/vr/ - Retro Games

===NEWS===

[11-07] Hotline 666 progress video
https://youtu.be/KJhPWw5dDXY

[11-04] Games Done Quick speedruns announced:
Doom, Pirate Doom, Strife:VE, Quake, DescentII, [Wrack, Wolf:TOB]
>>2776705
https://gamesdonequick.com/submission/all

[11-04] Anon map release: tree_new.wad
>>2775935
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8xWmOI7IYl3aFNXZy1uS1FzNVE

[11-03] Anon map release: Steam Boat Impy
>>2775347
http://rghost.ru/7wDpXMY2X

[11-02] Anon map release: Devoured
>>2773942
http://www.mediafire.com/download/iq8y2bzujofv26d/Devoured.zip

[11-02] Retro Jam 4 - 8 Episode 4 themed maps (Quake)
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/retrojam4.html

[11-01] The /newstuff Chronicles #486
https://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4514

[10-31] Angry Anna's Halloween Quest, by the swan fox guy
https://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=6536

[10-29] Comfy Doom V2 released
>>2767105
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1517044

[10-28] SUAB v0.4a released
>>2764558
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=865999#p865999

[10-27] Quake Live final update is live.
http://steamcommunity.com/games/282440/announcements/detail/101688990770553028

[10-25] Anon map release: bland.wad
>>2758204
http://www.mediafire.com/download/glezdk2k2y5e02n/bland.wad

[10-22] BDv21 starter pack, all 150MB+ of it
http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=starterpacktestoct21.wad
http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=bdtest21octtestnew.pk3

[10-22] Doom 4 alpha footage (edited highlights, plus marketing drivel. skip to 0:59)
https://youtu.be/JTfe7V-_3r0?t=59s

[10-22] Anon map release: Iceplant2
>>2752451
https://www.mediafire.com/?zeri83o644zo2uz

[10-21] Quake Live beta goes public.
http://esreality.com/post/2778188/ql-steam-exclusive-beta-goes-public/

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CURRENTLY HOSTING UT99 AT 98.15.234.144

Hey /v/, since September 28th 2010, I've been hosting servers for UT99 and UT2004, and now I host Jedi Knight III: Jedi Academy with JK2 maps as well.
My User Name: InspecktahDeck - Steam Group Name: Speck's Unreal /V/idya. You don’t need the steam version to play, but having steam lets you receive announcements when we play. Discussion boards are now on the group page for users to discuss the games, servers, or suggest tweaks/changes, with some other fun stuff. If you have any problems joining, please post them in the thread, or steam group.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/specksunreal

>>2782632

This is all you need to get UT99 and UT2004 up-to-date from a fresh install. For UT99, just make sure you have the latest patch and bonus packs 3 and 4. For UT2004, install the Mega Bonus Pack.

UT99 Essential Files (Patches/Bonus Packs)
http://liandri.beyondunreal.com/Unreal_Tournament#Essential_Files
UT2004 Essential Files
http://liandri.beyondunreal.com/Unreal_Tournament_2004#Essential_Files

>>2782636

Tomorrow I'll be hosting UT2004 at 6PM EST.

>>2782632
gimme 15 minutes

>>2782639
I'm guessing you host in the US right? Just thinking about my ping.

>>2782641

I wasn't able to host for a week and a half due to work scheduling, so instead of the usual play counts of like 8-15 people we might get like four or five at the most tonight, but after I get back to hosting for a couple of days activity returns to normal. Sorry about that.

>>2782643

Yeah, East Coast US. We've got plenty of players from all over the globe though. Give it a shot.

>>2782632
Shit man, I'd join if I had any of the Unreal games. I'll definitely grab them during the Steam holiday sale.

>>2773942
devoured.wad fda 6:29
http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=ar77uv

this map is pretty good. it has an E2 base/hell theme. as a whole it is quite a maze, but each room is spacious, and far from blandly textured, and there are windows between areas which aren't directly linked. thus the maze feeling doesn't kick in much unless you, for example, reach a red door having seen but not picked up the key and then have to remember just where the heck you saw it, as i did.

since the author asked for nitpicking i will say that the marble on the upper back of line 721 did not go with the gstone next to it. more importantly i think this map needed a few secrets, it has none, yet the cluttered^Wvaried texturing suggests there are secret doors all over the place. i also think the blue key was disappointing; i've always found it unsatisfying to have a key open what amounts to a locked closet with another key in it. as you are limited to three keys per map, i think they should be more, i don't know, important somehow.

anyway, hope this helps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj3FjSmOwvk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSKKIHcQsvI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKihXaSj2w4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SUoC-7vry8


Here's some newer videos of us fucking around on the servers.

>>2782632
you could at least change the name of the board :-P

>>2782656

Hope you enjoy 'em, they're pretty cheap as of right now, and UT99 is very easy to find.


Again sorry to bait everyone with this when I knew it'd be a slow night since I hadn't thrown the server up in a week, but I figured a Saturday'd get more people than this.

>>2782662
About webm, I need to ask; what do you use to make these? Whenever I try a map I too record a webm of it but I end up with a video way too large, shortened to fit size or shitty quality.

>>2782649
will you be utilizing the ballistic weapons mod & custom skins in ut2k4?

>>2782682

Custom skins won't be hosted on the server nah, but if someone has one that you have, you can see them like always. Ballistic Weapons I was never really a fan of, but we used to host mods like Chaos and Jailbreak a couple times a month back in the early days of the group. I've considered bringing them back from time to time on scheduled mod nights.

If you wanted to make your own server with those, and a steam group for it, or hell, even host it in my group every once in a while, that'd be fine.

Just a side note for >>2782632


The UT99, UT2004, and JK3 servers have all stock maps and gametypes enabled and votable.

Custom skins are only seen if another player and you have the same ones, any skins you don't want to see or don't have won't be seen.

Custom maps are hosted as well - not a large amount, but some here and there. If they're not popular, they'll get cycled out but can be re-added if demand is high enough. For JK3, the only custom maps are from Jedi Knight 2.

>>2782671
in one line: engine plays demo and writes raw frame pixels to a pipe. other end of pipe goes into ffmpeg. sorry but it would take too long to write out all the details. :)

perhaps instead i could ask, what exactly is your trouble? getting video out of doom or getting ffmpeg to output something useful? from what you said you can already get video out of doom, you just need to tweak your encoding options?

>>2782649
I'm in Australia, I'd have 200 ping at least.

>>2782656
https://arrr.xyz/torrent/12197246/Unreal_Tournament_GOTY_[GOG]

>>2782719
i'm in argentina, let's be lagbros

>>2782719

We've got quite a few UKfriends, BR players, some guys from the Netherlands, etc. I'd definitely give it a shot. Strangely some of them have better ping than a couple of US players.

We did use to have Remco host in the UK for a while but he stopped due to personal stuff. He's still around but it's just me hosting now.

>>2782671
>>2782715 (me)
here's my last command line if it helps

ffmpeg -f rawvideo -pix_fmt bgra -s 320x240 -r 35 -i - -f webm -c:v vp8 -threads 3 -filter:v setpts=PTS/3.5 -r 20 -b:v 200k -fs 3144000 -y devoured-fda-629.webm

>-f rawvideo -pix_fmt bgra -s 320x240 -r 35 -i -
input video stream from engine, raw data

>-f webm -c:v vp8
ffmpeg seems to select vp9 if you don't say vp8.

>-filter:v setpts=PTS/3.5
this speeds the video up if it's over 2 minutes long

>-r 20 -b:v 200k
200kbps output, and i find reducing the output frame rate from 35 helps it compress better

>-fs 3144000 -y devoured-fda-629.webm
maximum file size just short of 3MiB, i want it to die if it goes over the file size rather than wasting time encoding more video. -y means overwrite without asking. finally, the output filename.

