/vr/ - Retro Games

It didn't.

>balance

You don't care about that shit when you're a kid.

>>2802047
I mean now. Like, if I bought this game on the 3ds, and I wasn't planning on any tournament play, would the balancing make my enjoyment of this game any worse?

>>2802036
outside of ghastly and the bunch being fucked over I didn't see a problem
I think even if you were to update the games AGAIN they still wouldn't be balanced

>>2802036
The main story of a vanilla Pokemon game. You should be able to effortlessly steamroll everything in sight regardless.

Outside of Psychic being absurdly OP, it really didn't.

>>2802036

Grass types are no longer useless so there`s that and every pokemon isn`t garbage.

I seriously can`t stand playing Fire Red and Leaf Green because the same pokemon I used in the originals are nerfed to hell and back.

>>2802036
It doesn't really, balance doesn't change the flow of the game at all; if you play through the game normally without any outside information almost any team comp will get you through the game. Competitive is a joke, of course, but that's not the focus of the main game.

>>2802036
it doesnt. it didnt,
/autist-thread

>>2802061
No.

>>2802047
Actually I did. Because I didn't like psychic types, I wanted to use literally anything else but they all got hosed.

>>2802238

Grass types are based as fuck in the originals, with sleep powder, giga drain and leech seed alone you`ll beat the shit out of everything. I managed to beat the Elite Four with pokemon who were a couple of levels below the other teams. The last battle was epic as fuck with just my Venusaur VS Charizard, both were out of moves and used struggle against each other. I eventually won thanks to leech seed.

>>2802036
It doesn't. The games were incredible for the time and I had a lot of fun with them.

But that doesn't mean that they aren't totally outclassed by every sequel and that I'd be able to enjoy them now knowing the improvements I'm missing.

>>2802254
>Grass types are based as fuck in the originals,

>Every grass type except Tangela was half poison.
>in a game where Psychic types dominated.

lol, no. Giga Drain didn't even exist until Gen 2.

IMO the bigger problem is the poor move pools. It sucks when you can't use type match ups in a game about type match ups.

>How does the fucked up balancing make your personal experience playing these games any worse?
It doesn't/didn't. When I was a kid, I caught the pokemon that looked cool, though it didn't matter since I only used my starter. The rest of the team was just there in case I fucked up and Charizard fainted. Gen two was the same for me.
I didn't even consider balance or the meta of the game until a few years ago when I visited /vp/ and found out that apparently everyone hates r/b/y.

>>2802271
and there are barely any psychic type pokemon in the game. who cares

>>2802036
Dude only /vp/ has a problem with Gen 1 pokemon. We like it fine here at /vr/

>>2802380
>we
?????????????????

>>2802386
Fuck off /vp/

>>2802238

what the hell is wrong with you

>didn't like psychic types

Alakazam (or Kadabra) was - and still is - the greatest pokemon ever. Even better than Gyarados.
>Psychic
>Increase PP a few times
>Destroy

>>2802315
>get caught making shit up
>w-w-who cares

First gen is horribly balanced compared to how it is now, and even back then it was bad. Putting any pokemon to sleep essentially crippled them for the rest of the battle, certain pokemon like Tauros and Starmie were way better than everything else, and Chansey walls every special attacker in the game.

>>2802630

>Tauros
>Starmie
>"way better than everything else"

You just went full retard

Who cares if it's not "balanced"? It's fun as fuck. If some Pokemon or Pokemon types are better than others, so what? In real life, should a pigeon beat a lion in a fight?

>>2802634
Tauros was literally one of the best Pokemon in the game.

>>2802638

What is wrong with you.

>Normal pokemon
>No good moves
>TM moves are meh
>Nothing special at all about it

>>2802647

wtf

Normal pokemon have no weakness. You can give Tauros Bodyslam and Hyperbeam, both STAB. And he is fast. lrn2pokemon

>>2802647
You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Tauros was one of the most powerful Pokémon in gen I, outside of Mewtwo. It dominated the tournaments next to powerhouses like Articuno (strongest Blizzard in the game), Starmie (Recover, Blizzard, Thunderbolt, Thunder Wave, Surf, Psychic...), Chansey (due to the Special stat it has 105 SpA AND 105 SpD, as well as 250 base HP) and Snorlax.

-Huge Attack stat
-STAB on Normal-type attacks like Hyper Beam (physical in gen I-III) which are resisted by only a handful of Pokémon
-Hyper Beam has no recharge period if you kill something with it
-High enough speed stat to guarantee regular crits
-Can learn Earthquake for Rock types
-People even ran Blizzard on it because it hardly even needed a fourth move.

>>2802710
They're weak to Fighting though. But in gen I this wasn't really an issue since the only Fighting moves with >70 base power were Submission, Jump Kick and High Jump Kick. The latter two were exclusive to Hitmonlee, and Submision had only 80 percent accuracy as well as recoil.

>>2802634

As the people above me explained, it's clear you never played those games since you didn't even know about how much of rape machine Tauros was or giga drain. Anyone who played them would know that.

