/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2808462

it doesn't matter, play them in any order.

>>2808462

only play Earthbound and fuck the rest.seriously.

it's better to play them in order but it won't ruin them or anything if you don't.

mainly I'd say just play mother 2 before 3 to get the full impact out of it

I wouldn't recommend playing any of them

Playing Mother 1 before the other two will only net you a very few loose associations between it and Earthbound. Earthbound and Mother 3 are the two significantly related games.

>>2808490
This, and Mother 1 looks like shit.

>>2808462
2 and 3 yes
skip 1

>>2808497
it's by far the best sounding game on the NES though

>>2808558
that's not lagrange point

>>2808558
It's a tie between Mother and Final Fantasy III - both have great sound tracks.

>this thread
Aren't you supposed to play the first game of a series?

Honestly, I didn't think it was bad enough to skip it. Helps to understand Magicant and Franklin Badge.

>>2808684
Mother is one of my favorite series and I still haven't finished the first one it's not like it's a big deal

the only reason I haven't finished it is because my girlfriend died before we could finish it and I always stop at exactly the same spot when that silly girl with the same pink hat as her shows up and jesus christ I'm never going to get over this

I haven't finished Earthbound and I started playing Mother 3 once. It really doesn't matter. I'd tell you to just start with Earthbound because it's the most easily accessible.

>>2808684
>Aren't you supposed to play the first game of a series?

Depends on the series. For most cases release order is best

Not really. The first is like a poor man's Dragon Quest in that you will be spending your time doing nothing but grinding with no real story to make it worth it.

The only story tie it has is that it causes the final boss of the 2nd game to be insane. Thats.... about it. And even then all you need to know in the second game is "he's an evil psychic alien" who happens to be crazy.

>>2808462
i really liked earthbound and mother 3 was ok.
mother 1 felt like an earthbound nes demake.

i guess i should have played mother 1 first but its still not earthbound tier.

>this thread again

>>2808490
Please explain to me how are Mother 2 and Mother 3 more related than Mother 1 and Mother 2.
They all share the same thing: the antagonists.
If you play Mother 2 without having played 1, you won't get who the final boss is.
Same thing about Mother 2 and Mother 3.

I can also argue that Mother 3 has some connections to Mother 1, for example the seashell houses of the Magypsies being like the seashell houses from Mother 1's magicant, but that's not really relevant to the plot, although they could serve to fanwank some theories.

Anyway, the true answer to this thread's question is that you ideally should play them in order.
If you're too much of a pussy to handle a NES RPG because the random encounters, then use the casual easy ring hack, and if you're still too much of a pussy to handle the "dated graphics" or whatever then I don't know what the fuck are you doing on /vr/

>>2808476
This. You can play mother 1 later and still perfectly "get" the story. Gyigas is just a big bad alien trying to take over the world.

>>2808481
>>2808476
>>2808692

>>2808462
Why do you keep making these threads?

2 goes before 3 either way.

Not a lot of people really see it as a big thing, but M3 has some callbacks to M2 that are viewed as a sort of "take that audience!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgSn0SbQJQI

>>2808462
Mother as a series, on approach, is basically whatever you want it to be. It's easy to throw yourself into Mother 3 and just treat it as a quirky RPG, but there's going to be a bunch of things that will fly over your head as a result of skipping the others.

Anyway, it's doubtful you can stomach a game like Mother. It's slow, it's paced kinda poorly, and it requires a lot of grinding. Future iterations of the game (like the Mother 1+2 version) fix some of the issues with the original game to make it an easier pill to swallow, but frankly, there's an easier way to play Mother 1.. and that's to play Mother 2.

There are tons of folks who will argue that Mother 1 and Mother 2 are completely separate games, but honestly, except for a few plot points and locations, the two games are essentially one and the same. You'll acquire an appreciation for Mother 3 by playing Mother 2 first, then transitioning smoothly into Mother 3.

Most of the plot points in 2 have some impact on 3, as well.

tl;dr: Mother 2 -> Mother 3, ignore Mother 1

>>2809059
Not him, but..

>Please explain to me how are Mother 2 and Mother 3 more related than Mother 1 and Mother 2.
You said it yourself. 2 and 3 are strongly connected by their antagonists. Some loose associations, like seashell homes, are cute little references to 1, but not exactly such an earth shattering revelation as to require slogging through a sorely outdated RPG just to catch a few tiny little nods to it.

>you won't get who the final boss is
Speaking as someone who played 2 before playing 1, who the final boss was was mostly inconsequential, because the final boss is essentially vanquished. At that point, it's basically a given that Porky was the game's manipulator and general antagonist all along. I mean, I'm going to assume you're not completely retarded and have actually played Mother 2. There's nowhere in Porky's dialogue throughout the entire game that says he was manipulated. Porky is clearly the manipulator and opportunist, and he takes over the role of primary antagonist, because he stymies the progress of the protagonists on MULTIPLE occasions, about as many times, if not more so, than Giygas.

