/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2815034
Personal tastes man.
Yours are specially hipster, that's all.

>>2815034
because you're a faking fagot

>>2815034

It's one of those games that you go into expecting something shitty then it ends up surprising you with it's not-so-shittiness.

>>2815034
Nah man, I told you it was shit. During the Genesis era, one of my friends was "blessed" with this "gem". Poor guy. This game is worse than Gadget Twins.

Go look in the archive, maybe it'll jog your memory

This game is good, but you wont like it if you dislike difficult controls.

>>2815519
Looks like he finally got out of his ban.

>>2815034
It's an incredible game, but it's fairly hard and requires you to get skilled with it's unique control scheme in order to make it though the challenges. It's also not an action game, it's focus is exploration and puzzles, so anyone going to play it needs to be aware of that.

In general I would say it's an excellent game for people who like exploring under stress and a something that's going to challenge them from almost the beginning to the end.

I would say it's a bad game for people wanting some straight up action or who do too many drugs that learning a new control scheme and having to maintain patience under pressure. For people like that it would be a terrible and impossibly hard game. They would likely try it and become so angry at how bad they are that they would never get over it.

Don't be one of them. Don't do drugs and play Ecco. Especially if you suck at it.

Good. It's a game for hipsters.

>>2815563
I've smoked my weight in pot and I fucking love Ecco. It seriously boils down to a person's overall patience and adaptability to unique control schemes; while drug use does effect how some people play, it really depends on the person playing. Quit trying to start shit where it doesn't apply.

>>2815631
Yeah I honestly like weed as well, but I wouldn't want to try learning to play Ecco while high.

That was mockery of the original thread where the guy was such a total burnout he could barely get anywhere in the game and then proceeded to smoke more and more, troll more and get more pissed off until he got himself banned. Poking him is funny now.

If you like your weed and can handle Ecco with it, more power to you.

>>2815638
I wasn't around for the previous thread, my bad. At least you aren't another radical straightedge shitposter.
>>2815612
>One of the most critically acclaimed and recognizable titles for the Genesis
>for hipsters
Nani?

>>2815707
It still sitting in the archive. Pretty hilarious read if you want a chuckle. >>2802832

>>2815707
>>2815727
I also saved the deleted posts if you're curious to see them.

Its really bad
Pic related, it's me

>>2816490
Cool

Tell us why you think that

>>2816503
I moved too fast past the octopus and he stole all my weed

>>2815563
>people who like exploring under stress
That would explain why I ended up loving Silent Hill. Thank you, Ecco.

>>2816517
That isn't a legitimate argument, you just suck

Woah deja vu

>>2816490
That meme is retarded because Seth actually has done stuff that wasn't just being a stoner before. It would have made more sense if it was this guy instead.

>>2816517
lol'd

Try playing it high

>>2815563
>I would say it's a bad game for people [. . . ] who do too many drugs that learning a new control scheme and having to maintain patience under pressure.

You lost me.

>>2815034
This is a vaporware meme

>>2817078
Funny, I remember playing it in the early 90s you underage.

>>2816875
Smoke too much? He's talking about the difficulty not meshing well with intoxication.

This game is best played during really hot Summer days.

Also love the Earth life VS. aliens theme.

>>2816875
That's okay, if you find it hard to hold your concentration for an entire sentence then you would never make it through Ecco. Just go do more drugs.

>>2817365
I love those ice levels so much. The music and everything so pretty. Those fucking crabs though.

>>2817368
>I love those ice levels so much.
So does Ecco, look at that smile on his face as the ice slides on his belly.
What a groovy motherfucker he is.

>>2817389
Every section of Ecco is so beautiful. Some of the visuals in those games still blow me away.

>>2817368

I'm stone cold sober and can't read that abomination of a run-on sentence that was pointed out to you, asshole. Stop blaming all your insecurities on other people's supposed drug use.

>>2817585
Feeling edgy today, are you?

>>2817590

Feeling overly sensitive today, aren't you?

Re-read your fucking sentence. It makes no sense. Maybe you're the one taking too many drugs...

>>2817360

Samefagging today, are we?

>>2817596
Just the head of my cock. :)

>>2817607

Yeah, we all know Ecco gives you a hard-on.

