/vr/ - Retro Games

It's shit.

It's great, highly recommended.

That you're paying for actual ROM files and there is absolutely no reason to pay money for the same files you and just go out and download.

If you absolutely have to have a mega man collection, get the Anniversary Collection (PS2 version preferably) That way you also get 7, 8, and the two arcade games.

>>3130863
they took the anniversary collection, removed some games from it, and added a ''challenge mode'' that is basically the same calibre shit as NES Remix. oh and 'HD' like that fucking matters.

Such a waste of time they had to stick each version with an exclusive figure to sell them.

I heard they updated it and it now includes both MM 1-6 AND Rockman 1-6

Is that true?

>>3130879
Yes that is correct. It's totally worth it.

They should just develop an HD version of the old NES and get it over with

>>3130883
>mod NES to ouput RGB
>connect to TV via XRGB-mini

There, done, HD NES

>>3130883
They should just manufacture brand new NES consoles and cartridges and get it over with

>>3130891
Yep exactly

Would've been neat if they'd included new content, like the Rockman 4 Sample version with the Sphinx miniboss. But I guess Capcom themselves don't even have copies of those.

Been playing it nonstop with the wife. It's great.

>>3130891
I can see it now
>A new print of a NES game retails for 60 dollars
>All original copies of any game now match 60 dollars, and then some for their "original collector value"
>More consoles means a whole new wave of collectors hitting the market
>retro bubble is now kicked into massive hyperdrive.

>>3130891
>>3130903
They should develop a proper emulators for current gen consoles and PC, then sell roms.

>>3130914
>The emulator is 'free'
>The games are not
>One free game is available for a month before being swapped out with some other game

>>3130926
Just like Pinball Arcade!

>>3130914

It's not as easy to just sell roms

Half of all retro games can never be released in any form because getting the licensing for anything movie related is basically impossible.

Any Nintendo game is our of the question for anything other than a Nintendo console

There's such a small number of games that a third party console could even sell

The Nintendo virtual console is about the most inclusive rom library you can realistically get

>>3130863
Play perfect memories instead/10

>>3130874
Anniversary Collection sucks because

> it looks terrible (boxart and 3dcg gutsman capcom intro)
> one of those stupid fucking games that doesn't have a normal menu
> "new" sfx and UI are shit
> can be locked out of playing certain games

I have no idea why people defend this title over Legacy Collection.

>>3131121
>can be locked out of playing certain games

What?

>>3131121
it has more games, and the menu isnt even that bad. You just walk to a selection, so what?

>>3130874
On this note, did anyone see the GDC talk that Frank Cifaldi gave about emulation?
http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1023470/-It-s-Just-Emulation
He argues that emulation should be standardised as a way of republishing old games, rather than porting everything.

>>3130901
>Not your wife's son
Fuck off my man

>>3131121
>Bothered by CG gutsman
Anniversary Collection is the best collection of classic MM games. Although it doesn't seem like much effort was needed since PS1 rockman games already had the Mega Man 8 hud used in AC. If you absolutely want Mega Man raw, you can disable the hud back to classic which also disables the remixes. Remixes of the music wasn't too bad either since they used the same style as MM8.

As far as Legacy collection goes, it was a wasted opportunity to bring over Megaman 9 and 10 on Windows. Whatever the plan was, I'm pretty sure people would have been fine with a rebranded Anniversary Collection and maybe a different menu too.

I got it for muh 3DS because I'm the only person in the world without a hacked 3DS.

>>3130863

It's probably the most faithful (legitimate) way of playing the original NES Megaman games. I'm not sure why people want to dock points for it for being emulation.

Would you prefer if it were a port with multiple inaccuracies compared to the NES version?

>>3130874
>That you're paying for actual ROM files and there is absolutely no reason to pay money for the same files you and just go out and download.
See talk linked in >>3131150 because the talk explains why the game was done as a ROM with emulator rather than a port.

>>3131181
The problem was they promoted it as a 'brand new engine meant to preserve the games for future generations'.

>>3131131
Happened to me when I was playing a friend's copy this weekend, I could play every NES game except 4 for some reason.

>>3130874
Anniversary Collection is shit.
They couldn't even use the better version of MM8, and there are a number of bugs, topped off with some real shitty input latency

>>3130863
Mega Man X legacy collection when?

>>3131191
Maybe they meant the new Challenge Mode was made with a new engine?

How was that made anyway? That's probably it.

>>3131198
Hopefully Legacy Collection was testing the waters on future rereleases. Has Cifaldi said anything since Legacy Collection's release >>3131216
that's hinted at that?

>>3131216
>The company is using its new Eclipse Engine, which "rebuilds the original games from their source elements," according to Capcom.

