/vr/ - Retro Games

===NEWS===

[03-17] DUMP 2 closes; final submissions
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=893335#p893335
- The UAC Fucked Up Yet Again >>3070932
http://www.mediafire.com/download/atixtqd84686ptc/TheUACFuckedUpYetAgain.wad
- Filth.wad >>3070390 >>3070967
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8xWmOI7IYl3cEpUN3V1c2JzeFk/view
- I SURE FUCKING LOVE TECHBASES >>3070328
https://mega.nz/#!bAAUwb6B!XIx1c0MrAkbbjPvroXsdhF707bty8xXgMtsKv1PDpZg
- For All Kings >>3069449
https://mega.nz/#!3x12nb4R!nKuFDFwuzFOQUGU8AKSMGt-_IJ21Jc6Qzm0NdvHATRs
- DOA >>3068649
https://www.dropbox.com/s/79sl98cksh0hmf4/DOA.wad

[03-16] Anon Map Releases
- TrainV3 >>3069853
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kt5xmyomic1tkai/TrainV3.wad
- ARCH17 (for Quake) >>3067654
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ot42kt54st0re3n/arch17.bsp
- Refinery 03 (/vr/E1 submission) >>3065927
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4A_W_qt7N94VkdjOEFxNWRIZTA/view
- Sentient Penis Driving Car v0.9 >>3065528
http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=wd73ej

[03-16] DUMP Submissions
- >>3068591 >>3068612
https://my.mixtape.moe/wvmfym.wad
- Defecation Foundation >>3068290
https://www.dropbox.com/s/y4dg1f6sluy8yz9/Defecation%20Foundation.wad
- DOPADUMP >>3063865
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4mwJRa7e5VpWkRwS3kxVW9takU/view
- Dark and Dreary (final) >>3063156
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ry4x8qijhqcjqk5/Dark%20and%20Dreary%20Final.wad

[03-13] Anon Map Releases
- Autism!.wad >>3060465
https://mega.nz/#!p8dxwYgb!DzLGA984kBso09AKxXKsH3Xfa4Xx3OI2thShv6XEUHg
- pincer.wad >>3060250 >>3060401
https://mega.nz/#!i0UGTL5K!FIq5GeLyNtxSxt_qzuXaRZ_dGLMfPNkLA1FUhZicpJo

[03-13] DUMP Submissions
- dumpmap.pk3 >>3060706
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ziriss5wa8k69hp/dumpmap.pk3
- DUMP Castle map WIP >>3059281
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8380892/Doom%20maps/DUMPmapWip1.pk3

[03-11] Operation Totengräber Community Set (Wolfenstein mod project)
http://diehardwolfers.areyep.com/viewtopic.php?t=7400

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To submit news, please reply to this post.

1st for m'lady

i don't think i'm going to put every single DUMP submission in the news post again, it takes up too much space. the news post will still announce the final release of course.

>>3073831
>YOU HAVE HUGE STUDS

meanwhile in an alternate universe where hdoom is a yaoi mod...

>>3073846
hah. i had to go look up what the knobbly things on lego bricks were called. i thought the jokes would write themselves.

did anyone ever play https://my.mixtape.moe/wvmfym.wad (reminder that it's on map07 and needs cc4-tex.wad)? would be nice to hear feedback, unless it's "the map is terrible kill yourself" because that would suck

>>3073846
>doomgirl getting fucked by bara monster boys

QUESTION THREAD TRANSFER
>>3073829

Seriously, what the fuck is the point of those northern alcoves.

>>3073862
boom sorcery

After years of playing Doom I've only just now noticed that every single weapon sprite besides the pistol isn't actually centred. It's.. messing me up worse than Comfy Doom.

>>3073885
You're gonna make it, anon.

What's the difference between redbox scripts and bluebox scripts?

Am I the only person who legitimately hates Cacodemons? I've always hated those fuckers. Their cry is annoying as hell, they're ugly as fuck, literally just a lump of flesh, they always come out at the most inconvenient of times, they're dumb, they have WAY TOO MUCH health, when you hit them they get knocked back to the other side of the entire fucking map, and when they do die they leave behind huge carcasses that block your view. FUCK CACODEMONS.

>>3073969
Nope. Pain Elementals are a whole different story though.

>>3073972
PEs are badass motherfuckers, but there are just no good points to Cacodemons whatsoever.

>>3073969
Killing Cacodemons with the SSG feels so good that it justifies everything you said.

>>3073969
>>3074006
I personally enjoy making long-distance rocket shots on Cacodemons that have already been knocked back by a previous rocket

Did E1M8B have (m)any cacodemons?

>>3073969
>Their cry is annoying as hell
i've never really noticed
>they're ugly as fuck
really?
>literally just a lump of flesh
i always thought they were mostly a shell full of gas
>they always come out at the most inconvenient of times
well that depends on the map of course
>they're dumb
okay
>they have WAY TOO MUCH health
that's possibly true but only if you have the single shotgun
>when you hit them they get knocked back to the other side of the entire fucking map
okay yeah this is annoying. but also shared by other flying monsters.
>and when they do die they leave behind huge carcasses that block your view.
yeah i have to agree with this one as well

>>3074019
i don't think so. he tried to restrict to shareware assets, iirc.

>>3074019
Why can't Undertale just stay the fuck out of all the stuff I like?

>>3074019
>shitty cacodemon in the right corner
pffffff

>>3074032
Malignant cancer spreads rapidly, anon

>>3074035
>>3074032
The problem isn't people who do stuff like this. It's the people who cannot let it slide just like all the other stupid crossover bullshit and instead make noise about it.

Just let it drop from now on.

>>3074039
And yet you continue to agitate us by posting more of it

>>3074039
he says as he posts more of it

>>3074042
How on earth did I fuck up that spoiler

>>3074045
>>3074042
Only because you agitate me in return.
This is a symbolism for the neverending coflict in middle-east as well. All have to have the last word.

>There's been a million crossovers with DOOM before
>Several of which have been posted here
>Nobody has an issue with it
>Undertale crossover finally happens
>People fling shit about it and piss themselves as soon as it comes into existence

I don't even like Undertale, but the people making the crossovers aren't the cancerous ones in the situation.

>>3074053
IKR?

Stealth monsters in maps: the instant way to know that it's baby's first map. I don't care if it's a fucking imp, rifleman, or whatever, if I take a single hitpoint of damage from something I can't see then FUCK.

>>3074058
Do people actually use them?

Why are they specified in the first place?

>>3074050
Spoiler alert: I only posted for the sake of the pun, tumblr-kun

>>3074057
nice anon. i was just going to post that

>>3074050
ur a faget

>>3074053
No you don't understand it's different because it's a crossover with a thing I don't like.
I see the hypocrisy in the statement, but fuck it.

>>3074053
>There's been a million crossovers with DOOM before
>Several of which have been posted here
>Nobody has an issue with it

You have not been around for the pony crossovers.

>>3074058

I'm adding a stealth monster to my map just for you, senpai.

>>3074027
>>when you hit them they get knocked back to the other side of the entire fucking map
>okay yeah this is annoying. but also shared by other flying monsters.
No. The Pain Elementals don't get knocked back at all, and the Lost Souls don't move back nearly as fast as the Cacodemons, and they're much easier to kill. Cacodemons will get pushed back to the other side of the level and if you're in a wide, open area, it can take a long time for them to come back to you.

>>3073869
I dunno man, they don't seem to have any actions tied to them. They must be define some sort of sequence in the actual map, no fucking idea how it actually works.

>>3074053
I don't know why you felt the need to post this when it's just one or two guys complaining, but okay.

I guess you saying 'I don't like it either by the way' justifies your complaint in return too.

Update to my shitty Project Brutality mod/Mutator:
-Barons of hell are now replaced by juiced up plasma zombies
-Cyberdemons are now replaced by juiced up rocket zombies
-SpiderMasterminds are now replaced by juiced up Chaingun majors
Link: http://pastebin.com/53Lukwhs
Instructions:
>download the file
>don't extract the zip file, change it to pk3 if you want
>load it after Project Brutality
>all monsters will be replaced by zombie and imp type enemies
>play on the hardest difficulties only

>>3074090
You're gonna make me cry.

