I really like reloading for some reason.

I've just replayed through the entirety of doom 1 & 2 and I need to unwind by ripping and tearing through slaughterwads with ridiculously overpowered guns.

>>3141253
wait till you play archaeologist's nightmare

>>3141368
>not-cutscene-cutscenes

I really hate those. And I don't want some guy talking in my ear forcing me to stop doing whatever I'm doing so that I can listen to what he's saying, either.

Just give me logs I can read/listen/watch at my leisure and skippable cutscenes.

>>3141379

Project MSX, though the new monsters will probably give you a run for your money.

Combined_Arms has some retarded guns but only the pistol reloads, and automatically at that.

>>3141368
The only thing that made those bearable was Doctor Hal voicing the scientists.

>>3141379
>sv_fastweapons 2
>sv_infiniteammo 1
>cheat a BFG
>Go to town

>>3141391
Yeah, maximum nostalgia.

>>3141368

I dunno man I remembered those cutscenes being way more entertaining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiPaWqI02Yk

>>3141379
doomRLA (out of all things) has a few alternate gamemodes that makes the big guns spawn a lot more often

>>3141386
MSX indeed has very satisfying mass slaughter weaponry. Dem fuckin fastball grenades

>>3141379
Speaking of which, I already created the assets for this mod, I only need to know how to properly execute my planned idea.

Need advice.

http://strawpoll.me/7377939

>>3141442
just make sure you give the player a good melee weapon incase they run out of ammo

>>3141450
You the game with both a melee weapon capable of insta-killing Demons slowly and a semi-automatic pistol with a very high RoF capable of killing a Baron Of Hell in 15-20 shots.

>>3141442

Eh.. I dunno man, does that mean that, if I run out of ammo for my weapon of choice, I have to backtrack trough the level to find another one ? That sounds kind of unappealing.

>>3141484
There's a powerup that refills your current weapon's ammo and is rarely spawned from any Ammo actor. Guaranteed drop from a Backpack actor.

If you run out of ammo for your favorite weapon, pray for it to appear again. Sorry that's the way it will be. I'll be tinkering with the drop rates so you rarely have the need to backtrack.

What I can do for your situation is create a CVAR that gives you infinite ammo and another one to have you spawn with your favorite weapon.

>>3141156
It's that joke where you know it's coming, but you can't wait for it to hit, so it's even funnier when it happens.

>>3141363
I love Quake 2, but I think Half-Life is better.

Any love for Kingpin?

>>3141621
FUCKER

>>3141156
I'm dying lol

>>3141156
TRIGGERED

1. Why hasn't anyone added Archvilles to PSX DOOM TC?

2. Why is my registration to doomworld taking a week? Should I retry it?

>>3141670
>2. Why is my registration to doomworld taking a week? Should I retry it?

Hmm...a long shot in the dark, what e-mail provider did you used?

>>3141621
I was just about to ask that. I think the maps are fucking great in both theme and play, but the guns an enemy variety leave some to be desired. Also the follower AI is extremely good considering how old the game is.

Shame the game only turned out to be a shadow of what it was originally supposed to be. Damned budget cuts.

>Based BBC
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36052742

>>3141713
Oh my god that's TERRIBLE!!!
There are adults in Japan that wanna look like CHILDREN????

>>3141713
>41%
Embarassing

Going through Plutonia. Chain gunners are responsible for 100% of my deaths. Nothing else can touch me.

Hell should just abandon demons and have chain gunner armies.

>>3141680

gmail.

>>3141713
Wow Merkel is a fucking cunt seriously

>>3141721
>WAD gets made where every enemy in the game uses a gatling gun

>>3141717
In JAPAN??

>>3141713
I really hope the single player is gonna be at least playable. I hope it isn't just gonna be a demonically-skinned Halo.

>>3141720
I guess it's good enough that this many people like it.

I'm still waiting for more singleplayer stuff, because who gives a fuck about multiplayer

>>3141724
No news there.

>>3141784
41% is unbelievably terrible for Steam reviews. It might as well be a 0.

How dodge skelly rockets??

>>3141804
Dodge the dummy rockets like an imp fireball.
Run behind cover to blow up the homing rockets.

>>3141803
Also keep in mind an agglomeration of studios the size of id and Beth probably keep a regular army of upvoting shills. It's probably more like 4.1% in legit ratings.

>>3141815
>>3141803
I wasn't outright defending it.

Also I'll be holding out judgment for singleplayer, the part of the game that actually matters.

>>3141838
>deathmatch doesn't matter in the franchise that coined the term
This is what the Doom 4 defense force actually believes.

