/vr/ - Retro Games

>>3033359
It was mostly just for the gore and the graphics.

>>3033359
It's not but the inputs are one of the few things it got right. Doing a fireball shouldn't be any more complicated than down, forward, punch There's no need to drag diagonals into it, let alone 360s and pretzels.

all those MK games are pretty much the same normals other than the specials.

>>3033359
>Play sf2
wow this is a good game! Check it out I can make this chick like, kick a whole bunch.
>Play mk
Holy shit did you just see that? I just harpooned the blue ninja playing as the yellow ninja spraying his blood all over! Whoa, now he fucking froze me and uppercutted me like ten feet in the air! Shit, match over. Wait..... now the blue ninja who just beat me pulled my neck from my body with my spine still attached!! Dude pull up a chair and play this shit with me! What? You need a coaster for you drink? Ummmm.. can't find one... Where did they go... Oh well, here just use this sf2 cart.

>>3033359
Mortal combat was garbage, no one ever considered it a good game.

>>3034072
Probably if you was born in the las15 years.
>don't lie teenager.

>>3033359
It's not.
It's a gimmick game that used laughably excessive violence to appeal to dark, edgy teen faggots who didn't know any better.
MK was and still is a running gag of a fighting game.
MK also was more an NA and UK thing, while SF2 was a global phenomenon.

>>3034115
This.
MK was the gory, edgy game to play for the bood, fatalities and FEENEESH HEEM, everything else was for actually playing a good game with bros.

>>3034115
>It's a gimmick game that used laughably excessive violence to appeal to dark, edgy teen faggots who didn't know any better.

No one has ever said that mk was a better fighting game than sf2. It was just more fun(especially w/friends) which is why I think hardcore street fighter fans(virgin neets) hate mk. They can't fathom that an inferior fighter was so popular and in the end more fun to play. Not sure why more people can't be fans of both(like me) instead of touching themselves to Chun li fan fiction and posting bullshit on a japanimatoon picture website.

>MK also was more an NA and UK thing, while SF2 was a global phenomenon.

You mean it was popular in countries that mattered and not places where shitting on the street is considered ok?

>>3034173
Why don't you go back to >>>/pol/ buddy?

Nice projection by the way.

>>3034191
That guy is one of my favorite posters around here. He's totally convinced he has fighting game players totally pinned down. But because he doesn't know what he's talking about at al we get hilarous long rants like that one.

>>3034191
>can't counter points
>tell person to go away

Nice. Going to call me reddit next? Honestly I'm just tired of this meme that mk is shit. Either anons are too young to remember mk in its prime parroting what just as young e-celebs spout or they are hardcore SF fags that hate other people having fun playing an "inferior" game.

Yes mk is over the top violence. And? Would Robocop be as good of a film if all blood was edited out and all gun violence was replaced with karate chops? Both games are great for different reasons. Not sure why this is so hard.

>>3034241
Can't say I know the fellow whom you referring too but sure why not I'll be your boogie man.

>>3034267
Sorry, I don't usually waste my time on passive aggressive americans, but for the record, I'm 28 and I know very well about MK because I had it for my megadrive back in the days and I played it with my friends and guess what? We played it for laughing at the extreme gore and because it was the cool thing for kids at the time.

If you're so butthurt about people stating the obvious that you have to resort to calling them out on fapping or being virgin neets, I'm afraid you're just projecting, because even back in the days no one fucking cared about MK questionable popularity, we were all busy playng SF, KoF, VF, VS and even Tekken to bother with that trash.

>>3034267
He may not be you, you may have just said some similar stuff so I lumped you together. There is one guy who speaks like you just did about fighters a lot though.

Anyways, the claim is that Street Fighter fans hate MK because it was more popular. But being big into fighters and in the 90's much more into MK than Street Fighter I will say that's not my experience at all.

SF fans don't care that MK is popular and they don't care about the people playing it. They certainly don't want those people to drop MK and start playing SF. They just think MK is a shit game and like to make fun of it's fans.

