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worse sound? the music is way better on hyperstone heist though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_s_wtIGXdU

If you really think that is better than this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYJd6aEkwvg

You are retarded, the SNES version doesn't even have bass guitar you fucking clown.

>>2717475
They replaced the bass with an orchestra of ducks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-WcjYIup8U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO5TaLbxtys

Honestly though, both games are pretty forgettable.

>>2717475

Genesis version is scratchy as fuck you neanderthal.

NOTHING in HSH can touch this track, either:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQHkBC24Ing

The one I played as a kid is better.

the joke is that very few people left in 4chan were even alive when TMNT IV came out

>>2719676
Again, shitty bass compared to HSH:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ77S5h2CPc

Also, only the voices sound scratchy in HSH.
Musicwise:
Arcade > HSH > TMNT4 SNES

SNES Turtles:
-more levels
-more enemy types
-more level variation
-more bosses
-more of everything basically

Genesis Turtles:
-fewer levels but the levels are longer to the point of tediousness
-more animations
-smoother gameplay
-Run button that allows you to do more technical stuff

Both games are unexceptional but the SNES version is better.

>>2719676
how does it sound scratchy in the slightest? Sounds very clear actually no fuzz at all, you're just being a retard.

>>2719703
>>2719720

You guys really need to get your hearing checked, turn the volume up or put on some headphones.

>>2719710
This guy is completely correct and I am a sega kid

>>2719730
I did, SNES sounds like your typical cut muffled samples at 32khz, Genesis is pure FM goodness at 44khz, much better suited for headphones.

>>2719684

I was born the year it came out.

I play the ARC version all the time at ground kontrol tho. You nerds fighting over inferior versions. HSH stands on it's own legs though, SNES is just trying to be the ARC as best as it can. Both just don't really work imo.

>>2719787
>HSH stands on it's own legs though

You must be blind,deaf,stupid or a combination of all 3 if you can't see that HSH is just a watered down port of TiT with worse everything. SNES port is actually better than the Arcade, except for the sprites and no 4 players.

>>2719792
So it isn't better than the arcade?

>>2719787
The arcade has the worst gameplay by far.

Presentation-wise:
Arcade >>>> SNES > Genesis
Gameplay-wise
SNES=Genesis >>> Arcade

Still, all of them are pretty mediocre beat 'em ups.

>SNES port is actually better than the Arcade

>>2719803
arcade is the only version with 4 player support, that's a pretty big game changer

>>2719806

No, not at all fam. I bet you've only read wiki articles on HSH and TiT then played the arcade version and think you're hot shit.

>>2719810
Four players in one game is pretty GOAT tho.

>>2719806
As a party game on MAME, as an actual game to have fun and git good with few credits not for me at least, hate this term but that game is literally a quarter muncher.

>>2719792
>SNES port is actually better than the Arcade
>except for the sprites and no 4 players

Nigga, you just shat on ya'self. Playing the ARC version with 3 buds + beers is ten times better than either of these versions. I know this sounds like some "LOL I HAVE A LIFE" bullshit but beat'em ups bring out the best of the entire medium on a social level.

>>2719815
Exactly, it's the same deal as the Simpsons and X-Men Beat'em ups.

>>2719814
>>2719815
>>2719806

I hope you ain't a samefag because these niggas is right.

4 Player CO-OP trumps the cool nuances found in the ports.

>>2719831
I prefer a decent 2 players games over a broken 4 players game. If i want a good 4 players game i'd just play Ninja Baseball Batman or Captain Commando. TMNT arcade not even once.

>>2719840
Is it bad I think a TMNT for SNES is a pain beat em up that drags? I play it with my friends sometimes, and it's fun and all but gets quite monotonous.

>>2719843
I have the same opinion, however i think the arcade is even worse due to the awful combat mechanics.

>>2719843

It is very boring until you get to the technodrome, then it becomes balls to wall excitement.

>>2719815
>>2719827
>>2719831

simpsons > TMNT

simpsons is god-tier when it comes to 4player beat em ups.

Team moves for every combination of 2 characters.

Has actual enemy hit stun for an early Konami game unlike TMNT 1 & 2 for the arcade, so you it feels like an actual beatemup and not a slapfest like TMNT.

has immense charm and top-notch presentations. Fun and easy to 1cc compared to TMNT arcade which requires a lot of chance due to the game mechanics.

When it comes to 4 player beatemups Simpsons reigns supreme, m8.

>>2719857

I am >>2719831

And I agree. TiT is a good game but it ain't in upper echelon. It's presentation on ARC is probably the best thing about it and if you were really into TMNT it must have felt fucking amazing.

>>2719857
It doesn't compare to more polished games like Ninja Baseball Batman, Golden Axe RoTA or Captain Commando, or even other Konami games like Vendetta and Metamorphic Force.

>>2719874
How are those games more "polished" than The Simpsons?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPTxruFuzL8

I think we can all agree the Genesis having a dedicated run button was a good addition, but the mode 7 stuff in TiT makes it the better game.