>>3141841
To be fair, the connection between Doom '16 (I'm not calling it Doom 4) and the rest of the franchise is like chalk and cheese.

>>3141804
run forwards and to the side at the same time so they curl behind you and smack a wall

http://esolangs.org/wiki/AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Has this been mentioned here before?

>>3141739
There is , it's called ballistics

>>3141897
Sounds truly hellish.

>>3141841
I'm just not a multiplayer guy.
I understand the importance of multiplayer being good, but I've never played Doom for that purpose, so what matters to me personally is the single player, and that alone, it's not the end of the world to me if the MP sucks if the SP is good enough.

I never really cared for OG Doom's deathmatch, but I think the game is still fantastic.

>defense force
Please don't do that.

>>3141846
Doom 3 had only some thematic connection to the previous ones, I didn't mind that, Doom 4 is just that notion again.

Likewise, Quake, Quake 2, and Quake 3 had some very insubstantial connections.

>>3141885
i'm getting flashbacks of term's stream

not pleasent ones
because he can't play for shit :^)

>>3141902
Not really, since it doesn't actually replace all enemies with chaingunners, it just makes all monsters (and weapons) with hitscanners. Just search the ZDoom forums for it and see for yourself.

>>3141906

you're either a good doom coder
or a good doom mapper
or a good doom player

no inbetween

>>3141914
coder master race

>>3141914
I'd argue its more of a triangle where you can be two of those but not 3.

>>3141804

Play some punch out with those nerds and beat them 2 the punch !!!

Is Brutal Half-Life any good or is it Brutal Doom-tier of stupidity?

>>3141931

And even then, you can't really be two of them very well, you just kind of reach a middlin' point between them. i.e. okay mapper and okay coder, or nonexistent mapper but okay coder and fantastic player.

>>3141914
I'm mediocre at all of those things.

>we want the doom babby audience

He wears a fedora unironically.

>>3142079
more like "we want the XXXxxxCoDrektPuSsySlAyErBLAZEIT420[PGM]XXXxxx audience"

>>3142094

Yeah, but he's retarded and thinks they're the same thing.

>>3141914
But what if I'm good at making Doom sprites and textures?

>>3142115
>>3141914

I think we can simplify it even further to just two sides: Doom stuff creator or Doom stuff player.

>>3142079

Thanks, doc.

>>3142079
I know nothing of the marketing of Doom 4, but I guess that makes sense. The ~21 and under crowd is probably much more fertile selling grounds than the very late 20s/early 30s to 50s crowd who actually played the game back in the 90s.

so how about that D44M singleplayer eh?

>>3142146
41%

>>3142098
lol you fags are even worse, actually

you're like a pretentious version of them with no self awareness

>>3142156
ok, BANG

>>3142150
>singleplayer

>>3142156
anon you're actively ruining the thread's mood so that you can pretend to be superior to an imagined "doom babby"

you're the worst thing here

>>3142159
Stop responding to him. I'm not fucking kidding.

>>3142160
>41%

>>3142163
lol

>>3142146
100% community-supplied and the news will be delivered via compliments toward the doom modding community, something like

We at Bethesda have seen how expansive and creative the Doom community is and has decided to supply you all with professional level development tools for creating entire campaigns for Doom that you can share and play with your friends.

Pirate Doom is severely overrated

Why are people discussing a 2016 game on /vr/ despite there being a perfectly serviceable thread on page 1 of /v/ complete with dank memes and shittalking?

>>3142175

OVERrated? It barely gets promoted outside the community, and nobody actually bothered to take the author's suggestion and play it like a regular gameplay mod.

>>3142179
It gets mentioned in almost any big YT reviewer top-five-Doom-mods type list. It's like second only to BD.

>>3142178
>complete with dank memes and shittalking

there's your reason

>>3142185

show me those videos right now

>>3142186
Which is precisely what this thread devolves into when said game is brought up. So let's keep this bs where it belongs.

>>3142191
Not him but where can I discuss the new Doom? /v/ will just repeat the same three or four lines over and over and accuse half the people in the thread of being a paid shill

>>3142190
Two I found in random search:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMcX8LMmxrc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW7jqnOMPQw

It's also brought up in all sorts of LPs and general wankery vids. PD gets a lot of exposure famino.

>>3141968
>nonexistent mapper but okay coder and fantastic player.
literally me

send help

>>3142204
As has been stated elsewhere, /vr is not a dumping ground for things that people claim /v is unwilling to discuss or at leas unwilling to discuss at a level up to the poster's standards. I mean, the damn game isn't even out yet, how does it belong on a board dedicated to pre-2000 system games?

