/vr/ - Retro Games

===NEWS===

[03-08] Spellcross Arena V1.01 now available
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=49873

[03-07] Hello World 0.7.1 - 4 maps plus secret
https://mega.nz/#!r4RRWYoJ!7ARDjyqzv4siGM9jvMatehrFlYH7ntGrv7suxyUreGo

[03-07] Sawdust, seven maps cut from Valiant, by skillsaw
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/86554-sawdust-valiant-scrap/

[03-04] Anon map release: Dark and Dreary final edition
>>3042602
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ry4x8qijhqcjqk5/Dark%20and%20Dreary%20Final.wad

[03-04] Anon map release: helltour.wad
>>3041418
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4mwJRa7e5VpRElIeVdzRDNkckU/view?usp=sharing

[03-02] Anon mod update: d64_wmi_alt.pk3
>>3037951
https://mega.nz/#!yhIgVBAR!bTBnJbAH5exrjVu_uN9qrQpZuGtdYEnYr5naNKXiAoU

[03-02] Miasma, by tourniquet
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/86466-

[03-01] DUMP (Doom Upstart Mapping Project) part 2
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=51072
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1567594

[03-01] Anon map release: Skyscraper Speedmap
>>3034557
https://www.dropbox.com/s/p7ws00ra123vnq8/skyscraper%20speedmap.wad

[03-01] Reminder: 64K ZDoom mod contest
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=50859

[02-29] Combined Arms v1.0 released
>>3033406
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=51066
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8380892/Combined_Arms%20releases/Combined_Arms_V1.0.pk3

[02-29] Anon map release: A Dumb Sewer In Two Hours (2hr speedmap)
>>3032907 >>3032953
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v04va9b87tgkln7/A%20Dumb%20Sewer%20in%202%20hours.wad

[02-29] Anon map release: complab.wad (WIP)
>>3032276
https://mega.nz/#!fg1ihKaK!0-QoHYwRTKsMFtv9AiZWMxffPpmdzpdEI60e2YdqXas

[02-29] A Morte (Hexen mod) updated
>>3031476
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=50891
http://www.mediafire.com/download/gru0p464m87y25z/A+Morte_195.rar

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To submit news, please reply to this post.

NO BULLYING

Oh and I don't know why they deleted our last thread. But here we are.

So when do you think BTSX3 will be done?

>>3052381
It was because it autosaged.

>tfw you're trying to make an indoor building within a sector with a 3D floor roof.
>tfw you have no idea what the fuck you're doing

I may just go with a different concept, I'm in way over my head

>>3052440
>floor roof
yeah you are

>>3052442

Well to my knowledge there's no other way to make a building you can walk into within a sector that's not straight up into the ceiling.

Where's the old thread? Why is it deleted instead of archived?

>>3052401
Beta release could be later this year at the earliest (E1 had its beta released in 2012, and E2 had its in 2014).

Dunno when it'll be finished though.

>>3052446
You can make a border sector around the building and lower this sector's ceiling (while keeping the newly made ceiling walls untextured), thus lowering the sky around the building and making it look shorter. you won't be able to see over the building, though.

>>3052460
It autosaged.

>>3052486

Given how green and borderline retarded I am. This may be the wisest thing to do. I'll give it a shot, thanks anon

>>3052420
>>3052493
It was outright deleted, it didn't just fall off the board. It would've been archived if it did.

Spellcross guy here.

I'm trying to host a server online on Zandronum/Doomseeker. it appears on the master server list but uses my local IP on its address info (not broadcasted only to LAN) but the standard IP appears on the host infomation.

I can't tell if no can join my server or if no one will join in general.

>>3052508
it was literally on page 10

>>3052515

information*
It should work if I pass my IP, but I need to know if it appears as a 1/8 player playing server on doomseeker

>>3052508

>>3052381
>>3052508
I have a feeling 4chan's archive system is broken atm.

>>3052518
Threads don't get wiped immediately after they've stopped bumping and have fallen off the board.

They spend about 2 or 3 days in the temporary archive before being wiped off the board.
Previous thread was outright wiped without passing the archive, suggesting a mod or janitor prematurely deleted it.

>semi sequence break and grenade jump onto a rooftop
>go through half the secrets backwards
>circlejerk around with half a dozen keys hoping to find the last whatzit
>open the door with the key from the other door from the key from the door
>get socks

Somewhere, a child cries. I feel nothing.

>>3052503
If you're curious, this is what that little structure looks like in zdoom, as you can see it cuts off the back wall, so it's not perfect and has to be worked around.

>>3052532

Yeah I changed my mind on doing that method, I somehow broke the entire ceiling and made GZDoom builder crash.

I don't think I'm cut out for mapping.

>>3052534
Whatever you end up doing with your map Anon, don't stress out about it too much!
I didn't know GZDoom builder was that unstable

>>3052547

Nah, it's not the program, it's me. I have no idea what the hell I'm doing.

I want to go back to making weapons but I've been pressured into making a map.

>>3052381
>>3052420
>>3052460
>>3052493
>>3052508
>>3052518
>>3052523
>>3052528

Can you fucks stop giving a shit, it's gone.

>>3052534
>made GZDoom builder crash.
Sometimes when you divide or copy/paste a sector it doesn't form a new sector properly so you need to use the "make sectors tool" and just click around a bit.

Don't give up yet, you'll miss out on a lot of fun if you do. just experiment with no pressure.

>>3052528
Post more BFG

>>3052559

I changed the texture of a ceiling. I'm getting a weird warning about a patch being referenced twice and I can't find the source of it either.

>>3052564
What format are you mapping in? (like when you make a new map and get to choose between "Doom", "UDMF", "Doom in Hexen" etc)

>>3052569

UDMF with Zandronum ACS

>>3052558
Why are you mad about people being concerned about this?

Doom 4 multiplayer trailer

https://youtu.be/kNFUAH3V1U4

spoiler

it looks boring

>>3052558
NO
#justicefor3048857
#handsupdontdelete

>>3052571
Because it has nothing to do with Doom and nobody here can do anything about a deleted thread, get the fuck over it.

>>3052583

It has to do with doom THREADS though.

>>3052575
>They removed almost all of the level's colored lighting
God, it looks fucking awful without it.
Thanks you fucking "LE PISSY FILTER" faglords.

>>3052575
If you mean the trailer looks boring then that is your opinion.

If you mean the multiplayer itself looks boring then fuck you edgelord, it's doing some unique shit.

>>3052583
>Because it has nothing to do with Doom

Yeah, threads about doom, that may contain some useful content, are not doom related. right.

>and nobody here can do anything about a deleted thread,

Yes, but it would be nice to know why it happened. Its not something that normally happens.

I'm playing DRPG and DRLA together, and occasionally I'm getting a chime, then something that looks like a little PDA or screen is popping up in the lower middle of my screen - says I think "PP" in blue letters... What is this?

>>3052592
Pissfilter is bad.

Bland shittastic color is bad.

Why can't we just have neat, colorful levels, like, I dunno, Doom had?

