/vr/ - Retro Games

===NEWS===

[10-04] Anon map release: "i spent 2 hours making a short map"
>>2718745
https://www.mediafire.com/?p0196ndn2pl6lwb

[10-02] The /newstuff Chronicles #484
https://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4498

[09-26] Quake Live beta almost complete - keys available
>>2703896
https://twitter.com/SyncError/status/646877259534499841

[09-26] Monument (final version) released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1401888
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/Ports/m-o/monument

[09-25] The /newstuff Chronicles #483
https://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4495

[09-25] Ultimate Doom II: An in-progress expanded remake of Doom II (Note: nothing to do with Ultimate Doom!)
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=46911

[09-24] Public Service Announcement: Do not compile GZDoom with both FMOD and OpenAL, it will break.
http://forum.drdteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=6698&p=57351

[09-22] WadC v2.0 released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1419243

[09-21] DoomRL Arsenal v1.0 released
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=37044

[09-20] Developer Opinion - Gun Feedback
https://youtu.be/tf-xxGkkWPs

[09-20] Anon's birthday cake >>2691441 >>2691447

[09-18] 50 Shades Of Graytall released (late news)
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=18205

[09-18] The /newstuff Chronicles #482
https://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4489

[09-16] Doomworld now available via https
https://www.doomworld.com/
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1420875

[09-14] Icar2015: a 11-map set for Icarus, by Eternal
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/74589-icar2015/

[09-13] Strange Aeons v3.5
>>2679170
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=49369

[09-12] Anon mod release: Mugshot / Ammo display HUD
>>2676321
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48332341/dumbhud.pk3

[09-11] Reelism X3 released, right on schedule!
http://www.thekinsie.com/reelism/

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*poots into thread*

>>2729409
>BUST-A-GUT
this is a real thing, btw.
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/Ports/a-c/bustagut

>>2729432

Well that's interesting.

what features would you like to have seen in the original Doom?

what other features that made it into the final game would you have enhanced or improved upon?

what would you take out?

>QUESTION

what does /vr/ think is the best looking/most beautiful WAD you've seen?

pic related is Sunder, all the insane geometry and complex structures in every level give me a mathgasm

this one in particular is map11

>>2729501
>what features would you like to have seen in the original Doom?

id like to have seen slopes and stories of buildings, or levels on top of one another

>what other features that made it into the final game would you have enhanced or improved upon?

just better demon animations, like them actually turning to their side, instead of just a sprite only allowed to face a few directions

>what would you take out?

nothing

>>2729504
I'd say Sunder is interesting, but not beautiful. I personally think Valiant and Sunlust look pretty damn great. Kind of a shame we didn't get more high-profile megawads this year.

>>2729513
>high-profile megawads this year.
Yeah, but 32 high-quality maps take some serious effort to produce.

However, strangely enough, some great Ultimate Doom Episode replacement WADs have come out recently. Monument, an E2 replacement, and Apokalypsis, an E4 replacement.

>>2729527
>Apokalypsis, an E4 replacement
hmm, missed this. thanks.

Something something bat joke.

>>2729736
I dunno man, those balls don't seem terribly useful. Look how long that first one takes to get to the enemies that were actually threatening you. It even brought one of them closer to you. That swing also looks really ineffective for an attack that costs half of a BFG shot. This is the BFG replacement, right? It's gotta have more "kill everything in sight" capability than that. Even players who don't know the inner workings of the BFG know that when it's fired, it's going to really fuck some shit up. By comparison, this looks frustratingly fickle and inefficient. Even the Excalibat did a better job than your dark and edgy OC donutsteel.

>>2729785

I don't even see it as dark and edgy, but I feel like just copying the excalibat's functions wouldn't be right

I guess I could scrap the bat entirely and try to come up with another weapon.

>>2729736
Idle sprite looks a bit skewed.

>>2729789
Either make the melee strike free or make it way more powerful. At 20 cells a pop it should kick extreme amounts of ass, not the same amount of work you could do with a couple of berserk punches. As for the balls, maybe look to the Bloodscourge for inspiration? That's the feeling I'm getting from that part of the weapon, it's like the Bloodscourge without the satisfaction or effectiveness of watching it slice through crowds of even the biggest, baddest enemies like a hot knife through butter, oneshotting everything it can find within its lifespan. It just sort of incompetently pushes enemies around, not even capable of oneshotting an imp.

And we've gone over this before, you took the Excalibat's wooden bat with green aura and made your own OC that's made of metal and has a red aura. It is difficult to get darker or edgier than that.

>>2729797

I just prefer metal bats over wood ones, like from a practical standpoint I feel like a wooden bat would break after busting a few demon heads, plus metal bats make cooler sounds when whacking shit with it.

I stuck with red because it's a color I can see easily

But honestly I'm strongly considering scrapping this altogether and try to come up with a different BFG tier weapon, as it stands right now there IS a bit of overlap when compared to the chainsaw replacement.

>>2729736
Something looks off about the swing animation, I can't quite put my finger on it.. like the bat doesn't have enough follow-through or isn't doing a proper swing, like it readies too fast after it hits something.
Also I think you should give the explosion on-hit more immediate oomph/whack/pow, as right now it's a bit delayed, picture related.

>>2729736
why don't you make it so that you can return projectiles like fireballs and rockets?

>>2729815

I don't have the knowhow for that, plus it'd be easily abusable and a bit wonky.

>>2729817
fair point, the swing (if it hits) explodes already

>>2729736
it has an eyeball! i like that.

>>2729409

WHAT ARE THE BEST DOOM LAN WADS AND MODS

>>2729852

>>2729863

heh, how silly

Does someone have a list of assemblies for Doom Roguelike Arsenal? I remember there was a pastebin from the older versions.

>>2729893
previous thread
>>2727284

the PLUTONIA and TNT wads that come with the GOG edition of Final Doom are the ones from the Id Anthology with fixed bugs

>>2729901
indeed, although this isn't too much of an issue unless you care about demo sync

>>2729902
there also is the yellow card on map 31 of TNT

ZDCMP1

Okay, I'm not sure what to do.

>>2730013
Have you tried it without gameplay mods? Older ZDoom stuff can be really picky about that kind of thing.

>>2730018
Pity, it never broke until then. I just no-clipped through though. Also, that ice gun, Jesus, is it ugly.

>>2730039

That gun looks like something outta TRON.

>>2730052
>>2730039
It looks like a palette conversion error.

why is doom so popular with autistic people?

The screenshots for Zero Tolerance show a HUD that doesn't seem to appear in-game, was it removed? I wanted to use it...

>>2730060

Because you go as fast as sonic the hedgehog and doomguy's face animates the same as thomas the tank engine, and autistic people are literally sexually obsessed as fuck with both of those things.

speaking as an autist myself, I completely know what Im talking about

>>2730068
try the fullscreen HUD

>>2730070
wow, good answer!

>>2730039
>they used rise of the triad's heat seeker for an ice gun

>>2730060
i expect your question is asked in bad faith but i will answer anyway. to the aspergee the real world is a terrifying, confusing place full of unwritten rules that everyone else just seems to know, where one is hopelessly out of control, and constantly humiliated. in contrast, doom is a universe over which i have complete control and nothing that happens cannot be explained or reasoned out. no-one can take that control away from me. i am safe here.

