/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2866515
I think /vr/ could make this list on their own.
From what will we begin?

>>2866659
No idea.

EB was in fact the very first full video game ever released!

>>2866659
First idle animation.

It'd be really hard to make a list of firsts, because for every neat feature in vidya there's an older obscure game almost nobody played that did it a few years before.

>>2866515
First FPS was Daikatana

>>2866515
Earthbound was the first rpg ever made.it was produced by Peter molyneux himself for the nes entertainment system.

>>2866696
Kek

>>2866706
supposedly some obscure early home computer game called Maziacs. The main charecter impatiently taps his foot when you aren't moving, though unlike later games it's simply when ever you aren't moving, with no wait time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVlLBs7HF-w

>>2867837
This, especially with games that were unreleased or that are now lost. Or japanese, and there are no infos on the web.

Also, if you try to find something like, for example, the first game featuring a doppleganger, and you go to Prince of Persia, you'll probably find that some early game kinda did it but in a different way and get stuck on the definition of every term.

That said, I'm cool with trying to list down as many as we can.

>>2866659
First game that could save progress?

>>2868638
I don't think unreleased games should count towards it.

Anyways this would be a very autistic endeavour to do.

>>2868651
If I recall correctly, The Great cave could save your progress, but I am not sure it'd be the first one (70's game though)

>>2867849
yeah but it was directed by Sean Miyamoto (creator of Super Mario Bros and Donkey Kong Picnic) which I think made all the difference

>>2867875

An idle animation isn't just something the character does after a few minutes of inactivity: it's simply the animation that plays when you stop. So if a character is motionless but you see them breathing, that's an idle animation.

At least, that's what I thought. See, this probably won't work, because there will be disagreement over the terms and disagreements can't really be worked out on anonymous boards.

>>2868795
Probably a beat em up, I think... that... if no arcade game before donkey kong jr had it, you have your culprit there.

>>2868795
I would argue there's a difference. You described inactivity as idling, whereas I would argue that's just "neutral". Once you've been neutral for [period of time], it switches to an idle animation.

For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iKkHdkFU2c

Super Mario Bros 2 is the first game to have separate releases in different countries.

Did you know that they original made Super Megaman 3 they thought it would be too easy for Armenian gamers, so they got an old game that Iwata worked on called Donkey Kong Country and reworked the graphics and called released it.

African gamers didn't actually get to play the original game until it was included in the CAPCOM Arcade Collection as Legend of Zelda: The Misplace Courses, whereas Chinese gamer got to play the Brazillian version as Super Metroid AUS.

>>2866515
No. With billions of people we can't even get basic facts right on wikipedia.

Didn't HG101 make a big list on their blog of gaming firsts?

>>2866515
I don't think it can be said to be "the first" when it's a gameplay gimmick that is exclusive to the series. That's like saying "Final Fantasy was the first video game ever to have chocobos" which is accurate but doesn't make too much sense.

>>2867875
What's that bar on the right side of screen?

First use of procedurally-generated content in a game

According to Gamecenter CX, Hang-on was the first full body experience game.

>>2870223
Roguelikes did it earlier.

>>2870223
aren't all old arcades procedurally generated always with the same seed to save space?

>>2870281
Not him, but I don't believe so.

>>2870272
I have no idea when Rogue came out, but are you sure about that? Procedural generation isn't really randomisation. There was absolutely nothing random in Elite, the universe was identical each time.

First game with mouse support?

>>2871179
Gee, looking that up it seems i'm wrong. I wouldn't really count roguelikes myself, as the point was not the same as Elite usage of it as a way to store tens of thousands of times more information than would otherwise have been possible.

was virtual-on the first game to have semiselective target locking and circle strafing? I cant find anything like it before 1995

1st third-party NES game with battery saves. (3rd game overall, behind Zelda 1 & 2)

>>2871235
Interesting.
What was the first game ever to have battery saves? Probably some arcade game with high scores and all.