>>3052592

Sup the civ

>>3052593

The demon runes put a really neat spin on the multiplayer but most of the actual MP footage we've seen leaked is pretty bland man.

>>3052575
Announcer sounds so bored of it all.

Needs more life in that.
The glory kill on the Baron was a bit neat

>>3052575
I doubt I'd be playing the MP, anyway.

Honestly wish they did campaign coop, instead. No one fucking plays MP modes for deathmatch anymore.

>>3052595
>Useful content
>Implying you can't find this content elsewhere
>Implying 4chan content is original
>Implying losing a couple pictures and links is the end of the fucking universe

>>3052575
Oh god that movement is so slow.
Could we at least get some real gameplay instead of a trailer? That would be nice.

>>3052607

The glory kill on the fatty was cool too. But man I'm still super wary about all of this.

>>3052609

What this guy said though, the single player is what I'm really curious and concerned about.

>>3052604
That's what I mean, the Demon Runes, the Static Rifle, certain gamemodes - they are unique, at least to some degree.

Pre-release MP footage is always bland because they don't use footage from people who are actually good, they seem to think footage of 50 year old cunts who don't play every day make for excitement.

>>3052558
>>3052583
>>3052610
You're appearing worse than the people you're complaining about.

>>3052620

No man. I'm talking about the leaked MP footage we've gotten all over the place because of early alpha access guys breaking the non disclosure thing to share footage with people. It's not looking so hot.

>>3052593
you make me laugh anon, I like you

>>3052593
Hello, marketer. How much is Bethesda paying you per post?

>>3052592
What are you talking about? If anything you can see the coloured lighting of the map clearer without a filter.

>>3052575
>those fucking ugly gun skins

I thought this was trying to be Halo, not CoD

>>3052604
>Sup the civ
Literally who?

>>3052626
>>3052636
So your argument is, the MP looks boring because of videos we have from the ALPHA that are 5 to 3 months old?

Isn't the purpose of an alpha to get testers to report on what's good/buggy and what isn't? It would be reasonable to assume the MP may be different at release, especially when servers get full, custom servers come through with modded values and player counts.

Use your fucken head.

>>3052593
Marty go home.

>>3052575
Now I haven't played any Halo ever, but all those differently colored marines really make me think of Halo. Just saying.

>>3052581
fucking kek

>>3052575
Not feeling the music.

Otherwise it was ok. They showed a new gun, wonder what that is.
>>3052593
>If you mean the multiplayer itself looks boring then fuck you edgelord, it's doing some unique shit.
Not necessarily at odds there. But I agree that it's doing some unique stuff.
>>3052607
True.
>>3052659
Doom always had different colored marines.

>Demon Rune turns you into demon
>Finishing moves
>"LOOK AT THE BLUD GUYS!"
My only problem with DOOM 4 is how they just looked at Brutal Doom and other mods like it, never looked anywhere near the original game or anywhere else for inspiration.
It's almost like they started making DOOM 4 when Brutal Doom was REALLY popular. Why not just "remake" the original DOOM style of "Regular guns, regular demons, shoot things, get keys"? Why does the game ALSO have to look like HALO and have space lasers for EVERY gun, wasn't the BFG and plasma gun enough space age shit?

>>3052678
>space lasers for EVERY gun
what the fuck are you talking about

>>3052681
I am referring to the cartoon weapon designs, looks like some reject guns from Borderlands.

>>3052678
By all means, you are free to play Doom II and the inevitable Doom2016 TC mod, and any other wads that come out after Doom 2016 releases.

The rest of us will actually play something new.

>>3052684
you are actually blind

>>3052685
If you want to pay for HALO clone being sold by Bethesda. please no ones stopping you from eating your shit with a grin on your face.
Continue to not know anything about a seriers and then buy the "remake" and act like you were a fan all along like most kids, while shitting on the source material because "THAT SHITS OLD GRAMPS."

>>3052686
>>3052685
>>3052684
>>3052681
DOOM 4 Viral marketing defense squad.
What is working at Bethesda like?

>>3052685
>play something new
Where do you think you are?

>>3052691
>HALO clone
this is what retards actually believe

>>3052693
In a Retro thread that constantly posts Doom 4 images and info.

>>3052703

Hey now, we also post skeletons and other stupid shit.

>>3052691
I didn't realise you knew exactly who I was, and that you knew better than I how long I've been playing Doom.

Oh wait, you're a faggot. I'm accused of shitting on a series, even though I'm hyped for the 4th entry of it? the fuck kind of argument is this

Closed Beta dates were finally announced, March 31st to April 3rd. According to the site it seems like there's no NDA this time so expect more footage for those who aren't in it.

doom.com/beta has the details, though the site's clearly struggling with people trying to access it. Weird that the Revenant is still the only demon available, was expecting at least the Baron.

>>3052607
I loved the monotone computer AI announcer from the Alpha, really fit with the "simulation" thing they were going for. The one in this new trailer shows a bit more emotion than the Alpha version, so I guess they took peoples' feedback there. I kind of hope the old voice is still available though I doubt it.

>>3052698
>Giant gravity-less jumps
>Over designed future weapons
>Multi-colored battle suits (Looks nothing like UAC marine design and ALOT like a certain "Master Chef")
>Looked like a 2-hit melee system
>Throwable energy shield looking like that protection dome from Halo 3
The Multiplayer characters look so much like a Spartan, are you in hard denial anon?
It's just so apparent to anybody who has ever seen HALO ever. Have you? Or are you just trying to defend this game that isn't even out yet that it's amazing and original even though you never played it?

>>3052678
I personally believe that the statements made by this anonymous post are true.

>>3052719
the original comment was talking about sp
new doom's sp is nothing like halo's

>>3052678

If they really were just trying to copy Brutal DOOM exactly then why don't the weapons have reloading?

>>3052678
>Space lasers for EVERY gun

Pistol, Assault Rifle, Shotgun, Super Shotgun, Chainsaw, Chaingun, Grenades, Rocket Launcher

I think it's a more interesting question how a fucking double barrel ends up on Mars.

I suppose after two pretty good threads we were bound to descend into vitriol after some point.

>>3052710
Fuck off Jimmy,
Your the one who got all uppity about "IF you don't like it just play more DOOM 1 and 2"
Why don't you just fuck off to /v/ and talk about memes and DOOM 4 all you want, instead of shitting on DOOM 1 and 2 and saying "UH, no I love those games too man let me fit in"


I am sure your going to keep posting about how awesome this new game will be regardless though, and keep digging a deeper hole instead of just going to /v/.

>>3052719
>Doom comes out in 1993
>Halo copies Doom and Starship Troopers
>"DOOM LOOKS TOO MUCH LIKE HALO"

>>3052736
This wouldn't have happened if the previous thread hadn't been deleted.

>>3052736

Oh relax anon. It's early in the morning and most of us are sleeping. I'll be floundering around in my mapping attempts later, and I might actually have more cool shit to show off for it.