>>2730060
you've been doing nothing but try to bait people on a videogame image board for six months straight

you wanna discuss aspergers buddy?

>>2730087
Nope, doesn't work. I can't seem to find the files for the HUD with SLADE either.

>>2730095
this is a good answer too

>>2730096
i have aspergers and i can recognise that most doomers are very autistic about doom
not baiting (different person)

>>2730096
i think it's been a bit longer than six months

>>2730098 (me)
Well, I mean the graphics are in there, but I can't find anything that sets them up to be used.

>>2730068
>>2730087
>>2730098
>>2730107
Nevermind, I'm an idiot.

after almost 20 years im replaying Doom II with Project Brutality on Death Wish spawn setting for the special occasion.
but I still dont fucking know how you are supposed to get that fucking keycard man.
I want to get to the secret exit and see the secret levels which I didnt see back in the days..

>>2729797
>And we've gone over this before, you took the Excalibat's wooden bat with green aura and made your own OC that's made of metal and has a red aura. It is difficult to get darker or edgier than that.

Your DeviantartFu is weak. This is neither dark nor edgy.
Darker and edgier would be if it was a vampire bat that fed from the bloodstains of its victims, with 666 spikes all along the ridge each plucked from the a demon it's slain, with a crying punctuating every single swing and a scream punctuating every impact. And with balls that are powered by the united suffering of mankind. And gifted by Sephiroth, or something.

>>2730246
Go through the teleporter in that room and then back.

>>2730246
here's how you get the keycard

>>2730246
however you can reach the secret exit entirely without it (spoilers obviously)

>>2730246
>>2730264 (me)
alternative route, may require strafe50

>>2730246
and if all that wasn't enough... read the wiki, it has a walkthrough+secrets

http://doomwiki.org/wiki/MAP15:_Industrial_Zone_%28Doom_II%29

>>2730246
man, that gun is beautiful
you can really feel the helltech mess

>>2729797
>It is difficult to get darker or edgier than that.
You REALLY have not seen a lot of shit if you think THAT is the height of edge.

Twisted Metal Black, that's edgy, the Norwegian metal band Mayhem, they were edgy, incredibly edgy, a metal baseball bat with a red aura is just fucking nothing, you really are an innocent child.

>>2729801
I agree on metal bats, I like the metal ringing noises they make on impact.

And they can stand more abuse, an aluminum bat is hollow, and very light, but also rigid, so it's easy to swing it really hard, sacrificing mass for speed.

>>2730278
>>2730270
>>2730264
>>2730286

love you so much
no homo

>>2729801
>>2730291
have you ever hit something hard with a metal bat? they bend pretty easily, wood bats last far longer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivfG64QUeH4

>>2729504
haven't played much doom lately, but i would have to say bloody steel.

>>2730379
what wad/mod/hud is dat??

>>2730398
bloody steel, can't you read???

>>2730404
i can read, i wanted to know what the mapset is too

>>2730398
The HUD is "Ultimate Doom HUD". It's GZDoom-only, I think. Should come with various additional pk3s for certain weapon sets, including plain vanilla Doom.

>>2730406
>i can read, i wanted to know what the mapset is too
>>2730404
>bloody steel, can't you read???

>>2730458
I think he confused the HUD with the WAD there.

>>2730372
>none of them strafejumping or bhopping

lel scrubs

>>2730289
shame to know it's not original though, right? :^]

>>2730264
That keycard was such a pain in the ass to get for me back in the day, they really didn't make it intuitive to find, though you could just use the lava teleporter. Once you discover that tp you can ignore half the stage and not think about it.

Is there a sourceport that supports aspect ratios wider than 16:9? From what I remember GZDoom or Zdoom used to but don't anymore.

My aspect ratio is 16:3

is map21 of requiem broken as fuck or is it just me

I couldn't get an earlier lift to go down for me to get through so I just wandered around like a retard trying to figure it out until I had to noclip past it ffs

and this grey wall shit thing blocking the red door (pic related) won't budge either so I'm forever stuck in this garbage level. Literally what

also on a somewhat related note, not a single exotic modpack works on the widowmaker smg for some reason and the spiders are laughably weak as shit

might as well piss on the enemies smh

>>2730330

What if the bat was filled with something? Like cork?

>>2731198
corking would probably make it weaker

http://www.oldmanmurray.com/images/features/cam_message1.mp3

Carmack Automated Mouth here just reminding you doomers to keep doing what you need to do to make the best levels

>>2729513
What is this map from?

>>2731098
Did you press the series of switches around the room? that lowers the wall blocking the door.

has somebody ever used voxels for mapping purposes? i've been wondering if such thing exists

>>2731310
>Did you press the series of switches around the room? that lowers the wall blocking the door.

well fuck me repeatedly and over and over again

I knew I had pushed something behind the red keycard pillar and I knew those three switches were supposed to do something but I never figured out what it was

I feel so fucking retarded right now like wow.

On a related note, that still doesn't say much about the lift problem what with it not going down and all that. I still have to noclip past it because it just refuses to lower for some reason.

also, can anyone here please confirm the widowmaker smg not having any different effects on the spider thingies despite applying any exotic modpacks on them? they still don't do shit other than fickling away at the enemies for ~5 damage each and it's retarded

>>2731342
I can confirm; noticed the same thing the other day. Just assumed that, like bladed weapons, it simply Wasn't Done yet.

>>2730950
>My aspect ratio is 16:3
WTF? Do you have 3 CRTs or something?

>>2731349
>WTF? Do you have 3 CRTs or something?
Actually that would only be 12:3 so... 3 16:9 monitors side by side? Jesus Christ

>>2730950
>>2731349
>>2731351
Yes, 3x16:9 monitors side by side.

For the record I already know about the vanilla feature that renders viewports on your extreme left and right sides, that's not what I'm looking for here.

>>2731389
by my reckoning, 16:3 would make your view angle 360°. this violates assumptions like things behind you are never rendered.

>>2731302
Chapter 2 of Valiant, can't remember which map.

>>2729501
there are a few annoyingly missing linedef types, like lower to next lowest adjacent floor

>>2731312
what do you mean?
like, use it instead of walls for destructible/damageable environment ?

>>2729409
What's a SSG swingshot?

>>2731591
yeah, something like that, or just item decorations, i've played with weapons using voxels before, but i wondered if people ever used them to create statues for example, or destructible/damageable environment

>>2732028
A long time ago someone did an experiment in voxel versions of common wall textures to add "depth" to walls, but it turns out having a lot of detailed voxel objects in a scene is bad for performance. Who knew, right?

>>2731964
its meta

>>2732035
oh well, at least i tried, thanks

Hunter's Moon is cool, like Quake with Doom 3 enemies.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=30942

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=36486

Look at these voxel vehicles meant for map decorations.

>>2731964
Back when Doom was still new, people were convinced that turning while shooting the SSG did more damage.

What actually happens is this:

Hitboxes are square, and people were hitting enemies at around a 45-degree angle which resulted in a bigger section of the hitbox being in front of them (a 10 wide hitbox is 10 wide from the front and sides, but at 45 degree angles it's 14 wide (The Pythagorean Theorem)) which resulted in more SSG bullets landing on the target which resulted in more damage being dealt.