>>3131198
Hopefully Legacy Collection was testing the waters on future rereleases. I don't know if Cifaldi's said anything that's hinted at more.

An emulator and all six Megaman games is only about 5 MB and works perfectly; the legacy collection is hundreds of MB and loaded with bloat and DRM. Why should I pay Capcom to take a giant dump on my PC?

>>3131492
>hundreds of MB
>bloat
Jesus Christ man, it's fucking 2016, memory isn't expensive or limited. Don't you have at least a 2 TB hard drive??

>>3130863
>Stolen Emu with Custom FrontEnd and Roms
>You guys didnt like Megaman
>Darkstalkers is not DED GAAAAAAIIIIIIIIISSSS

>>3131192
Select "New Game".

>>3130938
Ah licensing.

The thing that makes piracy attractive and easy.

>>3131497
It's a "tragedy of the commons" type thing, though. Imagine if every NES rom was ~100 megs. A full set would be close to a tera.

Your an idiot, mate.

>>3131497
yeah perfectly reasonable a game gets about 50 times larger just to check if you really own it.

>>3131747
What does the third line have to do with the previous 2?

>>3131497
That's like selling somebody a cooking magazine with a five pound weight attached to it, then when they complain you tell them "Jesus Christ man, five pounds isn't that heavy."

Yes, it's not that heavy, but it's the principle of the thing. A magazine should not weigh five pounds, and a small collection of NES games should not be hundreds of megabytes.

>>3131951
Capcom has been pulling the same tactic time and time again. If you don't buy RE:make/DMC4SE/Megaman Collection/Darkstalkers Resurrection rehashes that means the series failed to generate enough profit and will be cancelled.

>>3132174
The point of a business is to make money. Just statements make more sales, ergo it is a good thing for them to say.

>>3132180
No shit, still doesn't excuse promising a sequel then going "oops since the rehash didn't sell that means you guys don't really want Darkstalkers 4 that bad, tee hee". That's just deception.

>2016
>still giving a shit about Capcom

>>3132279
>posting 2.2MB reaction image

>>3132174
To be fair, they followed a similar formula with Resurrection that they did with HD Remix, a rerelease to gauge interest for an upcoming game, they just messed up by making it a compilation rather than just being a standalone rerelease of Vampire Savior.

4SE seems to have done its job though, it got a hell of a lot more marketing, sold great,and all signs are pointing to there being a new game.

Okay, here's something that's been bugging me for about ten years.

What's with the name "Feldynaut"? It's completely random. Every other Bonne machine has a German name. Most of them are named after WWII-era military hardware. But this thing is just... Feldynaut. What does that even mean?

>>3132191
The problem is a lack of transparency in development process and aims for sales.
>>3132502
How the hell would releasing one game have improved sales? Night Warriors and Savior have very different feels and there are playerbase of both.

>>3132506
Ferdinand. Feldynaut is a pet name for it.

>>3130863
3DS version is the only version worth getting.

>>3132508
>The Elefant (German for "elephant") was a Schwerer Panzerjäger (German: "heavy tank-hunter")—a tank destroyer—of the German Wehrmacht during World War II. It was built in small numbers in 1943 under the name Ferdinand after its designer Ferdinand Porsche

Well, there's that mystery solved. Thanks.

>>3132507
Because releasing two games instead of just one dilutes interest. If there really is a fanbase for Hunter, I haven't seen it, and Savior has been the face of the series since it released.

>>3132564
People complain about Megaman Legacy Collection not having 7-10.

>>3132564
>If there really is a fanbase for Hunter, I haven't seen it,
You mean Night Warriors? Yes, there is one.

>>3132569
Or the Gameboy games.

>>3132279
>>3131497

>>3132612
It's not an opinion, but rather a fact that Capcom is run by talentless kikes who are trying to swindle you with shitware like Megaman Legacy Collection.

I feel cheated because I feel like I paid for a set of ROMs. It doesn't feel like a legitimate copy.

>>3132578
I didn't say it didn't have a fanbase, I just said it pales in size compared to Savior's.

>>3132518
>get 3DS version
>Mega Man 5 constantly skips frames at all times
>Rockman 5 works fine
>have to use MM5 for the challenges
How the fuck did get the okay for release? At least the colors are brighter than with the VC emulator.

SJW faggot Frank Cifaldi was involved in making it, so it's shit. Avoid.

>>3130863
it sucks cuz megalomans suck, all hail nu-/vr/ all hail irrational hate all hail being worse than /v/


and with that I'm out and never going here again, this board fucking sucks now, and I only fucking left for a month

>>3134823
See you next month.

>>3130863
>less games than anniversary collection
>10 years later

I wouldn't say Legacy is a bad collection, but it's 10 years later than a better collection, so I don't really see the point in it, other than a cheap manipulative cash grab cashing in on a new wave of retro nostalgia (so typical capcom) it seems like capcom are getting lazier and greedier by the year, sadly.