>>3052742
My fuck shut the fuck up cunt you know dates, now if only what you wrote down was intelligent or relevant to the situation. Were are talking DOOM 4 you dumb, dumb shit, who cares if you know dates, look this guy knows some dates whoopdee fuck.

>>3052528
Holy Shit post moar gun girls

Anyone that thinks that the new DOOM looks like HALO needs to fucking off themselves.
It's a fucking meme that's only going to die when the game comes out.

>>3052748

Holy shit man, you alright over there?

>>3052748
You dense mother fucking cunt.
What he wrote down makes total sense.
You're the blithering faggot here who can't form a real fucking sentance.

>>3052738
How is saying "If you don't like the new one, you can still play the old ones + wads" shitting on the originals? I'm literally telling you to go play them.

What the fuck do you want Doom 4 to be? Should it be pixellated with no vertical look? Fuck me cunt, why would you want a game to be literally the same 23 years later?

>>3052753
Why is this fact so hard to accept for you faggots?
People are not saying it's going to play the fucking same but Jesus Christ, the MC looks like fucking Master Chief OK?
I know that just rocked your world but that is why most people say it looks like Halo, the moon jumps, master chief marine and all the fucking laser guns. Stop denying it.

>>3052692
>I'm a reactionary autist

>>3052761
It would be more appropriate to claim Master Chief looks like an extension of Doomguy.

And ALL the laser guns? There's 2 or 3 in SP (Plasma Rifle, BFG, Gauss Rifle).
The Rifle, Pistol, Rocket Launcher, Chainsaw, Shotgun, SSG, and Chaingun are not laser weapons.

Remember, report and ignore

fuck off IMX, and fuck off doom babbies

>>3052758
>DOOM 4 looks like HALO
>"Halo copied DOOM and starship troopers"
>Bethesda's DOOM 4 looking like HALO is fine because HALO looked kinda like DOOM
NO actually I would be fine if what he said was smart, but it was fucking dumb what the shit does the original HALO taking SOME cues from DOOM have to do with DOOM 4 looking EXACTLY like HALO? The original HALO didn't look exactly like DOOM so go fuck yourselves, it took INSPIRATION, it didn't just make the same game like bethesda's doing.

>>3052486
cool trick!!
never thought about doing this but i'll only work if there's no tall buildings behind it right?

>>3052773
on behalf of /vr/.
kill yourself.

>>3052761
What the fuck are you on m8?
There's no fucking moon jumps in the game, and god damn, Master Chief knocked off Doomguy, not the other way around.
You just want to find reasons to hate the game so you fucking scream and bitch like a fucking toddler about every little thing you can find, and when you can't find anything, you resort to calling it a fucking HALO clone.

>>3052558
Fuck off, homo janitor/mod.

>>3052760
Wow here is an idea, what if we didn't need a remake because the orginal game is still here and always will be?
You faggots act like DOOM 4 needs to be made and if you are not accepting of it your stuck in the past, when really all I want is good quality.
>What the fuck do you want Doom 4 to be? Should it be pixellated with no vertical look? Fuck me cunt, why would you want a game to be literally the same 23 years later?
Yea, that would sell better too, what you WANT another 3D grey space shooter? Why? You guys have the logic that as long as something is made its amazing.

>>3052719
>Over designed future weapons
What exactly do you call the BFG in Doom 1 and 2?

>Looks nothing like UAC marine design
Because it's reasonable to expect that in a new, modern version of Doom, space marines are literally wearing a vest, trousers and boots with his stomach and arms showing - instead of a fully enclosed metal combat suit.

>>3052785
Fuck this, I know its a HALO clone, how I am supposed to deal with Viral marketing and deranged fanboys.

>>3052794
This is the most fucking retarded post I've read in years.
Jesus fucking lordie.
How god damn retarded do you have to be to think that a literal fucking map pack for DOOM II called DOOM 4 would be better than a whole new, AAA game.
Just fucking kill yourself m80.

>Average brown Halo-esque shooter
>"NO ITS NOT WHY ARE TRYING TO SOIL THIS INSTANT CLASSIC?"
>"There is nothing wrong nor ever will there be wrong with DOOM 4 it is perfect."
>"Brutal Doom? Hogwash, your just jealous of DOOM 4 and that it spends more time at the gym than you."
>"Shush the retro forums wants nothing more that DOOM 4 talk."

>>3052802
>I know its a HALO clone
So you're just stuck in your own delusions, is that it?
You can't accept that you're wrong, so you keep closing your eyes and telling yourself "IT'S A HALO CLONE! IT'S A HALO CLONE! I KNOW IT IS!", until you think that it's the absolute truth?

>>3052794
>what if we didn't need a remake because the orginal game is still here and always will be?
Exactly, it'll always be here. How does Doom 4 releasing prevent you from playing Doom 1?

Everything you've said would imply you would be fine with just Doom 1 and 2, and you've even said that you would want 2016 to be literally the exact same game as 1993.
All you have to do is fuck off, load up Doom1/2, loads up some wads you haven't played, and shut the fuck up. Unlike you, not everyone is a underage child.

>>3052805
>This is the most fucking retarded post I've read in years.
Jesus fucking lordie.
How god damn retarded do you have to be to think that a literal fucking map pack for DOOM II called DOOM 4 would be better than a whole new, AAA game.
Just fucking kill yourself m80.
What? Where do you think you are, YES YES, MAP PACKS ARE BETTER THAN DOOM 4.

How god damn retarded do you have to be to think that a literal fucking remake on XBONE called DOOM 4 would be better than a whole new, 32-map megawad?
Just fucking kill yourself m80.

>>3052815
Go and play a 32-map megawad then, there are literally hundreds out there.

>>3052813
Wow your actaully upset? You sound pretty upset anyway, just fucking relax man, after reading these posts that's what I am gonna do, take the autism easy my main man and chill it? You sound like you need it. :))

>>3052819
Listen I already know you guys have an issue and get upset when I wrote these words down so like I am sorry didn't think it was going to blast your ass.

>>3052815
You're just a delusional faggot then.
There's a shitton of Megawads out there for you to waste your time on.
Now stop shitting on other people for being like normal fucking human beings and being excited for a new, well produced product.

>>3052823
>2009
>hehehe UMADBRO?!
>le trolld

Again guys forget I shit on DOOM 4 if your really that upset I am sorry, and it looks really cool just calm and smoke a bit ok? Like may

what is happen

>>3052823
>>3052824
>what is power level xD
lol

tryhard sack of shit

>>3052829
Again sorry I have to go thats an awesome game dude, cool memes too love the memes, awesome forums cool people. But see ya guys, relax.

At what stage are we at in the comic here?

mods

>>3052835

looks to me like people need to chill out, stop shitposting and do some do-it.wad

>>3052838
maybe the part withe the dynamite catchphrashe?

>>3052846
catchphrase

>>3052846

Holy shit wait, no look.
>>3052839 is comparable to the "MOOOOODDDDSSS"

and here's the "ignore the shitposters, look at this screenshot" post >>3052843

>buying a Doom game without modding

>>3052838
/v/ walking in or the mods part

>>3052838
>>3052839
>>3052852
Holy fuck, within 4 seconds of each other

>>3052838
>/v/ walks in and talks about DOOM 4
and then he keeps talking about DOOM 4, lots, and people start to shitpost about DOOM 4.