So, it did deal more damage, but I remember the original presumption being that the SSG bullets did more damage individually because we knew nothing of Doom's hitbox mechanics.

>>2731964
It's also a persistent fudd myth that when you shoot a shotgun, if you swing it fast enough, you can curve the trajectory of the shot by simple inertia.

Not only is it wrong (your arm is not faster than lead shot hurtling down the barrel of a shotgun), it's also unsafe.

>>2732130
Did some inexact performance tests in ZDoom and GZDoom using the test map and spawning extra cars in the map by the first car.

ZDoom 800x600
Spawn 5 60sCarRed, drops from 105 to 75 standing in corner behind spawn point.

GZDoom 800x600
Spawn 5 60sCarRed, drops from 90 to 65 standing in corner behind spawn point.

These are pretty high detail voxels and they were all in view at all times.

Anyone have a fresh build of the Freedoom GitHub?

>>2732130
>>2732150
thanks for the info

>>2730950
You can get widescreen support in Doomsday. I have a similar setup to you and have gotten it to work when windowed, but in fullscreen it got all shit up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCibu8yEQzQ

>>2732179
there is an autobuilder, but i forget the url

>>2732267
Found the Freedoom autobuilder

http://freedoom.soulsphere.org/

Is there a list with mods which include an amount of custom sprites?

>>2731342
Exotic modding the Widowmaker SMG unlocks different spider modes. It's one of the special Uniques that can take one of each exotic mod simultaneously. Press reload to switch modes, you are still in Standard mode.

Also, from your picture, you don't actually have any mods applied to it. I assume you were probably just checking it and then reloading a save though.

>>2729409
I don't recognize the girl and the guy left of her.

>>2732404
Rocky and Misty

>>2729501
Maybe a little more enemy variety. Could be just some minor recolors depending on what episode you're playing.

I would have given the megaarmor a more distinct texture than just a recolor of the regular armor. Also maybe remove the red tint when picking up a berserk pack, or make it more obvious that it lasts even when the red tint expires.

I would take out the pistol. Really once you get a shotgun or a minigun there is no reason to use it.

>>2732406
Which games?

>>2732417
Rocky and Pokemon

>>2732404
the girl is prisoner whateverthenumberis from unreal isn't she?

Why the hell is Q3 "the" competitive quake? What the hell is so much better about Q3 compared to the rest of the games? I can see why it wouldn't be 1 or 2, but whats wrong with 4 and CPMA?
And why has q3 as of late just been camp fests?

>>2732383
oh alright then. Thanks for clearing that up.

I remember pressing reload while the gun was modded though, and nothing happened. I'll check again see if anything new comes up and stuff.

>>2732404
The girl is prisoner 849 (I think) from Unreal.
Not sure about the guy

Where can i find sites with quality sprites like realm667?

>>2732453
>Quality
>Realm667

Nice joke

>>2732459
You can make a point of people overusing their resources, frequently in clashing manners, but they have a lot of good sprites.

>>2732427
>I can see why it wouldn't be 1 or 2
What utter shit taste.

>>2732262
I remember this youtube video, I tried using Doomsday and I couldn't get it to work. I'll try it out again using windowed mode, thank you.

>>2732459
even the hdoomguy is bashing this site. What's wrong about that? I just want good sprites and it's the only one where i can find some decent.

>>2732529
>What's wrong about that?

The sprites being overused as hell,mainly
Also because Tormentor.

>Even the hdoomguy

I'm not Mike,you silly :^)

>>2732552
Mike? Well, i refers to his posts.

>>2732529
>I just want good sprites and it's the only one where i can find some decent.
unfortunately, so does everyone else, and those capable of creating them are rare

>>2732383
>>2732428 (me)

so I found a problem with the smg

I'm lazy as shit though and I saw it more profitting to just make a pic splainin' what happened exactly instead of phrasing everything word by word because then it'd be more confusing I think because I suck

to give some context: I saved with all three mods applied to it, then loaded the game back up and this happened

>>2732552
And how does "being overused" is a parameter for quality?
By your logic, Vanilla Doom monsters are the worse shit to hit Doom since the Terry Wads.

>>2732552
You should probably replace "overused" with "misused."

I think revenants get overused so does that mean there's something inherently wrong with using them?

>>2732686
Ah yeah, I see. I'll just make it revert to standard when you switch away, that'll fix that.

>>2732780
chaingunnners are overused as fuck and it's inherently wrong to use them.

prove me wrong.

>>2732812
nah you just suck ass at everything

>>2732832
I got through the Ultimate Doom with IDDQD on and IDKFA on all levels, I'm hardcore as shit so don't make fun of me anon.

>>2732404
Turok / Tal'Set and Prisoner 849.

so sirens and hdoom only good 18+ wads right?

>>2732908
You are forgetting:
PAMELA ANDERSON in DOOM
Vanessa the killer bitch
Arsdoom
Doomguy's pimp ventures II: The More,The Merrier.

>>2732925
>crappy gifs on walls
>good

>>2732908
it may be only tangentially related to Doom but if you're into +18 (and at times disgusting) stuff you'll probably be a lot into Duke Screw'em 38D.

>>2732908
'Doom: Uncut' was a funny idea, but it never got finished

>>2732383
ah yeah and I just found out it can also keep shooting the spider thingies as the screen just keeps gives out the "no ammo" message, but I still have full ammo and it doesn't decrease while summoning them.

>>2732936
This actually scares me. But wait there is something called doom x which is in work for 20 years.

Hey /vr/oom, been away for a few months. Are GMOTA and Demonsteele still around? They always were my favourite gameplay mods. I checked the past few threads and there hasn't really been any mention where there used to be a lot of talk about them. Just wondering if they were dead?

>>2733112

both of thoe wads are far from being done, anon

>>2733125
Thanks anon! Good to hear

>>2732494
Np. imo it's not really worth the hassle (or doomsday), but it is kinda neat. I kinda wish Blinky Quake supported widescreen (or that games that do support 3 monitor setups used cube mapping to accomplish it)

Either way, check out blinkyquake

>>2733112

Yeah, I'm still working on DemonSteele. I've hit a bit of a hurdle in trying to figure out what Shihong's BFG should be (the miniature battlemech idea I tried didn't work out, so I'm probably going to end up going with a typical gigantic laser cannon unless I get a better idea) and I've injured my hand lately so that put a damp on things, but it's still going.
I released a public beta of Shihong not too long ago, if you're interested in giving it a run. She's nowhere near perfect (there's still a lot missing and a lot that needs to be polished), but have a funs.

https://copy.com/sHlssa18XgQdsYQ6

>>2733112

GMOTA is not dead. I have been dealing with my job as of late which has gotten more soul crushing than normal. I've been left extremely unmotivated.

Sorry. I'm not about to leave this mod unfinished, but I need time.

>>2733249
Hang in there dude, I believe in you.

>>2733249
You can achieve! Believe it! Nyaa~!

>>2733249

Thanks to the seeders! I'm 91.05% on the idgames torrent, if I could just get a bit more please.

>>2733594
I feel like this was made just for this occasion.

>>2733249
do-it.wad
But not in a suicide-y way...