>>3142209
>It's also brought up in all sorts of LPs and general wankery vids.

show me those videos too. you could find two vids with 40k views in 8 minutes, it shouldn't be hard to find the rest

>>3142217
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=%22pirate+doom%22&sp=CAM%253D

>1,360 results

Good enough?

Did John Romero make you his bitch?

>>3142225

wow...

>>3142230
>mfw my first gameplay exposure to that game was playing the N64 version on an emulator when i was little

>>3142240
The horror.

>>3142240
>dat filename

>>3142225

and what do they have to do with pirate doom being "overrated"? (which it isn't)

it hardly gets mentioned in these threads, and when you look up demonsteele in youtube it shows almost the same amount of results

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22demonsteele%22

>1,840 results

does that make demonsteele overrated too?

now, since two can play the same game, let's take a look at smooth doom on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22smooth+doom%22

>1,150 results

not the same amount of results, but from my (shitty) point of view, smooth doom is a bit overrated due to the fact that some people picked that mod after the whole brutal dumb fiasco and it unintentionally became the 'politically correct' alternative of a "gameplay enhancer" mod for a game that still holds up well after 20+ years.

does that make me right?

>>3142263
>smooth doom is a bit overrated due to the fact that some people picked that mod after the whole brutal dumb fiasco and it unintentionally became the 'politically correct' alternative of a "gameplay enhancer" mod for a game that still holds up well after 20+ years.
Is that really the case?
I reckon the people who use SD weren't the usual BD crowd to begin with.

>>3142263
I don't Brutal Doom mentioned here very often toi, actually. Or any gameplay mods, come to think of it. /vr/ seems to be mostly into maps and vanilla/chocolate gameplay.

Finally Bethesda/Neo-id get what they deserve
>Mostly Negative Steam Reviews
>People once interested now hating it
>Non-stop Halo comparisons
>Poor performance through all 3 test phases.
JUST FUCK MY REBOOT UP

>>3142273
i think your impression is very mistaken. a significant fraction of doom threads are people asking for help making gameplay mods, and half the maps made by anons and posted here require zdoom.

>>3142275
So the franchise is finally dead. RIP Dewm.

Zenimax is going to close down id software for good if Doom 4 flops. And by many looks it just could. So say goodbye to id software..

>>3142293
new id is just tarnishing the name of old id
and I hate Tim Willits, seriously fuck that guy

>>3142273
>Or any gameplay mods, come to think of it.
>/vr/ seems to be mostly into maps and vanilla/chocolate gameplay.

I can safely say you've arrived in a different "season", to put it that way. Most of the people who browse these threads do like gameplay mods and play around with them a lot in single and multiplayer. There's a reason why the general population in Doomworld were "surprised" when 200 Minutes of /vr/ was released, because there was a certain concept of these threads back in the day.

This is also the reason why a certain shitposting charade that says that this place hates bd "because they're purists" always falls flat like a fat lady after stepping on wet floor.

>>3142293
so?
best thing that could happen would be Romero buying the rights and actually doing good games

>>3142293

It's like when a band is past their prime and breaking up is the best thing they could do.

Much like those 80s thrash bands that influenced them in the start, they shoulda fucking quit at least ten years ago, because they haven't done anything worthwhile in even longer than that.

The real id is already dead. Having its shambling zombie corpse put down too would finally put us at peace.

>>3142306

hold up, with all due respect I don't think Romero has the kind of money to buy back the rights of the game, let alone the whole company.

I'm not saying it can't happen or that it wouldn't be cool. But I'm afraid that's far from happening

What exactly are the mapping limits when mapping for Boom, in contrast to UDMF zdoom mapping or whatever.

Anybody got a link to some good websites for DOOM '16 leaks?
I heard there were some pics of the Archvile floating around, but I can't find any of these sites anywhere.
The Russian one, at least, is really in-active now.

>>3142320
65535 sidedefs

>>3142323
There hasn't been much new lately. Best I can give you in "recent leaks" is
https://www.reddit.com/r/Doomleaks/comments/4e2mif/some_bestiary_stuff_slight_spoilerish_if_you_dont/
and
https://www.reddit.com/r/Doomleaks/comments/4ecmcq/more_bestiary_codex_info/
>inb4 plebbit

>>3142293
I hope that they get sold off instead of shuttered.

>>3142275
>Poor performance through all 3 test phases

lol wut? Are those faggots playing on toasters?

>>3142079
/v/ a few months ago
>Wow it's brown n bloom piss filter there are no colors!
/v/ now
>Wow get rid of the colors only cod babies like those!