>>3052775
Pretty much! Basically it works the best when the short building doesn't have large things behind it or they are far away. You can have a short structure next a tall one too, as long as you don't let the player position themselves in a way that ruins the illusion.

Anyone reckon a Project Brutality mod may come for Doom 4? It's already taken a few nods from it like the weapon upgrades, but I really love all the demon variants Brutality does as well.

>>3052853
>Not buying a game just to enjoy the base experience
Wolf TNO had literally no mod support, not even SnapMap, and it was still fucking great.

Its a good start but next time the OP pic should be DOOM 4.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/379720/?snr=1_5_9__300

I am enjoyig the low pre-order price of DOOM 4, what are you guys liking aout DOOM 4 so far? Is it the box art of the marine holding the gun chosen by fans*?

>>3052867
It really wasn't that good. It was just okay.
It was another linear hallway shooter with lots of cutscenes.
The only good parts of the gameplay were the occasional arenas, but they all had the same setup throughout.

I'm really sad I lost the colored version of this

>>3052867
>fucking great
Eeeh, I wouldn't call it "great". It was okay, but nothing amazing.

>>3052869
Stop trying to stir up more shit, passive agressive faggot.

>>3052774
I'd say it took more inspiration from Marathon, Bungie's FPS previous to Halo oops I mean HALO, but we're getting off topic here. Back to the shitfest I guess.

>>3052871
Yeah I wasn't really overwhelmed from what I played of The New Order. Gameplay is okay but the setting and dialogue's just depressing.

Is Yholl doing 4chan beta of LegenDoom? Kinda interested.

>>3052879

>marathon

I still giggle at the sound the Pfhor makes.

>>3052879
And Marathon copied from Doom in the first place soooo...?

>>3052867
Wolf TNO wasn't "fucking great". It was decent, buts about it. It still suffered from having mostly linear level design, and the story does get in the way at moments.

>>3052885
I keep seeing this LegenDoom mentioned, please fill me in

>>3052898

TL;DR Yholl likes how legendary monsters and legendary prefixed guns work in FO4 and he's replicating it with great affect in Doom.

>>3052879
Marathon is not really off topic as this *is* the RETRO FPS thread. Now that I think about it though, was there an FPS before Halo that had recharging shields?

>>3052865
what
this must be trolling

>>3052905
I thought it was similar to DRLA, no?

>>3052912

Not quite, DRLA has more focus on building your guns with modpacks and shit.

Legendoom is purely focused on luck of the draw when encountering and killing legendary monsters.

Plus I don't think is going full madman with the monsters like he's done with the monsters in the DRLA monster pack.

Fucking hungry

>>3052915
I believe it's being made to work with custom monsters (which is really flipping cool with all the tricks involved). It would be compatible with the DRLA monster pack, anon.

>>3052853
By your logic, you should not buy Doom 1.
It had no real modding to begin with. D44M at least gets Snapmap at launch, and we could see the tools later like we did with RAGE.

I'm more worried about the gameplay itself.

>>3052920

>legendary DRLA annihilation difficulty monsters

God damn it Yholl.

good ol female marine

>>3052925
>By your logic, you should not buy Doom 1.
>It had no real modding to begin with.
how can one person possibly be so wrong

>>3052929
That looks like complete shit.

>>3052929
Why is her mouth uncovered??

>>3052925
The tools have already been leaked from the multiplayer beta, I don't know how everyone doesn't know this.

>>3052939
No, the fact that there's reference to the DEV tools is what leaked from the CRACKED alpha. That doesn't mean they'll adapt them for general use for people in the retail release.

>>3052925
>Not capping the worst bit of all, the foreverlong glory kill of mancubus shooting himself

>>3052930
>hurr durr
totally proved him wrong, lmao

>>3052938
>Why is her mouth uncovered
Explain

has anybody here played miasma? if so, what did you think?

>>3052946
yes :)

>>3052925
>>3052943
Did it for me

>>3052965
Nice bitrate.

>>3052972
I blame webm for retards, I even used HQ mode. I'm lazy as fuck and it works

I had a good time playing through DUMP-1

>>3052963
PS you actually didn't and you're a toggaf

PS also a faget irl :*^)

>>3052948
That tiny bit of red is her mouth, right?

>>3052981
nah

>>3053016
cute af

>>3052965
One moment he has blood on his back, one second later he doesn't.

>>3053037
k

>>3053060
sup

>>3052374
I downloaded DirectQ because I've never actually played the original Quake before and wanted to try it out, but the link to the game itself is dead. Should I just look for a torrent? I don't 100% understand how older PC games work, am I just looking for an .iso?

>>3052575
Looks ok.
I was never a multiplayer guy though.

>>3052592
The pissfilter was never good.

So I'm playing KMQuake 2 and I have a slight problem: The music doesn't loop.

Anyone know how to fix this?

>>3052930
He's right. The only modding capabilities that doom had a launch was that the .wad files were editable. No editors or dev kits or what-have-you.

>>3052838

whats wrong with brutal doom?

what happened in this thread

>>3053147
The way it was shoved into everyone's faces and requested to make every other mod compatible with it by some teens.

>>3052843

>>3052653
Actually, I read on Reddit that the alpha stuff is a year or better old

>this thread

>>3052843

>Hey guys, what are you all up t-

>My God

>>3052561
Can't post it here (it's NSFW) but here's a link:
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2750629

>>3052561
Here's a link (It's NSFW):
http://simg4.gelbooru.com//images/a6/43/a6438bcf6b0e7d3907bcfd2988b1bf93.jpg

>>3053130
>was that the .wad files were editable.

And yet that was still a whole ton of power.

>>3052957
Pretty map
Play it on something lower than Ultra-Violent

>>3053191
Yeah, don't get me wrong. It was with the express intent to give the users the ability to hack the game. But it didn't release with any tools to do so.

I'm curious if they're going to have easily editable package files or what. People can't easily make their own level editors for modern engines these days.

>>3052575
>kill the big, bad demon to be the smaller more powerful demon

so kind of like cell?

>>3053240
>>kill the big, bad demon to be the smaller more powerful demon
that's not quite what's happening there

>>3052984
yes

>>3053307
Just to be sure, the grey circle on the face isn't an eye, right?

>>3053307
>>3052929
This sprite-set was always fucking awful, even back in the day.

There's way better female marine sprites out there.

>>3052838
b-b-but I like Brutal Doom senpai

>>3052838
I discovered DooM on GBA desu senpai

>>3053351
There are worse ports to get introduced with.
Like the SNES or Saturn ones.

>>3053339
How are they bad? I mean look at that ass.

>>3053327
>>3053339
are you trying to tell me that female marine sprite is too sexualized?

Almost finished with this map, it turned out pretty short so I intend on making a more action packed follow up with a slightly more intense version of the same midi.