That's why someone shared their dolphin porn collection with you in your last thread.

>>2817607

And at least own up to the fact that your whiny anti-drug sentence reads like it was written on drugs, doucheboy.

>>2817596
lol re-reading it now I did leave the end hanging.

>I would say it's a bad game for people wanting some straight up action or who do too many drugs that learning a new control scheme and having to maintain patience under pressure is too much to handle.

Fixed, and not even a run on sentence. Here's a simple version for your short attention span though.

>It's a bad game for people wanting straight up action or who do so many drugs that learning and performing under pressure is hard.

If that's too complex for you seek help. You are either taking too many drugs or have a mental disability. Either way, good luck in your life.

>>2817612
Indeed. Welcome back from your ban. Didn't waste any time getting back to trolling I see. Almost down to the minute.

>>2817618

Drugs would probably make a typing monkey like you smarter... Like the Lawnmower Man. Then you could enter Ecco's virtual world and finally fuck him in the ass while he makes that annoying yelp sound that doesn't seem to bother you...

>>2817623

Then you two could switch off and he could fill your mouth with his huge salty mutant cock... my god, maybe I like Ecco after all...

NOOOOOOO

ECCO!

>>2817623
I'm so glad you care. :)

>>2817623
The best part of this is that it's let me pin point you even better. I always thought I could recognize your particular brand of retarded shitposting and now I'm certain.

>>2817641

Ironically I'm not OP nor even a stoner... Just someone trying to piss you off while typing with ellipses to throw you off (since you think you're such a anti-drug detective or whatever the fuck your problem is)... There are more than 2 people on 4chan as you've already stated previously.

>>2817649
I'm not even an anti drug detective. I like drugs too. But too many are bad and a certain Ecco hater around these parts is a complete burnout so it's always funny to crank his nipples over it.

>>2817661

Except that you think everyone is him and you end up attacking everyone for no reason at all.

Meanwhile, I can assure you that the actual troll probably wasn't even a stoner. He was just busting your balls and talking shit as trolls do.

You do know the first rule to 4chan is to not believe anything you read here, right?

Anyway, Ecco isn't a complete piece of shit, but it certainly isn't a good game either. No need for a weekly thread about a so-so game. I'm getting pretty tired of seeing these threads myself, so I don't blame someone for randomly lashing out.

>>2817675
Meh, it's all good. This place is my entertainment, it's not like anything that happens here matters.

Ecco is an amazing game and a classic though which is why it gets talked about frequently. Sorry if that upsets you?

>>2817675
>but it certainly isn't a good game either.

Care to explain how?

>>2817684

>Sorry if that upsets you?

There you go again. You couldn't end your post without being snarky against anyone that doesn't care for the game. This is why you get trolled. Just pointing it out.

>>2817695
You're the one that said he was upset not me... I'm just explaining to you why it's popular.

>>2815034


You mean you didn't enjoy the greatest Genesis game ever made?

>>2817576
Tides of Time 3D port can't come soon enough.

>>2817735
It's official?? When did I miss this?

>>2817612
>someone

That all got deleted.

Hello again. I got your argument right here.

Construct a better one or leave.

>>2817764
No sorry, just my wishful thinking. I don't think they've announced the next round yet, but Tides was one of the one they mentioned being a possibility along with Beyond Oasis and possibly more Treasure.

>>2817824
>numerous bong tokes later

Whoop, forgot to put in a cap of >>2805494

Oh well

>>2817832
He did take a really long time; I thought you'd like that

>>2817618
The problem is your illogical use of conjunctions and overall sentence structure. Your second sentence made a lot more sense.

>>2817824

Poorly constructed controls have nothing to do with drug consumption. At this point your posts are even more fueled by rustled jimmies than those written by most trolls. Go outside and play already, little boy.

>>2817973
Except the controls in Ecco are amazing and fluid. That's what was trying to be explained. It can feel awkward at first because it's a very unique control scheme, but the player actually has an incredible amount of control over Ecco. If they weren't as tight as they are, the harder sections of the game would be nigh impossible.

>>2817972
>11/25/15(Wed)14:45:48

>>2817973
>11/25/15(Wed)14:46:25

I see you, friend.