>>2782731
The encoding was my problem. And this helped me a lot, I still don't know much about these options but for now, I can get this to work using these lines as base and editing them a little depending on the source.

Thanks man, I didn't know exactly how to look for this.

>>2782632
Sweet, I've always had UT99 and UT2k4 via GOG but never really played'em online.

>>2782772

Cool, see you aboard!

By the way, everyone should check out these links here.

Unreal Tournament Tips/Tricks, History
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/specksunreal/discussions/3/558751364773536936/

Group Screenshots and Videos http://steamcommunity.com/groups/specksunreal/discussions/3/864980734907538346/

Model/Skin Suggestions Thread
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/specksunreal/discussions/6/558751813269549557/

Map Suggestions Thread
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/specksunreal/discussions/6/648814841742376768/


It's got screenshots/videos of us playing, and some downloads you might like. Such as a pack of all the Unreal player models for UT99, and the UT99 characters for UT2004.

>>2782632
UT doesn't load on my laptop, res is fucking up i think so it sits at precaching

>>2782803

I wish I actually knew shit about software to help with this. Have you tried changing what the rendering device is? That seems to fix most problems with the game.

>>2782807
Fixed it
But it takes forever to download whatever stuff the server has
Think I'll pass for now

>>2782810

>takes forever

That's strange. It should only take a second or two. Unless it's downloading the official bonus packs, but the custom stuff we have is very small.

Gonna pop out of the server for now, leaving it up all night for anyone who wants to play. Thanks for playing/joining everyone!

UT2004 tomorrow at 6PM EST, same time, more UT99 and JK later in the week!

>>2782812
I'm downloading the 4th bonus pack in UMOD form as we speak to see if that solves it.
What the hell do I do with the UMOD file?

>>2782816

Double click it and it should install in the same way that your game does. If it's not recognized by your computer, try reinstalling the game or getting a zip version of it somewhere.

>>2782820
Nigga the zip version just has the UMOD version inside of it
What kind of sick joke is this

>>2782842

Weird. It's not autoinstalling whe you double click it?

>>2782845
Nope. I'm going to try some registry fuckery or something to make it work.

>>2782869

Damn. I'm the least qualified person to run a group about old video games seeing as I have jack shit when it comes to computer/software knowledge but I think registry sorcery is a solution for people at times. I recall seeing something like that in some UT forums with instructions on how to fix it doing that.

>>2782871
Fixed it.
Ran method 2 of http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=970580
And it let me run the UMOD file.

>>2782882

Glad to know. Thanks for posting this by the way, I can link this in the group now for troubleshooting.

>>2782884
It still downloads things :P
But at least now I have the bonus pack so I know it's other stuff

On an unrelated note, the server browser has a message about the new UT. Neat.

>>2782895

>It still downloads things :P

Yeah, valhalla avatar, the map voting mutator, and a custom map if we happen to be on one.

The first one lets you see custom skins, the second lets us vote at the end of each map.

>>2782896
Yah I noticed.
Server seems to be set to non-hardcore (so nonvanilla) settings by the way. Jumps are lower than they should be. Can't get to the Plasma gun on Deck for example.

>>2782909

I think that's only vanilla for the GOTY edition.

Here's a really quick map I threw together while attempting to learn how to map in general.
Enjoy this mess of unfiltered shit.

https://mega.nz/#!0hUzDYCC!Iod2fkqaUOXjr2LKRNzKv0VZFhm4IdyQ973gRG1clNg

>>2782917
This was actually pretty damn fun. The traps were unpredictable and well paced, plus pretty creative to boot. This section didn't trip the first time I tried it for some reason.

>>2782916
Nope, Hardcore is the default in UT. Classic is Unreal's 1 style.
By the way the translocator is enabled on deathmatch for some reason.

>>2782965

>By the way the translocator is enabled on deathmatch for some reason.

Yeah, I put that there for newer players or people who haven't played in a while, easier for them to get around/grab power ups and keep matches a little more even. I'll try switching it back to hardcore later in the week.

>>2782917
You've got missing textures all over the shop. Here's just the first HOM effect I found. C'mon mate, Doombuilder even has Map Analysis to stop these problems (F4).

>>2782975
>Yeah, I put that there for newer players or people who haven't played in a while, easier for them to get around/grab power ups and keep matches a little more even.
That makes sense but I think it can potentially break more than it fixes, but hey, its your server and I'm just a random cunt.
>I'll try switching it back to hardcore later in the week.
That would be for the best imo, The higher TTK of classic doesn't bother me much but the lower jump height kills it

>>2782986

>That makes sense but I think it can potentially break more than it fixes, but hey, its your server and I'm just a random cunt.

Other than the obvious like UT99 AS, and UT2004 vehicle modes the only gametype I disabled it in was UT2004's Double Domination because only two teams and people zipping across shorter maps like crazy made it near impossible to score a point sometimes. Regular DOM in UT99 the maps are a bit larger and having three control points with four teams makes it less spammable with translocators.

Anyway though we've gone back and forth on enabling translocators in DM/TDM/LMS plenty of times, it could always change again. I always consider what people offer as advice or input. Thanks again brah

https://soundcloud.com/hashtag-god/not-just-knee-deep-in-the-dead

>>2783004

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2oyweqZ7WM

>>2783004
What

>>2783016
Fart me plenty.

>>2783228
Ultra-flatulence.

>>2783235

Hey, Not Too Shitty Now

>>2783228
>>2783237
>>2783235

>>>/avgn/
>>>/youtube/

>>2782596
was doom guy the demons all along?

>>2783242

No fun allowed

>>2783242
JUST

>>2783250
FART

>>2783254
MY

>>2783254
MY

>>2783250
>>2783254
>>2783256

post cooldown is one hell of a drug

>>2783259
k

>>2783242
>being triggered

>>2783293
the hell is that pic

>>2783293

He miiiiiiiiiiiight be joking.

>>2783298
From the review of Texas Chainsaw Massacre on Atari 2600. It's a rare cart due to a low production run and he finds it on that guy's stall.

>>2783293
>hickok45
THE BEAR CLAW

>>2783016
i wonder what this would sound like on a 303

>vr is born
>/doom/ is born
>it's literally my favorite place on 4chan
>mod makers, map makers, drawfags, oc makers
>"so you wanna play some DOOM"

where did it all go. fuck

>>2783415
>where did it all go?
outside.

>>2782917
- mixed flats and textures
- implicit manuals
- implicit passuse
- zdoomisms everywhere

whatever you're learning to map from is teaching you wrong.

>>2782917
it's quite easy to back out of this, and then you are stuck.

here is a zdoom demo
http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=tu67db

>>2783415

the modders and OC makers aren't gone.

some of us are coming back after an absence.

>>2782917
aside from numerous texture errors it mostly worked in pr+ -complevel 9 right up until i teleported into the red key box and found the button couldn't be pressed.

please also add ways to get out of the pit in the rising walkway room, inescapable death pits are bad design.

demo:
http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=pz41bh

>>2783415
None of that shit went anywhere.

I'm gonna guess this hasn't been done in a long time.
I remember when one of the results sparked a discussion of some dude with a Dora the Explorer fetish.

Its IDGames Gauntlet time!
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random

>>2783705
>some dude with a Dora the Explorer fetish.

Omegalore

>>2783705
i remember, that was when we all learned about Omegalore. now he is a meme

I'm getting into Doom but I live on a university campus where the only computers available are Linux with a lot of restrictions on what files you can install. So after some fucking around I managed to get Legacy Doom working with an Ultimate Doom wad but I'm having trouble configuring the controls. Whenever I shoot it goes right in front of me and the game assumes I want to use the y-axis with mouselook but I have this shit turned off. Anyone got any ideas? Sorry for the newfaggotry.

>>2783714
Why can't you just put executables in your home folder and chmod +x ?

>>2783723
I tried that and it didn't work. Admittedly I'm not very experienced with Linux, only been using it for a month or so now.