>>3074105
>kill variety
Why?

>>3074092

>>3074109
Killing zombies in Brutal Doom is ridiculously satisfying to me.

>>3074116
I've literally never seen that before. Every time I feed them shells, bullets, or plasma right to the face they eat and still move forward.

>>3074092
>>3074116
maybe this time not encode at 60kbps at 1024fps

>>3074092
>The Pain Elementals don't get knocked back at all
i wonder where you got this idea from, because it is incorrect
>and the Lost Souls don't move back nearly as fast as the Cacodemons, and they're much easier to kill.
the worst thing with lost souls is to hit them when they're charging, so they get stuck in mid air floating very slowly with their mouths open. it might take hours for them to float far enough to hit something and return to normal.

>>3074053
This.
Also the sans.wad mod is one of my favorite little gameplay mods to fuck around with.

>>3074120
>>3074116
>>3074092

okay jesus christ I need to get my shit together

(I'm deleting the old webm because 1024fps at 60kbps is bad)

but yeah the cacodemon and painie have the same mass and same flags, they're going to move around the same

>>3074120
a floating monster whose base is at floor height is treated the same as a walking monster, it has friction applied to it. its only when it is not touching the floor that friction no longer applies and you can send them flying.

>>3074127
>the worst thing with lost souls is to hit them when they're charging, so they get stuck in mid air floating very slowly with their mouths open. it might take hours for them to float far enough to hit something and return to normal.
Are you kidding me? That's the best strategy with the Lost Souls, I do it all the time with the Shotgun, SSG, or Chaingun.

>never really used chainsaw and didn't get the hype behind it
>run out of ammo first time in ages
I haven't appreciated something like that in vidya for a while and played 2 levels saw only straight

>>3074032
it's the new mlp

>>3074147
i am very impatient and hate waiting for the damn thing to return back to where i can actually kill it. i can't just leave it alone else it will sneak up and plague me later at exactly the wrong moment

>>3074147
I guess it's bad if they're too far away when you do it because then you can't kill them efficiently. But it's great if you manage to stop them near you so they can be deal with later and easily

>>3074160
chaingun tap it

>>3074050
well you started it
just like kindergarten

>>3074058
Im making all of my monsters transparent, only appearing when they attack. Thank you for the tip.

>>3074163
doesnt work if its outside autoaim range sadly. (i don't use mouselook.)

>>3074174
then stop living in the past and accept freelook jumping crouching translucent sloped 3D floors with colored lighting and true brutal fatality action into your life :^)

>>3074050
So you're saying if we just killed you like the towel heads we'd be over with this?

>>3074053
I bet you like homestuck too

>>3074174
>i don't use mouselook.

Uhh... you mean you don't use "look up look down"? Because I can understand the preference of playing the game with original engine limitations, but when I used to do that I accepted those annoyances as just that. Engine limitations.

Protip: Rocket explosions are infinitely tall and you can kill things a hundred meters in the air or down in a chasm.

>tfw no amateur quake mapping competition

>>3074219
>Uhh... you mean you don't use "look up look down"?
yes.

>>3074220
I appreciate Quake's visuals, but it just ain't as fun to play.

It's March 18th, do you know where your Golden Boner Awards are?

>>3074250
in my pants

>>3074246
I guess I'm weird in that I find Quake more fun than the various 2.5d shooters.

>>3074256
It's not about the 3d vs 2.5d aspect really. Quake's enemies and the gameplay pacing just ain't as tight.

>>3073854
it seems to need more than just cc4-tex.wad

>>3074269
that's weird, because for me it works just fine with this command line
$ prboom -file $PWD/resources/cc4-tex.wad $PWD/TNOTMWOFOLBTIDIDWTSOCSNTITNOTM.wad -warp 7

is it because of BRICKPLA? that seems to be missing from some versions of cc4-tex.wad

I have a script that spawns 4 imps in a room when the player picks up a certain item, as well as raising the floor near the door by 64 to block it. How do I make it so that only when the player has killed all 4 spawned imps, the floor lowers again, making the door unblocked=

>>3074267
I'll give you that, I guess. Quake's cannon fodder is admittedly pretty boring, although to its credit there's only two annoying hitscan enemies and one of them is the towering Shambler whom I like way more than Barons or Cyberdemons.

>tfw Quake could have been refined to the same level of polish and fanfare as Doom if id hadn't slapped the name on an unrelated game that set the tone for the rest of the series

FUCK THE STROGG
QUAKE WAR NOW

>>3074279
>is it because of BRICKPLA?
yeah, sorry i should have said i get loads of "brickpla missing" errors
>that seems to be missing from some versions of cc4-tex.wad
i have the official cc4-tex that comes with cchest4 itself, so i don't know

>>3074286
hm. my version of cc4-tex.wad does have BRICKPLA, but the one term's using for DUMP 2 didn't either - I guess it got updated?

http://static.best-ever.org/wads/cc4-tex.wad this one should work, the md5sum matches anyway

I made sure the one in DUMP 2 has BRICKPLA so it should be good there

>>3074290
hmm, unless that came from either esselfortium (who i believe compiled cc4-tex originally) or the green herring (cchest maintainer) then it is not official, it's some prick uploading shit he shouldn't. or should have renamed first, at the very least. but okay, thanks for pointing that out.

>>3074295
yeah it came from essel

https://www.doomworld.com/vb/community-chest-4/43409-cc4-official-texture-resource/

leads to https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/cchest4

which has the same md5sum

>>3074297
fair enough, i will update my copy.

>>3073854
>>3074297
all right here is a thrice-failed first demo.

http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=uu62vt

i guess i will have to learn this one before i can record it successfully. i got swamped very quickly on the other side of both portals, so either i've missed a decent weapon or i'm doing something else wrong. but what i saw was well-made, if a bit crazily textured.

>>3074326
yeah the safest order is techbase->caves'n'bricks->hell, but if you're crazy you can run through the cave area, nab a rocket launcher and return to the techbase area

I *really* do not recommend trying to grab the plasma rifle, I have successfully done that like twice out of something like 20 attempts

>>3074328
clarification: I don't recommend rushing through to grab the plasma, unless you want the bastards to swamp you in the techbase

there *is* enough ammo to do the hell part on its own, and you get both the RL and plasma there, but it's fuckin' hard to pull it off.

>>3074330
well i found the techbase part quite easy to clear even with just a shotgun. it just seems as soon as you go through one of the portals the monster density goes up several factors and shotgun/chaingun isn't anything like enough any more. this is obviously from the perspective of a player new to the map - i assume it's easier when the map is known, it always is.

>>3074334
yeah, the second area pretty much will require you to bust out the rocket launcher in that area

really, the entire map is controlling what your safe area is, which is easy in the techbase area, fairly difficult in the natural area (but not too bad), and fuckin' hard in the hell area

it ratchets down a lot in lower difficulties though - you only get a third of the monsters in easy, and specifically no pain elementals and a lot less flying bastards

>>3074280
Bump with this that I think should do it, but doesn't. Am confused.

>>3074340
aaaaaagh my own map is kicking my ass jesus christ the hell area is still pure madness

>>3074369
ThingCount should help.

http://zdoom.org/wiki/ThingCount

>>3074379
Sadly not. I think the issue is that I try to execute script 3 from script 3. Maybe I should make a script 4 that is basically the same, except script 3 runs script 4, and script 4 runs script 3 :'^)

Does gzdoom have an artificial fps limit or have I just gotten so used to 144fps that I can't tell it apart from 60?

>>3074415
Try this, this is untested but it *should* work

http://pastebin.com/hQ0Zwp0n

>>3074436
I did script 3 -> script 4 silly stuff which worked, but this worked too. Thanks man.

well this was a complete failure for what I was trying to achive, but it kind of looks cool anyway.