Now like I say, I did and do like Mortal Kombat. I've always enjoyed it more than Street Fighter. It's fun as hell, fatalities are great and almost anyone can learn to play it. Hell, there was a time in the 90's when my mom could whoop some serious ass with Mileena. MK is a fighter that's more like a party game which is indeed a big part of what made it so great.

But that said, if you're looking for a fighter to really sink your teeth into and master, Mortal Kombat just doesn't really stack up to the big Japanese franchises of Street Fighter and King of Fighers/Fatal Fury. So when someone started playing fighters "seriously" they usually gravitated to one of those more technical games.

Things are a bit different now though that the fighting scene is so big. MK9 was a solid and my current favorite fighter ever is made by NRS.

dude toilet humor and excessive violence lmao

My biggest problem with MK is the horrible ai. They're cheating bastards even on easy mode.

>>3034335
That's all fighting game AI. Trust me, if it didn't cheat it would be even more boring.

>>3034346
MK special, they break out of throws and have a million frames of priority.

>>3034350
At least MK only has a couple of charge moves. You don't get Guile throwing sonic booms every second. But meh... it's all shitty when you're stuck playing AI.

>>3034296
I absolutely agree with everything you just said. Just trying to dismiss the "mk total shit" meme that's been flying around /vr as of late because it was good for what it was. Should mention that I'm only really defending mk1 - mk2 as dumb but fun games and not the later ones

>>3034286
Hey i'm 28 too :^)

>>3034364
There will always be people who shit on MK, especially around here. You just gotta roll with it. There are people who take fighters (or games in general) very seriously and to them the appeal of silly fun like MK just doesn't make sense.

I'm with you on it mostly being 1 and 2 though. 3 was one of my first big video game disappointments. Somewhere between the run button and the auto combos it just felt very different and not as much fun. It wasn't terrible and did give us some cool characters, but I didn't get nearly as into it as the other ones. Though also it was around that time I started to move to King of Fighters.

I did really like MK9 though and Injustice rocks my world. MKX looks good too but I haven't bothered with it yet.

>>3034372
Well said, I dislike the dial-a-combos too.

MK1-2-3-ultimate-trilogy were the best party games as a child. Especially in UMK3 where you could do tournaments.

It didn't matter if the game was broken because we played it as kids and no one knew how to play the game other than one or two combos or special attacks (all which were easy to block, except the ones you couldn't see coming like Ermacs teleport slam). And when it came down to practice, everyone tried practicing the finishers anyway, not ingame combos. Not that it was possible to practice anyway since against the AI you could only practice exploits that specifically worked only against them (some were even console specific - Sub-Zeros freeze move in MK3 did not get hit by Shao Kahns fireball for example, but only on the Megadrive version, it's how I managed to beat him).

We had huge pages of code tables for each super move and fatality, even wrote our own ones. It was so much fun to discover and see every secret move, finisher, or hidden fighter in the game.

No one gave a shit about SF2 back then. It was cartoony fighter #2562. Only 1-2 people could play it, and they completely dominated everyone who was new to the game, so it was just not fun to play. MK gave everyone a more equal chance.

>>3034454
I kind of miss that I never got to play MK as a kid, I was an edgy teen by the time it came around. I can imagine how even more awesome it would have been as a younger kid with my friends.

>>3033359
MK isn't made for tournyfags, it's for fans of gratuitous violence and mindless fun.

>>3034493
>tournyfags

Why does /vr/ love this word so much?

>>3034513
It's succinct and very specific in identifying the type of people it applies to.

>>3033359
>MK3

There's your problem.

>>3034535
It just comes off as so passive aggressive I always wonder why people around here are upset that tournament players exist. It's kind of funny, but a little sad at the same time.

>>3034115
>excessive violence

Except the fatalities were incredibly tame and silly. They were basically Looney Tunes tier in nature. Only hardcore puritans found them offensive.

>>3034546
Do you seriously believe what you're writing? It's cartoonish sure, especially to the eyes of someone in 2016. But if you think "realistic" looking sprites ripping someone's head off with their spine attached, still beating hearts being ripped out of chests and massive fountains of blood are "looney tunes tier" then I don't think you've ever even seen looney tunes.