I need ideas to make these side areas a little more interesting, my brain's starting to fizzle out already.

>>2783752
>symmetrical maps

>>2783762
Only the entryway is going to be symmetrical.

>>2783752
a marble altar with a few rivlets of blood running from them.

>>2783767
rivulets, even. i don't think i've ever written that word before...

I'm still quite new to Doom mapping and was wondering if it's possible to raise multiple sectors like the pillars in pic related using only one trigger. Is this possible in vanilla Doom?

>>2783705
these are my most recent

>>2734158 >>/vr/thread/2729409#p2734158
>>2736476 >>/vr/thread/2729409#p2736476
>>2739414 >>/vr/thread/2729409#p2739414
>>2757028 >>/vr/thread/2752301#p2757028
>>2768121 >>/vr/thread/2761480#p2768121

>>2783773
you mean several pillars rising to different heights? it is possible with raise to next nearest neighbour height (and change texture, if needed). you need to use control sectors to set the heights.

>>2783780
Thanks for the tip. I have no idea how to do that yet so I guess some learnin' is in order.

Riddle me this.

Why is it that the crowd that pushes for the concept of "playing as the author intended and respecting his vision" whenever people play certain WADs with gameplay mods (simply because they can't help themselves), are the same ones that will twist their necks whenever someone introduces a small change to their own works that they don't like (as small as a single sound replacement), and force the author to change his own WAD to fit their needs?

I'm talking about maps that introduce extra stuff and not gameplay mods here.

>>2783796
control sectors are off-map sectors adjacent to disjoint pieces of the pillars. i'm not sure how to put it into words so i made an example you can learn from. hopefully.

http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=di58bx

>>2783810
i don't understand what you mean. could you give an example? and what do you mean by "twist their necks"?

>>2783823
>could you give an example?

Stomper (poor thing it never got as big as it deserved to be) and Valiant (!). There might be more out there.

People would not respect whatever replacements the author made to some things and would immediately demand to be changed back, instead of editing them themselves for personal play. That's what "twist their necks" refer to.

>>2783767

>>2783762
It's asymmetrical now :^)

>>2783829
what map format? doom/boom/zdoom/udmf/etc?

>>2783810
the way you phrase your question suggests you have an answer already

>>2783832

I really don't.

>>2783831
UDMF for GZDoom.

So captainJ made an addon for the Sans mod.

This is neat

>>2783515
Yikes, I didn't know I was letting texture errors get that out of hand. I was using GZDoom to test the wad since I didn't know what source port to use for such a thing and a lot of that didn't show up, so that probably didn't help much.

Thanks for the webm playthrough, it really helps.

>>2783810
>>2783836

That's what people would like to call "hypocrites". If they're not actively defending the author's vision as they claim to be, then that's what they are.

>>2783842

After seeing the first attack I can't help but think that another Star Wars mod for DOOM (especially in this time of the year) would be really cool and people should start jumping on that boat before it's too late

>>2783857

Is it wrong that if someone makes another Star Wars doom mod, I kinda want to see them draw inspiration from Battlefront with the cooldown based items and abilities?

>>2783810
are you sure they're exactly the same people in both cases?

>>2783819
Thanks for the help. Your map helps me understand the basic principle but I'm still not sure what makes the pillars adopt the properties of the control sector. Placing them like in pic related doesn't seem to work.

>>2783862
>are you sure they're exactly the same people in both cases?

I don't want to start pointing fingers and mention any names but I'm really sure the people that will demand changes are the same ones that claim to respect the "author's vision", as someone said previously.

Of course not everyone that wants others to stop playing maps with gameplay mods on their first try are the ones doing this too; I think you understand what I'm trying to say here.

>>2783871
You have to set them up so that both the pillar sector and the control sector are the same sector.

>>2783871
>>2783874
this is right. i think doom builder calls it "merge sectors" or something. you draw two shapes and merge them into one sector.

>>2783874
>>2783884
Excellent stuff, the pillar raises correctly now.
The texture doesn't change though, and I can't for the life of me figure out why.

>>2783894
the floor texture is copied from the sector in front of the switch. you need to be using e.g. type 20 raise to nhef + change, not type 18 raise to nhef.

how would you rate resurgence in comparison with its predecessor?

>>2783908
>the floor texture is copied from the sector in front of the switch
Huh, I didn't know that.
Anyway, everything works perfectly now. Thanks for the help m8s.

>>2783912

>>2783934
nicely done. i like the look of your map, too.

>>2783934
also, if you want to know how all the linedefs work, read the UDS
http://www.gamers.org/dhs/helpdocs/dmsp1666.html

>>2783415
99% of the modders/mappers were driven away by Terminus and his irc sycophants

>>2784105
citations?

>>2784108
Can't do citations because it's all stuff that happened in irc over the last 1-2 years, which isn't exactly documented and saved anyweher.

>>2784108

my smelly butt

>>2784114
AKA you completely made it up.
Okay then.

>>2784114
well, unless you are truly naive, you must have realised your claim is highly questionable and requiring evidence to back it up.

Is it purely technical interest that vanilla maps are still made?

I mean, Boom lets you make "vanilla" without worrying about overflows and whatnot. So what is the point?

>>2784170

I assume it's because of maximum compatibility. People still play Chocolate Doom and even (ugh) Dosbox.
Some people even play Chocolate Doom multiplayer.

>>2784170
There is still a lot of people that enjoy Doom as vanilla as possible, or would like to see what kind of mapping is done that can be played on actual Doom instead of sourceports.

It is not too hard to understand.

>>2784186
>(ugh) Dosbox.
There's nothing wrong with dosbox, the people hating on it are people that probably never played the game at release. It runs better than ZDoom and it's actually accurate since it's just the original. Some people like to play games the way they were originally are instead of emulating.

>>2784247
chocolate doom does literally everything dosbox does

>>2784114
I remember Term being a cunt about some kid who made a video recommending demonsteele.
He and some others were taking the piss out of him because he wasn't very good the kid even said he had only played it once or twice before, and hadn't set up the controls yet

>>2784267
Terminus and Tarnsman are seriously some of the biggest assholes in the community.
I know we may have some shitty elitists and fights over which thing is superior to whichever other thing, but I feel like they just create this general unwelcoming atmosphere around everything.
The fact that they would take the shit out of some little kid trying to get into DOOM and DOOM mods, especially one that LIKED his mod specifically, really pisses me off.

>>2784262
>paying for a source port
I bet you bought deepsea too.

>>2784279
Since when did you have to buy Chocolate Doom?

>>2784279
What the fuck

>>2784285
>>2784287
So neither of you know the history of chocolate doom? Figures.

>>2784293
>So neither of you know the history of chocolate doom? Figures.
>Figures.
Don't cut yourself on that edge.

>>2784293
What in the fuck are you on about.

>>2784293
I helped debug chocolate doom before it was even on version control. I've successfully built chocolate doom for free on CYGWIN since the beginnning, and on linux later.

Once again, you have zero idea of what your'e talking about. I can only deduce that you're shitposting, because Chocolate Doom has never been up for sale, unless you include the Raspberry PI store, in which case that's what the GPL allows them to do.

>>2784308
>that autistic wall of text
I didn't read it and I don't care.

>>2784312
It's kind of sad to think that there are actually people whose time is so worthless that they lurk threads like this for the sole purpose of shitposting.

>>2784312
I pity you. I really do.

>>2784312
holy shit

>>2784267

I know what video you're talking about.

No,Term wasn't a cunt about the video,he gave us the link,without saying anything else on the subject.
Yes,we (sort of) took a piss out of him,nothing serious,just a "Lol,he's pretty bad".

>>2784170
>I mean, Boom lets you make "vanilla" without worrying about overflows and whatnot. So what is the point?
I think a lot of it is from deciding to interact with Doom not just as a game but as a piece of living history. There's something interesting about deciding to make something that could have been made in 1994. Almost like you're transporting yourself back to that time by working under the same limitations that thousands of people did back then.