Not retro.

>>3142293
I honestly don't want this to happen, because the last thing I want is for DOOM, Wolf, and Quake's rights to be floating around in the air, and eventually die off and become lost like tears in the rain.

>>3142350
purchased by atari and un-open-sourced

>>3142350
Would you really prefer that Wolfenstein and Quake get the D44M treatment? Death is preferable to necromancy.

>>3142358
Machinegames is doing well with Wolfenstein, I doubt Zenimax would take it away from them even if id closed forever.

>>3142079
Wish there was a way to disable faggot armor and weapon colors

>>3142358
>new Quake is called QUAKE
>have to reload the nailgun
>axe is now a glory kill
>cutscenes galore
>somehow an ever shittier final boss than Shub Niggurath

>>3142365
Oh I forgot
>game is way slower than the original
>have to level up to become fast
>damage indicators

>>3142365
>>3142370
>the game is even more brown than it was before

>>3142370
>damage indicators

nothing wrong with those

>>3142363
The only problem I have with Machinegames' Wolfenstein entries is that there's no fucking Hitler. They had the perfect plot explanation for a Mecha Hitler fight in TNO and we got Mecha Some Other Asshole.

>>3142365
>Rocket/Grenade jumps are "quicktimeevents" like glory kills
>Rockets/Grenades only do like 5 damage to self now
>Somehow fucks up the lore by combining both quake 1 and 2
>Fuck it, throw some wolfenstein nazis in there.

>>3142375
>Somehow fucks up the lore by combining both quake 1 and 2

I dunno man, imagine Mecha Lovecraftian horrors. Could be pretty cool

>>3142370
Sorry, I don't know much about modern FPS, but "level up?" Hahaha, what?

>>3142372
Brown is so yesterday gramps, it's all about grey now

>>3142373
I don't want them cluttering up my screen.

>>3142379
>Final boss is robot cthulhu expy

>>3142374
I think Wolfenstein 3D is supposed to be in their timeline somewhere, so Mecha Hitler is already dead. Though I guess that doesn't make it any less of a missed opportunity.

>>3142365
>have to reload the nailgun
I like reloading

>>3142380
The new Shadow Warrior had that shit and I didn't like it.

I also didn't like the fucking "results" you got after a battle. This isn't Devil May Cry fuck off

>>3142375
>Hitler unwittingly attracts the attention of Shub-Niggurath with the Spear of Destiny and causes an invasion
>NuQuake takes place decades later at the final days of the Quake War where they throw you at it as a last ditch effort to save humanity
>Is also a prequel to Quake ET

>>3142389
Something tells me not many people play Wolfenstein for the plot.

>>3142394
>Then the Unheilige Armee Corps opens a gateway to hell

>>3142394
>>3142419
Sounds pretty good to me.

>>3142425
Yep, mee to

>>3142364
I would honestly like it if all the players had the classic simple armor on the whole match with the only difference being is team color to tell who's who.

Also the bloom is fucking up the wall and everywhere in the game

>>3142419
>deciding that earth wasn't big enough for the both of them, the hellspawn & strogg fought each other on earth, even taking to space for supremacy

>>3142430

wait, who made this?

>TFW Last generation computer can't handle the current generation doom

I need a slaughter map to drown my sorrows in.

>>3142340
read the reviews famalam
4 gig 770 here and I get poor performance
with latest id techs being iffy it's pretty easy to believe its unoptimized

>>3142562
Be happy, at least you won't spend shitmoney on a shitgame then. I have a voice telling me that it won't be so bad in the back of my mind despite overwhelming contrary evidence.

>>3142365
>it's renamed from Shub Niggurath to Shub Wrath because Niggurath comes to close to nigger
Something I'd imagine a modern game company doing

>>3142562
I'd recommend Hanging Gardens but it's quite a resource-intensive map.
Still my favourite slaughtermap by far though, one of the few that I actually genuinely enjoy.

>>3142567

Someday I will get a not shit computer.

And then I will run Rats at maximum framerate.

>>3142567
>Be happy, at least you won't spend shitmoney on a shitgame then

>>3142572
It will probably be renamed to Cthulhu because that's popular

>>3142576
I keep telling myself I won't get it, and still I'll probably last no more than a week just to get a physical copy for the reverse sleeve art. People are weak.
Insert this is why we need a strong dictatorial socialist state, because we can't buy the things we need and financially support things that need to die

>>3142562
XXXI Cybersky

>>3142564
>That one faggot on Twitter that works at id Software
>He's constantly making posts bragging about how silky smooth and wonderful the PC version of DOOM is
>Literally every post ends in #PCMASTERRACE

Deliver me from this

Is there any guide on setting up a Stronghold server? Should I set specific server options like weapon stay? Any patches to download? Is there any way to save progress?

