/vr/ - Retro Games

1 is my favorite.

Rondo of blood.

I just finished marathoning all the classicvanias.

While best is really subjective, I enjoyed 1 the most.

The tg16 version of rondo is SHOCKINGLY good. I assumed for years that it's reputation was predicated on rarity, being an expensive and cult import title for so long - booted it up earlier this year for the first time, and it quickly became one of my favorite platformers ever.

I do see why castlevania heads love SOTN so much, but speaking without any nostalgia bias, I have to say that Rondo trounces any other vania game - and I'm pretty sure I've at least tasted all of em by now.

>>2742332
>posting a shitty non-/vr/ Castlevania

>>2742349
>>2742353
This. Just recently got to 96% as a Halloween experience after not paying it in like ten years. It's as good as ever. Actually much better than even my great memories. Like Anon said it's actually shockingly good.

Been playing Castlevania Adventure 2 lately. I just like Classicvania.

>>2742332
I cant play any other than the first one

>>2742362
Would the best way to go about playing it be to DL the psp remake and use an unlock code? I dont have a turbogfx and it isnt on the pii u eshop as far as I know

>>2742332
My favorites are IV and rondo of blood. I like all the /vr/ castlevanias and some that aren't /vr/ But won't be mentioned

>>2742367
It emulates fine but PCECD emulation is slightly complicated and as I understand it the PSP version is solid as well if that's simpler and/or more convenient for you. Just do yourself a favor and play it asap.

I might actually give the remake itself a spin since I have like four PSPs doing nothing. I haven't even played my 3000 for one minute ever.

>>2742374
The psp remake has the Turbogfx version as an unlockable

Official ratings

1
Rondo
3
SOTN
4

Too tired to remember the rest

>>2742375
Yeah I know but I literally just played the fuck out of the original I'm thinking about actually playing the remade version.

>>2742332

stop being a lazy fuck and just play the games to find out whether or not you like them.

it's not like you're making some sort of massive life decision here.

rondo is for weebs tbh

>>2742467

y tho?

>no mention of Bloodlines.

I always knew /vr/ had terrible taste, but I never knew it was this bad.

>>2742525

Bloodlines is just OK. The OST is probably some of the worst in the series thanks to Genesis' terrible sound chip and gameplay wise it's a step back from SCIV.

>>2742525
Buddy the /vr/ we knew is dead
Also castlevania adventure 2 is good

>>2742536

I can already predict what people are going to reply to you, that the Genesis chiptune is better than the SNES sampling, and that SCV IV is not as good because its "easy" due to the diagonal whip.

You and the people that will reply to you are wrong.

Both IV and Bloodlines are excellent.

Also Dracula X is one of the best classicvanias, but I can predict that people will say "it's just a dumbed down version of Rondo!"

damn I hate the CV fandom

>>2742539
If you truly think it's dead then fuck off.

>>2742542
>Also Dracula X is one of the best classicvanias

Oh god, you're so ass backwards that there's no saving you. I bet you're underage, too.

>>2742551


Try to fundament why Dracula X isn't one of the best classicvanias without using meme arguments such as "it's a bad port of Rondo!", because that one is not true and sign that you never really played the game.

>underage

why the projection? underages wouldn't even know Dracula X exist in this day and age.

>>2742549
No, you.

>>2742332
I would say Rondo, but those three are all well worth playing.

Chronicles is quite good as well.

3, 1, Rondo and Bloodlines are the best.

>>2742358
*tips*

>>2742332

1 3 Super, Rondo and Bloodlines are all very very good.
Try them and find out which one you like best.

>>2742353
whats the easiest way to play this? I have only played the PC version of Rondo and while I finished the game it wasn't too great iirc

Why does nobody ever bring up Belmont's Revenge? That game is sick.

Oh wow, I just started playing Ecclesia the other day. It's pretty good so far... and way harder than any other post-SotN Castlevania I've ever tried.

>>2743086
Not fucking retro, but it's the best castlevania after SotN. In fact, it's even better than SotN for me.

From the classic nes trilogy 3 is definitely my favorite.

While my first Castlevania was SotN, I really like 3.

God Tier:

3
Rondo

High Tier:

1
Adventure ReBirth
AD x68000

Mid Tier:

IV
Bloodlines

Low Tier:

2
Dracula X

Bad Tier:

Haunted Castle


I haven't played the others, some people say Belmont Revenge is good maybe I will give it a chance

>>2742358

Why is /vr/ filled with such whiny cunts? Just once I'd like to read a thread without someone complaining about rules being broken. I'm starting to think 4chan needs an /autism/ board that has a bunch of obscure rules for these faggots to follow and enforce.

>>2742332
I have never played Bloodlines, so I can't speak for that one. Of the classics, RoB is the best one, although you can't go wrong with 1 and 3. RoB is a bit easier than those two, but it's so unbelievably great in terms of its level design, mechanics, and presentation, that you won't even mind.

I would actually recommend starting with 1 and 3 though, since I think it enhances the RoB experience. It takes what those games did, irons out a few flaws, and just turns everything up to eleven. It's really spectacular.