It's the same impulse that makes demo scene coders make C64 intros or entirely new Atari 2600 games or that sort of thing.

>>2784340
I like this answer

>>2784267
>>2784276
I remember that.
>person doesn't play vidya well
>wow, this guy isn't playing very well!

Even with the most twisted logic, I really fail to see how this is a problem.

>>2784361
It's the fact that some kid, who is obviously new to Doom and Demonsteele, gives Term praise, and recommends the mod to people, only to have Term turn around and take the absolute piss out of him, and then inadvertently launch an entire group of Term's followers on him as well, to tear him apart.

>>2784373
>and then inadvertently launch an entire group of Term's followers on him as well, to tear him apart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCHlOs-j5_w

Yeah, look at that video with absolutely no dislikes, no negative comments, and had absolutely nothing except some remarks on the IRC about "wow he's really bad at playing", which he is.
If you wanna get upset at someone, Mike12's the one that made image macros.

>>2784384
heh he make silly face and funny noises

>>2784384
Mike12 is one of term's ass lickers, as that anon said.
There was absolutely no reason to be so rude to some kid who was enjoying their mod and openly recommending it. So what is he's a LPer with a facecam?

>>2784170
there are certain reasons for sticking with vanilla gameplay physics (-complevel 2/3/4) over boom (-complevel 9).

that said i think you're talking about rendering limits not gameplay behaviour changes.

>>2784425
>so rude

Lol.
When being "rude" amounts to "this guy doesn't play well", you're a pretty sheltered kid.
Enjoying something and making something based off of it does not automatically make it immune to criticism.

Hey, speaking of stuff based off Term's mods, do you want to defend this and say making fun of it is also rude? Because it's pretty fucking awful.
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/146736/eight-out-of-hell

>>2784105

You're so full of shit.

>>2784014

>>2782632

I know it's technically not retro, but HOSTING UT2004 AT THE IP LISTED IN THAT POST

http://toastytech.com/good/ffdoom.html

>>2784649
haha

New level - The Catacombs
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8xWmOI7IYl3R2FNQ2NEMWtJVm8/view?usp=sharing

Playable in limit-removing ports (some small visual errors in Chocolate Doom for some reason).

I've aimed to make an early-game level, which means that you'll only be using the pistol, shotgun, chaingun and rocket launcher, and dealing with nothing harder than a revenant. Different difficulty levels included.

The .deh patch included just changes the map name.

I know this might be discussed a lot, but why is Doom a common thread between a bunch of otherwise obnoxious fandoms?

I mean, we had Barney Doom but none of those people liked Barney. We had Bubblegum Crisis Doom but it was a one-time thing. Now on Zandronum I see Caleb from blood riding a My Little Pony in MAP02. Surely there's a line somewhere where parody becomes indistinguishable from another "fandom" taking over?

Doom seems to survive these fandom invasions pretty well, But sometimes I wonder when there will be one that shares a little too much with doom, causing an all-out flamewar. Now we have UnderTale, which has demons, monsters, agitating skeletons, baphomet heads, you name it. Oh yeah, and Touhou. oh my god.

Am I just too paranoid? Or is there something here worth discussing?

>>2784708
You argument seems to neglect the notion that one person can like more than one thing.
It is only natural for people to combine their personal interests.

>>2784708
It is more like A lot of people who like Doom like a lot of other things, and the same goes for other people just liking Doom

You are being paranoid.

>>2784713
I'm all for people mixing and matching, but I always worry of some noobs running others off. I know it's illogical, but that fear is always there...

>>2784717
Well, then that's kind of a relief. As long as no one gets angry, then I suppose I can live with it. :)

>>2784708
doom is easy to get into, basically free, and has an endless supply of fan made mods. it is thus attractive to all kind of nerds who bring their other obsessive interests with them. note i do not mean this in a bad way. i am myself a nerd with obsessive interests. as likely are you, the reader of this post.

>>2784436
>fimfiction

>>2784694
cool i will play/record this tomorrow

>>2784708
If anything, Undertale will bring nothing but good things and bad times.
Just check out Sans.wad

>>2784708

I think my favorite trend was that surge of mods inspired by older vidya, like demonsteele, GMOTA, and hocus doom.

Definitely not biased towards that for reasons

>>2784108
one of the guys that recently left all but named terminus in his "fuck you I'm leaving" tumblr post

>>2784806
that's not a citation, a citation is a link with corroborating information

Another Spellcross screeny

Do you guys know how the Floor Blood Decals were done from this brutaldoom video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEyGMRXFHik

When the Spell enemies die, I plan to leave custom blood marks on the ground, cant seem to find the answer yet in BD wad code

>>2784817

They're not actually decals, they leave sprites that last X amount of time, kind of like nashgore blood.
Only difference is that the sprites are given flat models in modeldef.

>>2784806
link, please.
>>2784809
quite.

>>2784818

Might need to research how modeldef works then

Who dun it is back.

>>2784827

It left?

>>2784820
>link, please.
There's a link in the comments on the Demonsteele facebook page

>>2784830
oh you rascal

>>2784830
Just put up or shut up.

What do you see people do in the DOOM community that really agitates you?

>>2784908
Use bad music in Doom levels
Slaughtermaps, not my thing.
Have a really good gameplay mod but abandon it without saying anything

>>2784908
Dropping really really good projects like unloved :(, and using unfitting music for levels.

>>2784908
>Browsing Doomworld
>Start reading the top of a post
>The first thing in the post is: *hits blunt*
You know the guy I'm talking about

Hey, /doom/, I barely know crap about doom and hear my little brother talk about it a ton He's even trying to become popular with it. He even showed me one of his videos, I don't think he'll make it
Should I put the link here?

Man I wish there were more weapon mods that had a buying system, I really like shopping in my doom, but I wonder why that gymmick is so scarce through modders. From what I recall the mods that have it are:
> Psychic: Really neat, one of my favorites.
> Doom RPG: A lot of shit to buy, but don't like the fact that the more you play the thing more boring and unbalanced it gets.
> Doom Mercenaries: A Half Made mod made in the goddamn skulltag times.
> Cold Hard Cash? : Never played it
> Wrath of Chronos: In the latest update you can buy some artifacts or shit.

Seriusly we need more of this, I prefer I nice buying sistem so much more than a leveling up system, IMO It doesn't break balance as much and it keeps the gameplay fresh. What do you think?

>>2784992
Buying fucks with the pacing big time.

Play Black Warrior if you want more buying, it's pretty neat.

>>2784992
there's Guncaster

>>2784983

Sure, if you think you can handle the input.
We're not exactly shy about telling people if we think it's shit.

>>2784992
DR Class V6+ (zdoom variant) has a buying system.

>>2784998
Oh yeah, I forgot about that one!

>>2784908

Talking shit about another person and then when they show up either A: pretend everything's fine or B: suddenly go quiet.
Instead of, y'know, instead of actually saying things to their fucking face.

>>2784708
>Bubblegum Crisis Doom
Why haven't I heard of this before? This is sweet. The BFG sounds are hilariously bad, though.

>>2785000
Checked
Huh, it's not there, I think he took it down

test

>>2785007
Isn't it just reskinned Doom weapons?

>>2785034

The sprites are still really nice, though.

>>2784908

Shitty melee weapons.

Gameplay mods that follow the old trope of a useless starting weapon

>>2785038
I was just asking really, I don't have any issues with it provided it looks right.

An example of it not looking right would be Hokuto no Ken Doom

>>2784827
Anyone have that screenshot where they're all in the gym and they're crouching, which makes them look like manlets because the player sprites don't have crouching animations, so the engine just compresses their sprites to compensate

Do you think Terminus genuinely keeps a PDF file full of Demonsteele lore?

>>2785162
There are crouch sprites though, even when carrying the M1 Carbine, the crouching sprite looks like it has a sniper rifle.