>>2732908
Vanilla Doom is 18+ in my country
It's quite violent

>>2730246

Nice HUD, what is that?

>>2732908
i won't comment on the porn quality, but x.wad, seymour.wad, and girlyb.wad are decent maps.

>>2733631
i'm not sure i see lena's relevance

>>2732773
they've been there since day one, they're part of the furniture. new monsters stick out like sore thumbs, though.

>>2733612
if you had used wget you would have been done weeks ago

>>2733669
I know but I started this torrent months ago before I thought about using wget, I kinda just want to get it done now I'm this close.
I'll be wgetting any other wads I can.

Thanks to the seeder though, we'll get there in another day.

so did anyone volunteer to janitor /vr/doom ?

>>2733720

[02:54] <Mitchykins> Then again, I think this is about the 3rd time I signed up as /vr/ janitor
[02:54] <Mitchykins> Hopefully this time I'll be selected
[02:55] <Mitchykins> I also applied for... /cm/...
[02:58] <Mitchykins> /cm/, I just hate the occasional fags who post pictures of themselves
[02:58] <Mitchykins> The boards for cute anime boys, not your shitty mug

uh...

yeah...

someone did.

>>2733725
lol

send that to the feedback form so they know he's already blown the anonymity requirement

>>2733725
Good
fucking
job

>Play Community Chest
>Goin' Down
>Make fun of it because the map isn't very good
>Find out the map author died before the wad was released back in 2003

Now I feel bad.

...

Can you imagine how strange it would be, to die and leaving wad levels as one of the few creative works you did for your family?

>>2733826
lots of people die without having left any creative works at all.

>>2733834
Yeah, but only leave maps to a game that was decades old when you died. Maps potentially way younger than the game. Which is not so much weird than it it peculiar. And actually interesting.

>>2733842
What's important is he had a good time making those maps because that's what he enjoyed doing with his life. This is more important than some vague concept of how "the world" may think what a good life is.

i'm damn sure nothing i've done will survive my death

>>2733876
You should get a tablet and learn to draw. It's a skill just about anyone can learn.

And so should I, for that matter. I know /vr/ loves my plantgirl persona, but these MS-Paint doodles just don't do me any justice.

>>2732812
Literally git gud, run behind cover to break their line of sight, use their volume of fire against them to cause infighting

>>2733725
>Mitchykins

lmao
that really brings back

>>2732130
It's amazing how good things can look with a little bit of texture work

Caco-Bro drew a thing for Blaz, I certainly got a kick out of it.

None
thepits.zip (26 KB, 1994-05-12) - Alex Siegel
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=121

you start in a hole, which you must climb out of. essentially a rectangular spiral staircase. finally up a slow lift reveals you to be in an open area with a few structures. next you must go back underground to find a blue key in a large but cramped maze. finding the key causes the maze to change shape. finally behind the blue door is a lava pit. fortunately a bridge raises as you enter, but then so do a number of monsters, from pits in the liquid.

this map isn't too bad; the initial climb is a decent use of height variation, the maze changing shape sets it apart from usual efforts, although ultimately it's still a maze. the most fun part is the lava bridge, but that is subverted slightly by both the bridge and the rising pits being surrounded by impassible linedefs, which reduces the threat considerably.

there were three secrets. i missed all of them, it seems you'd need to hump every wall in the map to find them.

probably only has appeal to mid nineties pwad lovers.

>>2734148
that's either the world's smallest burger or blaz has hands big enough to throttle a grizzly

(good pic, though!)

>>2734159

Maybe some dickhead wizard cursed Blaz with Yaoi hands.

>>2734182
unf.

Hi there /vr/.
I'm looking to start practicing speedruns for quake 1. I've been looking up ways to start and along the way I've been seeing people saying this engine is better and this engine is better and blah blah blah, but I get a feeling that you guys can probably come to a solid conclusion. I'm currently using a torrented darkplaces port, but if there is an optimal version for speedrunning that I could buy (or mod later for speedrunning) I would be more than happy to.
I'm also not so sure where to look for strats other than YT runs and demos (which I have no idea where to find). Is there anything else i should know as well (like proper movement tutorials)?
Also would it be better to talk about this here or in /srg/?

>>2734294
Darkplaces is probably the worst possible sourceport for speedrunning. It fucks with the game's physics to a point that often makes some levels impossible to finish.
For speedrunning I'd say either Fitzquake or Quakespasm would be far better suited.

>>2734182
He stopped like 1 years ago. The last 2 sprites look worse compared to the others.

>>2734301
>It fucks with the game's physics to a point that often makes some levels impossible to finish.
In a speedrunning sense or just for normal runs? I managed to beat all four episodes just fine.
Can either of these mods be used with the steam version?

>>2734320

>replying to a reply without text
>1 years

>>2734182
breasts are too large for me. otherwise like it

>>2734329
>Can either of these mods be used with the steam version?
Just extract all your sourceport shit to the Steam Quake folder and rename the sourceport's exe to winquake.exe
Werks like a charm

>>2734294
>Also would it be better to talk about this here or in /srg/?
feel free, but there's not too many speedrunners here, and most that are here specialise in doom

>>2734348
Thanks anon.
You may all see me someday at European Speedster Assembly 2016. Wish me luck.

>>2734361
ganbatte

>>2734148

Yeah, that's about the right reaction.

>>2734330
You got mad? Sorry.

>>2734337
They're way big for me too (I like A cups and B cups, small titties are nice), hell, I don't even like monster girls, but I just think it's a fun picture.

Though I guess Imp-tan is pretty cute.

>>2734320
What, Mike? He hasn't stopped, he's just been on the backburner during summer.

I have been going through a few hud's trying to find one compatible with doomrpg+arsenal for my hell playthrough, does anyone know of a good one?

Non/minimal-combat wads?

>>2734469
HXRTC's?

>>2734521
Evil Eye

>>2734423
>>2734337

I'm a tittyfiend, myself, but I'm more interested in cuddling than anything outright lewd.

>Community Chest
>No tomorrow

It feels like the author just started and had a hard time stopping. What a tedious, frustrating slog.

>>2734571
that's Use3d for you.
the next one is arguably worse in some ways.

>>2734384
that's seriously awesome.

>>2734583
you get it free with sdl basically

$ SDL_VIDEODRIVER=caca prboom-plus -warp 1

>>2734586
>caca
teehee

>>2734587
seriously. the library is named libcaca.
it comes with an example application: a figlet replacement named toilet.
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>>2734591
yeah that didn't work but you get the idea...

>>2734571
>No Tomorrow
That's always where I stop playing. I've got an MSX playthrough of CC that I haven't finished yet because of that level. It's not the difficulty, even though mancubi ambushes are plentiful, but it's like as you say: it's such a slog. Add to that the fact that the way to progress is hard to find at times and it becomes an even bigger slog than before. To me, it feels like the author tried to make a lengthy, difficulty map, and indeed he did, but he just kept adding more and more shit until you're running through previous areas (devoid of enemies) looking for a flip to switch so you can run through more cleared out rooms until you get ambushed by mancubi/revenants.

It's such a shame because you can tell he definitely put in the work for it, but the fun factor isn't up to the effort spent. Also, I don't like the lighting he did in several of the areas. I like contrast, and I like some darkness, but the average light level in that level is fairly low; that combined with the color palette of the level makes it look really muddy.