Would work quite well as a plasma gun projectile?

>>3074449
>Would work quite well as a plasma gun projectile?
It would if it didn't cover up the entire screen at exit point

What is the preferred walling on staircases. Left side style or right side?

>>3074449
you have opened a door to the White Dimension

>>3074462
well the right is basically a texture misalignment. the left looks increasingly odd as the light gets closer to the floor. in other words: neither. use the version of METAL without the light, but strategically implant strips of light at regular intervals appropriately.

>>3074460
It's a 3d model so it's pretty easy to rescale in modeldef or even on the actor.

>>3074463
Yeah, and all I was trying to do is make a light shaft that 'works' from any angle.

>>3074418
nah I often get 1000fps

>>3074105

do these new zombos have the same hp as the monsters they're replacing?

>>3074418
It has if vertical sync is on.

>>3074486
can you tell the difference between that and 60 or 100 or whatever?

>>3074250
>It's March 18th

I'LL BE DAMNED

>3 YEARS OF DOOM THREADS

I'm trying to compare different Quake engine games apples to apples. Top is Half-Life with default brightness. Thoughts?

>>3074512
yeah, even on a 60hz monitor I notice it getting jittery and my input getting laggier

>>3074495
Not yet, no. I'm want to balance it better eventually, but right now I'm not mentally prepared enough to try and tackle brutal doom's messy code.

>>3074523
I don't know why but that's pretty interesting. It hadn't hit me how much nicer lightmaps q3 has. Would be interesting to see Darkplaces thrown in the mix too, but only if you're curious yourself.

>>3074536
Quake 3 certainly can do some nice lightmaps, but in this example, it's quite bad if you ask me.
The light in Quake 3 falls off too quickly, and the rest of the room ends up looking too dark. I think what happens is that Quake 3 is technically accurate, but there is no gamma correction.

>>3074523
Man, GoldSrc doesn't look that bad, does it? What the heck.

Is that just flat white walls with a yellow light?

>>3074536
id tech 3 has pretty damn good lighting, as well as reflections, particles, visportals and so on; it all just gets turned off because muh Q3A ex-quake-pro MLG heritage etc etc.

It's still a bit screwy in that image, though- check the intersection of the ceiling in the block's shadow.

>>3074551
>The light in Quake 3 falls off too quickly, and the rest of the room ends up looking too dark. I think what happens is that Quake 3 is technically accurate, but there is no gamma correction.
How many bounces do the rays make anyway?

>>3073857
>wrapping her arms around his muscled neck to hold on
That makes me hard.

>>3074219
>Rocket explosions are infinitely tall and you can kill things a hundred meters in the air or down in a chasm.
So that's why rockets hurt the Romero head and not the BFG! You learn something new every day...

How does this make you feel? And is there any way to make more of this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B38uNeP4O7M

>>3074523
>decide to see what it looks like in quake 1 to compare
>make quick map
>get this
>recompiling other test maps that I know work sometimes doesn't render any lights at all

I think something's gone wrong with my compiler.

>>3074552
It's r_lightmaps 1, so only lightmaps show.
Here is a comparison of quasi-HDR using gl_overbright and software mode, which resembles gl_overbright 1. I had to use D3D, as it doesn't work on modern OpenGL drivers.

>>3073885
The Sprite Fix wad fixes that iirc.

>tfw OCD but keep mapping myself in corners (vanilla mapping)
How do I get myself in these situations

>>3073857
>bara
>doomgirl
>girl

Buddy, I don't think you know what Bara is.

>>3074560
I want to lick Doomgirl's navel!

>>3074608

Yeah, girls don't even have yaoiholes.

>>3074220
Yes there is. On Celephais.net.

>>3074606
"Keep mapping myself in corners"
you what

>>3074283

Quake's enemy roster is just fine. The ogre and fiend are more fun and dynamic to fight than anything in Doom other than the revenant. The scrag is less spongy than the cacodemon and actually has a unique attack pattern that isn't just a copy of other monsters (cacodemon, imp, hellknight and baron all have the same attack style). And as you said, the shambler is a better semi-boss monster than the baron, who is slow and only poses a threat because of its massive amount of health, which is more tedious than challenging to deal with.

>>3074672

I think he means he gets creatively stuck in a corner

Where's the Doomguy version of Carl the Cuck

>>3074702

We don't mistreat Doomguy that way.

>finding an unmaker on map01

>>3074712
in DRLA i presume?

>>3074702
Who?

>>3074334
you ever get through the map?

Playing DOOM via Chocolate DOOM atm and I keep losing sound. Music, SFX, everything. It doesn't seem to matter what sound settings I have either. OPL, GUS, Native; doesn't matter. Setting up a fresh Chocolate DOOM fixes it for a while but eventually it cuts out again. Anyone else had this problem?

Is asking people to play on a server allowed here?
WhoDunIt isn't any fun with a handful of people.

I think I finished 2/3rds of this map. The final bit will be a reasonably heavy scripted mob encounter. In its current form you're basically done after grabbing yellow keycard. You can walk down the yellow door if you want, but it's just a big empty room.

Looking for critiqueon the up to yellow keycard bit. Difficulty, aesthetics, anything. A blatant "it's shit" is nice, but why it's shit is always nicer to hear. My second real attempt at a map. No secrets in yet either.

(Built and tested for zDoom)

https://my.mixtape.moe/htzjok.wad

It's supposed to be the first map of a longer wad

>>3074745
Dude, I've been having this problem on ZDoom... What the shit?

>MFW I made the cut for DUMP

thanks term

godammit i can't even stress how fucking annoying this garbage was.

i'm never touching it again, i really am not.

>>3074838
I made it too. Feels good to finally be part of a project.

Shadow Warrior Redux is on sale for a buck, is it a good deal?

>>3074875
Might as well, it runs way better than the original even though it costs money.
Still wish Shadow Warrior had an eduke32-style sourceport tho

Ketchup doesn't work with the latest GZdoom. What do?

>>3074889
My latest GZdoom flickers on the Options menus and in-game. It's fucking horrible. I just wanted to try Legendoom

I was wondering why E4M1 is a lot harder than I remember it, then I found out all the medkits vanish on UV difficulty.
On to E4M2!

>>3074906
t-there's medikits on E4M1?

>>3074847
What is it?
Also is that D64-inspired wad?

>>3074909
on all the bitch-made difficulties, yes there is

Playing through Epic 2 with Project Brutality. I wanted to bump the difficulty up part of the way through my playthrough, but I don't know all the weapon codes to give me my old inventory.

Anyone know the console commands? I know a few of the 'dropped weapon' ones but that doesn't cover the rocket launcher I had (and probably need to not die)

>>3074947
just use the skill command, it kicks in next map

>>3074957
I tried that and it didn't work

>>3074931
Someone's insecure.

>>3074957
>>3074968
Maybe it only works for stuff you'd see in the original doom's difficulty, aka changed spawns and maybe the respawn of Nightmare?

>>3074979
hm, well that's retarded

ChangeSkill() applies next map, the skill console command doesn't

>>3074972
It was more for humor's sake than actual posturing.

>>3074838
>>3074850
Same. God it feels so good to make something.

What's the easiest way to add a level-wide fog in UDMF maps? Is it the MAPINFO setting?

What's going on with E4M5 and all the unnecessary keys? Did I miss something?

>>3074714
Yes.

>>3074925
mapset is
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=48246

mod is d64_wmi_alt.pk3.

Doom 4 is a 64 remake, isn't it? I know bethesda keeps saying it's an outright reboot- but come on, this is way too 64-aesthetically styled.

>>3075083
>d64_wmi_alt.pk3
Anywhere I can download that?

>>3075086
What else would you expect from a modern game? Doom 64 had the best aesthetics of any of the 2.5d Doom games. Are you implying it's a "retelling" of a "story"? It's fucking Doom. You shoot demons. Everything else is just dressing.