>>2802287
Imagine today if you had a pokemon that didn't even get a stab attack for one of its typings, or having only 1 attack for 29 levels.

>>2802730

1. I wasn't the giga drain guy

2. I'm talking about actually playing with; not fighting other giga nerds in tournaments. Are you the kind of guy who points out equipment episodes in 50-year-old episodes of star trek, and catches grammatical errors by the klingons? I like playing pokemon (for this thing called "fun",) and you people are way too obsessed...

>>2802061
no

>>>/vp/
it got a board for a reason
to keep the pokethreads out off all the other game related boards

i love this thread. it proves how diverse tastes and strategies are. its like in the anime where 're like why the fck would anyone catch a pidgeon or safcon. but they have a a plan. same here. people chose taurus or grass pokemon and succeded. this proves to me that anyone who has faith can become a pokemon master

>>2802738
"tauros isn't good"
"but it is, and here's why..."
"lol get a life nerd"

You're on a board for nerds. If you go to a Star Trek board and spout incorrect things you're also going to get called out on it.

>>2802745

That board exists because people were making multiple pokemon generals all the time even after a video game general board was created.. Having one thread about a retro pokemon game is not against the rules.

>>2802773

>this post

I envy your naivete

>>2802036
I'm not autistic.

I play Blue Version, and Silver and thats -it- in terms of Pokemon. I have Yellow but I've never touched it.

I don't "get" the hype. It was big when we were in like 4th grade but after that I stopped giving a shit.

>>2802036
>>2802061
If you're that worried about it just play one of the many rom hacks that fixes the balancing and adds stuff like new sprites, colour, all Pokemon ect ect.

Plus it's free!

>>2802798

Speaking of Tauros, is it the hardest Pokemon to get in the whole game?

I remember spending whole nights on the safari zone trying to catch him, one night I did, and it was thanks to me that my friends could complete their pokedex as they were missing Tauros.

I'm talking about Red and Blue only, I think he was easier to catch in Yellow when it came out.

>>2802945
>rom hacks
>playing with borders on a handheld
that's fucked up mate

>>2802952
then play without the borders and play the original rom. Point still stands.

>>2802952
The borders are neato.

>>2802957
i think borders are stupid on hanheld since screen is small,its not intended to look that way on handheld. this is only for big TVs: but enjoy playing the game on a even more tinier screen with the borders.

>>2802957
>>2802964
it's just that he has the small 3ds and can't do proper scaling so he plays 1:1 scale with borders to compensate

>>2802964
It's 1:1. Making it full screen will stretch the image making it look like ass. Tho each to their own I guess. You can turn them off.

>even more tinier screen with borders
Thanks, I will.

>>2802950

I replayed the games recently and yeah, he was definitely the hardest to get.

Fucker runs every time you see him. Then it takes 20 minutes just to encounter him again.

>>2802967
>small 3ds
Both Small and XL 3DS have the exact same number pixels. the XL is just bigger making the pixels bigger.

>>2802964
>it's not intended to look that way on handheld
You clearly don't understand resolutions.

>>2802972
you're noob if you think a handheld has the same dpi as a tv

>>2802970
yeah so you can play it 1:1 on new xl without it being to small like on the small 3ds. also legit for ds games

>>2802986
>new xl
again
Both NEW 3ds and XL share the same.

Both OLD 3ds small and XL share the same.

>>2802983
You cannot be this retarded.

>>2802992
yes you illiterate but the new xl has bigger pixels as stated before so the the 1:1 render is big enough, as on small 3ds the 1:1 render is too small

>>2802996
keep lying to yourself if you think a handheld needs borders. the truth is the 3ds has just shitty fullscreen upscale and is too small for 2:1 render

>>2802992
The N3DS has more PPI than the N3DSXl

>>2803000
Like i said before. >>2802972
>You clearly don't understand resolutions.

>>2803003
yes but the tv has less so you need borders you noob, you dont need borders on a small 3ds as dpi is the highest. its just that is has shitty fullscreen upcale.
>you clearly are lacking intelligence

>>2803006
So to get a nice crisp looking screen you do what?!...

Thats right 1:1! the border is there just for...?

>>2803000
>not playing VC gameboy with the included filter

Doing it wrong

>>2803015
ew

>>2803015
Does it have that neat 3D effect the GBC games have?

>>2803018
You mean, "I've never tried it and my bias can't let me move past it"

>>2803020
Yes! I can't play without it.

>>2803023
No, I do it differently and superior.

>>2803026
by stretching the image?

>>2803026
>I don't understand what pixel density is

I assume you don't like scanlines either

>>2803027
No, I will show you.

>>2803006
You're being ironic right?

>>2803037
With your not-image? Couldn't you have waited until you were ready to show us?

>>2803053
He's probably fumbling around grabbing his gamecube to show us how his portable games look better on his LCD tv with borders.

>>2802036
It doesn't, because playing pokémon competitively is for sperglords

Exhibit A: SMOGON

>>2803058
And he's probably going to stick with the whole "borders are for televisions" without understanding why the border is there in the first place or expanding his argument whatsoever on that note

>>2803074
>Exhibit A: SMOGON
Google it. Find youtube channel.
How horrifying.

