/vr/ - Retro Games

===NEWS===

[10-25] Anon map release: bland.wad
>>2758204
http://www.mediafire.com/download/glezdk2k2y5e02n/bland.wad

[10-23] Doom 4 alpha title screen music
https://youtu.be/yZIzYscrRBE

[10-22] BDv21 starter pack, all 150MB+ of it
http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=starterpacktestoct21.wad
http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=bdtest21octtestnew.pk3

[10-22] Doom 4 alpha footage (edited highlights, plus marketing drivel. skip to 0:59)
https://youtu.be/JTfe7V-_3r0?t=59s

[10-22] Anon map release: Iceplant2
>>2752451
https://www.mediafire.com/?zeri83o644zo2uz

[10-21] Quake Live beta goes public.
http://esreality.com/post/2778188/ql-steam-exclusive-beta-goes-public/

[10-21] Doom 4 Closed Alpha leaked weapon screenshots
http://www.dsogaming.com/screenshot-news/doom-closed-alpha-leaked-images-show-all-available-closed-alpha-weapons/

[10-21] Doom palette converted to 3DLUTs in 3DL and CUBE format for Photoshop etc
>>2750658
https://www.sendspace.com/file/1l7zas

[10-21] Battlefield 2142 SFX
>>2750473
https://www.sendspace.com/file/dm9d7i

[10-21] Doom Retro v1.9 released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/75097-doom-retro-v1-9-released/

[10-20] Doom 4 Closed Alpha about to begin
http://doom.com/en-us/alpha

[10-20] Alien Breed 3D Total Conversion (WIP)
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=49786

[10-16] The /newstuff Chronicles #485
https://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4506

[10-15] Quake Live Q&A / developer interview
http://esreality.com/post/2776781/ql-steam-switch-q-a-with-syncerror/

[10-12] SUAB v0.4 released
https://youtu.be/T79clHGoV4I

[10-04] Anon map release: "i spent 2 hours making a short map"
>>2718745
https://www.mediafire.com/?p0196ndn2pl6lwb

[10-02] The /newstuff Chronicles #484
https://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4498

[09-26] Quake Live beta almost complete - keys available
>>2703896
https://twitter.com/SyncError/status/646877259534499841

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>life is consumed by doom

feel bad for you guys tbqh fam
I could see if it was an mmo or something but damn son.

>>2761490
you could say it's condoomed

>>2761490
the size of the game world created by the union of all user-made Doom levels is, i imagine, far bigger than any MMO world.

either way, yes, you can spend your life playing doom and never run out of new maps to explore.

and the best part is, unlike an MMO, it's entirely free from corporate influence and meddling.

>>2761518
>>2761496

A Doom MMO would be.. interesting.

>>2761490
I wouldn't want it any other way.

>>2761518
>and the best part is, unlike an MMO, it's entirely free from corporate influence and meddling.
Then who was server?

>>2761490
>mmo
kill yourself

i mean it

what a way to tip off an otherwise average at best experience, this still doesn't fail to make me laugh a second time around damn

also holy shit the attack chances for many monsters in smooth doom need to be nerfed the fuck out, some cacos and cybies can shoot for literally fucking forever

>>2761695
I thought SD didn't change anything but graphics

[10-22] BDv21 starter pack, all 150MB+ of it

New brutal doom? What's so special about this "starter pack"?

>>2761697
With the way animations work in Doom, it's set up so enemy attacks are tied to a certain animation frame - I think the animation frame itself triggers the attack. As smooth doom adds more frames of animation, it could easily have fucked up the way enemies behave

>>2761708
I thought they fixed that a good while ago, imps were broken

>>2761702
it seems like the starter pack is a loose remake of the original game(s), but with added zdoom map features, and rebalanced for the mod

>>2761689
Back to reddit with you

I mean it.

>>2761702
>What's so special about this "starter pack"?

They're a set of maps "better than the official maps" designed specifically for Brutal Doom.

For all of Mark's dumbassery, he's a pretty decent mapper when he puts his mind to it. I don't think he really put his mind to it with this, though, he's forcing himself pretty hard and it shows quite a lot in the maps.

>>2761697
gifty explicitly states in the SD project page on the forums that the goal of the mod is a perfect 1:1 reproduction of doom even though small fuckups do tend to squeeze through from time to time

keep in mind though all decorate files for all monsters are made from scratch to mimic vanilla behavior as much as possible, not pitch perfect on-point reproductions

there have been many monster-related behavior issues reported over time as well, such as lost souls being extremely aggressive and most ticrates just being fucked with in general, so non-vanilla behavior is to be expected to some extent

that said really fucking hope it gets updated soon, i sent some doom 64 PR and BFG smooth sprites to gifty not long ago and i just hope he gives out signs of not being dead later this week ffs

>>2761718
don't you wish you could block and downvote me :^)

>>2761718
back at ya.

>>2761490
>posting this on a doom thread
LOW QUALITY BAIT

Hey. I'm the guy that posted this remix the other day: http://picosong.com/6cBs/
Since a ton of you seemed to like it, even if it was my very first attempt at any sort of remix, I guess I'll make some more for you some time in the future.
It was pretty fun to slap together, so I'm gonna do one final mix of it, to add in, or change any last things.
Any thing else you could want added to it, or changed?
Oh, I'm also plopping on a shitty little name just for reference.

>>2761740
What would be a rock-solid cosmetic improvement?

I'm thinking these two together...

https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/62403-

https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1365189

>>2761780
I'm all in for a remake of Doom 64's stats screen or the finale (monster cast call)

also that edit was pretty bitchin, I liked it a bit more than the original, even though it's just sped up a bit.

it still makes me happy that we're getting fucking mick gordon doing the OST (which judging by what little snippets we've seen so far sounds pretty fucking amazing) and not some nobody doing some orchestral garbage of sorts.

that said I hope we get some proper ambience in Doom 4 since metal is mostly confirmed. I'm hoping for some PSX-esque eerie stuff, at least to a certain extent.

>>2761725
it's not all his own work - e.g. map02/03 are based on old Freedoom maps. i made parts of map02 many years ago, it was fun to see it again, tuned up.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=48639&p=835762#p835762

Do you get banned for this sort of thing over at doomworld?

>>2761886
>http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=48639&p=835762#p835762

Wild Faggot is not a mod in Doomworld, so, no.

>>2761886
assuming "this sort of thing" means "making tasteless jokes about events in recent memory in which lots of people die", no -- consider the case of the UAC Ultra II release thread, for which 40oz's account suffered no lasting consequences.

it seems clear here the ban reason is spurious. he says, "if that's how you really feel, get off this forum", yet the very next paragraph begins, "but seriously," showing the poster does not, in fact, really feel that way.

in my view, worthy of a warning at best. but perhaps there's more to the story i don't know; the banned poster has a history of such incidents, or the moderator has a sore spot, perhaps he lost a relative on 9/11 (although that's letting his personal feelings cloud his judgement, making his moderation decision very questionable)

>>2761886
>Gets banned for a clearly sarcastic post
Jesus fucking Christ.
Sometimes I wish I could just reach through the screen and punch WildWeasel in his fucking face.

>>2761929
>UAC Ultra II
holy shit please tell me this exists

Playing through Doom on the ps1. I really like this port for it's music and lighting effects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TYMI6gD19Y

>>2761930
His mods are pretty alright, but he sure does get high&mighty over fucking nothing on the regular

>>2761886
wow this was total shit. almost as much as the "joke" itself.

I however choose to laugh at the thought that the thread was helled because the wad itself was a threat against mankind.

Both are pretty damn awful, but which is worst?
DoomWorld, or the ZDoom Forums?

>>2761783
smooth doom is pretty fucking solid, but it would become even better if the monsters actually worked and behaved exacly like their vanilla counterparts

but such is the end result when you try to put additional sprites on anything, it either ends up looking pretty awkward in most cases (such as is the case with smooth doom's monsters namely) or you end up with a certain number of incongruities that shouldn't be there

not commenting on any of the weapons since, and let's fucking say it now, all the weapons in smooth doom are fucking godtier goodness and you'd have to be a earthbound-boss tier shitlord to say otherwise

Going Down should get it's Cacoward revoked just for Map 07.