>>3074889
Use 2.1

>>3074560
>wide hips
>meaty thighs

I bonered.

>>3074098
I think those may be dummy sectors to make floor, ceiling and lighting changes go just the way you want

>>3075115
Don't forget exposed midriff and low-cut pants.

Anyone knows any good DEHACKED (as in boom-compatible) weapon mods aside from smooth animation one?

>>3074560
Sauce on that?

>working clock (at least I think it does but I'm not going to sit here watching it for half an hour) in this map

If only it was synced to your computer's time.

>>3075171
>thinking about how much potential mapmaking would have if quake had a +use command
>google it
>turns out it does, it just literally doesn't do anything

CARMACK WHY

>>3075171
host_timescale Is the command I think - rev it up to 100 and watch the clock go.

>>3075205
Right you are, couldn't remember if Quake had something like that built in or if Quakespasm added it Source-esque.

Look at it go, wowzers. It even bongs when it passes the top! and when it hits midnight some sort of monster roar sounds as well which I don't intend to find out what it is

>>3075215
Nevermind, I'm a retard and was watching the wrong hand on the clock. The roar is actually Ranger's pain grunt glitching out.

>>3075203
Ranger shoots things instead of "using" them.

>>3075228
You can't blame him, really. 'Using' demon guts and hell-tech is one thing for Doomguy, everyone knows what Hell is, but 'using' eldritch abominations and their related material by the great old ones themselves seems like a really bad idea.

Googling for more information is fucking useless, as it turns out- even with proper quotation marks Google insists on replacing "+use" with 'used' and giving me totally irrelevant results.

Is there any functionality for it at all in the engine, or is it just a dummy command to be filled out by total conversion mods?

>>3075232
I can imagine that "use" is essentially just an invisible bullet. But I'm not sure.

>>3075235
Well, it apparently does jack shit in the vanilla game. Shame there's so much that can only be done by actual modding, not just mapmaking (another example- there's no way to do a full weaponless start in the base game because while there is coding for what to do if the player runs out of ammo and doesn't have the axe, apparently there's one line commented out that fucks the whole thing up).

>>3075246
You can alter the souce code for the engine of choice and make it so "+use" would actually do something.

>>3075263
>>3075246
On a side note, are there any weapon mods for quake that can be run with other mapsets and are not gimmicky arena-fests, like several other weapon mods Ive seen?

>>3075263
That means I have to actually learn to code, though. And more importantly, any maps I made with the extra stuff would have to be loaded as mods with their own entity file, which is way more likely to make someone not bother than just plunking a .bsp into the maps folder, opening the console and typing >map buttjew1.

>>3075091
had to rehost it though here it is
https://mega.nz/#!SkZUCASA!6UQyCOZHwU5muOeX7B8GQX7JpL32X5NIA3icIm716pU

>>3074673
>fiend
>monotone strafe-dodge garbage
>fun

>>3075275
Fiends are shit. Ogres are fun, though, in part because they're a zero-sum enemy if you use the grenade launcher- hit them with two nades, then get two nades back when they die, no worrying about ammo consumption as long as you can aim and know how Quake grenade 'physics' work.

so i've been playing brutal doom hell on earth maps, it seems alright, although sometimes ridiculously hard for some reason, at least on ultra violence.
One thing i miss from the original is intermission maps that show your progress between levels on the stage.
Also most hell levels are boring and suck, somehow colour pattern reminds me of minecraft. And i still can't find the goddamn BFG, i have a feeling i missed it somewhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zfp00OZuXCc

> no stupid executions.
> no childish taunts.
> no modern weapon behavior (reloading or aiming down the sights).
> actually enhancing the atmosphere of the original game.

Might be the first "Brutal" mod that I am legitimately interested. Hope it stays this way.

>>3075301
looks okay

>>3075301
sounds ruin it

>>3075301
Why do these retards insist on making the weapons loud as fuck while redesigning it so that you are expected spam the fire faster than the original chaingun shot?

Good atmospheric effects though.

>>3075314
Because firing guns indoors are actually absurdly loud. I should remember you that Linda Hamilton was left with permanent hearing damage after shooting the elevator scene of T2. A mod that aims to emulate the horrors and brutality of a warzone should include this kind of stuff.
Also this is aplha footage, he might change these sound effects.

>>3075301
>that shitty overdone bloom permeating everywhere
by the same creator who brought you 'brutal doom' alright

also i like how every 'xdeath' animation in this so far was basically an edit of the original spritework with the upper torso removed and the same gore sprites from brutal doom splayed everywhere

when this garbage releases there will be actual shitters out there going 'omg mark thank u 4 adding hands to the guns they look so much better that way THANKS FOR GRACING THIS MEDIOCRE GAME WITH UR MOD THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN', mark my fucking words

>>3075292
Do you mean BD Starter Pack "Hell on Earth", or BD with Doom 2: Hell on Earth?

>>3075301
This is Mark we're talking about. Executions and stupid shit will follow.

>>3075329
He's definitely talking about the Hell on Earth Starter Pack. I liked it a lot, but I have a boner for levels set on Earth. Some of the levels were too big and boring, though.

>>3075326
In games you have to prioritize feedback. You might as well throw in a ringing sound that never leaves during the game after the first shot if you wanna prioritize "realism" over gameplay. Also, the clear and crackling gunshot sound ill-fits 64's muddy soundscape.

Besides, I would expect that Doomguy's helmet has all kinds of hearing enhancers, including limitters.

>>3075328
>>3075301
This thing uses GzDoom64 mod as a base, which is a shitter version of Absolution with unadapted maps - look at the spiraling light at the end of Map01 - In this pile of turds its just lights blinking. Unless Mark would decide to fix this shit up.

Also guess what - all the "trendy" sites like Kotaku, nichegamer and vg247 already singing praises.

Anyone know of any good resources to get environment sprites? I'm looking for bubbling swamp water and some sprites for a waterfall splashing.

>>3075301
that's... more of the same, really.

the gore and over dependance on bloom and pretty visual effects look so fucking out of place and are so realistic looking that they clash with the original sprites by comparison by a fucking mileage. also that shotgun feels like a cheap reskin of the original brutal shotgun which feels in turn feels like shit.

I'm not even one of those brutal haters or the kind of guy who wants to run each and every brutal related project to relentlessly burn to the ground, but goddamn if I can tell this is going to be a fucking trainwreck.

I wonder how shitty those 'enhanced death sprites' he's coming up with are going to look like.

>>3075301
looks mediocre

I'm ready for all the brutal shitters and gamejourno website articles cocksucking him for 'bringing this obscure 90's game into the spotlight 20 years later in a refreshing gory take that's sure to blow your mind', because it's painfully fucking obvious that's what he wants

>>3075347
google "Shadow warrior textures"
some good water and waterfall textures / sprites and environmental efffects

>>3074280
I would do this with a global int.

-make "a" your global int
-have a script constantly running (or running from when the player enters the room) that checks to see if "a" is larger than 3. When it is, the floor lowers
-each time an imp dies it triggers a script that makes "a" increase by 1.


so at the start of your ACS file have:

#include "zcommon.acs"

global int 1:a;

script 1 etc etc


the your next free script will be:

script NEXT FREE (void) //this constantly checks to see what "a" is, once it reaches 4, it will lower the floor
{
while(true)
{
if(a < 3 )
{
}
else
{
raise floor
}
delay(2);
}
}

then each time an imp dies, it will trigger this script:

Script NEXT FREE (void) //this will increase "a" by 1
{
a++;
}
global ints are handy as fuck

>>3075274
oh god this is fucking amazing

>>3075272
if you can identify that "there is one line commented out that breaks everything" then you already know plenty about coding, i'd say.

>>3075337
realoading also fucks everything up.
It just does not fit with the pace of the game: you get a horde of monsters charging you and you have to reload every 6 rockets or so.