>>3053367
>>3053370
they're fucking terrible sprites regardless of the ass

>>3053389
elaborate how instead of just saying "it's shit" and also if there are better female marine sprites then where are they

Tell me your secrets, teleporter. What wall must I lick to appease you?

>>3053395
i'm not going to go on a fucking essay
the jiggling gun butt in >>3052929 alone is embarrassing enough without even going into the incredibly poor animations and the slapshod edit job

>also if there are better female marine sprites then where are they
there's literally a million different takes on female marine
go look for them
have fun

>>3053407
>there's literally a million different takes on female marine
>go look for them
>have fun
yeah real helpful


if that is true then why do most mods i play mostly feature that "horrid" sprite then.

>>3053404
the half-room height crate on the left, directly above the "8" in "85%", but from the other side (so go round the back of the teleporter first)

>>3052528
>>3053186
>no hdoom expansion where you date guns
>plasma gun being bfg's younger, nicer sister
>shotgun feeling extremely jealous everytime you talk to SSG
>pistol is a loli that is always there for you
>chainsaw is a psycopath
>rocket is stronk and loves to blown shit up
>chaingun is the reliable workaholic that puts work above fun
>need to gain their trust and conquer them before being able to shoot them
>some of them have never been used once

>>3053395
the klaus nomi looking proportions for fucks sake. it's revolting, really.

>>3053410
skulltag had stick figure sprites for crash

some people just don't give a shit

>>3053410

This may come as a bit of a shock to you, but something's popularity doesn't have any correlation to its quality.

>>3053410
https://desustorage.org/vr/thread/3048857/#3052194

>>3053417

Playing a bit of Arcane Dimensions. Is it just me or are these maps pretty stingy with ammunition and guns? And being ambushed by monsters silently teleporting behind the player is pretty lame.

>>3052838
>>3052839
>>3052843
>>3052856
I fucking love you faggots

>>3053395

On behalf of this >>3053407 dipshit, I will.

The shoulders movement is unnatural in >>3052929, the helmet in the walking animations in >>3052929 looks like the one that MF Doom (a rapper) wears, then it switches to a Marathon-ish styled helmet in the firing animations. I don't have a problem with how the lightning in the firing animation goes, but the right leg is shrinking in the firing animation and that upsets me a lot, the same goes with the left arm.

In >>3053307 the left arm doesn't move at all. AT ALL. Bad. The original Doom marine sprite at least had movement. It also looks like she's literally masturbating while walking.

I do agree it's not the best Doomgirl sprite out there, the Crash sprite used in Skulltag is far better than that one, but it's still not good enough. There was a really good Crash one in the ZDoom forums, far different from the Skulltag one, but unfortunately it's been lost forever.

>>3053418
>Pistol is a loli that is always there for you
Come now, /dg/, most of us are better than this.

>>3053451
>no token happy go lucky little girl as one of the protags
its like you never watched japanese cartoons before

>>3052929
>>3053307

Absolutely godawful and retarded.

Here's one that doesn't look like shit.

>>3053458
Japanese cartoons that feature anything but strong men punching each other is a waste of my time.

>Hell Keep
>big huge building on the map
>actual level is fucking tiny

>>3053465
why does she have big trunk legs


and where's the ass

>>3053469
>Power Armour for a planet that is not compatible with earth life
>Showing off ass

>>3053451
she's not very strong but she never leaves your side and tries her best. don't bully the pistol.

>>3053465
>doomgirl isn't full of muscles like her male counterpart

>>3053472
see, look. Ass.

>>3053479
An artist friend of mine drew a picture of Doomgirl that's actually fucking badass.
Too bad she's a huge baby and won't post any of her art here.
YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE

>>3053465

not him but that on still looks awful. The breast area in the frontal sprites is a complete, utter joke. I believe that you don't even need to accentuate the breast area to point out it's a female marine, just copy Crash's general design and you're good to go.

again, the arms. THE ARMS. my main grip is that the shading in the lateral sprites is decent, but the arms in the frontal sprites is still lacking

The way this female marine falls to death is good to me, but again, the breast area, especially in the first frame, completely ruins the whole animation

they may have been good for its time, but this is 2016

>>3053484
so is like ass the only thing you care about in a design

>>3053465
Fuck, now i want to see a doomgirl version of pic related

>>3053491
>but this is 2016

>>3052575
>the marine forcing the mancubus to kill itself

METAL AS FUCK
E
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A
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F
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>>3053504
>>the marine forcing the mancubus to shit on itself

fax'd

>>3053418
>>need to gain their trust and conquer them before being able to shoot them
>building relationship further to gift them upgrades
I want this way too much.

>>3053467
Even Japanese cartoons with strong men punching each other have little girls, anon.

>Level starts with this view
>around the corner to the right are chaingunners
>You can see the 1/many chaingunners around the corner in front of me

Always good

>>3053515
I know, an orangutan tried to rape one in the shower. JoJo is bizarre.

>>3053529
oh wow carlos i didnt know you liked doom

>>3053548
I'd photoshop a Josuke hat on Carlos but I'm a lazy shitter.

>>3053370
No, I'm saying they look retarded, the anatomy looks janky, the animation is dogshit (parts inexplicably change shape and size between frames), the design is dumb.

Why does it feature an open mouth on the helmet? Why is her animation so unnaturally stiff? Why are her asscheeks perfectly spherical?

It's bad design, bad sprite work, bad anatomy, and bad animation.

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/03/39-pbe-update.html
>WarwickRework.bin
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH

>>3053528
>jump behind revenant, try to make him melee you
>try to dodge caco
>make cybie hit revenant
>lure caco into getting shot too
>kill chaingunners

>>3053418
Sounds fun honestly.
Plasmaraifu should be flat as a board and insecure about it.

>>3053451
Welcome to 4chan.

>>3053465
That looks slightly better, in that she's not wearing the dumbass open mouth helmet, but man, it has it's own issues.

>>3053418
>"You can doo this onii-chan, i believe in you"
>"C'mon boss, lets set this freak show on fire!"

>>3053554
>Why are her asscheeks perfectly spherical?
You telling me you don't like big ass cheeks?


and maybe she has open to show off her newly applied lipstick

>>3053575
>"pistol: remember to strafe a lot big bro, don't let those meanies get you"
>"BFG: this scenario clearly requires firepower, i will lend you my strength for the sake of all of us"
>"rocket launcher: What? Don't listen to this old hag boss, we need lots of splash damage and explosions"
>"chaingun: Don't be a fool, Rocket, we need a safe approach to make sure we are safe, and the last thing we need right now is exploding ourselves"
>"plasma gun:huh...guys? we aren't going to get anywhere like this, we should just let him decide by himself"
>"chainsaw: I wonder how big their guts are, let's find out"
>"SGG: Silence, all of you, you all have your weak and strong points, but we all know who he is going to choose at the end"
>"shotgun: she is right, stand aside all of you, i got this"
>Doomguy just stands there in silence

I'm playing through Quake 2 for the first time and I gotta say, I'm kind of disappointed.

