/vr/ - Retro Games

Waifu2x is the only good one.

>>2729776
That looks fucking terrible. What's with the horizontal lines? Why forgo pixels for ugly colour blobs?

Why is your taste so fucking awful?

To answer your question, a nice NTSC filter is great for older games. Retroarch's handheld shaders are great for gb/gba. Other than that stay away.

Use the catalog

>>2709772

Smoothing causes loss of detail. The only filter you should use is the scanline filter.

>>2729780
Whoa, this is awesome. Thanks anon.

http://waifu2x.udp.jp/

Personally I use 25% scanlines and avoid anything that introduces blurriness, but you should play the game however you like and use what looks cool to you. You're a hobbyist, not an antiquarian. You're under no obligation to preserve these games "as they were originally played" or anything like that.

>>2729776
Bricks are fucked up.

Best way to make coffee.

>>2730146
>sometimes words are used in different contexts while carrying the same basic meaning
Is this your first day speaking English, or something?

>>2729776
Totally unnecessary and only appreciated by hipsters who weren't alive when CRTs were still mainstream. I still have my old tvs to go with my older systems, but if I play a modern port or emulate something, I don't yearn for my games to look like shit in a feeble attempt to make them look more "authentic".

>>2730152
Joke's on you, I was only pretending to be retarded.

>>2730157
It's not about authenticity. The games were designed to look best with particular imperfections like scanlines, and they do. They break up solid blocks of colour which otherwise make the game look like a cheap tacky flash animation.

>>2730152
watch out, inability to identify jokes could be a symptom of autism

>>2730146
That's not a French press.

>>2729776
If you're already emulating then adding filters won't give you an authentic reproduction of playing the original.

It's fine if you want to emulate, I support that. I just don't follow why you would make your games look worse on purpose.

>>2730225
It's his life, he can do whatever he wants as long as it doesn't impair others.
So don't post bloated, overfilttered screenshots on /vr/.

>>2729776
that really looks awful

>>2729776
Filters are alright. Epsxe,and Snes9x have some good ones that try to simulate RGB and CRT. But those blotchy ones like 2xsai, or Super Eagle are absolutely atrocious. "HD" re releases of old games use these and look like dogshit. They were cool 15 years ago but have aged like milk.

>>2730232
Did you mean to reply to someone else?

>>2730343
No. Let him filter in piece.

>>2730360
I did. That's why I'm confused why you're telling me off for something I didn't say or do.

>>2729776
They can be good, but the one you show looks a little heavy.

I've been wanting all day to post that comic with the Russian guy talking his son on a tour of Sonic the Hedgehog and his son asks why everything is all smeared and splotchy and he s says "is as developers intended" but I can't find it anymore.

>>2730329
>aged
Games don't age. Filters don't age. If it appears different to you know, it's because your thoughts on it changed, retard.

>>2730935
dumbfuck
literally everybody knows this
how autistic are you?

The Analog Shader Pack's RGB Shadowmap shader is my personal favorite. It looks a bit too much in screenshots, but in motion it's absolutely stellar. Tricks my eyes into thinking I'm playing on a CRT, and I usually can't stand shaders.

>>2729780
That's not a filter. It's an image upscaler that only works on one frame. It would take an unimaginable amount of power to render each frame of a continuous stream in real time.

>>2732848
well, my laptop has a dual core computational processor

sometimes they're necessary

Tatics Ogre?

I have started playing the fan-translated SNES game. And it's really good!

>>2729780

That is an upscaler that is designed for Anime faces. It only works for those.

>>2732858

Contra Arcade has some weird things going on with its colors. It looks weird and outrageous if you just emulate it. Apparently it looks a lot more natural when actually played on its Arcade screen.

>>2732892

Stop and play PSP port. It revamps and updates everything. It's the definitive version.

>>2732990
Sounds perfect for the type of retro games I like to play.

>>2729776
This is the only filter I need: http://timothylottes.blogspot.de/2015/09/tonemapping-slot-mask-simulation.html

>>2732826
Link that shit babe.

I don't always emulate

but when I do

I like hideous HD smoothing filters

Don't even know why y'all sperg about them, it's like playing your GB games with inverted colors on a GBA or whatever, just a fun way to make your old faves look a little different sometimes

If I were building a MAME cab maybe I'd worry about >muh authenticity

Filters are love, filters are life.

>>2730165

Scanlines and ESPECIALLY the natural blur that CRTs always have.

>>2734003
what is this even trying to accomplish?

>>2729776
It's only good when it's implemented in-game

if you like using filters, then use them
if not, then don't use filters
easy

>>2735489
To look like an old fuzzy TV.