And if you think it was only hardcore puritans who got offended you were also probably not old enough to remember the early 90's very well.

>>3034564
A couple were graphic, but most of it was just silly. Like Mileena sucking someone up like a vacuum and spitting out piles of bones. Or a giant Jax boot stomping them from out of nowhere. Even in MK1 SZ's spine rip or Kano's heart rip were not heavily detailed so it's silly getting worked up over some red pixels. Looney Tunes may not have shown blood, but it was packed with violence.

>>3034575
>Looney Tunes may not have shown blood, but it was packed with violence.

And they were mostly very cartoony animals. Trust me, the hysteria caused by MK in it's day was all too real. I remember an "action group" formed by mothers in my highschool concerned about kids playing Mortal Kombat too much,

>>3034583
And mothers got worked up over Pokemon too. People flip out over anything.

>>3034592
So you're agreeing with me now? Of course it was more than hardcore puritans. This was the early 90's remember.

>>3034065

Except no one would ever know how to do the fatalities on their first try.

>>3034346
No it's not all fighting game AI. I can beat some SFs and SNK games on normal with a little work. It's been 20 years and still can't get halfway up the MK3 ladder on one life. Midway AI is absolutely broken.

>>3034543
Whether or not it's being used passive-aggressively is all in context. There's a difference between "tourneyfags ruin fun" and "tourneyfags establish skill ceilings."

>>3034564
MK1 had some very brutal killings, but the tech was so primitive that most of them weren't that realistic.

MK2 had some brutal ones and some very cartoony ones.

MK3 pretty much only had cartoony ones and you had everyone exploding into 5 full bodies worth of body parts. I had my parents watching the Supreme Demonstration in UMK3 with me, and while I kept watching it for how cool most moves were, they laughed at how ridiculously stupid most of them were like the Jax T1000 arms one, or Sheeva pummeling a dude into the ground).

>>3034583
I know the hysteria behind MK was real but consider that people start hysteria over offhand remarks on twitter, or a nipple slip in a live show on MTV. When that kid shot up his school and they found out that he used to play Doom, the press started calling the game a training program for amateur pipe bombers (despite Doom featuring no pipe bombs).

People start hysteria over getting burned by their own hot coffee at McDonalds, and politicians jump on that because they are attention grabbing cunts.

>>3034613
I think it's just different, once you're used to it it's not actually hard at all. In high school I would play through MK2 and then MK3 almost every day on lunch break. Motaro and Kintaro could be bitches depending on the character but overall it was a cakewalk because I'd played the games so much.

I can't really compare with KoF though, by the time I got into that I didn't really play single player anymore. '99 is the only KoF I've ever beaten in 1P mode and that was just to unlock shit. Other than that I never even touch the mode.

>>3034617
To be fair, the woman who got burned by the coffee had to get multiple skin grafts because the coffee really was too hot for consumption.

>>3034617
Which is all why I said it was more than just hardcore puritans who got their panties in a twist. It was a lot of seemingly normal people. But you're right that it's no better and people are just as kneejerk now as ever. Just over different things.

>>3034636
Anyone who gets riled up over Pokemon is not normal.

>>3034598
Guy in the skit is playing the AI before asking his friend to come over join him. Should of set the scene better I guess.

>>3034546

Again showing how MK3 ruined the franchise.

Thanks a lot Boon.

>We went all silly cause we didn't know how to top MKII

The tourneyfag spillage from /v/ is getting really annoying anymore. I blame it on Street Fighter being relevant again. Give it a few months, then we can talk about fighting games without mememasters ruining everything.

>>3034676
MK3 really isn't more silly than the other two. It's the shitty combo system that's the big reason people don't like it.

>>3034683
I'm one of the people who talks about fighting games the most on here and I've never been to a tourney. Similarly I can't even remember an actual tournament player posting here. Sorry your panties are all in a twist, over people enjoying fighters?