I wasn't really impressed with Quake 1 mind you, but I heard Quake 2 was more action oriented with a rocking soundtrack and that sounded like it's right up my alley.

However the soundtrack is kind ... I don't know, generic? I mean it's okay for the game, but not something I would listen to outside of the game. It actually reminds me of Painkiller's soundtrack.

The weapons are kind of a mixed bag. I like that the SSG actually feels powerful and not that weak Quake 1 shit and the minigun is fun to use (even if it does chew through ammo ridiculously fast), but the lack of muzzle flashes to any of the weapons makes them feel weird. I'm still puzzled as to why none of the weapons have a muzzle flash considering Quake 1 had 'em.

Also if they're gonna do the whole "go from area to area" shit from Hexen, they could at least include a map or something. It's not as bad as Hexen since it actually tells you what to do, but everything kind of blends together in Quake 2 and I couldn't tell you which area is which.

I wonder if I should even bother with Quake 4 since the first two games didn't manage to wow me, and I've heard Q4 is the weakest of the series.

>>3052575
> it´s like Halo, but in hell
jesus christ

>>3053529
I was referring more to Fist of the North Star's loli sidekick.

>>3053608
Can you even call that hell to be honest, with the tech we have today you can easily make something beyond human understanding

>>3053610
This one?

>>3053619
Rin's only an adult in HnK2.

In the HnK that matters, she's a loli.

>>3053621
>HnK2

Oh christ, you never actually read the source material did you.

>>3053614
Hell is definitely a part of Doom they should have tried to stick to so much.

>>3053629
>Anime
>Lolis
>Reading

Please go.

>>3053629
Anon. Rin isn't an adult in HnK at all. From Zeed to Raoh, she's a little girl.

She only is an adult/teenager/whatever the fuck Hara says she was in HnK2 - the forced additional story about Ken's brother where only two characters are worth a damn aside from Ken and one of them is a horse.

Oh boy, my wife's son sure does love DooM.

>>3053650
Funny, my wife's son doesn't like Doom and instead just plays basketball.

Bring your cuck memes elsewhere

>>3053650
Hi /tv/

>>3052374
Random question: is it possible to replace the monster sprites with voxel models, just like items?

>>3053440
is that from a map you are making?
it strangely reminds me of the secret level in swtw,
if swtw were green instead of blue

>>3053641
Guys, the "original" HnK you're going on about is only at most, 40% of the total story. There's no HnK2, there's only HnK, with 4 major story arcs, in which two of them she plays a critical role, and both times it's as an adult.

But you didn't actually read it, so she's forever a loli to you despite the fact that she's an adult in 3 of the 4 arcs.

Also I never implied she was an adult in the first arc.

>>3053660
yes

>>3053664
The fuck are you talking about?

The major story arcs are Shin, Rei to Jagi, Thouzer, Juda, Raoh.

Anything after that in the Land of Ashura is considered "HnK2," a sequel that's a fucking timeskip so that they could keep pushing out anime. Your'e somehow the only person who does not know this.

>>3053665
Any examples/ tutorials/ documentation?

what an mess

>>3053680
I remember that part.
Holy shit fuck that part

>>3053608
fuck off

>>3053680
Oh I remember that shit. That was fun. I was playing with MSX tho, not AtM.

>>3053680

what dat

>>3053698
the map is btsx_e1, whatever the last but one map number is, 24 or 25, can't remember.

>>3053669
not really

http://www.mediafire.com/download/dbw3ab3fhowsjqn/vombieman.pk3

this changes every rotation of the zombieman to a diferent sample voxel
load it up, see what happens

Is everyone really sold on the hell aesthetic? I always kind of assumed, cause with the space theme and everything. That these were just highly advanced aliens from another dimension/planet or whatever. And all the hell/demon stuff was just doomguy going through this awful brutality and then getting home and saying like metaphorically like, wow I sure went through hell. Like how Soldiers from Veitnam called it hell with the napalm and the shit stakes.

>>3053714
>Is everyone really sold on the hell aesthetic?

everyone in the 90s did, a lot of people still do

aliens won't just simply start stealng inverted crosses because of A E S T H E T H I C S

>>3053680
The only part of BTSX I didn't like.

does this still look bad

>>3053714
>Is everyone really sold on the hell aesthetic?
>pentagrams
>inverted crosses
>fire and brimstone
>horned goat-men with cloven hooves
>cathedrals
>souls

Senpai, you would have to stretch REALLY fucking far to even begin to say "nah this can't be hell".

>>3053734

Yes.

>>3053714
I mean, if you're asking if we're sold on the enemies being demons and hell being hell, then yeah.

>>3053714
Yeah, all the pentagrams, literal magic, demonic imagery and literal descent into hell was all metaphors and stuff.

>>3053734
yes

>>3053734
The lips and head still look like shit. Tits are too big imo too.

>>3053734
Yes. Abysmal.

>>3053747
you hate BOOBS and lips?


i wish some anon can improve it

>>3053743
>>3053741
Well I thought all the magic was advanced technology and all the religious symbolism was either a coincidence or like maybe these aliens visited earth before and we thought they were demons then too so we based our conception of hell on them. They really give that impression giving the demons advanced technology like cyborgs and plasma guns.

>>3053760
I said this in the other thread. She's way too sexualized.

>>3053714

haha idiot. I bet you read and liked that early book series of Doom too.

>>3053714
I like the mix of hell imagery with fucked up technology, though any map I shit out in Oblige tends to be using TNT instead.

>>3053714
Why wouldn't it be?
It's base concept was thought of by id as a cross between two of their favorite movies, Aliens, and Evil Dead 2

The old novels make a clear departure from the games (which it was criticized for) by stating that the monsters aren't from hell, rather they're alien creatures genetically engineered and equipped to appear as demons from hell, as part of psychological warfare.

>>3053760

I love tits as much as the next anon.
But I hate shitty art.

A good set of tits on a fine lady is something to behold, but this is not it and drawing a tiny set of tits on a tiny sprite is an endeavor inherently doomed to futility.

>>3053491
>just copy Crash's general design and you're good to go.
Can we make her THICKER?

>>3053435
Some of the maps are really stingy, yeah, and the teleporting monsters can be annoying, but that's just a consequence of different maps being made by different people.

Some of them give you lods of eammo, and spawn monsters in front of you/already have them spawned in so you can shoot them first, no behind-the-black bullshit.

>>3053773

>>3053760
No, BOOBS are okay, I just don't like digital sex mannequins. Looks like an armored blow up doll.

>>3053760
the doom player's helmet completely covers his face. therefore, the lips on your sprite make no sense. it is as if your character has painted lipstick on her breathing grille.

the gag boobs and waggly hips are unlikely on a marine, as well.

>>3053773
NO

>>3053768
what's wrong with the book series

>>3053764

You're fucking weird, bruh.

>>3053767

I picture a doom gal would be shorter than Doomguy, flat chested, slightly wider hipped and some powerful legs because of that speed.

I'd want her to have a slightly different armor design too, and her own weaponry. Doomguy is about hitting like a truck, doom gal would probably have more nuance.

