/vr/ - Retro Games

I was replaying that game years later and came across a gold enemy, apparently there's 4 golden enemies hidden across the world that each only appears in a specific season. You only get a ring, I believe.

What's the secret in the OP?

>>2815541
First one to come to mind. Though I did read about it and didn't find it completely on my own.

>>2815597
you answered your own question

>>2815541

>>2815613
Oh that's a gold enemy? Shit.

>>2815541
>>2815541
What's being pictured here?

>>2815541
Pretty much all the cheats in Seasons took me Ages to find them

>>2815541
>Secrets that took seasons to figure out

I fixed that for you

>>2815541
Great Guy's Casino.

I never figured it out, even after spending countless hours with my friends searching the game. Eventually I got internet and checked a guide. It was such a let down.

>>2815541
I've been playing these games again recently. That was the only gold monster that I found on accident. The others I gave up on and looked up a guide. (One is complete bullshit. It requires you to go through a dungeon first to change the season.)

>>2815597
It's the ring that doubles your attack power without lowering your defense.

The Gold Rock from Chrono Trigger. Even if you went back to the mountain, you need Frog in the party, and you need to get hit, which of course you don't want to do.

I'm glad you made this thread OP, even though these games are pushing the boundaries of what I consider to be retro, because I feel like the Oracle games are the only two Zelda games that don't have secrets. Everything you can do in them is cataloged in the guide.

The biggest secrets are ones related the Moblin hideout blowing up because that's the only optional permanent effect in the game.

Although I confess I still don't know how to change partners after you get Moosh.

>>2816797
I guess I can see where you're coming from?
How about winning the flute in Seasons at the dance game so your animal buddy is Damitri instead of Rocky. That's the only one I can think of.

>these games are pushing the boundaries of what I consider to be retro
Are you 40? Your definition of retro needs explaining.

>>2816818
Is that after you already got Rocky and Damitri?

I'm 24. The games came out on my 10th birthday when I was in 4th grade. I don't consider myself old or knowledgeable in a fifth of the games on /vr/.

I suppose it's subject to subjectivity, but typically I feel if the games are younger than you need to be to browse this site, they're not retro. I.e. OoT/FFIV are not retro yet, but since they're iconic they can get away with it.

>>2816840
>Is that after you already got Rocky and Damitri?
It's as soon as you can get to Subrosia, before either of them. You play the dancing game like, 6-10 times (I think it's fun, so I played it a lot) and you win a blank green flute. Some of the scenes change, like you meed Damitri much earlier instead of in the sunken city. And there's one small section of the map that changes depending on your animal friend.

anyway

>I feel if the games are younger than you need to be to browse this site, they're not retro.
I think retro means games that the users played when they were kids. Both are valid opinions, but they're not the official rules. It was kind of strange that you needed to include your opinion for your post.

>>2816797
There are tons of secrets you lying moron. Bet this nigga don't even know where to dig in Holodrum to get under ground what a fool

Only read about it online.

>>2817083
I've never got in gen 2 but I got it without trading in Heartgold. Still never seen a shiny other than Gyarados.

>>2815648
This is an underrated post.

If you said Secrets you would have gotten all 3 oracle names in there though.

>>2816860
Thanks for the tidbit bro. I like the dancing game too.

And yeah, it was strange but it's my opinion that that these game don't belong here and I'm free to say it. They're release was 01 which was the gen before last's. That said, I meant no offense by it.

>>2816519

*Grate

:^)

>>2816797
>Everything you can do in them is cataloged in the guide.
...you do realize that applies to every single game that has a guide, right? Without the guide, Oracles have tons of secrets, probably way more than any other Zelda game with the inclusion of linked playthroughs and rings.