>>2734604
if you're playing MSX surely you can just skip most of the map with jumping or whatever

>>2734604
I actually do find it rather difficult because some of the ares offer little space to navigate, but a lot of cannonfodder enemies with some more dangerous ones mixed in. Add to that a rather stingy medkit distribution.

>Darkening 2
>spend the entirety of the first two levels without finding out any secrets at all
>suspiciously, yet well hidden nook behind a couple of crates
>single armor bonus inside
>the fuck
>find another suspicious looking cranny sometime later
>health vial
>spend the rest of the level not finiding anything again

what the fuck

>>2734629
secrets are very secretive, who knew

>>2734634
not quite what I meant bro but ok

>>2734629
heh. you seem to be doing well enough without secrets though, chaingun, nearly full bullets, good health and armor

>>2734423
Na, the most important thing is just that the Imps and the Demons didn't hit the line which is ewww. I mean a giant machine with visible organs? Na, I rather go Sirens which basically ripped off the sprite from diablo.

>mfw hopping across nukage without taking damage
Is this what being a Doom pro is like?

>>2734642
yeah I get where you're coming from, but what I ultimately meant by that post (and what I should have elaborated upon to begin with) are secrets which difficulty to find are non-equal to the level of reward that they were supposed to have.

I mean, I could count with one hand alone the minimal portion of cases where I've found anything short of a stimpack or even a single bullet clip by executing some utterly contrived and overly complicated sequence of switch hunting or idk, but that sort of stuff never seemed fair to me.

But I'm ultimately not one to talk about that because I mostly do average/good on most playthroughs after all, but I just feel the need to say something about it.

>>2734607
I only use jumping in MSX to dodge/gain a vantage point on an enemy, as I do with any mapwad that allows jumping; however, I wouldn't insult an author by sequence breaking their map because at that point it's like skipping the game part of the gameplay.

>>2734670
>jumping in doom
no that's nothing like being a doom pro

you can be a zandropro i guess

>>2734607

NHB I find it more fun to use jumping and crouching only in-combat, and play the map normally.
If you can just jump to the end, then what's the fun in going through a map's layout?

>>2734670
>Jumping

>>2734774
Depends on the mod for me. I'll break the shit out of maps when I'm playing with Hideous Destructor, because I need every single advantage I can get. If I can toss a grenade through a window to take care of an ambush before it happens, I'm gonna do it. If I fall into a slime pit and don't have a radsuit, I'm gonna jump out because I'll die otherwise. The map wasn't built for the mod, so the author's intentions are already out the window.

I also have a lot of fun walljumping all over the place in Metroid Dreadnought. It's Metroid, I can't just pretend I'm not Samus Aran.

What is the following called:

A 3D model of 2 or more planes / long rectangles arranged in a plus, star, etc.

I'd like to try making a 3D trail / beam and Blender's UI keeps pushing everything outside of my screen whenever I try to follow the UV map tutorial so instead of making one I'd like to just find a bunch online.

>>2734670
Precisely the opposite.

>>2734807
Got a few from Hunter's Moon but in the event that a different size would be useful, here's what I'm trying to describe.

>>2733249
I fucking love you, by the way

>>2733249
i still have plenty of fun gmota as is so don't dunk on yourself

>>2732427
Developed with pro's advice, sponsors jumping on it's dick, not being as boring looking as the others while still running on most shit. 4 had that last problem and also a not so great release. Some draw paralels between Quake 4/3 and UT3/99.
CPMA was in the CPL, wasn't it? Though I don't recall wheter they used the CQ3 or CPM part of the mod. In any case, it's too hard to get into for the average player, and I'm not just talking about the game itself, the configs and shit are rather fiddly. If the game has no players it has no tournaments.
And QL is the competitive one now.
>>2732482
If we're talking Duel, Q3 is way better than either it's predecessors.

>>2733720
I was going to but I forgot.

To whom would you give the D(oom)

>>2734937
sick ass rhymes brahb

man vs game is running doom atm if anyone is interested
twitch manvsgame

>an episode of Danny Phantom had the main characters play an online FPS called Doomed
>the entire episode revolved around the MCs entering the virtual world and becoming space marines specifically looking for keys to open some portal to defeat some random evil guy
sensible_chuckle.gif

>>2734863

I appreciate that man, if I can make someone happy enough with my work that they say that, then I must be doing something right.

>>2734910

It's just what I do, I'm hard on myself. But I'm hoping you and the others will like GMOTA even more when I develop it further.

You guys are great, I'll make sure to not let you down. I'll finish up combined arms and then get back on GMOTA proper in due time.

>>2734670
That's Hexen skills, not Doom skills

>>2734586
Heads up to anyone who tries this, it is a compile-time option and not all distros provide binaries with this option enabled.

Also, I think this only works with SDL 1.2, and not the current 2.0 branch.

>>2732146
>Not only is it wrong
It's actually completely correct, per physics.
It's just that the velocity of the arm swinging compared to the velocity of the shot is minuscule, so the curve (while present) is negligible.

leaked hdoom mancubus concept

>>2734807
I don't know if it has an actual name, but it's crossing/intersecting planes to form a fake volume.

>>2735208
anon I literally just came back from fapping

>>2735208

Needs short red hair.

>>2732137
>Hitboxes are square
oh so it's like a box shape? So what's the way to get 'em at 45 degrees? I thought they always turned to face you.

Slightly off topic but I bought the Duke Nukem megaton edition and Shadow warrior redux on steam, is the included source port fine or should I get a different build engine source port?

>>2735461
i think Redux is good on its own but you should download Eduke

>>2735461
I heard Redux has some crash issues unless you opted into the older version (Properties > Beta > sdl1). Other than that it runs fine as is for me.

>>2735242
heh, zing

>>2735452
By strafing. Some monsters don't track while attacking and all monsters wander around between attacks.

It's almost time, guys

>>2736215
time for another post?

>>2736236
Har har. No, time for v0.4 update of Suab, silly.

>>2736215
>genre: 2spooky

I feel as this is going to crap up the atmosphere somewhat.

still gets a sensible chuckle out of me, though.

>>2736249
It's not part of the actual mod, it's an ambiance version of Term's Jukebox mod.

Is there a way for me to automatically pistol start on every level of a pwad in zdoom or am I going to have to idclev the stage every time?

>>2736215
>50 shades of grey: the doom mod

>>2736276
death exits?

>>2736276
websearch "zdoom pistol start options"

For those of you who've played Marathon, Durandal, and Marathon Infinity, what is your favorite level?

>>2736292
Not him, but I loaded that up a while ago and couldn't get it to work for me, ended up just idclev'ing.
Is there something I'm missing/some devbuild I need?

https://youtu.be/T79clHGoV4I

Have fun, guys.

>>2736367
>that color palette

did the grimdark mod already get released?

>>2736367
>sprinting speed
i can win the olympics for sure now

>there will never be a wad that is designed around Russian Overkill's insanity

>>2736379
Haha, yeah The guy working on that mod commented on it. I sorta added it towards the start of v0.4. I swapped back to the old one (Even though I liked the paler colors.)

>>2736367
spooky.

What is so special about Shut Up and Bleed?