>>3074725
no, i went to bed. maybe i will try again later today, perhaps on a lower skill level

>>3075386
I don't mind it at all. I see it as a balancing tool. I was never much into vanilla Doom or Doom 2 though, so you guys would probably call me a Brutal baby. I come from Quake and Quake 3, so the speed of default Doom feels nauseatingly slow to me.

>>3075341

Man, thank God Kotaku got wrecked today. Or yesterday, technically.

>>3075024
well, i can't see how to avoid needing the red. but you are right the blue and yellow aren't needed because you can jump through a window at the end. you probably didn't miss anything.

Did Mark post here at some point?

>>3075017
The easiest way is to write an an acs loop that sets the fade on every sector from tag 0 to 200 or whatever. Or you know, zooming out to select every sector in the map and setting them all at the same time.

>>3075391
What do you mean?

>>3073857
>monster boys
Just go with real demons. No more anime trash.

>>3075339
I think the sharp cracking sound would be great if he'd just added a bit more reverb to it

>>3075403
I'm doing the sector method, which I guess works. Is there a way to fog out the sky, though?

>>3075374
Anon, global ints are for variables that are supposed to carry through a whole mapset. It's perfectly fine to use a normal map level integer in his case.

>>3075301
WTF is with those sound effects and weapon bob?
Other than that it looks okay.
Is there still the mighty boot?

Maybe. But it needs upper limitter as well. Make it more "BOOM", less "PBRCHK"

>>3075416
>I'm doing the sector method, which I guess works. Is there a way to fog out the sky, though?
That you have to do in the mapinfo lump. Just put "skyfog = 255" in the block for the level.

>>3075402

Yep, and naturally the word got out

>>3075408
Gawker media lost a 100+ million dollar lawsuit against hulk hogan for refusing to take down his sex tape from their website. Kotaku is owned by them.

>>3075301
>Early Alpha

Ah there's your explanation. All those unnecesary things like reloading and executions will probably be added later.

Also I can't remember but did the original Doom64 look like that? It's been a while since I played it but most brodal doom babbies use some terrible filtering.

>>3075440

I'm fairly sure the original N64 version used texture and sprite filtering, since it was new back then.

I didn't bother watching the video though, so maybe the filters in that are different.

>>3075339

>picture

Did gas piston died?

>>3075275

Instead of dodging a slow moving projectile like from most monsters in Doom, you dodge the monster itself so the placement of the monster keeps changing and you have to keep track of it. In that way, they're similar to lost souls but they actually pose a threat and have quick recovery rather than stupidly flying off to the other end of the map when you dodge. Unlike lost souls, their pounce has a limited maximum and minimum range, so you can either be too far away for it to hit or too close that they try to swipe at you instead. They don't fly so it's possible for them to end up in a level below you if they jump off a ledge and some maps encourage the player to exploit this weakness of theirs. In one of the Retro Jam 1 maps for example, the first enemy you face is a fiend and there's not a lot of ammo to go around so what you can do is bait the fiend into jumping into a lava pit.

Restriction of player movement is key in making encounters with them engaging. In vanilla Quake levels, the level geometry itself is usually used to keep the player on his feet when facing a fiend. However, other enemies can also be used like in some custom maps I've played. In Fallen from Grace for example, there's an encounter where you're in a narrow corridor and a door at the end opens to reveal a fiend so your first instinct is to run away, but you find out that there's a small horde of knights waiting at the other end. The level offers a broken segment of the balcony you can jump off to escape the encounter, but that part is closer to where the fiend is and if you first decided to run away from the fiend, then it may be too late to go back to it. The mapper was clearly trying to mess with the player's head and subverting his instinct to run away from a fiend to make a memorable encounter.

Is there a wad where I can blow shit up while shouting durka durka allahu akbar?

>>3075421
Got "Skyfog requires new MapInfo format"

>>3075456
Nevermind, figured it out. Thanks!

>>3075440
Doom 64 did use a bilinear filter, but this is GZDoom64 >>3075341, which is a luckluster GZDoom analogue of Absolution.

>>3075301
http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom-64/images/

>>3075452
It's predictable as fuck, it's boring.
I bet you think Serious Sam had good gameplay.

A lone firethrower isn't supposed to be challenging, the challenge comes with masses in cramped spaces. That's why massive empty arena maps in Doom are fucking stupid and the retards who design that shit have no idea how Doom plays.

>LegenDoom releases
>'oh hey I might as well try it out with colorful hell since i've been meaning to play that too'
>enter MAP01 of BTSX E2
>'death awaits etc'
>'black imp spawned'
>hold the fuck up
>recall the color of an enemy in coloful hell dictates its deadliness
>make the obvious connection that therefore white or black must mean ultimate fuckyou
>'I can't possibly have this much shit luc--'
OH GOD WHAT IS THIS WAKE ME UP

>>3075471
I think those look fine. Fire and brimstone. You might expect even fire to act more violently in Hell.

>>3075480
Looks distracting as hell and out of place to me. Too bright, trying too hard to look modern, waaaayy too many particles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQStCxtutKI

Anyone recognize the voice pack used?

It has a nice blend of originals', 64's and 3's effects.

>>3075472

I cited a very specific example which use the enemy in conjunction with restricted space to make an encounter which I clearly showed appreciation for. How do you get "I bet you think Serious Sam had good gameplay" from my post?

Challenge was never a part of the argument until you brought it up. If you're butthurt about me drawing a contrast between Doom's samey fireball throwers and the fiend, I did that to show the latter's different nuances in attack and movement characteristics to argue how it's more dynamic than most enemies in Doom. Your argument against my very specific points is only "it's predictable as fuck, it's boring". Well, predictability goes for every enemy in Doom and I'm not saying that the fiend isn't predictable nor am I saying that predictability is a bad thing, I'm just saying that the fiend is more dynamic than most enemies in Doom because it has all these nuances. The revenant in Doom is such a standout enemy because like the fiend, it's also quite nuanced in its attack patterns and unique from other monsters. It can be baited to melee instead of attacking with a projectile, its projectile modes has two modes, and it has a unique behavior that makes it counter-attack with a projectile at close-range instead of punching when it enters a pain state.

is it weird that I don't even play any retro fps games and just come to this thread for webms, screenshots and dank looking mods?

Yaoi HDoom mod when
H/d/oom mod when
Zombies in HDoom when
Female RomeroHead when

>>3075480
I'm sick of Mark's boner for putting miniature fucking suns on objects too small to hold that much fire/light.

>>3075516
Hopefully fucking never.
Seriously what is with you people and your obsession with everything needing to have a porn mod?
Jesus fucking Christ seek some help

>>3075518

>big ass coronas that clip into the level geometry

Terrible

>le shitter doom babby faec
:^)

>>3075530
What?

>>3075535
heehee :^)

>>3075535
Don't touch the feces so they dont stink.

>>3075541
googoo gaga doombabby :^)

>implying you dont have shit in your nappies right now

>>3075521
>>3075516
>no doomgirl, you are the boner!
>and then doomgirl grew a dick

>>3075485
Woah, that guy with the bizarre animations made an entire Doom wad?

>>3075543
>>3075541
>>3075530

I think we've got literal shitters in the thread.

>>3075521
>Seriously what is with you people and your obsession with everything needing to have a porn mod?
Uncle Bob, please, i already told you about the internet

>>3075402
he used to post here with a tripcode that started 7am ZZZ or some such, but hasn't for a long time (a year or more, i'd estimate)

>>3075524

I'm much more triggered by texture filtering. Who the hell likes blur?

>>3075579
Well bilinear filter was in the original, and all the sprites are made from pre-rendered 3D models, captured with antialiasing so your point is moot.

>>3075579

Technically, Doom 64 was designed FOR bilinear filtering.

But to answer your question. I fucking love blurry textures. Reminds me when I got my 3DFX card and I was fucking king of the world. All my friends would gather around my screen in awe. Seriously.

>>3075583

N64 used bilinear filtering for everything to make up for the pathetic texture memory of the system. The original Doom was nearest neighbor filtered.