>>2818973
What I'm saying is, the secrets aren't really secrets because of that reason. If something is called a "Secret" within the game itself, it's not a secret.
Other Zelda games have secrets:
>original: the way you can skip dungeons. And since the game's enemies are generated per on a probability by probability case based on how many enemies you've killed, you can predict your enemy draw before you enter a dungeon, and your enemies determine your drops, which is only loosely touched on by the NPCs.
>AoL: This whole game and everything you can do is one big secret. Skipping over boss' crystal statues and coming back for big EXP boosts for one.
>ALttP: to be fair this is one where I'm biting my own tongue because I said this in another thread about this game. But at least it has some. Like what happens if you skip the Moon's Pearl and get pulled into Dark World by Agahnim.
>OoT: you can save the carpenters before doing anything as Adult Link by getting Epona. If you get caught the Gerudos will throw you out by the river. This means you can get the Ice Arrows before even getting the Bow, if you go back and get the Hookshot, Megaton Hammer, and Iron Boots; none of which you need the bow for. When you get to Dark Link if you use the Ice Arrows he will react to them, as will Bongo Bongo.
>MM: If you take Link-goro's room (because Anju has a thing with forgetting people's faces, deepest lore), and wait until 6 PM of the second day, you can eavesdrop on the room next door.

You get the idea. The Oracle games have nothing like that. I mean, I still remember when it wasn't that known that Ganon was the real boss of the games, but that wasn't a secret. It was just a reward for very, very few people outside of Japan for owning both games.

>>2815541
i was 5 or 6 when i first played smb3, i played it alot.
i found out about the magic whistles when i was 17 and it blew my mind.
i can still play that game today and find secret areas in levels.

also finding out about secret areas in oddworld oddysey/exodus. when i was younger i would play the demo for exodus alot. the giant happy face and sound effect upon discovering a new area will forever be stuck in my brain.

>WAO-wao-WAO-wao-WAO-wao-WAO-wao-

needless to say them games are some of my favourites

>>2817083
>Be some 11 year old kid, race home to play brand pokemon Gold on gameboy color when it was fairly new, play until night time fuck homework
>Second playthrough already at the final gym, grinding out some pokemon I want to level before the fight
>Fight some skarmory near that area that eventually drops you down near your hometown
>Go to heal them and the nurse tells me they have POKERUS
>I've been playing this game for a year nonstop, think I am genuinely seeing shit
>I even get a call from prof ELM or something about it
>I am super scared for some reason
>Save the game and turn it off right away, convinced it's my imagination
>Wake up and think about how weird that night was
>Load up game, they have pokerus
>Scared shitless, didn't really have internet access, looked it up at school on gamesages.com and other places
>Can't find shit about it, feel like my pokemon are going to die
>Swap out everyone but the starter and get new uninfected pokemon, feel like the infected have cancer
>I think the new ones get pokerus later on too if I remember right
>End up feeling bad and restarting, convinced I am the only person in the world that this happened to (all 3 of my friends never encountered it)
>Read up on it years later, it's apparently some rare super stat boosting virus
>Rightfully feel retarded as fuck forever

Good fucking times man

>>2819013
>the secrets aren't really secrets because of that reason. If something is called a "Secret" within the game itself, it's not a secret.
The only things called "secrets" in the game are the password exchange stuff. You must have not played them very recently if you think there aren't secrets. How Maple works, the gold beasts in pic related, most things related to specific rings, all of these are secrets. You're defining "secret" as "skipping stuff in the game". Majora's Mask was loaded with secrets, I'll agree with that.

Ganon being the real boss is probably the biggest surprise in Oracles, and it's not "just a reward for very, very few people". You don't need to own both games, you just need the passwords, and as soon as the games released password information was all over the internet. There's even a program to create your own password that I remember using back when the games were released.

And "outside of Japan"? What does that even mean? America had both games too, there was no big Japanese conspiracy to make getting into the Ganon boss fight easier.

Again. Your original point was that the games have no secrets because you could find them all in a guide. That's what guides are for, you can find every Majora's Mask secret in a guide, too, but that's on you.

>>2815541
it took me seasons to find that one out

>>2821604
That's on the developers for giving it such a stupid ass name, there's not even any real viruses that do this kind of shit, I don't know where they got this idea from.