It seems pretty hard with Episode 1, or I suck.

>>2729410
see >>2736367

>>2736405
>What is so special about Shut Up and Bleed?
tl;dr: resident evil esque survival horror style doom

Man the Mandala
arturo.zip (32 KB, 1995-05-22) - Arturo Cubacub
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=2097

this map is apparently based on the shape of a mandala, which apparently means a lot of symmetry.

you start in the middle and work your way to the outside, then back and forth a bit between the blue key and door.

you are thoroughly loaded up with ammunition more or less from the start, and all the weapons are available easily.

there are three secrets but they aren't really secret. there's a crushing ceiling too which is kind of obvious.

it's pretty fun, especially once you get outside. i was surprised by the archvile but the cyberdemon was inevitable.

>>2736476
second exit
http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=oe58pp

I'm working on my first playable map to post on /vr/

It's a classic gameplay map, does /vr/ like these kinds of maps? Can they surprise you with something original?

>>2736850
I for one love seeing what people can do limiting themselves to classic doom, and I'm working on 4 doom2.exe compatible levels right now too.

I like to see classic WADs from /vr/, so if you upload it I'd love to test it.

>>2736869
Dayyum, those lighting effects are nice. Good job Anon.

>>2736869
vanilla compat level is god. If you dudes keep making maps like that, i'll keep playing them.

>>2735103
I posted >>2734863
yeah I really love GMOTA; I loved hexen when I was little, but nowadays it feels a little drab, and of course it doesn't have the nice mapsets we have people making for doom. GMOTA for me is a sort of "hexen done right" that moreover lets me play doom maps like hexen maps. I've played through with GMOTA a few of the 32-map megawads that I was too lazy to do before, and it was just a blast from beginning to end.

So, no need to say "let us down" or anything like that, GMOTA is _already_ wonderful.

<3

>>2736850
yes.
if it is demo friendly i will most likely record it

>>2736850
post pls
I fucking love me some vanilla Doom

I'm going to put a flaming turd inside my boss' mail box if someone is that much of a stupid, no-fun fucktard to report hdoom's blog.

This shit is getting ridiculous.

>>2737151

What are you going on about?

>>2737169
It would seem that anon has succumbed to his rage and now looking for excuses to vent on his boss. I diagnose this as a psychosexual disorder and recommend castration.

am I the only one who's became used to pressing shit to run

I've been spending so much time doing it I literally can't let go of it everytime I play, otherwise my movement feels floaty and very unnatural

I even had to turn off autorunning in Quake to get comfy after not playing for literal months

what the fuck is wrong with me

>>2737221
I thought I was the only one. I for one hate autorun and I NEED to keep shift pressed to run.

I always alternate between walk and run a lot during a playthrough, and letting go of shift sort of "relaxes" me, and thus I can walk more calmly. Even when Speedruning this happen; I feel more relaxed when shift is not pressed so I fuck up more easily.

>>2737202

Am I contractually obligated to pay for your psychological test or it will suffice with this reply?

>>2737236

lol

>>2737221
IME constant autorun is very occasionally counterproductive, there are certain maps which have jumps set up to require a precise "full walking" speed for example. however these are very rare and mostly autorun is absolutely what i want to use. for those times when it is not, most source ports offer the facility for the run key to invert the status of autorun.

Is there any monster mods or mutators you recommend?

>>2737293
personally, no, not interested in that type of thing at all

>>2737293
>mutator
I dislike this term.

>Community Chest exit to secret map
Uh, yeah. Doubt I'd have found that normally.

>>2729513
>Kind of a shame we didn't get more high-profile megawads this year.

I have a feeling next year will be better.

>>2737396
Which secret exit is this?

>>2737564
The one on MAP15, Internal Reaches by Kaiser.

Probably because it's a secret for which you have to find two secrets in a sequence to find.

>>2737148
>>2737128
>>2736869

I will post it here when complete, might be a while. How does a map become demo friendly?

>>2737578
that is quite a large topic, but the short of it is, make sure it runs correctly in chocolate doom, prboom-plus, or one of the other demo-compatible engines.

>no post about Doom 2's birthday

>>2737583
Wasnt it 15 days ago?

>>2736341
did you use the cvars? if not then you need to open up the console with ~ then type "always_pistolstart 1"
then after that rtfm

>>2737583
>>2737708

four days, actually

CLOSED ALPHA IS NOW!!!

IT HAS BEGUN. OUT OF NOWHERE

>>2737807

WAIT, NO

FALSE ALARM, FUCK. nevermind that I suck cocks

>>2737807
>>2737812

I'm willing to think modern id software is spending more time trying to figure out how to encrypt the contents of the pre-alpha more than actually working on the contents of the game itself.

Whatever the case, someone is going to wipe his ass with the NDA and upload the entire closed alpha online.

>>2737708
>>2737805
ye but there was no post about it in this or last thread, at least that I can find
>>2737807
It's just the info, and I think they deleted the post
Also why the hell are they calling it alpha, the game's surely not that unfinished? Maybe they are pulling an UT with the multiplayer portion of the game?

hold on a minute, all of this wasn't part of the site, was it?


Closed Alpha Gameplay Features
One Map: Heatwave

The Alpha will feature 1 multiplayer map: Heatwave. This industrial-themed map will place players in an arena setting featuring plenty of armor, ammo, and health pickups. Narrow corridors, walkways and small chambers all link to a central, open area of the map, providing players with a variety of environments that suit varying playstyles, as well as the focus point for fighting over key power-ups.
One Mode: 6v6 Team Deathmatch

Welcome to the core of DOOM’s arena-style multiplayer combat. In this mode, two teams of 6 players will try to dominate each other by fighting over the Revenant and Gauss Rifle power-ups, which provide devastating firepower that can turn the tide or ensure victory.
One Demon: Revenant

Being the first player to the Demon Rune will transform you into the powerful Revenant. Use your jetpack and dual rocket launchers to hunt down the other team for a limited time to either secure your team’s lead or mount a comeback.
One Power Weapon: Gauss Cannon

Available as a counter to the Revenant, this high-powered weapon destroys opponents in one blast. Use the alternate fire to see your targets through walls, but be warned, there is a limited number of shots, so use it to take down the demon rather than enemy players. Once you’re out of ammo, you have to wait for it to appear on the map again.
6 Weapons, 2 Equipment Items

The Closed Alpha will feature a limited arsenal of weapons and items featured in the complete game. They can be used both in standard and customizable loadouts.
Weapons

Vortex Rifle
Super Shotgun
Repeater
Rocket Launcher
Static Cannon
Plasma Rifle

Equipment Items

Personal Teleporter
Frag Grenade

>>2737826
>Loadout
Wait, like a 2 or 3 weapon limit like in CoD?

Burn this game to the ground

>>2737838
it's probably more about starting weapons, like what they did to quake live and that nobody liked

>>2737826
Link?
>>2737838
2 weapons with customizable altfires + an equipment slot.
>>2737840
It's not like that in the default TDM, you start with those weapons and that's kind of it. The Gauss Rifle is more of a powerup.

Did you guys miss all the post Qcon discussion?

>>2737842

doom.com/alpha I believe

>>2737805
>going by european date.