>>2785172
The lore is in the zdoom thread afaik.

>>2784830
>the Demonsteele facebook page
Nigga
What
???

>>2784908
Use R667 stuff without editing them.

Yeah, Realm 667 as a whole isn't bad, the problem here is the fact that some mods [complex doom for example] just copypaste shit and call it a day. Colorful Hell is HOW you should paste R667 stuff, by add different and even new stuff so it plays good.

Also, another thing that bothers me, maps without coop support

>>2784996
Nope, Psychic's pacing isn't exactly altered. if you're fast enough, you buy the timefreezer then keep shopping for power-ups and then bomb everything. That is after you upgrade everything

Just beat Doom 2, should I move on to Doom 64 or hit up some WADs?

Thanks in advance friends.

>>2785191
Doom 64 is like the Doom 2 sequel most people never experienced, so if you're in the mood for more classic Doom that doesn't shit in your cornflakes, then go ahead and give it a shot, see if you like it. Keep in mind it's got more puzzles than you may be used to, though, and because it was made for the N64 the maps occasionally go to slower pacing (but there'll be a whole lot of big fights later on, trust me).

>>2785172

Not a PDF. I have a sub-folder in the project folder that's chock full of writings, lore, and more.
It was mainly to appease my love of writing that sort of stuff, though; I'm genuinely surprised to see some people are actually interested in it.

I usually try to keep story stuff optional, since I figure a lot of people are more interested in hacking demons up rather than learning something like Shihong's favorite pizza joints.

>>2785172

I've been writing down and plotting out lore and shit for lord Blaz and the other heroes, and I've been typing out a design document for a standalone prequel game I'd like to make one day.

I might have a problem

I've had a design doc since day 1 of development. Even if nobody is interested in the story I've always kept a consistent lore going along development.

Has anyone made a mod that removes the dead bodies similar to the gore janitor mod in brutal doom.

>>2785191
sure you can if you want to play it on pc then here's the link for a source port.

https://doom64ex.wordpress.com/downloads/

>>2785207
You underestimate our autism.

>>2785287
Not that I know of since that would prevent archviles from resurrecting, which could break certain maps or make them ridiculously easy.

>>2784908
People who shit on 90's or 90's styled maps, because they don't look or play like a modern map.

>>2784908
ZDOOMISMS

>Watch Doom 4's MP alpha video
>dat riff at 2:27
unf.

>>2785287
if "dehacked patch" counts as "mod":
http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=iu73vy

>>2785357
you are right it breaks resurrections which affects a small number of maps. so don't put it in your autoload!

regarding game balance note it means you cannot prevent an archvile from attacking you by luring it over corpses. so in some ways it makes things harder.

Why doesn't quake have the same level of mod-ability as doom does? Like you can load independent mods at once, like loading btsx,russian overkill and metal midis at once but the only thing I can find for quake maps, is this the ability of certain engines or is it relating to the community?

I also can't find any weapon only mods for quake 1

>>2785007
what is the map you're playing there?

found this skankerin around

I can't look at it for longer than five seconds before kekking uncontrollably

>>2785481
it looks so goofy, kek

>>2785485
Cacodemons always look goofy.

>>2785486
but they most certainly don't look like a stoned hipster with a shabby beard

I need to sleep.
http://vrdoom.xyz/wiki/
Make some pages and I'll administrate and style the wiki tomorrow.

>>2782596
Holy crap that edit made it all the way back here.

>>2785497
Requesting a dark gray background and the text be slightly sized up and colored bright gray.

It's easier on the eyes if you're gonna do a lot of reading.

Also the logo should totally be a cacodemon or a revenant

Is that Brutal Doom starter pack in the OP unfinished? A bunch of textures won't load in Zandronum. Shame because the first few maps seem like great stuff and dat Doom movie music.

>>2785513
It has "test" in the filename so I'd assume it's unfinished

>>2785497
cool thanks for setting this up.

iSpook you around? in the latest suab version the gibs sometimes spawn another version of the bloodfiend that just keep reviving over and over again, I needed to drop him and make sure he was under a door, kill it and close it to squash him or the thing would follow me around during the level.
Is this intended?

Also when I die on damage floors the game crash with a big list of ammo dropped or something, this happens in the version before the new one too.

>>2785586

Are you playing in "Shut up and Die" difficulty? Then yes. Blood fiends in that difficulty level will always resurrect. Just avoid them.

>>2785592
It's a feature from the 4a version? they only started to pop when I updated while in the middle of a playthrough , maybe I was just lucky.

>>2785609
Yes.

>>2785612
You said I'm supposed to avoid them but as I said I found by accident a way to kill them, maybe it needs fixing.

>>2785617
I'll fix that.

>>2785618
Just noticed , I'm playing Hellbound difficulty not Shut up and Die, just saiyan.

>>2785385
I actually avoid reading the DWMC whenever they're doing an old school megawad for this very reason.

>>2785471
It's Exquisite Corpse (excorpse.wad), a community wad made up of 12 1024x1024 maps merged together.

What if there was a tetrominoes megawad?

>>2782632

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3xL_ppX4-s

>>2785452
thanks anon i needed in case of slaughter maps.

>that guy in the doomrpg thread who apparently stores everything on his fucking desktop

>>2785791
haha, that intro.

>>2783842
sans.wad is the shit. Hell's having a bad time.

>>2786224

Glad someone enjoyed it

>>2783842
>>2786271
holy crap that looks great

>>2786282
That map is baller.

>>2786293

I'd say the great majority of them are.

Stock maps of course, great custom maps are a bit harder to find

>>2786295
>that pic
Have you checked that one rats-style map (UT community has another name for these kind of maps but I can't remember) for the new game?

>>2786271
are the player sprite graphics accurate to the source material? frankly, they look like crap. reminds me of joe ilya's pony hud.

>>2786315
Pretty much, yeah. Goodtimesans improves them, as seen in >>2783842

>>2786315
It's designed from a very low detail sprite. There's an addon with an actual skeleton hand floating around somewhere

>>2786295
>>2786306
This it the one. DM-Warhouse.

>>2786306

I haven't been paying too much attention to UT4 in the last few months.

The weapons, level design, and gameplay look good but I didn't like how the developers handled the character design concerns from the community. Came across as douchey.

I'd try it out if I had a computer that could handle running it but as fo now the game isn't complete enough to make me wanna try it.

Was it a remake of an older map or a new one? Sounds cool either way.

>>2786341

Oh wait, there we go - That looks pretty nice. Wonder how long that took to make.

>>2786369
>I didn't like how the developers handled the character design concerns from the community. Came across as douchey.
Can you expand on this or provide a link? The cosmetic plans interest me. Saw some people bitching about the box cosmetic a while ago.
>That looks pretty nice. Wonder how long that took to make.
It does look nice. Guy based it off IRL pics he took. Didn't say how much it took to finish tho.

>>2786405


It was just me being butthurt about how they were being really quiet and then dismissive about people talking about character designs once I made a thread about it.

https://forums.unrealtournament.com/showthread.php?19001-Comunication-betwen-devs-community-on-character-design

Like I said, there were a lot of people like me that liked the movement speed, dodging, weapon designs, the map layouts etc a ton but the devs were awfully silent about the character designs for months until they finally just said they weren't looking to incorporate most people's ideas for it when they could've just said it at the start.

I fully expected they wouldn't just port over the older models and they shouldn't, but some of the new designs don't resemble older characters at all or just felt generic. In a video they showed off someone's art who made a classic style Necris (not that I was even the biggest fan of the old Necris) and they praised it but kinda passive aggressively said it was too stylish to fit the tone of the game.

Player models are a minor aspect of the game but I just got a douchey vibe from how they said it.

Contributed first page to new vrdoom wiki, looking forward to others contributing more.