>>2815598
I found it too but what the message actually means only made sense not long ago when I saw a video about zelda secrets.

>>2815541
>>2815597
wtf ive probably played oos for literally a month and i didnt know about this

>>2815626
I love how the stage closes behind you like "you're stuck here, forever"

>>2823704

>>2816519
Right? You expected some BIG COLORFUL AS FUCK CASINO. Like Marrymore, just a casino.

>>2821604
I like to think Pokerus is like Chicken Pox.

I remember blowing my 5th grade friends away with Missingno. They thought I was some elite hacker

(No one in my town had internet or even knew how to use a computer)

>>2823746
it's usually something you find out in the postgame.
That's why it took me so long to find the other 3 after killing the Spring enemy, since every region turns to Spring after you finish the game. I tried all kinds of stuff but the idea of changing the season came to me much later.

>>2821604
Yeah and the weird thing is that it's so rare and it's an actual built in part of the game, and it's NEVER talked about. Like we figured out how to Surf on Cinnibar near the gym to find missingno, we figured out how to get a pokemon with a special of like 37 or something in the third slot of your inventory ir some shit, walk to a trainer that you encounter by walking into view and pausing the game at the same time, don't fuck up, fly away, to some random route and walk into grass and you find a level 26 Mew BEFORE we heard of the fucking pokerus. I've played the games for over 800 hours total and still never personally encountered it. It was my very first game when I was 5, and that was 16 years ago. Fucking weird decision on the developers part.

>>2824724

Uh I don't know about you but back in the 90's where I frequented we talked about Pokerus all the time. Mind you it didn't exist until Gold/Silver came out. It wasn't a feature in the original

Didn't take ages to find out, but it did take ages to get a drop.

>>2819013
sequence breaking ≠ secret

>>2824805
Never got it.
I remember too because I was like 11 or 12 and I was counting the enemies I fought. It was some ridiculous drop rate like 1/256 or something. So my dumb child mind thought that meant I had to beat 256 to get it. So I killed 256 nothing. So I started over and counted again.
Nothing.
So a third time.
Nothing.

Eventually I just gave up and beat the game with my now comically overpowered team.

>>2821604
I didn't even realize it was in G/S. I never encountered it until R/S.

Level select codes in games like Asterx, Obelix and Smurfs on the GB. Would've made my time with these games as a kid sooo much more enjoyable.

>>2824805

ive played through earthbound probably 10 times since i played it at release, and ive never gotten it to drop. probably only seriously tried to find it maybe twice though.

Well, the first time I played Super Metroid it took months to find the passage leading to Kraid in the elevator room.

>>2824512

How did you find/hear about Missingno.?

>>2831032
Probably from the Internet.

Not so much a secret, but it wasn't until my adult years that I figured out how to get easy stars against Soda Popinski in NES Punch Out.

Sure as hell made that fight a bit easier.

>>2821604

Not really a secret, but that reminds me of the time I freaked the fuck out when I got a Pokegear call from a Hiker alerting me of a Dunsparce swarm. For some reason, I hadn't heard of Dunsparce yet. It's strange considering, like most Pokemon kids, I was super hyped about the new gens and had pretty much read about all the mons before I finally got the game. Anyway, I was 11 as well, it was late at night (family had gone to sleep, I think) and I had no clue what a "Dunsparce" was, so I was convinced that my game was glitching out or fucking with me Ben Drowned style. I immediately turned it off--without saving (dunno how much progress I lost)--and went to bed terrified.

>>2824805
>mfw I got this on the second try
I was a lucky son of a bitch, I tell ya

>>2816818
>>2816840
>Rocky
>Damitri

>>2823704

I chuckled

>>2819013
>I mean, I still remember when it wasn't that known that Ganon was the real boss of the games, but that wasn't a secret. It was just a reward for very, very few people outside of Japan for owning both games.
????? everyone knew that mang. i was 11 when this came out. and gannon was mentioned in the first one you play

>>2815598
funny enough, this wasn't intended as a "secret" per se. that's a bug trap room to make sure the game doesn't crash in specific circumstances.