>>2761886
>>2761913
>>2761929
>>2761930
>>2761983
>>2762010
>they have no clue that RV007 is unironically a ultranationalistic conspiracy theorist

maybe it's a good thing you're left in the dark

>>2761725
>For all of Mark's dumbassery, he's a pretty decent mapper when he puts his mind to it.
I'll agree on this, Dead Cargo was a good submission for 200 Minutes of /vr/, I'd love to see him make a Vanilla or Boom styled episode for Doom 1, just to see what else he can do with just some basics.

I honestly like his maps more than his gameplay mods, he should dabble more in that every now and then.

>>2762047
>all the weapons in smooth doom are fucking godtier goodness and you'd have to be a earthbound-boss tier shitlord to say otherwise
I don't like that they changed the chaingun's minimum 2-cycle behavior when you tap fire.

>>2761886
>posts /b/ and/or /pol/ tier shit in a thread about an important subject
>has been on the mod's nerves before
You guys forget not all places are like 4chan,.

>>2761480
>Doom 1 having "great variety"
>Doom 1 having more notable variety than Doom 2

>>2762172
enemy variety of course not
enemy placement variety absolutely
Are there any mods out there that mash classic doom 1 level design and doom 2 content? doom 2 they way id did it comes to mind for me that's more just "doom 2 level design done better"

>>2762098
It's not their fault that they just wanted to have DemonCon in there.

>>2762184
>enemy placement variety absolutely
Disagree. The mapping, enemy placement, and pretty much everything is more varied in Doom 2, for better or worse. Even if you think Doom 2 sucks this seems hard to deny, the style of one level vs another can be much more drastic precisely because it's more uneven and weird.

>>2762098
What's so bad about it? It was too hard for me on UV, but I'm not a great player, and didn't seem outlandish in any measure compared to many difficult megawads...
>>2762193
I feel like I missed a joke, maybe.

>>2762184
while on that
>DT2WID literally has brown textures everywhere
>all levels look like shit
was this done deliberately

>>2762198
I just finished DT2WID and I didn't notice brown textures too much except for maybe the shipyard level and some of the final levels. What confused me is the black tile texture on the last hell levels. What were they trying to do there?
>>2762194
I think it's doom 2's larger amount of big open levels that give the sameness vibe to me.

>>2762198
Are you sure you're not just used to wads with custom textures? Play M03-M06 in original Doom 2 and look at how many brown and metal walls there are.

>>2762171

There's also the fact that RV-007 is legit a wackjob and inserts crazy shit into his mods.
I don't mean "crazy shit" as in "crazy fun" or "crazy bad", I mean the dude writes entire fucking essays about conspiracy shit and stuffs in government reports and newspaper clippings as well.
Also his mods are shit, but that's not exactly groundbreaking news.

If you wanna complain about someone getting banned, sure, whatever, but RV isn't exactly a sympathetic martyr.

>>2762040
whichever one you post in.

>>2761490

>>2762224
>all that shit
Fucking hell.

And I thought I'd be weird for thinking about sneaking in little Pro-2A snippets here and there in decorate code I write.

>>2762212
while I don't necessarily agree with the "Doom II was literal shit everywhere" meme (even though i admit it does stand out among other colors in some levels) i cant help but think this was done knowingly to appease those who misremember it entirely

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoTJwB4UIfs

I really like this remix. And this music. Map 29 was awesome.

>>2762197
It's not too bad of a map, but there needs to be less things you can trip on, and more cover.
In a map filled with, and surrounded by projectile monsters, you need both clear running space for strafing, and a few areas to hide from projectiles.

alright Ill say it out loud, doom forever zdoom port when

the fact that it's EDGE only rustles my jammonas something fierce

it's just so fucking awkward

I came here to say that e1m7 of HYMN was possibly the worst map I've ever completed. Whoever made that should feel ashamed.

btsx looks good in vanilla doom aspect ratio, who knew?

>>2762518
I don't remember monitors being this tiny when Doom was out.

>>2762554
They weren't, that is just a 4:3 aspect ratio probably pixel doubled for old VGA. Took in chocolate-doom with vanilla devparm style screenshot feature, saved to pcx and converted to png.

>>2762554
Here you go m9

>>2762565
Did someone turn on low quality mode?

This some cool shit.

WAD is 1024 Claustrophobia, which I already like more than Congestion 2014 from the first few levels.

>>2762606
that snapshot faintly reminds of unholy realms for some reason

must be the green contrasting with the grayish brown brick texture in certain parts

>>2762198

Why do you think it's called D2TWID you berk

>>2761959
it does exist but i think it was only a demo, nothing like a full release. there were only a few maps. i don't have a link for it, sorry.
>>2762108
>>2762171
>>2762224
i did wonder if there was history i had missed.
>>2762554
much lower dpi. 14" CRT, with screen about 11"x8¼" gives horizontally ~29 and vertically ~24 dpi
>>2762684
all these modern megawads use the same damn texture set. usually some subset of what is now known as cc4-tex, but that was just a compilation of sets that were already becoming overused when cc3 was completed.

>>2762212
map03 is brown and metal.
map04 is green and grey.
map05 is brown and grey bricks.
map06 is mostly metal with a bit of grass.

you may have something of a point but it's not as monochromatic as you remember, especially not map04.

>>2762445
this is how diehard prboom users (well, one at least, me) feel when forced to use zdoom by lazy or ignorant mappers.

So how do we fix this?

>>2762989

rename it.

>>2762990
you mean like how the Doom movie would be considerably better if it were not called «Doom» but something like «Genetic Mutants Go Nuts On Mars» ?

>>2763021

Exactly.

>>2763021
The Doom movie was shit even if it wasn't called Doom.

I'm attempting to put together an Unreal texture replacement pack like that "Hexen2 disguise for Doom2" in my spare time, and the vagueness of a lot of Doom 2's textures leads to weird visuals based on how people use them... I'm going to have an issue that Unreal's textures are really quite dark, and I'm tossing up on vanilla/boom compatibility, especially when I want some flats to take up more than 64x64 space.

>>2763028
i enjoy terrible cliche-ridden sci-fi/fantasy/action movies, so i can't agree with you. case in point: the working title of one of my old maps was Sector 14, after a really cringeworthy line in AvP: "but there's nothing in sector 14"..."there is now!"

>>2763029
Can't wait for it.

>>2763029
so basically a reskin? that's cool i guess. yeah you won't get 100% match because of the weird ways people use textures, freedoom has the same problem, every so often someone will moan that its textures don't match those of doom2 sufficiently well for some pwad to look right. the most common cause for complaint being the warning stripes on e.g. the gray cement textures.

are you also planning to release the unreal textures with unique names (not replacing existing textures) so they can be used as a pack for mappers? that would be great

>>2763060
Yeah, a reskin. I wasn't planning on releasing a separate pack, as a lot of the textures have been edited and hacked up to more closely match the Doom 2 textures they're replacing, and I thought people would want the original textures.
(Also I am new to texture stuff, at the moment just exploiting Zdoom's flexibility in allowing you to use files that aren't properly set up)

On a side note, fuck the vague-as-hell ASHWALL and ZIMMER textures and their ability to be used anywhere.

>>2763103
>On a side note, fuck the vague-as-hell ASHWALL and ZIMMER textures and their ability to be used anywhere.
haha, i set ashwall3 as the default texture in the editor because it goes anywhere and you hardly have to align it

>>2763035
Ghosts Of Mars is better in almost every way and feels more like Doom than the Doom movie

Anyone got a good tutorial on how to install Timidity++ that isn't 10 years old?

>>2763148
i thought Event Horizon was closer to a Doom movie than the actual one. but that opinion is probably just as much of a cliche.

i've not heard of Ghosts of Mars but i will take your recommendation, thank you.

what the fuck

>>2763148
I was thinking of posting Ghost of Mars, but then I thought that no one would know what I'm talking about. It's good to know another anon knows what's up.

>that scene where they go for the train
>train isn't showing up on time
>"What're we gonna do?"
>"Plan B."
>"What's plan B?"
>cue heavy metal music as they start just blowing everything away

It's not a movie you watch for the plot, but it's so satisfying.