>>2802950
Not the hardest, but it depends on how lucky you are. I personally had more trouble with Chansey and Scyther. But they all have pretty low catch rates, only difference is that Tauros is more common than Chansey at least, and i thas a higher catch rate.

Dratini is also difficult to catch but at least you don't have to waste steps while fishing for it.

>>2802061
Nope you're all good. It's really only badly unbalanced for vs battles, the regular game is easy meaning you can really experiment with your team and beat it pretty much any way you want.

If you have fun be sure to check out G/S/C as well, that's where the series really got good in my opinion.

>>2802061
Not really.

>>2802298
>apparently everyone hates r/b/y.
People just hate genwunners.

>>2803092
>in my opinion

Sales numbers don't lie

>>2802380
>>2802389
Not everyone on /vp/ is a tourneyfag.

There isn't really very much wrong with gen 1 outside of balance being off the walls but that really doesn't matter because who the fuck plays Pokémon competitively? It's like when dumbshits try to make up meta rules to balance Smash for competitive play, it's not balanced because it's not meant to be and it's a futile effort to try.

What people on /vp/ hate is genwunners, people who are literally incapable of moving past gen 1 Pokémon and shits ceaselessly on following gens because "not muh childhood", they're kind of like Ataridads on here who want gen 5 and even gen 4 consoles removed from the board because they want it to be their own circlejerk.

>>2802968
>playing dx
enjoy reading the nut/power piece flavor text. i hope it's worth 1/4 of a dungeon.
those pics were pretty boss though

>>2803110
Random question. Are you from Liverpool?

>>2803116
nope. the closest i've ever been to liverpool would be liverpool, ny.

>>2803097
Oookay? I've never even bothered to look at the sales numbers to compare the games so I don't even know what point you're making.

>>2803128
Oh sorry, that was a little weird to say wasn't it? I sort of assumed you saw the new nintendo direct (which is where I heard this statistic iirc)

Gen 2 sold twice as much as Gen 1, so I meant to imply how that's a very popular opinion.

I mean, it is, right?

>>2803108
>>2803108
What is /vp's opinion of the new games? I'm not sure if it's just because I burnt out of the formula playing them for so long, but I couldn't really get into Black 1 or 2 and the Mega Evolution thing seemed like a really weird and bad idea. Are they still considered good?

>>2803145
>I mean, it is, right?
From my anecdotal experience it sure was. Gen 1 was still a little obscure at least with people my age at the time, which was early 20's. But when Gold and Silver came out it exploded. There was a point where it seemed like every other person at college was playing it and the cafeteria was always filled with people trading and battling, it was pretty crazy.

That was also when IVs and EVs were just being discovered and sussed out and breeding was becoming a huge thing.

>>2803147
I have friends and family that like them, though the motto "gotta catch 'em all" is much more daunting now. That's the only real complaint I have, I like the older gens because there'e not just under 1000 pokemon to find not including shinies, of course

>>2803157
Well, that does seem to coincide with the "twice as many sold" statistic, so I don't doubt it.

>>2803147
/vp/ hates gen VI because it felt like a rushed cash grab that particularly panders to "genwunners" (you get gen I starters for free in XY for example).

Gen V (BW and B2W2) were good, though, although I can understand getting burned out on the formula. For anyone who hasn't played Pokémon in a while and wants to get back into it, or for people who still enjoy the formula, gen V is the best gen. It was probably also the last good generation, since now they're starting to delve into the smartphone markets not just with their spinoff games like Pokémon Shuffle, but also by 'casualizing' their main games even further.

>>2803157
Not to nitpick but IVs and EVs weren't present in gen I or II, although they did feature similar systems. But they were even more obtuse than they are now, I can't imagine people sperging out -that- much over them in competitions. At least, not where I live, it might've varied.

>>2802315
>barely any psychic type

1st gen Alakazam and Slowbro are MORE than enough

Paras was bug/grass type, not poison, so it wasn't weak against psychics, yet it could learn at least one bug type attack, leech life. I remember having a Paras/Parasect which was my go-to guy for psychics. I know since Paras isn't the toughest pokemon nor leech life a very hard attack, but it just felt really good to be fighting a psychic and get the "it's super effective" message. I bet few of you guys managed that in gen 1

>>2803053
>>2803058
>>2803076
hey sorry guys, it took me a bit to install the screenshot plugin on my psp.
Here you can see all the modes of Masterboy on PSP. There is also a 1.5x scale mode which I forgot. This is Pokémon Blue on Super Gameboy. Obviously the 2x scale mode is the most superior one, but it cuts of a bit of the image, which is relevant/irelevant depending on the game. In Pokémon it's hindersome to play with cut off screen. The mode I like the best is the fit + smooth mode. It actually still looks really crisp and smooth and not blurry at all when playing, as you have a certain viewing distance to the handheld screen. I'm not a fan of fit without smooth as it messes up a bit of the aliasing, which smooth hides. 1.5x scale mode is decent. In my opinion this fit+smooth mode or the 2x scale mode is superior to the 1x scale mode or strech mode on the small 3ds.
Now, I don't know about the New 3ds XL but I guess there, the 1x scale mode must look pretty good and big enough as the screen is big enough. The ds games look @1x scale big enough as well on the New 3ds XL.