>>2831128
You didn't miss much, Dunsparce is less then useless.

>>2832124

Is it? Too bad, it looks so cute.

Oh and regarding my story--I just remembered that the exact same thing happened when a Swimmer (I guess) called me telling me about some Remoraid. I must've been a pretty stupid kid lol.

>>2832809
Gamefreak is the one to blame for creating all those Pokemon in Gen 2 and then hiding them all into places nobody would find them and making the region 90% Gen 1 Pokemon.

Bravo, GF.

>>2832816
Not like you're missing anything. Most Gen II Pokemon are horribly underpowered.

>>2832816
Remember how Natu and Smeargle are only in one patch of grass that you have to revisit a cave in order to find?

That peach is rosalina's mother

>>2832837

By the Ruins of Alph, right? I went there specifically to hunt down a Natu to add to my team as a flyer, because I didn't really like any of the other Flying types in Gen II (other than Skarmory). I'm very picky about my Flying types.

>>2824805

Man, by the time I usually got it, my party was in the 70's or higher from trying to get the damn thing. It adds, what, 30 points of damage to Poo's physical attack?

Goddamn, you chucklefucks and your title jokes.
Quit making me smile.

>>2831971

I thought it was a kid who won a contest

>>2837982
It was, but I remember reading they never actually told him about the room so he probably doesn't know it's there

>>2815541
>Seasons screenshot
well meme'd

>>2821604
>see shiny pokemon for the first time
>didn't know shiny pokemon were a thing
>white Rattata
>scared that it's a bug that will break my game
>run away from battle

well shit

>>2832832
>Skarmory
>Blissey

killme.jpg

>>2815598
My brother and I got there on accident. What are the fucking odds?

>>2831971
Wrong. The kid won a contest.

>>2840570
The kid won a contest and the prize was getting his name in "Zelda 3".

So he got his name in Link to the Past. In a bug trap room to make sure the game doesn't crash in specific circumstances. That's why it's so hard to access it. It's also why it exists in the Japanese version of the game as well as the GBA port, only without the kid's name in those versions. It's needed for the game to not crash.

>>2840576
Nah, your still wrong

>>2828183
>My first run
>Know vaguely about it
>"Hey, something Poo can equip, FINALLY"
>Go on /vr/ a few months later
>"Oh yeah,"

Hahah. I mean, it's just an item, in a game, but still.

>>2819013
> It was just a reward for very, very few people outside of Japan for owning both games.

Kek sounds like someone didn't have friends with gameboys.

pre-internet, kids just somehow heard about a think called "pink". Literally over 20 years later I learn it's the "pink tail" and even with save states never got it. The encounter for these guys is like 1/64 and THEN the drop rate for the tail is 1/64. gtfo with that shit

>>2842752
1/4096 drop ain't that bad my man

>>2817201
There were only two Oracles games, Ages and Seasons. Nintendo/Capcom planned three but the third was cancelled and its content put into the two that were released.

>>2842769
In a pre-mmo, pre-internet world that was terrible.

>>2832816
Yeah I always thought that was a really weird design choice.

At what point in development did they realize they should add some new pokemon? It's almost like Gold and Silver were designed with only the original 151 pokemon in mind. Over half the gen 2 roster is only available in Kanto (which makes no in-universe sense by the way) and most of the gymleaders don't even use any gen 2 pokemon.

>>2843067
I think he's talking about how there's three Oracles in the games, Nayru (Ages), Din (Seasons), and Farore (Secrets, in charge of linking the two games).

>>2842752
I remember an issue of OPM that had an interview with a game tester that actually had to find one of these things and it drove him insane. Wish I could find the specific issue in question.

>>2815598
people never believe me this room existed for years until another kid did it. i was branded a lier and such... the fact people called me a lier and cheat about stuff like this is what drove me to game genie/sharks/ monster brains/ action replay

>>2844254
*liar