>>3142628
yes, yes, i believe, no.

Me again. Would there be a way for me to code the Enforcers lasergun into a usable gun for the player?

Found this on /m/

>>3142306
The only way that would happen if zenimax had come into financial troubles.

>>3142628

It's been ages since I played stronghold but I would like to say that individual players are saved.

>>3142350
those are all owned by zenimax so they would still keep them.

>>3142379

>>3142646
You could steal the one from shrak.

>>3142379
They have pretty antithetical approaches to horror, though.

Quake 1 is horror based on humanity's utter ignorance of the true nature of all that is without our control or understanding. Everything that we don't know, come to harm us.

Quake 2 is horror focused on humanity's corporeal form, a twisting of everything we know into a darker reflection of our own selves. What we know best, our own selves, coming to harm us.

>>3142613
They're desperate for the PCMR redditors to start promoting and defending their shitty game for them.

Whats your favorite demon and why?

What would you do if you encountered your favorite demon?

>>3142719
Gotta go with the skelly.
Close combat with the SSG is just so satisfying, and dodging endless homing missiles whilst zeroing in on the fuckers makes me feel like fucking Goku.

>>3142719
best sound effect in the game

>>3142719
Caco is probably the most appealing to look at, they have a big pleasant smile.

And if I met one? Well, probably do a 360 and moonwalk away, that shit's dangerous

>>3142719

I like the skellyman as well.

>>3142738

>UWAAAAUUURGGGHH
>HURGHAWORUGH
>BLOOORRRGGHH

>>3142719
a cacodemon, although I call them monster munches. if encountered I would try to befriend it by feeding it assorted foodstuffs

>>3142759
I'm pretty sure a cacodemon would make for an amazing flying mount

>>3142719
Caco, Revenant and Mancubus are all pretty close.
My most hated isn't the Archvile though. It isn't even the Chaingunner. It's the fucking Pain Elemental and the Lost fucking Souls.

AYYLMAO I SEE YOU'RE SHOOTING ROCKETS
WOULD BE A SHAME IF A RANDOM LOST SOUL
JUST
SNEAKED HIS WAY IN FRONT OF YOU
And then the fact that they take a full SSG blast to the face to die. Fuck them.

Why in the living fuck does gzdoom have trilinear enabled by default?

>>3142716
what?

>>3142798
Because Graf is a faggo poopy head

back on the sprites again.

>>3142818

Booty thrusting.

So out of the Demon redesigns in Doom 3, which one do you like the most and why?

Which one do you hate the most and why?

Also any thoughts on the Demon designs in Doom 4?

>>3142770
They're like (comparatively) tiny flesh-blimps, with horns to work as handle-bars.

Don't use the rear as a step to stand on though, it probably won't like that.

>>3142834
Not /vr/

>>3142834
In Doom 3?
I quite like the Hellknight, even if it's not the classic one I love.

Archvile doesn't feel distinct enough, it could easily have had more color and be made more anatomically distinct from the imp, they're a bit easy to confuse.

The caco was bad.

For the new monsters, I liked the Tick, Trite and Vulgar as additions to the bestiary

Now that big budget Doom is dead, can we get cartoon-looking Doom games?

>>3142832
kek

>>3142856
wonder if someone could take one of those fancy "pixel art" shaders and put it in reshade and put that in doom 4.

http://www.hedfiles.net/PixelShader/PixelShader.html

would have to simplify textures and surfaces though since everything looks greebled to fuck, maybe the lower detail lod models can be used for everything with an ini edit.

all speculation though, i don't have and can't run the beta.

Who else sucks at Doom?

>can't dodge skelly missiles
>get too close to an enemy while using the rocket launcher
>always panic when chaingunners fire at me and end up with below half hp, zero armor

Should I just give playing it all together?

>>3142883
Pro Doom Monster Strats

posting these as I finish them.

>>3142883
you circle around behind the missiles, they don't have a small enough turn radius to follow you after a manoeuvre like that. you also have to smash them into something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJcf0aOwmiA

this will get your head in the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHaCW6A2zGQ

made a shitty wee trailer for 'a Morte' I'm not sure if I should be hyping it or not. It still needs a shit ton of playtesting and detail. The maps are all there though, and the ending is in, the whole thing is functional, just the finishing touches to be added. There's a couple of pretty epic boss fights and a buttload of custom content.

>>3142857
hahah hilarious

I'm not sure about this...