>>2866515
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=830107

First game with a sniper scope:
MDK

First game that uses bullet time as gameplay mechanic:
Requiem - Avenging Angel

First erotic computer game:
Night Life

first weapon in a FPS that would stick an enemy to the wall?

>>2869820
I don't think it's on the same league as chocobos.

Are you saying another game can't do a rolling HP bar?

>>2867875
WHAT THE HELL IS THIS GAME?!

>>2871427
What is the crossbow from Half Life.

What's the first game to have a selection of realistic guns modelled after real world counterparts? Is it Goldeneye?

>>2871548
Wolfenstein 3D, probably, as far as FPS games go, seeing as both Wolf 3D and GoldenEye can't specifically say what brand of gun they're imitating.

Soldier of Fortune, CS, and Rainbow 6 come to mind as games that didn't partially fictionalize their real-life counterparts like GE did.

>>2866659
First squeal?
text adventure?
First game that let you distribute statpoints?
First game that lets you name your character?
First higscore board?

>>2871548
Wasn't Goldeneye the first FPS to implement hit zones?

>>2871660
On the body. I'm fairly certain headshots were a thing before GE.

>>2871563

Goldeneye guns are specifically modeled after real world guns. They didn't use the real names, but you could look at the Klobb and know it's a Scorpion, you know the PP7 is a PPK, you know the KF7 Soviet is an AK47, etc.

Wolfenstein 3D's guns are just generic sprites that aren't really based on anything. As far as I know, Goldeneye is the first FPS game in which nearly every gun is modeled after a real-world one.

>>2871741

Also, the guns were actually called by their real world names during development, but that's not what matters. What I'm asking is whether or not Goldeneye is the first game to feature primarily real-world guns, regardless of whether or not it features the actual names of the weapons.

Doom used toys and drawings as it's weapons, so that doesn't count, and the guns in Wolfenstein are generic forms of their respective weapon types as far as I know.

>>2869452
>whereas I would argue that's just "neutral"
This is where you are in fact, wrong. Simply because it's standard for animations that are played when no input is provided are named "idle" typically. Most games will have those sort of animated with the name "idle" in the filename, regardless of whether a wait time is involved.

>>2871696

Can anyone think of any examples of headshots pre-Goldeneye? I'm not saying there aren't any, but I don't recall any at the moment.

>>2871743
What you're asking and what you're specifying are different. What you want to say is "Is GoldenEye the first game to have guns based on real-life examples?"

What you specifically just asked for was if GoldenEye was the first game to feature real-life guns, and the answer is no because it doesn't have any.

As for the first part, then again, no. Just off the top of my head, Ninja Gaiden 2 had a character using a not-Baretta.

With guns, like cars, brand endorsement is something that makes a difference.

>>2871783
MechWarrior 2

>>2869519
>vectorized game title
>modern high quality racoon mario
>good quality "nintendo entertainment system"
>decent "official seal"
>babbys first background removing on the game tagline
WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD YOU NOT JUST RETYPE IT IN THE SAME FONT?
Fucking hell.
God fucking dammit.

>>2871792
>"Is GoldenEye the first game to have guns based on real-life examples?"

Too lazy to quote all the relevant posts, just adding that Jagged Alliance had an M-14 and M-16, though I don't think it mentions Colt as a manufacturer explicitly.

>>2866515
First game where you play as a guy who gets to be in the game.

>>2871794
The font isn't even close and the color is wrong.

Also there's a trademark symbol that's not there on the real thing. Though all the trademark symbols seem to be missing everywhere they are supposed to be and all over where they shouldn't be.

They did a pretty fucking shit job vectorizing the title too.

Would the easiest way to do this would be to just go through all games that exist in chronological release order?