Just a beginner's tip for 3, since it can seem a bit overwhelming at first with its harsh difficulty and four characters: Master using Sypha. I think she is the most useful of the three partners, and her ice spell can trivialize enemies that give Trevor a hard time.

>>2742525

I was getting worried no one would mention my favorite Classicvania.

>>2742467
You talking shit about my waifu?

>>2743086
>tfw /vr/ Metroidvania threads could be awesome but they're not allowed because SotN is the only /vr/ Metroidvania

I'm playing Harmony of Dissonance right now on my Gameboy Player. This game is great and playing it on the big screen reveals so many little details I never noticed while playing on a handheld. I'd love to be able to discuss it but /v/ would just shitpost about how Harmony is the worst Castlevania and just a ripoff of SotN.

>>2742542
Dracula X isn't very good. I like it more than IV, but it suffers from a lot of problems.

Questionable hitboxes, dull level design, and abysmal strut speed, all make for a pretty underwhelming remake of Rondo.

Also, no bible.

Death fight on top of the clock tower was cool though.

I really like Castlevania 2: Simon's Quest. Most likely because it was the only Castlevania game I actually owned as a kid. Honestly though, I think game is shat on a little too much. I love the atmosphere and music in the game, and the obscure shit didn't really bother me as a kid, in fact, discovering new things in the game was always an awesome feeling. The day I finally beat it is one of my favorite gaming memories. Is it the best Classicvannia? No, not even close, but it's still a fun game and I think more people should give it a shot.

>>2743171
>all make for a pretty underwhelming remake of Rondo.

But it's not a Rondo remake, that's the PSP game.

As for hitboxes, speed, level design, etc... I dunno, it feels like good old classic 'vania to me. Never understood the hate for its level design, it has a lot of Castlevania 1/III vibes, and is much harder than Rondo of Blood.

Dracula X is not my favorite, but it's definitely on my top 5 or so. I feel it's severely underrated, and unfairly so.

>>2743154
OP is probably genuine in his quest for a Classicvania, but he also wants to find a way to discuss his 7th gen trash, otherwise he wouldn't have used that picture.

Rondo and bloodlines are my favorite.

IV is okay and Dracula X is a disappointment

>>2743231
>Ecclesia
>Trash
Hand over your CV games. All of them.

Now.

>>2743193
>But it's not a Rondo remake, that's the PSP game.

Same story, same music, same enemies, same bosses. I'd say it classifies as a remake.

>Never understood the hate for its level design

I think it's just dull. I can't find a more fitting adjective. Too many vertical rooms with stairs and flat platforms, with little to no variety. Trudging through the mud in alternate stage 4 is painful. Reusing certain enemies over and over. There's a real lack of memorable and unique sections.

I have played through both RoB and DX roughly the same amount of times, and I could easily draw from memory every single level in RoB from start to finish. With DX, no chance.

>and is much harder than Rondo of Blood.

I think Dracula X is a little harder, but it's not really something in its favor. I feel a lot of that comes from the shoddy hitboxes, slower movement, and a completely botched implementation of the backflip.

If you could play through Dracula X with Richter's controls from RoB, I think it would be easier than RoB.

http://strawpoll.me/5579883

>>2743231
Regrdless of his intentions, OoE isn't trash.

>>2743245

>same bosses

Are you sure?

I'd call it more like a "reimagining" of Rondo. The levels are completely different.

>Too many vertical rooms with stairs and flat platforms

I don't see that as a problem. I loved Castlevania III.

>I feel a lot of that comes from the shoddy hitboxes, slower movement, and a completely botched implementation of the backflip.

Again, I didn't ever had any problem with the controls. Feels like 'vania to me.
I think it's harder because the level design is more unforgiving, Rondo is too easy overall except for a few sections. The first level of Rondo is a total cakewalk, for example, whereas on Dracula X there's medusa heads, right on the first level.

Anyway, my point isn't wether Dracula X is better than Rondo or not. My point is that we shouldn't compare each other as if they were the same game, because they're not. I like both.

>>2743231
Your memes are too dank for this thread. Please return to /v/.

>>2742536

This.

Thanks.

This sums up the game pretty well.

Underrated post.

Bloodlines is the best Retro Castlevania, do not bother with any other Castlevania that is not Metroidvania.

>>2742554

Shitty level-design and gameplay. Both Bloodlines and SC IV are better than Dracula X. CAN you make any arguments as for why it's the best? Because it doesn't the best graphics, nor the best music, not even the designs... it's not the best in anything.

Seriously, just TRY making an argument for this game. You'll realize that, while MAYBE not as bad as people make out to be, it doesn't come close to basically, any other castlevania game unless you want to shoehorn the really shitty ones.

>>2743373

Now this is a very shitty opinion.

While I love Bloodlines, it is by no means the best, or most representative of the Classic series.
You don't even fight against Dracula in it. It's still a great game, but stop spreading bullshit you underage shitmongler.