Does anyone who made the original Doom and other games still even work here?

>>3142364
Can I make this replace my low health icon?

I'm trying to remember the name of a Doom WAD that has you play as the demons fighting against the Marines(and with the Marines getting a bunch of new types to fit with being the antagonists now), anyone know the name of it, cause I have it downloaded, but I forgot the name, and digging through all my WADs would take forever as I have like several hundred of them in one folder, anyone know what I'm talking about?

>>3140985

The worst DOom 2 song bar none.

>>3142896
Kevin Cloud, but he wasn't that important to early Doom production compared with Adrian Carmack.

almost done main spritesheet.

>>3142079
Bright colors = easy to see
Easy to see = easy to kill
Use these n00bs' paint jobs to your advantage

Someone make me Doom Atsume please

>>3142902
What's the best then, smart guy?

>>3141150
So that's why there was an action figure of her.

>>3142921

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkhCNx-8Qos

>>3142921
D_IN_CIT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkhCNx-8Qos

Last rotation

>>3142921
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E7MPl4G2Qc

>>3141621
I was thinking about setting up a mp server for it, but it doesn't have coop. And I don't really care much for dm in most old fps's (haven't played it, but kingpins kinda looks like shit)

>>3142694
Neat.
>>3142882
That's called greeble.

>>3143046
One Whole Greeble

Please help.

I want to replace the gunshot sound of just the player's pistol, that means not simply putting in a replacement DSPISTOL file because if I do that the zombiemen will use the sound too. So far I figured out how to replace the original pistol class, insert the new sound and get it playing, and spawn the player with the modified weapon, but the firing animation is fucked.

>>3142910
This is true, when making your marine, take as muted colors as you can, something that doesn't stand out, with as little lights and standout features as possible, see how it works.

you have the fire bullets state lasting 6 tics

make the gunflash state last 6 tics instead

>>3143075

Wow, thanks. That was easy.

>>3141145
you can do 3D floors with doom now though: multi level buildings, rooms ontop of rooms. all legit and easy to do.

>>3143070
>replaces pistol

This will do nothing.
You have to have a new player class that spawns with the pistol instead.

Or if you're already done this, because it inherits from Pistol, its A_GunFlash will play the Pistol's gunflash, which has sprites in it.
Extend it to 6 tics.

>>3142079
Why the fuck are they posing like JoJo characters?

>>3140938
>>3140953
I wanna get the armor pickup sound as a text message sound

>>3143160
because they won so they get to ham it up like a real space marine

>>3143160
You wouldn't?

What do you guys think of Marathon?

>>3143192
Floaty and weird. I've only played it with aleph one or whatever it's called, though.

It's okay I suppose.

>>3143192

i remember playing it in the 90's and was blown away by the ability to dual-wield

also i thought the story for the first two was fucking amazing, especially in Durandal where you're being teleported into multiple trouble-spots to act as a physical asset of a rogue AI while it basically commits genocide.

GZDoom Builder is the hot mapping program, yeah?

Don't mix rockets with airtanks. In related news; I think I've played way too much Chiller as a teenager...

>>3143220
kek do i see a cyberdemon leg-stump on the left

>>3143237
Naw, pay attention to her right leg.

>>3143220
I like the head rolling off the side. Feels solid.

>>3143214
its pretty decent. you can see sky and 3d floors and slopes in visual mode.

>>3143220
how do you even go about making a gib animation

>>3143268
TNT1 A 0 and then spawn like 50 chunks and 12 blood clouds and idk 6 squirts

>>3142921
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbZa7pzpJNo

THELA HUN GINJEET
THELA HUN GINJEEET

>>3143278
>not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpOo_1qh1CM

>>3143278
>THELA HUN GINJEET
>THELA HUN GINJEEET

eeeeegh what part of the song are you trying to replicate via text exactly?

>>3143268
I dunno. I just study a few other good animations and try to make my own. Beats just copying the Doomguy animation again.

>>3143278
>THELA HUN GINJEET
>THELA HUN GINJEEET

The fuck are you talking about?

>>3143313
>>3143294
>>3143282
bobby prince used the same beat from king crimson's song, thela hun ginjeet

>>3143278
This is a dangerous place.

>>3143278

Now for this 22 frame beast. To think, I plan on doing this AGAIN with her formal gown sprite. I must enjoy pain.

>>3143313
>>3143294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-5hLiZnJhU

>>3142719
Cacodemons cause I think they're cute.
Probably run away? I don't wanna get my brain melted. I'd just admire it's spherical nature from a far.

>tfw nobody listens to king crimson

great now i look like a retard

>>3143347
I listened to it with my dad aeons ago but not recently.