>>2803278
>he spent 2 hours making OC when he could have just said "masterboy"

Pfffhahaha

I fucking OWN a pspgo.

And guess what? I play on 1x.

Because I know what pixel density is.

You fucking sperglord.

>No, I do it differently and superior.
So you did stretch the image then add a smooth filter.
So basically you felt your opinion was better than the other anons?

You do realise the GB games on the 3DS also have these options?
>Masterboy
Fucking hell..

>>2803296
mean for >>2803278

>>2803294
The guy is a retard. Still doesn't understand the subject.

>>2803278
>The mode I like the best is the fit + smooth mode. It actually still looks really crisp and smooth and not blurry at all when playing
this is incorrect. it looks like ass.

>>2803298
I'm actually astonished he spent so long making that, like he really tried his hardest but completely forgot what the argument was halfway though.

>crisp and smooth in the same sentence

>>2803296
I didn't stretch. I scaled. I thought 3ds stretches and does not scales propely, that is the problem. I didn't know you can do scale+smooth on 3ds.
Yes, I think my opinion is superior lol. But I can understand people who like to play pixel perfect, so they have to play 1x as 3ds has no 2x mode. I think if I were a pixel perfect guy I would play on 2x mode or on ganbatte for perfection. But I rather have a nice handheld experience so i play with fit+smooth. fit does not actually stretch.
>>2803302
No it doesn't. That's just your sperglord perception. As I stated with normal viewing distance it looks totally fine.

>>2803306
>>crisp and smooth in the same sentence
lol.

What i like best is this combo
>>2803026
>No, I do it differently and superior.
>>2803027
>by stretching the image?
I called it 2 hours ago.
>>2803037
>No, I will show you.

Goes ahead to stretch and smooth the image out.

>>2802061
No. If anything knowing what you know now you could create more enjoyment by trying new things that didn't occur to the child you.

>>2803309
>fit does not actually stretch.
it cuts out lines of pixels. hence you're missing part of the image. Clearly visible in your previous image.

You're a fucking moron.

>>2803310
you are forgetting that the 2x scale mode is still superior despite all this, when you can live with a bit of cropping (which i cant).

In the end both psp and 3ds suck when it comes to pixel perfection at decent sizes. Only ganbatte provides.

>>2803316
cutting out lines is not strechting either lmao

>>2803318
You have no idea what you're talking about. Please stop.

>lmao

Bug and Ghost pokemon are absolute trash

>>2803320
top kek

>>2803317
>PIXEL PERFECTION
>DECENT SIZES

>WHAT IS PIXEL DENSITY

FUKKEN WOW

>>2803325
ew, you're a 1:1 mode fan on psp and 3ds, you should actually play on actual hardware than if you don't even appreciate ganbatte.

>>2803325
im convinced he's a retard

>>2803327
I'm just not an autist who plays on a tiny screen for 1:1 perfection. I'm a different kind of autist.

>>2803326
>>2803330
Newsflash: portable consoles have small screens. Modern portables have a higher pixel density.

What are you even trying to argue here? That the upscaling doesn't look good on the 3ds?

Gee I fucking wonder why!

>>2803340
Exactly, neither does it on PSP. Both fit+smooth modes are fine. 1x scale modes suck, except on new 3ds xl. 2xscale mode on psp is a nice compromise. superior are just handhelds with higher resolution like those special emulation gaming devices, or even smartphones or tablets. on desktops ganbatte.

>>2803345
Wow, I'm starting to think you're legitimately autistic.

>superior are just handhelds with higher resolution

AND you don't know what you're talking about!

>>2803345
jesus christ. just stop. Your whole argument is basically
>my opinion is better herrrrr

>>2803349
But it's true, you idiot.
Handhels with higher resolution
can do 2x pixel perfect scaling or even 3x or 4x times. psp and 3ds are foundering @2x scaling.

>>2803353
https://youtu.be/qXr5jn3haRo?t=337

>>2803353
Ironic you calling others an idiot.
You literally are talking shit at this point you fucking mongoloid.

>>2803360
You're a troll.

>>2803187
I don't know if the systems changed, but Gen2 was definitely where I came to know the terms EV and IV and the basic mechanics of how you level your stats and breed for better ones was being figured out at the time.

>>2803361
You don't understand what people are saying so you think they're trolling. Fact is you're fucking stupid and don't understand.

>>2803353
>2x pixel perfect scaling
>2x pixel perfect scaling
>2x pixel perfect scaling
>2x pixel perfect scaling
This pretty much sums up everything wrong with your logic

>>2803364
You literally said that stating that handhelds with higher resolution displays and integer scaling are superior is shit talking.
When you have a 1080p handheld of course it's fucking superior at scaling to bigger sizes than a 3ds or psp because can't even manage 2x integer scaling.
How stomped on your head that you can't understand this?