>>3034683
>I blame it on Street Fighter being relevant again.

So since 2008? lol

>>3034694
>MK3 really isn't more silly than the other two.

I would somewhat agree. MK1 was the most serious with some nut shots thrown in while MK2 rode the line of goofy yet violent fighter extremely well. MK3 just couldn't find it's stride. It was a gloomy apocalyptic setting with cyborgs and even nuttier finishers(like blowing up the planet nutty). Idk they just couldn't catch lighting in bottle again like the first two.

>It's the shitty combo system that's the big reason people don't like it.

That and everything from the stages, music, characters, and bosses(motaro is a teleporting cunt) were all done better in the previous two games. It just didn't feel like Mortal Kombat anymore.

>>3034694
>over people enjoying fighters?
I don't think e-sports are meant to be "enjoyed".

>>3034683
>tourneyfag
You must be 18 or older to post here.

>>3034727
My problems with MK3 were all about the mechanics making it feel different from the other two. Stylistically I think they fit together pretty well. But I get where you're coming from.


>>3034746
Is that really what you think? lol No one spends hundreds or thousands of hours on fighting games if they don't enjoy playing them.

Weebs hate MK because it is not Japanese and is actually difficult.

>>3036431
Difficult how?

>>3034746
The difference in enjoying competitive games is like the difference between getting a beej and training for a marathon and placing really well.

Both are great feelings.

>>3036487
I'm pretty sure that guy just doesn't understand how competition of any sort can be enjoyable.

>>3036431
It's funny because as a kid I loved MK because of the blood and fatalities, like most kids. Abandoned it during my pre-teen/teen years for Street Fighter/Japanese 2d fighters because I was a weeb and 'ZOMG FIREBALLS AND ANIME!' Now I find in my late 20's MK more fun and enjoyable over my old staple of Eastern fighters.

Not shitting on them, just don't find them engaging in the slightest anymore. Mortal Kombat I can just fire up in mame, and just enjoy the goofy violence and homages to amazing B-movies.

Plus the girls are hot.

Well thanks for reading my blog. Take 'er easy.

>>3036492
Competing in a videogame? Who cares, you might as well be the world hopscotch champion that doesn't make you any less of a retard. If you're so good why don't you git gud at life, you fucking nerd.

>>3036496
lol I find video games fun and I find competition fun. Games that mix the two are awesome in my books. I'm good at plenty of other things as well though, video games are a hobby because they're fun.

>>3036495
I don't find the old MKs as enjoyable as King of Fighters anymore. But I loved the heck out of MK9. If you still get down with old MK I say more power to you.

All this hate for Mortal Kombat. I was alright in the old days. 1 and 2 were best. 3 and beyond has been shit.

Street Fighter was alright in 1, 2, alpha, and 3.

But let's open the field a bit.

Soul Edge, Soul Calibur 1, 2, 3, 4 are all very good games.

Virtual Fighter 1 and 2 were better than MK or SF in their relative time frames. Much less of a pause between actions and much less lag during animations.

Tekken... Now I don't get how the fuck this series survived. 1 and 2 are unplayable in my eyes and always have been. It was 1. press button, 2. leave to get a drink, 3. come back and watch action and pick next button.

DoA was just tekken with more tits.

Then we have DarkStalkers which was a solid and under appreciated fighting game. It was around the same time as SF:Alpha and I think it was better overall.

Then you have MvC 1 and 2 that were both great. 3 was shit.

Rival Schools was also great, but not really my thing.

>>3036540
PvP is one of the biggest and most consistent causes of terrible communities in online games. It's getting worse and worse because of Generation Entitlement where nobody was slapped in the face for crying over a loss.

>>3036728
Lol PVP in fighters is better now than it ever has been. If you don't like it, you're more than welcome to stay away.

>>3036431
Trip trip trip... Flawless victory...

But MK2 is still one of my favourite games.

>Block button
lel

>>3034632
>the coffee really was too hot for consumption
Irrelevant, because she didn't consume it.