>>3140850
help, with what?
i beat that shit on UV on fucking 360 version of Doom man!

>>3143163
that IS my text sound anon, its fucking great

>>3142694
I want to see more by this artist, everyone always fucks up how the Shambler looks entirely but they got it dead on even with metal shit all over its 'face.'

>>3143347
on the east coast it's 1:40 Saturday morning, not the best time to get an opinion on English prog rock

>>3143112
True, but muh vanilla engine limitations.

>>3143363
Me too my senpai.

for those who wanna make a difference

https://community.bethesda.net/polls/1249

its late and I thought posting this was a good idea

>>3143331
You must. I'm in enough pain doing monster replacements.

>>3142719
Gonna have to break with the trend and say the Baron of Hell just for the classic appeal. Though the Revenant is a close second.

>>3142773
Pain Elementals were the single worst fucking design decision of Doom II. Period.

>>3143428
PFFF, they aren't that hard to deal with. Just get in their face and bully them.

>>3143434
My pain elemental replacement will slap your shit if you try that.

>>3143428

>>3143347
I do, but I've only given court and lizard a serious chance so far. I like it.

>>3143428
I agree that Lost Soul Dispensers are pretty fucking shitty. I find though that chaingun stunning them till they die is the best way to kill them though, or shotgunning them when they're about to launch a soul.

Oh, that shouldn't happen

>>3143453

I remember some time ago there was a discussion about Quake and Q2, with some anon arguing that Q2 is shit because it leaves out the more fast and confrontational type of combat in favor of slow "peek a boo" sort of tactics.
After playing and finishing Q2 for the Nth time, I came up with the following counter arguments:

1. Flat out wrong in some cases. Many enemies don't fight in a way as to position themselves in one point and engage you on sight, but swarm you and try to confront you any way possible. This is true of most flying enemies and of the parasite, the medic and the of course the berserker.

2. Some weapons don't allow for such tactic. The chaingun and the hyperblaster, arguably two of the most powerful weapons in the game have extremely fast firing rate as well as cooldown and warmup times, all of which render "peek a boo" rather pointless if not dangerous.

3. The environment doesn't always allow for it. There are many times, especially at the third quarter of the game, that maneuvering yourself behind a corner can actually exposure you to fire and cost you dearly.

>>3143453
nah it totally should, you've clearly discovered something truly magical

>>3143478
I still think the main problem with Q2 is the fairly boring level design and low intensity of enemy encounters. If those things were better and perhaps the weapon damage was increased a bit it would have been great. Still a good game, it just could have been much better.

>>3143453
Neat.

>>3143513
wouldn't increasing weapon damage reduce encounter intensity?

>>3143585
I meant to make up for an increased monster count. It'd be a bit bullet-spongey if there were more monsters but the same weapon damage scale.

>>3143513
Don't forget
>no muzzle flash
This will never not bother me

>>3143636
It's stupid but doesn't affect core gameplay. Kingpin had muzzle flashes by the way.

>>3143646
I would argue that it does affect the core gameplay.

What if the guns had no sound to them? Or no recoil? Or no kick?

Sure you could still point the center of your camera towards and enemy and click until they die, but in an FPS game the guns need to look, sound and feel good.

>dissolverlutateration of eternity has tarniggers that duplicate themselves

AAAAAAAAAA

>>3143667
The terminology used, while it would be considered offensive in most non-/pol/ venues, I too feel like shouting racial slurs at the top of my lungs whenever I fight the ink fucking bouncy exploding butthurt causers. Why did they even add those?

>>3143686
>Why did they even add those?
I can only assume the same reason they added FUCKING EARTHQUAKES EVERYWHERE. ENOUGH OF THIS SHIT, QUAKE'S PHYSICS FUCK UP ENOUGH WHEN YOU'RE STANDING ON A SLIGHT INCLINE, I DON'T NEED TO TELL DOC HOW FUCKING HEAVY THIS SHIT IS EVERY TIME SHUB-NIGGER FARTS.

>>3143667
You mean those horrible blob monsters? I hate those fuckers more then Shamblers.

>>3143702
>FUCKING EARTHQUAKES EVERYWHERE

Calm down dude it's only in that one level

>>3143702
Dissolution of Eternity is definitely the worse official expansion of the two. The different ammo types were pretty neat though.

>>3143703
Shamblers at least have a really solid design and can be fun to fight, especially if you don't have a super nailgun and have to rely on baiting them into attacking while diving for cover yourself (or have a super nailgun, lots of nails, lots of health and/or a quad damage, and want to blow off some steam as you mow it down). Spawns are just terrible, a jumping bob of gunk that can fly faster than Ranger can run, blends in with everything, and explodes when you kill it anyway after it jumps right into your face.