>>2803364
As a third party, I can barely tell what either of you are going on about. Why do any of you care what resolution some stranger plays his handheld games at?

>>2803367
You are right. I admit that statement is flawed. 4x integer scaling is pixel perfect scaling. You got me there. But I still consider 2x scaling a nice feature on psp. It would also look amazing on the 3ds. 2x is still superior than smoothing and fit. that is what i wanted to say. 4x scaling is pixel perfect

>>2803369
You're stupid.

>>2803371
Have a read back. The moron threw a hissy fit because some people prefer to play games with 1:1.

>>2803380
You too.

>>2803369
>>2803376
>4x scaling is pixel perfect

>I don't know what scaling is or how it works! Yeah math!

>>2803371
This started with buddy claiming that borders on an emulated game is stupid because it makes the screen smaller.

He fails to understand how a higher resolution inherently makes pixel-perfect emulation impossible without the tiny screen.

>>2803380
>Have a read back. The moron threw a hissy fit because some people prefer to play games with 1:1.

While that is pretty retarded, it's still shitted up the thread. Whatever though, par for the course here.

>>2802945
>>2802952
The moment a autistic child was triggered.
>>2802968
Man that GBA looks nice.

>>2803384
>4x integer scaling isn't pixel perfect

>>2803384
>He fails to understand how a higher resolution inherently makes pixel-perfect emulation impossible without the tiny screen.

I don't think anyone actually doesn't understand that, they're just saying it doesn't bother them and they prefer it anyways.

For a board so fond of CRTs you'd think people would care a lot less about pixel perfect anything. Any way you slice it, caring about someone else's visual choice is mega lame.

>>2803385
Yeah sorry about that, I'll claim responsibility. It's one thing when one guy is posting off topic, but it really starts to devolve once another guy jumps in.

I didn't really see the conversation going anywhere anyhow, nor did I think it would get this heated.

>>2803387
>"nuh-uh"
That's you. That's how dumb you sound.

>>2803390
He's literally saying that scaling is pixel perfect. If you need a filter to not make everything look retarded and wonky, it's not.

And what about the whole "LCD" jazz then? I don't care if you do play on one, just don't claim it's "pixel perfect". It's going to be slightly askew one way or the other.

>>2803367
>>2803384
say again?
Integer scaling is without a filter and pixel perfect you dumbass.
Now shut up.

>>2803398
Good point in that there's not a lot of real conversation going on.

>>2803405
"Integer scaling is without a filter and pixel perfect you dumbass.
Now shut up."
this was directed @ >>2803398

>>2803398
All I'm really saying is the only way you ever see something as legitimately "pixel perfect" is when you're playing a physical handheld and the games designed for it because the screen they were designed for is part of the system.

Any time you display anything on any kind of screen it's going to be skewed in some way. Distorted by CRT technology or LCD upscaling or whatever. More importantly I agree that who cares either way what someone else does anyway?

>>2803417
If you play on LCD LED or whatever in native resolution with integer scaling there is no upscaling or distortion. Its pixel perfect. The only imperfection is the inaccurancy of the emulator itself.

>>2803425
*native resolution of the display

>>2803405
Okay okay, I got a little excited. I was conflating "pixel perfect" with "original resolution". Yeah, retarded, I know.

>>2803417
This was what I was originally trying to say. Using a border for "pixel perfect" recreation in emulators is, in my opinion, the only way to play them.

Because higher resolutions make for blockier graphics. These old consoles didn't have massive screens, and that's why filters exist, to soften the edges a little.

And claiming that upscaling them (even with integer scaling) makes it look better makes me think you're a fucking retard.

Sue me.

>>2803441
>And claiming that upscaling them (even with integer scaling) makes it look better makes me think you're a fucking retard.

Now I'm starting to agree with the other guy a little. It's all cool if you prefer it not that way, but I actually like the way games look when they're upscaled but the pixels are kept sharp and I take exception to being called a retard because of that choice.

I still don't get why anyone cares how someone who isn't them wants to display their games.

Jesus pig-fucking Christ you're autistic, /vr/.

>>2803447
I should have expanded, "on portables".

Why do you think a good number of us are elitist about using CRTs? If you like massive, sharp, blocky sprites I can't convince you otherwise, but I can only stomach that if it in a portable aspect ratio.

>>2803452
Indeed.

>>2803447
Don't worry you're not a retard. Everyone here on /vr/ either likes integer scaling when it comes to emulation bit the majority prefers real hardware +crt. I never heard anyone complain about integer scaling. People who dislike integer scaling shouldn't even touch emulators desu and just stick to the real hardware.

>>2803456
That's fair, I feel completely the opposite. I honestly can't understand why anyone likes the look of a CRT screen. I think they're the ugliest displays anywhere and virtually every game looks magnitudes better on an HD screen.

That's just me though, and I've no interest in trying to convince you or anyone else that they shouldn't like what they do. Neither of us understands the other's preference so all there is to do is accept that we're different.

>>2803456
But you are forgetting in your argumentation that even on handhelds, emulated game boy games are in most cases smaller when displayed @ 1:1 ratio than on the actual hardware. It may appear sharper that way, but that's not even how it looked on the real hardware,just saying.