>>3053768
I didn't read those books; I'm iliterate. Who's the idiot now?

>>3053764
iirc, that's the explanation we got from the novels

>>3052575
Can't wait for this to be dead in 2 weeks from release along with a forgotten singleplay campaign

>>3053791
oh wait somebody else said that already. sorry.

>>3053764
That's how the novels go.

When we were first visited by the aliens, we were in the dark ages.
Turns out that humans develop society and technology much faster than most other races in the galaxy, and the aliens were genuinely still expecting us to be medieval, hence the focus on demonic imagery as part of psychological warfare.

The idea is that the human race is WAY more prepared and better equipped than they could have ever imagined, despite them being more technologically advanced than them in many ways, turning the invasion into a difficult shitstorm for this alien force.

>>3053773
No, that's fucking disgusting, stop immediately.

>>3053779
Those aren't his sprites, they're incredibly fucking old. I think they were used in Immoral Conduct way back in the day.

>>3053779
>the gag boobs and waggly hips are unlikely on a marine, as well.
explain

voluptuous character wouldn't work?

>>3053764
I see where you're coming from but I'm really glad that's not the case. The fact they're actual demons from Hell is one of the things I love about Doom. They aren't aliens from space or other humans in some other nation's army. There's no grey area, there's no bargaining with them, they're not misunderstood. They come from a place where it's pain and wickedness 24/7 and inflicting those things are their sole purpose for existing. Wherever they are they want to cause as much pain as possible and you're the only one standing against them.

>>3053760
They're not GOOD boobs, they're not GOOD lips, it's not a GOOD ass, it looks like a shitty cartoon.

This makes me think of people who jerk off to Simpsons and Family Guy characters drawn naked. It's abstract and ugly, not the least bit attractive.

>>3053780
>>3053776
Aw. Okay.

>>3053801
That's not voluptuous, that's a fucking blow-up doll.

>>3053808
no anon go ahead it's good.


they're low test anyway

>>3053789

You, for being illiterate.

>>3053801
jessica rabbit in a space marine suit running around at 24mph with a rocket launcher and 100 rounds of heavy explosives stretches ones sense of disbelief rather a lot

>>3053818
Approving of people becoming fat and unhealthy is the opposite of high testosterone

>>3053768
The books aren't bad.
Have you read them?

>haha idiot
Also don't be an asshole.

>>3053781
Honestly? Only two things:
1; inconsistency
2; it's too long and drawn out

It's been said before and it'll be said again, it's like the authors ran out of Doom by the end of the second book, and were writing a completely different story since they already had a contract for two more books.

It would probably have been better if it was down to three books and the third book being completely rewritten.

>>3053787
>tomboy doomgirl
All my yes.

>>3053820
How do you not get his joke?

>>3053802
Doom and Quake are both great at that. Doomguy literally goes to Hell to fight the brimstone forces themselves, and Ranger takes on eldritch abominations that by all means should make someone'd mind snap in two by simply existing with nothing but nails and an axe.

Fuck, Quake 5 when? I'm tired of all this generic Strogg shite.

I'm surprised Quake doesn't really fit into the overarching id continuity someplace.

>>3053829
>The books aren't bad.
>Have you read them?

I have. They are awful. Unless you're a mormon, I guess.

>>3053829
>How do you not get his joke?

Yeah, I'll admit I completely fell for that. I guess I'm the idiot now!

>>3053826
but why do people act like it is though?

>>3053818
>>>/fit/

>>3053837
Because it's a retarded meme.

I'm horny

>>3053837
Because chubbychasers ahve no sense of anatomy (because they only ogle amorphous blob-people) and mix up women who simply have wide pelvises with fat people.

>>3053727
Nothing wrong with a bit of slaughter as a final boss fight desu

>>3053831
>overarching id continuity
I know Billy Blaze is BJ Blazkowicz's grandson (or great-grandson?), but where does Doom fit in?

>>3053846
I get the feeling that's part of it. They have some sort of interpretation going on in their brain that make them see fat as "curves" in the same way anorexics see skin as fat.

>>3053835
What does this even mean?
I'll be the first to admit that they aren't amazing, but for being based on a basic sci-fi shooter with razor-thin plot, they're better than they have the right to be, better than the movie and the comic, absolutely.

What's the mormon angle about anyway? They're not really portrayed as "the heroes" or glorified, they're there, and they're doing mormon things, part of the character interaction is two of the main characters bickering and getting to know each other, one being a mormon, the other being non-religious and being prejudiced against mormons, which isn't painted in a particular way, being based on her own experiences and perceptions about the mormon religion, and she isn't even that wrong about them.

It doesn't paint mormons as especially good, or especially bad, they're just there, a more conservative mormon might even take offense at it for some parts.

>>3053843
hhnnnngGGHGHGHGHGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

>>3053853
>>3053846
Makes sense.

>>3053849
For a final boss fight, I was fine with it, because it didn't cram it in everywhere else like is sadly done so often in place of real enemy placement in many megawads.

I had to redo it many times, usually because the monsters teleported in faster than I could deal with them, meaning I ran out of space to maneuver.

>>3053850
I think the Doom and Wolfenstein mobile phone RPGs tied them in sort of, which some people insist is canon, but in my opinion that feels like forced plot revisionism where it wasn't necessary. I like it better with Wolfenstein and Doom being separate stories.

>>3053874
Yeah it was in the RPGs someplace, a version of Doomguy with the Blazkowicz last name (not the actual Doom 1 Doomguy).

On the topic of silly worldbuilding: Why is Ranger so much tankier than Doomguy when his armor is visibly much less modern?

>>3053773

HAHAHAHAHAHA DUMP TIME

TIME TO SHIT OUT A TERRIBLE MAP IN THREE HOURS

INTENSITY

My son

>>3053858
HEEEAAAHAHRHGGNNNGNGGNGGNGGN FFFF FFU FUUUFUFUFU AAA HH HAHH AHH

I need LegenDoom in my life. It looks pretty hot

>>3053843
>>3053858
>>3053910

>>3053604
If Q1 didn't "manage to wow you" perhaps retro fps games just aren't for you in general. It's the best of the bunch.

Quake 4 looks and plays alright, but it lacked any of the level design conventions which makes quake feel like quake. But since you don't seem to be a fan of those anyway, Q4 might just be the one you'd enjoy the most.

And don't forget RTCW which is pretty much a quake game in disguise.

we need an edit of >>3053914 using the characters in >>3053902

>>3053775
Which of the maps are your favorites anon? I didn't like "crucial error" but "place of many deaths" was nice. Currently on the foggy swamp map, and it's a mixed bag gameplay-wise but looks absolutely stunning.

How's day 1 of DUMP going for you, /vr/?

>>3053945

>>3053727
Wait, so you liked BTSX E2M31?

Pretty shit

>>3053945
What's this DUMP I keep hearing about?

>>3052598
>Doom
>colorful levels
what the fuck are you talking about

>>3053902
>"Now NEITHER of us will be virgins!!!"