>>2743369
Bloodlines is one of the only genesis games without shitty sound.

it's also much faster paced than Super IV, and the re are more colors than just purple, green and orange.

Bloodlines still has diagonal whipping, so it's not a step back.

>>2743245
>Same story, same music, same enemies, same bosses. I'd say it classifies as a remake.

Unh, anon... That's the thing. It doesn't have any of this shit. I don't think you ever played Rondo of Blood and you are problably on a nostalgia trip over Dracula X because you played it as a kid. Maybe.

It's not the same story. Dracula X doesn't even have a story.

It's not the same music. Not even close. Nope.

Same bosses? Again. It might had 1 or 2 bosses that were the same, but all the rest? Nope.

Same levels? Fucking again, did you play Rondo of Blood? The levels are COMPLETELY different and you have diverging paths in Rondo of Blood (with different bosses).

It is NOT a fucking remake. It's not even a port. It is a complete different version, in fact, they should just have replaced Richter and made an all-new castlevania altogether. MAYBE it would get some love then.

>>2743382
>Bloodlines still has diagonal whipping, so it's not a step back.

It doesn't. Eric can attack with diagonal spear, but not the Not-Belmont guy.

No one is saying it's bad, it's just not the best classicvania. But yeah, good music *for the genesis*, longer levels, it was fine.

>>2743376

"shitty", nice argument.


Read again and I never said Dracula X is the best, just one of the best.
I'd say it belongs in the same tier as the other 3 (or rather 4, I also like to include X68K as "one of the best").
Whether you like one or another "best" mostly comes down to personal preference and there will never any way to convince other people that your taste is superior.

>>2743376
>CAN you make any arguments as for why it's the best?

Better gameplay than IV, perfect pacing, in classic Castlevania style that stays true to 1,2, and 3, with 1 and 3 being the absolute best in the series, more difficult than IV, not to mention the best 2D Castlevania graphics on a major home console that isn't SoTN, it's a fantastic fucking game.

Maybe you should gg

>>2743392
How is the x86k version compared to the PlayStation version

>>2743415
Both versions are the same save for the PSX version including an arranged mode.

>>2743415

In the PS1 version, Simon suffers from A Link to the Past syndrome and his hair becomes pink.

But yeah, it includes the original X68K version in it as well.

>>2743295
Not to mention that dracula in rondo was a pushover

Mirror of Fate HD is solid if you want to just play a platformer without having to level your character like in an rpg. Most of the series has a leveling system since SoTN so its worth a shot to see what a newer Castlevania is like without those elements.

>>2743069
I called it castlevania adventure 2. My bad.

>>2743154
A traumatic brain injury is your only reasonable eXcuse for your logic. There are rules, when they are broken the structure of this board breaks down.

>>2743169
Not /vr/. Talk about somewhere else

>>2743382
Kiddo. You have a lot >>2743394
It's odd people feel the need to defend their personal opinions. No one is attacking your core character here, kiddo.

>>2743240
>>2743259
>linear garbage
>shitty town area
>boring bosses
>boring extra mode

OoE is shit.

I can't decide between Rondo and IV.

Rondo has a lot of 90's anime charm, excellent soundtrack and good levels, but it's fairly easy most of the time, it is a nice way to introduce people to classicvania though and it has aged better than the SNES ones so yeah it's good.

IV, has good and long enough levels, the soundtrack is great too but i think it suffers from the snes sound limitations, the only real technical problem with it is that it uses passwords, but that ain't anything a computer or even a flashcard can't fix.
I always liked the darker atmosphere on this one, you can't find that on the nes games and Rondo characters and overall feel is more cheerful. While the early levels are easy, the latter ones are harder than anything in Rondo, it took me a lot more tries to complete IV not abusing the continues since some of the placements of enemies/platforms can ruin some of first playthroughs if you try harder than you should like me.

Both rondo and IV have issues but they complement each other pretty well in my opinion, and both are must play in the series.

I love 1 and 3 but 3 is a bitch to complete solo, and 1 is great but it isn't my favorite.

I want to give chronicles a chance, is it worth it or is just a more polished IV?

>>2743387
Yes, you can diagonal whip. Only when you jump though

>>2744169
that's some nice buzzcriticism you gots there, kid.

>>>/v/

Really need to play some more 2D castlevania games, I think Rondo Of Blood would be my favorite, followed by Bloodlines.

>>2744149
>"Thing fucking sucks can you even defend yourself?"
>Yeah actually, I like the
>"Odd, fucking faggot, why do you feel the need to defend your opinion?"
>Wat

Dude you're a nut job. You need reflect on your own stupidity.

>>2744831
You are confused and young. It's ok kiddo.

>>2744835
>young
>kiddo

Project harder, 17 year old boy. You need to be at least 18 to post here.

Are Castlevania fans the worst people on /vr/?

>>2744846
Probably

>>2744846

Some Castlevania fans seem like bros, others seem like assholes. I think it's just the Castlevania threads on /vr/ that just can't be without shitposting unless it's a music thread. I wouldn't label all CV fans as the same.

>>2744846
Probably not, but castlevania threads are some of the worst.