>>2803468
I like both ^^°

>>2803473
And I like you. :)

>>2803472
Sweet, one more for the road.

It's called pixel density you retarded asshole. Google it like I googled "pixel perfect".

The sharpness is the whole point.

And in case you couldn't tell, I'm gonna be playing gen1 VC with the original aspect ratio

>>2802061
no

you'd still find a water type with surf is able to defeat 3 of the elite 4

>>2803484
>3 of the elite 4
>3

We got a casual over here guys!

>>2803481
>And in case you couldn't tell, I'm gonna be playing gen1 VC with the original aspect ratio
you absolute madman

>>2803481
I know what it is jeez, but that's insane,making it smaller than the actual hardware for a higher pixel density. Pixel density on handhelds and smartphone does make sense only to a certain as the display is generally small. You know like a 4k screen on phone. Would you still play @1:1 if the 3ds had a resolution of 4k? I don't think so. It's not about that. It's about making it pleasing to eye or about the size of the original hardware. now if the smaller size is more pleasing to eye, that is totally okay, that is your preference.

excuse my grammar please

>>2803494
>that is totally okay, that is your preference.
not the people you're arguing with but wasn't this whole bitch fight started because you bitched at people playing 1:1?

Kinda conflicting little shit you're huh

>>2803497
no this conflict was in the end more about him denying integer scaling being pixel perfect which got me triggered smellody tier

>>2803494
If the 3ds had a 4k resolution I could probably do 2x interger scaling without noticing much of a difference. You gotta remember, the gameboy had a resolution of 160x144, and 4k is, well... 4k. I would also never emulate portables on a 4k screen.

>>2803497
zing

>>2803497
you call people changing for the better, which is human, conflicting?
the devil you are eh?

>>2803502
but it originally started because you bitched about someone playing at 1:! right?

>>2803502
No, it really wasn't. I mean, I did say that, but it wasn't my intention.

>I was conflating "pixel perfect" with "original resolution". Yeah, retarded, I know.

>>2803506

>>2803506
yes I fucking hate people playing with borders I'm handhelds. That's a dogma rule violation.
Borders are for tvs. you can't put borders on handhelds. I'm honestly triggered by this. Sorry.

>>2803508
Get over it faggot. You've made yourself look like a massive faggot in this thread. Well done.

>>2803508
Oh jesus here we go again

Borders are for maintaining the original aspect ratio. If that bothers you then you can go fuck yourself.

I'm leaving before this thing derails again.

>>2803509
Do you think I care lmao. I run by my dogma and you won't stop me. Besides I said sorry and that it's okay if you prefer it that way so there is nothing to get over for me desu.

>>2803508
so with all this you still have no fucking idea.. wow .

>>2803520
it's my dogma. borders only on tv! =dogma

>>2803521
>Im a retard. Its my dogma. Retard! =dogma

>>2803503
>If the 3ds had a 4k resolution I could probably do 2x interger scaling without noticing much of a difference
TOP-KEK

sorry i had to recreate this for illustrative purposes

>>2803525
yes, it's my dogma, stay away from it.

>>2803527
Yes, that's very observant of you.

>I would also never emulate portables on a 4k screen.

>>2803529
>dogma

You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means

>>2803508
Why do you care how someone you will never even meet wants to display their games?

Are you seriously upset by that in any way at all? Because if you are, you honestly probably have mental problems and some kind of cognitive disorder.

>>2803536
it means that. ever heard of the dogma 95, lars von trier uses in his old movies? i have a similar dogma for playing games. now stop trying to be a smartass.

>>2803527
updated v.1.0.2

>>2803540
>muh pixel density

Another thread I see shit up by emulation shitposters.

Don't you people have a general on /vr/ AND /vg/? Can't you take it there?

>>2803540
looks good. nice 1:1. needs a border tho faggot.,

>>2803539

Lookie what I found

>>2803019

>>2803543
Oh right, I forgot. Sorry.
Super Gameboy Border or 4K Border?

(btw this is not 1:1, it's fucking 2x integer scaling as requested)

>>2803547
that's not even me. Lol you act like I'm the only person with a psp on /vr/. try again

>>2803547
yes, my dogma is incontrovertibly true to me. i told you before-

>>2803548
Except it wasn't requested. I was joking you dingus.

>>2803553
I know. I even said I owned one.

Fuck, whatever.

>>2803556
To you.

>>2803560
oh so you are the other psp owner that always posts that pic of the dolphin? i actually love your posts lol, i always laugh when i see that pic because its always the same .
although i disagree with you. my dogma states handheld games on handhelds. and console games on the big screen, so i dont really play snes or nes on psp.

yes to me. i never claimed something else.

>>2803542

Don't blame us, fuckhead. I see CRTfags and hardwaremongs do far more damage per-topic.

>>2803568
true.

>>2803564
No, but now you know what I meant by "lookie what I found".

Also, in case you couldn't tell, I don't actually care what your dogmas are.