>>2817973
It has everything to do with drug consumption. Stop smoking so much marijuana and you might start learning from your actions.

>>2817973
You are such a fucking burn out. I even like weed, but everyone who does it knows it fucks with your ability to learn while you're high.

Getting stoned and trying to learn how to play a difficult game like Ecco with a completely different control scheme really isn't the best idea. It's not surprising you didn't like it, but the fault is all yours.

>>2817985
You realize all you did was prove that this isn't a samefag, right?

>>2817975
wow its great to see the movement laid out like that. Ecco for me was a great game, the controls seemed tight but the movement is quite fast so its hard to control sometimes, (pluss you are underwater and slide after you press the button), but with practice you can do some pretty awesome stuff. anyone here playd the later ecco games?

>>2817975

Ok. This is why there are numerous people that complain about the same flaw in that game. Pick an online review, any review, and you'll hear them mention how shitty the controls are. They must all be high off their gourds.

>>2817985

And that is correct. You just quoted 2 completely different people proving that you're a retard once again. Yet we all see you samefagging and acting like some kind of anti-drug jock on steroids. Go play NARC instead, Flanders.

>>2818003

I can just picture you high-fiving your mom after saying that.

>>2818043
If you liked the first game, Tides of Time is also really good and you will probably like it equally.

The Dreamcast game, Defender of the Future is made by different developers and takes place in an alternate time line, but is a very good game in it's own right.

Ecco Jr isn't really worth playing if you're over the age of 10. It's super, super simple.

>>2818053
Hello, I am new to this conversation and never had any problem with the control and thought it was awesome. Played Ecco and ecco 2.

The worst thing of the entire series is the opening of Ecco 2. It's like the sonic elevator, except the solution actually IS to make it oscillate perfectly.

The real question is:

WHY IS THIS GAME SUCH A FAG MAGNET?

>>2818068
ok great thanks, ill check it out.
>>2818069
i just never understood how people could mess up that sonic elevator, it seemed pretty easy to me at the time

>>2818079
SICK BURN from the stoner

>>2818064
>I'm going to get stoned and use heavy machinery! I hope I don't forget to take my tie off!

>>2817824
The fuck is this readable easy to follow shit? That's not how you're supposed to take a screencap!

>>2817824
I was the gay dolphin sex guy not him.

>>2817975
I would have loved to have seen an Ecco game on
a 32 bit system like the Saturn.
The Saturn was amazing when it came to 2d Graphics and sprites.

>>2818386

He swears everyone is that one "burnout". That's why so many of us are randomly trolling him now.

>>2817824

Not even any of these guys, but if your screencap of humiliating defeat means yourself, then great job. All you managed to do the entire thread was make yourself look like an overbearing manlet trying to push your dolphin agenda on the guy, and then when other people started dogging you too, you were like 'w-well I sure got him r-right guys?' lmao

>>2817735
Amen brother.

>>2815034
I warned you in your last thread that it is overrated to a ludicrous degree and that you wouldn't have any fun.

>>2819250
I'm the big big Ecco lover around here who talks about it all the time and was one of the main people trolling that guy. But really only because it was funny as he got increasingly upset over a game he doesn't even like. And also that his reasons for thinking it was crap boiled down to he wanted it to be more of an action game and was too stoned to learn how to play. I don't actually care that he or anyone else doesn't like it. That's how a lot of my favorite games are, like Fez.

The guy who took the screenshot was a lot more invested I think. But it's 4chan, so who knows?

>>2818557
God yes! Considering what they did with the graphics on Genesis feels like borderline wizardry, I would have loved to see what Saturn could really do. But, these days if the rights ever do go back and we get a new game it will be able to look even better. I want to swim through some glorious HD Zdeněk Burian paintings and fight prehistoric aliens or some shit. Some day perhaps. Otherwise I need to learn to code before I die.

if you thought these were good, ull cum buckets for ecco dotf

>Ecco the Dolphin is a really poor video game. I mean a game about dolphins, seriously?

>>2819250
Because I did. He never bothered expanding his argument beyond "it's too hard and one sound effect bothers me". There was no agenda pushing, hyperbolic as it was.