>>2786435
>https://forums.unrealtournament.com/showthread.php?11320-Aberiu-s-characters
Holy fuck those are baller as shit. And the Skaarj does look uninspired and generic. It really does look like a GoW Locust. The other designs in that thread look miles better.
Also I never liked the concept of Necris much. I think the current models look kinda sweet tho, the necris male in particular.

However I do think some sacrifices have to be made in the name of artistic consistency. U2k4 was full of random as shit character, honestly wasn't a fan. In some cases I would say I preferred the GoW look of UT3.
The cosmetics could be a problem too, but we'll see.

>>2786481

The only consistency I really want is that returning characters keep the same basic traits, like Malcom did. Most of the new designs aren't horrible, but some of them don't match up to previous versions or just don't have anything too eye catching about them.

It's the overdesigning that kills it with modern games, they try to make things visually appealing by addings tons of detail, but without much planning to it.

The new Necris aren't bad, I wasn't a fan of the old ones to begin with, but they act like the new ones are in any way unique when they look like Quan Chi.

As far as the 2003/4 characters I never played half of them but I did appreciate that the guys like the Gen Mo Kai and Anubis characters stood out and if you looked at them you would know they came from Unreal and not some other game.

Nothing they've shown is anywhere near as boring or generic as the UT3 designs, and I knew the new stuff would be way different, I just didn't like how hush hush they were about it and then seemed to have gotten frustrated at the people asking questions or making concepts.

Those Aberiu concepts were the perfect example of different armor/designs for older characters but still recognizeable and detailed without going overboard.

>>2782598
Bumping for anyone who wants to play(test)
>>2784694
Here's a picture of the opening on UV.

>>2782975
But there's already hammerjump for that

>>2786523
i am sorry. i meant to do this today, but other things intervened. i will record it when i have the opportunity.

So that Tai Tenga alpha mod finally released a beta today. Standalone weapons/enemies, and the first episode of Doom 1. And while I haven't dabbled with the episode yet, I did mess with the standalone content, and.. well, it's kind of bland. Like there was no attempt to keep consistency besides content being inspired by alpha stuff loosely. Top that with even the standalone being filled with midi re-arrangements of all the Doom music for 1 and 2 (that are arguably more obnoxious and not very good) and, well.. yeah.

I'll dabble in the episode itself when I feel like it, but from the preview video for some reason there's Doom 3 grenades and dark lighting that encourages an included flashlight mod. Not to mention the Super Shotgun and Grenade Launcher are from KDiZD, and all the Armor Bonuses are.. replaced with Demonic Daggers for seemingly no good reason. Maybe i'm being a bit too critical here but is this hodge-podge what they've been working on for several years now?

>>2786616
tei tenga? didn't that come out in like 1999?

>>2786638
http://www.moddb.com/mods/doomthe-tei-tenga-incident
This mod, the one that had development issues for a while and is now touting to be the first alpha mod with actual full map content released.

>>2783842
How did you get the hud to not be tiny and/or at the bottom of the screen? Also, how did you get the taunting and ketchup to work, I can't do those for some reason.

>>2786523
Nigga turn down your gamma

What is the easiest way to play on Linux?

>>2786494
>Quan Chi

I knew there was something of about the new necris.

>>2786668

Make sure to load the original sans mod first, THEN good times. Bind your reload key, and hit + to adjust HUD size

>>2785791
>>2786224
>>2786282

>>2786810

Thought about that while making it actually lol.

>>2786773
Create a directory to stick your doom wads in.
Add a line to ~/.bashrc :

export DOOMWADDIR=/home/yourname/doom
# change that to what your directory actually is.

Logout, log back in. This environment variable is detected by most source ports, so they will pick up where your wads are stored automatically.
As for what sourceport to use, thats up to you, I guess. Most distros have old-ass binaries for doom source ports, if any, in their package repositories, so I would compile the ones you want yourself.

>>2786369
Hell yes Sandstorm, I remember playing that heaps in Invasion.
>>2786481
>And the Skaarj does look uninspired and generic. It really does look like a GoW Locust. The other designs in that thread look miles better.
People keep ignoring, or aren't aware, that the Skaarj character in UT4 is part of the Skaarj Trooper caste (it's part of his bio, but he also has a short tail, one of the main traits of a Trooper), they aren't as primal as Warriors and more militaristic. I feel the reason they made him a Trooper was to have a middle-ground between the Hybrids from ut99 and the Warriors from ut2k4.

Mind you, he doesn't really look like a Trooper either, as they're always wearing masks and helmets in the original game. No one really knows what a Skaarj Trooper's face looks like, or if they even have dreads .

>>2786749
Here you go m80

Buy an old Macbook, PPC version at that- just to play Marathon on natively? I suppose I'd also use it for all the other Bungie retro games as well. Is this a terrible waste of money I do not have? Y/N

>>2786852

The fact that they called it a Trooper and it doesn't really resemble the guys in your pic bothers my autism. Speaking of Sandstorm, I screwed around with giving some of our custom maps updated lighting and skyboxes from other maps.

Sandstorm's I gave the skybox from CBP BlackJackal, but I'm trying to figure out how to keep the actual sandstorm swirling around the map but make it transparent to see this skybox behind it.

>>2786889
Yes, it is.

Also, Marathon (including Durandal and Infinity) has a source port called Aleph One.

>>2786907
Too bad Aleph One is shit.

>>2786910
My understanding is that Aleph One is basically a Chocolate Doom equivalent, so you wouldn't get a much better experience playing it on native hardware.

>>2786928

It's less Chocolate Doom and more the Doom Retro equivalent.

What's the best way to play the Mac version of Wolf3D on Windows?

>>2786902
>>2786852(me)
Yeah, after looking at Garog again the designers and whoever working on him really don't know what the hell they want him to be. Skaarj Troopers have yellow or blue skin for one, while the designers (and the entirety of the forums, jesus christ) want him to be green with dreads like a stereotypical Warrior. Also his tail's not as short as I thought it was.

>>2786938
why haven't you donated to the maker of aleph one yet, anon?

why doesnt 4chan have support for pcx or any other retro file type?

>>2786369
Aesthetics-wise what bothers me is that the guns seem a fair bit too big
It's not about realism (cuz durr it's unreal), it's that they look kinda ridiculous and UT guns weren't xboxhueg bfgs

>>2787281
Like, look at this fucking thing
It doesn't even have a stock (they never did, but still) and the character pistol-fires it sometimes
It's bonkers

>>2787283
concept art size

>>2787281
>UT guns weren't xboxhueg bfgs
Hmmmmmmmmm

>>2787290
ingame size
>>2787292
yeah but that is the bfg of ut
i'm taking in general

>>2787281
>>2787283

The guns don't bother me too bad because when you look at them it's easy to recognize what they are. It's the identity crisis Necris, Locust Skaarj and Thundercrash with no decorations or gold that have the image problems.

You might be right about the guns being large though, didn't they tone down the sizes in 04 from 03? I mean the actual models too, not just the small weapons option.

>>2787293
The rifles of UT, shock and sniper in particular were characterized as long. Regardless, big weapons isn't bad as long as they have a Small Weapons toggle for the first person models, which have been done before.

>>2787281
>UT guns weren't xboxhueg bfgs

>>2782596
>working on doom mod
>make a monster
>if the monster replaces a vanilla monster, everything works fine
>if the monster doesn't replace anything, the missile state sometimes fails to produce any missiles
I've been stumped on this for the past week, any ideas as to what might be causing it?

>>2787295
>Regardless, big weapons isn't bad as long as they have a Small Weapons toggle for the first person models, which have been done before.
I like that option, but my problem isn't the size on the first person view, my problem is how the guns look on everyone else. Flak in first person looks fantastic, on everyone else it's kinda goofy
Though I guess the size makes the weapons instantly recognizable, so you know what to expect

>>2787306
Compare that to this.

>>2787261
Because they are limited, deprecated formats, so it wouldn't make sense to implement.