>>2763197
Timidity itself is pretty old.
Its all about FluidSynth or BASSMIDI now.

>>2760638
>keptyawaitinghuh.png
so tspmk2 confirmed Halloween release then?

Is there any doom mods that have a hub level?

>>2763330

I like you, anon. You're optimistic.

I love Doom, but I absolutely cannot into Heretic. Am I alone in this?

>>2763405
I have more trouble getting into Hexen honestly

>>2763405

Not really. Liking one iwad and not liking another is very common.
I fucking hate Strife with every possible ounce of hate I can muster.

Fuck, it is monotoneous as hell to build something that looks like ship engine.

>>2763405
heretic is pretty bullshitty to be honest
huge damage randomization, silly enemies...
it still have some cool shit
have you tried playing it with Wrath Of Cronos?

>>2763457
>Wrath Of Cronos

Get out

>>2763405
>>2763415
i love all four doom iwads and am apathetically indifferent to all the others to the extent of never even having bothered to try them

Hey I've been away from Doom for like 6 months and with most other vidya being disappointing I'm looking to build up my Doom folder again. Any essential good megawads come out recently

>>2762857
Well, I don't think D2tWID is as monochromatic as that anon was claiming, either. I thought D2tWID used color and contrast quite well given only the Doom 2 textures.

>>2763405
It looks me a long time to get into Heretic. Playing the maps from a wand start helped a lot--enemies soak up more hits than Doom so it becomes more about resource management than reflexes. Also, I began to appreciate how Heretic's maps are more concept-based than Doom's. They still aren't very realistic, but it's cool to see something like E2M4: The Ice Grotto where they had an idea and stuck to it. I also really like Heretic's use of "house"-style architecture in maps like E1M4.

>>2763452
Can see in-game screenshot?

Do anons like STRAIN? I think its cool.

>>2763405
I haven't really given Heretic a good chance, but I recall the gameplay felt much like Doom.

Hexen, on the other hand, is an abysmal gorefest and I don't understand what some people see in it, the combat is boring as hell, the puzzles are obtuse and annoying, and everything goes on for way too long.

I appreciate all the cool stuff that's been used to develop sourceports with, but the game just is NOT FUN.

>>2763572
Here you go.

And the paddlewheel drive-ish thing.

>>2763695
thanks, I like it

>>2763405
I like Heretic more than doom but I just wish it got some fixes. Weapons in Heretic feel like shit and are in desperate need of a touch up, a la something smooth doom-ish. I mainly just prefer the level design and enemy variety, Doom 1 was a lot of corridors and Doom 2 was a lot of open areas, Heretic seems to strike a balance between it.
>>2763619
>>2763408
Try it with Hexercise and maybe Wrath of Cronos. It makes the game a lot easier, but the game was already pretty easy, so who cares. If there was a way to keep the WoC enemy, weapon, and class variants while removing the RPG shit, I would recommend that to.

>>2761481
Quake Live final update is live.
http://steamcommunity.com/games/282440/announcements/detail/101688990770553028

Steam workshop, LAN, and dedicated servers are all supported now. Subscriptions dropped, but the game now costs 10$.

Also the Doom 4 alpha music link is dead.

>>2763197
Try BASSMIDI instead, it's easy as piss to set up and it's pretty decent.

>>2763619
I like Hexen combat, and... actually I like almost everything except the obtuse at best "puzzle" design and constant but near meaningless backtracking.

Combat felt great for its time, game looked good, had some of the first destructable environments in a video game... there's a lot to like, shame it's covered by backtracking to go fuck yourselfville over and over and over

>>2763984
So practically speaking, it's now effectively a more updated Quake 3?

What happens if QL is already in my Steam library, do I still have to pay for it?

just tried vupiter and it was pretty eh

was it ever finished though??

Person messing with Unreal textures again, how large a wall texture does vanilla Doom support? I've looked around and couldn't find a clear answer, it's unclear if 128 or 256 is the maximum height, and if width is 256 or infinite.

>>2763041
Hope I don't take too long, then. Thanks though.

>>2763982
>Try it with Hexercise and maybe Wrath of Cronos. It makes the game a lot easier
It's not that the combat is particularly hard, it's just tedious and annoying.

You're still left with boring as fuck levels even if you fix combat.

>>2764009
Nope, it's free if you have the game on steam already.
If you played the standalone before this, contact support and they give you a key for the game.

>>2764032

What about the gibs? I don't see them in the DLC page yet.

... so I'm back fresh from finishing Doom 64.

Jesus fuck that game is a masterpiece from start to end I swear to God.

>>2764021
I never thought the levels were too bad, why didn't you like them? Castle of Grief is pretty generic, but everything else is pretty good.

How do you copy levels in Doombuilder?
As in telling it to take a map from a WAD and to copy it into your wad, so you can edit it without changing the original.

>>2764150
>why didn't you like them?
Endless switch hunting.
Endless key hunting.
Across multiple levels in a hub, with no real intuitive way of making progress beyond hitting a switch and being told basically "something happened".

Trudging about for hours and hours in one hub, now, thankfully, I'd have finished most monsters the first time trudging through most parts of the central hub, but on the other hand, that means there's nothing else to do while looking around for what the hell you're meant to be doing.

I really like the way maps look in Hexen, they're beautiful (it has great aesthetics and design, great music and sound design, etc), good use of textures, nice detailing, very moody, but 80% of the game is spent looking for a key, a switch, a door, a place where your key goes, whatever the fuck that switch just did, etc.

If someone made a megawad for Hexen with the maps styled after Doom, that'd be kickass with Hexercise.

And a mod to completely replace the Centaurs, because fuck them. Yes, yes, I know, flechettes, I still hate them.

>>2764182
Open the map, in the Map Options change its name to something that won't overwrite your own maps, and use "File - Save Map Into". If you don't want to put it in your wad yet, you can also use "Save Map Into" to save the map by itself as a separate wad.

>>2763984
I probably played more Quake Live today than I have in the past 6 months combined.

It's a shame this activity spike wont last.

>>2764032
Alright, just tried it. Game starts up fine but the mouse doesn't work properly on the menus. What in the actual fuck?

>>2762098
Hellbound should have its runnerup revoked for being boring as fuck 90% of the time.

>>2764250
Is your mouse plugged in?

>>2764252
>90%

your reply

>>2764245
Depends where you live really.
It won't drop below 650 players daily, that's for sure.

>>2764253
Well yeah, much unlike those who thought Doom never had mouselook initially.

Like, I hover over the different elements, click, and nothing fucking happens, cursor changes from the hand to the standard pointer. Not even the exit button works, Alt-F4 works as always though.

>>2764268
I live in North America. Quake is dead as shit here.

>>2764283
Why don't us Amerifats enjoy skill based shooters anymore? It's all cawadooty and the occasional battlefielder, I miss UT03/Q3 style games (yes I'm aware they both still exist, but like, NO development has happened for them or the like recently, unless you count unreal engine 4's free version of UT, which is underpopulated already).

>>2764283
I have a friend in California that says he still finds games easily.
Try pickup games, maybe?
>>2764298
>Why don't us Amerifats enjoy skill based shooters anymore?
Cuz you have choices now, and newer games have come out.
UT4 is doing fine for a pre alpha.

>>2764298
There's also Reflex and FRAGLIKEITS'99(TM).
But they are shit and dead as well.

It is a shame arena fps are so dead here.

>>2764307
>Try pickup games, maybe?
CPM pickups are completely dead in north america (-CPMPickupBot- Lastgame 67d 4h 20m 53s ago: CTF), and the quake live pickup community here is filled with some of the worst people I've ever had the displeasure of playing video games with.

>>2764309
Reflex's dead on NA, yeah.
FRAGLIKEITS'99(even though we are a clone of a game from 2004)™ is just dead. They got fucked by the new UT. A shame, the devs put some nice artwork in the game.

Arena shooters just won't come back, not like people want them to. Halo will succed like always, but if UT fails that's it for classic AFPS on PC.

>>2764328
M-maybe D44M will be good.
R-right?

>>2764330

Well, the multiplayer is slow, really brown, unbalanced and a little uninspired. Weapon feedback is pretty wimpy, and none of the original Id guys are behind it.