You feel free to think that though :^)

>>2819916

You refuse to accept other's opinions as valid. Just because you don't agree with something doesn't mean it isn't a valid opinion. That last thread was nothing but you being a dickhead and people having a laugh while dicking you around. You still won't even acknowledge that you got trolled so hard he had you writing paragraphs for no reason at all and leaving you asking him to be just as retarded as you and do the same thing... It's no wonder why he never came through... So instead of accepting the fact that you got trolled in a bad way, you just started claiming some false victory. Quite sad to say the least, but what could be expected from someone that praises such a lackluster game to begin with.

Bump.

>>2819443
Somewhere in the nineties, they thought everything was better with Dolphins.
Like Japanese hamburgers.

>>2820780
The funniest thing about all of this is how the same you all are. Until the last sentence of your post I thought you were the Ecco lover guy mocking the hater dude. The shit flinging is exactly the same both ways lol

>>2820780
No one is saying your opinion is invalid. No one is really telling you that you should like the game. It's that the reasons you give far saying it's bad are either arbitrary such as it wasn't an action game or simply incorrect like when you say the games have bad controls.

As pointed out, although the learning curve is very steep because there's nothing else like it and the game throws you into the deep end pretty quickly it takes some practice to master. But once you do take the time to get used to him you will see >>2817975 his control is actually very smooth and precise. And that's
evidenced by the fact that the game gets really hard in the later stages and if the controls weren't as tight as they are doing things like the Asterite battle and final level wouldn't be possible.

No one ever told you that you had to like the game, if it's not for you then great go play something else you like. But if you make a bunch of what are essentially troll posts about how bad it is and cite ridiculous and nonsensical reasons then people are going to correct you and probably make some fun in the process.

All this faggotry here and nobody mentions the Sega CD version? Way better than the Genesis version.

>>2821441

Why did you bump this shit when it was about to die? Fuck you. I'm a butthurt Ecco lover btw.

>>2823445
I'll bump whatever the fuck I want cunt.

BUMP

>>2823152
Only real diff is the music and I prefer the Genesis music.

>>2824259

the genesis version of tides of time had such a great opening theme. its a shame that we never got a well orchestrated version in the sega cd version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32S2oJuANxo

>>2817078
That's vaporwave bud.

>>2824510
that game freakd me out as a kid the dolhpin crying in the last level i belive

>>2824976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBInc6kp5iI

>>2824259

Ecco CD has a couple new levels

Whoever wants to yiff a dolphin itt raise your paw

>>2824989

>makes all the same arguments as the stoner did

someone is about to lose their shit again...

>>2823152
I actually don't think the Sega CD soundtrack fits the game nearly as well and the Genesis version. The extra levels are good though the game doesn't really need two open ocean levels. I'd really like to play a version with the extra levels but using Genesis sound as well as the final Stomach one from the Japanese version.

>>2817360
He needs punctuation. He writes like an autistic, little fuck.

>>2824989
Wow that guy is terrible. He says the game requires you to swim carefully but gets flustered by the air meter rushes anyways and then gets pissed when he dies. Youtube celebs crack me up.

>>2826413

You can just modify the WAV files and add the Genesis tracks if you want to.

I like the CD soundtrack, but the Genesis one is more quirky and unique. I like both.

>>2826435

>More butthurt Ecco boy posts.

Yeah, because the problem isn't actually the game mechanics right? It's not like numerous people complain about the same... oh wait.

>>2826413
>I actually don't think the Sega CD soundtrack fits the game nearly as well and the Genesis version.

Agreed, while the CD music is beautiful it doesn't really convey the same emotions the original soundtrack does.

Like at the ending, you get this very happy theme where they all escape.
CD version just has a soft theme playing, giving your final win a rather.. meh feel.

>>2826469
That's a good idea thanks, didn't suspect it would be that easy. Last level is another matter, but I can just play that on it's own any time.

>>2826504
lol there's literally nothing at all wrong with the mechanics. The levels are all designed so you have time to get around and not run out of breath. He says outright that the game freaks him out so he rushes. It's not the game's fault he doesn't want to bother learning to play it well.

Which there's no reason to if he doesn't like it, as has been pointed out many times. But he's a spaz and trying to force his way through it to get more hits on his youtube channel. A pretty shining example of why youtubers get mocked so heavily around here.