>First video-game
Cathode ray tube amusement device (1947)

>First videogame with variable difficulty
Bertie the Brain (1950)

>First game on computer exclusively designed to play videogames
Nimrod (1951)

>First derivative videogame (of Bertie the Brain)
OXO (1952)

>First sport-based videogame
>First game to include sound
>First game to simulate gravity including velocity and drag
>First multiplayer videogame (maybe)
Tennis for Two (1958)

>First sci-fi videogame
>First colour videogame
>First multiplayer only videogame
Spacewar! (1961)

>First exploration videogame
Space Travel (1969)

>First text-based videogame
>First strategy game
>First resource management game
Hamurabi (1969)

>First money-operated arcade game
>First port of an existing game (Spacewar!)
Galaxy Game (1971)

>First commercially distributed videogame
>First multi-directional shooter game
>First videogame to save and display scores
Computer Space (1971)

Then the Magnavox Odyssey (1972) comes along, and each game was stored on cards. Don't really feel like going too much into it right now...

>>2866515
I believe Dragon Buster was the first game to have a double jump

>>2868638
Depending on what you mean by doppleganger, I think Zelda II (with Shadow Link) predates Prince of Persia does it not? Or is that not what you mean?

>>2872757
I really appreciate that Starcontrol is a spacewar derivative and that it goes back so far.

... And the gameplay is really good, and the ship selection and point value is so damn precise.

>>2871743
Metal Gear's NES version (1987 / 1988) mentions a few weapons' actual models during in-game transceiver calls. I don't know if the original Metal Gear does this or not.

Handgun: Beretta M92F
SMG: Ingram MAC-11
Grenade launcher: M79

>>2872826
They did in the Japanese version, but they fucked up the romanizations. So instead of a Beretta or an Ingram, you get the Belleta and the Ingrum. The English version removed those calls among others.
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hzk/kommander/mg1scr1.html

>>2871792

What do you mean? Almost all of the guns are based on and look identical to real weapons. Name another game where nearly the entire arsenal is like that.

>>2871783
>Can anyone think of any examples of headshots pre-Goldeneye?

Team Fortress (the Quake mod). Goldeneye was definitely the first FPS to separate hit zones throughout the entire body though.

>>2871793
>MechWarrior 2

That's really, really stretching the definition of FPS. Goldeneye got its whole body part thing from Virtua Cop which was even earlier, and it would be a big stretch to call that an FPS as well.

Here's one that most people don't usually believe because it sounds so out there.

Goldeneye was the first FPS to have a dedicated key-binding you press to reload your gun.

First character creator in a game?

>>2872875
Define character creator.

>>2872875
It really depends how you define character creator, but I think early CRPG's like Ultima were the first games where you rolled your character stats and thus made your own unique character, but even those were based on D&D.

First boner.

1st Action-Adventure game
1st Metroidvania

>>2873360

>first metroidvania
>released before metroid and castlevania

Darkstalkers (1994)
- Chain combos
- Guard cancels
- Air blocking
- EX specials

>>2872778
I remember thinking about Zelda II when I made that post, but now I can't remember why I did not named that one instead.

I believe there probably was some use of a doppleganger before Zelda II, maybe some awkward pc game that would face your sprite against your sprite and they called it your evil self or something. Plausible.

>>2872874
Headshots from 26-01-97:
https://web.archive.org/web/19970704225547/http://www.teamfortress.com/files/sniper/readme.txt

>>2868651
Like an actual battery save or a "insert password" type dealy?

What was the first game with wall jumping mechanics? Batman?

>>2874228

Ninja Gaiden came out a year before Batman.

>>2866515
where can I download an emulator and roms to play this? can it be played in the ipad?

>>2871482

Painkiller actually came out April of 2004, while HL2 didn't come out until November. Might wanna fact check next time?

>>2874228
Mario.

>>2871482
Half Life didn't have ragdoll physics, dingus.

>>2871463

British.

If you see that type of cutesy, crappy animation that just pisses all over the idea of immersion in a self-consistent game world, you can assume you're looking at something British.

>>2866515
I want to know the game with the first "dark" match thing. Like a 1v1 with an evil side or whatever.