Nah it'll be fine.

The one thing I really like about Doom 4 and what several modern shooters have been doing recently though is putting grenades and other tools on a cooldown system, effectively giving the player unlimited grenades, just with a wait time between use, I think that'd work pretty well in a mod

>>2764330
I think it will be okay.
But that's kinda what I meant by "not like people want them to".

>>2764335
It's a little more halo than call of duty than quake/doom, but I'll take halo over cawadoody. Yeah I'd rather it be a fast paced arena shooter also, but a halo rip on PC? Could be worse (also could be better, but that's not the point)

I still can't grasp what the hell this attack needs, the spray of smaller balls are fine but I'm not happy with the big ball

Right now it just explodes on contact with all monsters, I could give it the ability to rip and then explode violently after travelling a set distance, that way you can still get the most out of the melee attack

I have no idea where the fuck that archvile went after I hit it.

I feel like I need to make the secondary fire a little more impact as well.

How would one go about making a vaporwave styled level?

I can only think of wide spaces in 80s neon colors (primarily pink and teal) with roman structures while slowed down Doom music plays in the background.

>>2764384
I suggest that you should remove the repulsion in the projectiles, as in sending enemies away with explosions and make melee be the only thing that homeruns enemies away Seriously, the archvile literally disappeared after that hit, and maybe increase the cost of the shots because 30 cells for something that can kill a Cyberdemon in 4 shots (2 being direct shots, the other just being the small ripping balls, which should also not be rippers for boss enemies)

Maybe reduce the wind-up because the animation looks stiff in my opinion, or make the animation be less stiff if you're keeping the same wind-up

>>2764391
>vaporwave style level
you could try a mordeth styled one.

;^°

>>2764369
What's on people's minds from what I've seen is why didn't they go full Halo and have actual weapon pickups when Halo MP borrows heavily from arena fps in the first place.

>>2764398
Oh you.

So, any word on the gibs dlc for quake live?

>>2764018
For patches, height was 128 and width was 256 if i remember correctly. You can paste different patches together in the TEXTURE1 Lump to make wider textures. That's what they did for custom skies and for the marble wall.

>>2764398
>>2764391
Try out "My soul trapped in a Windows 98 Computer". That's Doom vaporwave as fuck.

>>2764265
I am being genuine. I only liked around 3 maps total.

>>2764436
Have you tried playing it with Project MSX?
It makes it less of a chore because of more mobility and you can sequence break the hell out of Map 12

>>2764430
This?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or6KEB6tfoo

Not really hitting MUH AESTHETICS. I would not use any texture from Doom or Doom 2, except maybe for a level that consists of several DOS games jumbled together.

>>2763490
monument

>>2763984
>Also the Doom 4 alpha music link is dead.
Removed by user. Was expecting removed by copyright claim from corporate overlords. Maybe he got scared it'd get him banned from the beta? Who knows.

>>2764018
this is actually quite a complicated question, but, these days, assuming support for the deepsea tall patch hack, it's basically unlimited in both directions - cf the waterfall texture in hell ground, or DARKNESS in rush.wad.

however if possible you should restrict to widths and heights of powers of two:

- boom based ports can tile non powers of two vertically, but oddly, zdoom cannot, last i checked.

- however most ports save for zdoom will not handle non power of two widths correctly. for example prboom will repeat the texture at the next smallest power of two (e.g. width 80 will repeat at 64).

i should really fix the last one, i'm pretty sure i know how.

>>2764298
funny you should say that because the only time there ever seems to be anyone on Odamex servers is during the evening in America, which is the middle of the night in Europe. i refuse to become nocturnal again.

>>2764309
I hope I don't drop my spaghetti by asking this but what about team fortress 2?

there's the invasion update released this month and the gun mettle one sometime in july iirc, the game seems more active than ever

>>2764328
There's also the rumor of a new Quake, but in 4 fucking iterations the game barely changed, and it's likely that syncerror is on charge again like he was in Q4.
>>2764485
Arena shooter implies more than non-realism and projectile weapons, anon.
There is an argument to be made, however, that things like TF2 and Overwatch are the natural evolution of the genre.

>>2764474 (me)
>but oddly, zdoom cannot, last i checked
it seems my information is out of date!

90x72 and 72x90 hexagon tile test wad:
http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=uz12ki

>>2764314
>the quake live pickup community here is filled with some of the worst people I've ever had the displeasure of playing video games with
What makes you say this? Just wondering. Quake Live is pretty much the only game I've been playing lately and the players don't seem that bad. The community is small, but for the most part they seem okay to me. Undoubtedly better to talk to than most people I came across when I was into online console gaming.

>>2764430
If I put two patches of 128x256 together to make a 256x256 texture, though? I have to try it out, I'm doubtful as the Icon of Sin is made up of multiple walls with 256x128 sections. (unless they weren't aware they could have taller textures or something)

>>2764474
>>2764513
These are the textures from Unreal, so they'll definitely be in powers of two. The question was about vanilla Doom, though. If vanilla Doom can't handle 256x256 I guess I'll have to work around it, or just step it up to "Boom compatible".

>>2764531
two patches of 256x128*

v0.4a of CottonSwab is offically released. Check your local thread for a copy.

>>2764558
i don't seem to have a local thread, could you clarify your meaning please? i'm sorry if i'm missing a joke

>>2763984
so, are they forcing you to use steam now or can you still use a regular launcher+QL account?

>>2764651
Cottonswab = Suab, aka "Shut up and Bleed", which is a D+ Mod for Zdoom.

This mod's Verson 0.4a release has been... well, released on both Zandronum's and Zdoom's forums.

This is iSpook, the guy who made the Zdoom-friendly port of "Shut up and bleed", and I was just trying to tip off those who like said mod, sorry.

>>2764683
oh, right. i don't follow the zd/z& forums and i didn't know you'd renamed it. i thought cottonsuab was someone else's fork.

>>2764686
Nah, just me being slly.

>>2764534
>two patches of 256x128*
unfortunately...

updated test wad:
http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=hk17vd

>>2764384
What level wad is that?

>>2764739

Scythe, level 24 or 23

>>2764727
Damn.. seems fine in PrBoom though, so I guess I'll stick to that for now. Thank you very much for the information and test! the wad shows off the bad tiling pretty well. Now I just need to see if PrBoom supports large flats, and I'm set.

>>2764759
>Now I just need to see if PrBoom supports large flats, and I'm set.
it doesn't, sorry. not yet anyway.

>>2764384
perhaps make the circle energy effect sprite move forward like it's expanding forward

maybe even add a double helix particle trail to the main ball

>>2764774

I could probably make it move forward, that's not a bad idea.

I don't think I could pull off a helix effect though, I've never been good with visuals

>>2764769
Yeah, I guess I have to shrink them...a bit depressing.

>>2764384
>I have no idea where the fuck that archvile went after I hit it.
You must have hit it so hard it travelled through time.

>>2764793
You could just split it up into multiple flats, but i guess that'd be far too much work.

>>2764682
Steam only.

>>2764814
it wouldn't be a drop-in replacement for doom2 textures then

>>2764886
huh? I thought this was a flat, not a texture?

>>2764902
yes, sorry. flat.

my point was yes you can split a 128x128 flat into 4 64x64 flats, but he seems to be making a reskin texture wad that replaces existing textures with approximate equivalents from unreal, thus not needing maps specially made for the texture set.

It's Romero's birthday today.
https://twitter.com/br/status/659357340316119040

Anyone know the wad being played in this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHNakk1oM7g

>>2764920
1994TU map30

Are there any good mappacks set on Earth?

>>2764910
But wouldn't having them exceed 64x64 already make that not work?

>>2764946
tvr starts on earth for the first eleven maps. then moves to some alien world named utopia (and ends up in hell as usual)
>>2764947
i'm not sure i follow you

>>2764980
If the whole project is meant to simply replace doom 2 textures and flats, how exactly would 128x128 or 256x256 flats replacing 64x64 flats even work?

>>2764984
well, obviously you couldn't replace a 64x64 teleporter pad with something that didn't fit the same gap, you'd only get the top left corner of it.

but if you have some large area that's meant to tile, like grass or water or lava or something, replacing the 64x64 flat tiled across it with a 128x128 tile won't make much difference. it might even look better.