I like my scanlines to not be as assaulting however.

>>2735489
Blurry photograph from an old gaming magazine: the filter - gaiden -

>>2732826
From that screenshot unfortunately there seems to be some really visible moiré

>>2729776
Interpolation + 25% scanlines is the only way for pixel art.

>>2735489
Eye cancer.

>>2734003

TOO FUZZY

>>2735723
You should see it in motion, fam. Ghosting, flicker, awful bleeding bloom, noise. It's so comfy, tbh.

smh

>>2729776
If you are using a filter then you are emulating. We have better displays these days that make the games look nicer. Scan lines? I play without them. Why would I want lines through my picture?

>>2735956
Lines are only visible when you're too close to the TV/monitor, genius. Unless you sit 2ft away from your display, why wouldn't you use CRT shaders.

>>2735971
Why should they be visible at any distance if they don't need to be?

>>2735980
Because there is no better 2D filtering for older games than phosphor blur. Are you literally 12?

Tasteful RGB shit filter coming through.

>>2735981
I own a number of retro consoles. I still own a CRT. Games look better emulated on my LED flatscreen in game mode. They'd likely look better if I plugged my old consoles into a downscaler and played them on my modern flatsceen. I just live in the real world anon. I don't have to move the lights around to avoid screen glare.

>>2735989
I play all my retro games on my 60" 4k LED in my large living room. Which shaders I use are game dependent. I use something like this for the Genesis library, something closer to composite for SNES and so on. >>2735985

Still, unfiltered games look like absolute trash on modern displays. Even if you don't like CRTs or extensive shaders, the stock image is fucking garbage and should at least have some sharp bilinear and color correction.

>>2735995
You're tv is honestly an overpriced low quality piece of shit them. Let me guess... Samsung? You can't trust a tv manufacturers specs. You have to actually see them in person and compare them to others. My 8mp phone camera takes better than this 12mp digital camera I bought years ago. BTW my tv is larger and also 4k since you want to measure cock size. That 4k number is meaningless and honestly more about marketing. At best retro consoles did what 480? I'm sorry you need shaders for a lower quality signal. I simply just adjust the settings on my tv. Looks fantastic. Sounds like you've got a 60" turd in your living room bro.

>>2736002
>Let me guess... Samsung?
>calling the best TV makers in the world low quality

90% of all TVs are using Samsung's excess older-gen stock. You literally cannot buy a more advanced TV than whatever Samsung's current product is.

>>2736002
Wow, what an incredibly dumb statement. You have a very warped perception. Also ironically low standards for settling with stock emulator output and calling it "great."

>>2736005
Well that was just pulled out of your ass. If that was true then why does my vizio from costco look better then every samsung I've seen? You can call it opinion and quote this stat or that. I trust my better than 20/20 vision and know what I'm looking at.
>>2736008
Hurr duh hur... "stock emulator output"... that shit's adjustable cock gobbler. Who said I never changed settings? Only you.

>>2736013
> I simply just adjust the settings on my tv
Nice short term memory there, lad.

>>2736013
>Samsung's business model isn't true because I've seen Samsungs at the Costco!
>Plus I have a brand that uses Samsung parts for comparison!

>>2736014
That's generally enough for a decent picture. When I run into complications I do more. I don't use filters though. They're simply not necessary. I've emulated 40 different systems on my tv with retroarch. They generally look great. When I see the rare oddity I mess with the emulators settings.
>>2736018
Give me a source then blind fag. I trust what I test and know what I see. Seriously link something relevant to your claim. Anything will do.

>>2730165
>>2734038
You must have had a pretty shitty TV growing up.

>>2736018
And the bestbuy, hh greg, and other retailers. I went with the vizio from costco because it looked better. Sorry for shopping around. I guess you didn't.

>>2736002
>low quality piece of shit
>Let me guess... Samsung?
What a shitty troll. At least try.

>>2736020
That's still a shader pass, genius. A shader can be more than phosphor blur and scanlines.

>>2736028
Well, considering the rest of the bullshit he's spouting, you can safely assume that he's just retarded. He will likely play the "lolo i trolle u" card, though.

why do people feel the need to attach an image to ever post they make

>>2736013
>why does my vizio from costco look better then every samsung
LMFAO. Confirmed troll. Samsung pwns Vizio 10 out of 10 times. Its not even close. Not saying Vizio makes bad TVs, but they aren't even in the same league. Vizio's entry level, E-Series, is very good for gaming (low input lag) considering the cost.

Why wouldn't you use shaders?

>>2736031
>Well, considering the rest of the bullshit he's spouting, you can safely assume that he's just retarded. He will likely play the "lolo i trolle u" card, though.
I think he is just poor and is trying to justify his Vizio.