>>2803147
It's ok.
A lot of people found ORAS lacking.
I personally think they should slow down the introduction of new species and shit, it's getting to be a taller and taller order to catch them all.

The girls get cuter with each generation too (though they've yet to top Roxie)

>>2803187
I thought X&Y was ok.

>EV
>IV
/vp/ spergs hard on this. I personally completely ignore those values because I don't think putting time into that will make my game more fun.

I'd rather have one Misdreavus I level up and train as I go, petting her and playing games with her, than breeding like two boxes until I get the perfect one, which just kills immersion.
Or catching more, that's just frustrating, they were hard to catch in B/W.

>>2803278
>BLAUE EDITION

Wat

>>2803576
Blue

>>2802036
It makes the game more realistic. Just like real life, there are the ones that win and the others that just suck and should be completely forgotten as they vanish in their own miserable shadows.

>>2803323
You take that back!

I just wanna add that I also made a mistake before someone come nit-picking. I said integer scaling 2x is pixel perfect and anon-san said it isn't because he confused the meaning of pixel perfect. This made me insecure and I misunderstood at thought I made a mistake and confused the meaning of resolutionscaling: I was like oh no 2x scaling means every pixels twice when in fact it must be 4x. Thats why it said 4x scale is the pixel perfect scaling long, when it fact as all smart people know (excluding me) that resolution doubling means pixel quadrippling. Duh.
So we're even. We both made a mistake in the same instance.

>>2803680
>So we're even. We both made a mistake in the same instance.
nobody gives a shit you autistic cunt. just stop.

>>2803693
I mysel give a shit, that's all that matters. Keep talking if it satisfies you.

>>2803701
autism incarnate

>>2803680
Whatever. It wasn't a part of what I was originally commenting on.

Also I stopped caring hours ago.

>>2803592
Gotta agree with this though im mainly a steel/ground fan.

>this thread
autist red vs autist blue

>>2803769

Of course. Pokemon attracts autism. The phenomenon is similar to Earthbound and hipsters or Final Fantasy VII and edgelords.

The logic is undeniable.

>>2803787
>autism
>hipsters
>edgelords
buzzwords: the post

>>2803803

"Buzzword" is the new buzzword. :^)

>>2803607

>>2803568
I don't really give a shit who it is, and I don't care. I'm speaking on behalf of those of us who discuss video games.

>>2803817

You seem to a little bit of unwarranted self-importance there, paisano.

>>2803826
I agree with him. Display shitposters are the worst around here. People wanting to insist that whatever tv or monitor they use is the ONLY way and everything else is shit and needs to be trolled. Infects almost every single thread.

>>2803832

So your beef then _would_ in fact be with the CRTfags, not us poorfags/pirates who just want to kick back and have a good time with retroarch or openemu.

>>2803845
I am one of you in spirit, but people on both sides of the display debate will wind up and troll others and all it ever does is encourage someone on the other side to retaliate.

>>2803832
I agree. If I have to see one more faggot masturbating over his Sony PVM...

>>2803845
I don't think you understand. It's not about picking sides. I could give a fuck what's accurate or what looks better or whatever nonsense you're going on about. All of that is irrelevant as fuck when talking about gameplay.

Don't agree with him about trolling, though. That's just more shitposting. We need less.

>>2803857
memewhile I emulate on my Samsung 8K HDR OLED

>>2803857
>If I have to see one more faggot masturbating over his Sony PVM...

And that is why you are just as much of a problem as he is.

>>2803854
I think for many "shitposting=strong displays of opinion or method that are in contrast with my opinion or method." Regurgitate the same post with a more agreeable opinion and it is no longer shitposting.

>>2803864
Yeah but none of it should matter to anyone, because no one should really care at all how someone they don't even know wants to display their video games.

>>2803869
Exactly. Keep relevant display or gaming method discussion to their own respective threads and leave it at that.

All this because some autistic faggot hates borders on a handheld.

Wow..

So /vr/,which starter?

>>2803880
Charmander. What 10 year old boy could resist a fucking fire dragon.

>>2803880
wrong thread

>>2803876
This is autism. One autist to trigger them all.
Everyone on /vr/ is basically a based autist.

>>2803885
But anon, Dragonite was the dragon.

>>2803937
They were all dragons, ya dingus. Even Gyarados.

Source: Lance

>>2803947
He thinks birds are dragons.

>>2803970
>implying they aren't

>>2803973
Birds are dinosaurs

>>2803947
Actually, Lance was a Flying type trainer. Especially in gen II, where his whole team was part Flying but only half was part dragon.

Agatha was also a Poison trainer rather than a ghost trainer.

>>2802036

If you're not playing pokemon with some sort of challenge imposed or a rom hack, you're doing it wrong

>>2804184
you're ugly.

>>2803730
But the ghost pokémon are the cutest kind!

>>2803880
Totodile, because crodilians are cute and awesome!

>>2803970
>implying owls are birds

>>2802036
I think I wouldn't have had resorted to grinding the shit out of my Pidgeot if I had known it really was weak as shit. I thought I was bad at the game and I have shit taste in pokes, apparently.