>>2764946
>>2764980
Realm of Chaos also goes Mars->Earth->Hell i think.
still they're both vanilla wads and quite abstract, you're not exactly running around through highly realistic city streets

>>2761525
Wouldn't it basically need to be raiding dungeons? Like, maps made for 16 players in mind, and thus being huge levels that are overfilled with enemies, especially big enemies?

I basically imagine it being a more structured version of Invasion, probably limited by lives as well. Make some system where players have to revive (or be revived) when they die and if everyone is dead at once then it's game over.

As for gear/progression, I don't know what you'd do since to me, the notion of stuff-based progression is just a mindless borefest and isn't very doom-like.

>>2764920
holy shit I didn't even know this video had gameplay in it
I usually let it play on the background

>>2764946
going down
telekom
hadron
inflation bay

>>2764531
In the original engine, textures are hardcoded to wrap at 128 pixels and only 128 pixels. It was a pretty big blunder by Carmack to do it that way honestly - he could easily have had the renderer take the given texture's height into account, but he didn't bother for whatever reason.

>>2765246
Actually, taking an arbitrary height into account would have had the potential to slow the game down considerably since the inner loop would have had to do a ton of divides. But he could at least have had it wrap at any given power of two and let people make textures that were 32 or 256 or whatever high (although 256+ would have required rewriting how Doom's graphics were encoded, but that's not a huge deal really - just use two bytes for post offsets and lengths instead of one.)

>>2765246
tangential story: i removed the 128 case from R_DrawColumn and let it be handled by the any-power-of-two-height case and it actually sped it up

i imagine this is because it made the function smaller and fit into cache better but i don't know

when i extended R_DrawSpan recently to handle non-64x64 flats it definitely slowed down a bit, but not enough to care about

I didnt find any detailed tutorial about lighting in GZDoom builder. Can someone point me to one? It just needs to be darker with flickering light and such.

>>2764798
it'll show up next week at his work

>>2765317
>It just needs to be darker with flickering light and such.

Those are sector effects, you change the properties of each sector you want that lighting to occur in. The light level, ranging from 0 to 255 (I think in DB, the default is 128 or maybe 160). Then you can assign effects that act upon that. If you are using the UDMF map format, there are also linedef actions and Things you can place within a sector that give off GL Dynamic Lights (Point lights and flickering lights).

In addition, you can have a GLDEFS lump inside your WAD or PK3 so you can assign lights to Actors or change the brightness of a patch or flat (useful for ceiling lights).

>mordeth
am I the only one having a hard time trying to find this any fun

this is literally depressing for me

>>2764391
OH OH, LEMME GIVE IDEAS ABOUT THIS ONE.
I always imagined one using the Windows 98 Maze screensaver textures + Windows 3.11 textures.
Map could be a castle-like one (with outdoors and a nice Win98 themed skymap, perhaps the 98 clouds texture?) or a Wolf3D like one, would have some vaporwave-themed music, some sprite PCs on tables as decoration (using the Win98 icons) and other vaporwave-releated stuff
If you want i can give you some textures you can use and even more ideas.

Get into the halloween spirit

>>2765525
cool.

>>2763590
I've read your post and started it. First map in - so far so good.

>>2765337
>GLDEF
What is it?

>>2765521
>Map could be a castle-like one
Maybe like the house from the Mystery Screensaver in the Win98 Plus! pack? Gif related.

>>2765562
>>GLDEF
>What is it?
It is a plain text file containing definitions for OpenGL specific features in GZDoom, such as dynamic lights, skyboxes, shaders, etc.

You can figure out how to write one here:
http://zdoom.org/wiki/GLDEFS

And if you're going to be making GZDoom-specific maps, keep this wiki bookmarked and refer to it as needed.

>>2765571
Yeah, maybe.
Here's a handy image pack (+txt with my ideas) to give you some help.

https://d.maxfile.ro/ptcwelrdwc.7z

Im pretty sure i have a different idea in mind, but the result may look nice aswell

>>2764916
Happy late birthday, Romero.

>>2764783
How about making the big ball at the center attract demons and make them pass through the smaller ones with ripper effects, and make the big one explode at the end.

>>2765634>>2765571
Thanks!

>>2765660

I'm going for Zandybam compatibility, so sadly I can't do any negative push forces.

>>2764193
Yea I can't stand how hard centaurs break the flow of combat either, especially since the game throws around a lot of them.
I never got why people didn't like the switch stuff though. Maybe it's because most of the stuff I've just been able to remember, but usually getting a key in one level meant that there are gates to open with said key in all other levels but that one (seven portals, badlands, the second part of the seminary) castle of grief is a bit weird but I already mentioned that place is stupid, and necropolis is as straightforward as it gets.
I think there are wads for hexen that are straightforward, not doom straightforward, but it's not as much as a run around. I'll have to look for them.

>>2764384
I have an idea, but I have 0 understanding of weapon making, so this is probably impossible.
Just have a standard bat with no projectiles, and with enough damage to kill anything that isn't a cyber/spiderdemon. Give it a fairly large amount of knockback to.
Now for the tricky part. When you kill an enemy or 2, their corpses become projectiles as they get knocked back during their death animation, and they pierce through all enemies, doing about half damage as the initial hit, and traveling as far as the time to complete their death animation allows them.

>>2765837

It's possible, and fairly easy. BUT

It'd require custom monsters responding to custom damage types, and I'm not changing monsters here

>>2765838
Is it possible to create an invisible projectile that spawns when an enemy is killed with the bat, and just follows the sprite until it stops moving?

>>2765843

That'd require custom enemies too anon, otherwise monsters would be turning into OTHER monsters

>>2765850
I don't get how that works, but again I don't know shit, so I'll just let be.

how do i get up there?

So i've got Demonsteele, Project MSX..
Anyone know any other game-alteration mods that have a focus on mobility and fast combat without going batshit insane or being based around their own map sets?

>>2765942

Burl Tumd, but even the authors admit it hasn't aged well.

>>2765942
metroid dreadnought
GMOTA (to some extent)
Guncaster

these spring to mind

I feel like I'm leaving some behind but I can't bring myself to remember their names for the life of me

Hypothetical Situation: Universal Studios, through some terrible system error, hired you to direct/write a new Doom movie. You can run with it, or turn it down.

If you run with it, how will you direct/write it?

If you turn it down, why?

>>2765991
turn it down, because it can't work.

>>2765991

Run with it. It can be done if anyone has a rudimentary knowledge of DOOM.

>>2765991
I'd run with it. Just write the story based on the bare-bones original, and flash it out.

R13 for Violence and Language (even though Doomguy only grunts

>>2765991
run with it
i'd probably make the protagonist a bit more vocal, with an AI inside the suit (said AI would be really basic during E1 but turn into a snarky bitch in hell because lol demontech)
i'd keep most of the movie in first person (maybe with a mugshot or the main actor somewhere)
a few private jokes here and there (the guy finding a carmack dogtag, maybe a dopefish hidden somewhere, stuff written in Keen's intergalactic alphabet, a demonic voice or two speaking in reverse, some computer showing infos on Tei Tanga...)
other than that, gore, gun porn, crazy shit

>>2765991
Just make it a first person movie [but not with turbo jittery realistic camera] that focuses on shooting and dodging everything at the same time. Maybe some chainsawing there but in a non-exessive way. No one liners, that belongs in duke nukem, leave the only form of voice acting be grunting and confirm orders from your UAC overlord or whatever AI that is in phobos/deimos guiding doomguy.

>>2766031
>said AI would be really basic during E1 but turn into a snarky bitch in hell because lol demontech
>implying it doesnt become corrupted and tell the protagonist to do bad things like jump into a blood of boiling river or open the door with a baron of hell behind it
It would get snarky in Doom II.

I like the rest of your ideas, though.

>>2766039
>>2766031
>>2766023

Sorry but your versions would be like ten times shittier than the actual movie. You would all be punished from Hollywood forever, and your imbd biography will just say "Worse than Uwe Boll".