And you're talking shit because the sprites have binary alpha that is clearly aliased. Sure the inner edges of captured 3d are antialiased against each other, but the edge of the character still shows its pixels.

Is Mark barred from uploading to idgames as well?

>>3075590
I meant the inner edges of course, dont be a fag.

>>3075596
AFAIK no, he is still not banned there. It has more to do with idgames being a poorist cesspool now so no GZDoom funmods allowed, unless they are a map.

What are some of the more popular maps, mappacks and mods (outside of BD) which popularity you don't get?

>>3075596
i don't think so. he's not banned from doomworld forums either.

>>3075609
Which means that technically he could upload the Hell on Earth Starter Pack.

>>3075616
>>3075609
gameplay mods don't go to idgames because they're never finished and idgames doesn't want to host 27 different versions of the same mod. or something like that. if you upload a new thing to idgames it tends to replace the old one. there are obviously exceptions, mistakes by the maintainer(s), etc.

>>3075516
>Female Romerohead

>>3074614
Don't they?
Then where have I been putting it?!

>>3075301
>> no modern weapon behavior (reloading or aiming down the sights).
I really like that stuff when done in a good way, or when the gameplay is in such a way that it fits.

Don't quite like how it's done in Brutal though.

>>3074725
i took your advice and reduced the skill level. here is a boom demo on -skill 2 in 12:10.

http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=ll85cq

i missed one monster and have yet to find more than one of the six secrets. however i haven't used the automap cheat, or looked at it in an editor yet.

>>3075610
Doom RPG. I think it's a pretty bloated and awfully designed mod with one of the worst rpg systems ever.

>>3075624
love how the water turns into blood when it exits the glass. the demons are bringing their own reality with them, just as it says.

>>3075624
>pick up Romera's head from the stick
>reverse throatfuck it

>>3075630

It's technically impressive but I feel it's weak on the gameplay side. And yeah Jesus Christ it's loaded with stuff

>>3075627
it's probably a lost soul who floated through a portal

I'm seriously tempted to make the damn things monster blocking, because while I love the shock factor of a cacodemon coming through, it makes 100%'ing so annoying

>>3075308
Yeah, as typical with Mark, the gunshot sounds he use are fucking terrible.

The GFX looks pretty slick tho, and the gore doesn't look as bloated or retarded as the BD I remember.

>>3075326
>Because firing guns indoors are actually absurdly loud.
True.

>Linda Hamilton was left with permanent hearing damage after shooting the elevator scene of T2.
Yeah, she forgot to put in her earplugs, what really hurt her ears was Arnold's 10-Gauge shotgun.

Other instances involve the movie Heat, where Val Kilmer, Robert DeNiro and Al Pacino all sustained some kind of hearing damage during the film (they had decided they weren't going to wear earplugs so that it would be more genuine), in particular the scenes where they rattle of full-auto fire with the CAR-15s from inside a car.

Bruce Willis sustained some hearing damage from the scene in Die Hard where he shoots the guy from under the table.

>A mod that aims to emulate the horrors and brutality of a warzone should include this kind of stuff.
I guess? But when it comes to Doom, unless you're doing Hideous Destructor, I'd prioritize pleasing design over accurate design. Realistic reloading animations? Sure, but I like an impressive muzzle-flash and gunshots that sound nice and varied.

>>3075627
>>3075648

>http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=ll85cq
oh, and you mind if I throw the demo into the zip file I'm making for it? I might upload it to /idgames later

figure why the hell not

>>3075650
wait no never mind I'm retarded it wouldn't work

>>3075147
Anyone?

>>3075648
>it's probably a lost soul who floated through a portal
lost souls don't count towards kill percentage in boom. i actually missed a sergeant in the hell cave section.
>>3075650
honestly i'd rather you didn't, because it's a shit demo

>>3075627
alright, so some things I noticed in your demo as I watched it at 400% speed:

- the secrets in this map don't actually involve much wall-humping at all - the closest it gets is opening up the back of a switch and dispelling a pillar of fire
- you checked the back of the wrong switch!
- you were so close to the soulsphere - you had the right idea getting onto that higher cliff ledge though, and it is a damn tricky jump to make (without zandronum's air physics, I usually need to SR50 it, though SR40 works too sometimes)
- I noticed that chaingun you couldn't grab, and closed that gap so that shouldn't happen anymore
- had the right idea with shooting the MARBFACE, but that wasn't the target that opened the secret

you had the right idea for four of the five secrets you missed, you were just applying it to the wrong things

oh yeah, is HNTR difficulty about where it should be? it looked about right for an easy difficulty by your demo

>I use Smooth Doom

>>3075690
Who are you quoting?

>>3075690
>I don't use Smooth Doom

>>3073838
m'plasma

>>3075480
I agree.

>>3075702
I bet you have monster movement -interpolation on as well.

>>3075694
how new are you?

>>3075709
I bet you don't even have smooth mouse movement + VSync enabled.

>>3075408
Hulkamania happened.

>>3075690
>>3075702
>>3075709
Stop this.

Try playing some doom instead of mapping for it. Maybe you'll get inspired. If you don't feel like playing, try watching someone else play doom, either through a speedrun or a stream.

>>3075092
>Everything else is just dressing.

I imagine now that all the demons in doom 4 will be just a bunch of various sentient bottles of ranch dressing.

>>3075709

What does monster movement-interpolation do anyway? Not that anon just curious.

>>3075002
So did I. Figured my map would be toward the end. I wonder how term's doing the hubs. If I'm still stuck with this cold when the test build comes out I might play through all the maps.

>>3075720
It smooths the movement, makes it glidy and totally fucking out of place.

>>3075339
I agree absolutely.

>filename

>>3075386
>It just does not fit with the pace of the game
Not to me, I've never really been fucked from reloading, you switch to another weapon that you have loaded if you have to, or you back off/dodge/take cover when you have to reload. It's very easy.

It's only really in SUAB where it's lead to me being raped, but SUAB is designed to be harder, conversely, most monsters are melee fighters so keeping your distance is the name of the game.

>Having a good time replaying DooM 2
>Downtown
Jesus fuck.
I there a worse official map?

>>3075729
Nirvana
The Pit
Suburbs
The Factory

>>3075668
disaster! i couldn't get the yellow key, i pressed all the buttons but this pictured platform sunk into the floor.

here is a UV demo, which i am sorry to say is over 30 minutes long, and does not finish, although i didn't die.

http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=st67za

i found a kind of strategy for the start, go to hell, grab blue armour, grab plasma, run back to techbase, kill things as they teleport through the gates. but it took several tries before monsters got out of the way quick enough.

the demo then gets slower and slower. so you might like to watch it on 800%. (heh, i do this too, i rarely watch demos slower than 200% speed, doom seems really slow when you're only watching)

i did get 100% kills and 5/6 secrets eventually (basically by cheating - i turned on the automap cheat at some point, and for the last two i had paused recording and was looking in an editor). i notice the final one requires the yellow key which i was denied, so i couldn't get the secret either.

>you checked the back of the wrong switch!
hah yes i needed the editor for this in the end
>you were so close to the soulsphere - you had the right idea getting onto that higher cliff ledge though, and it is a damn tricky jump to make (without zandronum's air physics, I usually need to SR50 it, though SR40 works too sometimes)
got it this time, now i know i'm supposed to go there.
>I noticed that chaingun you couldn't grab, and closed that gap so that shouldn't happen anymore
it is a sad fact that doom's pickup system treats everything as having height 8, not whatever it is set to in info.c.
>had the right idea with shooting the MARBFACE, but that wasn't the target that opened the secret
i got this one eventually with your hint.

>is HNTR difficulty about where it should be?
yeah i think so. "not too rough" == should not present any problem for an unskilled player.

>>3075625
>I really like that stuff when done in a good way, or when the gameplay is in such a way that it fits.
>Don't quite like how it's done in Brutal though

I once brainstormed by myself about how to redo some old shooter with reloading that doesn't impact the gameplay at all. For example a pump action shotgun could be semi-automatic instead, with the slide locking back when you fire the last shot. The mag would fall out and the player would replace it with a new one is exactly the same amount of time it takes between shots normally.