What she did was like the grown-up equivalent of running with scissors. It's common sense that when you have hot food or drink fresh off the stove, you should wait a few minutes for it to cool, and not try to consume it while moving.

>>3036492
I think he was trying to distinguish between people who take pride in their skill and enjoy winning, and casual idiots who play poorly and then say "I play for fun :^)" when they lose, like this loser here:
>>3036496
Take note /vr/, this is loser talk. This is what a loser looks like, don't be this guy.

>>3036767
I'd bet dollars to donuts, >>3034746 and >>3036496 are the same guy actually.

>>3036479

>>3036496
>Competing in a videogame? Who cares, you might as well be the world hopscotch champion that doesn't make you any less of a retard.

I actually agree with this. I see these guys playing MKX tourneys and going to EVO, and sure they win, but what a pathetic "job" if you can even call it that. They may be able to skate by now, but when they hit their 30s and 40s and playings video games no longer pays the bills because they can't consistently win they're not going to have a single real-world skill that will secure them a job. No employer is going to give a rat's ass you placed top 5 at EVO 10 years ago. They'll be working fast food until retirement.

>>3036804
lol No one gives a shit about fighting the computer. Plus MK isn't even the worst around.

>>3034115
>MK also was more an NA and UK thing
>lying

>>3036876
More loser talk. Yawn.

>>3036876
Are you out of your gourd? it's a hobby not a job. Even at the highest level there's almost no real money in competing in video games. The prize money if you win is a nice bonus, but no one relies on it as income. The super hardcore get jobs as play testers, but 99% of people just play and practice for the fun of the game.

EVO is basically a vacation. A huge convention tournament where you can meet all the guys you've been playing and fight some of the best in person if you're good enough. That's why people go. They have their jobs to support playing fighting games, not the other way around. Are you really so out of touch you believe this drivel?

When you see local baseball league tournaments in the summer do you go on and on about how pathetic they are for not making money at it? They're not doing it to pay the bills, they're playing a fucking game.

And lastly, if you're so negative about people who play video games for fun in their spare time, what the fuck are you doing posting on a forum about them?

>>3036919
I find him funny. He's one of the most consistently upset people ever.

>>3036916
Well he's right that it was never ever big in Japan.

>>3036876
You sir are completely retarded.

>>3036762
The courts didn't find it irrelevant because it was served to her for consumption. The fact it didn't make it to that point doesn't matter because the coffee never should've been that hot to start with. Had she actually consumed it instead of spilled it she would've scalded her throat and possibly died, so in a way she was "lucky" she only escaped with multiple skin grafts. I can make coffee at home and if I bumble around and spill it on myself I don't need to call 911 and get large portions of my skin replaced. McDonald's screwed up.

So how come you guys don't just play the games you like and get along with one another

>>3036967
Most of us do, but one guy really hates fighters and likes to rant a lot.

>>3036931
>Well he's right that it was never ever big in Japan.

Anything not made in Japan will never ever be big in Japan, unless it is something Jojo level fabulous like, say, Freddy Mercury.

>>3036964
>Had she actually consumed it instead of spilled it she would've scalded her throat and possibly died, so in a way she was "lucky" she only escaped with multiple skin grafts.

Or she could blow on it so it cools down, like how every normal human being does, and is taught to do so at age 2.

>>3037002
>still getting upset about hot coffee lady in 2016

Never change, /vr/

>>3036964
>I can make coffee at home and if I bumble around and spill it on myself I don't need to call 911 and get large portions of my skin replaced.

I can make coffee at home and I won't bumble around and spill it on myself.

Because I don't hold it between my legs while I'm driving a car.

You're not supposed to drink coffee while driving. If you do, then you should be held 100% responsible for the consequences of your mistake.

>>3037019
dae think OJ really was innocent

>>3033784
git gud,

>>3036495
I kinda feel the same way, I used to really like both of them but I don't really like Street Fighter anymore. As for the recent games I love MK 9 and X, but the last few SF games feel like failed attempts to capture nostalgia.

>>3033359
apples and oranges, anon