>>2766043
why tho

>>2763405
Doom community has always had its share of people that don't like Heretic, even in the 90's. So you're far from being alone.

>>2766039
Sounds good already. The occasional yes and no added to Doomguy"s vocabulary of grunts and taunting laughs would be good.

>>2766039
This idea sounds like you just want the movie to be someone playing the game.

>>2766057
>>2766057
Not him, but that's close to what I want.

I want it to be more flashed out though, maybe involve Nazis somehow for a Wolfenstein tie-in.

>>2766048
Because videogames are not movies, and to make a movie about a videogame, unless it's a RPG, it can only be inspired on it, you can't make a literal translation. The first Resident Evil movie and Silent Hill are the "best" game to movie adaptation ever made, because they dont try to make a 1:1 copy of the game, they just build something over the game's lore. Doom had the potential to be a good movie. They had a nice crew, the plot wasn't that bad (heh just your average Aliens clone, but Doom was suppoed to be an Aliens game anyway, so whatever), their only fault was to shit on the lore and make vampire alien zombies instead of demons from hell, and the extremely poorly directed action sequences (the very same sequences would have been great if filmed by a competent director) Andrzej Bartkowiak was a shitty director that already had directed shitty action movies with shitty action sequences, so, everyone saw it coming.
But even with Andrej being an incompetent director, don't think your childish scripts would be better than his. It would take a fucking James Cameron to make a good Doom movie, and even so, he would turn it down because he wouldn't want to stain his career with an Aliens clone.

>>2766080
>but Doom was suppoed to be an Aliens game anyway

Err, no. 20th century Fox asked them to make an Aliens game, and after a short discussion, id software declined. Doom was already in alpha when this happened, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKg85-TXY5w&feature=youtu.be&t=20m18s

>>2765991
I'd take it, and have a bigger focus on biblical demons and the hell portion of doom rather than they dark metallic corridors and alien-like demons the doom movie was like. Probably would just adapt the plot of Doom II into a movie, and give it a very hellish landscape.

>>2766137
Me too. I want the Doom monster to feel truly demonic.

>imps are what happen to humans exposed to hell fire
>zombies are soulless shells that only know how to feed
>the walls of flesh scream
>revenants have no visible muscles or skin, and are powered by lol hell magik
>archviles very existence

If a moral is necessary for a Doom movie, make it that even in the face of the Devil himself, you fight. Pick up that shotgun and fight.

>>>/wsg/808230

I think I'm finally satisfied with the sounds of this thing, just needs a few more tweaks for the secondary fire

Did they nerf Ultra-Violence in the Doom 3 BFG Edition version of Doom 2?

I've been playing through it and on Circle of Death I'm pretty sure there was a cyberdemon in the middle. The Factory doesn't have the spider mastermind in it either.

I started the game over twice because I thought I was playing in an easier difficulty. Can anyone else confirm this for me?

>>2765525
Nice.

>>2766303
I might be misremembering seeing as I hadn't played those maps in UV in literally forever but I'm having a really hard time recalling those instances you just mentioned and I don't have my pc handy to check out myself atm

>cyberdemon in map 11
like, right at the very beginning or in the exit switch room

>mastermind in map12
u wot

>>2766303
Both of those are co-op monsters only encounters.

>>2766314
Oh okay, thanks for clearing that up. I haven't played single-player Doom 2 in a long time.

>>2765991
turn it down because i have zero experience writing movie scripts and am too autistic to work with others.

does anybody remember, in the secret room with the bfg on map16, did there used to be a baron in there on doom2 versions < 1.9 ?

>>2766337
wasn't it a revenant?

>>2766339
there's two revenants in there on the way in, but i mean actually inside the tiny room with the bfg

>>2766339
I'm 99.9% certain it was a baron.

>>2766345
so you remember it as well? i'm not just making this up?

>>2766349
I have a faint reminisce of there actually being a rev on HMP but I can't corroborate that

I do know there was a Baron on UV that's for sure, I even recall dying in that part over and over while playing when I was younger and you just don't forget shit like that all of a sudden so that's a given

>>2766337
Just checked 1.666. Same grouping as 1.9, two revenants and three cacos. Not sure if there was a Doom 2 version prior to 1.666. If there was, I don't have it.

>>2766369
i had the Aug25 version that was declared pirated

>>2765127
What's in this image?

>>2765991
If I had to run with it?
3 acts
Act 1: Space Marines investigate phobos, leaving doomguy in the hangar. They find scientists who explain roughly what is happening
Act 2: Doomguy goes in to meet up with the last marine at the hell teleporter. marine gets killed by the barons, DG kills them and goes through teleporter
Act 3: Deimos Base embedded into Hell, finds out the demon master plan. Fights the cyberdemon and spider mastermind. Tries to close gateway to earth, but gets sucked in. (A bit of a cliffhanger ending.)

I doubt it would ever work well.

>every brutal doom deathmatch

>>2766839
Is there not an option to turn off taunts? Feel like that would improve things in a big way all by itself

>>2765571
>Mystery Screensaver in the Win98 Plus! pack
Oh fuck yes

>>2766847
i think they had to add it to zandronum

>>2766847
>>2766934

Burtl taunting is handled a different way than Zandronum's taunts.

Does classic Doom still have a future? It's crazy how it's still going strong.

>>2766960
for the foreseeable future? yes of course, it doesn't seem to be slowing down

>>2766960
There will always be mappers.
Gameplay mods are dwindling a little but the ones that are out are still getting updated

>>2767009
it's weird that. because zdoom seems to be developing at a far faster rate than the vanilla-compatible engines. yet it's the latter that get the most material made for them.

>>2767048
It's not too weird when you think about it.

There's a lot of Doom fans that love Doom for what it is, and maps cater to everyone still involved because it works for all engines unless you use specific features.

While gameplay mods need certain engines and have to worry about compatibility to begin with because most people are not interested in dehacked stuff.

>>2767048
maybe the fact that it's a relatively stable platform gives mappers confidence that anything they make won't be broken in a couple years

>>2761481

Hey. Wanna curl up and play a little bit of your favorite game tonight?

https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1517044

>>2767105
nicely timed, the clocks went back here last weekend, the dark nights are back, time to get in front of that warm fireside.

Are there any slaughterwads for Ultimate Doom?

>>2767079

It's lower barrier to entry as well.

>>2767105
>- Pistol frames are now mirrored.
NO
FUCK YOU

>>2767112
some of the maps in conCERNed get pretty hard/slaughtery. the last one E3M8 in particular.

i've not played the maybe-a-sequel-by-same-author Thy Flesh Turned Into A Draft-Excluder but i wouldn't be surprised if it had some of the same kind of thing in it.

there's also E4M5 of switcheroom. but i didn't find it very much fun, i can't recommend it.

>>2767116
spoilers asshole

https://youtu.be/0YoqfMFtO_4

so this is the power of edge

>>2767126
wow i bet Doug The Eagle just wishes he could have done that back in the day.

>>2761480
>TNT: Sniping hitscanners: The wad
>Plu "I REALLY FUCKING LOVE REVENANTS" tonia

>>2767168
Doom2 isn't anything like as full of monster closets as the comic implies

>>2765991
Run with it.
Make it almost silent, with protagonist narrating couple of times, audiologs from martian base in which he roams at the beginning and some weird dialogues with hellish entities later, when he is teleported to hell. To be honest, i like to think that maze-like structure of the martian base is caused by collision with Hell and its twisted logic - that can be a good material for them. The idea with AI inside the suit (think about Rogue Trooper comics) and/or some demon/lost soul sidekick would be a fine addition. Make it part-Frodo's journey through the Mordor, part-first third of the last Riddick movie. If the studio has some plans for the sequels - let there be a remnant base of some UAC expedition or part of a base dragged into hell, a tribe of anarchistic imps lead by outcast Archvile who refused to worship the Icon of sin, an orden of crusaders trapped in hell since medieval remaining knights of which went full illuminati and eventually became UAC, the possibilities are fucking endless. Bonus: never show a marine's face or show only his eyes behind the helmet visor. And make him actually use powerups to vary action scenes, make them look like ones from original.
Here it is, Doom: the screenplay.

>>2765525
Awesome!