>>2802036
The balance is not an issue at all. Pokemon balance doesn't matter for single player and competitive generation 1 pokemon is extremely fun even despite the poor "balance". If anything I find the limited pokemon selection makes the game more interesting.

The REAL problem with these games is the awful enemy movesets and terrible enemy AI. There's not even a semblance of challenge to be found and that makes the games a lot harder to enjoy.

>>2802630
I think he meant Mega Drain TM21 from beating Erika

>>2802254
>not using poison powder or toxic
I had a pincer where I poisoned things then binded them to death. It was great and pretty OP

>>2806527

Pidgeot is pretty based though, one of the strongest flying pokemans

>>2807292
Pidgeot was actually a very mediocre Flying-type, Anon.

>Dodrio
>Dragonite
>Charizard
>Gyarados
>the Legendary bird trio

Are all stronger than it.

Pidgeot might be on par or slightly better than Fearow, Golbat, Butterfree, and Scyther, but that's about it. Very middle of the road.

Am I the only weirdo that enjoyed the atmosphere and story of the games (gen. 1+2, anyway) more than sperging out over balancing issues?

>>2807357
No, that's the case for most people who played and enjoyed the games.

Pokemon as a game of "catch cool monsters and get badges" is much better than what balancefags make it out to be.

Internet subcultures like this one are the worst about this stuff.

>>2807351

in the context of the first game yeah. In other gens they introduced so many shitty flying pokemon that Pidgeot comes up above average.

>>2807284

too many pokemans are resistant to poisons, like a big chunk of dual typed grass, bug, ghost and poison themselves, which team rocket uses all the fucking time, just to troll you.

>>2807372
>In other gens they introduced so many shitty flying pokemon that Pidgeot comes up above average.

Base Pidgeot is still a lot worse than most flying types. Not including the ones I already listed (also I forgot Aerodactyl), and even excluding legendaries :

>Hawlucha
>Vivillon
>Talonflame
>Braviary
>Mandibuzz
>Archeops
>Sigilyph
>Rotom-Fan
>Gliscor
>Yanmega
>Staraptor
>Ninjask
>Swellow
>Skarmory
>Togekiss
>Crobat
>Xatu (Magic Bounce)
>Altaria
>Honchkrow
>Emolga

All blow it away. There's only a small handful of Flying types that Pidgeot trumps or is just on-par with.

>>2802047

i dont care about that shit now.

sperging out over balance is one of the cancers killing modern vidya. sometimes it just kills all flavor.

i mean cmon, some of the most fun parts of games like homm3 are when you first discover the unbalanced relics the game has to offer.

you can always strip them out later.

>>2807372
>Pidgeot comes up above average
Do you just not know anything about Pokemon or do you have some kind of reverse bird Stockholm syndrome

>>2807372
Smogon adds availability as a desirable trait, since you'll be rolling with a single poke far more time, and even they argue that Doduo - despite being available around midgame - is better.
Too bad, I love Pidgeot's design.

>>2807394

a lot of the pokemans you mentioned have some outstanding weaknesses and stats that are not far from Pidgeot or long or complicated leveling.

Pidgeot is usually available pretty early on and will help you with those pesky fighting, ghost, ground, bug and grass pokemans. Later in the game yeah it is outclassed

>>2807452
Not even that late, but yeah it's a useful butter knife. Not much more.
On the other hand, Fearow is stronger and early too.

>>2807403
no one cares about that shit. it's just that random sperg-dude who made that thread.

>>2807453

Fearow is ok I guess, but the move pool is pretty shitty and generally it`s more frail

>>2807468
You shouldn't be tanking with a Flying!

>>2802945
You're one of those boring kids who played red version.

>>2807601
>not having all 3 gen1 carts
Lol how fucking poor was your family holy shit. Fagget.

>>2807601
this is like the most irrelevant post i have seen on this website. as if anyone cares which edition you have.

In Pokemon Yellow should you use all the starters from R/B in your party?

>>2807652

Troll sighted.

>>2808089

nope, maybe charizard if you need a fire type and venasaur if you really want something that can sleep powder but you probley shouldn't have both and blastoise is outclassed by at least three pokemon straight up. (Slowbro, Starmie, Cloyster)

I guess I'm the only one who saw Yellow as an abortion of Red/Blue/Green to cash in on the fucking shitty anime.

>>2808124
No, while being able to get all the starters is nice, having to lug Pikachu around sucks, because It cant evolve, and there are better Electric types, and having to trade with both Red and Blue to complete the dex is a pain.

I know you can just box Pikachu and go on, but then you're missing out on most of the reason of playing Yellow.

Red is my Gen I game of choice.

>>2808120
no one fucking cares about stats. get that in your small skull. it's about owning cool pokémon, lilke the three starters at one.
my team for example consisted in the end only of the legendary pokémon of gen 1 and my starter

I didn't see the appeal back then as a teen and still don't. I tried Leaf Green a couple years ago and all I got was a boring as fuck game.

>>2802950
It was the last fucker I got to complete the dex. I traded my Vaporeon for it because I was unable to catch it.
Then the next month I bought yellow...