And your browser would have to support rendering them, unless it worked through some JavaScript image decoding library, which at that point, the image might as well just get converted into another format. Really though, any webserver that has server-side PHP and ImageMagick could have an easily written script to pick up on the format and automatically convert it into PNG

Also, if this is about chocolate-doom screenshots, there is an option for them to be output as .png instead.

>>2787312

You'd have to give a lot more detail, friend. Can you post the code on Pastebin?

>>2787340
http://pastebin.com/kXFs4ueZ
Sure thing, here is the code

If I have it replace the zombieman, it works
If I leave it as is, the projectiles it fires will sometimes not appear despite the animation and firing sound playing

>>2787306
>>2787316
That's called "perspective", Anon.

>>2787330
easily written but not exactly scalable to the loads under which the 4chan servers are put, i suspect.

>>2787351
i am not a zdoom modder but it doesn't look like there's anything obviously wrong with this, comparing it with the definition of ZombieMan (there's a BSPI in the spawn state, should that be SHEW?)

sorry i can't be more help, expert needed.

>>2787351
>the projectiles it fires will sometimes not appear despite the animation and firing sound playing

This sounds like the projectiles are getting blocked. It's possible they're either hitting each other or something solid.

>>2787465
That is the sprite it uses, but because it's followed by a 0 you'll never actually see it

>>2787490
http://pastebin.com/xEJjX2ze
This is the projectile. Even when I made it non-solid, it still doesn't work correctly

>>2787501

Try putting +THRUSPECIES and Species "Shot" on both the projectiles and the monster.

>>2787351
>>2787501
To see the monster ingame I replaced the monster sprites with that of an imp, and the projectile with plasmaball sprites, it seems to work fine in GZdoom and Zdoom, the test monster replacing zombiemen or not.

The only issue I saw was that because your monster is non-solid, crowds of it can merge together and not let any projectiles spawn as they're all hitting each other instead.
If you want this fixed and your Eyeshots to pass through friendly testmonsters, use +MTHRUSPECIES on the Eyeshot actor.

>>2787531
No dice, unfortunately

>>2787537
Your post gave me an idea, and I have confirmed it. It's the custom maps I'm using the monster on. For some reason, the custom monsters aren't creating projectiles correctly on them, but replaced and vanilla monsters are. Now I'll have to figure out why.
As for non-solid, the monsters are usually spread out far so that non-solidity doesn't usually become a problem.

Thank you anons for your help!

>>2787537(me)
Well, I say friendly testmonsters, but really it's *any* testmonsters. Testmonsters spawned with the "summonfriend" command won't be able to hit their own species as the missiles will pass through, so keep that in mind.

>>2787543
Well, that's strange. Good luck Anon!

Hey UT-anon. Do you ever get any Nerf Arena Blast games going? It's abandonware now and honestly it's just as good as the engine it uses.

>>2786271
Looks like sans is having a good time.

Only one month away, anons. What's your bets for this year's Cacowards?

>>2787978

Sunlust and Valiant are legitimate shoo-ins, that should leave just 8 spots for this year's event I guess.

>>2787978
Man what the fuck is going to be the gameplay mod award for this year? Fucking nothing stellar came out.

>>2787978

Espi: John Romero, not just for his obvious contributions but in keeping touch with the community even up 'till now, especially with all of the beta shit he's released for people.
Maps: Valiant, Swift Death, Threshold of Pain II, Sunlust, Crumpets.
Gameplay: I HAPPILY GIVE THE AWARD TO MY ASS, BECAUSE THIS WAS A SHIT YEAR FOR GAMEPLAY MODS.
Multiplayer: Don't Be a Bitch LMS
Mockaward: Selfie Doom

Side bars talking about Doom 4, Ty's passing, and the advent of Gloome/GPLGZdoom.

>>2788002
gmota

>>2788026
Gmota hasn't gotten touched this year.

Hey guys, can you recommend me a good wad to play?

I mean, I know the whole point is to have levels get more challenging, but I've played some megawads where the map 03 was insanely hard and then some levels in the 20s were a walk in the park.

So can you recommend me a great wad that's a good example of each level getting progressively harder?

>>2788002
They'll probably give it to Demonsteele again or one of TerminusEst13's other projects.

>>2787993
was sunlust really that good? should I play it? or did nothing spectacular come out this year
I mean I haven't played it so I am a bad example but by the looks of it I think it was just above average detail to the levels with lots of demon spam
nothing clever really since every level looked kinda same
It's cool to have a theme tho and all that

>>2786870
that looks pretty neat
I can hear the later doom2 level music already just looking at this

>>2788059

There's not a single WAD or mod that has been given a second Cacoward the following year or any other year.

Smooth Doom was mentioned in last year's, it's arguably this year's most played and talked about mod, but I'm not sure if it's even considered as a 2015 mod.

I wouldn't complain in the slightest if the Gameplay Mod award becomes discontinued this year, in all honesty.

>>2788071
Has ww been given one yet? ATM goud deserve one.

>>2788071

There's also that I haven't done much to DemonSteele this year. The new big feature is still in development.

This year's definitely been pretty lackluster for gameplay mods, though. The "big things" I can think of are Smooth Doom and DoomRLA, the latter of which even just got a 1.0 update last month so that technically makes it eligible.

>>2787978
valiant and sunlust for the obvious picks for maps
not a lot of multiplayer or gameplay releases this year so uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh maybe DBAB for multi?
selfie doom is guaranteed mockaward

something involving terminus just to piss off the nerds looking for a conspiracy theory because lol

>>2788078
>ATM

totally a 2014 mod, and compared to other gameplay mods of that year, it just doesn't hold up

>>2788081
>DoomRLA, the latter of which even just got a 1.0 update last month so that technically makes it eligible.
this is an interesting point
If this would be allowed to slide, i can't think of anything else that would surpass DRLA in content, scope, or hype

>>2788081
>>2788091
The only thing about DRLA is that it already got a side mention in last year's Cacowards. Not sure if that makes it ineligible this year or not.

2015 the year of hideous destructor

>>2788096

>spoiler

AHAHAHA NO

>>2788091
The big question would be if it was allowed to slide. Even though it just got 1.0 status recently, and even though the 1.0 release was the most hyped thing, and even though there's fifty shitzillion people playing it, the project started in 2013.
I mean, yeah, there's plenty of projects that start early on and then "finish" later (hello all Mordeth winners), but when it comes to a gameplay mod, what's an appropriate milestone to gauge it by?

Well, I say that, but WHAT THE FUCK ELSE is there going to be?

>>2788107
sans mod?
trailblazer?
uhhh
hm

shit, this really was an anemic year for gameplay mods

>>2788107
SUAB?

>RE: CC1 MAP29
yeah, no, not even going to fucking bother anymore

this is downright one of the worst levels i've ever had the displeasre of stumbling upon in a otherwise average mapset, most of which, if lackluster at times, still managed to make its worst look like fucking masterpieces compared to this piece of hot garbage

pic related is probably the worst offender by far, jesus christ
>confusing keyhunting with zero indication where to go next
>bland map layout and shitty pacing in general
should I just idclev ahead to MAP30 at once? i have never skipped a map in any mapset/megawad ever and it feels so
idk, dirty to say the least?? ugh

>>2788140
>>2788142
>sans mod
Lol.

>trailblazer
Fun mod, not really award-worthy. The main gameplay gimmick is...well, a complete gimmick. Also, the "overkill overpowered deathweapons" thing is kind of done to death now.
Finally, it was kind of a flash in the pan before dying out. People are hardly touching it now. Compare with how people are still playing MSX, DS, and Burt Lamb now.

>SUAB
Now that's an interesting choice. By the author's own admission, though, it's hardly in any comparable state. There's also that it only just recently broke away from Chronoteeth's dumbass claw grip, so it still needs a bit of time to become its own thing.