>>2873070

Wickerpedia sez

The first commercial erotic computer game, Night Life, was released by Koei in 1982.[2] It was an early graphic adventure,[3] with sexually explicit images.[2]

not that that was the earliest ever or anything but it came before Larry anyway

>>2875940

Chess

>>2875604

um

yes it did

esp with the crossbow

like the first enemy you get to shoot with it you can see it

Atari Adventure was the first game with an Easter egg.

And Lode Runner was the first with a map maker iirc.

>>2873884
>If the fire button is held down, the laser
sight activates (if the sniper has one!), and the damage slowly increases, up to
a maximum of 200. This may not be the most realistic way, but in TeamFortress it
proved to be the most fun.

First game with Cel shaded Graphics was Fear Effect on PS1. Despite what Guiness World Records will have you believe.

>>2875126
Delete system 34

>>2875468
>he thinks he was talking about 2
>he thinks we talk about games after 2000

>>2876478
thanks :)

>>2868795
>>2868808
>>2869452
Jesus Christ it's not that hard.

>First Idle Animation (No Delay)
>First Idle Animation (With Delay)

>>2876465
Fear effect wasn't cel shaded. Hand drawn or flat textures is not cel shading.

>>2875940

Zelda 2?

>>2872757
>First game on computer exclusively designed to play videogames
Nimrod (1951)

The game was Nim, Nimrod was the name of the computer.

>>2875971
nice

>>2866659
What was the first game to handle realistic fluid physics?

>>2866659
What was the first game with realistic fluid physics?

>>2876510
What are some retro examples, then?

>>2879529
I thought the earliest you could go with cell shading is Jet Set Radio on the Dreamcast, but: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cel-shaded_video_games would suggest that Doctor Hauzer on the 3DO was cellshaded, as was Fear Effect on the PSX

>>2879556
*cel shading
not cell shading. my bad.

>>2879556


what about genesis Aladdin?

first licensed game with nudity?

>>2881374
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Life_%28video_game%29

clearly OP wants a list of every gimmick in every game ever

Megami Tensei was the first RPG with monster-collecting, yes?

>>2881701
was that one dragon quest earlier? i think 3

>>2881387
Interesting, but I don't see how it's a video game unless this video doesn't show everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gve7wqJaUvM

>>2881701
>>2881751
Megami Tensei predates DQ III by about half a year.

First GTA III style sandbox game was Hunter, which predates it by 10 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu3DkheSQhY

>>2871660
>>2871696

Hit zones in the sense of
1.) zone-dependent damage, or
2.) zone-dependent animations
?

What game was the frist to have zone-dependent animations?

First night-day cycle?
>I am probably wrong but Inindo (1991) and Seiken Densetsu 3 (1995) come to mind as early examples. I've heard that Castlevania II has a night-day cycle but I've not played it. Might need to divide the category between gradual and immediate night-day change.

First dynamic change in music, if this is the right phrasing. Not a track change but a change in the instrumentation without — literally — skipping a beat.
>Super Mario World, in World 1 when you acquire Yoshi then a bongo drum type sound is added to the music

>>2883351
Go play the C64, kid. Lots of games predate yours.

>>2883540
Like?

>>2883325
Well Goldeneye had both zone-dependent damage and zone-dependent animation. It was probably the first FPS to have both, with the exception of the Team Fortress mod having specifically headshots, but no other special zones.

It definitely wasn't the first game overall to have zone-dependent animations though. There would have to be some old 2D game out there with that. A possible contestant for first 3D game might be Virtua Cop (Goldeneye's inspiration) but I can't say for sure.

>>2883545
Like all of them. They stopped making the 64 before your dad was born.

>>2871427

> first weapon in a FPS that would stick an enemy to the wall?

Aliens versus Predator (The 1999 Rebellion FPS one) had the spear gun. It could stick aliens and humans against the wall.

>>2870262
>full body experience
what does that even mean? there were realistic hunting lightgun games and flight sims before that.

>>2884701
It means using more than your hands to control the game. You move your whole body sideways to tilt the bike.

>>2879556
None of those games were cel shaded.

Was this the first honest to god furry in a commercial game?