>>2826505
>CD version just has a soft theme playing, giving your final win a rather.. meh feel.

I agree, the CD soundtrack is nice but kind of sleepy and doesn't mesh as well with the game. I like it on it's own better ironically.

>>2826413
Is that final Jap only level actually fun?

>yfw this scene

>>2826618

>>2826689

>>2826593
It's alright but you're really not missing anything special. I can see why it was left out of other versions.

Out of all the games I've played in my life this one shits on my nostalgia the most. When I was young it was awesome playing as a dolphin. Now I find it unplayable (boring, slow, tedious).

>>2827108
try playing it high

>>2827120
this again
no thank you i enjoy video games more sober

>plays for 5 minutes
>doesn't look at any manual or reference for what you're suppose to do

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

>>2827272

>gets mad every time someone casually mentions they don't enjoy playing his favorite game... claims he's not mad and then begins to demand an essay on why it isn't an enjoyable game... skims over it and blames everything on user error. repeat ad nauseam

>>2827108
That's pretty understandable. If you played it when you were quite young like 12 and under or so, you probably would have just had fun splashing around in the water catching fish and stuff.

Whereas the main game is quite challenging and requires a lot of patience under pressure and enjoying exploring. It's certainly not a game for everyone.

>>2827501
It still feels like you think there's only you and one other guy here. I'm the one that bugs you about that stuff and it's purely because you're an idiot that tried to play the game stoned and didn't like it and then have literally spent weeks complaining about it. Yet when asked what you actually thought was bad about it, your reasons are increasingly hilarious.

>>2820780
I wasn't asking for an opinion. I was asking for criticism.

"This game is hard" is not criticism. You just suck. This "trolling" angle is irrelevant as we're here to have a discussion, not mindlessly fling unsubstantiated opinions about.

>>2828213
This is fun. I left to see if it would 404, but he continues to bump it just so I could see his poorly-constructed excuse. How nice of him.

>>2828213
>>2828658

>refuses to accept the fact that he's still getting trolled

>>2828712
That's irrelevant. I couldn't care less whether or not you're "trolling" me, I have yet to see valid criticism on the difficulty; the one point you might be able to argue. That's all I wanted to see.

>>2828725

You keep thinking everyone that replies to you is the same person. Yet you just accused someone else of being an idiot for thinking there were only 2 people in this thread. Way to go there, genius.

>>2828712
You could look at it that way. Or you could look at it like every time he shows his stupid face here I'll be right there mocking him. I don't care at all that he doesn't like the game, I just think it's funny how mad it made him and it's a lot of fun to poke.

>>2828751
How ironic.

>>2828754
Top lol. Hi brother.

>>2828767
Hello again.

How many marajuannas should I inject before playing this game?

>>2828861
Enough to give yourself a brain haemorrhage.

Dood.

>>2823152

DC>CD>Genesis

>>2829906
Ha! Good one!

>>2829909

prove me wrong

you cant

>>2829910
IPs transitioning from 2D to 3D are hardly worthwhile. I can't say I've personally played it but that's for a reason; the space for you to explore in the original games is multiplied tenfold while retaining the original amount of puzzle elements, and as a result it become much longer and way more tedious. That's sort of the nature of 2D to 3D. Controls aren't nearly as tight from what I can tell either. Pa~ass.

>>2815034

This game is good as fuck and your bad opinion has triggered the fuck out of me

>>2826689
>>2826618
That part didn't scare me when I was a kid it just made me really sad.

>>2823152

Doesn't this version have checkpoints

Because that's bullshit

>>2829924
Lmao this thread was made by a shitposter in the last ecco thread when his shitty opinion got BTFO

Don't worry, /vr/ isn't changing as drastically as you think

>>2818053

Online reviewers of video games are mostly stupid kids, hacks being paid to say whatever, or both.

Ecco has good controls.

>>2823152

That was the first version I played. It had educational videos about dolphins stuck into it. Pretty weird.

>>2824989

huh, never heard of this mushmouthed fatman, but... yup he's got 300,000 views... how sad :(

>>2829929
Like, in the middle of the level? I always thought the "level-by-level" checkpoints worked just fine.