>>2719898
>I think we can all agree

Nope, double tap to run is way better. Holding forward to run is shit-tier though and I do prefer the button over it.

>>2719892
To begin with, there is some more depth to then than just do heavy attack and dive jumps all the game to win. Ninja Baseball Batman especially has a lot of depth in the combat, it feels like a TMNT game done right.

>>2719905
>double tap to run is way better

How does it feel to be wrong?

>>2717423

Turtles in Time doesn't have Inside Shredder's Hideout. Hyperstone Heist wins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trdh3_ebvvw

>>2719909
The Simpsons isn't about skill and depth though. It's a button masher, except it's a button masher done right in terms of game mechanics, unlike the TMNT arcade games.

Ninja Baseball Batman has a lot of slowdown in 4 players mode. Also Ninja Baseball Bat Man isn't a deep game.

>Green
Use his jump, up, down, jump attack on every single enemy in the game, followed by the tornado move. You don't need anything else.

>Yellow
jab, jab, jab, command throw on everything.

>Red and Blue
Just use their combos and play it safe.

Now what about the other games you listed? Are they deep?

What I'm saying is, if your definition of "polish" and what makes a good 4 player beat'em up is depth, then perhaps you're looking at it the wrong way.

>>2719910

How does it feel to be shitty at beat 'em ups? You rarely need to run, they reach you fast enough in TiT on hard.

>>2719909
>>2719923
I fucking love Vendetta though. That's one of my favorite beat'em ups.

>>2719921

Genesis doesn't have Neon Night-Riders, you lose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDqxmGPZRTg

>>2719927
>You rarely need to run

Yep, you're a casual. You don't need to run because the game is easy and you can hammer throw everything, but if you want to play with skill and efficiency then moves like the running dash kick are necessary

>>2719932
>you don't need to run because the game is easy

So because you can't get away with running away like a spaz all the time, the game is "easy"? Nice logic.

>>2719923
It's mainly the controls, i just don't like Konami's no-combo and no-throw no-multiplehit combat style, i find it overly simplistc. I much prefer Final Fight style combats/controls which feel more solid for me. But yeah i get your point, Simpsons is better than TMNT arcade and it works right at what it does.

Anyway, i prefer 2-3 players beat 'em ups over 4pl. Warriors of Fate, Final Fight, Cadillacs, thos are my stuff.

>>2719945
Oh okay, I see what you mean. Honestly, what I meant by "4 player beat'em ups" was Konami party-game-style beat'em ups that are known button mashers like TMNT, Simpsons, X-Men, etc. I wasn't even considering games like Ninja Baseball Batman or 4 player Capcom games because they didn't even occur to me at the time. I've been playing my Capcom games using the 2 player mode for so long that I even forgot that some of them are 4 player games - the same goes for Crime Fighters 2 which is a top-fucking-tier game. So I have to take back what I said originally about The Simpsons being god-tier, there are tons of better 4-player beat'em ups out there.

But in terms of casual party-game-style 4 player beat'em ups The Simpsons is just really well-made, and much more playable than TMNT.

>>2717475
Holy shit the HH version sounds like ass, how could you defend that unironically.

>>2719703
Tbh fam HSH music sucks pretty bad conpared to the TIT you need to clean your ears more than once a year.

>>2721495
i don't care about your shit tastes tbh fam

Objectively best version of the music was the arcade version.

Dat YM2151 with Konami's special sample chip.

Shame it lacks the Technodrome/Gauntlet track.

>>2721507
Pretty much this. Second best is Genesis version because it sounds closer to the arcade, especially the FM lead.

>>2721509
Yeah, 2nd favorite version is also Genesis for me.

Fuck the SNES and its muffled samples. Yes, I like scratchy samples.

>>2721505
Tbh fam, no one probably could stand listening to that link for more than 10 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHGip5BoGE4 hnng

Arcade version still sounds the best tho

>>2721519
shit taste tbh, what do you have against bass guitar fam? I though you niggas loved that shit fam

>>2721558

What do you mean by "you niggas", bruh?

If we're gonna talk music, the arcade version was the best in that department.

>>2717482
>They replaced the bass with an orchestra of ducks.

FUCK YOU I CAN'T UNHEAR IT NOW

>>2721628
i mean you simians with inferior intellect

>>2721713

Is it your first time cracking open a thesaurus?

>>2721745
so you acknowledge simian as a synonym for nigger? Cool

>>2717423
I seriously doubt many people will genuinely point out at the Genesis game and say, "it's the best version!"

Also what's the point of this thread? Someone disagreed with you and you shat your cereals so hard you had to come to /vr/ to vent?

>>2721748
kek

>>2721558
Just what I said, you honkeys wouldn't know good music unless a black man told you it was good.

>>2717423
the sound is good and you'll notice there are a few more frames in the attack animations but yeah the game is inferior

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