>>2737843
I wonder what the Vortex Rifle and Repeater are. The static cannon is the movement powered railgun, IIRC.
>>2737840
The problem with what they did to QL is that the game wasn't balanced around it at all. It absolutely destroyed map balance, even after the fix (no starting GL, only one weapon). Weapons also respawn way faster (5 secs compared to 30 secs or more in VQ3) which changed TDM way too much.

>>2737854
>european date

john romero takes it as the official date

Kinda sucks it's Heatwave only, I was hoping to see a new map or two in the alpha. Also holy shit that guy posted about alpha invites being sent out in a few weeks in the last doom thread was right.

Does playing with bots in Quake 3 make you better? And in what ways?

>>2737907

Playing with bots will never, ever make you good in games where man-to-man combat is a vital key in multiplayer modes. Especially in first-person shooter.

You might improve a little, but nothing beats the experience of actually playing against another human being.

>>2737907
>>2737916

I disagree. While it won't prepare you for the randomness of possibilities of a human encounter, playing with bots will make you used to weapon properties (fire rate, reload time, etc), and will train your reflexes, helping you to easily acquire targets.

>>2737927
i don't think you're really disagreeing, since what he said is basically playing against bots will only take you so far

>>2737781
or, you know, just use
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/74385-pistol-start-mod-for-zdoom/
which does everything scroton's does and not have to remember "totally easy guys I swear it's simple" 99999 cvars that you have to type manually in the console

>>2737907
Not by any significant amount, but it helps to get past the initial slump.

If you play with CPMA though, the bots are nuts and will kick your ass.

>>2737858
The Vortex Rifle is basically a more traditional railgun, you have to hold Mouse 1 for it to fire. The most effective loadout is probably the vortex/plasma with person tele as your item. Sorry, but the SSG kind of eats hot shit in TDM, if you're use to playing actual doom 2 dm/duel.

>>2738084
well that really does suck.

so that means no SSG slinging in dm?

I recall Marty saying something along the lines of the team being somewhat unclear on whether should the RL be buffed or not for DM some time ago, though. Should that mean that it's prone to change in the future?

In any case at least it's awesome to see game balance is a factor they're actually taking on instead of just doing for the sake of adding MP into the game with no thought beforehand.

>>2738096
There's a classic DM mode which I'm pretty sure has a buffed SSG, in the 6v6 TDM though the SSG is pretty garbage, I saw no reason to ever use it, Could literally blast someone right in front of you three times and they still be alive. Rockets are good, I think maybe just a little to slow, to little of dmg or bit of both.

Guys, I need help I'm a Doom babby.

I got into the Doom series when I was younger with Doom 64, then I played Doom 2 and didn't like it nearly as much due to the level design even though some people say it's the best in the series. I like several wads for it but not the main vanilla game itself, Doom 1 is also alright and I like Doom 3.

Am I a Doom Babby?

>>2736252
Do you have a link? I've been looking for that forever.

>>2738115
>Doom 2
>best in the series
highly debatable

>le doom babey meme
stop

>>2738115
You're a Doom abortion.

>>2738125

I'm sorry, I see a lot of /vr/ threads where they put it at the top of the game rankings.

>>2738134
doom 2 has most monsters and SSG, thats why most maps are for it.

doom 1 has best maps

doom 64 has best atmosphere

>>2738120
I'll have to ask the person who made the version I basically used to build on it first (since it started as a psx/n64music jukebox and added more ambiant tracks to it.)

>>2738120

The jukebox mod?
http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=demonsteele-nowthatswhaticallmidi-v3.2.pk3

I'd upload my version (not him), but it's full of MP3s and OGGs, with a massive fucking filesize.
Still, it's stupidly easy to modify to make your own version.

1: Swap out the SONGxxx entries with your own music
2: Edit the Language lump so that the maximum number of entries is the same number as your songs (i.e. if you have 64 songs, only have 64 language entries)

It's a great little thing, very simple to plug in, edit, and use.

>>2738115
>Am I a Doom Babby?
literally regular of this general is a doom babby. you're in good hands.

>>2738145
>every regular
goddammit

>>2738136
also best hell.

>>2738145
>>2738146
except me

>>2738115
I'm torn on Doom 2, on one hand I fucking love murdering the shit out of demons with the SSG, but on the other the maps are terrible. Everything post Warehouse always turns into a 10+ minute long keyhunt, it's seriously not fun.

>>2738160
>Warehouse
Factory

Doom2 is an acquired taste
Most people seem unwilling to make the effort

Are people still making maps for that new /vr/ project ?
Also would an exploration GZDOOM map be accepted for it ? Something like a between episodes / intro / outro map, kinda like BTSX does it.

>>2738186
iirc the deadline was given as thanksgiving so you've still got time.

that said i don't know who's admining or compiling it so nothing may ever happen

>>2738136

Doom 1 has better maps than 64? The only bad map from 64 I think was Breakdown, the entire second half of that level is just a maze. Everything else in the game is fine to me though.

I see this projectile sprite used in wads a lot, what's it originally from?

>>2738186
>Are people still making maps for that new /vr/ project ?

I was, but I realized I'm a shitty mapper and started working on something else instead. Pic related.
Since I was the only one regularly posting about it, I think it's safe to say it's Not Happening.

Still, since it got me working on something new, I guess it's a roundabout success?

Still, RIP Crybaby Bridge.

>>2738198

Hexen.

Still playing Community Chest. I really like effects like this.

Likewise. It's cool when Doom's otherwise limited means are used for something like this.

And this is just plain adorable.

>>2738228
is this... art?

>>2738238
Wasn't there some sort of Doom wad that is set in a museum?

>>2738217
>Hexen.
Thanks, I found it.

>>2738241
probably. there's a few things in themes/xxx that are set in art galleries

>>2738164
Played it for years.
First 10 or so maps are really good, but then at Factory the fun comes to a grinding halt, the levels just really aren't as fun by this point.

>>2737221
If you are playing vanilla Doom/Quake then i would recommend binding sprint to rightclick. I don't like autorun enabled either, sometimes I need slower, more precious strafes.

>>2738307
not even the courtyard? i love the courtyard, you let everything out at once and have a giant firefight, it's great fun.

>>2738330
Courtyard is among the better of the late game maps, but really most of them are mediocre at best, while everything up to 10 is great

Anyone have experience running Unreal on an actual Windows 98 computer with (relatively) time-appropriate hardware? I'm trying to play it on a 450mhz Pentium III/Geforce 3 Ti 200 with 384 MB of RAM and it's running like complete shit. Sub-30 FPS in software mode, seconds per frame in DirectX mode. What gives? Looking at the archived version of the official site, I ought to be destroying the requirements.

Posted some Doom screenshots on /p/ and asked them to colour grade them.

Here's the resulting palettes: https://www.sendspace.com/file/igqwz0

Attached is the image I use to help me see what my adjustments will look like in-game. It really should have a screenshot of Zombieman ass since the red there has to stay close in luminosity to the cream pants.

>>2738420
Nice, the guide picture's actually pretty useful in general, added my own contribution to the thread too.

>>2738314
>sprint to rightclick
I might legit need about 2 weeks at least to get a hold of it

I think I might just leave M2 as is, but thanks a lot for the suggestion, anon.