In short, Giygas as an antagonist might have been an important aspect when considering which games to tackle in what order if Itoi had gone through with his original idea of having Giygas be a driving force in Mother 3. Since this never happened, this puts the spotlight on Porky instead, even in Mother 2. Knowing who Giygas is and his background becomes unimportant because his role as antagonist in Mother 2 is only in name. He's meant to distract you from the real antagonist (that being, of course, Porky).

>What's your evidence?
Porky actually gets character development. Some of it is subtle, and you have to pick up on it, but all the pieces of the puzzle is there.

Giygas does not. Even in Mother 1, Giygas gets very little character development. He's simply an antagonist at the end of an RPG you fight to see the ending.

no

1 has very little connection to anything

3 has some recurring stuff from 2 but you can play it without

>>2812060
>2 and 3 are strongly connected by their antagonists

So just like Mother 1 and 2 are. Mother 2's subtitle is even "GYIYG STRIKES BACK!"

>Some loose associations, like seashell homes, are cute little references to 1, but not exactly such an earth shattering revelation as to require slogging through a sorely outdated RPG just to catch a few tiny little nods to it.

Yeah, same about Mother 2 and 3. The "best friend's yo-yo" is a cute little reference, but you can still play Mother 3 stand alone. It's just a better experience if you've played 2 first (and same about EarthBound, you can play it stand alone, but it's better if you've played 1 first)

>outdated RPG

Why are you on /vr/?

>Speaking as someone who played 2 before playing 1, who the final boss was was mostly inconsequential

Of course I have played Mother 2. I played the series in order.
Here's the thing, when you first faced Gyiyg, your reaction was probably "oh wow it's just some evil thing, let's kill it". When I reached him, what I saw was Mother 1's antagonist, turned into complete decadence. I'm pretty sure my appreciation for the whole final battle sequence was different than yours.

Have you actually played Mother 1? You said it was "dated", so I assume you may have not played the game to completion. Gyiyg does have character development, he has quite a lot of dialogue on the final battle, it's the most serious moment in the game, and also his characters develops through Maria, when she explains her relation with Gyiyg.

Porky doesn't really have any character development on Mother 3. The pigmask army has nothing to do with anything on Mother 2, and if you didn't play Mother 2 first, Porky is just some madman time traveller fuck. Basically how you think Gyiyg in Mother 2 is just some embodiment of evil monster. And I'll remind you porky isn't even the final boss on Mother 3 either.

>>2812008
>There are tons of folks who will argue that Mother 1 and Mother 2 are completely separate games

Nobody needs to argue that, because they are separate games.

>except for a few plot points and locations

A few plot points? Where are Maria and George on Mother 2? The locations are all completely different too, in Mother 2 you're travelling all around the world, from Eageland to Ramma, Mother 1 is all in rural America, and it culminates on Holy Loly Mountain/Mt. Itoi with Gyiyg's mothership. It's fundamentally a different game, it only shares some key design elements which are the same such as "collect 8 pieces of music", but that's also fundamentally different. On Mother 1, you're looking for music so you can sing to Gyiyg, you're recollecting a song that Gyiyg heard when he was a baby.
In Mother 2 you're collecting music that for some reason makes Ness awaken his mind to get to his own magicant (different from Mother 1's magicant, which isn't Ninten's inner world, but his grandmother's).

Sometimes I wonder if people who say "skip mother 1" have actually at least read about Mother 1. It just seems you guys think it really is a "mother 2 demake" as someone else said, which is just wrong.

>>2808462
I would recommend playing Undertale by Toby Fox. It surpassed "classic" (that is: utter shit) RPGs in every way.

>>2812183

Toby Fox? sounds like a pornstar name. Does she do anal?

>>2808462
Play mother 2. If you want moar, then play 3. If you became a mother fan, you SHOULD DEFINELY play mother 1 (which its not obligatory for playin it, just for the sake of the love to the franchise)

>>2808462

I've played all 3 and I'd only recommend that you bother with Earthbound.

>>2812151
>Here's the thing, when you first faced Gyiyg, your reaction was probably "oh wow it's just some evil thing, let's kill it". When I reached him, what I saw was Mother 1's antagonist, turned into complete decadence. I'm pretty sure my appreciation for the whole final battle sequence was different than yours.

That was pretentious as fuck and borderline autistic.

>>2812663
y u mad bro

>>2812663

Really? it wasn't my intention to come off as pretentious. Feel free to elaborate. I'm just discussing the games and why I think playing the games in order makes the whole experience different than playing them stand alone.

The poster I was replying to argued that there was no connections between M1 and 2, but there are between M2 and 3 because Porky had character development.
I'm arguing that yes, M1 and 2 also have connections and Gyiyg had character development, but if you don't play M1, then Gyiyg in M2 is just some "embodiment of evil" villian without backstory and that's it.
Same about Porky on Mother 3, if you never played M2, then Porky (who only appears at the very end of the game) is just some madman time traveller and that's it.