>>2736035
Because it doesn't look good.

>>2736029
Yet I don't need a special filter to do it huh?

Let's recap the conversation so far. I said you own a samsung tv. You proceeded to say 90% of tv's use samsung parts... (I hit the nail on the head). Consider this though: unlike you I actually took my small emulator box to the stores and tested it. I viewed them in with actual 4k resolution as opposed to the 1080p they run on most show models. I made an informed and tested purchasing decision. Some vizio's looked like shit. Some samsung models did better than others. I did my consumer research and bought the best option I could afford. Stay mad b/c my tv is bigger and I don't need a filter for a decent display. I'm still waiting for you to back up your 90% figure...
>>2736034
Stop samefagging. You're embarassing yourself.

>>2736046
>special filter
What the fuck are you even talking about at this point? You're contradicting yourself with every single post you make. Legitimate retardation is starting to look like the cause, so I won't insult you.

You're also mistaking me with 3 other people there, fam.
>>2736029
>>2735995
>>2735981
Are the only posts I've made.

>>2736037
All chinese parts. Some tvs of every model look better than others despite the same specs. My shit looks amazing. Stay mad b/c you read a spec sheet and ordered yours on Amazon. Maybe you didn't. Maybe you just got the best looking one at best buy.

>>2736048
>Because there is no better 2D filtering for older games than phosphor blur. Are you literally 12?


this...

>>2736046
Why are you so angry? I've posted multiple times and am not trying to hide it. You are poor and can't afford a Samsung, so you are trying to justify it on an anon message board. LOL

Link a single source to your 90% claim. You can't because you made that shit up to justify your shitty samsung tv.

>>2736056
Yes... I'm poor I guess. I didn't buy a 60" vizio because the 80" $4,000 dollar vizio was the incorrect choice. I said I bought what I could afford. I got the best tv for my money. Stay mad with your poor consumer choices and lesser budget.

>>2736060
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-usage/video-gaming/best

Samsung scores higher than every Vizio. I'm not hating on Vizio, but its retarded to think their TVs are better than a Samsung.

>>2736053
We were far past that. Why bring it up again? It is still objective truth, and the games of the 80's and 90's were aesthetically designed with CRT phosphor blur in mind.

>>2736065
>I got the best tv for my money.
I agree. As far as value, you can't beat the Vizio E-Series, especially for gaming. Stop raging.

>>2736032
So you can tell they're not from around here.
Maybe it's also a weak form of avatarfagging

>>2736067
>http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-usage/video-gaming/best

your site is rtings... My source is seeing shit live and in person. You read it on the internet. It must be true. Still waiting for the source on that 90% claim...

>At the end of the day you own a 60" 4k samsung... I rock an 80" 4k vizio. I must be the poor fag in this debate. Sorry for going with the tv that looked better... QQ for you.
>>2736069
idk... maybe because you're full of shit and never defended the claim you read on the internet and made in the first place.
>>2736072
Not raging. I'm still the only guy in this discussion that guessed the other anons tv based on its shitty performance.

>>2736069
My sources say otherwise.
In Japan they even had games specifically made with LCD displays in mind.

>>2736075
Or maybe it's a form of continuity so no other faggot tries to claim he's me. Are you seeing the theme. I'm still anon but the same anon.

>>2736080
What do you think avatarfagging is?

>>2736075
whoever/whatever he is he's sure one sad man

>>/vr/?task=search2&search_media_hash=NVeRb8EiNAGzfH8zbGxWIQ%3D%3D

>>2736032
His hilaaaarious reaction images are a form of confirmation bias to convince himself that he's just being snyde, delivering absolute facts - when in reality, he's retarded and spouting bullshit.

>>2736083
Following his trails to another thread implies he uses a Raspberry Pi on his 4K display, which would yield an amazing 15 Hz frame rate.

My biggest gripe with samsung that actually trumps most of these is very simple. I wanted a smart tv. On many of the highend samsung models I had to wait a minute or more before I could access netflix or any other internet tv service after powering on. Keep defending your piece of shit anon. I start my tv and watch internet tv without waiting. The very notion they would make such shitty "high end product" is offensive to me.

>>2736087
On my upstairs tv. Some of us own more than one. I own three. I'm honestly happy I've rustled your jimmies sufficiently that you felt the need to do research. Bravo 1950 anon. Enjoy your one tv. Research this image as well. I use it a lot.

>>2729776
generally don't like them, they make everything look smeared and distorted.

Has nobody yet questioned who thought it was a good idea to put a filter like this on the PSP version? Why would a PSP game need a filter?