With a pistol you'd either have a ridiculously fast mag change, or you'd have dual pistols, that shoot in a left-right pattern that appears to be random, but actually it makes sure that boths sides don't run out of ammo at the same time. You can keep firing with the remaining ammo on the right side while changing the mag on the left, and vice versa.

Something like Doom's plasma gun is easy because it has a burst cooldown by default. Just make the animations so that after firing a certain amount of shots, the next cooldown animation is replaced by a reload sequence that is the same length.

The very first game that had reloading that I palyed was Duke3d, and it server no purpose. Every 16 rounds Duke would fumble around with a magazine, but the pistol was the only weapon that had that.

Another idea which I thought would be cool is emergency sidearms. A special weapon slot for a gun you could fire during reloading so that there is no sudden pause in your dps. Like a sawed-off shotgun or a micro uzi. Or an H&K grenade pistol loaded with white phosphorous and BEES.

>>3075729
The one that came just before it.

>>3075642
Yeah the CVAR trickery and everything is amazing.

>>3075729
>I there a worse official map?

Sounds cheesy, but it's true: Everyone Stops At The Pit.

>>3075732
... turns out the switch for that one was split into three lines.

fixed now

>>3075729
you will get (have got) a dozen different answers. everyone has their own unfavourite map.

>>3075165
Something hot I'm sure.

>>3075551
Yeah that's Cyriak. He did all the music too. It even has a custom boss at the end.

Soudn scripting confuses me.

I have a script that is supposed to play a hell knight sound when the player triggers it. The whole script is

script 3 (void) { //Knight Activate
PlaySound(0, "knight/active", 4, 1, FALSE, 0);
}

Isn't this supposed to play the Sound at 0, script activator (the player), the knight/active sound, at channel 4, max volume, nonlooping, non-diminishing with distance? All I get is... Silence

>>3075768
You probably just want AmbientSound for this, honestly.

script 3 (void) { AmbientSound("knight/active", 127); }

Also, there is actually a huge difference between "1" and "1.0". "1" is just 1, but "1.0" is internally 65536 - that's how Doom does fixed-point numbers. That's why you aren't hearing anything.

>>3075773
Thanks. Changing it to 1.0 worked, and Ambient Sound works too and seems simpler for this use.

Also, why won't this work for flickering lights? I mean I could use script with light raise, but it seems like there's an inbuilt function so I might as well use that.

>>3074579
sounds pretty cool.

I'm new to ACS (and scripting in general), can someone explain to me why this script isn't working properly?
It's meant to set a timer, and every time it reaches 0 the player gets 1 ammo for their weapon and the timer resets to 35 tics. What happens is that for some reason the timer isn't (re)setting, so the player gets ammo every tic.
Code was referenced off the hammer in DemonSteele.

http://pastebin.com/raw/WUZnJ0Vj

(Don't say "just set the delay to 35", because the timer won't always be 35 tics long. The script is just simplified to show the problem easier.)

>>3075734

Those are some sexy, sexy pistols.

>>3075802
>"DispChargeTimer"
You're supplying this as a constant string rather than a variable name. Lose the quote characters.

>>3075802

Remove the quotes around DispChargeTimer.

>>3075813
>>3075818
Ohh, I see now, I didn't know that, I'll have to read up on constants and variables. Thanks Anons!

>>3075802

What kinda weapon is this anon? I like recharging weapons

>>3075732
(replying to you since you're helping me make this map not break, which is nice)

I fixed the platform lowering thing (I don't know how I missed that honestly), got rid of the dumb gap, made the portals and one other line that should've been monster blocking, monster blocking; unstuck some shotgun guys in the natural area that got stuck occasionally, and added a demo of me beating the map on UV with no secrets, to prove that yes I actually did test the damn thing

didn't bother with passuse, and quite frankly I don't want to change it and have to record the fucking demo *again*

also it has a README now because yes

https://my.mixtape.moe/jhohia.zip

>>3075734
The reloading of the pistol in Duke Nukem (after every 12 rounds), is probably to make the weapon more distinct from the Ripper chaingun, it still shoots fast so that it's an actually useful weapon, but it doesn't have the rate of fire that the Ripper has, so you still have a reason to use each weapon.
They also have a separate ammo supply.

I think that you can easily fit Duke 3D style reloading for weapons in a Doom mod, pistol locks back empty, and the player immediately drops the empty mag in the same motion as he reaches for a new magazine, he inserts it and hits the slide release, this only takes a very brief moment and if you're holding down the fire button you'll continue shooting.

Shotgun would have you lock the pump back on the last shot, insert two shells at a time (like in Doom 3), for a 5 or 6 round magazine tube, then sliding the pump forward.

For rifles and subguns, similar to the pistol, drop the mag and reach for a new one in one smooth motion, then hit the bolt-release or rack the charging handle rapidly.
If it has a grenade launcher, show the breech slid open, spits out the empty casing, insert a new one and slam it shut.

Plasma can have an insinuated replacement of a battery load, rapidly, then the player hits a button, there's a quick beep with a slight exhaust of hot blue gas and it's ready to shoot.

Showy animations are nice, but efficiency has to be considered.

>filename
Those would be the stylized Duke Nukem deagles, not 47's Silver Ballers.

>>3075837
>Those would be the stylized Duke Nukem deagles, not 47's Silver Ballers.

I think you misread the filename. They're Steelballers, by yours truly. Balls of steel. 50 caliber BALLpoint, full STEEL jacket. No sights, no safety, no mercy.

>>3075809
>Those are some sexy, sexy pistols.

Thanks. I made them by combining the designs of several old promo images for Duke Nukem Forever.

>>3073831

I'm playing Switcheroom for the first time

What a nice mod, also fuck Episode 4 in that wad

So I decided to try my hand at mapping after a while and made something simple. It's nothing special, just a corridor with some monsters and such. Just trying to get back into mapping by doing something simple, basically.

If you wanna play it, go ahead and let me know what you think. Like I said, tho, it's nothing special.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/scpc90ywyrd6ddg/Test.wad

>>3075829
It's literally a rip-off of Unreal's Dispersion Pistol, sans upgrades. A simple starting weapon.

>>3075864
shitpost/10

>>3075865

I hope you're gonna make it at least a little bit better. The default dispersion pistol had pretty crap damage and the recharge time was a little sluggish.

Unless you still have punching too, then it's fine.

>>3074058
Are you deaf anon?

Honestly having a few stealth monsters is ok if it's done with the proper monster, like replacing the spectre with a demon with the stealth aspect, it's nearly what the originals were going for and lives up to the creators vision

>>3075864
thank

>>3075865
:^)

>>3075871
Is it a Terry-trap or something?

>>3075883
no, it's just dumb

>>3075883
>Oh it's a map on /vr/
>Level seems pretty basic
>Kill some shotgunners
>huh, I wonder how many monsters there are
>500+

I dunno, what do you think?

>>3075752

Why is Doom 2 full of bad maps?

Didn't really know what I was doodling but it eventually turned into contemplating imp-tan.

>>3075872
Everything's in early stages at the moment, it's currently pretty weak with crappy slow projectiles. I do have punching, but doomguy's default punching is pretty piss weak too. It's pistol with primary fire, punching with alt fire. (player does start with a pistol, but it has no ammo)

>>3075881
I miiight have it be upgradable via chainsaw pickup, dunno yet.

>>3075901

>pistol with primary, punch with alt

This is the best way to do it.

>>3075886
Final level of Going Down had closer to 1000 enemies.

>>3075864
that is some terry wad shit.
Warning Jumpscare alert /!\
made me laugh

>>3075889

I grew up with Shareware Doom and Final Doom, and even though I eventually got all the games and I really like the full version of Ultimate, I never learned to appreciate Doom2. I just think TNT has more interesting level design. All of its original music tracks are kickass also. Plutonia can eat shit with its difficulty though. I don't recall ever getting past Caged on UV. The other difficulties are a blast though. I just suck.