>>2738406
Normal 98 or 98SE?
Because 98SE (or at least some hotfixes released for it shortly after) has more reliable AGP controller support, which I assume your GF3 is.

Also, you might want to try the older NVIDIA Detonator drivers instead of the Forceware one.
Forceware is only necessary if you want to play Direct3D 9 games, which the GF3 hardware doesn't actually support, so those drivers do some compatibility hacks.

Try NVIDIA Detonator 4 43.45 or Detonator FX 45.23.
You can get them here: http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/index.php?catid=24&menustate=14,1

>>2738720
>try to uninstall Forceware driver
>immediately performs illegal operation and doesn't uninstall anything
>try removing the driver via Device Manager
>it just reinstalls upon reboot
I guess it's not called Forceware for nothing, huh? Thanks for the help anyway. I installed DirectX 8 and got much better performance, although it's still running slower than I'd expect from a computer that exceeds the requirements as much as this one does. I get perfectly smooth performance at the same resolution out of this laptop, whose GPU is actually very slightly weaker than the GF3 I'm using. I don't think the game is so CPU-intensive that it would have difficulty maintaining a steady framerate on a CPU that's a generation newer than the one recommended for the game.

How am I suppose to compile gzdoom for linux now that you cannot download FMOD?

>>2738815
openal

>>2738815
Why can't you download FMOD?

>>2738720
>>2738785
Okay, finally got the Forceware shit uninstalled and it's running perfectly smooth now. Thanks a ton.

oh hey.

you watch me kill that eye thingie dintcha?
nice.

well, bro. i'm off to get some sleep.

>>2738843
No problem.
By the way, if you want to learn more about maintaining old DOS/Win9x systems like that for retro gaming purposes, you should hit up the VOGONS forums.

>>2738835
FMOD libraries now require registration for download.
All the more reason it should be abandoned.

>>2738846
also what's up with the hud being all shat up and shit in this version

i fucking hate dooming on higher resolutions

>>2738851
>FMOD libraries now require registration for download.
seriously?? ugh
>All the more reason it should be abandoned.
agreed

this is what doom has done to me.

>>2738869
SHOTGUNS

>>2738869
It looks like "Remington Arms" is stamped on the shotgun below, but Remington hasn't made a side-by-side shotgun since 1900.

What is that?

>>2738108
>>2738096
Yeah one of the devs keeps bugging Marty about buffing damage on a direct hit. It only does 55 at the moment, apparently.

>>2738869
>bottom pic

Now that's a boomstick!

>>2738894
>>2738108
>>2738096
if there is one thing that they should do though, that I think we all can agree on is that they should increase player speed at least by 20%

iirc there was a 4-player dm demo footage shown on the snapmap segment of the E3 demo and it was fast as shit

as to what the literal fuck is keeping them from making the base dm/game as fast as that is really beyond me. The game's speed would change drastically by making the player faster alone with no downsides.

Would anyone be into playing Chocolate Doom deathmatch? Over Doomwire probably.

>>2738879

>>2738886
no idea, sadly

not a /k/ regular tbh, still one sexy ass shotgun

I'm tempted to say the ones above are a mossberg 590 and a remington 800 or something?? i could very well be risking painting myself an idiot right now idk

>>2738869
Are the top ones real?

>>2738965
I think both of the top ones are 870s, just with different finish wood furniture and varying muzzle nuts.

>>2729409
Discuss

>>2739083
I never played any of the turok games.

>>2739083
Are they really doing that to Kaiser? He's the only one I know who has done such a thing with Turok.

>>2739083
Was announced like a month and a half ago. Not much really known for certain yet outside of that they have the source code (which they've sicced Kaiser on) and a few screenshots of the remastered Turok 1.

>>2739083
i remeber Kaiser saying he was working on that
did they take him in or are they just doing another low blow after the powerslave thing?

>>2739096
He works at Night Dive now.

>>2739083

Looking forward to these

found nother one

would somebody tell me what this one is?

>>2737864
Which is odd because it came out at an earlier date in America.

>>2738115
>even though some people say it's the best in the series.

Thats mainly because 95% of mods are designed for Doom 2.

>>2729410
>Quake Live beta almost complete
So I hear that Quake Live will be bringing back gore through a DLC. Will this also mean Cadaver will return?

>>2739105
he works at the place that shut down the powerslave thing?

>>2739214
Probably not.
I could try asking on IRC to be sure, but my guess is no.

>>2739229
They likely shut down Powerslave EX because they don't want an employee infringing on copyright.
Also they own Powerslave, so they could use Powerslave EX for an official port.
This isn't a bad thing. A legal way to obtain the Powerslave data for all of the platforms it's on as well as PC ports for them, and likely a source release of Powerslave EX.
Praise based Kaiser. Kaiser is Love, Kaiser is Life.

>>2739190
Cheapo Baikal (Russian) brand side-by-side shotgun, 12-gauge. They're adequate for casual usage.

Some guy decided to get one just for fun, and decided, it could be a fun project gun, so he filed a tax-stamp for a Short Barreled Shotgun, and then got to work once the ATF got back to him with it (which takes several months typically).

He shortened down the barrel and then the fore-end (to match), as well as hacked off the back of the stock. Also, he refinished the wood and had the steel blued, Baikals don't look quite that nice out of the box.

Actually, now that I think about it, it could have been a Stoeger (American), another cheaper brand.

>>2739083
If it runs well, that is it would work on computers that came out a few years after Turok released, I'll probably play it.

I can't imagine a Turok re-release being a resource hog.

Wait, yes I can.

>>2738420
>Wes Anderson

>>2738420
>Orange and Teal

>>2739263
>Official Powerslave EX

mite b cool

>>2739229
It's what the LinkedIn he links to on his sites says. The blog post on the Powerslave EX site where he explicitly says that Turok EX is "why I’ve been very quiet the past few months" is also a pretty big hint.

>>2739263
>>2739229
so, what should we do if we want the EX games (once they're released)
pirate them and donate to Kaiser?
because let's be honest, without him there'd be no improvement over the original games, and the only thing nightdive does is buy the liscence of abandonwares and sell them

>>2739312
I am in great support of this plan. I don't know how much his employers would like that, though.

>>2739312
all i'm saying is, if somebody sicced the lawyers onto me, i'd think twice before going to work for him.

>>2739315
weren't they the ones who sold their licensed games using [stolen] cracks?
i say fuck 'em

>>2739321
Yeah, but then Kaiser may be out of a job.
Or maybe I'm worrying a bit too much. Eh.

>>2739320
It sounds like there's a little more to this story than what we know, considering that Kaiser said "And before you even ask about that “other game”, just wait a little bit longer.". That doesn't sound like something that's been foxed forever, IMHO.

>>2739321
Google doesn't turn up anything about this for Night Dive. I know Rockstar got caught doing this with Max Payne 2 on Steam at one point, but that's about all I've heard.

>>2739325
maybe they drove a truckful of money up to his house. everyone has their price.

>>2739324
I'm sure plenty of people who aren't in the know will lap it up and Kaiser will keep his job. They bought the fuck out of System Shock Enhanced, and that was just a bunch of community-made mods (all of which were conveniently DCMA'd) bundled together with a pricetag slapped on.

Post your favorite HUD. I need inspiration for my own project.