>>3052598
>Why can't we just have neat, colorful levels, like, I dunno, Doom had?

Huh? Most levels in doom were generally brown or grey.

>>3053967
Meant to reply to >>3053945

>>3053975
Doom used more colors typically than brown and grey. It also used red, blue, and green constantly.

>>3053975
This is what I've been trying to tell people for literally a year now.

>Get to Nirvana in Doom II
>mfw https://u.pomf.is/tiexfr.mp3 playing as the background music the whole time

>>3053990
>It also used red, blue, and green constantly.
>constantly

No. they were used at times, but Browns and Greys were still very dominant.

http://strawpoll.me/7033213/

>>3053992
This is great. What metal song did it take inspiration from?

>>3053958
it's fun with dakka

>>3053945
LAYOUT LAYOUT LAYOUT LAYOUT LAYOUT LAYOUT LAYOUT LAYOUT LAYOUT LAYOUT LAYOUT LAYOUT LAYOUT LAYOUT LAYOUT

INTENSIIIIIITTYYYYY

Okay. So my rectangle tool now arbitrarily has the corners rounded off.

Please tell me someone knows what the fuck is going on

>>3053958
It didn't feel as bad I guess.

>>3053991
Nice cherrypicking m8

>>3054017
I kind of want to pick both.

>>3054038
I see
>Brown
>Gray
>Green
>Red
>Blue

The new game showed literally everything there except for Blue during just the E3 Hell demo alone.
That's not to mention the countless other areas that will be in the game, such as the Lazarus facility, which is already confirmed to use a lot of shades of Blue, and all the enemies, who's colors have been significantly upped.

>>3054038
couple of those pics in that collage are kinda working against your point there m8

>>3054047
Isn't his point that Doom had a diverse palette of colors at many times?

>>3054042
>such as the Lazarus facility, which is already confirmed to use a lot of shades of Blue
not to fucking mention frozen hell

>ZDaemon is fugged and won't start for whatever reason
>Zandronum is literally nothing but Complex, MM8B and other assorted clusterfuck mods
Awaken me from this fresh hell

>>3054060

can't you just create a server yourself? both zdaemon and zandro were made with zdoom as base, anyway

plus, zandronum is open source

ITT: "I want a Doom 4, but I will also hate Doom 4 if it looks like it was made in 2016 and like Halo. Also muh colourscheme"

>>3054079

Don't forget skeletons and DUMP mapping

>>3054079
>but I will also hate Doom 4 if it looks [...] like Halo.

I see nothing wrong with this.

>>3054019
I have no idea. It's from a music mod that I have no recollection of downloading, dated for 2011 according to Windows. I'll upload the wads if you want

>>3054089
Because seeing as Doom started the whole space marine aesthetic back in 1993, it is only logical that it would progress to what it looks like now.

HEH

>>3054079
I don't want a Doom 4. I'm fucking tired of all this shameless "hey look it's <old beloved IP>! we, a bunch of people who had nothing to do with the original work, have taken it upon ourselves to make a new one! pre-order now!" bullshit. Make new IPs instead of dragging out old ones that already earned their rest ten times over.

>>3054096

lel

>>3054102
Then don't buy Doom 4 faggot and keep playing Doom 1, doesn't stop the fact that Doom 4 is coming out.

>>3054094

This is a completely nonsensical view to take.
It doesn't need to "progress". It should be what it is.
Metroid started the whole "surprise, badass lady" trend in video games, it doesn't need to "progress" to the modern take of it.
Ryu started the whole roaming karate martial artist trend, he doesn't need to suddenly pick up mixed martial arts and go for a more clinch-focused approach.

>>3052929
>"How are people going to know it's a female?"
>"Put lipstick on her, duh"

>>3054121
Seriously. This.

>>3054119
Doomguy is still a space marine on a UAC base on Mars/Deimos/Phobos, who then goes to Hell while fighting demons.

It's still the same shit, so what is the fucking problem man? How is it any different?
If you mention anything about the gameplay changing then you forfeit the point about Metroid progressing because Metroid now is very different from Metroid then.

>>3053764
No, I actually figure that the demons grabbed advanced technology from US.

Consider the first DOOM game.

The only enemies that use technology are A) Zombies, B) Cybie, and C) The spider mastermind.

The zombies are pretty simple. They're human bodies using human technology clumsily. They have no accuracy, and only built-in instincts. They're just possessed humans and nothing more.

Consider that you only meet Cybie after the first episode, in hell itself. An episode after demons have stomped all the fuck over the base- no doubt claiming their technology- they immediately re-arm and repair thir greatest warrior, wounded from a war hundreds of years ago. Next, you only find and fight the spider mastermind- a great brain with no capability for combat- and of course, if there's an implacable warrior heading toward you, you'll want to make sure you're equipped for the fight- so the mastermind got the biggest, heaviest weapon they had and threw some extra legs on so they could also get around.

Now consider that the second doom takes place weeks or months later, and consider the other cybernetic demons...

>There's more, I just can't have a post go so long.

>>3054136
Metroid's had at least 20 different games.

Doom's had about five at most.

>>3054139

The arachnotrons are the thinking demons, the ones with no mobility, but a lot of dexterity and brainpower. They can't walk unaided- but when they discovered human technology, the first thing they did was give themselves some basic defenses and the ability to get around without imp palanquins.

Next, mancubi. They're big guys. Big, heavy, and strong... But they're slow. They're so slow and useless for anything involving actual fighting. So why attach blasters to them? Obviously: Because they're the mining demons. Demon wars of old involved magic and might- but for might, you need weapons, and for weapons you need metal. For metal, you need mancubi. They delve down into the earth and use clubhands- or whatever- in order to gather their minerals. Pretty simple, right?
When the technological revolution hit, the arachnotrons began outfitting everything that might use it. Giving the mancubi plasma cannons are a good idea because they can mine faster and easier. The extra bonus is that when Doomguy comes by, the mancubi don't need to use their slumbering, useless speed in order to attack- they can instead use their plasma cannons as ad-hoc combat weapons.

Finally, the revenants. Look at how they look, how they fight, even the noises they make. It's obvious: They're the 'cranky old dude' caste. They're just dead demons who really don't give a shit about dying anymore. They were invoked back into life by the others because of Doomguy's incursion into hell- They're so emaciated and patched together and skeletal that 'Fuck it, give me the biggest booms you can' is obviously their best option, because even if they die again from collateral, they can actually get back to sleep and might take care of doomguy while they're at it.

>>3054094
Well, Doom started the video game Space Marine. I see the Space Marine aesthetic as starting from Warhammer's iconic Space Marine.

Looking forward to the game nonetheless.

>>3052943
>reference to dev tools and not mod tools

Not to argue but proof?

>>3053710
thx, family

>>3054140
Which somehow means Doom can't try slightly new things? There's barely anything THAT different in the game to begin with besides speed, the Gauss Rifle, glory kills and upgrades.

DUMP mapping huh? This seems shit to me.

>>3052838
me staring at the deleted thread