>>2767105
Well fuck you.

https://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=6518

Somebody remind me why Decay isn't permabanned yet

>>2767180

If being stupid was a bannable offense, the Zandronum forums wouldn't exist.

what - if anything - would you replace the partial invisibility with?

restrictions: it is a mid tier powerup so it should not be as powerful an artifact as an invulnerability. but should be generally useful, not situational, like a radsuit, or goggles.

my answer: keep the invisibility effect, because it's cool. if asleep, monsters do not wake up if they see you. unlike zdoom this does not depend on your movement speed, i think that's stupid. if already awake, they can still sense where you are to know what direction to shuffle in, but on top of (or in place of) the accuracy reduction, it greatly reduces the chance of their firing at you at all, with increasing range outside of melee distance. implementation: reduce the chance of them making a successful line of sight check, with increasing distance, while the powerup is active.

>>2767180
the few times i've interacted with him (at previous odamex nitro events) he seemed like an affable chap. don't know what he's like outside of that context, though.

>>2767180
i think he's just 'aving a giggle there.

>>2767194
>get tired of dying constantly on Hideous Destructor
>close game
>open thread
>see this picture
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>2767175
Bonus for muh environmental storytelling in hell:
>a pack of curious firefly-like cacodemon minnows gather around some shiny glowing thingy at marine's armor when he is asleep and fly away scared when he wakes up
>an unusual grown-up one that just passes marine imperturbably minding his own business
>two pinky bulls fighting for territory
>a lone mancubus howls like elephant and listen to the howl at the distanse

>>2767194
i'd remplace it with some kind of "fuck this room" one-use weapon (like the demon hearts in shadow warrior)

>>2767238
i don't get it. but i've never played HD.
>>2767250
that's not a bad idea.

>>2767254
In HD, blurspheres are unmanned levitating demonic defense turrets that roam around at will without making noise

>>2767260
eww; are they still even powerups? can you pick them up and use them yourself? or are they entirely detrimental? (just like the ones in the regular game, someone will say)

>>2767105
>- Imps and zombies have a very rare chance of playing an Archvile's see sound on see.

>>2767271
spoilers asshole, the whole point of his mod is to discover these things by yourself

>>2767264
They don't replace partial invisibilities, they just use the sprites. They're real jerks, spawning at random, usually where cellpacks would be, and spitting wound-inflicting fireballs at you. When you shoot back, they explode violently. One spawning right in front of you can be a much faster death than you might've been prepared for.

>>2767285
ah, i see. sorry for the misunderstanding.

>>2767194
tome of power. obviously.

>>2767278
Stupid unfunny mods are made to be spoiled.

How's the mapping coming along anon?
I just finished the clone tubes for my meat lab.
What've you been working on?

>>2767383
Still working on my 5-level set wad. Have 4 almost ready, starting soon with MAP05. All vanilla comp, and succesfully added new sky.

Also, what do people here on /vr/ think is "bad taste" to add on the few first levels? I'm trying to make these levels hard, but not frustrating.

>>2767383
Whenever I try to make a new map I end up either getting bored or deciding it looks like shit after completing a room or two and I give up.

>>2767278

You're a riot at parties.

>>2767420
I feel the same way anon.

>>2767407
Nice.

Also, it probably depends on preference because, personally, I feel like if it's a short wad then longer beginning levels are fine since there's less levels overall. I also try to avoid overly complex run arounds with tiny passage ways so it's easier to remember what is where.

>>2767435
I do plan on making this a full megawad, making something like the 5-level episodes in Scythe 2. I have noticed I've made lots of small corridors.

Once I finish 5 levels I'll upload here so I can receive some feedback. Thanks for the advice.

>>2767105
Can you disable the view nudging for those that don't use mouselook, please?
Also, what does compat_allowmonsterautoaimonpain do? I can't find anything written about it and it's not normally accessible in the menu.

>>2767510

It doesn't do anything.

How's the Quake scene these days? I was looking at Strafe the other day and it got me in a mood to play some Quake 1 but I've never dipped into mods.

>>2767536
Singleplayer?
Nowhere near as alive as Doom's but they get shit released now and then.

OH GOD, WHAT THE FUCK
GOD, JESUS HELP ME

>>2767620
so brutal

>>2767620
Good luck mate

https://youtu.be/lc_COv56-KY

>>2767701

>e1m3
>one of the hardest levels in doom

>>2767701

>FIGURATIVELY sharing your video as soon as it's up

>>2767105

Bloody hell that was boring

>>2767790
the head
your joke

>>2767798
>>2767119
>>2767278

I genuinely have no idea what you're trying to achieve, but keep going, it's pretty amusing.

>>2767812
anon, I'm only>>2767798 and I wasn't implying anything in particular

are you okay

>>2765991
Prologue: Doomguy on Earth. He gets discharged, and is contracted by UAC Labs on Mars for a security job.
Act 1: A demonstration of new teleportation technology goes to hell. Doomguy dies during the evacuation, but drags himself from Hell. He enters the Phobos base through the hangar and makes his way to the laboratory. He fights two Barons of Hell here.

Act 2: Doomguy dies again in the laboratory, but is teleported to Deimos. He moves through the Deimos base and makes finds out that Deimos is in Hell itself. He fights the Cyberdemon. He jumps down into the inferno.

Act 3: Doomguy pushes his way through Hell, guided by heavenly voices telling him how to stop the invasion. He fights the Spider Mastermind, and is teleported back to Earth.

Epilogue: Doomguy finds out that the invasion already started on Earth, and that his pet rabbit is dead. He gears up and confronts a horde of Hellspawn in the ruins of a city. Roll credits.

>>2767701
>brutal doom

>>2767424
>parties
Fuck off normie.

>>2768006
hahahahaha
loser

>>2767407
>Also, what do people here on /vr/ think is "bad taste" to add on the few first levels? I'm trying to make these levels hard, but not frustrating.

just don't do anything too bullshitty, like dropping the player into a 128 square with three archviles.

make it so it's at the challenge level that feels right for you. if it's fun for you it's likely to be fun for others. after that listen to testers who are sure to say "this part was too hard/annoying". it's an iterative process.

>>2765830
The switch hunting isn't too bad once you've done it through once, but it's really tedious and annoying the first time through. It's a shame because the level designs are otherwise really cool, I prefer levels that actually look like locations instead of abstract stuff.

>>2768006
Dumb frog poster.

>>2768008
lmao chill out bro

dont take out on us just because ure are still on a hangover from last month because you took a shot of heineken with a wonka nerd

>>2768053
>shot of heineken with a wonka nerd
this is the best I've heard all week.

>>2767701
>https://youtu.be/lc_COv56-KY
the secret you missed was here, by the switch that raises the bridge to the secret exit. another secret-in-a-secret, so mysterious. ;)

also, i'm disappointed you shouted out a bunch of facebook groups and doomworld.com, but not /vr/. why don't you love us?

>>2767620

>>2767383
I'm at the part where I scrap what I've got and start over because I don't like the way it plays. Here's something I'll probably use in some form though.

>>2768085
that's cool. how do you do diminished lighting vertically? is it a gzdoom feature, a specially made texture, or lots of sectors?

>>2768093
You can do lots of sectors (doesn't look that great if you walk into it and is difficult to do) but I'm using transfer_brightness, which I believe is from ZDoom. Phobos: Anomaly Reborn did the same thing by straight up editing textures so that's an option, too. It's more work but you can make the gradient look really nice.

I want a gritty, quakelike texture pack, like NMN corp, that has textures that fit reasonably well together, unlike NMN corp. Does anyone have the texture pack that was released with UAC Ultra?

>>2768101
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/graphics/ultratex

is this it?

Battlefield
battle.zip (45 KB, 1995-06-16) - Sander Dee
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=2347

a single large map for doom2, fairly plain, but entertaining enough. you have a large open area with some buildings, a pit, and a slime lake. be careful of the free-roaming archvile.

i didn't find everything at first, in fact there are eight secrets and i didn't find a single one in my first recording attempt (well, second, after that archvile killed me, but i wasn't recording)

demo (135/161 26 2/12 0/8 11:13+18):
http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=lf26vk

>>2767841
>deleted while those other two get to live
lol nice 1 janny, promotions were there are due

OK lads
Halloween is almost upon us, and I have nothing better to do than smoke a shitload of weed and play Doom for hours.
What are some suitably spooky wads? Maps and gameplay mods equally welcome.