It should contain 9 and 10 if it wants to be an 8 bit collection.
It should contain the GB games if it wants to be a 'legacy' collection (seriously the sonic collections did the game gear games so no excuse nearly FIFTEEN YEARS AGO)

Fuck Megaman, give me a Viewtiful Joe 3.

>>3134846
They wanted a consistent feeling among the ones they included.

Perfect for the fanboys of Mega Man series from NES. Graphics are identical without some bullshit FF square enix revamp. Original look. I love having this collection on the ps4

>>3134846
I do agree, should've thrown 9 and 10 on it. Only thing that pissed me off

>>3134823
You guys smell something? Oh nevermind, it just left

>>3134823
only thing that sucks is your attitude bro

>>3132569
>>3132589
or the arcade games and the PSX Battle & Chase

>>3135575
Let's not forget Megaman & Bass

>>3132630
>uses kikes in reply
>expects to be taken seriously outside of pol

>>3130863
I got it for PS4. Kinda regret it 2bh. I mean Mega Man 3 still has slowdowns just like it did on NES. Wtf?

Paying for emulated roms like that really is dumb. At the very least that shit should be a super smooth 60fps. I mean at least put SOME fucking effort into it.

I'd pirate it over paying for it if I didn't have money for sure. I got it for PS4 because of the convenience of just turning on your console and playing immediately on your TV instead of running through the emulation shenanigans. If you don't care for that convenience then definitely just pirate the roms m8.

>>3136203
>I mean Mega Man 3 still has slowdowns just like it did on NES.

And? The whole point is that these play exactly like the originals, warts and all, via emulation. If it was a port then slowdowns would be silly, but this is just getting the games to run like they did back in the day.

>>3136217
And it's annoying you retarded autist. Only on /vr/ would you have to explain something so obvious to anonymous spergkeks like yourself.

>>3136221
Let me guess, you also wish they got rid of the sprite flickering?

>>3131747
>>3132191
>>3132502
>>3132507
>>3132564
>>3132578
Why do you guys give a shit if capcom gives it a sequel? Y'know it's going to butcher the art direction and game as a whole.

>>3136441
I'll be exited, then complain when my main either gets cut or butchered to hell, and then whine about it.

>>3136203
You're complaining that the emulator is TOO ACCURATE?

THIS IS /VR/ DUDE

>mfw I cfw'd my 3DS and getting a cia of this game wasn't hard at all
>mfw I have a PS2 with Matrix Infinity modchip and original Mega Man Anniversary Collection

>>3131174
Just a heads up you can probably downgrade and hack your 3ds if you want. I think downgrading is possible for current fws for the time being.
The guide you wanna use should be in home brew general post, its also at the top of the 3dshacks reddit (sry forgot my trigger warning).

Sorry on my phone taking a poop so no link handy.

>>3130934
>anti-TPA fag here, of all places
At least the current pinball thread is free of you.

>>3131823
Ah, licensing.

The thing for which hate is used as a vain and flimsy justification for intellectual property theft.

>>3136493
What's /VR/?

>>3136048
i hate israeli zionist kikes 2bh

you fit the bill don't you?

not even a /pol/cuck. thanks for destroying the world.

>>3130863
Why wouldn't I just buy a 5 dollar copy of the anniversary collection for ps2?

>>3137245
The last collection is not accurate.

>>3137273
You mean like Frame-cycles? colours? music? what isn'y accurate with it? The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is that they had to get rid of some minor instances of mode 7 in Megaman 7.

>>3137245
because input lag is bullshit.

>>3137176
I'm not wrong, am I? TPA is exactly as that anon described.

Legacy Collection lets you fight any of the Robot Masters on demand, with a full arsenal.

It is lazily implemented, much like the other "features" on it, but worth mentioning. AC doesn't have this and I guess you can do it on an emulator with some effort.

How's the 3DS version? Already have the Rockman Complete Works on PSN but I wouldn't mind being able to take Mega Man to work with me.

>>3131198
Why? The PS2 collection is already close to perfect.

>>3137959
It's okay, but not great. Complete Works is better overall. Legacy Collection doesn't have the neat gameplay related bonuses of CW other than being able to fight robot masters whenever you want. It also doesn't have any fixes/changes that were made in CW.

In addition, all of the games in the 3DS version of Legacy Collection drop a frame about once every 10 seconds or so. This isn't very noticeable unless you're really looking for it, but Mega Man 5 drops frames at all times for no discernible reason. Rockman 5 works fine other than the 1 out of 600 frames being dropped thing. However, you're forced to use Mega Man 5 in the challenge mode, and it's extremely jarring when one challenge goes between different games and one of those happens to be MM5.