>"We came up with him later on and he was so tough that we couldn't use him too much." -Romero

>>3143707
I can definitely see why it's worse. The alt ammo types are neat (and the heated nailgun glowing in the dark makes my dick hard), but Scourge's actual new weapons were definitely more fun, especially the proxy grenades. The new enemies are mostly annoying or die just as easily as their stock counterparts, and the maps in general feel more amateurish- not just in terms of lame traps or enemy placement, but also stuff like blocky brushwork and Z-fighting on lots of secret doors and such.

>>3143727
I still think Vores are the most annoying enemy in Quake. Revenants with more health and homing missiles that home even harder are not fun.

>>3143736
Vores are lame but at least they're slow and don't move much so you can plink at them from around corners and walls (and if they're on a ledge or platform, bait them into wearing themselves down with their own projectile explosions to save yourself ammo).

They're only really annoying when they're in big wide open areas where the player can't do much but flee while hoping to find something to intercept the purple spike ball thing or in worst case scenarios (i.e. dropped into a room with no immediate exit), has no choice but to try to kill the Vore(s) before dying from the damage.

>>3143727

Z-fighting doesn't happen in the software renderer

>>3143727
Doesn't Eternity also have those fuck-off floating swords which mince you up?

>>3143745
>playing with the software renderer

>>3143748
Yeah.

>>3143727
>>3143745

Also, there's a bunch of z-fighting in Quake's stock maps too. Even in E1M1 there's a very noticeable occurrence of z-fighting near the quad damage secret. If you aren't seeing them in Quakespasm, then it's because you're loading quakespasm.pak which alters the maps to fix them. Try playing the game with the -fitz parameter and they'll show up again.

>>3143751

The point I'm making is that maybe they simply weren't able to test the maps on the hardware renderer, maybe they were contracted by id to develop them long before GLQuake was available and testing the maps under that renderer wasn't part of the contract, or maybe during that time the consequence of using the OpenGL renderer wasn't widely known yet. I think the fact that Hipnotic has less z-fighting is just coincidence, its maps are more spacious so there's less reason for walls to start overlapping. It's the same thing with vanilla Quake. Most of the z-fighting happens in E1 and E2, there's probably zero instance of them in the more spacious E4 maps but that doesn't mean Petersen is a more experienced mapper than Romero.

>>3142891
That's a pretty neat texture set, sauce?

>>3143770
Looks like Epic 2

>>3143770
Looks like Epic. Doom megawad set in Egypt, so has a Serious Sam feel.
Has a sequel as well.

>>3143767
Well hey, how 'bout that. I learned something today!

I noticed adding the -fitz launch option plays the demos at startup and includes a different exit screen that shows up even if you hard quit with F10; I knew there were various differences between Fitzquake and Quakespasm that can be disabled with the -fitz option but haven't been able to find a full list of what exactly is changed.

>>3143742

Vores are great for starting in-fighting. Their bombs are easy to lead to hit another enemy. Once an Ogre or Death Knight gets within melee range to a Vore, the Vore is as good as dead because it has no melee attack.

>>3143767
What exactly is Z-Fighting?

>>3143776
That's actually pretty cool.

>>3143794
Z-fighting, also called stitching, is a phenomenon in 3D rendering that occurs when two or more primitives have similar values in the z-buffer. It is particularly prevalent with coplanar polygons, where two faces occupy essentially the same space, with neither in front.

>>3143776
Quakespasm was basically just a fork of FitzQuake anyway after it stopped getting worked on.

>>3143798
>>3143797
For a less copypasted explanation, z-fighting is the glitchy black/flickery shit you see when two walls sit in the exact same spot and as you move yourself/the camera around that one spot spazzes out like it can't decide which wall to draw (which is exactly what's happening).

>>3143804
Yeah, I know (Quakespasm still lists Fitzquake 0.85 in the console when you start a map), I was just interested in what little things exactly were changed.

>>3143810
Oooh! That's what that's called. I've officially learned something today.

>>3143813
We're all learning things today!

>>3142902
>The worst DOom 2 song bar none.

And yet one of the best tracks in a videogame. DOOM 2's quality bar is just is too high.

>>3143818
Into Sandy's City is the best track.

>>3142902
>best song
>worst

>>3142902
kek what a shitter doom babby

you other babbies know the breakdown from 3:16 is a slowed down version of Atheist's Samba Briza?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4mbeVHtzwE