>>2830026

In the middle of the level

It's either the Sega CD version, the Japanese version, or both, but I know some version of this game has checkpoints

>>2830037
Like, I get why, but why would the programmers bother? I always thought the price of cartridge games lent itself to the replayability factor; if you're not progressing, play better.

Either way, I can agree that having checkpoints is needless aside from the later levels, but by then you should have gotten used to the difficult nature of the game.

This casualised bullshit is why we had/have "easy" mode. Pushover assholes unwilling to challenge themselves.

Is this the thread where the Ecco lovers post dolphin dick pics and try to blame it on weed smokers??

>>2829919
> I can't say I've personally played it

Not him, but please stop talking out your ass over things you haven't even experienced. The Dreamcast game is quite different from the Genesis ones, but I wouldn't call it tedious at all. I also don't like it quite as much, but if you liked the 2D Ecco games you'll still probably really enjoy it. So I'd recommend at least trying someday.

>>2830037
I don't see that that's such a bad thing. The Ecco games are fairly hard, if you're good at the game you can just ignore the checkpoints are there. But if it helps a less skilled or younger player get through it then I think that's a good thing.

>>2830215
Okay, okay, I'll go burn a disk. Don't have to jump down my throat about it.

>>2823152
The soundtrack feels out of place in the CD version. The music is great on it's own but I'd much rather have the original soundtrack. It's like the US Sonic CD soundtrack.

>>2830220
>you can just ignore the checkpoints are there.

I mean, you can't really. It doesn't ask you if you want to restart from a checkpoint. I could re enter the password every time I die but that'd be annoying as fuck

>>2831992
So you're cool with the game wanting you to play through half the level again, but the idea of having to enter the code again is too much? That's some real nitpicking.

>>2834001

Not really. Having to shut the game off and reenter a password isn't really fun liking playing a challenging level

I have the suspicion that you're just trying to push my buttons, friend.

I love how all the Ecco fans posting here just keep getting more and more autistic...

>>2834212

I love how your mom screams when I fuck her from behind

>>2834227

2 edgy 4 u

>>2815612
>using hipster as an insult
Just say you don't like it.

What's with this guy calling all the people who don't like Ecco stoners?

>>2834202
So you're fine with spending 15 minutes replaying a level, but not 30 seconds inputting a level code to avoid playing those 15 minutes again? Are you for real?

>>2837610

I think we've run into some miscommunication here

I am advocating -against- checkpoints

>>2815563

Lol, I almost exclusively play retro games (including ecco, one of my favorites) while high on marijuana. Ecco is especially fun in this way, it's such a great combination of comfy and stress.

Then again, I've been a hardcore gamer my entire life and I smoke weed almost every day after work, so maybe I'm a special snowflake for being able to learn and play Ecco well while under the influence. Pretty sure I've never played Ecco sober though, lol.

I'll admit, however, that I prefer the Sega CD version for the checkpoints. If I'm not mistaken, the other versions don't let you respawn at the crystal gates, right?

>>2815034
It was only ever popular for the graphics. There's no substance to it.

>>2815707
>One of the most critically acclaimed and recognizable titles for the Genesis
>for hipsters
Neutral Milk Hotel is critically acclaimed too.

>>2837265
Don't ask questions you can answer yourself

>>2837265
That doesn't really tell us where you stand. I mean, you realise that album was/is the posterchild for /mu/ right?

>>2837931
>I am advocating -against- checkpoints

I know you are, and I think it's silly. You think if you die you should replay the level from the start. Which is fair, that's how I like to play as well. But you're saying that although playing through it again is fine, having to enter that level code is too much of a chore. It's a silly complaint, and I think if the checkpoints made the game more playable for some people then it's fine they're there.

At any rate if entering the password is really too much bother, the debug code works in all versions so you can just quickly do that and warp to the start.

>>2838576
I don't even know what this statement is supposed to mean.

>>2839521
I think he means "critically acclaimed things can be for hipsters", though I think he's just using it as ad hominem without acknowledging he's on one of the most hipster boards on 4chan himself.

Cute.

>>2840417
I see now. I'd never heard of them so didn't know it was a band at first. Also the word hipster has changed so much over the last few years I barely know what people mean when they use it anymore.