>>2768204
Hellcore 2 is a pretty good halloween wad.

>>2768203
perhaps the other fellow deleted his own post. i posted those requests to stop posting unmarked spoilers, i realize i was a little rude but otherwise i don't see what's rule-breaking about them.

>>2768204
1. Get Ultimate Doom Visor
2. Set the darkness in the UDV setting to Dark or Darker.
3. Get a Doom64 music WAD.
4. Play on Ultra-Violence.
5. Play with the flashlight on (press M).

There, that's actually pretty scary.

>>2768207
>that first level
Jesus man
I mean the wad looks great and all but it's barely even playable.

One of my favourite "unknown" games is called Spellcross, a turn based game of modern military versus forces of darkness.

I managed to find a way to gain the graphics from this game, and I thought about making a monster pack (maybe wad too?) from them. But being almost top-down and simple, do you think it's worth it?

Keep in mind all enemies have animations and 8 directions needed to complete.

>>2768220

This is where I'm ripping them from
Is it worth making new usable monsters out of these?

>>2768212
nah, I wouldn't fucking delete a "the joke, your head" post even if a mod were to address me for it because I know for a fact that's not shitposting in any way

but the fact that the guy just casually shuffles in,sees my post and wipes it off all while paying zero attention to those other two that I know for fucking experience are meant for nothing else than subtly shitting up the thread goes beyond me

i know i shouldn't even be bitching this loud over such a simple matter but this legit hit me in the most retarded way possible

>>2768221
you're saying they already have 8 rotations? why not, then? all ya gotta do is stick em in a wad n write sum dec'rate, y'all.

>>2768226

yes they do. But because of them being from a turn-based perspective, and the general scaling, i'm uncertain if this is going to work. I can use decorate for these, though a few replicated effectsw from ingame (causing fear/stuns etc)

>>2768225
>I know for fucking experience are meant for nothing else than subtly shitting up the thread
well, i'm telling you, i made those other two posts, and i had no ill intention other than to maybe get people to stop spoiling the mod before i'd had a chance to play it. so i'm sorry your post got deleted by mistake but please stop being so rude and presumptuous about my intentions, because your presumptions are wrong.

>>2768229
fair enough

id still like to hear out why precisely that happened unless the mod made a mistake and meant to delete another post though.

Man does NIN fit Doom like a glove. Every song just sounds like it could work in a Doom map.

>mixom
why do I feel sad and unsure about this

>>2768263
i don't know, why do you?

>>2768267
I didn't enjoy Doom 3 at all and just don't have any fond rememberances of it at all, and as such I'd really rather have them not reference anything related to it

>>2768216
This works pretty well tbh

>>2768270
oh right heh. i never played it so i missed the reference. thanks for explaining.

>>2768270
at all

>>2768276
http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Mixom
it's the people who shipped the chainsaws mistakenly

I think I will end up building my own house and get it done before Jimi actually releases one of his many Doom clones he made over the course of this year.

What is the most detailed / realistic Doom map ever made? What are some of you guys personal favourites?

Also: Is there such a thig like a 90's mapping vs modern mapping wad? Like the same level 2 times, but once like it would have been made in the 90's and then with all our modern doom mapping experience?

>>2768481
1. planisphere 2, most likely

2. see the 1994 tune up community project

>>2767383
Bretty gut. The interior of my steam ship is done.

>>2768263
i read it as motom or something

>>2768505
noice m8

>>2768270
You do realize that Doom 3 actually did have pretty decent reception and there's no way they aren't going to reference it in some way?

Hell, 4 apes some of it's aesthetics to a degree.

Anyone here play MMOs? Yes? No? Why?

I think they are overly complex and it's just so slow till anything fun happens.

>>2768647
How's this related to the thread topic at all?

>>2767105
>https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1517044
>a huge text message covers the screen telling me to change an option that doesn't exist
dropped

>play knee deep in zdoom
>wow, this is pretty fuckin' neato, would be great for coop
>it was released when bush was president
>shores of zdoom still isn't out

why

>>2768667
Cause I'm interested in what Doomers would say.

>>2768667

see: someone trying to stir shit in the third post from this thread

>>2767705
Play it on nightmare

>>2768763
doom is a piece of free software for which i have the code. it can't be changed externally by corporate interests fiddling with the game server i'm connected to.

>>2768854
>doom is a piece of free software
No it isnt.

you overly angry testosterone fueled assholes need to get the fuck off of this board, your fucking shitty attitude has invaded this entire board and ruined.
not fuck off with these threads to /vg/ where you belong so we can have our fucking board back, thank you.

you overly angry testosterone fueled assholes need to get the fuck off of this board, your fucking shitty attitude has invaded this entire board and ruined it.
now fuck off with these threads to /vg/ where you belong so we can have our fucking board back, thank you.

>>2768894
it is indeed a piece of Free Software. You can't use it to play Doom without the copyrighted IWAD, but the source code itself is Free in the libre sense.

>>2768901
Hey anon, you goin' as a ghost for Halloween? 'Cause you're transparent. :^)

ironically he is the angry one with the shitty attitude. everyone else is pretty chill and helpful.

>>2768901
lol

>>2768901
>How dare you to actually play the game that you discuss, enjoy it and even try to add something to the community's chest! Don't you see you are ruining my SEGALORDS>NINTENIGGERS fun!

This is starting to look like Liberty-class with paddle wheels.

>>2768936
Steamboat Impy

>>2768939
A good name for a map.

>>2767620
wad name please

(that's not just some beefed up colourfulhell, is it?)

>>2768953
It's Brutal Doom's "starter pack" mapset, and I'm playing it with Accessories to Murder

>>2768962
thanks

I haven't opened one of these threads in a few months and am out of date

back then I just played shitloads of GMOTA and everyone around here became rabid if brutal was mentioned

>>2768962
which one is the monster from?

>>2768995
starter pack

I thought this was a meme and people were overreacting all along

but holy shit turns out this crap actually does happen probably more often than Im aware of

>>2769049

>>2769049

I feel you. With any games, there are memes we won't believe till we see with our own eyes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRdcptG365I

>>2769070
>Minecraft

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeell that's not really a shocker tbh.

>>2768263

>Screenshot_2015-10-30-07-53-45.png

>>2769117
speak up, fag

>>2769109
minecraft's community is a sad fucking joke.

>>2769117
yeah I don't follow.

>>2768991
Still happens, just enough people tell them to stfu they usually chill pretty fast.

Except for reasonable BD criticisms, but I feel those even have been beaten to death

>>2769186
Looks like a decent Caleb costume for Halloween.
He just needs some dynamite, a flare gun, or a dub barrel shotty and he'd have it set.

>>2769221

And proper annunciation :V

>>2769229
> :V
Get out

>>2769229
yeah you sound just as much of a sperg as he is now.

>>2769246
>>2769284

Not that guy but you two seem to be getting bent outta shape over an emoticon. That one isn't even that bad compared to the others out there.

That being said, yeah. That anon should know better about how things work here.

In other news, how'd you guys feel about a gameplay mod that gives the player a grenade you can pitch at things and operates on a cooldown? I've been thinking about that feature from doom 4 and I think it's pretty cool

I wonder how hard a portable translocator would be to implement

>>2768962
>brutal doom's "starter pack" mapset

how many mods, .wads, and maps were made with brutal doom in mind?
Is compatibility an issue?
Does knee deep in zdoom work with brutal doom?

>turned off mouse acceleration
>suddenly doom is twice as fun
and now I want to play all fps's with a mouse

Xbone mouse support when

>>2769391
It already has mouse support doesn't it?

>>2769390
>how many mods, .wads, and maps were made with brutal doom in mind?
Besides the Starter Pack, only Brutal Doom: Beyond Hell and Earth.

>Does knee deep in zdoom work with brutal doom?
With a lot of issues? Yes.

>Picking level music

Has anybody here ever tried a MIDI converter and was it not shit?

I'm wanting to try one for some music to use in a Doom map.