Does anyone know how to play Wolfenstein - Blade of Agony on GZDoom? Every time I drag the folder to the application it keeps giving me a script error.

>>3075864
Where's my reward, faggot?

I just turned off Monster Interpolation for the first time in ZDoom and the monster movement looks like fucking shit, dear lord. It's so jagged and fucked up looking.
Why are you people so against it?

>>3075930
Zip the files and drag them to the application, expect some fps drops though since the mod doesn't fuck around with 3D models

>>3075946
It's basically the same to animation as bloom is to graphics.

>>3075957
There is absolutely nothing wrong with bloom per se.

Edgy Teenagers: The Thread

Quake is better

>>3075836
nice demo especially considering you didn't use any secrets. i never thought of making a brief stop in caveland for the chainsaw first.

here's a boom UV max recorded on the new version in 13:44. blocking the portals so nothing can chase you back through made it significantly easier.

http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=ti00mx

one more thing though, i don't think it is possible to get back in from the easter egg behind the yellow key. unless you're supposed to be able to jump and crouch at the same time but i can't seem to get that to work in zdoom 2.8.1.

>>3075975
Taking the bait, but
Where is my Sonic Robo Blast for Quake

>>3075976
you have to tap jump, not hold jump, or you don't crouch

>>3075975
Multiplayer perhaps.

Anything else no.

Rate shitty level, webm part 1/2

>>3075989
Part 2/2
Only just couldn't get the killing of hell knights in, but after you kill them the level is over.

>>3075981
all right, it took a few tries, but i got it to work. apologies for lack of skill at new school doom extra controls heh.

>>3075989
The switch hunt in the copypasted square rooms doesn't look too good.

>>3075975
>implying quake isn't edgy teenager doom
:^}

>>3075989
>>3075994
wolfenstein/10
it looks really flat, and almost all ceilings are at the same height
try to add more definition around doors and play with heights a bit more, maybe?

>>3075989
needs more monsters. it doesn't make sense the you built giant corridors that has 1 badguy.

>>3075989
>>3075994
started off well, and i liked the hell portal teleporter thing but the middle section just going through endless near identical doors and corridors looked boring

>>3075976
heh, and see I didn't believe running through the hell area first thing would pan out very well, but yeah I guess if the portals block off the dudes that makes it a lot better of a choice

I think I may un-block the portals and rearrange the areas so that techbase is at the bottom, and hell's at the top, y'know so they won't follow you into tougher areas but they'll readily follow you into easier areas

'course then you could just leave them there but at that point, why not just kill them

also how DARE you hit the berserk-secret switch from all the way down there (that's actually pretty funny)

most importantly, did you enjoy the map? I mean, I did, but I made the thing so that doesn't count

>>3075997
Did Quake ever caused school shootings?

BY THE WAY

i love how everyone is posting demos and gameplay videos now

keep it up!!

>>3076005
ahaha the revenants in the cave just kinda looked at you for a little while like "u w0t"

that shouldn't be funny but it is

>>3076008
and shit I just noticed the brick misalignment

fuck now i *gotta* update it

>>3076006
Don't you even fucking dare.

>>3076006

No, but said mass shooters also played quake and they also had a webpage with stuff in it.

PLEASE do some actual research before trolling.

>>3076013
>>3076014
I was making a serious question, Jesus Christ people calm down

>>3075996
Switch hunt is less switch hunt and more just light switches for the rooms. That's all they do. I just went for 100% to show level and randomly decided to hit a few switches.

>>3076003
>>3076004
I'll revamp the middle section, agree that it's bland at best. Thanks for tips

Do you think we're in for a pleasant spring?

>>3076016

please go back to /b/ and stay there until you actually learn how2troll outside of it

>>3076018
I'm liking this aesthetic.

>>3075982
Shit meme.

>>3076020
>still thinking its bait
i am actually worried now

>>3075952
Tried that, all it does is just send me to the default Doom game. Same with Doom II

>>3076031
Here is the inside of my zip file, when you download it it comes like this, at least it did with me

>>3076037
>ENDOOM.ans

heh

>>3075171
I built a working clock in unreal a long time ago. Took me a while to get it to keep proper time, and even then I didn't watch it for long enough to be absolutely sure.

Thief 2 had working clocks iirc...

>>3076037
I have the same thing as you. I tried the process a few times and it's still not working

>>3075171
>>3076046
I remember someone doing a working clock in Duke Nukem 3D. IIRC it's this map
http://msdn.duke4.net/hotnitro.php

If not this one, another one by that author but pretty sure that's the one.

>>3076006
Two Swedish teenagers died after they stole a AT4 from a armory and tried to rocket jump in 1996-1997.

>>3076056
maybe its related to gzdoom? i remember it not working with me because it wasn't updated, otherwise i have no idea

>>3076063
> after they stole a AT4 from a armory and tried to rocket jump
Hope they at least bent their knees, fucking casuals

>>3076025
>everything is a meme

Fuck right off back to /v/
I played Quake and didn't see what was so great about it. It's not 1996 anymore, just because it's the first 3D FPS doesn't mean it's hot shit.

What's the best way to play Shadow Warrior?

>>3076063
Don't IRL-rockets not explode on impact? They have like timer or something in the fuse?

>>3076109
I played the Classic Redux edition on Steam and it worked well for the most part.
Mouse control was a little weird but I got used to it

hm, I dunno if it's worth trying to keep the "monsters following you through portals" thing

if I move the areas around like pic related they do eventually end up in the techbase area if you're in there, but if you're in the cave area they could very well find their way to the techbase and get lost

but that could happen anyway, so iuno

if I had ACS I'd just do a ClassifyActor check and if it's a monster, teleport the monster to whichever zone you're in, but I don't have that

>>3076109
classic redux

>>3076109
DOSbox.

There are two sourceports, SWP and Redux, but neither is really good imo. SWP tends to be glitchy and Redux doesn't even have the original 8-bit 2.5D video renderer.

>>3076109
The remake.

>>3075851
Ah, yeah, I misread.

Steelballer typically refers to one of these though.

>>3076063
Source or I don't believe you.

>>3075946
This.
I don't get why people have such a hateboner for it, or what it even does wrong.
It only looks okay in vanilla, with the 30fps cap.
Otherwise it makes any monsters look ridiculously out of place.

>>3076105
>It's not 1996 anymore
That's pretty irrelevant as far as your opinion goes. I agree that it's not the greatest, but I think that mostly comes down to the weapons for me. Both shotguns feel a little weak, even if the doulbe barrel does decent damage. The grenade launcher and rocket launcher feel solid, and the super nailgun is pretty okay. The rest feel kinda pithy though.

Otherwise it's a pretty fun game. Better than Quake 2 imo, and most levels hold up pretty well today.

>>3076105
I played quake and thought it was the best FPS I had ever played at the time. Because it was. 2.5D cant compare to 3d level design and general MIDI music cant compare to pre recorded audio.

The only good things about Quake were the graphics, aesthetics, and the sound design.

>>3076176
The movement is fluid as fuck, and some of the monsters are well designed. There are things it could've done better, but the being the first 3D FPS it did a lot right. I still play it on my phone occasionally and weirdly enough it ends up being one of the best FPS games on wii. Other games have outpaced it, but "if I have touched the sky" and all that.

>>3076176
The level design was the best thing about it imho

>>3076193
This opinion is only valid for everything pre-episode 3.

>>3076179
>I still play it on my phone occasionally and weirdly enough it ends up being one of the best FPS games on wii.

>>3076167
To me Quake's weapons feel terrible. Most of it has to do with the death animation of enemies. Or lack thereof. In Doom every enemy has a satisfying death animation that makes the whole thing fun. In Quake, every time falls over when they die. The only exception is gibbing but even Doom did that better.

Also the BFG just shits all over the Thunderbolt.