>>2788152
i guess that leaves only comfy doom then

Why is Sky May Be considered controversial?

Demonsteele won an award and it wasn't at a 1.0 release.

>tfw working on a vaporwave/house/doom metal concept album

>>2788157

Comfy Doom is more mockaward material, and there's no way anything but Selfie Doom is going to get that.
Though it does leave Project Brutality

>>2788007
Romero is cool as shit for sticking around, but, you know, this community did kind of make him a millionaire (doom community, not the general)

>>2788174
even bypassing that project brutality is basically TOP KEK, it's an addon/fork of another mod
there's no way a fork would win over the base project
and the base project already won one

i agree with >>2788071 and >>2788081
the only really viable candidates are smooth doom and doomrla

>>2788158
a british nerd with an absurdist nonsequitor sense of humour and a penchant for doom hacking made a surrealist wad filled with references to relatively obscure 70s-90s british comedy shows, thus making it even more incomprehensible to americans, in particular to Linguica, in whose memory the wad stuck. so later when Linguica found himself in a position to write for the Something Awful front page feature "Cranky's Steve's reviews" of bad game levels, he wrote an article about his favourite weird Doom wad, and Something Awful's wide readership guaranteed that this wad became a meme.

>>2788169
gibe

You think this was a bad year for gameplay mods?
The only multiplayer thing that is legit good out there is Don't be a Bitch Remastered, besides this there are no multiplayer mods anymore.

Also, bear in mind something people, after 10 years, OMGWPNS, the original randomizer doom mod has been updated this year, so this thing has chances to get a spot in the gameplay mod awards. [>inb4 runner up because DoomRLA has more hype]

>>2788193

10 years? God damn.
Sounds like a shoe-in for Mordeth.
The only alternative I can think of is Skulldash, which has had seven years.

>>2788203
>Mordeth award

I think https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/73820-prime-directive-v1-01-and-commentary-video/ ought to count, since it's an author's direct sequel to a wad he made TWELVE YEARS AGO.

kmxexii played it and liked it, and I wouldn't be surprised if he included it just as a way to get it mentioned. Assuming of course he doesn't give it a normal cacoward, which he might, actually.

the mordeth award is for more than just a long development time, that's boring

it's for a long and turbulent development time full of excess hype, failure to deliver, drama, setbacks, false dawns, etc.

>>2788236

So, Blade of Agony, then?

Thanks to the UT anon I reinstalled 99
I'd forgotten how much fun it is, even with bots
Making people bounce with flak secondary then blowing them up with primary is joy in it's purest form

Why is the thread full of pics of a non-retro game? Fuck off.

>>2788247
I swear this is the same prick as always, browsing the catalog for fresh new shitposting opportunities.

>>2788260
you'll know when you see him, trust me

he's so retardedly easy to detect a mile away you could say he literally stenches of autism and genuine keyboard warrior sweat

>>2788002
Sans.

Got to the end of the first episode of the BD starter pack and ... died. Wasn't expecting these...

>>2788096
It shouldn't. Samsara was mentioned in the 2012 Cacowards but got an award proper in 2013.

>>2788193 is right, though, this year was a shit for both gameplay and multiplayer. 2015 was definitively the year of the mapwad--a whole ton of incredible projects and mapsets and PCs and TCs, not a whole lot of standalone multiplayer or gameplay stuff.
With any other community, this would probably be something to worry about. Hopefully we get some more unique stuff in 2016.

>>2788378
It seems the trick is to save the friendly marines from the start, to use as a distraction

>>2788378
Who are these demons and what do they do?

>>2788410
>Who are these demons
belphegor
>what do they do
fuck my shit up

>>2788193
>post yfw complex doom is the most buzzword multiplayer mod this year

I just learned that in unreal tournament 99, after loading multiple rockets, you can shoot them all together instead of in a horizontal formation
I thought that was only a UT2k4 thing
The ingame weapons menu didn't mention it

>>2788431
I have a strong dislike for the lack of variety on Zandronum servers being played these days.

And I dislike Complex Doom.

>>2788503
I really miss this mod.

>>2788378
>>2788405
It's not hard to fight them alone. Keep using the computer screens to hide from their attacks (hide before they throw their projectiles so it can hit the screens, because it has splash damage and will hurt you if it hits the wall). The best tactic is to keep circle strafing them to the bottom of the room, then running to the portal's stairs and unloading your guns from there (you will have room to evade their projectiles easily from that position) And try to keep focus on killing one first, because the other will get pretty easy after his buddy is dead.

>>2788026

GMOTA doesn't deserve it this year. I've done fuck all with it.

Maybe next year

>>2788148
Didn't the guy who made map29 die shortly before the megawad's release?

So, i saw some Quake 3 Arena model ports for Quake live and i decided to do this http://www.moddb.com/games/open-arena/addons/ql-playermodels-ioquake3-oa(for OpenArena) and http://www.moddb.com/games/quake-iii-arena/addons/ql-playermodels-ioquake3 this for Quake 3.

I don't think its too much of a deal, they don't seem to care with the ones on the workshop afterall.

How the fuck do I play Blood with DOSBox without it looking and playing like shit?

>>2788707

Guess we know what killed him.

>>2788891
That's not exactly funny, anon.

>>2788002
doomrla 1.0

>dabble through the directory of older versions of SLADE
>boot up the .exe
>HOLY SHIT IT FINALLY WORKS NOW I CAN FINALLY HANG FUCKING SLUMPED UP JESUS

>it's a map editor
>they're all map editors and older versions of it
whoever manages that directory download page is a piece of the lowest shit

Name me some Doom-like FPS games.

I've played Blood, Rise of the triad, Heretic, Doom, DN3D, Serious Sam, Shadow Warrior, Quake, Painkiller, and I tried Hexen.

I got stuck on both Hexen 1 and 2 and quit because I'm fucking retarded.

>>2789005

not retro, but look into Ziggurat, it's pretty okay

>>2789007

I've played that too. It's pretty nice. Not bad, not extraordinarily good. It's okay.

>>2788853
i can't remember but i'm sure this has been covered, perhaps you could search an archive for "blood dosbox"? sorry i can't be more help

>>2788963
iirc slade was basically a rewrite of slumped with a map editor

>>2788853

steam

>>2789005
wrack
rise of the triad 2013

>>2789050
man I've heard a lot of really non favorable shit about wrack

like, combos and ugly level design and ugly weapons and enemies and just shit in general

didn't bobby prince make the ost for it though??

>>2789067
>didn't bobby prince make the ost for it though??
yes actually

and mostly it was short and lacked a map

>>2789005
chex quest 1 2 3.

>>2789005
What draws the line on Doom-like? Would you not like Unreal, Half-Life, Turok, Deus Ex, System Shock, Wheel of Time, Strife, Shogo, AvP, Perfect Dark(N64), Armorines(N64)?

There's that doom clone Insomniac Games made before Spyro called Disruptor(PSX), apparently it's decent.

Play Doom64 if you haven't

First online test of the grimdark mod went well. 3.0 seems to run it a lot better than 2.1.2 does, especially with lighting, so I guess I'll make the mod 3.0 compatible rather than 2.1.2 compatible.
Recently got a Super Shotgun/Rocket Launcher replacement, so all that leaves is the Chainsaw and Plasma Rifle/BFG9000. I still like anon's idea of having the Cell weapons be dark magic instead of crazy sci-fi shit, so the BFG will probably be something, like, a ripped-out monster skull that still holds powers.

Not too sure what to do with the Chainsaw, though. What would be reasonably low-tech enough to hack stuff up? My first impression would be a machete, but the Powerslave machete has been used to death.

>>2789118
>Play Doom64 if you haven't
ill just leave this here

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/umadvxy27hmnyf4/AACParfSDpMUPdwACGJSvOgYa?dl=0

>>2789139
a scythe. i've never heard of a doom weapon mod with a scythe.